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Gotta love how they only considered that bioweapons don't really care about borders and could easily hit them as well when the project was already quite far along.
Even Hitler didn't want to use bioweapons in battle because he knew they were just as dangerous to his side as they were the enemy, and all it took was a change in the direction of the wind.
A little interesting fact: after cleaning up the island, the government sold it back to the original owners for the price it was initially purchased for - £500 - as per the agreement. Newspaper reports made it sound like the island was being sold for £500 to anyone who would buy. The government was inundated by people offering to buy it off them. I only know this because the algorithm pushed this video at the same time as it pushed an older one from Tom Scott.
Simon, huge fan of your channels. In particular your "graphics" channels because the length is perfect for my daily commute. It's awesome learning new things everyday with you. I have a recommendation for a Geographics video topic. I'm from the United States Great Lakes region and in 1996 we had a tropical storm develop totally over Lake Huron. You can call the episode, "Huroncane." Or don't. Either way consider the topic because it was a super rare weather event that most people likely have never heard of!
Çatalhöyük would be an interesting place to cover. Ancient ruins, mushroom cults, and curious ideas as to how these ruins and their associated worshippers impacted and were impacted by the rest of humanity. Terence McKenna had a wonderful entry about Çatalhöyük in his work, “Food of the Gods”.
@@VeraBean it’s an interesting collection of ruins in what is today Turkey if I’m not mistaken. In “Food of the Gods” (fantastic book by the way), Çatalhöyük is described as a place where cattle and mushroom worship converged (rough summary of a section I haven’t read in a while.); with mushrooms being consumed as a way to connect with a since forgotten nameless Goddess.
The line about a person having "an outbreak of puppies" made me imagine an AOT and FMA-like outgrowth of fleshy puppies budding, growing, and falling off of a person's body like spore pods.
As a Scottish highlander that's driven past gruinard island hundreds of times, I have to disagree with you it is worth a second glance 🤣 Views are incredible around that area! Nearby gruinard island there is a small village called Aultbea where the Artic convoy's in WW2 would meet up before their voyage, lots of history around Loch Ewe where Aultbea is located, for example HMS Nelson struck a mine laid by a German U-boat in 1939 which blew a 10 by 6 foot hole in her hull, no sailors were killed thankfully. Would be worth doing a video on loch Ewe and Aultbea 😁
Remote is such a loaded term. Remote? From where? London's remote as far as I'm concerned. Used to take people past Gruinard regularly as a wildlife guide (white-tailed eagles have been on there for years and the waters are good for seabirds and mammals). Islands like that were often used as summer grazing for local farmers. Also, like Dounreay (the UKs first nuclear power plant) the placement there was due to it being as far from London as you could get. No wonder Dark Harvest Commando were so pissed off.
We don't want American government organisations getting involved here in Scotland thanks. Especially when it is an organisation that just tries as hard as possible to get as much money as possible for "research".
I’m not sure why several posts here seem to think there’s something strange about needing money for research. 🤨 Believe it or not you can’t do it on thoughts and prayers.
@@Iskelderon you're probably right, you could also probably remove the word British and it would be just as correct. Maybe that's what politicians are for, to make incompetent cops look good in comparison.
Honestly war used to be much more brutal. It used to be you won by killing more of your enemy then they could faster. Civilian casualties used to be just part of war. Kill enough maybe they will overthrow the enemies leadership. Also if you kill them then they can't build the weapons. Once weapons were more precise on the target they learned they didn't have to mass kill civilians
It's logical insanity. You've already decided to kill civilians by dropping bombs on them... It's not that bit of a bigger leap and a very similar leap to Nuking Japan. Dan Carin did a good podcast on it.
The history of biological and chemical weapons should be enough to convince humanity as a whole to never, ever research them again. Any person, state, or organisation that does should be pursued with unparalleled violence of action. Bio-weapons in particular represent a potential existential threat that even nuclear weapons can’t quite match.
To think, that if these anthrax bombs had been used in WWII, there would still today be lethally contaminated areas across Europe and Asia is terrifying.
This is all I was thinking too. Some comments are saying how that would have been cruel to the civilians in enemy countries, but I’m here thinking “it’s not as if the spores would reach the borders and suddenly stop.” They couldn’t even keep it contained at their test site, let alone as a bomb infecting entire cities.
When it takes threatening the government to clean up their mess WITH their own mess, it's saying something, if only people would send some sewage to the tories today given they've allowed the dumping of it into rivers and coastlines...
Living in the north east England for for my current 31years and i never knew anything like this was just a few hours drive away from me. Love these videos keep up the amazing work.
@@brian8861 not quite but still thats not that far to be fair, unless your wanting to walk from there then it would seem far but cmon ur just being a bit sad for no reason ey.
@@gavincrane6054 not really im literally laying out the facts to you, you said you live northeast of England which is the Newcastle area, I live in Edinburgh which is closer to anthrax Island and it takes me more than a few hours to get there, stop being so sensitive.
Yeah, i noticed it with other topics as well, most notably for me was the F-4 Phantom video as it is my favorite plane, and i thought he and his channels now had 2 videos on it, but apparently they removed the older one. So i guess they're "rebooting" some topics onto more suitably named channels. EDIT: Although i don't actually know if they had done this one before already.
He did a specific video on Porton Down on this channel and Gruinard has been mentioned when he's talked about some of the Soviet experiments like Aralsk-7 and such. This is the first vid specifically on Gruinard itself though.
Wait, is this the same island that Simon released a few videos on a month or so ago? Just how many of these islands does the UK *have?* I thought the Brits had a little bit more sense than us Americans.
He covered this on his shadows channel, this is pretty lazy imo. There’s been about 2-5 other videos that have been changed up a bit and rereleased on one of the other channels.
@@AndrewSmith-gn1nq You’re free to unsubscribe to some or all of his channels. Or you can just not watch stuff you think you’ve seen before. The writers don’t necessarily communicate, they cover topics from different angles and in different styles, and not all people are subscribed to all Simon’s channels. I genuinely don’t understand people who complain about videos on similar topics on the different channels.
Maybe the space powerstations can fire radiation on the island to kill the anthrax. Space powerstations already send energy back via microwaves to earth, apparently...right when there was a heatwave...hmmmm
That shouldn't be at all surprising, Churchill had done and said a lot of fucked up shit. The UK and US also both have a long history of doing fucked up shit including war crimes
Yep. By standard of the time the Allies committed numerous war crimes. The US did the nuking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the firebombing of Tokyo as well as unrestricted submarine warfare in the Pacific. The British did the firebombing of Dresden, Lubeck and Rostock as well as destroying numerous dams in Germany. It's just they won so no trials for them.
It makes you wonder how we would look on the allies if we dropped these weapons on Germany. Would we look at it as a necessity like the atomic bombs? Or would we look at it as a tragedy?
Everytime I listen to something sinister the US did or something ridiculously absurd the Soviet trash did...Simon: "hold me pint mate! So, the Brits ..."
@@Games_and_Music You mean a series where we cover anthrax island several times? I love Simon but this is not the first or second video on this exact topic lol I get it's not the same info in each one but yeah, feels like I am on a loop
haha it's already on into the shadows (3 weeks ago). the doubling up on videos on his different channels feels lazy. I feel like if two writers produce scripts on the same topic but destined for different channels then a decision needs to be made about which script is going to be used and which channel the topic is most suited for, rather than releasing both. OR one is put on the backburner and is released in a year's time.
The government NEEDS to keep secrets! They HAVE to due to enumerable reasons. Foreign Policy alone should be enough of a reason! Do we want Russia to find out our secrets how about China, ISIS, Iran! I sure as hell don't. There's a time and place for everything!
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Gotta love how they only considered that bioweapons don't really care about borders and could easily hit them as well when the project was already quite far along.
It did hit them without hitting the enemy.
"Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should." - Dr. Ian Malcolm
Even Hitler didn't want to use bioweapons in battle because he knew they were just as dangerous to his side as they were the enemy, and all it took was a change in the direction of the wind.
Keeping in mind that it's humans who think this is a good idea.
A little interesting fact: after cleaning up the island, the government sold it back to the original owners for the price it was initially purchased for - £500 - as per the agreement.
Newspaper reports made it sound like the island was being sold for £500 to anyone who would buy.
The government was inundated by people offering to buy it off them.
I only know this because the algorithm pushed this video at the same time as it pushed an older one from Tom Scott.
our very own blaze boi has covered this one on into the shadows only a few weeks ago, he probably recorded them at the same time 🤣🤣
@@bjarulez He’s actually recycling content between channels pretty often. Meh. At least he freely admits to being “creatively bankrupt.”
2:35 - Chapter 1 - Dark past
6:55 - Chapter 2 - Poison island
10:30 - Chapter 3 - Coverup
13:35 - Chapter 4 - The dark harvest
17:30 - Chapter 5 - Cleaning up
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Simon, huge fan of your channels. In particular your "graphics" channels because the length is perfect for my daily commute. It's awesome learning new things everyday with you.
I have a recommendation for a Geographics video topic. I'm from the United States Great Lakes region and in 1996 we had a tropical storm develop totally over Lake Huron. You can call the episode, "Huroncane." Or don't. Either way consider the topic because it was a super rare weather event that most people likely have never heard of!
Çatalhöyük would be an interesting place to cover. Ancient ruins, mushroom cults, and curious ideas as to how these ruins and their associated worshippers impacted and were impacted by the rest of humanity. Terence McKenna had a wonderful entry about Çatalhöyük in his work, “Food of the Gods”.
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Never even heard of this. Sounds fascinating!
@@DerptyDerptyDUM indeed 🍄
@@VeraBean it’s an interesting collection of ruins in what is today Turkey if I’m not mistaken. In “Food of the Gods” (fantastic book by the way), Çatalhöyük is described as a place where cattle and mushroom worship converged (rough summary of a section I haven’t read in a while.); with mushrooms being consumed as a way to connect with a since forgotten nameless Goddess.
As soon as you said some of the bodies were burned, and some were buried, I knew it wasn't going to end well.
The line about a person having "an outbreak of puppies" made me imagine an AOT and FMA-like outgrowth of fleshy puppies budding, growing, and falling off of a person's body like spore pods.
As a Scottish highlander that's driven past gruinard island hundreds of times, I have to disagree with you it is worth a second glance 🤣 Views are incredible around that area!
Nearby gruinard island there is a small village called Aultbea where the Artic convoy's in WW2 would meet up before their voyage, lots of history around Loch Ewe where Aultbea is located, for example HMS Nelson struck a mine laid by a German U-boat in 1939 which blew a 10 by 6 foot hole in her hull, no sailors were killed thankfully. Would be worth doing a video on loch Ewe and Aultbea 😁
Remote is such a loaded term. Remote? From where? London's remote as far as I'm concerned. Used to take people past Gruinard regularly as a wildlife guide (white-tailed eagles have been on there for years and the waters are good for seabirds and mammals). Islands like that were often used as summer grazing for local farmers. Also, like Dounreay (the UKs first nuclear power plant) the placement there was due to it being as far from London as you could get. No wonder Dark Harvest Commando were so pissed off.
Tha Gàidhlig agad?
How does a WIND-SWEPT island get selected for anthrax testing? Of COURSE those spores are going to blow all over.
Playing with deadly pathogens is dangerous and can easily go out of control. I wish Eco Health Alliance would pay attention to this history.
They'll pay attention just as soon as their new grant checks are cashed, they promise.
@@jasonwomack4064 Don't you mean they will pay close attention that the new grant check can be cashed?😅
@@Iris_and_or_George Goed Pun-t :P
We don't want American government organisations getting involved here in Scotland thanks. Especially when it is an organisation that just tries as hard as possible to get as much money as possible for "research".
I’m not sure why several posts here seem to think there’s something strange about needing money for research. 🤨 Believe it or not you can’t do it on thoughts and prayers.
1 million anthrax bombs? wow
thats a force to be reckoned with
16:34 "the investigation was sprawling, politically charged, and utterly ineffectual" sounds like a Casual Criminalist passage.
More like a typical day in British politics.
@@Iskelderon you're probably right, you could also probably remove the word British and it would be just as correct. Maybe that's what politicians are for, to make incompetent cops look good in comparison.
English politics, full of pearl clutching and self engineered tragedies.
All those poor animals, suffering from what they didn't understand.
How many damn anthrax islands are there?!?!?!
There are some things man was never meant to tamper with.
I never understood how they thought dropping anthrax bombs was morally okay as for sure many innocent civilians would be affected.
Honestly war used to be much more brutal. It used to be you won by killing more of your enemy then they could faster.
Civilian casualties used to be just part of war. Kill enough maybe they will overthrow the enemies leadership. Also if you kill them then they can't build the weapons.
Once weapons were more precise on the target they learned they didn't have to mass kill civilians
They didn't. They just didn't care.
well, desperate times. they'd have assumed most citizens were Nazis anyway. pretty similar to the Americans dropping nukes on the Japanese.
Do you think the war pigs are trying to conduct war ethically? Lmao
It's logical insanity. You've already decided to kill civilians by dropping bombs on them... It's not that bit of a bigger leap and a very similar leap to Nuking Japan. Dan Carin did a good podcast on it.
It's a shame about those crows flying into their stalls & expiring in agony. Little birdy talons up in the air.
....wait
If I ever get my own island I'm going to name it Deadly Anthrax Island
😎Well it would maybe keep people off your island… might be a tough sell if you ever invite guests though…
Haha, that's a pretty good idea
Am I the only one who got a "visit Ireland " ad during this video..??😊
The history of biological and chemical weapons should be enough to convince humanity as a whole to never, ever research them again.
Any person, state, or organisation that does should be pursued with unparalleled violence of action.
Bio-weapons in particular represent a potential existential threat that even nuclear weapons can’t quite match.
2020 would like a word.
@@kenosabi Don’t see how 2020 or any of its sequels have changed that equation.
Rest In Peace to those that passed away.
Anthrax was also tested in South Wales during WWII.
Bollocks really isn't it? Test bombs on Scotland and Wales? Where's the testing on England then? These people.......
13:58, I wonder if we'll ever be able get an episode on this group from your goodselves.
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I love the video btw good education
My family comes from little grinnard , i just came back from visting there , a beautiful part of scotland
To think, that if these anthrax bombs had been used in WWII, there would still today be lethally contaminated areas across Europe and Asia is terrifying.
Yup.
In a way, they'd would have been worse than nukes.
This is all I was thinking too. Some comments are saying how that would have been cruel to the civilians in enemy countries, but I’m here thinking “it’s not as if the spores would reach the borders and suddenly stop.” They couldn’t even keep it contained at their test site, let alone as a bomb infecting entire cities.
Good morning Simon 😄
11:00 those are some massive f'ing crows lol 😂 just messing with ya fact boi!🍻💯
"And a terminal case of, well, death."
OMG! Is there a cure?
""Sure. Don't die."
There are no ends that could ever justify such means.
I swear he has done like 2 videos on this already
Im pretty sure he just did this for into the shadows like 2 weeks ago
Yeah, I watched that video only yesterday.. Bit of duplication going on it seems :/
Romania's toxic industrial waste sunken village: "Finally a worthy opponent! Our battle will be legendary!"
When it takes threatening the government to clean up their mess WITH their own mess, it's saying something, if only people would send some sewage to the tories today given they've allowed the dumping of it into rivers and coastlines...
Another interesting video. Thanks.
Living in the north east England for for my current 31years and i never knew anything like this was just a few hours drive away from me. Love these videos keep up the amazing work.
and by a few you mean about 7
@@brian8861 u know where i live exactly??
@@gavincrane6054 im guessing around the Newcastle area, I'm from Edinburgh and it takes me more than a few hours
@@brian8861 not quite but still thats not that far to be fair, unless your wanting to walk from there then it would seem far but cmon ur just being a bit sad for no reason ey.
@@gavincrane6054 not really im literally laying out the facts to you, you said you live northeast of England which is the Newcastle area, I live in Edinburgh which is closer to anthrax Island and it takes me more than a few hours to get there, stop being so sensitive.
Skip to 1:31 and thumbs up
Wasn't this on Decoding the Unknown a couple weeks ago?
Was this covered in another Simon channel or am I going crazy? They're all starting to blur together 😂
Yeah, i noticed it with other topics as well, most notably for me was the F-4 Phantom video as it is my favorite plane, and i thought he and his channels now had 2 videos on it, but apparently they removed the older one.
So i guess they're "rebooting" some topics onto more suitably named channels.
EDIT: Although i don't actually know if they had done this one before already.
He did a specific video on Porton Down on this channel and Gruinard has been mentioned when he's talked about some of the Soviet experiments like Aralsk-7 and such. This is the first vid specifically on Gruinard itself though.
yep, it was on into the shadows about a month ago
@@bjarulez I just went and looked it up, how could I forget the video that was accidentally put up unedited? 🤣
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Hello Simon
It always amuses me that people keep thinking that their government actually gives even a solitary damn about the well being of the population.
Nothing is more terrifying then the phrase "were from the government and were here to help".
Back in the early 80s thisd be a story straight out of Eagle with Doomlord carrying out the mission to scare mankind.
Geographics can you please do a video on the Siberian traps and the great dying? Also can you do a video on the SCP Foundation?
WhoaHo! Am I early or what? Done smashed the like button before viewing again. Simon is the best on RUclips. Allegedly. LoL. Cheers.
Distilled Death...... Very metal
Can u do a video on Toronto 1 day?
So i love geographics videos but didn't simon already do this topic before?
I thought the same thing, is this a re upload?
He's run out of history
There's no free lunch
and no free games, Simon
Good video 👍
Oh yeah
Too many damn anthrax islands.
Wasn’t this covered already ? I swear I saw it being covered already
I think it was covered on Into the Shadows? I watch so many of Simon's videos, I'm losing track
I swear there are at least 2 other versions of this topic...
Was thinking the same and it was originally released unedited. Which like someone else mentioned might have been a different channel.
There was a similar video on Porton Down I think maybe you’re thinking of that?
@11:00 @geographics, for the Scotts among us, could Simon confirm the name of the village or did he have some form of seizure? :)
Scots?
@@Adiscretefirm attack of the auto correct
I think he was trying to say meallan ùdraigil, or mellon udrigle in english, it was weird af in both languages...🤣 so let's go with seizure.... 😂
I hate it when you want to watch a documentary and instead get a story with pictures.
Strives for historical accuracy: shows an M1D storming Normandy…
a 'Whistle-Out' to Whistler~
Easily seen of you do the NC500 on the A832
I wanna be diagnosed with too many puppies ☹️
Didn't you just Do a video on this over on the into the shadows channel 🤔????
Would you do a Geographics on Times Beach in Missouri?
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Wait, is this the same island that Simon released a few videos on a month or so ago? Just how many of these islands does the UK *have?* I thought the Brits had a little bit more sense than us Americans.
Okay, good news, the Into the Shadows video I was thinking about is *also* about the experiments on Gruinard.
Exactly what I immediately thought.
He covered this on his shadows channel, this is pretty lazy imo. There’s been about 2-5 other videos that have been changed up a bit and rereleased on one of the other channels.
@@AndrewSmith-gn1nq You’re free to unsubscribe to some or all of his channels. Or you can just not watch stuff you think you’ve seen before. The writers don’t necessarily communicate, they cover topics from different angles and in different styles, and not all people are subscribed to all Simon’s channels. I genuinely don’t understand people who complain about videos on similar topics on the different channels.
😎Yeah, what she said!
Humans can be pitiful. We need to evolve in to better beings.
1:30 to get to the story.
Didn’t we just have this one? Or is a re-upload?
Maybe the space powerstations can fire radiation on the island to kill the anthrax. Space powerstations already send energy back via microwaves to earth, apparently...right when there was a heatwave...hmmmm
And people wonder why Westminster won't allow Scotish independence, they'd loose the MODs best playground
Umm... no disrespect, but doesn't this make Churchill a bit of a war criminal? With the help of the US, of course.
That shouldn't be at all surprising, Churchill had done and said a lot of fucked up shit. The UK and US also both have a long history of doing fucked up shit including war crimes
Yep. By standard of the time the Allies committed numerous war crimes. The US did the nuking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the firebombing of Tokyo as well as unrestricted submarine warfare in the Pacific. The British did the firebombing of Dresden, Lubeck and Rostock as well as destroying numerous dams in Germany. It's just they won so no trials for them.
@@Ashannon888 exactly, you only get called a war criminal if you lost
Absolutely. Not to mention Churchill's anthrax plans seem incredibly evil even by Nazi standards.
He is already accused of genocide by the Indians for the famine in 1942-43.
Didn't you guys just do a video on this topic like, last week, on one of your other channels? Im pretty sure you did...
Just checked, it was on Into the Shadows three weeks ago.
@@resileaf9501 THANK YOU!! I searched but I guess I didn't search right. Lol. I knew I wasn't crazy
@@resileaf9501 those that know, know it was a week before unedited lol
Why do I feel like you did this video already
How many stories like this do we need until we stop believing government cover stories?
Is there by chance a Castle Anthrax?
It makes you wonder how we would look on the allies if we dropped these weapons on Germany. Would we look at it as a necessity like the atomic bombs? Or would we look at it as a tragedy?
The basic element in the universe is not hydrogen. It's stupid. The Universe is founded on it. Frank Zappa.
Re-upload?
The government sounds like more of the terrorist than the ones you defined as terrorist in this story imo.
I for some reason wish it still had anthrax I dont konw why
only in the uk would a very dangerous weapon be tested on sheep
HOW MANT ANTHRAX ISLANDS ARE THERE!?! You’ve covered, what, four now? Or are we just one repeat? 🤔
crows would lie down?
"Strong Focus on Historical Inaccuracy"
Everytime I listen to something sinister the US did or something ridiculously absurd the Soviet trash did...Simon: "hold me pint mate! So, the Brits ..."
how many episodes do we have on this? 5?
He's doing an anthraxology series.
@@Games_and_Music You mean a series where we cover anthrax island several times? I love Simon but this is not the first or second video on this exact topic lol
I get it's not the same info in each one but yeah, feels like I am on a loop
@@bigdog517 Ah yeah, i was just making a lame joke :P
What happened to the rest of the soil that the terrorists group took?
Lol @ gamers. What a life
Jesus...
Alba Gu Brath
>illegal invasion
Now you can put this on side projects, into the shadows, Today I found out and highlight history to milk this subject
haha it's already on into the shadows (3 weeks ago). the doubling up on videos on his different channels feels lazy. I feel like if two writers produce scripts on the same topic but destined for different channels then a decision needs to be made about which script is going to be used and which channel the topic is most suited for, rather than releasing both. OR one is put on the backburner and is released in a year's time.
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The government NEEDS to keep secrets! They HAVE to due to enumerable reasons. Foreign Policy alone should be enough of a reason! Do we want Russia to find out our secrets how about China, ISIS, Iran! I sure as hell don't. There's a time and place for everything!
Cross platform lol
Thank you.
Simon reads Wikipedia
VisualPolitik EN has done at least 30 videos on the proxy war in Ukraine within the last eight months (since February 2022). Reminds me of when they did 30+ videos on China last year.
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And your point is what?