Atlantis of the Sands: The Search for the Lost City of Iram
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Source/Further reading:
The Call of Cthulhu: www.scribd.com/book/262694583
The Rub al-Khali:
www.britannica.com/place/Rub-...
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books.google.co.uk/books?id=z...
Bibliography on Iram/Ubar on Scribd.com:
www.scribd.com/audiobook/4246...
www.scribd.com/book/165237893
www.scribd.com/book/87000691
www.scribd.com/book/220492077
Herodotus and Strabo: sourcebooks.fordham.edu/ancie...
Biblical mentions:
www.biblicalarchaeology.org/d...
www.christadelphianbooks.org/a...
www.biblestudytools.com/encyc...
Iram of the Pillars in the Quran and the Hadith:
corpus.quran.com/translation.j...
tvkmuslims.blogspot.com/2016/0...
www.al-islam.org/kamaaluddin-...
ahadith.co.uk/whatishadith.php
Iram in Arabic poetry and the Arabian Nights:
www.academia.edu/38695425/A_P...
www.scribd.com/document/87000...
Ibn Battuta:
tvkmuslims.blogspot.com/2016/0...
issuu.com/journalismstudiessq...
Philby and Thomas:
www.scribd.com/document/87000...
www.britannica.com/biography/...
www.ames.cam.ac.uk/faculty-li...
The expeditions of Clapp, Zarins and Fiennes:
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...
www2.ups.edu/faculty/velez/FL3...
www.sidetracked.com/sir-ranul...
archive.nytimes.com/www.nytim...
www.nytimes.com/1992/04/21/sc...
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Calm down, timetraveller.
@Geographics
I'm convinced that there's more than one _Simon Whistler_
How else can he produce so much quality content and still look so relaxed...?
😎👍🏼
you forgot to mention how it includes nebula for free
im sorry we went back in time and looted it , i need soem gems for my video game
Simon, could we get a Geographics on Western Sahara. thank you.
Looks like Simon has discovered the Uncharted series
Or read the Necronomicon
@@johndillermand4053 Written by the Mad Arab, Abdul Alhazred...
Yes
@@johndillermand4053 also yes
iram was actually mentioned in the quran, some people say it's a city and others say it's a tribe
"The Atlantis may have succumbed to the sands of the desert, but it sailed unscathed through the sands of time"
Absoluetly gorgeous line. I adore it.
look at the eye of the sahara aka recot structure
@hinden A family member of his, Solon was exiled from Greece, traveled to Egypt and heard the story from Egyptian priests.
The Ricat Structure isn't Atlantis though, it's my understanding that the Azores Plateau is *exactly* where Plato describes Atlantis, several days due West of the Pillars of Hercules (strait of Gibraltar)
The isostatic pressure of the Laurentide and Cordilleran ice sheets 11,000 years ago pushed the crusts of North America almost a mile into the mantle, this would displace areas on the edge of their respective continental plates upwards. The Azores could very easily been one *massive* island, a perfectly situated paradise as Plato laid out.
That's about as far as I'm willing to accept the existence of Atlantis however.
It's worth noting, Solon was even told by the same priests about a hidden tomb submerged under water just outside the great pyramids, and wrote about it. This tomb was considered fantasy as well until it was found recently.
@@lospolloshermandez4299 is right - close to the Atlas Mountains... hmm, wonder if that name meant something. :P
Eye of Sahara = Atlantis
Y’all lying to yourself
I remember it from uncharted 3
Iram was great until Nathan and Sully destroyed it, just like all of those other ancient hidden cities.
How was Nate to know that destroying the crane and dropping the Urn back into the lake would cause the entire city to collapse into a sinkhole?
@@williamcrisp6032 I'm replaying that one right now! awesome games. classics even.
Uncharted 3 is underrated.
They were just following Indiana Jones' lead of destroying priceless archeological sites.
@@squamish4244 There isn't an Indiana Jones video game though.. is there. Uncharted for the W.
As a Muslim I have been wondering about the story of Iram of the Pillars since I was a child. When the internet first came I did a lot of research and found nothing but now your video gave me a sense of closure that I have been seeking for years.
Thank you.
# me too 😂
The creator is a formless and infinite mass of energy and consciousness.. that the only name I can use is "The Great Spirit And Will" It will only take form as a way to communicate with people so their lesser minds can understand. It gives punishment equal to the evil committed in life there is no eternal suffering. It accepts all straight, homosexual, transgender, male and female all equally. Reincarnation is forced for those that were evil but only after they suffered in the afterlife realm for their crimes. those that were mostly good on the scale of justice will have the option to remain in the paradise realm or reincarnate. Even celestial bodies have spiritual energy bestowed by the divine Great Spirit And Will.
You live close to "iram"
Didn't Mohammad
mention a city ruined
by some sort of
phenomenon
(metorite shower?)
that "glassed" the
site (city?) ?
I assume that traders
sitting around a
campfire might have
told others what they
observed or something
that their ancestors
had witnessed.
This was not Sodom
and Gomorrah -- It was
someplace in the Arabian
peninsula.
Geologists found nodules[1]
of glass srewn about--
Meteorite/astroid strike.
This location was much
older than Iram. I don't
think that there were
even recognizable
buildings
I don't think it was Iram
of the Pillars (aka: "Ubar"
as well as other names)
Ubar was destroyed by the
collapse of an underground
limestone cavern (a HUGE
sink-hole!)
Was thid collapse caused by a
lowered aquifer (i.e. water-table)
level due to climate change?
__________________________
(1) Nodule (geology), a small
rock or mineral cluster
@@reinatycoon3644 kinda of
The discovery of Ubar has a rather interesting backstory that I learned about through several of the study participants. In 1988, I began using a software program suite that had yet to gain widespread use in archaeology. In fact, by 1990, there weren't many universities using it for archaeology and only 3 private sector consulting groups worldwide had adopted it; my company, one based in Albuquerque, and a third in Bentonville, Arkansas (it was a small world). This commercial software, known then as Arc/INFO, permitted seemless intergration of digital vector and raster mapping, image processing and analyses, and relational databases. It was this software that aided the Bentonville company's analyses of NASA satellite images taken with SAR cameras and the subsequent identification of linear features as probably caravan routes not visible on contemporary aerial images; features that converged on a single location in the Empty Quarter. The Bentonville team had been contacted by the British who had been studying historical sources, and who had become convinced that the Ubar legend was real and of its location in the Omani interior. Arabian Peninsula archaeologist Dr. Zarins knew the Bentonville archaeologists, and together with the British and Omanis formed a consortium of specialists under the auspices of Omani Ministry of Culture, which also provided funding. One can not overstate the importance of the integration of said linear features with contemporary images and maps with a high degree of precision, without which finding the buried ruins in a sea of sand might have never occurred. I knew the Bentonville group and it was through them that I met Dr. Zarins and obtained a first-hand look at this fascinating project. At the time, I had been working on mapping projects in Israel and it was through that work that I came to know my Bentonville colleagues. Without accurate satellite-based radar imagery, powerful software technology and portable computers, painstaking historical search and faith that these sources weren't simply describing legends, hard field work by many people in difficult conditions, and substantial Omani funding and logistical support the archaeology of the Empty Quarter would still be largely unknown. Thank you to Simon and the folks at Geographics for bringing this little known to a wider audience!
thank you for sharing this!
Nice
That's some wild stuff, man. Sounds like you've had an interesting career.
One of the most interesting and informative comments I've ever read on this site or many others. Thanks for sharing all that. I had been aware of the use of new imagery tools and satellite photography in this discovery in a very general sense, you've added a lot. An amazing combination of old and new skills, of hard field work and the latest technology, to achieve one of the oldest and most fantastical goals- the discovery of a lost city. What a story.
following the breadcrumbs to a sunken city
Simon: "Nisnas...a creature with one eye, one leg and one arm"
The Nisnas in the Image : 👀
Lol, you beat me too it.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
The last Nissan I witnessed was on the freeway, getting cut off by a Prius (color me a deep, rich shade of Unsurprised).
It had 1 taillight, no rear passenger window (just that new shatter-proof stuff called plastic wrap + masking tape), and 1 headlight.
I believe the Prius felt danger was close at hand.. in the form of an accident-prone Nissan.
Timestamp plz?
@@Max_Le_Groom 13:58
The uncharted series did an amazing job covering iram as well.
Iv been to the deserts of Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia. Iv seen so many random clearly very old ruins in the deserts that no one knows what they are. Also there were many instances where when people dig the foundations for their homes they would fine old tombs and ruins but the government would just swarm the scene and take everything. Literally at my grandmothers house there’s a old ruin/ tomb in the back garden but it’s illegal to try to dig it up. My uncle and my cousin tried to get through into it once and the neighbours called the police and they were both arrested. The government officials finished off the dig and emptied it. Its even illegal to just have a metal detector their. Iv seen with my own eyes a house foundation being dug and a clear very old tomb/ruin in there but again government officials just took everything and no one knows what was actually found in there. Corruption is rampant in that part of the world and government officials just take whatever artefact’s for themselves.
House of Saud are corrupt.
I've always said that
one can't plant a
rosebush without
finding archeological
artifacts in the Middle
East! :)
Probably trying to make sure the museum of Brittain doesn't come take it first tbh lol
Smilar thing happened in turkey. Around the prophet tomb in tarsus. They closed the building and put special polis to make sure no one comes. After years they said they find nothing.
@@mehmetfatihcetin5932 yet people get mad about their freedom in America..... 😂
You should do a Great Lakes shipwrecks/history episode.
Didn't he?
@@thetvbaby83 I'm not sure. I know Ask A Mortician did one that was really good.
@@thetvbaby83 oh wait, he did that on side projects. I think he should just do a history of the great lakes video though. Its a really unique area.
also in the Southern Ocean
What about the flooding of the st.lawrence seaway?
6: Have you not considered how your Lord dealt with ‘Aad -
7: [With] Iram - who had lofty pillars,
8: The likes of whom had never been created in the lands
9: And [with] Thamud, who carved out the rocks in the valley?
10: And [with] Pharaoh, owner of the Pyramids? -
11: [All of] whom oppressed within the lands
12: And increased therein the corruption.
13: So your Lord poured upon them a scourge of punishment.
14: Indeed, your Lord is in observation.
He who controls the Spice, controls the universe
Underrated comment
The spice must flow
Spicy comment
Sounds like something a spice runner would say!
Smells like the baron Harkonnen 😤
Hypothesis: A city that drank itself to death. Drank water until the roof of the water table collapsed. Literally swallowed up by the Earth.
So a sinkhole eh? Paralyzingly terrifying, that thought is.
@@happybuddyperson I take it you live nowhere near Florida.
That would be similar to what is currently happening to Las Vegas.
Their water table has already dropped by over 100 feet in just a century. The whole region has an unsustainable water usage and will be gone within another century unless they build a water channel or reduce the number of pools.
@@Gilhelmi Modern examples from the news are what made me think of it.
@@Gilhelmi 84% of Nevada is owned by big brother lol
I'm from Oman and I visited the ruins showing at 18:39 , it's amazing to visit a place with that much history.
It's indeed very rare to see a high viewed youtube video that mentions my country's name so much.
Al Salam Everyone, from oman!!
Alaikom al salam from the UAE 🇦🇪 Love you all 🥰
و عليكم السلام من تونس 🇹🇳
ikr lol😂
u should be proud oman is imo the best arab country
@@jureklemencic7316 Always am, Always will be. While every nation burn their life time for quick fame, we just outlive everyone by trading and being chill.
Just the usual fights against Persia every few centuries
*drags giant hair pick across Arabia*
"We ain't found Shit!"
There's only one man who dare give me raspberries...
@@Mikey5421 lonestar!!!
Gotta use the Schwarz!!!
@@zachespinoza1794 I'm my own best friend!
@@paulgallagher5092 who made this man a gunner?
Hell, who needs Curiosity Stream when you have Geographics, Biographics, Megaprojects, Sideprojects...
I find your lack of Business Blaze disturbing
You can also make a top 10 Simon Whistler channels
Also forgot.. today I found out and top tenz
@@jean-michel_comhaire and totally bypassing Highlight History is nearly unforgivable.
*I like the ending. It's pure poetry !!!*
"The Atlantis may have succumbed to the sands of the desert but, it scaled unscathed through the sands of time." 👌
The collapse of the limestone cavern beneath the first site fits very well with the accounts of earthquakes and cities buried by the desert. I think that, plus the eight towers, plus the geographic location being corroborated by multiple sources strongly points to that as the settlement of Iram.
They say that the intersection of two lines is inevitable, three is a coincidence, but four suggests something of note is going on. The legends of a city suddenly struck by catastrophe sinking beneath the sand is one line, the repeated mentions of pillars is the second line, the correct geographic location is a third line, the wealth brought by the frankincense trade is the fourth line, and where they all intersect is a ruin that meets all of those descriptions.
@الأزدي Yes, I’m sure a band of superstitious nomads have a firm grip on geology, meteorology, and archaeology. 😒
@@Ezralite7 those crazy nomads building giant pyramids that align with the solstices across several continents. Have you considered that human progress isn't always linear?
@@Ezralite7 - What a non sequitor! As if one needs to understand the geological processes at play in the collapse of a subterranean limestone cave to accurately describe the catastrophic fate of a city sitting atop said cave. Archeological knowledge is required of the diggers, not the historical sources that suggest where to dig. And meteorology? Not seeing where it’s at all relevant, but while nomads may not know meteorology, they have a firm grasp on the expected weather patterns of their own time period.
@@Ezralite7a similar band of nomads made Gobekli Tepe. Nomadic hunter-gatherers built Stonehenge. Your skepticsm is a thin veil for your ignorance.
I don't know how Simon is managing to get these many videos done! As usual, great work 👍
Rocket man
@@Babylon_Fallin nice one
Cocaine
He doesn’t write or edit any of them
@@timothykaiser3571 Still presenting the entire content is hard considering the fact that he is hosting multiple channels.
The name Iram is also mentioned in the Qur'an.
And it says in the Qur'an that Arabia was full of green
And that Yamen was so rich and full of food that people didn't carry Supplies with them when traveling.
Because the fruit-rich trees were everywhere
Until they called upon themselves and said, "Our Lord, separate our travels."
People of Saba’ right?
@@BlizzardWind99 the people who built Iram were a tribe of giants, ppl of Saba are different
@@khalil8043 okay thanks JazakAllah Khair
You got a typo at 4:28, it's Labdanum not Laudanum. Laudanum is an opium tincture, labdanum is the perfume base/ herbal medicine.
i was wondering about that, lol
As a Saudi 🇸🇦 this place is like our Atlantis, there are many evidence of the city but I don’t think a gold city would go unnoticed in 2020 but I hope I am wrong. Btw I have been to rub alkali , it a place like no ever.
Why doesnt your government try to search for this city they have resourses and tools
It might be a bit like El Dorado, the supposed golden city in the Americas. I think I watched a documentary that said it was a combination of a translation error, greedy conquistadors and wishful thinking.
@@broteinsheikh Because there are much better things to do than search for mythical cities
@@KnivingDispodia no theres not they build things in dubai skyscrappers malls resorts etc they have everything they need already
@@broteinsheikh That’s the UAE, not Saudi Arabia
There’s so much crap probably buried in sand. As well as ocean. Man the lost history of earth. I want to know it all.
Mostly to go get the buried treasure.
@Maria Kelly lol that show lost me at season 1. I refine metals from scrap stuff so I ‘dig’ the precious metals 😉
you watched too many Indiana Jones
@@mohamedelhaddade6371 never seen one.
I wanna know what all is still buried in Doggerland
@@semaj_5022 never heard of that one. Where’s that at? Now I have a whole new land to learn of 🙏
1:45 - Chapter 1 - The empty quarter
6:20 - Chapter 2 - City of pillars
10:15 - Mid roll ads
11:20 - Chapter 3 - City of rubble or garden of delights ?
14:15 - Chapter 4 - The trails of dunes
16:40 - Chapter 5 - Eye in the sky
20:30 - Chapter 6 - Case closed ?
"Experienced another moist moment"
Gotta love that technical jargon
"THREE GODDAMN BULLETS! HOW THE HELL DID YOU DO IT WITH THREE BULLETS?"
"HOLY SHIT! RUN!"
"The empty quarter experienced another moist moment" -Simon Whistler, 2020
His poor wife.
the city of iram was also mentioned in the quran along with the story of the saba queen with the prophet solomon and it was a very rich,fertile, and strong kingdom named the kingdom of Saba
Imram or Ubar probably gained notoriety by being the "last chance for gas"...it was the only water source for considerable distance on either side of the north/south trans-Arabian trade route, so that if a caravan wasn't willing to pay the hefty fee for water access, it would in all likelihood not survive to the next oasis. That kind of thing easily brings resentment.
When half of the fortified town tumbles into a massive sinkhole, it's no wonder that this would be seen as an act of God to punish the unjust.
(ألم ترى كيف فعل ربك بعاد* و إرم ذات العماد) سورة الفجر
نقلك غير صحيح إرم ذات العماد بدون حرف (و)
Sic Parvis Magna. *uncharted theme intensifies !!!*
Indeed!!! 8D
Now I want to replay the uncharted series. Sure, definitely took liberties with certain facts but the games were a great way to inspire curiosity about ancient civilizations
Its times like these I can appreciate my middle eastern heritage. Probably gonna go back to some of these verses mentioned in the Quran to do my own research too! (Thanks for the video!!!)
They were the people of add right?
@@futurewitness2862 yes, the people of 'Ad. He is usually linked as a son to the biblical character Uz the son of Aram (the founder of the City of Iram?).
and the other tribe, Thamud, is usually linked as a son to Gether, another son of Aram.
@@elmajraz6019 thanks! No wonder Quran always relate and links people of Aad and people of Thamud
@@mohdsyahrulazmanmdsaru6909 welcome. it's a pleasure.
@george james I will try. What is your question?
I had never heard of this city before, but it intrigues me more then the famous Atlantis.
@شبيح Wow, interesting
I guess play Uncharted 3, if you have a playstation & assuming you're old enough & your parents let you. It's not very accurate & the story isn't great, but the game is still really fun, if you can finish it.
@@MrChristianDT Uncharted is an old game now. Why not read a book on it instead and get some facts? I mean I enjoyed uncharted, but don't see how its relevant 🤷♀️
Try reading the novel Declare by Tim Powers.
@@Stettafire well its fun thats what he was saying
Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) said that one of the signs of the nearness of the judgment day is that the Arabian Island will become green with rivers once again.
How did he know it was as such before? That was at least 7000 years prior to his time!
I've looked up some of the English translations of the Hadith but Sadly none of them (the ones I've read) get it right (they translate it to "become" when it's actually "return" or "become once again".
Anyone speaking Arabic can confirm what I've said tho. Google the Hadith "تعود جزيرة العرب مروجا و أنهارا"
Yes. And it's happening. The Sinai peninsula in Egypt has a greening project going on.
Do yourself a favor, learn the history of Earth and man then you’ll find Islam to be a waste of time
@@bojokowski
History of earth and man?
What makes you so sure that the "history of man and earth" that you know is so solid?
Muslims have the most rigorous method of preserving history, and we still have doubts about a lot of things and say "we simply don't know" about others.
On the other hand, you have the west. You find and old coin in Siberia, build a whole hypothesis around it in a "scientific paper" and then start making youtube videos about that hypothesis like it's a fact.
Take human origin for example:
You claim humans evolved in Africa. Why? Because of Lucy and other things. Everyone takes that for a given. But wait! We've discovered human fossils that date before Lucy is Spain and China!
Too late, everyone thinks humans started in Africa.
What was that? Our dating methods for fossils are not accurate in the first place and the variation between studies for the same fossil casually reaches 1-2 million years?
I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that!
B )
Wait wait wait...they've discovered that "Lucy" isn't actually Lucy and there are bones of at least 2 other animals in the same fossil?
Nah man...let's not let a couple of bones get in the way of knowledge!
YEAH!
SCIENCE B*TCH!
I swear your arrogance and perceived superiority over other people is laughable! They're treating you like little children and deceiving you with extremely silly lies and there you are, thinking you're the best knowing person on earth!
Did anyone ever tell you that Christian's in Egypt hailed Muslims as liberators because the Byzantines oppressed them? Dis anyone tell you that their Pope was in hiding until Muslims came and gave him peace? Did anyone ever tell you that Muslims took a fifth of what the Byzantines took from them in taxes? And they took none if they converted to Islam?
Here's the big one:
DID ANYONE EVER TELL YOU THAT OLL OF THIS WAS DOCUMENTED BY A CHRISTIAN HISTORIAN! (so no bias here!!!)
Look it up. His name is Jacob Rovela.
@@abdelkarim8381
That’s all good stuff. I don’t put much credit into any of the religions. They all gloss over the creation of Earth and man. A couple vague sentences from 2 thousand years ago just doesn’t cut it for the modern thinking man.
I too would rather say I don’t know, than push bullshit to the masses
The history of Earth and man won’t fit in the youtube comments section, but I know it pretty well and it makes all the sense in the world. It even explains the creation of religions..
@@bojokowski
"It even explains the creation of the religions"
It's all hypothesis. It fits perfectly because it fits in what you believe in. That's called circular reasoning.
I have a religion
I say the source is God
You say the source is someone who made it to control people and whatnot.
What makes you think that your idea of the source of religion is correct and mind is false?
Think about it
Just because it fits your narrative?
I say that my idea about the origin of my religion is correct because the religion provided evidences for its authenticity.
What evidences do you have for your view of the matter? Have you ever tried to look up the evidences that Islam provided?
A wise man once said:
A man who's recieved a word from God must be the most honest man.
And a man who falsely claims to have recieved the word of God when he hasn't is the most dishonest man.
And a man who can't tell the difference between the most honest man and the most dishonest man is the most stupid man.
Look up Islam, hear the evidences Muhammad (pbuh) has provided, read about his life. Does he look like a dishonest man? Do his evidences not make sense?
And in general, be careful. You may not believe in the afterlife, but consider this:
The mere possibility that you may be wrong and that you may suffer endless suffering in hell because of it, should make you take this thing seriously.
I'm not telling you to believe because you may suffer in hell if you were wrong. I'm just telling you to think carefully and consider the subject with care and wisdom because it's not a claim that can be easily brushed aside. It's an endless life, either in heaven, or in hellfire.
Love the comparisons between the city of el dorado in the americas and Iram. All the guides give different answers
Even if it wasn’t Iram it’s still a pretty cool discovery.
20:51 "-were all tall and powerfully built. Like pillars." *queue pillar men theme*
I lived in Oman. The coastline is littered with ancient settlements and the remains of magnificent cities from throughout history. People told me Qalhat was destroyed by earthquake, and it certainly looks like it. You stand on the shore, and suddenly it comes into focus that the rocky 'dunes' are in fact collapsed buildings in a vast citadel that has fallen into the sea, and that can be seen stretching out and onwards beneath the crystal clear waters of the ocean. It is like it collapsed in a moment and was just abandoned, because I saw it after a huge cyclone that wrought considerable shore erosion, and many interesting possessions just left by people were dis-entombed. Particularly down by Salalah, the hub of the frankincense trade, there are civilisations upon civilisations from the very birth of man. I lived inside what they call Queen Sheba's Palace, a huge sprawling castle on the dune over which coastal development is encroaching. Like, huge and magnificent, the remains of an advanced people's mega-buildings. Up the ways is Samhuram, where I went surfing every weekend. What you think is a headland, when you walk down through the ruins of this massive Lord of the Rings abandoned city and beneath an arch that had a very fierce black African's visage upon it, you find is actually a mostly human constructed edifice of massive stones. All of these places were abandoned when I was there, left in Ozymandias state. Oman is the most beautiful place on this planet, and experiencing all this was an ephemeral experience. However, beware of sharks.
It's a tragedy that I have only just found your channel, I've been binging episodes. Absolutely fantastic!
This channel is terrible, always gives scraps of partial information, sensationalist at best
Iram of the pillars, is considered a lost city, region or tribe mentioned in the Quran. Just that no one found it, many think it just a legend. Glad it was found. Using the NASA technology is a really clever idea.
4:03 ma boy rocking those golden rolex
Iram joins Atlantis, El Dorado, The Lost City of Z, The Lost Land of Lyonesse, Aztlan and countless more! Nuff Said!
4:04 Assurbanipal rocking that Rolex like a boss
They were advanced indeed
Love the mention of Cthulhu.
@Draugr dark and creepy as it will always be......:)
I'd love to see you gusy tackle the city of Mogadishu on the channel at some point. It was arguably the most important city on the planet 650-750 years ago due to its ideal location at the center of the Indian Ocean trading zone. That it was so highly coveted for centuries, only to fall to an absolute nadir at the dawn of the 21st Century, has always fascinated me. It makes sense why many of the ancient trading cities collapsed, but Mogadishu had possibly the most going for it geographically of any trading city in existence at the time
I would love to see that to
Thanks Simon. Great video!
*"Where frankincense traders flogged their goods"*
If that's not a euphemism, it ought to be.
I read this RIGHt when he said it
Kinda like flogging the Bishop?
Learned about this through the Uncharted series. In fact, those games are what got me into history. And people say games are a waste of time.
Same here, along with the Tomb Raider games, high school for me was a drag, since they only focused on wars and depressing stuff throughout history, so I had to learn through video games, Uncharted 3 and 4 are my favorites in the franchise, because of Iram and Libertaila set in the games.
Call of Duty and Uncharted helped me get into history
Uncharted, Assassin's Creed and Age of Empires are what got me into history. I do think a lot of people can relate to it as well.
@@train_go_boom2065Call of Duty World Wars and Black Ops I’m assuming? That’s very cool. Uncharted, Assassins Creed, and Age of Empires is what got me into history.
Simon reads, "Sent on a diplomatic mission" and my brain automatically finished it with "to Alderaan" -_-
Great work !!!
One of my favourite videos you've made, keep it up!
So many tales of lost cities due to disaster. It's almost as if this happens quite often and frequent throughout our history. Yet it's considered a crazy idea that human civ goes back way way further back.
Well nobody is saying that human civilisation isnt a old think in fact its a old as humas itself it just changed a lot
@@valletas true. I agree. But I'm saying well before the ice age old. Hundreds of thousands of years ago.
@@valletas But people assume that our oldest civilisations were simple Hunter-gatherers when in actual fact, they could’ve been a lot more technologically advanced than us for all we know.
@@CircumcisedUnicorn nah not more tachnologically advenced if that was the case we would have records and other things about that
Humans arent really that old
BUT they could have use some primitive technology that we never did
@@valletas This is the thing, we're quick to assume that there are a lack of records, or structures, of past civlisation technological feats. But in between a catalysmic event around 12,000 years ago, followed by severe globlal flooding, any pieces of evidence would've been either completely destroyed or buried underwater. Are you aware that we've explored less than 5% of our oceans? If entire expeditions were funded for this, I am positive that we will find a lot more than we could even imagine. Our current narrative of earlu humans is that they were basic and incompetent hunter-gatherers only 10,000 years ago. If this is the case, how did they manage to build the 10,000 year old site of Göbeklitepe? This monolithic complex with vast pillars and underground networks shouldn't have been remotely possible if early humans were mere hunter gatherers. There is so much more that we simply do not know about the past civilisations and it's not far fetched to assume that some could've existed with technology that is even superior than ours.
Oh man i had never heard of this before. Thanks. This channel is a gold mine of information and entertainment
brilliant video!! thank you
That ending was remarkabley sentimental for Simon, I dig it.
"There is nothing in the desert, and no man needs nothing."
-Faisal
Faisal who?
@@Darkest_matter Faisal I bin Al-Hussein bin Ali Al-Hashemi... to be specific.
@@Darkest_matter your Daddy
@Deez Nutz I’m not exactly sure so I might be wrong but at that time the people of aad were very big and tall
I have had to pause the video and google the information presented so many times that it's taken me nearly 90 mins to finish. Well researched sir, even for your high standards!
awesome, we need more of this.
Oooh real early to this one. Thanks for the great content once again
One of your more informative.
I've known of "Ubar" for years. I've know of some of the legends and sources for years. Still, this video presented related information that I had not known before. I appreciate the research that went into creating this presentation.
Can you do a video on Shambhala? This video reminded me of Uncharted 3, then i remembered uncharted 2's shambhala.
As ever a fascinating video on a subject totally unknown to most, but one that has its own tale to tell. Thank you
Having never heard of this before, i genuinely did not expect this city to exist
I’ll be very happy to meet you here and show you all the places you’ve mentioned in this episode 🙏🏼👌🏼👌🏼
You know, considering the desert environment, civilization located between two disparate civilizations in Europe and China, and mysterious vanishing in a night of tragedy that is considered by some to be a punishment by a god, I'm wondering if Hiromu Arakawa had heard of Iram when she came up with the city of Xelkses for Fullmetal Alchemist.
Very probably, wasnt Xelkes meant to be quite wealthy/ beautiful?
Fantastic episode great job ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Great stuff
4:05 that's a sick watch...
The Rolex of the Sands. 😀
Red silver? So walls of pyrargyrite? That would look awesome!
If it's true the city must have been truly breathtaking
Indeed.
I got three ads for some resort called Atlantis while watching this. The connections the algorithm makes make me smile.
Never realised the term "Ajib-o-Gharib" to describe "strange and unbelievable", was derived from two brothers Ajib and Gharib.
Where did you hear that term?
@Tay Stan urdu borrow too much from Arabic anyway it's a common phrase in arabic but u never thought about its origins.
It's the other way around, the brothers are named after the adjectives
Correction: Ajib means "marvelous" or "wondrous", not "unbelieveable".
We have the same term in pashto as well
I went to Salalah Oman. They have ruins of past city. Very impressive indeed. I only later found out how important that city was historically.
Credit for a well researched & excellently delivered narrative on the lost City of Iram.
Learned from it, appreciated. Geographics is a quality use of anyone's time.
I believe the round stone columns around the stone gate were the pillars or towers ... They were used until the early medieval time.. they actually found a early medieval chessboard there inside one and the Italians came and rebuilt some of what you could already see to give a more visual reference.
This was an info dense episode, in the extreme!
Awesome
so, "limestone cavity" likely means a drained aquifer. the reason there was an oasis there, likely, was an aquifer. and the overuse of the resource over time caused the water level to drop enough to change how pressure was distributed. causing cavity collapse. ending site viability.
so, in a sense, they were a victim of their own success.
strangely, my impression was that Ubar and Iram of the Pillars were different places. but that could be me confusing Wallace Stevens and Historicity.
I love this place cause one of my favorite games has it as its focus. U3 baby!
Having been to Wadi Rm, I'd love to hear the evidence for Aram being there - the towering pillars are natural cliffs there, and it was definitely part of the frankincense trade route heading north to Petra
Brilliant, do more like this please
I feel like this idea was a great one! Wow im amazed!
I didn't hear anything about using lidar to scan underneath the dessert. This technique revealed many hidden structures and cities underneath dense rain forests in south America. We know by fact that many parts of the ancients civilizations have been engulfed be the sands, so we might maybe not find Iram, but at least we could find many other places that don't exist anymore.
Tree cover is not even remotely equivalent to sand for remote imaging methods.
Forest canopies are not even that thick, they are just opaque to human eyes using the visible spectrum of light, but using frequencies they can reveal solid structures and land topology hidden beneath the leaves and branches.
Contrasted to using LIDAR on sand dunes which would be like trying to image through moderately dense sedimentary rock.
The only hope of finding something beneath sand is if the topology of the dunes themselves reveal oddly regular shapes from above as many archaeological sites have been identified beneath modern grass covered land in this way due to changes in elevation not easily explained by geology alone.
Video idea: the Canal of the Pharaohs. It was an ancient version of the Suez Canal and connected the Nile River to the Red Sea.
Also the Great Dam of Ma'rib would be awesome too.
This was a really good episode
Thank you 🙏🏽
"Iram cannot be allowed to have chariots of mass destruction"
Uncharted 3 music kicks in :
Fantastic - my wonder of the world never fails to ignite with the watching of these videos
I've been waiting for Simon to make a video on this
Interestingly, it also gets a mention in a Quranic version: Surah al-Fajr (6-14)سُوۡرَةُ الفَجر :
وَٱلۡفَجۡرِ (١) وَلَيَالٍ عَشۡرٍ۬ (٢) وَٱلشَّفۡعِ وَٱلۡوَتۡرِ (٣) وَٱلَّيۡلِ إِذَا يَسۡرِ (٤) هَلۡ فِى ذَٲلِكَ قَسَمٌ۬ لِّذِى حِجۡرٍ (٥) أَلَمۡ تَرَ كَيۡفَ فَعَلَ رَبُّكَ بِعَادٍ (٦) إِرَمَ ذَاتِ ٱلۡعِمَادِ (٧) ٱلَّتِى لَمۡ يُخۡلَقۡ مِثۡلُهَا فِى ٱلۡبِلَـٰدِ ...
By the Dawn (1) And ten nights, (2) And the Even and the Odd, (3) And the night when it departeth, (4) There surely is an oath for thinking man. (5) Dost thou not consider how thy Lord dealt with (the tribe of) A'ad, (6) *With many-columned Iram, (7) The like of which was not created in the lands* ; ....
Just be sure to not to drink the water here. Sir Francis Drake and Nathan Drake learned the hard way what brought about the end for this great society.
Best game in the series.
@@SamuraiGhostGirlThought Thief's End was best in terms of story but Drake's Deception refined the classic game play the most.
@@jacobhuff3748 maybe. I like all of the games, but the third was my favourite.
@@jacobhuff3748 well i love uncharted but absolutely hated the gunplay so i am here more for the setting
I like all of them but i think 4 has the best one
Great video as always. But somehow this time the music in the background drives me crazy!
Thanks for the Lovecraft nod!
Dying dreams cry their dirges into the air
and the night winds howl without a care
as a traveler wanders the ruined streets there
in many pillared Iram.
The countless sands they bury deep
the secrets they were sworn to keep
they lull the dead city back to sleep
the sleep of hidden Iram.
"Disturb us not!" the wise sands say
"Seek not what we have hidden away,
for the cost is dear and dearly you'll pay
for the secrets of lost Iram!"
But even the wisest cannot understand
the warnings of the shifting sands
for such knowledge is lost in the world of man
since the fall of pillared Iram.
The unwary traveler makes his lonely bed
the secrets of the aeons dead
drifting through the air and into his head
as he sleeps in nighted Iram.
In his dreams the eldritch things
come bear him away on nightmare wings
they bid him to write what no man has seen
since the age of lost Iram.
"Allah, Allah!" the traveler cries
"Why have you hidden me from your eyes?"
"Speak now if what I have seen is lies!"
silent are the stones of Iram.
He stretches his hands into the air
waiting for an answer he will never hear
and too late he sees what is written there
on the stones of ancient Iram.
HERE LIES IRAM DAT AL IMAD
BURIED IN SAND AND BEYOND THE STARS
MAY THE SECRETS THEY FOUND PLAGUE THE WORLD NO MORE
DISTURB NOT THE RUINS OF IRAM!
The long night is over and the day begins
the traveler clutches feverishly the pages he's penned
and knows that madness is his only friend
and the secrets of lost Iram.
The prince of Assyria in Iram lies dead
the man called Abdul Alhazred
and walking freely in his stead
the secrets of pillared Iram.
wonderful, are you the writer of this poem?
Yup! Thanks much, friend! Seemed like a good place to spread the love.
This seems more plausible than atlantis because it can just be covered up by sandstorms
What? And atlantis just fell into the sea...
i'd love to see you dig deeper into the history of the silk road trade route.
Could you please do one on the Vanderbilt Biltmore Estate?
Love everything you do!
"We've found a city from the right time period with pillars and a market, where all the trade roads lead to"
Rival "you haven't found it though because it might not have existed"
And the funding cycle continues, because a literal city isn't enough xD
Actually Iram is supposed to be very old but he's never mentioned that somehow!
Iram was before the time of Abraham. So all those relatively new mentions (600 bc and such) are obviously not it.
Proven by the fact that none if them called it Iram in the first place ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ain't it funny how the rivals tend to be the mainstream normies ruling in the Levant and the west? Basically Jordan, Israel, etc, and their puppets Dan Gibson and these "Islamic" good-for-nothing scholars.
I lived in Oman as a child. Got to meet Sir Ranulph Fiennes and got a signed map of one of his expeditions. :)
I didnt know why he was there at the time so it's interesting to now hear what the mission was.
المفروض ينذكر اسم المكتشفين العرب والعرب المفروض يكتشفوهة مو خواجات
Hi Simon , was enjoying this episode and a conversation ensued , a friend asked " I wondered how much from all these channels , he retains " .