Göbekli Tepe: The Dawn of Civilization
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- Опубликовано: 25 июн 2024
- Thousands of years before anyone thought to construct pointy Egyptian tombs or arrange mysterious stone circles, there was Göbekli Tepe: a 20th century archaeological discovery in Turkey that predates civilization itself.
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Source/Further reading:
Discover Magazine, in depth: www.discovermagazine.com/the-...
Smithsonian, similar (if older): www.smithsonianmag.com/histor...
Ancient.eu: www.ancient.eu/Gobekli_Tepe/
www.ancient.eu/article/234/go...
Official website of the German Archaeological Institute: www.dainst.org/en/projekt/-/p...
Website of the dig team: www.dainst.blog/the-tepe-tele...
National Geographic: www.nationalgeographic.com/ma...
Why its probably not the product of a forgotten, hyper-advanced civilization: www.scientificamerican.com/ar...
Skull cult: www.nationalgeographic.com/ne...
Astronomy: www.newscientist.com/article/...
Comet: www.newscientist.com/article/...
Paper by the dig-team, why Gobekli Tepe is not an observatory: maajournal.com/Issues/2017/Vol...
I've been to Ankor Wat, the Great Pyramid, Petra, even Stonehenge, but this site affected me the most. It's a simply mind-boggling site. I saw it in 2007, and you can't help but feel the awe of being in the presence of something so immensely ancient. It was so ancient it would have been immensely ancient even to the cultures WE consider to be ancient, if they'd been remembered at all. Yet, you can't help but feel a connection to those long-ago peoples. You ask, "What were your dreams? What gods did you worship...what did your people see in your time?" Its staggering
Some may also ask, which race of ancient aliens helped man construct this?
Lucky
It's an annunaki genetic dump site. That's why there's no water, food or religion in it.
@@gein2287 mainstream science, which demands conformity to all their theories and is a religion itself, won't allow anyone to think this could have any thing to do with the annunaki site. I have no idea if it is or not, but I find it so weird that those who claim to be scientist refuse to look at any evidence that doesn't support their theories. Instead they try and fit things they don't understand into their own ideas, instead of looking at them with an open mind. It's funny how they make fun of religion, yet do so many things that religious people do when looking at evidence they can't understand.
Go to Newgrange too.
We don't know if it is the first... Just the oldest...so far.
It can't be the first. Maybe Adam's Calendar was before. Atlantis was real. It's America. Compare the native languages to ancient meter enter and you'll be shocked that the words are nearly the same.
@@chikato7106 do you have a link to an example of the similar language pattern you mentioned?
@@xxreeexxepstnddntkllhmslf4871 Following, that sounds intriguing !
The stuff off india's west coast is 18-36,000yrs old and nobody even checks it out.
@@chikato7106 yes adams calendar seems to be the oldest
I love the fact that there must be hundreds of places like this that are still buried and history is always being re written.
Think of the technology that was in the days of Noah.
Nothing new under the sun ecclesiastes
And it is never asked WHY are the buried...
@@fkUTube449 It wasn't time. The dirt covering it is not sedimentary, it's the exact same dirt from top to bottom. It appears that it was buried purposely.
It's not a 'fact that there must be hundreds' of similar places. It's more likely that this is the one and only example.
@@AJWRAJWR We don't really know. Through satellite data they have uncovered hundreds of previously undiscovered sites in the Amazon alone. Now what they hold who knows, but there could absolutely be more sitting out there.
This video is only a year old, but so much has changed. New evidence has come to light that this site did have people dwelling there, possibly year-round. Water was harvested by collecting rain in multiple cisterns, a burial has been found, along with hearths at deeper layers. There is no doubt that the tee-pillars represent humanoids from some ancient narrative as evidenced by arms, belts, necklaces, etc. carved into the stones. There are dozens of other contemporary sites, but one major sister site being excavated is Karahan Tepe 35 KM to the east that is more focused on humans in the artwork in comparison to the emphasis on wild animals at Gobleki Tepe.
I came to the comments looking to see if these updates has been posted, thanks for including them in such a thorough way! Can't wait to see further results from this excavation and research.
I want to know the connection between the aboriginal of Australia and the markings on this structure
@@patrickgrant6389 likely none. The Aboriginals are devolved. Do you think if an alien race came down and transformed your society and landscape that the only thing humans would do then is get fucked up on alien drugs?
We must finally admit, the whole, 'hunter-gatherer', rise of cities about 5000 years ago... Needs some revision. Not the 'alien visitor' revision, but serious academic, peer-revue stuff.
I believe the "fuck around and find out" method is something we could look into
We continue finding older and older stuff and presenting it as "The Dawn of Civilization". How about we just put a hold on that type of overconfident extrapolation. At this point, it's clear that we don't have any idea when this illusory dawn began. It's always so frustrating when our self proclaimed institutions of knowledge can't momentarily wade into the wisdom of admitted ignorance. Academic inertia can be a potent nullifying actor in the quest for epistemological and scientifically driven pursuits of truth. Lock your windows, close your doors. Biggie Smalls.
@Kelly T LOL
@Kelly T aliens......you think they travelled through space and time, vast distances with advanced propulsion systems, in machines built to withstand re-entry into the atmosphere.....to then get us to carve little stone animals. Stone...not metal work.... stone 🤣
@Kelly T I'd imagine that the belittling of your overconfidence has very little to do with Navy pilots. I do believe the accounts of Cmdr. Fravor and various other pilots and personnel, but nothing that they've observed proves ET involvement. That's just further extrapolation and potential bias based on incomplete data sets that have likely coalesced with various flavors of subterfuge. I'd love nothing more than for the answer to be star beings, so I too have to consistently keep my own biases in check. Sure, it's on the list of possibilities, but it's not at the top, especially as it pertains to ancient earth-based engineering.
It's amazing that humanity's history is constantly being rewritten. We keep finding more and more and keep going further back. Excited to see what else comes next
We knew about this place 40 years ago.
And yet morons still believe in Abrahamic Religion.
@@mugfish0 I think Abhramic religions real masters know about this ancient history and they are the devils who hide real ancient history of humanity and shove these dumb abhramic religions to everyone.
It's amazing that the FARMER who FIRST found it gets ZERO mention here
OK, try this: Find 'THE MOVIE PYRAMID" (3-1/2 hours), by Fehmi Krasniqi. You say you want to know how it (Khufu) and the others were built? Well ..
This structure is so advanced for its time and leads me to believe that there are other structures that would be ancient when this was being built.
Nah mate totally possible with the nomadic farmers... they wanted to have sweet stone circles and not tend to their crops. Duh bro
Of course they didn't just start with this would of took a lot of development to get to this point
What this proves is that we have no idea how or when society started or anything really
"Stuff just keeps on getting older..."
-Graham Hancock
If you haven't heard of this man, you are missing out.
Michael tsarion too
“We are a people with amnesia”;)
Missing out on a lot of idiocy
@@Tareltonlives Edgy comment, bruh. Teach me your ways.
@@coryCuc Oh it's easy. Just apply critical thinking to conspiracy/fringe theories and voila it comes naturally
Here's to Klaus Schmidt for finding this place and rewriting human history 🙋
such a joke all these fools here think they are learning with 0 logic or first hand records or evidence to back the theory, while it remains covered up. only things that aren't covered up are kosher to a santa clause for adult story. we inherited every buried city around the world then destroyed them since early 1800s its i600s ir j600s not 1600s and so forth..
I raise my cup of coffee to him
Im surprised they didn’t hide this
@@ChildOfApollo zombie
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What catches my eye is that all of the carvings are in relief. Primatives may scratch into stone, but it takes higher thinking to plan out and then execute a relief carving.
"It was here... that humanity's first great construction project was born." Until we find an older, greater one.
Klaus Schmidt, a hero of archaeology.
You fool, forgot all other prehistory archeologists
Not to me.
Simon Whistler, a hero in all things info
@@TheGrinbery not a competition
Why don’t more people talk about this? This is huge!
It's so new, and upends everything we think we knew about how early civilization began. Gobeckli Tepe was as old to Otzi the Iceman in his time as his mummy is to us, and he's usually described as if he was a caveman.
cause its in turkey and every one hates turkey
That's what she said
Graham Hancock, Eric Von Daniken, have been taking about this for ages.
Because other archialogists are so insecure and don't want to have their life's work be made irrelevant, so they destroy the man who finds it and ridicule the person who promotes it. Graham Hancock on Rogan. Fascinating studf
This needs to be updated. Apparently, there is now evidence of habitation on site, though it’s probably way too early to draw any conclusions.
The question of how this (apparently) hunter-gatherer culture could have successfully organized the requisite social structures required to build this site is truly captivating. And just how they learned the necessary skills…is truly a potentially history-upending puzzle.
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there's nothing misterious about organization. even animals or insects can organize. humans at that time were no different from us, they just had less knowledge, but they clearly had a language.
@@ekklesiast ,
Yes, I agree. I would only add that other animals seem to organize in response to largely “preprogrammed” imperatives - instincts - and don’t (much) depend on improvisation or complex communication. The skills necessary for humans to build that site, however, would have been under development for thousands of years prior to its construction, and that includes the necessary “project management” that is a prerequisite to undertakings of that scale. You’re clearly correct to say they possess those advanced skills. But why, when, and how did they learn them? Who masterminded the means by which disparate, hunter-gathering tribes could come together peacefully, communicate, agree on goals, objectives, techniques, timing, materials, resources, population maintenance, work schedules and on and on that, so far as all experience has taught us, are necessary? It at least suggests we have some significant elements of our history very wrong, and that some kind of human collective existed much earlier even than the 12,000 years the site suggests.
back when i was studying history for my major, if memory serves me, one of my professors noted that possibly 95% of human history beyond 8-10,000yrs is pretty much lost. as in gone for good. we humans didn't start physically keeping record until around 5-6000 yrs ago.
@@sunny-sq6ci,
Your point is undeniably among the most directly relevant in the whole discourse. So why do I keep forgetting it?
I think we made a grave error in assuming that ancient humans were not as intelligent or resourceful as modern man.
Humans have been as intelligent as they are now for at least 50k years, on average even more so, because you had to be a survivor, stupidity and sloth were not rewarded. They lacked the knowledge, but start with a Cro Magnon toddler, and they end up the same place and most modern humans.
I agree.
@@snewsom2997 these days stupidity and sloth ARE rewarded though...
Hell yeah neadtheral were emotional as fuck maybe even had a greater sense of magnetism. They spoke with a high pitched voice.
It is the religious dogma drilled into the young minds that produces fanatics that blow up things like the Buddha statutes in Afghanistan, the statutes in Iraq and so on.
I don't think the t-shaped pillars are meant to resemble people (or gods). Look at those animal carvings. Those people knew how to make realistic images of the world around them. If they had wanted the pillars to resemble people or gods, they would look like people or gods, not like something a three year old put together from very heavy very large lego bricks. Picasso and cubism was still a few thousand years away. Those pillars probably had a very mundane function, which required them to be t-shaped. My guess is that they held up a roof of some kind. Maybe a large tent top, made from animal skins or woven reeds. Something that 12000 years later we would not find any remnants of. The way the pillars are laid out suggests that as well. You have smaller ones around the shape of the building and then two higher ones more to the middle. If I was trying to create a simple yet impressive "room" of some sort, that's probably the design I would come up with after a few tries.
I studied history at a German university in the 1990s. The discovery of Göbleki Tepe was ... well ... at first our professors laughed about it and waved it of. It was too unbelievable to be true. The dating must be wrong. It must be some kind of hoax. But the data kept coming and it was convincing. It was earth shattering. Everything taught about early human history and the rise of civilization had to be re-written.
I've still not been to Turkey to see it myself, but I absolutely plan to.
@Evo Twingo Really? I thought they would be proud of it. I noticed something similar in Malta, though, when I was looking for some of the lesser known stone temples there. I talked to people who had no idea they had a 4000 year old temple directly behind their house.
@Evo Twingo Turkey has too many old important ruins. And none of them relate to the current inhabitants..
Well, there are visible arms carved on the said stones, although they are not featured in the video, and pretty distinguishable as arms and hands down to the number of fingers and the hands come together on the "belly" (sort of) of the stone. It seems more like a stylistic choice, and could (maybe, possibly, we really have nothing more than vague connections) imply a ritual stance, as the hands gathered around the belly feature (or at least used to feature) in many religions around the globe, in muslim prayer it is still practiced as a stance. (don't quote me on any of this, I happened to watch a documentary with a lot of speculations involved a few years ago)
@@MissyLaMotte Why have I not known about ancient stone temples of Malta? :O I need to know more. I knew that little island state had more to offer -.-
well i think it was sound they made there. i just need proof now x
I think it’s equally important to focus on what we can’t see then only what remains. We are predisposed to ‘fill in the blanks’ based on our experience. As a kid, in order to build a great snow fort I’d dig down deep then add the roof with branches and wood scraps, then I’d comer it up again. It looked dug out until you were inside and saw the layer of wood holding the snow up. It was also crazy warm and hidden. Seems to me something similar could have been done.
Awesome video!
This is when RPG stories start, an ancient evil, sealed for aeons, is released once again upon the world.
Lets hope no future archeologists accidentally discover Mar a Lago....
Jupp, we still have yet to answer the important question of Göbekli Tepe:
Who's potbelly is it?
@@KamiRecca LMAO 😂😂
Evil is a point of view; open your mind to our 7th dimensional lords.
Don't read the book!
Definitely didn't expect a jojo's reference with my history lesson today but I'm here for it.
I was just about to say the same
JoJo transcends all
Which means Dio took them down
Came here to say the same thing. Was listening to it in the background and had to rewind it. Was like like; is that a JoJo reference in my educational video? Shit like this gets me into history.
You were expecting a history lesson, but it was me, Dio!
Ok so I wasn’t trippin when I heard that lmao!
Great job!!
Awesome Video!
How about giving some credit to the farmer who found the artifacts and brought them to Schmidt and others when he found them on and around the hill. The team of archeologists at first didn't believe him, but when Schmidt saw them he saw the similarity to the ones he found at Nevali Cori. That's why he went to the hill. Also, the local people in the area still had a spring festival including feasts on the hill! Ask the locals and you'll probably find out more about any place you go.
Now thats actually quite interesting. I'd like to know more about their seasonal celebrations.
true, archaeologists saw the site in the 90s but completely wrote it off and assumed it was from the ottoman period, the farmer took alot to convince them to have another look.
@@DvitusR When your land is so ancient that you dismiss a new find as just another worthless 1000-year-old site.
@@SecularIranian they were American archeologists but yeah
Yes it is pretty convenient for the Western RUclipsr to completely ignore the role of locals in its discovery. Makes for a nicer "savior hero Westerner" story.
1:20 - Chapter 1 - The ancient hill
5:25 - Chapter 2 - Building a miracle
9:00 - Chapter 3 - Potbelly hill
12:20 - Chapter 4 - The pillars of creation
15:40 - Chapter 5 - The return
Thank you! 😉👍
OMG. I only just finished Pillars of Creation.😜
Thank you for the time stamps!
Thank you some of the info in the vid dragged on for to long
Thank you
That chain of events that led Schmidt to read that 'paragraph' etc. etc. Is mind boggling
because *Harran Plain* was the Garden of Eden. Hunter-gatherers suddenly began to carve some giant T-shaped pillars around Harran Plain 12.000 years ago. First, they built those 6 metres long enclosure D central pillars at Göbekli Tepe…
I doubt that, because eden is guarded by a flaming sword which destroys anything that tries to enter.
@@sirwaylonthe1st239 🤣
This is such a remarkable site. We know so little about human history & it’s exciting to be alive now when science is finally helping us uncover our history more quickly & efficiently.
@A Moye The history of Humanity as a species. Its not that hard a concept to grasp.
@Evo Twingo The Church and the King sure do have lots of power today. Big brain thoughts
let me tell you what happened. (urfa) means the place where the spirits first landed. Adam was sent to urfa from the star of sirius. Adam had 3 siblings. atlantis, mu, nibiru. Teleportation to Sirius and Urfa can be made every July. Adam and Eve were brought down to earth through this dimensional gate. There is Karahantepe around one kilometer from Göbeklitepe. Gog Magog tribes, who lived about 20 thousand years before Adam and Eve, were lowered to the Karahan Hill. atlantis = turkey manisa. tomb and treasure of h.z suleyman = turkey manisa. ark of the covenant = manisa. Jerusalem is Istanbul. h.z jesus was born in manisa ascended to the sky in istanbul beykoz
1-Efes (Ephesos)
2-İzmir (Smyrna)
3-Bergama (Pergamon)
4-Salihli (Sardes)
5-Alaşehir (Philadelphia)
6-Denizli (Laodikeia)
7-Akhisar (Thyateira)
It is around Manisa in 7 churches mentioned in the Bible.
Visiting Gobekli Tepe is going at the top of my bucket list!
Loved the Jostar reference
this is a favorite subject, the early culture of that area and the beginning of farming etc, Neolithic farmer folk and their migrations into Europe. For comparison of time, Otzi the Iceman died 5300 years ago and Gobekli Tepe was that distance and a bit more, to him as he is to us. There are habitations found there now, some years after this was filmed, and I have hopes of learning so much more of this culture of people around the Harran Plains
This place is definitely on my bucket list
I can't wait to see an archeologist 10 000 years from now to find my house and theorize if it was an ancient temple to trees because of the two plastic christmas trees is found in the cellar.
You figured out how they think. Thanks.
Lol
"Hmm, there's this big mound at the edge of ancient city limits with the bones of chickens, cows, metal boxes, and some weird material that remained undamaged by time. There's giant metal structures with smaller metal boxes with circular holes on the front. This must be a series of ceremonial grounds.", is literally just a garbage dump.
Seriously though, whenever archaeologists can't explain a thing themselves, it seems like its always ceremonial when it could easily just be something mundane. For example, people put so much value in the idea of Stonehenge and other henges being ceremonial, but for all we know they could have just been cleverly designed towns.
@@ashleyhamman two of the stones were already there and those stones lines up perfectly to point at the sun either rising or setting on a solstice. People's most likely witnessed this insane natural formation and moved the rest of the rocks from 200 miles away
@@adrianclout761 honestly we underestimate human ingenuity
I am so excited you covered this!!!
Same here! I was planning on visiting it before Covid happened.
But he is really outdated... Half of what he was talking about is not true... Please find lecture of dr. lee clare, head of archeology works at gobekli tepi, named "Goblekli Tepe: A Summary of Past and Recent Results" at The Oriental Institute channel for newest informations available. It has been published 9.3.2020.
Check out Robert Sepehr's work
@@vladimircharvat7331 I agree and the fact that he aligned with the quackademics ass hole academics that still don't believe this is possible with the evidence in their face.
@@chikato7106 Work? yes, he makes a good money on his books. but it has nothing to do with science...
Gobekli Tepe was absolutely not the dawn of civilization, but indeed the continuation of an older civilization
I would go one step further and say it was the restarting and the handing down of knowledge from the old civilization to hunter gatherers.
stay at your playstation Pal..🧐 u should let the scientists do their job
@@sekipkoc4856 I don't have a gaming console
@@sekipkoc4856 And you feel entitled to be such a cunt why?
Lol no I doubt it.
Building quality digress over the course of 1800 years. Holy cow. That's interesting.
The fall of the ice age was violent and sudden. We didn't start then, we started over then.
I think it was the end of the prologue and the beginning of the first chapter.
@@andrewmorris483 there certainly is a lot of evidence of an advanced civ well before any mainstream academic approach
It does seem to me that something akin to an egyptian, possibly roman level of civilization likely existed 10,000 years ago or more. Sea level change alone could of slowly eroded a civilization, viruses/bacteria could of decimated populations, as could of war - you only need to look at the dark ages - perhaps they were the second 'dark age'.
@@JohnnyWednesday It's believed among alternate ancient historians that Egyptian and Roman civ's were inherited from a much more advanced people.
@@absolutelynoone7171 If there was any verifiable evidence (not YT videos with yellow captions), it'd be mainstream science, as mainstream science is evidence based.
'Tis said it is the brewing of beer that first inspired man to form permanent settlements ... not agriculture ... makes perfect sense to me ...
....a lot of beer is made with grains......the two aren't mutually exclusive
I'll drink to that................
Can't have beer without a pub!
Watch the documentary How Beer Saved Civilization, think that's the name. Explains the idea that beer saved lives and hence allowed lives to live and progress our past civilizations.
So you're saying Gobekli Tepe was a brewery?
I think that hypothesis needs to be researched; down the pub........
Great job Fact Boi
Thank you my dude.
If the most sophisticated construction found was the oldest, and dates back 13,000 years, how many millennia do you think it took those ancient peoples to master that building skill? It took thousands of years to completely forget the technique, may have take that long or much longer to develop the process. Where are the examples of this civilization PERFECTING this technique over time? They did not just START at Gobekli Tepe, that seems to be the pinnacle of their stonework and civilization. Wait until we find their earlier buildings. This just keeps pushing the "Dawn of Civilization" back by thousands of years. And we have no idea what we haven't found yet. Peoples from areas like the Yellow River Valley, the Indus River Valley, Aboriginal Australia and New Zealand, the original builders of Machu Pichu, even some parts of North America, show true antiquity in their cultural origins. I have the feeling 13,000 years ago may not be nearly far enough back to find the real origins of civilization in human culture.
Well said 👏.
It's is indeed Crazy.. well humanity has been around for 200,000 years based on human remains, the total amount of history lost is a magnitude we could never imagine.. How many times have we restarted Human civilization
That doesn't even cover the stuff deliberately destroyed by various fundamentlists
Our sum total of the Roman and Greek written corpus is ...
5%
@@darthclone7 Ah were you there to authenticate that
@@Blazerghost dude what stfu you’re the type of guy to actually believe history you’re taught in school
Never underestimate the impact that can be made my one enthusiastic German.
lol
Bruh 😂😂
cant help but to think of Jurgen Klopp when i read this
Yeah, but don't forget that the most famous German wasn't German. He was Austrian.
Great Story Thanks 👍
Great video..😊
It's all part of a continuum. They will find even older, slightly less complicated stuff eventually, and on and on. People then were just as smart as we are today.
Actually they must have been considerably smarter, because this was happening at the end of a 'Population Bottleneck' or so we're told. So they wandered around hunter gathering and just happened to bump into 500 or so folks to give 'em a hand? Out of a population as low as 10,000 to 30, 000 world-wide??? These 2 narratives don't fit together in any fashion.
@@GetOuttaTheJohnBoy Perhaps our estimates are made by taking into account only the findings on current landmass. Perhaps human population could had been much larger and situated on old sea shores (more steady supply of food, trade) now submerged after continental ice sheets melted and seas risen. The Inuits have been living in vicinity of sea, so would had past humans of Ice Age had. And what about past humans in lower latitudes? What would limit their numbers? Was ice covering the Equator?
@@salec7592 Well, actually ....the estimates are based on a fairly solid science called DNA/RNA mapping. As far as the Inuit you mention, they have been in Arctic climes a mere 4,000 years with a majority of the population arriving around 1050 CE, less than a thousand years ago. Data has been interpreted differently by different folks but all agree there was some kind of bottleneck, however.....consensus does not make them correct.
Or older and more complicated... Before the ice age
Already did, Boncuklu Tarla.
I’ve been there 2 years ago it had an amazing athmosphere! It’s is so hard to grasp the fact that those tall pillars standing there is at least 12.000 years old and was long been burried under soil, but yet there they were! Also you must check the museum before the entrance for more context and the little 10 minute long installation there really helps with the experience. They are still digging around the area there were a bigger field about 500 meters away. I can’t wait to visit there again and learn more about that place it was truely magical!
Can tourist walk trough it now, or is it still fenced off ?
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@@spiritualanarchist8162 Can I go with my boyfriend ??
@@smokeymcpot69 Sure. Why not ? Bring the whole family !
I was there december with my wife to be in a month, i was blown away n totally forgot my gf was with me haha
Very professional i vote for the theory of Graham Hancock supporting the younger dryas and that it was an astronomical site
A theory: the constant building, burying and restarting wasn’t due to design flaws, but fear. Whatever they were building caused terror in the neighboring peoples, and they killed the builders and buried the site. Only for the descendants or relatives of the builders to return to the site and restart construction. This could also explain how the building techniques grow worse over time, as the most advanced of the culture were purged early and their understudies or apprentices begin construction again.
2:40 wow, that sure was a busy & productive “four centuries”!
crazy!
Maybe even four millennia?
I'm glad someone pointed that out, it's the kind of error that discredits the content for me personally
I'll venture to give you a simple explanation for what it was used for: it was the site of Burning Man - 10,000 BC.
you can always assume any large group of people in history will behave more or less like any other, including modern humans today.
so, yeah for sure they drank "spiced" beer and yelled at the sky.
@@Kalleosini the most interesting question about Gobekli Tepe is exactly how did those ancient hunter gatherer/foragers manage to support a social system enoughly advanced as to put that whole thing in place . Hunter gatherer/forager societies of today , such as those of some Papua New Guinea hill tribes have indeed shown signs of the amount of societal and hierarchical organisation that would be needed in order to construct a site of Gobekli Tepe's magnitude and complexity , yet , none of them ever built anything more advanced than a few , impressive but relatively temporary , wooden towers . Judging by the population of those tribes , it seems that Gobekli's ancient residents , must've been at least twice as numerous as they are , which can mean either two things 1) Gobekli's nature was some kind of Heaven on Earth type of place , with almost unlimited access to food , water and everything else needed for those who built it to abandon their mere survival schemes and take time off their lives in order to built that whole thing up 2) they practised a form of foraging so successful that led to them reaching amounts of wealth similar to those of agriculture , a practise that would only appear on Earth , ~5000 years after their deaths . I think the answer lies in Religion ... we all know how far can humans go for that
@@Kalleosini Sounds like a good new years plan. Count me in?
architectural antiquitech bud..
I’m going to give you a thumbs up Blevins tough you dissed Delaware!
that is now undeniable verifyable facts
I was about to write a comment completely unrelated to Jojo nor even related to anime but...
11:35 JOSEPH JOESTAR? WHAT?
Wow, I never expected for them to make a Jojo Reference....oh I realized...Pillar Men.
EDIT: 13:40 PILLAR MEN????
DUDE STOP, MY JJBA REFERENCE DETECTOR IS TINGLING
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Jojo references aside, that German archaelogist' discovery really changed our timeline of history and made us modern humans even more puzzled of our ancient origins.
literally same
OH MY GOD!
Came here to say this. Goddamn Simon! Give us more!
Also Joesph is the best JOJO
Awaken, my masters!
Randall Carlson has done some incredible research regarding this site.
The JRE episodes with Carlson and Hancock are among my absolute favourites.
@@dvkevin same here I can relisten to them every week.
Yes! The work he done in the Western United States and badlands regions of the states(Utah, Dakota’s, etc.) was absolutely fascinating.
@@dontworryaboutit1996 yes!
I have to disagree.
It’s not the Dawn of civilization - it is only the latest in archaeological finds-there are hundreds of civilizations that go back further and further - but the total extinction and complete destruction of cataclysms over millions of years wiped away any trace of them. Once in a while we get lucky and dig one up and we call that “the Dawn of civilization”
Amazing video
The Boy with the Blaze seems to be slowly seeping into the rest of Simon's channels and I'm on board for it! 😃
Keen eye my friend
I was waiting for the "ba da bum-bum tssssss" after the Sirius-ly line...still waiting LOL
that's because simon is the david attenborough of youtube commentary. anything this man narrates is gold. Started with biographics and worked my way down to mega projects and business blaze.
I was thinking the same thing lol
You see it!! 🙌🏿
The chances of being killed by a duck are low, but never zero!
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Just ask Elmer Fudd.
*Ominous quacking*
LMAO had to pause to comment because the JJBA reference was so unexpected. Man now I wanna go watch it again
Thanks Joe
The boi covers something I love. I am going to watch this at least a dozen times.
The fact that you mentioned that as time passed the skills of the workforce or engineering devolved really reminds me of Machu Pichu where the most remarkable parts of it are the oldest whereas the most modern is essentially piles of rocks
its crazy hey
Same with the indus valley civilisation
They too devolved
I guess there was an intentional dumbing down of the masses whenever they achieved something great
Illuminati has been working hard since day one
It seems to speak to a subject matter expert as it compares to a recent introduction, almost like one group was teaching and others were attempting to replicate
@@Healinghonies Or perhaps the skills weren’t passed down/failed to be learned.
When the human comfort level rises to the top, laziness occurs ...corners are cut... ... Same thing is happening now ..a collapse is long due.
Look at Native American clans/totems and the animals that represented them. It's not hard to imagine that this was a similar system. When many clans gathered together (or perhaps just the hunters from different clans for certain ceremonies), the animals represented each group. Look at the carvings and you know Fox is meeting here, Bear over there, etc. Of course you're also invoking the spirit of the animal with the carving.
brilliant theory!
I just had a LOVELY weekend in Delaware...
Few people dare to address the huge elephant in the room. A people that builds a monument like this, isn’t a hunter gatherer people. All they really know for sure is that there was a hunter gatherer tribe in the region at the time.
Thank you, Klaus Schmidt, for your work.
Who are you to make this claim? Why can't a protofederation of hunter gatherer tribes come together for shared worship?
@@geordiejones5618 because it suggests logistical and cooperative humans in mass , which is unlikely for Hunter gathers to achieve since that kind of lifestyle is nomad in nature .
Plato said that Atlantis was swallowed by cataclysm during this time of 10k BC. Many ancient civilizations around the world depict advanced groups of people arriving by boat around this time. An influx of astrology worshippers capable of stone architecture and agriculture makes perfect sense to me.
@tritone11 100% agree with you.
Especially since the oldest parts show the highest level of knowledge and sophistication which would clearly point to remnants of a more advanced culture transferring knowledge that was slowly lost or diluted.
I think it's an ancient hunter gatherer trade site. Every year they meet up for a big festival, exchange goods and carve their stories.
A huge annual market of sorts, I think so too.
This would be supported by the discovery of the smaller versions of Gobelki Tepe nearby in South Turkey.
The animals on the Pillars, like early advertisement, representative of the function of the place.
@@ChristmasLore nope it was a full blown settlement. German Institute of archeology posted a video with new info. They found residential buildings, tools, water cisterns, water canals to lead the rain down one hillside etc. Also, it was not buried by people, landslide happened which most likely brought animal bones with it. So a huge feast in the temple where they threw all the bones theory was incorrect.
what freaks me out the most is the stone handbag caving , its carved into the stones of so many cultures and we have no idea what it represents
all over the world...very strange
I think the assyrian ones I've seen were buckets, or at least I heard archeologists interpret them as buckets, the assyrians tell us they were buckets, but as far as other cultures using similar symbols I don't know, gobekli tepe is supposed to date before metal or even pottery (i think) so what would they have made a bucket out of anyway, perhaps it was just a sun on the horizon or something
Exceptionally exciting site
"Humanity's first great construction project" - yeah, somehow I still doubt that. I don't think we have a clue just how old the things under our feet are, and how long we've been around.
@cornskid An ignorant individual referring to someone else as stupid. Right here I can see our de-evolution in progress. My question is, how much longer will the current human civilization survive and how many civilizations (possibly more advanced ) came before us.
@cornskid To be fair, though, those looking keep finding progressively older examples of concrete. Plenty of at Giza and before Giza. The hard part is realising it is concrete, but they've got to the point where analysis is a real possibility.
We already know Göbekli Tepe is not the oldest. Boncuklu Tarla was dated to be at least few hundred years older. Karahan Tepe is at least contemporary to GT if not slightly older.
@@thenewkhan4781 im sure that you are right it's a huge site takes years to build so these peoples ancestors had to have least lived in other places first
@@tonedumbharry what do you refer to as concrete what we consider concrete today or do you refer to mortar
Concrete or cement as we know it was first used by the Romans mortar in many forms has been used since time of building began
From simple mud manure straw mixtures to lime mixes and many other types
The fact that you put a JJBA reference in the makes this just perfect xD
Try this, when Noah landed on the mount of salvation (mt. Ararat )and the anunnakis returned to earth from their safe zone to meet up with him, they the anunnakis decided it was time their creation man was to be assisted in developing there on cities with the anunnakis help Gobekli tepe was among the first and many of the stone figurines were of the family of Noah, if you didn't Know this now you do!
Things like this don’t spring up at the dawn of civilization. This is the culmination of millennia of knowledge development. So how far do we go back?
Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis. We're just scratching the surface of the full history of human civilization.
What, aliens? Or Conan the barbarian hyborian age style prehistoric civilizations? Bring proof buddy, Gobleki is not true civilization. Maybe there where some genuine prehistoric attempts at civilization, obliterated by climate change, but surely nothing as fantastic as what fills your pseudoscientific head.
@@scavenger4704 ???
They didn't mention ANY of that, it doesn't even seem like they implied it
They just said that THEY think there might be older civilizations, just a fun thing to think about
No need to be rude!
@@scavenger4704 The ability to create megalithic structures is a learned ability that does not come about quickly. If the first generation of people who created Gobekli Tepe created the largest and most ornate megaliths as we've seen, then their abilities came from well before. You don't go from hunter/gatherer to megalith in one generation. That's not how it works.
As for the rest of the tripe you typed out, I have no clue what the hell you are talking about. Stop having two sided arguments in your head. Btw Gobekli Tepe is true civilization as it can only come about from a group of people working together to make the place, maintain it, and feed each other, so go be an asshole somewhere else.
@@scavenger4704 Are you high?
Graham Hancock
Simon, at 2:50 you said, "Packed four centuries", you meant "Four Millennia"-Very easy to do when discussing the incredible timespans of Gobekli Tepe.
I’m not entirely sure this isn’t some kind of in video joke. I pointed out the opposite in the video of Zoroaster where he stated he could have been born as early as 20 millennia ago…putting him somewhere in the Neolithic.
I noticed that too.
Didn’t he say “it’s been packed for centuries”
@@tee8839 No, he says: "it's been a packed four centuries...", so I'm sure he just misspoke. :)
he needs to redo the whole video now
Saving for.later... very interesting site.
This helps put me to sleep…interesting until i fall asleep
You said "it took 4 centuries" when you were mentioning historical milestones from the great pyramids to modern times. Spoilers, it was 4 millennia.
And than add six more of those, and we are there. Crazy...
Humans been Humaning a long time
Magicians of the gods.
@@chikato7106 hamlet's mill
I caught that as well!
My brain did a double-take when he said that.
Yea I noticed the 4 centuries comment too, completely threw me off 😂
Graham Hancock was the first I ever heard talk about this!
ages ago
Grahan Hancock is full of crap
@@deltabluesdavidraye alright buddy you show me a move believable explanation and I’ll believe he’s full of crap.
And now, you need to look for real information about the site, there are a few real lectures available.
@@ChristmasLore never said Graham was the only thing I’ve ever listened to about this but he was the first. I’d never heard anyone talk about it before him and after I went to learn all I could from other places as well
The Great Pyramid is being disputed, using geo-climatic investigation, especially the wet weathering around the Sphinx, that area is now speculated to be nearer to 14-15k years ago. Eypgt does not want to acknowledge that because they would lose the clout of being the ancient sites builders.
The most elegant answer on the decline of the maker's abilities: the oldest, best carvings were done by people who were far more advanced and had faced some kind of civilization ending catastrophe; a diaspora that leads to them encountering less advanced people.
It's great to see that one of humanities first greatest achievements was a JoJo's reference.
Nice to see the presenter is cultured.
Randall Carlson is a charlatan who stolen everything from my book "Why and How the Ice Age Ended & the True History of the White Race". Everything he talks about is from my book.
I’m not so cultured so who/what is JoJo. Attempted to web search but that in itself is a great story of starting on one path and ending on a different continent.
@@kaptainkaos1202 JoJo's Bizarre Adventure is a manga/anime series that centers around various main characters named JoJo who are blood descendants of other prior main characters also named JoJo. Each MC finds him/herself in a variety of bizarre situations one of which involves so called "pillar-men". The uncultured may see JoJo as directly referencing pop culture, but the truly cultured among us know that the real world merely attempts to reference JoJo. In layman's terms, JoJo is the one true meme, with some arguing that even Christianity is a JoJo's reference. If you're thinking of checking it out, I must warn you: it can be ve͟r͟y͟ graphic.
I woooshed it didn't I?
"And before you ask, YES THIS IS A JOJO REFERENCE!"
NANI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
STANDO POWWAAAAA!
Göbekli Tepe is a school. Pillar 43 is simply a map of the Levant. Part of Jordan, all of Lebanon, most of Syria, and part of Turkey. The Vulture is the Golan Heights and the Scorpion is the mountains to the right of the Golan Heights that are shaped like a scorpion. You can see it on your phone. The dog at the bottom left of the pillar is the mountains to the right of the Dead Sea. They are totally shaped like a dog with a square face and legs. The top of the pillar depicts the Mt Lebanon Mountains (the square “belt” is the Beqaa Valley) then up to the Mediterranean (the three curling waves are a tsunami tossing man, large beast, small beast down the coast…the flood) with the very top of the pillar depicting the mountains of Cyprus in the distance. The bird on the right is the Euphrates River (the Euphrates has long straight “legs”), with the square tail end of the fish being Harran.
It is a physical map. Each animal or shape is a separate mountain/water structure: food, shelter, fresh water. They are all positioned and oriented correctly which is why a good map is easy to prove. We still navigate around the same earthly structures today. Göbekli Tepe is a school and this was a map of their country in a classroom. Honestly, I had an Indiana Jones moment about a month ago and wanted to share it with the world. It is a map: no astrology, astronomy, religion, or aliens I promise. Note: Göbekli Tepe means “Potbelly Hill” and that’s how it would have be drawn on a map…like the Jordan River being drawn as a snake on the pillar!
You got it brother! The truth comes when the ether is high 🔌
The hillsides don’t lie
@@iamdanielrobles Thanks for the vote of confidence Hurtful! I figured my discovery would be welcomed with open arms! So far the Professor’s and journalists who have responded to me are a little closed minded at seeing the obvious. Well…I have something special for the 5th video of the series: I found a cartoon pillar of Egypt! Stay tuned! 😁
It doesn't indicate the dawn of civilization. Just the furthest back so far acknowledged. Human civilization may be two hundred thousand years old, as anatomically modern humans are at least that old.
Graham Hancock has entered chat.
I was thinking exactly that.
Everyone needs to read Magicians of the God's. Also check out Robert Sepehr.
Start with his jre appearances
Graham 'I don't know therefore Atlantis' Hancock
@@chikato7106 damn right!!
Simon: “What else may be buried under the sand, long forgotten”?
Me: your jumper collection. Duh-dum doosh.
LMAO 😂😂
Say what you will about Simon - but if you touch the beard or the dome? you shall know a reckoning!
Ba-da-dum-dum -tshhh
@@JohnnyWednesday bearded man 🙂🙂
*ALLEGEDLY* .....!!!!
I love saying “gobekli tepe,” I say it every chance I get.
How far away is this from the flanks of the mountains of state?
They did not just wake up and decide to erect huge carved stones, they had to learn how to cut and move stones, they had to develop their artistic style and the iconography of the carvings. Somewhere we will find their practice sites where they developed their skills and artistic abilities that lead to building Gobekli Tepe.
Exactly. How long where they there learning and perfecting their own style before starting on the projects that still remain. They where in that area for a long time before attempting to build these sites.
I have a feeling this place was used as a school to help educate young humans. Then maybe evolved into something else.
If the hunting is good it’s not so hard to settle down.
Studies of still-existing hunter-gatherer societies show that they have a lot of leisure time.
There is an older site found called "Boncuklu Tarla", near Göbekli Tepe. I don't know if there is any English source on the Internet yet but you could search for it
Our past was magnificent and unbelievable and ended 13k years ago. This will come to light soon
I find it highly arrogant that modern civilisations think that we are at the leading edge of science and technology; that ancient civilisations being (much more) sophisticated than current times is an impossibility. I would like to think Life and history on earth is much more complex and non-linear than meets the eye. We need the humility to remain curious and learning, that we do not (and may never) understand the workings of life on earth and beyond, fully.
At 11:37: did Simon just make a... Jojo's Bizarre Adventure-reference?!?! amazing! This is the real Geographics,Simon is so amazing!
11:35 That JoJo reference was as unexpected as the Spanish Inquisition
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our cheif weapon is surprise...
@@animemaniacify now do that again...
Mudamudamudamuda
AWAKEN MY HUNTER-GATHERERS!
Fr had to pick up my phone (where I’m logged in to yt) to comment on it, can’t escape Jojo’s anywhere now smh
11:35 "pillar men" "Joseph Joestar" 😂
One thing you didn't point out is that mainstream archeology does not want to accept the age of this find.
It is so ancient that your ancient Egypt grandmother's grandmother wasnt born yet
Did...did he just make a JoJo joke? Does he even know what it is or was it just off the script...I MUST KNOW 🤣🤣🤣
I was just wondering in my head if that was a Jo Jo reference and had to scroll down to se eif anyone 3lse said anything.
Definitely written into the script. Having him not get the reference makes it funnier
God...i really want him to get the joke though...its eating at me
A jojoke
He still refers to Anime as “ Mangas” so I think it may be a bit much to hope for....or we could flood his social media’s with JoJo references
In Peru and Colombia, the ancient buildings also carry that "the older the bigger and better" trace
Bad times create strong men.
Strong men create good times.
Good times create weak men.
Weak men create bad times.
Repeat.
You should do a video on the younger dryas impact theory
Another mysterious ancient site with an uninspiring name: Poverty Point in Louisiana. One of the oldest sites in North America. It would make for an interesting video! 1000 years or more older than Cahokia.
drewping2002 : In 1962, the federal government designated it a National Historic Landmark and in 2014 UNESCO named Poverty Point a World Heritage Site.
Even though it's a World Heritage site there are MANY places in North America that are far older and probably more deserving of the Simon Whistler treatment.
Check out Robert Sepehr
It's only from about 1500bc. That's not hugely ancient. It's just bronze Age, so pretty standard ancient.
@@sophitsa79 that's a good 1000 years older than the more famous Cahokia, and that's pretty ancient when it comes to North America