Not sure what video half of these people in the comments watched, but they're pretty funny saying "an experienced captain would trim the bow up" , or "when did the storm hit" , or "the "captain" created panic." This guy did hold his composure. He didn't tell anyone to shut up with the 21 questions. He communicated with the C.G. to let them know their location. He zigged, then zagged. You can tell he's trimmed because the bow is pointed towards the sky. Finally, you all are watching this video. That means they made it. I've seen plenty of coastguard vessel assists, and have heard the rotor chop of the orange bird over the bay plenty of times in my life just on fair weather chop. This guy did just fine.
He held his composure and did fine but put everyone in danger by waiting until last minute to head in while knowing the storm was coming. This could have turned ugly quickly but luckily it didn't. When on the lake you can see storms coming in a hell of a lot farther away then on land. Better planning and they wouldn't have been in this situation. Grew up fishing Lake Erie for about 20 years with my dad. Been caught in our fair share of storms but never on the water. We always made it back to the harbor before the storms hit then went back out when storm passed.
As a former 50 Ton Captain I have been in some scary rough seas, even had to navigate breaking 18- 20 footers in a 38 foot slow boat with a bad transmission. Didn't know if we were going to see the next day. This guy is cracking me up, having a nice conversation with the coastguard. Some people make drama out of nothing...This is nothing!
I have no experiance boating or sailing really but I watch the first part of this and went ot the comments and people were acting like this was a narrow miss at certain death and that the captin should not be on the water ever again. I was thinking how bad is it really? Judging from the ocean stuff I had watched on YT in seemed like nothing. Guess people like drama.
Well, it’s not nothing when you have little to no experience… I don’t think having a friendly chat with the coast guard was even close to their mistakes and poor judgment made. I don’t even have any experience on water, but first thing I noticed is these guys d*cking around when you can see then storm literally a mile away (probably more couldn’t see on video) and instead they’re taking their sweet a** time getting out of there like they couldn’t be bothered. Even with my experience I would’ve taken it closer to the shoreline and then stay with the waves if I couldn’t out run it. Honestly would’ve taken a different line but probably would’ve stayed a similar course in thick of it. Obviously you don’t want to get that boat sideways going into waves. The only thing I really have a problem with is their… I’m too cool to get the lead outta my a** even though you know something’s coming. I mean it’s easy to armchair QB this even though I have zero captain stars… but the bottom line is they made it back. Also… they need to learn how to use a radio VHF/Ham whatever
I think that this storm hitting them was their "come to Jesus" relation that if you go offshore, you better know what the hell you are doing. Even on a Great Lake.
Everybody's a critic here. Fer Cripes Sake leave these dudes with some self respect. They posted a video of a day on the water; not maintaining that they made it through the storm of the century. If you're lucky enough to have spent time on the water then chances are good that you sailed through some heavy weather at some point. These boys did fine enough and shared their story with the rest of us.
No they deserve it they're in a piece of crap boat they have no respect they have no experience I'll bet nobody took Power Squadron courses this is why you hear Marblehead Coast Guard Marblehead Coast Guard
And really if one is experianced a bit...she a bit of a blow and the boys did fine. TOO BAD THE CaMERA NEVER SHOWS THE DEAL>>>>LIVE IS SCARIER. Those waves are likely ten ft.
Sounds like a lot of in-experience going on. Waves get a lot bigger then that on erie cupcake. Read the waves, trim the bow up so the hull takes the beating and keep the power on. Your not even in remote trouble yet but you all sound panicked.
Never call Erie a cupcake! Until you have 12 footers in short frequency pounding a 30 foot boat you haven't seen a fierce lake such as any of the Great Lakes.
30' seas at about 40 seconds apart... North Pacific, spent 3 days in that storm on a 27 foot sailboat by myself. It wasn't a nice ride that's for sure. Pushed me about 50 miles north of my intended course.
Yeah this weather really wasnt bad, these guys probably shouldn't have been out there in the first place. Missing key equipment and experience. Would have hated to see what it looked like if it got real sketchy, probably wouldn't have.
@@TheDNAlevelC That boat is far more capable then half of the boats I see out there on a regular basis. The captain did a good job, the rest just got a bit worked up is all from not being used to being in those situations.
I grew up on Lake Erie I have been in bigger waves in a smaller boat with my father. Waves definitely can whip up quick on Erie but from my experience you can see the storms coming and there are a lot of signs of a front coming in, from where I am in the Buffalo area you can see the storms coming down the lake. Glad to see you made it in OK
The boat is doing fine. The seas look like 3' to 5' with winds gusting to 30 mph. The boat's pilot is following all safety protocols. Too bad he doesn't have radar.
It's doing fine because they're in a following sea if they were taking those on the quarter value or straight on that boat would break apart because it's a piece of junk
You guys are being pretty rough on them. I agree the size of those waves was really no big deal but if you have never experienced this it is very scary the first time.This is how you get the experience of knowing the things you should have done. I know Erie is known as a small boat killer and this wasn't really bad at all but I do applaud their decision to head in since they didn't know how bad it could get and sure couldn't handle a really rough lake.
Honestly, I think those boys were more afraid of the captain's inexperience, than those waves. I get why they felt better to at least give their coordinates.
True. He should have had them cut line to head in earlier if he knew what those storms could be like. Also, not a “mayday” situation. Maybe a “pan pan” if you’re not used to the storms.
jack benko Yep been there,done that don't wish to do it again anytime soon either. Ran before a storm in a friend's 16ft aluminum boat about 30 years ago. The storm came out of nowhere practically. Waves went from 2-4 feet to 12-15 feet in a mater of minutes. I thank God he a powerful motor on that boat. We made to shore and flipped the boat over for a shelter from the hail that came.
I had that exact same boat. Thompson is a good fishing boat. Me and three buddies were 12 miles out in the gulf at around 11pm when a serious storm popped up with about 8 foot rollers. Using a spotlight it took a few hours to get back into the Caloosahatchee river to seek shelter. I never played with the throttles as much as he did. It’s a good way to get swamped from the back end.
We were caught in similar conditions in a fifteen foot boat last Friday. Lake Erie storms are no joke! It went from zero to nuts in about five minutes!
I've been caught 2 times on Erie in blow up storms, my 17 ft deep v always got me back to the dock, last time I knew it was bad when a wave threw my boat 90 degrees to the right, we went from flat to 5 ft white caps in a matter of 5 minutes. I had a guy with me that can't swim, he was terrified, I just stayed as calm as possible kept my on on the target and fought that lake all the way to the channel; I bet I drank a gallon of lake water that day from the spray.
@@aaronhumphries2100 he told me that was the last time he would ever go on Erie, I pulled up the pics of the smallmouth we caught that day and he has a change o heart.
The biggest mistake I see immediately is a storm comes, waves start to roll in and everyone asked do you have any life jackets on board. In the middle of the Great Lakes. That's a fine time to be asking such a question don't ya think? Anyway I'm glad they made it to port safety and hopefully learned a very valuable lesson as well.
I always ask where safety stuff is when I get on. Got into the habit from my early boating being with people who’d automatically do show-and-tell with everything at the dock.
They did make some mistakes like not even knowing if they had life vests before leaving the dock, that Thompson could handle three times the waves they were in
This happened to me only we actually capsized. we were 4.5 miles out from the "Castle". I grabbed a cell phone and called 911 as I was jumping in the water. Fire department came and rescued us. They looked like Angeles. Scariest day of my life.
A lot of people who have been in worse weather, that boat is quite capable of handling much heavier conditions. There was no need to panic equipped as he was.
I got a question, I don't know shit about boats but from your comment this is a sissy storm ? I mean did you think it was necessary for them to handle the situation as they did , or do you think they overreacted? I mean what would you done differently? I'm not trying to be funny I just don't know how boats operate in weather like this
lake erie is one of the worlds most dangerous lakes . very unpredictable because its so shallow . the wind can control it easy . smooth as glass to 6 ft waves in minutes . national geographic had a show on about lake erie . its at the top of the list for ships and boats sunk on the bottom of lake erie . this guy is stressed out and he should be lake erie is no joke . i should know i have lived here all my life . 63 year
I Win it might be shallow in a lot of the lake, but, i just seen their depth finder, and it said 58 foot of water where they are on the lake. I’m not saying that it’s not shallow in most of the lake, but where they are it must be deep.
One of the biggest problems with boating Lake Erie, especially when you'll be out 8 to 10 miles, is trying to appease fishermen who have driven long distances and won't accept the decision to "not go out because the weather is going to get bad." Been there, done that, won't do it again.
number one rule of boating .. there is ONE captain on the boat.. if you dont have faith in him .. dont leave the dock.. its when everybody starts thinking they are the captain is when trouble happens ..
“Don’t forget to hit the bilge…..” hey shut up and let the captain do his job. That guy would never be on my boat. “Do you have a radio on this thing……?” WTF…..what captain would not have a vhf marine radio on his vessel? I carry 3, all with dsc, mob and gps.
I'm getting a kick reading all the comments from a bunch of armchair sailors, crowing about how big THEIR waves were. A mess of "look at me" chest beaters.
Yes, rightfully. These guys are in deep crap because of the captain. Many boaters, posters, could've handled this far better, he's got a big boat, good tech, he risked lives not being trained.
Well to be honest for them they were scared bad attitudes got them into mess. First part you. Clearly have 20 plus mile vis. Saw it building for hours prob. Next radio has weather Channels use it. Don't call cg for weather info. He had GPS so yeah don't tell cg 60 ft of water west of chestnut, use proper terminology when working radios. Lat and log.. also for me being a so called arm chair sailor rule of thumb is to traverse in waves its about 1/3 length of vessel. So his 24 ft should be able to course 8 ft. So technically the face u looking at is almost 16 ft. From trough to crest.. just saying...
I was out with two 13 year olds in eastern Lake Ontario in about the same waves in an open 16 footer with a 25 horse. We were okay but the cold and wetness was a hardship. People panic too easily. A big boat like this guy's can take way more than this.
The Captain really did a great job, as big as the waves were he wasn't slapping the boat off of them, he just had a inexperienced crew more than anything.
Yeah got radio just don't know how to leave it on weather band to hear up to min forcasts... didn't even turn it on until they called cg for weather report lol
I don't know about this captain; I have been in smaller boats with bigger waves and never got too worried about it. Those were small waves; I would have been going a lot faster in my 16 feet. Although I understand that he has the responsibility of keeping his guests safe on his boat, and great job for that Captain. You did the right thing.
So, no one GPS'ed the Home Port and Marked it. The first thing that I do on any unfamiliar Lake that I am on. Not cool to be on any big lake like this without the proper equipment. No Compass even? Even basic Compass reading skills should bring a person back in to see land. One of the Lakes that I fish on is only 50 miles long. But navigation can get tough at dusk and not uncommon to have 4 to 5 foot rollers in on you in a flash if you're not watching the weather. Not checking the Weather Updates during the day either I would presume. As soon as I see Weather changing, my boat is aimed toward Home and finish out the day a little closer. If he is obviously inexperienced, there was no need for him to take the boat and his passengers that far away from shore.
People don't realize how quickly lake Erie can turn into a monster... Before a storm its a sheet of glass but when a storm moves in, minutes latter its a churned up animal. The problem with the lake is its shallowness and the chop. Its a short chop and it literally beats the hell out of you and the vessel your in.
What's your location? One guy starts to give a Lat/Long coordinates but the Captain cuts him off and announces "We are West of Walnut in 60 Foot of water". WTF? If he has a Captains license, it should be revoked...
I was thinking the same thing. What the hell does "60 foot of water" have to do with anything? If it's 8 feet of water or 80 feet, you're still swimming. LOL
How far out were they? I never jump on board a boat with a guy that puts others at risk. If for some reason that motor quit, they be in a heap of shit!🍻🎣
When that storm is rolling in , it should have been all hands on deck reeling in those rods, and securing the boat for weather. I thought it seemed alittle lacks their in the beginning. Mother nature while chew u up and shit you out with 0 warning. Just saying
So funny I made a comment about the stupid windshield wiper that could hardly do its job and on the passenger side there is no windshield wiper that boat has to be a Bayliner or some low-end Sportcraft who in their right mind would buy that and then take it out in that weather and risk the lives of other people it's a floating house trailer
Years ago we caught a charter out of Fairport Harbor. Captain said wind em up fellas storm coming in, we didn’t see anything and started to complain we were miles out before we got half way in the storm caught us. I have been around big water since I was a child, I never in my life then or since that scared me like that
did u guys know the camera was on. lol looks like somebody just holding a phone all over the place. we def know where the windshield meets the rubber it does not leek.
" When does the weather start getting rough Skipper ? " Gilligan asked " When Hurricane Ginger starts blowing Little Buddy ! " Replied the Skipper These guys werent in any real danger . But caution is good . So great learning experience . He should have trimmed and throttled up so the bow could do its job and eat through that chop with a steady throttle position for better speed and faster steering response
I think the captain was doing a fine job, there were no real close calls or panic worthy moments. And I commend the captain for not throwing the know-it-all who was constantly being an annoying distraction to the captain asking stupid question after stupid question, I would have strapped the guy to a lifejacket and thrown him overboard wishing him good luck in piloting his new lifejacket vessel back to shore. It's always the insecure panickers that take all the fun out of a fun situation. Sit back , smoke a joint and relax and enjoy the ride and let the captain do his job. Word to the captain, leave that guy at home next time. Just sayin
So, what is that redish/pink orb outside the left triangle window? is NOT the "rec" light because it stays current with the boat. IM SERIOUS CHECK IT OUT! THERE IS SOMTHING FOLLOWING THEM!
so, the captain is supposed to call the Coast Guard, in an emergency. Not just any one on board, without a clue where you are, and say hi were on a 24' boat trying to come in? Or is that normal on Lake Erie?
Derecho 1969, July 4th. Saw flat calm on one side, hell on the other. Over 4000 trees down, marinas wrecked, boats sunk. Worst I've seen. Worst I've been on was 70mph winds and rain so hard you couldn't see half the boat from the cockpit of a 37' Irwin. But, it blew over fast. Spent 18 years on Lake Erie in Cleveland and know if a storm is coming, DON't leave the dock. Sometimes it cannot be helped. Once one station said 2-3 footers and 10 knot wind. Next station said 3-5 footers with 15 knot winds. Next station upped it to 7-8 footer with 20 knot winds. Last one we knew was the truth...Dick Goddard said "Up to 10'ers with 28-30 knot winds`. He nailed it. That storm hit Labor Day weekend and went from calm seas from southern winds to 4 hours later 28mph with 10 footers. We made it in though. Was not planning on the starter taking aa crap though, but it made for an interesting CG tow.
Looks like a nice walleye chop to me, we'd just be heading out in a 20' Lund or a 21' rinker captiva open bow speed boat 🫠😉.. it can be scary tho not knowing what she's gonna turn into and being far away. Should have definitely had a plan, this don't look too well planned.
Thanks for the vid guys. I'm thinking of mooring a boat on the lake and from all I've read I'm sure it can get rougher on Erie. I grew up sailing on 24 to 40 footers in the Caribbean and this looks like a pretty normal day out to me, a little rain that's all. Maybe I don't have as much as I thought to be concerned about.
Sailboats weighted keel prevent capsizing a lot better, plus ocean waves are not as steep usually. On boats like these the whole hull flys out of the water, the pounding will scare the bejeepers out of you.
@@richcherwalk6349it’s the pounding on the water that gets to you. It’s like the boat is going to snap in half. I’ve been in this situation in a 18 footer and I didn’t think we would make it back. The captain has zero experience in this situation and I was stressed. They made fun of me, but they won’t go near the water now if there’s a cloud in the sky. Erie has an attitude and if you don’t have the right boat it’s brutal. If we were in this boat, I wouldn’t have worried at all. But an 18 foot open bow StarCraft is not a good time
@@Dr.Ballsonya I would never go on any of the great lakes in a 18 ft open bow, there are plenty of days I won't go on lake st clair in my 19footer, and I stick to the bays 90% of the time on good days. On lake st clair I've buried the bow a couple times and was lucky I made it home. An 18ft open bow is made for small inland lakes.
60 foot waves? Where? That pop can woulda been listing and rolling way harder than that.. the one guy was like the wave is chasing us.. I about died. Umm no the water doesn't play tag fella..
Erie is no joke...I've been on glass and purple skies show up out of nowhere and close the distance on you really fast with 5-8 ft rollers...we have literally had multiple storms on the lake and continued to fish by trying to read the storms and Dodge in between....this lake can go back to glass just as fast as it turns up
Sounds nice, but this isn’t the ocean or a small lake. A lot of the Great Lakes are short, choppy waves from multiple directions. You deploy that philosophy, and you will be barrel rolling that sum bitch.
I would have just anchored up! storm is a storm. captain running a Thompson should know it can handle rough seas, that's a nice day out there us 150miles offshore.
That's a fact. Those first 6-8 minutes were critical. They just lolly-gagged and didn't even get the gear in. I would have cut their lines and told them to sit down and buckle up.
I know Amish guys that go 6-7 miles out on Lake Erie in 16 ft aluminum boats. They literally risk their lives for a cooler full of walleyes and sure enough every year I hear about a boat capsized and Coast Guard has to rescue them
+brettfavreify WHAT situation ? The ONLY threat to life in THAT "situaion" WAS A BARBIE CAPTAIN OUT OF HIS DEPTH. Good Lord; 3 footers, THREE ! ! ! HE'S A CAPTAIN ? AND IF MY GRANNY HAD WHEELS SHE'D BE A WAGON.
That was not rough water. That boat could have headed to shore at the right speed.But then again, I think the Captain was a little inexperienced and was creating panic.If he was to scared to head into the waves he could have tacked his way to shore.They were in no real danger. To a pilot boat Captain that is good wrather.
It's not the water it's the storm and swirling currents. Due to the Volume of the greatlakes especially erie storms can swallow a boat up faster than can be managed. I know I am a regular out of Lorain Ohio
Pilot boats are built for extreme weather. These fiber-craft bathtubs are not. The Captain should have taken boating courses in how to operate the radio, how to relay his position, and how to read the weather before it overtakes him. Pure stupidity on this vessel Captains part. (the owner/operator is the Captain according to the law). Here is a link to the US Coast Guard Auxiliary. They put on lots of safety and training courses for the weekend boater. www.cgaux.org/boatinged/
To a sailboat skipper, that looks like a wonderful day to be out surfing. I hope this didn't scare the guy away from heavy seas boat operations. It's far easier to go with the ocean than it is to go against it. You find the back of a wave and you ride it home... if you're beating to windward, then take the sea on the quarters and drive over the crest of the wave.. Practice.. and GET YOUR LIFE JACKET ON IF YOU"RE NERVOUS!!!! Skippers and Captains always know it's far easier to put your life vest on before you get in the water... Safety first is the very first rule of boating for a reason. I suggest this driver seek a USCG instructor for a safe boating lesson. I know about safety. 5 years on the Pacific Ocean on a 27 foot sailboat.. The sea always wins!
Any lake that can become so fierce, it sunk a 700-foot ship (Edmund Fitzgerald) so fast the crew didn't even have time to call "mayday" should be respected like the ocean. That so-called captain had no business taking anyone out on the Great Lakes with that his inexperience.
My dad had a 25 foot Thompson with a flybridge, we fish off the coast of Gloucester mass, we got caught in a storm bad once, I wish my dad had the safety knowledge of today back then, was probably 2010. We never sent any radio contact to coast guard or anything like that. We made it 43 miles in. The next weekend he sold the Thompson and bought a Grady white lol. Never again did we go out in weather that was less than perfect.
No doubt - that captain created a lot of verbal panic from the outset. The waves were maybe 3 to 4 feet - no swells...I would have put some tunes on, contacted coast guard on storm status (can't believe he didn't have radar) and had a few brews....This looked like a disaster waiting to happen for no reason.
I wonder why they didn't stay put or idle into the waves and wait it out? I'd be terrified surfing the waves like that. One wave over the transom and its over!
I been out on erie in much worse than that, tho it's hard to tell with only rain drops on windshield being filmed. Honestly we didn't know if we could get back in break wall, blows up fast out there perch fishing in middle of lake like was done. Some of the best fishing i've ever experienced. Really great out there, dangerous too.
Glad yall made it home. We didn't live far but called bait shop an asked about weather and it could change before we made it to the boat ramp. Think yall talking about walnut beach maybe of ashtabula oh. We usually went out conneaut. Best time of my life
Erie is hard to navigate in big waves because you can’t ride the trough because of the rogue waves you get because it’s so shallow. It’s like dropping a rock in a bucket there’s no rhyme or reason to the waves you can be doing alright then bam a wave that shouldn’t be there nails you, it’s nerve racking definitely white knuckling your way through it!!!!
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Not sure what video half of these people in the comments watched, but they're pretty funny saying "an experienced captain would trim the bow up" , or "when did the storm hit" , or "the "captain" created panic." This guy did hold his composure. He didn't tell anyone to shut up with the 21 questions. He communicated with the C.G. to let them know their location. He zigged, then zagged. You can tell he's trimmed because the bow is pointed towards the sky. Finally, you all are watching this video. That means they made it. I've seen plenty of coastguard vessel assists, and have heard the rotor chop of the orange bird over the bay plenty of times in my life just on fair weather chop. This guy did just fine.
Seriously? I've done bigger seas in a 16' Starcraft open bow.
Yup radio contact with coast guard is the absolute best thing to do. This guy did great. People don’t understand the power of that water.
No slamming smooth ride up and down...I'd say he did just fine
This looks like a normal day in the pacific northwest. Looks like he's going down sea and the boat.....well she's doing perfect! This isn't that bad
He held his composure and did fine but put everyone in danger by waiting until last minute to head in while knowing the storm was coming. This could have turned ugly quickly but luckily it didn't. When on the lake you can see storms coming in a hell of a lot farther away then on land. Better planning and they wouldn't have been in this situation. Grew up fishing Lake Erie for about 20 years with my dad. Been caught in our fair share of storms but never on the water. We always made it back to the harbor before the storms hit then went back out when storm passed.
As a former 50 Ton Captain I have been in some scary rough seas, even had to navigate breaking 18- 20 footers in a 38 foot slow boat with a bad transmission. Didn't know if we were going to see the next day. This guy is cracking me up, having a nice conversation with the coastguard. Some people make drama out of nothing...This is nothing!
I have no experiance boating or sailing really but I watch the first part of this and went ot the comments and people were acting like this was a narrow miss at certain death and that the captin should not be on the water ever again. I was thinking how bad is it really? Judging from the ocean stuff I had watched on YT in seemed like nothing. Guess people like drama.
@@GhostOfBillCooper and some people become ghosts😉
Well, it’s not nothing when you have little to no experience… I don’t think having a friendly chat with the coast guard was even close to their mistakes and poor judgment made. I don’t even have any experience on water, but first thing I noticed is these guys d*cking around when you can see then storm literally a mile away (probably more couldn’t see on video) and instead they’re taking their sweet a** time getting out of there like they couldn’t be bothered. Even with my experience I would’ve taken it closer to the shoreline and then stay with the waves if I couldn’t out run it. Honestly would’ve taken a different line but probably would’ve stayed a similar course in thick of it. Obviously you don’t want to get that boat sideways going into waves. The only thing I really have a problem with is their… I’m too cool to get the lead outta my a** even though you know something’s coming. I mean it’s easy to armchair QB this even though I have zero captain stars… but the bottom line is they made it back. Also… they need to learn how to use a radio VHF/Ham whatever
Sure you did
She had a nice voice. I would've at least gotten her number.
I am a retired mariner, I sure hope these fellas took this to heart.
I think that this storm hitting them was their "come to Jesus" relation that if you go offshore, you better know what the hell you are doing. Even on a Great Lake.
Everybody's a critic here. Fer Cripes Sake leave these dudes with some self respect. They posted a video of a day on the water; not maintaining that they made it through the storm of the century. If you're lucky enough to have spent time on the water then chances are good that you sailed through some heavy weather at some point. These boys did fine enough and shared their story with the rest of us.
No they deserve it they're in a piece of crap boat they have no respect they have no experience I'll bet nobody took Power Squadron courses this is why you hear Marblehead Coast Guard Marblehead Coast Guard
And really if one is experianced a bit...she a bit of a blow and the boys did fine. TOO BAD THE CaMERA NEVER SHOWS THE DEAL>>>>LIVE IS SCARIER. Those waves are likely ten ft.
and they were fortunate enough to have quite a bit of extra tonnage on-board for stability.
Sounds like a lot of in-experience going on. Waves get a lot bigger then that on erie cupcake. Read the waves, trim the bow up so the hull takes the beating and keep the power on. Your not even in remote trouble yet but you all sound panicked.
Never call Erie a cupcake! Until you have 12 footers in short frequency pounding a 30 foot boat you haven't seen a fierce lake such as any of the Great Lakes.
he was referring to the captain.
30' seas at about 40 seconds apart... North Pacific, spent 3 days in that storm on a 27 foot sailboat by myself. It wasn't a nice ride that's for sure. Pushed me about 50 miles north of my intended course.
Yeah this weather really wasnt bad, these guys probably shouldn't have been out there in the first place. Missing key equipment and experience. Would have hated to see what it looked like if it got real sketchy, probably wouldn't have.
Moron sitting on life vest.
a lot of nice footage of the ceiling and floor. LOL!!!
Terrible camera work - this is about a storm with rough water - never shows what is in front or on the sides
How about u try and get quality footage while on a small craft in a storm on lake erie ta ass lol
@@TheDNAlevelC That boat is far more capable then half of the boats I see out there on a regular basis. The captain did a good job, the rest just got a bit worked up is all from not being used to being in those situations.
@@TheDNAlevelC if it’s not a good quality video why upload it I just know u had bad grades in school
That’s what we call a squall. I grew up on Lake Erie this isn’t a Bad Storm but you never take changes on the Lake.
I grew up on Lake Erie I have been in bigger waves in a smaller boat with my father. Waves definitely can whip up quick on Erie but from my experience you can see the storms coming and there are a lot of signs of a front coming in, from where I am in the Buffalo area you can see the storms coming down the lake. Glad to see you made it in OK
Were these guys first timers on Erie lol, I' d hate to see them when it gets bad.
No kidding lol. In experienced captain for sure .
I think they were. You don't go out if the weather forecast is bad and his boats engine was all over the rev counter.
@@TheSlickpt I think the captain did fine aside from not telling them to to chill out. He was focused on what he was doing as he should be however.
lol we were out there in a 14 foot aluminum fishing boat/10hp Merc with it like that. Just gotta keep mapping out every wave.
The boat is doing fine. The seas look like 3' to 5' with winds gusting to 30 mph. The boat's pilot is following all safety protocols. Too bad he doesn't have radar.
It's doing fine because they're in a following sea if they were taking those on the quarter value or straight on that boat would break apart because it's a piece of junk
You guys are being pretty rough on them. I agree the size of those waves was really no big deal but if you have never experienced this it is very scary the first time.This is how you get the experience of knowing the things you should have done. I know Erie is known as a small boat killer and this wasn't really bad at all but I do applaud their decision to head in since they didn't know how bad it could get and sure couldn't handle a really rough lake.
Honestly, I think those boys were more afraid of the captain's inexperience, than those waves. I get why they felt better to at least give their coordinates.
True. He should have had them cut line to head in earlier if he knew what those storms could be like. Also, not a “mayday” situation. Maybe a “pan pan” if you’re not used to the storms.
I've dealt with bigger waves and higher winds in my bathtub after having burritos from 7/11.
lol!!!
Nice videos of the cabin ceiling....
Agreed. I've been through a whole lot worse on Lake Erie in a smaller boat. That lake can kick a lot worse than this.
jack benko
Yep been there,done that don't wish to do it again anytime soon either. Ran before a storm in a friend's 16ft aluminum boat about 30 years ago. The storm came out of nowhere practically. Waves went from 2-4 feet to 12-15 feet in a mater of minutes. I thank God he a powerful motor on that boat. We made to shore and flipped the boat over for a shelter from the hail that came.
Kiddo VR - LMAO!
I had that exact same boat. Thompson is a good fishing boat. Me and three buddies were 12 miles out in the gulf at around 11pm when a serious storm popped up with about 8 foot rollers. Using a spotlight it took a few hours to get back into the Caloosahatchee river to seek shelter. I never played with the throttles as much as he did. It’s a good way to get swamped from the back end.
We were caught in similar conditions in a fifteen foot boat last Friday. Lake Erie storms are no joke! It went from zero to nuts in about five minutes!
Nuts is 2 foot waves in a 15 ft boat.
Nuts is going on lk erie in a 15 foot boat at all
I've been caught 2 times on Erie in blow up storms, my 17 ft deep v always got me back to the dock, last time I knew it was bad when a wave threw my boat 90 degrees to the right, we went from flat to 5 ft white caps in a matter of 5 minutes. I had a guy with me that can't swim, he was terrified, I just stayed as calm as possible kept my on on the target and fought that lake all the way to the channel; I bet I drank a gallon of lake water that day from the spray.
I'm glad you got him back ...my question is did he ever say he'd go out again?
Key thing is “deep vee”. Good choice on a Great Lake. I have an ‘87 deep vee boat. They’re made for this stuff.
@@aaronhumphries2100 he told me that was the last time he would ever go on Erie, I pulled up the pics of the smallmouth we caught that day and he has a change o heart.
The biggest mistake I see immediately is a storm comes, waves start to roll in and everyone asked do you have any life jackets on board. In the middle of the Great Lakes. That's a fine time to be asking such a question don't ya think? Anyway I'm glad they made it to port safety and hopefully learned a very valuable lesson as well.
If anything, they overreacted by calling the coast guard. The waves never even got big at all. They did nothing wrong and were completely fine.
I always ask where safety stuff is when I get on. Got into the habit from my early boating being with people who’d automatically do show-and-tell with everything at the dock.
@@SMMiles The Coast Guard generally prefers you contact them early than you wait too long.
@@SMMilesI've seen guys wet their pants in 40ft boats with 3 to4 foot seas.
They did make some mistakes like not even knowing if they had life vests before leaving the dock, that Thompson could handle three times the waves they were in
This happened to me only we actually capsized. we were 4.5 miles out from the "Castle". I grabbed a cell phone and called 911 as I was jumping in the water. Fire department came and rescued us. They looked like Angeles. Scariest day of my life.
A lot of seasoned armchair sailors on this thread.
A lot of people who have been in worse weather, that boat is quite capable of handling much heavier conditions. There was no need to panic equipped as he was.
@@heatmoon He doesnt even know where he is.
DAMN. STRAIGHT.
Lmao well you clearly missed the shit show in part 1. By the way. When does the storms start? Part 3?
Does the storm start on part 3?
Bwah Haaa Haa -LOL I know -right?
I was wondering the same thing !
😂
Hey man, it's raining.
I got a question, I don't know shit about boats but from your comment this is a sissy storm ? I mean did you think it was necessary for them to handle the situation as they did , or do you think they overreacted? I mean what would you done differently? I'm not trying to be funny I just don't know how boats operate in weather like this
The only danger i see is an inexperienced captain...
Real bright bunch one life vest for the only guy that will float without one.
lake erie is one of the worlds most dangerous lakes . very unpredictable because its so shallow . the wind can control it easy . smooth as glass to 6 ft waves in minutes . national geographic had a show on about lake erie . its at the top of the list for ships and boats sunk on the bottom of lake erie . this guy is stressed out and he should be lake erie is no joke . i should know i have lived here all my life . 63 year
I Win it might be shallow in a lot of the lake, but, i just seen their depth finder, and it said 58 foot of water where they are on the lake. I’m not saying that it’s not shallow in most of the lake, but where they are it must be deep.
I Win : You are absolutely spot on! “Lake Eyre is top of the list for ships and boats sunk at the bottom of Lake Eyre” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
U.S.A POWER 58’ is shallow for a Lake the size of Erie if they were on Huron they be in 600’ of water
I was on an 18 ft boat in a storm like this on Erie when i was young. Seeing my dad scared, sacred the crap out of me. We got thrown like toy.
I was out in 4 to 6 footers in an 18 foot Lyman, with my dad and brother. It was more nerve racking than scary.
One of the biggest problems with boating Lake Erie, especially when you'll be out 8 to 10 miles, is trying to appease fishermen who have driven long distances and won't accept the decision to "not go out because the weather is going to get bad." Been there, done that, won't do it again.
He's scared. Give him a break. Good for you for being cautious.
The captain could have skirted the storm to port had he AND crew stowed and secured gear and hatches in a timely fashion.
Thanks for sharing. We all get in a spot or two when we are out there and you guys handled it as well as most would.
But they IGNORED Weather and Boated into it!! Did You watch Pt.-1??
number one rule of boating .. there is ONE captain on the boat.. if you dont have faith in him .. dont leave the dock.. its when everybody starts thinking they are the captain is when trouble happens ..
“Don’t forget to hit the bilge…..” hey shut up and let the captain do his job. That guy would never be on my boat. “Do you have a radio on this thing……?” WTF…..what captain would not have a vhf marine radio on his vessel? I carry 3, all with dsc, mob and gps.
I'm getting a kick reading all the comments from a bunch of armchair sailors, crowing about how big THEIR waves were. A mess of "look at me" chest beaters.
Yes, rightfully. These guys are in deep crap because of the captain. Many boaters, posters, could've handled this far better, he's got a big boat, good tech, he risked lives not being trained.
Yep. That’s us!
Well to be honest for them they were scared bad attitudes got them into mess. First part you. Clearly have 20 plus mile vis. Saw it building for hours prob. Next radio has weather Channels use it. Don't call cg for weather info. He had GPS so yeah don't tell cg 60 ft of water west of chestnut, use proper terminology when working radios. Lat and log.. also for me being a so called arm chair sailor rule of thumb is to traverse in waves its about 1/3 length of vessel. So his 24 ft should be able to course 8 ft. So technically the face u looking at is almost 16 ft. From trough to crest.. just saying...
shit, that situation you just crack a beer and light up a smoke. enjoy the rush.
When the winds of November came early.
I was out with two 13 year olds in eastern Lake Ontario in about the same waves in an open 16 footer with a 25 horse. We were okay but the cold and wetness was a hardship. People panic too easily. A big boat like this guy's can take way more than this.
I now know what every inch of the ceiling of the boat looks like....never saw a wave
If you look closely you can faintly make out some waves in the reflection on the ceiling.
credit card captain at his best
The Captain really did a great job, as big as the waves were he wasn't slapping the boat off of them, he just had a inexperienced crew more than anything.
He was in a following sea, not headed into it!
One very anxious skipper, Shackleton wouldn’t be impressed 😂😂
That boat would'nt hold Shackeltons balls!!
got that planer board mast out there just incase there's lightning!....lol
You call that a storm? Man I go jogging in this weather all the time!
"Does this thing have a radio"? Great line and question.
either that man was drunk as hell or scared shitless he wasnt thinking straight
Yeah got radio just don't know how to leave it on weather band to hear up to min forcasts... didn't even turn it on until they called cg for weather report lol
I would have turned on some music right then and there to drown out their cries.
Captain has no business piloting that boat.
Ya I'd be scared to be in his boat
When exactly does the storm start?
I don't know about this captain; I have been in smaller boats with bigger waves and never got too worried about it. Those were small waves; I would have been going a lot faster in my 16 feet. Although I understand that he has the responsibility of keeping his guests safe on his boat, and great job for that Captain. You did the right thing.
So, no one GPS'ed the Home Port and Marked it. The first thing that I do on any unfamiliar Lake that I am on. Not cool to be on any big lake like this without the proper equipment. No Compass even? Even basic Compass reading skills should bring a person back in to see land. One of the Lakes that I fish on is only 50 miles long. But navigation can get tough at dusk and not uncommon to have 4 to 5 foot rollers in on you in a flash if you're not watching the weather. Not checking the Weather Updates during the day either I would presume. As soon as I see Weather changing, my boat is aimed toward Home and finish out the day a little closer. If he is obviously inexperienced, there was no need for him to take the boat and his passengers that far away from shore.
The real question is, "Did you catch anyfish?"
They said in the video that they did.
@@Trouble-Clef how many game warden
People don't realize how quickly lake Erie can turn into a monster... Before a storm its a sheet of glass but when a storm moves in, minutes latter its a churned up animal. The problem with the lake is its shallowness and the chop. Its a short chop and it literally beats the hell out of you and the vessel your in.
More of a visibility hazard if anything.
What's your location?
One guy starts to give a Lat/Long coordinates but the Captain cuts him off and announces "We are West of Walnut in 60 Foot of water". WTF? If he has a Captains license, it should be revoked...
I was thinking the same thing. What the hell does "60 foot of water" have to do with anything? If it's 8 feet of water or 80 feet, you're still swimming. LOL
Nothing ruins a day on the boat faster than a Storm!
How far out were they? I never jump on board a boat with a guy that puts others at risk. If for some reason that motor quit, they be in a heap of shit!🍻🎣
When that storm is rolling in , it should have been all hands on deck reeling in those rods, and securing the boat for weather.
I thought it seemed alittle lacks their in the beginning.
Mother nature while chew u up and shit you out with 0 warning. Just saying
They took almost 8 minutes to get going. At every point, realize they could've been there 8 minutes sooner. This isn't that bad.
I'm always amazed how stupid fishermen are. And I love that windshield wiper. Lmao
So funny I made a comment about the stupid windshield wiper that could hardly do its job and on the passenger side there is no windshield wiper that boat has to be a Bayliner or some low-end Sportcraft who in their right mind would buy that and then take it out in that weather and risk the lives of other people it's a floating house trailer
Years ago we caught a charter out of Fairport Harbor. Captain said wind em up fellas storm coming in, we didn’t see anything and started to complain we were miles out before we got half way in the storm caught us. I have been around big water since I was a child, I never in my life then or since that scared me like that
did u guys know the camera was on. lol looks like somebody just holding a phone all over the place. we def know where the windshield meets the rubber it does not leek.
there weren't any waves coming over the cabin. what were they worried about?
I was in a storm like that once and then we had to outrun a water spout . It was actually really cool to see we were coming from Canada Back to Erie
" When does the weather start getting rough Skipper ? "
Gilligan asked
" When Hurricane Ginger starts blowing Little Buddy ! "
Replied the Skipper
These guys werent in any real danger . But caution is good . So great learning experience . He should have trimmed and throttled up so the bow could do its job and eat through that chop with a steady throttle position for better speed and faster steering response
I do not see the big waves looks live flat seas at this time. what were the seas?
I think the captain was doing a fine job, there were no real close calls or panic worthy moments. And I commend the captain for not throwing the know-it-all who was constantly being an annoying distraction to the captain asking stupid question after stupid question, I would have strapped the guy to a lifejacket and thrown him overboard wishing him good luck in piloting his new lifejacket vessel back to shore. It's always the insecure panickers that take all the fun out of a fun situation. Sit back , smoke a joint and relax and enjoy the ride and let the captain do his job. Word to the captain, leave that guy at home next time. Just sayin
So, what is that redish/pink orb outside the left triangle window? is NOT the "rec" light because it stays current with the boat. IM SERIOUS CHECK IT OUT! THERE IS SOMTHING FOLLOWING THEM!
so, the captain is supposed to call the Coast Guard, in an emergency. Not just any one on board, without a clue where you are, and say hi were on a 24' boat trying to come in? Or is that normal on Lake Erie?
No navigation gps? Tells where you are and which way you are going and how much further you have to go.
Derecho 1969, July 4th. Saw flat calm on one side, hell on the other. Over 4000 trees down, marinas wrecked, boats sunk. Worst I've seen. Worst I've been on was 70mph winds and rain so hard you couldn't see half the boat from the cockpit of a 37' Irwin. But, it blew over fast. Spent 18 years on Lake Erie in Cleveland and know if a storm is coming, DON't leave the dock. Sometimes it cannot be helped. Once one station said 2-3 footers and 10 knot wind. Next station said 3-5 footers with 15 knot winds. Next station upped it to 7-8 footer with 20 knot winds. Last one we knew was the truth...Dick Goddard said "Up to 10'ers with 28-30 knot winds`. He nailed it. That storm hit Labor Day weekend and went from calm seas from southern winds to 4 hours later 28mph with 10 footers. We made it in though. Was not planning on the starter taking aa crap though, but it made for an interesting CG tow.
I have been in rougher water and higher waves on my 24-foot pontoon..why all the panic ???
Ya the size of the waves on your roof are crazy !
Holy crap !!!! 👀
This Captain ROCKS !!!
👍 That took some serious knowledge and skill !!! ❤
Just shows you why I don't use charters , they let any dang idiot with some money buy a boat and then call them self a skipper.
This is what happens when you don't respect the water.
Thats how country songs are made👍
@@AdamGbl95 craig morgan country song ,, lyrics - floatin trailer park.. good tune
Looks like a nice walleye chop to me, we'd just be heading out in a 20' Lund or a 21' rinker captiva open bow speed boat 🫠😉.. it can be scary tho not knowing what she's gonna turn into and being far away. Should have definitely had a plan, this don't look too well planned.
How drunk was the cameraman?
Nice view of the cabin ceiling.
Once ashore its easy to find a lakeside bar for beer and a stromboli...
\Its amazing how fast it went from calm to pretty rough conditions.....
Yeah the weather around here changes pretty quick
Thanks for the vid guys. I'm thinking of mooring a boat on the lake and from all I've read I'm sure it can get rougher on Erie. I grew up sailing on 24 to 40 footers in the Caribbean and this looks like a pretty normal day out to me, a little rain that's all. Maybe I don't have as much as I thought to be concerned about.
My dad experienced 8 footers
Sailboats weighted keel prevent capsizing a lot better, plus ocean waves are not as steep usually. On boats like these the whole hull flys out of the water, the pounding will scare the bejeepers out of you.
@@richcherwalk6349it’s the pounding on the water that gets to you. It’s like the boat is going to snap in half. I’ve been in this situation in a 18 footer and I didn’t think we would make it back. The captain has zero experience in this situation and I was stressed. They made fun of me, but they won’t go near the water now if there’s a cloud in the sky.
Erie has an attitude and if you don’t have the right boat it’s brutal.
If we were in this boat, I wouldn’t have worried at all. But an 18 foot open bow StarCraft is not a good time
@@Dr.Ballsonya I would never go on any of the great lakes in a 18 ft open bow, there are plenty of days I won't go on lake st clair in my 19footer, and I stick to the bays 90% of the time on good days. On lake st clair I've buried the bow a couple times and was lucky I made it home. An 18ft open bow is made for small inland lakes.
@@richcherwalk6349 definitely agree with you. Lake Erie has a lot of sketchy ships on it
When did they hit the storm? There's another video?
use RainX on your windshield...
And on inside to lol he going slower then the wind blowing on from behind
60 foot waves? Where? That pop can woulda been listing and rolling way harder than that.. the one guy was like the wave is chasing us.. I about died. Umm no the water doesn't play tag fella..
60 fy deep water. Said in 60 feet of water
How many captains on this boat?
Erie is no joke...I've been on glass and purple skies show up out of nowhere and close the distance on you really fast with 5-8 ft rollers...we have literally had multiple storms on the lake and continued to fish by trying to read the storms and Dodge in between....this lake can go back to glass just as fast as it turns up
The captain should have just trimmed up the bow so the hull would break through the waves and give that throttle hell you would have been fine
Sounds nice, but this isn’t the ocean or a small lake. A lot of the Great Lakes are short, choppy waves from multiple directions. You deploy that philosophy, and you will be barrel rolling that sum bitch.
Whats worse than hitting a 10 ft wave head on..... not hitting the 10 ft wave head on...
Too slow or too fast and you bury the bow
Good ol captain checked the weather lol. Glad y'all made it back safe. Erie is a beast
What was the wind speed during the worse condition, you remember?
Lived in. Leveland and use to watch the storms walk.across they would get that lake crazy
I would have just anchored up! storm is a storm. captain running a Thompson should know it can handle rough seas, that's a nice day out there us 150miles offshore.
he told the crew to gear up and they screwed around i hope they got a good scare
That's a fact. Those first 6-8 minutes were critical. They just lolly-gagged and didn't even get the gear in. I would have cut their lines and told them to sit down and buckle up.
The Capt is scared. He isn’t in command.
I know Amish guys that go 6-7 miles out on Lake Erie in 16 ft aluminum boats. They literally risk their lives for a cooler full of walleyes and sure enough every year I hear about a boat capsized and Coast Guard has to rescue them
So maybe I missed it but did they make it to shore
Not sure you folks should be on a boat ever.
You guys did a pretty good job of managing the situation.
+brettfavreify WHAT situation ?
The ONLY threat to life in THAT "situaion" WAS A BARBIE CAPTAIN OUT OF HIS DEPTH.
Good Lord;
3 footers,
THREE ! ! !
HE'S A CAPTAIN ?
AND IF MY GRANNY HAD WHEELS SHE'D BE A WAGON.
Its like youve never been on a boat in mean seas AND ever operated a camera. That was ROUGH. Glad you made it
That was not rough water. That boat could have headed to shore at the right speed.But then again, I think the Captain was a little inexperienced and was creating panic.If he was to scared to head into the waves he could have tacked his way to shore.They were in no real danger. To a pilot boat Captain that is good wrather.
It's not the water it's the storm and swirling currents. Due to the Volume of the greatlakes especially erie storms can swallow a boat up faster than can be managed. I know I am a regular out of Lorain Ohio
i agree...they are just US pussies....that looks like perfect salmon fishin on the west coast of Canada.
Pilot boats are built for extreme weather. These fiber-craft bathtubs are not. The Captain should have taken boating courses in how to operate the radio, how to relay his position, and how to read the weather before it overtakes him. Pure stupidity on this vessel Captains part. (the owner/operator is the Captain according to the law). Here is a link to the US Coast Guard Auxiliary. They put on lots of safety and training courses for the weekend boater. www.cgaux.org/boatinged/
says the Canadian pussy .
To a sailboat skipper, that looks like a wonderful day to be out surfing. I hope this didn't scare the guy away from heavy seas boat operations. It's far easier to go with the ocean than it is to go against it. You find the back of a wave and you ride it home... if you're beating to windward, then take the sea on the quarters and drive over the crest of the wave.. Practice.. and GET YOUR LIFE JACKET ON IF YOU"RE NERVOUS!!!! Skippers and Captains always know it's far easier to put your life vest on before you get in the water... Safety first is the very first rule of boating for a reason. I suggest this driver seek a USCG instructor for a safe boating lesson. I know about safety. 5 years on the Pacific Ocean on a 27 foot sailboat.. The sea always wins!
Captain sold the boat the next day!!
Now that's a good one
Any lake that can become so fierce, it sunk a 700-foot ship (Edmund Fitzgerald) so fast the crew didn't even have time to call "mayday" should be respected like the ocean. That so-called captain had no business taking anyone out on the Great Lakes with that his inexperience.
when is the storm going to happen?
My dad had a 25 foot Thompson with a flybridge, we fish off the coast of Gloucester mass, we got caught in a storm bad once, I wish my dad had the safety knowledge of today back then, was probably 2010. We never sent any radio contact to coast guard or anything like that. We made it 43 miles in. The next weekend he sold the Thompson and bought a Grady white lol. Never again did we go out in weather that was less than perfect.
No doubt - that captain created a lot of verbal panic from the outset. The waves were maybe 3 to 4 feet - no swells...I would have put some tunes on, contacted coast guard on storm status (can't believe he didn't have radar) and had a few brews....This looked like a disaster waiting to happen for no reason.
Greg Bennett ur a idiot those waves were at least 6-10 feet I was out today on 4 foot waves😂😂
You should rename this video "the ceiling of a fishing boat and water droplets on a windshield"
I wonder why they didn't stay put or idle into the waves and wait it out? I'd be terrified surfing the waves like that. One wave over the transom and its over!
I been out on erie in much worse than that, tho it's hard to tell with only rain drops on windshield being filmed. Honestly we didn't know if we could get back in break wall, blows up fast out there perch fishing in middle of lake like was done. Some of the best fishing i've ever experienced. Really great out there, dangerous too.
Glad yall made it home. We didn't live far but called bait shop an asked about weather and it could change before we made it to the boat ramp. Think yall talking about walnut beach maybe of ashtabula oh. We usually went out conneaut. Best time of my life
Erie is hard to navigate in big waves because you can’t ride the trough because of the rogue waves you get because it’s so shallow. It’s like dropping a rock in a bucket there’s no rhyme or reason to the waves you can be doing alright then bam a wave that shouldn’t be there nails you, it’s nerve racking definitely white knuckling your way through it!!!!