There's no bottom to the garbage heap of conspiracy theories. Collecting and believing the has become a perverse pastime for some, like @user-kv5fv2nv7o, aka "Kevin Poole."
The worst Conspiracy? Is that Oswald was alone. And that is at the core of the Warren Commission cover-up. A JFK Researcher only has to rely on the ballistics, medical evidence and witness testimony to bolster their argument. But the WR Apologist? He has to ignore reams of evidence and make Oswald the ONLY SHOOTER. Once you realize that the purpose of the Warren Report is to establish NO CONSPIRACY and not because the evidence shows it but because they are there to PROTECT LBJ. It is next to impossible because there are so many wounds and so many bullets. Even Thomlinson was useless in the WR because he stated before he was sworn in that #399 WAS NOT THE BULLET HE FOUND. His was pointed. And both FBI agents who took possession of it stated the same. Imagine not being able to ask Tomlinson the only question that matters, "Is #399 the bullet you found?" They knew Thomlinson could have brought down the entire cover-up.
We need for Hollywood to do a lone-gunman anti-dote to Oliver Stone's conspiracy-oriented film. The true story would also make compelling viewing: the evolution of Oswald's life and the presidential trip which ended up passing through Dealey Plaza right in front of Oswald's place of work.
@@peterfraser9070 And how a second lone nut deprived us forever of knowing what Oswald might have finally admitted if only he had lived long enough to stand trial. Lone nut #2 bears more responsibility than any other individual person for spawning this myriad and intractable quagmire of theories.
@@Caeruleo It must be crazy relying on a theory that is dependent upon 2 lone nutters, and a magic bullet that does circus tricks, when in truth, every time more evidence appears, it just confirms what we always knew.That Oswald was a Patsy. sorry pal, we know that there were more bullets found at Parkland than were fired from the Oswald Rifle. We know that the Limo and JFK's Body were hijacked to specifically coverup any Forensic Evidence that would have easily proven a Conspiracy in Dallas. Posner is a good liar and he knows that Oswald WAS NEVER in Mexico CIty. But he can't help himself in gently supporting the CIA fantasy that Oswald was a part of a Cuban or Russian plot.
Me, 8 yrs. old at time of assassination. Big believer in a conspiracy being behind the whole affair. Began to have doubts when nothing ever seemed to break the case open. Got sucked into a conspiracy theory but got myself out of it. Don't know if the purveyors of conspiracy theories are fakers or true believers but it doesn't matter. People like Posner deserve a medal (and our gratitude). Gerald Posner: thank you!
I was 6 y/o, and heard so much about the assassination growing up. Got briefly into reading books by people in the conspiracy racket. Read the Posner book, and that ended it for me. Feel bad for people who’ve wasted their whole lives going down rabbit holes, and finding nothing.
Right around 28:30, attorney/author/journalist Posner said that he and his wife "made a hand written card file index of the Warren Commission. There was no index to the Warren Commission". Maybe someone can clarify. I thought indexing work had already been done with regard to the Warren Commission Report by a Sylvia Meagher back in the 1960's. She did this pretty much all by herself as a private citizen. While the commission released quite a bunch of work in their 26 volumes of the WCR, they had not indexed it. Meagher's indexing work made future research into the JFK assassination much easier. It's too bad the federal government had not done this indexing work. The Library of Congress is after all located in Washington D.C. Their team of librarians, archivists, historians, scholars, catalogers and indexers could have done this work in no time.
Im currently reading the book. The author is very meticulous about the facts. The detail about Oswald before the assassination is impressive. Im not done reading it yet.
Try reading a book by someone who knew LHO probably better than anyone on earth except possibly his mother! Me and Lee by Judyth Vary Baker. If you want to know the real life LHO, it's a must read!!! He was innocent!!!
@@HugoMaus ah conspiracy freaks. I don't engage conspiracy freaks because they've lost their ability to use logic and reason. Oliver Stone is their priest, even though Stone himself admitted he used artistic license and combined many conspiracy theories in one character.
The one problem I have is the shot that hits Connelly. Connelly himself believed it was a separate shot. But Mr.Posner does a great job putting events together. And giving readers some insight of Oswald's early life..
It doesn't matter if Connally himself thought it was a separate shot; that's not reliable at all. The various evidence is what proves it was the same bullet. Connally said himself in interviews he knew he wasn't hit by the 1st shot and upon turning around - which wasn't much as we see in the Z Film - didn't see Kennedy and admittedly therefore didn't know if Kennedy had been hit by the 1st shot. Then we see the limo emerge from behind the sign and both men react at the same time to getting hit. The various physical evidence confirms the same bullet hit both.
@@peterfraser9070 Connally could not have turned round to look at JFK with those injuries. The trajectory is all wrong, it goes against the laws of Physics. I think Connally's testimony is correct, he was hit several seconds after the throat shot as he was turning back L and then keeled over to his L onto his wife.
@michaelhoffman176 "Let's weigh the magic bullet...": The original claim invented by Mark Lane was that what was left in Connally weighed more than what was lost from the bullet - not that it weighed more than a new bullet. You probably just made that up yourself or did one of your 3rd, 4th, 5th etc-hand versions of Lane's lie tell you it weighed more than a new bullet?
@michaelhoffman176 It sounds like you aren't aware of the condition of the Single Bullet - even though that's been out there for 60 years, including the photos. You also aren't even aware of how stupid your "planted bullet" theory is. Explain it, lol.
@@peterfraser9070 So Connally having received those injuries turns completely back to have a good look at JFK, seemingly saying something to Mrs K. And the bullet goes through two/three lots of bone and into Connally's thigh, sustaining little damage. That physical evidence confirms separate bullets. 1 bullet missed, hit pavement, lets say 1 magic bullet (which is incorrect), 1 bullet still in Connally's leg, 1 bullet for head shot (frangible) = 4 bullets, so still means WC incorrect even if sbt applies, which it doesn't.
Show me the proof with no doubt that Oswald had that gun in that window at that time. It doesn’t exist but you can try. There is Evidence that a bullet doesn’t do 90 degree turns. There is no proof that Oswald even owned that gun. You Warren committee believing nut cases are not willing to admit you are wrong.
@michaelhoffman176 Everything you posted is factually incorrect. Why don’t you do better research and not be a part of the herd mentality. ? You didn’t post one accurate fact
“In 2010, Posner was the chief investigative reporter at The Daily Beast. Following the revelation that a number of Posner's stories for the Beast contained portions plagiarized from articles in other publications, Posner resigned from the Beast." (Wikipedia)
@halcolombo6380 For the sake of argument, let's indulge your foolish libel and say that Posner's a plagiarist. But can you claim what he plagiarized is something in error or something that's correct? The latter is clearly the case. Thus, it makes no difference if Posner (assuming he's a copier) copies the truth or any part thereof, which is that Oswald did act alone. Every rational & reasonable person should want to copy that.
There is nothing in this book that had not been published before. Oswald's childhood, life, etc was published in Oswald by de Lillo. And all the other info was in other books and documentaries. This book came out to put an end to that period of 1991- 1994 when every book and film slated the Warren report. An effort to shut up the conspirators.
For other reasons, apparently. Do you think the CIA killed Kennedy, actually compiled records about this crime of theirs, then continued to so needlessly KEEP those records all these decades??
The government claims there are still matters that need to be kept secret. An example of that sort of thing was that one of the more recent releases of documents contained information about the CIA's surveillance of the USSR and Cuban embassies in Mexico City. That's something they understandably did not want publicized during the Cold War.
@@SirTrollerDerbyeah lots of Soviet defectors with KGB wives make secret trips to the Russian embassy in Mexico City to secretly meet their KGB bosses... No chance of conspiracy there, right? 😂 Pretty common vacation for the average American during the cold war, obviously
When there is any kind of executive or congressional investigation, after the report is published, the investigative documents are sent to the national archives. It’s the national archives policy to seal the investigative documents for 75 years because that is an average lifespan of an individual. On top of intelligence and security matters, they don’t want any people who may have helped or gave information or testimony to be put in danger of retaliation. They want people to know they will be safe if they help these types of investigations.
"A mess as a human being?" This was true of Allen Dullas and J. Edgar Hoover, also, not to mention the man who took Office after Kennedy's assassination...
Hello, I have seen your comments in this interview and with all due respect, I do not agree; With the simple fact that Jack Ruby killed Lee Harvey Oswald two days later, this confirms that there is a conspiracy, or do you believe Jack Ruby's statement that "I killed him to save Mrs. Kennedy pain."
Enjoyed the talk, thanks! I read Case Closed twice after reading mainly conspiracy literature. I'm convinced now: three shots, one gunman, no evidence of conspiracy.
I read it as well,i also viewed a PBS nova episode that shows that the magic bullet did do just what was said,it was a solid documentary that focused on the ballistics. Quite convincing.
@@kevinkosmeder6769 I watched that documentary as well. Fortunately the number of conspiracy believers is dwindling thanks to books like this and the internet.
Dallas police chief Jesses Curry stated: "I'm not sure about it. No one has ever been able to put him (Oswald) in the Texas School Book Depository with a rifle in his hand." Curry reasoned in another interview: "I think there's a possibility that one [shot] could have come from in front [of the limousine].
A witness, I believe his name was Howard Brennan, saw Oswald with the rifle in the window. Later that day, viewing a lineup, he hedged, saying that he thought it was Oswald but didn't want to say definitely. Subsequently, he admitted that he could identify Oswald in the lineup but hesitated to say so because as a witness he feared he might be in some danger. Brennan was farsighted and had excellent vision at the time. Conspiracy theorists make much of the claim that Brennan had poor vision. But that was the case only later when his vision was damaged in a sand blasting accident. The last place anyone at the Book Depository saw Oswald before the shooting was on the sixth floor. During interrogation, Oswald claimed he was on the first floor eating lunch. But others who were there testified that Oswald wasn't.
There are multiple witnesses from the street who saw shots coming from the TSB. There were 3 workers on the 5th floor of the TSB looking out the window. There was construction going on at the TSB and there was a hole btwn the 5th and 6th floors. All these workers clearly heard 3 shots; no more, no less. These were deafening sounds, like made by a cherry bomb. No mistaking the number fired. Then heard someone running away. Everyone remaining in the building accounted for EXCEPT for LHO. The gun found had LHO fingerprints on it and the bullets found in the limo matched the rifle found on the floor. This all ties LHO to the gun and the gun to JFK. Everything else is blue smoke and mirrors. Just garbage.
Yes, that's right, and it is much healthier for these CT people to deal in reality. Besides, the truth is more interesting; the way nutty Oswald did it and the way all these nutty theories sprang up and took on a life of their own.
@@peterfraser9070 The fact is that Reclaiming History has been successfully debunked by James DiEugenio. The reality is that you are categorically wrong, as there is huge amounts of evidence that Oswald did not act alone - you lone-nut theory people are total zealots that assume you are much cleverer that those serious researchers that have spent decades doing their work, You are fooled by people like Posner, Myers, Buglisiosi that twist, bend and hide evidence to suit their narrative and fools like you fall for it.
Bugliosi's book is literally exhaustive and it's coverage of the conspiracy theories is simply exhausting & unnecessary. The Posner book does have errors but it's really sufficient unless your willing and prepared to wade through 1,700 pages (plus a CD-ROM)
Two things convinced me Oswald was the assassin. The Zapruder Film, in which you can clearly see that JFK and the governor react to being hit by a bullet at almost exactly the same time and going to Dealey Plaza and seeing how small the area actually is and that it wasn't that tough of a shot
Except the head shot obviously came from the right front. hjat kind of moron would actually believe a Neuromuscular Reaction could overcome a bullet flying at 2500-3000 feet per second?
How does that convince you that oswald did it? It could been anybody (malcolm Wallace). Oswald's fingerprints were not on the boxes. His fingerprints were not on the gun until after his death. Too much evidence to say Oswald didn't do it
@@ryanwilliams6206 You've been reading the wrong books. The only assassination books with any credibility are "Case Closed" by Gerald Posner, " A Cruel and Shocking Act" by Philip Shenon, "Reclaiming History" by Vincent Bugliosi, and only slightly less recommended "Oswald's Tale" by Norman Mailer. All the rest are full of lies and theories based on little to no evidence. And they all pin the unproven conspiracy on different people. LBJ, or the CIA, or Castro, or USSR, or Castro AND the USSR, or Army Intelligence. The list goes on and on, but the only real, verifiable evidence of a shooter is Oswald and Oswald alone. Some nut in Dealey Plaza tried to tell me there were six shooters and the head shot was fired from a sewer drain in the curb. LOL
So how does that make LHO the killer? Connally himself said he was struck by a different bullet and the Zap film clearly shows he was right! What film are you looking at? I have an igloo in Florida for sale. Interested?
Another person who does not know what he is talking about. No wonder lone nutters exist because you have NO CLUE what you are talking about. I cannot explain what? Example please. You are saying it was Oswald's weapon. I am saying the evidence was faked. So lets consider it. 1) According to you Oswald bought a rifle that could be traced to him when he had no reason to do so; a rifle he intended to use on a human being when he could have bought one over the counter that could not be traced to him. I say the rifle was assigned to Oswald to frame him. 2) The money order has a signature. You say its Oswald's. I say signatures can be faked. The gov't fakes things all the time. 3) The time of purchase on the bill of sale aligns with when Oswald was at work according to his own time card! Do you have an explanation for this? How could he be in 2 places at once? 4) The scope on the rifle in the backyard pics is on the top. But in the pictures of the rifle on Nov 22, 1963 being taken from the TSBD it shows them on the side. These are clearly 2 different rifles which again suggests a screwed up frame up job . Your explanation is what? 5) The money order did not go through the bank routing system, meaning IT WAS NEVER CASHED. I say that is because it was faked. What is your explanation? 6) The rifle according to the document was purchased in unreasonable lightening quick speed for 1963. I say that is because the document is faked and the fakers made an oversight. What is your explanation? 7) The serial number on the money order dates from late 1963 to early 1964 (Which is when the frame up job of the document was taking place) Yet this order was supposed to have been circulated in March 1963. I say this was another clue that the entire document was faked and the fakers made yet another crucial error. They should have at least located an unused March 1963 order. They did not. What is your explanation? Again, you like that idiot Gerald Posner is lacking a lot of key information and you have failed to do any serious research. Your research came from a cereal box. "Oswald owned rifle. Me cave man" Me believe government." The evidence is evidence of a conspiracy and frame up. Oswald's prints on the rifle, put there on Nov 25th after he was fingerprinted at the morgue, shell casings which link to a Carcano which did not need to be there, a dubious money order with dubious links to Oswald which did not need to exist but does. The rifle planted at the crime scene which could have been disassembled and snuck out, shell casings at the Tippit crime scene that did not need to be there, a dropped wallet found at the crime scene that did not need to be there. Name me one other crime case where the perp left his weapon, the bullets, his prints, pictures of him holding the weapon, unpopular literature, more shell casings, his ID card and his w
Sorry, Mr. Posner, the case is still open. It will not be closed in our lifetime if ever. Oswald had no idea the President's limo was coming down Elm St directly in front of the book depository that day. How would he? The original route (which was published in the newspaper days before the President's visit) showed the motorcade traveling straight down Main St. Very few people knew that the motorcade was going to turn right onto N Houston St, go one block, and turn left onto Elm St. thus putting the motorcade directly in front of the book depository and coincidentally, the grassy knoll. Not even Abraham Zapruder knew this. Had the route not been changed at the last minute and continued as planned straight down Main St., a sniper on the sixth floor nor one on the grassy knoll could have taken such dead aim at the moving target from that distance. The chances of success are greatly reduced when the target is 350' away instead of 100'. But you did a good job of painting Lee as a troubled man; makes him suspect #1, a conspirator's dream. I think, Mr. Posner, you might want to talk to some CIA agents about their modus operandi in such events. They might inform you of the extreme measures they go to in planning and executing an assassination, who they employ to pull the trigger(s), and how they find and convince the "patsy" to do certain things at certain times. And the patsy will have no idea what is really going on and never will because he too, will soon be dead. Of course, another inconvenient fact is Oswald's last phone call to "Mr. Hurt" that didn't go through. You know what happened there, don't you? I've looked out the sixth-floor window down onto Elm St. Pretty clear shot for a sniper; an excellent location. But not if the target is on Main St and picking up speed as it heads away from downtown toward the freeway. You can call me a conspiracy theorist; doesn't bother me one bit. But, it doesn't change the obvious facts that are there in plain sight for those who choose to see it.
Upon viewing the Zapruder film, how could anyone still think Oswald did it? Fact is, the headshot came from the fence line atop the grassy knoll. Everyone there can be seen running towards the grassy knoll, immediately after the frontal headshot, including all the motorcycle cops, when viewing the Orville Nix film, taken from directly across from Zapruder.
i think 1 shooter or 2 or 3 is kind of moot. The fact that they could kill an American President in such a graphic way so publicly is all the evidence you need that LHO couldn't have done all that preparation alone. Especially with his record during the height of the cold war.
I drew the exact opposite conclusion from the Zapruder film. I'm curious what you think about the orangish/pinkish cloud that obscures Kennedy's face around frame 313? If that is the contents of his skull, how did it fly towards the source of the shot? And also, how did Connally manage to get hit in the thigh from that angle? The bullet from the front would have had to go through the car and Roy Kellerman to hit Connally, wouldn't it? Why did is skull fall over his face? If he was hit on that side, surely it would have been the back left that was the bigger wound, wouldn't it?
@@dogberry20 ...Have you ever fired a high powered rifle at a melon? If so, you know the Mist cloud occurs at the point of impact; it doesn't really "fly" in any direction, except slightly with the direction of the bullet. The Zapruder film factually verifies the direction of the bullet impacting JFK's right forehead, forcing a whiplash back, and to the left. Indicating the source of the shot being fired from his front and from the right, or, the fence on top of the grassy knoll. If Oswald fired any shots at all, from the Book Depository, (which I don't believe), that's fine; but he did not fire the devastating headshot! That shot came from in front of, and from the right side of Kennedy. Could not have come from above, or behind, as the Warren Commission fabrication falsely propagates. You, or anyone who has fired a high powered rifle at an object down range would know that from experience, and seeing the results. As well as viewing the Zapruder film, shows the same results. If you watch the film again, you'll see it clearly. Don't know how you could not see it, if you have viewed the footage?
If Oswald was such an unknown, unconnected entity, why was he being impersonate as early as 1959 when he was in Russia, and multiple times in 1963 in Mexico City and Dallas? If the government was unaware of him, why did the FBI, CIA and other departments have bulging files on him going back years? And why will they still not release many of these files, such as Oswald's tax forms and documents related to the the DRE and George Joannides? And if CE399 (the Magic Bullet) was as true and clear cut as Posner suggests, why did he just dodge the question and instead switch the discussion to the Grassy Knoll? Impressive how Posner can still stick to the same old script with a straight face.
If Oswald didn’t do it, why have we not found 1 piece of evidence tying it to anyone else? If shots were fired from the front, where are the bullet fragments? Why did Oswald run? Why did he resist arrest? Why was every bullet fragment a match to Oswald’s gun?
Exactly. And I find it amazing that people who believe in conspiracy are so willing to absolutely ignore the overwhelming mountain of evidence that points to Oswald ---and he alone.
I’m getting confused. I thought the ballistic test on Oswald showed he had not fired a gun on Nov 22. Also, he was seen just hanging around on the second floor drinking a coke. I also wish there had been a proper autopsy done by experienced personnel, not some rushed job by novices with twenty onlookers. The Dallas coroner was right. It should have been done in Dallas. If it was just Lee HO, there sure were plenty of people who would have been pretty happy about it as JFK and RFK had plenty of enemies. The mafia in particular.
There is none. In fact, there's not even any credible evidence of a conspiracy. One thing people don't understand when it comes to critical thinking is that if there had actually been a conspiracy the evidence would be very clear--not stuff like, well, one guy said he thought he saw smoke behind the grassy knoll, and, that bullet doesn't look damaged enough to have hit both of them, and so on. There would be solid, very credible evidence if there was a conspiracy, but there's not (that's another thing people don't understand when it comes to critical thinking--how to evaluate the evidence and determine whether it is credible or not). Plus, many people are just moved by what they want to be true, so, for example, if you hate the government and don't trust the government you want it to be true that there was a conspiracy, and you find evidence of a conspiracy where there really is none. People don't understand that you can distrust the government, find fault in many places with the Warren Commission report, and it can still be true that Oswald killed Kennedy.
That's easy - the impossibility of 1 bullet doing both JFK and Connally as described, that means at least 4 bullets, (5 if you include the one in the grass that a secret service agent walked off with), so conspiracy.
If you actually seriously consider Oswald acted Alone at this late date and a good 100 reasons against. Specifically, the fundamental evidence, you are as hopeless as a current Trump Supporter.
Thanks for the comment, Randy. Gerald read a ton of books, which is something I asked him. It was a daunting task to go through so many books speculating on the assassination. He lists all of the sources at the end of Case Closed.
@@historyauthorshow Both FBI Agents at Autopsy, and both Autopsy Assistants were adamant SBT never happened. Does that mean anything to you? If not that's on you.
"Why did the Warren Commission release the frames of the footage out of sequence in the report to fit their conclusion and the narrative?" Why did that not end up mattering in the slightest when once the Zapruder frames were released in the correct order, the film still continued to show that it is more likely than not that the same bullet struck both JFK and Connally c.frame 224, and still continued to show that it is more likely than not that the fatal head shot to JFK was fired from behind him?
@@Caeruleo The Z film shows just the opposite. The trajectory was impossible, Connally was hit with a metal jacket several seconds after the throat shot, the head shot was from the front and was a frangible which pushed him violently back.
I’ve been to that grassy knoll. Any assassin is exposed wide open from behind to a very large area. And someone was there and fired off a shot at noon on a sunny day? Absurd!
It's not absurd. The shooter was masquerading as a secret service agent. People saw him and he shooed people away from the fence before and after the murder.
@@scottspencer6899 LOL....Right. "Hey, look over there by the fence...that guy is pointing a rifle at the motorcade..." "Ah, that's just a Secret Service agent."
One simple piece if evidence rules out only LO - or anyone else - firing the weapon he is purported to have used. Many witnesses described the last two shots far closer in time than is possible with that firearm, suggesting that if he were the lone assassin, he used another weapon - or that there was more than one sniper.
"Many witnesses described the last two shots far closer in time than is possible": The Zapruder Film shows about 5.5 seconds between the 2nd and 3rd shots. It is an established fact there was echoing off the triple underpass. Big deal.
@Mark Smale The Zapruder film shows 89 frames between frame #224, when the right lapel of Connally's jacket suddenly bulges outward several inches in less than 1/18th of a second as the bullet exited his chest (and he jerks violently beginning only two frames later, at frame #226), and the head shot at frame #313. At 18.3 frames per second 89 frames would represent ~4.9 seconds. Thus, the two shots (the 2nd & 3rd) were not "right on top of each other" at all. There was more than enough time for those two shots to be fired from the same bolt-action rifle.
Honest Abe Zapruder mentioned he heard echoes from the shots, and Lee Bowers, who worked in the tower in the rail yard, said he'd noticed over the years that - because of the reverb - it was hard to tell which way sounds were coming from; the TSBD area or the triple underpass. No wonder people were confused about the number of shots and from where they had originated. Let's understand the situation better and put things into perspective.
@@peterfraser9070 Fair enough. What about the flash of light - or something similarly unusual - that Mr Bowers saw? Or the smoke lingering above the GK that he and a number of other people saw? Who was the man carrying a high-powered rifle leaving a rear exit of the TSBD who got into a waiting vehicle parked beside the building, seen by a local woman who only told her story to the local paper decades later out of fear of what might happen to her and her family? She had no idea who it was, except that it wasn't LO. The Secret Service had no agents in that building - or any other - that day. The motorcade passed lots of high-rise buildings. Do you discount the evidence of Eric Hoffman (have I spelt that correctly?) and what he saw standing on the triple underpass? The sight on the firearm that LO purportedly used was out of alignment.. On and on - and on - it goes. I have a theory that decent, honest Americans, and I'm sure that there are plenty of them, simply cannot face the truth about the event, that it was organised from within some official circles. It is easier to get perspective from across the ocean, as here in NZ or in the UK or Europe.
@@marksmale827 On the day, Bowers told officer Eugene Boone, who had run up the hill, gone over the fence and saw nothing, that he hadn't seen or heard anything. It wasn't until some time later that in talking to Mark Lane (!) suddenly he said something extremely vague about a very quick movement by someone at the time of the shots. There was a couple who had been on the knoll who had thrown a coke bottle around the time of the shooting and someone mentioned seeing this movement - or the sun catching the bottle in the air. Lane took that and ran with it.
The LHO in Mexico City at the Russian Embassy is not LHO. Photos and audio tapes released since Case Closed demonstrate that as do recordings of calls between Hoover and LBJ. Posner's muscle spasm "demonstration" for the "back and to the left" is ludicrous. Just look at the brain/blood spray on the motorcycle cop behind-and to the left-of the lino. CE399 may not be "pristine," but in didn't bounce off of rib and wrist, either. Especially after pin balling through JFK. I could go on. Look into Vincent Palmera regarding the Secret Service, too.
@@kxkxkxkx He very concisely made an astute commentary on the proliferation of conspiracy theories and how they are absurdly massive, all-encompassing and complex. the JFK case was simple: one guy, one rifle, the end.
I saw the whole interview and Posner does not give any evidence to show Oswald on the 6th floor or that he fired a gun that day. His whole interview he just says look at Oswald’s life, if he really looked at Oswald’s life he would have found Oswald connected to Jack Ruby and David Ferrie and many other assassination characters. Also he mentioned a reporter who saw the Zapruder film saying that reporter did a good job of reporting. Well it’s been documented that the reporter lied about the Zapruder film.
@eyelight3056 Howard Brennan saw a man with a rifle in the window, but in a police line up Brennan could not identify Oswald. Shells falling on the floor doesn’t mean it was Oswald, also the first rifle that was found was a German Mauser found by a gun expert and it was notarized to make it official but later changed by the Dallas Police to a different rifle.
@@christophermanley3602 funny how Posner never explains anything in his interviews, l don’t think l will spend money on any of his books. Because even in his interviews he says things that don’t make sense.
@@rawbacon absolute nonsense. It was photographed at Parkland. And it's not just the bullet in the window. There was also a bullet hole in the chrome above the Window which means there were two misses from two different directions.
3 shots in 5-6 seconds?anyone could have done that..think about it ,actually there would be 2 shots in that amount of time,the clock starts after the first.. shot.which hit the traffic light..this guy got it right as the Warren commission did in '64..congrats to them with the technology of the time
@@kxkxkxkx The KGB had no interest in Oswald whatsoever. People mistakenly think because he had been a Marine, they would have been interested in making him a counter-agent. That's not how the business of intelligence works.
It's important to remember that even if Oswald had admitted his guilt, whether on national television or under interrogation, it couldn't have been used against him in court. Texas had Miranda before the Supreme Court made it the law of the land. . And even if Oswald hadn't confessed, he made up for it by lying about practically everything else.
Could talk forever about this case. One thing I find fascinating is how conspiracy believers believe Oswald when he claims he's a Patsy and do not believe Ruby when he tells why he shot Oswald
Yes sir me also Which was a hard thing to do Ihad been all in on Conspiracy since the 60s cause thats all you heard They didnt believe the warren report before it was released Just a confusing bunch f mumbo jumbo and not agree able to each other Its huge diservice by them Carpetbaggers
@philosophyweb If you get the first shot wrong, then it follows you'll get wrong all shots coming thereafter, which you do. The shot that ricocheted off the concrete curb and injured Tague *_was_* Oswald's first shot, as concluded by mutiple major investigations. But you claim to know better? LOL. You need to keep your JFK fantasy narrative to yourself, or else delete all your posts then run away like a rat caught in a house fire. You chose the latter...
Well here's the bottom line. Where's the kill shot bullet ? Was it found ? If it was found in front of the car, at impact, then the shot came from the back. If it was found behind the car at impact, then the shot came from the front. So was the bullet found ???
@mikedancona9203 There was zero bullet fragment "evidence" found in the car because the car was immediately cleaned and gotten rid of. There was no investigation of that limo otherwise they would've immediately seen the bullet hole through the windshield up near the rear view mirror which has been photographed and proven to exist. This could easily have been the head shot from the front. Kennedy had a gaping grapefruit sized hole in the right rear of his head. This absolutely proves the kill shot could not have come from behind. From the sniper window, the angle would have removed the left side of Kennedys face. Or at least have exited the left side and probably would've hit Jackie as she was looking at him with her face right in the "path" of a bullet from that angle. No, he was hit from the front and the head wound, and Kennedys immediate body movement's, back and left, are proof of a frontal shot.
Bullet fragments from the single fatal head-shot were found in the front seat area on the floor (driver and passenger sides) as expected for a shot from above and behind (which matches the conclusive X-Ray forensics showing radial cracks at the entry point in the rear of the skull and beveling on the outside of the bone in the temple area for the exit). It's a forensic slam-dunk....
Sure they do. In fact, it happened three times, with three presidents assassinated previous to JFK’s assassination. In each case, lone gunmen were responsible, all disgruntled, all with an exaggerated sense of self importance, and in their arrogance, all believed that they were “patriots”. People who believe that there had to be a conspiracy in the JFK assassination do so because they can’t wrap their heads around the fact that Oswald, (whom William Manchester described as a “wretched waif”) who thought himself to be important and relevant, was actually a “nobody”, a loser with a gigantic ego, who couldn’t understand why others didn’t see him the same way that he saw himself, who’s entire life was made up of one disappointment after another, could possibly be responsible for changing the course of history by killing someone as important as JFK. They can’t believe it, because they refuse to believe it.
@@dustystewart430 No way. Watch the new updated Stone film. They have several 'nuts' ready to activate at any time for several purposes. The FBI 'monitors' these people by contacting family members, college professors, other people in they're lives making sure they don't get jobs or conveniently losing the decent jobs they have. As you say "happens all the time". There are idiots who are FBI agents nowadays that would have been targets of the FBI back in Hoover's days. One of these 'agents' was recently arrested in Slidell for assaulting 'her' wife.
Why did Lyndon fly to Europe to lock up the crypto guy found out the plot . Yup psychiatric unit till after election then home to Walter Reed... Then Johnson flew to his ranch and did not travel till show time... Only one man controlled Texas...Jackie said Jacks loudest argument she ever heard was Lyndon's trying to put a leftist senator in Connolly seat... The flatbed film truck that always leads and films ...was placed in the back. LBJ used that car as a trophy ... He got egged in Australia and the same secret service agents followed.Lyndon... Yeah they were all in on it
Thanks for taking the time to comment. I wrote in the Washington Times citing Mr. Posner, all the chatter denies the president a peaceful rest. While he doesn’t know it, the endless chatter steals from his story.
It woulda been funny to see Oswald's face when he realized that others were shooting along w/ him. They had been revving him up conning him into thinking he was one of them for a long time. Why would millionaires like Shaw & de Mohrenaschildt be hanging out w/ a .75 cent/hr bookstacker like Oswald? They wouldn't unless they were conning him to use him like they did. Why would the FBI take Marina into custody for weeks after the killing unless they wanted a creditable source to further the fascade that Oswald was lone nut lunatic acting alone when nothing could be further from the truth.
If you truly believe case closed. You’re dead wrong it will never be closed. Btw, I’m not buying that Oswald was the lone shooter. Interesting book though.
I really don’t want to believe that there was a conspiracy but there is one small fact that I can’t and no one ever explained to me. How could Kennedy brains end up on the truck of the limo if the shot came from behind. Has anybody ever recreated a shot where a bullet entry wound could have that same evict.
Now you'll be able to "understand how the bone from JFK's skull went backward if he was shot from behind." ...cue 32:25 - 33:40 ruclips.net/video/5kXU72RN4-M/видео.html&ab_channel=MillenniumVHS
Firstly, gunshots are incredibly messy, and splatter can go anywhere, especially from a moving target. Second, On the Zapruder film, you can see the shot sends blood and brains flying upward- it makes sense to me that with the car moving forward, some of this splatter in the air would land on the trunk and the motorcycles running behind.
another one faulty reason case closed and the people involved in the coup d eta runs away because there is so many dumy great , thats its justice yoyoruclips.net/video/XCNl-EL27HE/видео.html
Here's what I cannot reconcile: (1). WR says 2nd shot hits Kennedy & Connally. Zupruder film seems to show Connally still holding his hat in his right hand while Kennedy grasps for his throat. Connally, I believe, is also on record saying the same shot that hit Kennedy did not hit him. (2). Even after reading the theory of "the Jet Effect" still can't believe the head shot came from behind as Kennedy slumps back and to the left. Also, in freeze frame the first skull/brain/blood cloud comes from the front. Watch it frame-by-frame. How come there is no cloud from behind? This is why I belive Posner & The WR are bullshit.
Him holding his hat or whatever doesn’t mean anything, and neither does something you THINK he MAY have said before. As for JFKs movements, look up his autopsy photo, it’s pretty clear that “first blood” you’re taking about is from the exit wound opening the poor guy’s skull. There’s plenty of videos on RUclips showing how bullets work this way.
"Zupruder film seems to show Connally still holding his hat in his right hand": Connally said he had his thumb hooked thru the hatband. "Connally, I believe, is also on record saying the same shot that hit Kennedy did not hit him": Connally always said he heard the 1st shot, knew he wasn't hit, turned to look at Kennedy, but not enough to see him - and didn't know if Kennedy had been hit or not - and had almost turned back forward again when he was hit by the 2nd shot. The 1st shot missed the limo completely, and the 2nd shot happens basically behind the big sign. Just as the limo emerges from behind the sign, we see Connally's upper-body is turned slightly to the right and his right hand has gone down by his thigh; that's where the trajectory lines up. When Kennedy's arms go up to his throat, Connally's hat (with the right hand) flips up fast, and he has a very sharp reaction; his mouth opens wide and his face contorts as he turns around. Connally was right in the bullet's path; his entry wound; and the bullet's flattened side further prove it was the same bullet. The Single Bullet conclusion was based on evidence; it wasn't just a wild guess.
"still can't believe the head shot came from behind": 1) Frame by frame shows his head knocked forward and down on impact, and watching frame by frame or at regular speed clearly shows those very visible pieces of skull go flying up and forward like little missiles. 2) the top right part of his head explodes out; the object by his right ear is a piece of skull attached to skin hanging down from the big hole in his head right above it. This can be seen in the autopsy photo, was mentioned in the autopsy report and was seen by Clint Hill. 3) Pieces of the head bullet were found in the limo to the front of Kennedy and even cracked the inside of the windshield. 4)With this head explosion, stuff flew back as well - as we know the motorcycle cop and agent Hill got splattered - but most went forward, and indeed, the Connallys always said they had been covered in it - and so was the front of the limo; windshield and hood. Gross.
@@peterfraser9070 Disagree. Frame-by-frame from Z.313 onward shows a biomatter cloud start at the front right of JFK's head as it violently goes back and he slumps to the left. Kennedy never goes "forward" after the headshot in Z.313
Just to give some alternative evidence in respect of Posner: He admitted to plagiarism. Given that so many witnesses were ridiculed for far less relevant reasons in 1963/64 it makes his viewpoint a bit of a joke, in that context only. When considering Posner and his views it is essential to know that he has both stolen information from established bases, and has manipulated details in scenarios in order to snugly fit evidence nice and snugly to his narrative
"It would be interesting to see Posner debunk James Files." That would be easy, since Files essentially debunked himself by making contradictory and provably false claims, most especially when he mindlessly repeated the silly myth of the "change" to the motorcade route that never happened.
Why? Does he have new evidence not discussed by Posner? Does he address the overwhelming evidence against LHO? Or is he just a quick buck artist earning $ off the gullible?
@wendellrider1212 "Rationalizations" -as in _compelling reasons for_ Not to mention the solid evidence detailed by Posner which implicates Oswald and no other person or group. Disagree? Then you're the "king" of low-watt thinking.
Ive always been amazed how easily people believe conspiracy theories. I mean, they jump in head first and won't listen to reason. Some theories run laughable to bizarre. People shooting from the sewer to Jim Lavelles white suit.
Plenty of credible authors that dispute the lone gunman theory. For example Tom Hartman who concluded that mob was definitely involved. And plenty of unexplained facts that are not consistent with a lone gunman theory.
@@coreyham3753 I'm currently reading Gerald Posners book. He's a journalist and attorney. He does extensive research on Oswald. He is very methodical. He mentioned Tom Hartman and takes on his theories. I'll revisit this conversation once I finish his book.
@@artisaprimus6306 OK, fair enough. For me there are just way to many inconsistencies and physical impossibilities for the lone gunman claim to have much credibility.
@@coreyham3753 Yes, there's a lot of questions. Read Gerald Posner book. The first five or six chapters are just about Oswald and his life up to that point.
@@coreyham3753 Plenty of credible authors that dispute the lone gunman theory": What makes them "credible"? plenty of unexplained facts": There's very little chance that they are actually "facts".
@@kimmartin6160 I think you wanted to reply to someone else. I don't buy into conspiracy theories and know that Oswald did it - and most likely all on his own.
@@peterfraser9070 Your Right In fact I agree with with your assessments However these guys do not play fair and resort to name calling But thanks for fighting the good fight
Remember posner needs to have the large majority of his claims to be true for Oswald to be the lone assassin. But you only need to disprove a few to debunk it
The funny thing about conspiracy theoroists ... they can't put together their own cohesive theory which makes any bit of sense ... they can only take pot shots at the lone gunman conclusion
@@wernerfoerster3666 you're exactly right. It's so easy to criticize any small part of the lone nut version of events. You dont need any proof refuting it, you can just say something like "if Oswald was the lone assassin that day why haven't they released all of the files?" Or "the fact that they haven't released all of the files tells you everything you need to know". They like using "they" a lot. It suggests the assassination was planned and pulled off by a huge number of conspirators from multiple organizations in and outside of the Government.
The only conspiracy theory is the one Hoover put out on THE DAY of killing that it was: Oswald with 3 shots from the window. OH AND BTW, Oswald is a shooter is okay ... but the killer behind the stockade fence has to be "World Class." This is total inaccuracy.
@@dend1961 I know, people can take a entry in the back of the head, a forward movement and forward-flying skull pieces above on impact - and the Connallys and front of car covered a lot more than rear - and try to turn it into a front or side shot. So sad.
Iwould consider that the Zapruder film caught the conspiracy theorist ff guard Because they have for the last 30 yrs tried to get LHO out of that window because Oswald was already working at the TSBD LONG before the Texas trip is planned How would anyone get the motorcade to go by the tsbd for Oswald Has to be a horrible coincidence Also the clock doest start until Oswald pulls the first shot which would leave him two shots in about 8 seconds
man you are dumb. let me make this clear for you. the killers chose LHO to be the patsy. They chose the TSBD to be the kill site. Now they had to get both JFK and LHO to the same location at the same time. So Oswald, who they controlled because he was in their employ, was given a phoney baloney story that he was to take a job at the TSBD. He likely believed he was working undercover. That was the ruse to anchor the patsy to the kill site, owned by Harold Byrd, LBJ's friend I may add. Zapruder worked with DeMohrenschildt's wife and he was LHO's friend. See a pattern here? Once LHO was anchored to the kill site now they had to get Kennedy to Dallas. So they did that and just days before Nov 22, changed the route to swing by the TSBD where the unsuspecting patsy would be located. On Houston steet there is an oblesk, a sacrificial alter for the Illuminati and Free Masons. the highest degree of a free mason is 33rd. Deleay Plaza is 33 degrees latitude. You think that is by chance? Earl Warren was Free mason. So was John McCloy. Israel was the mastermind behind it. There is more going on here than people realize. JFK was feuding with the AZC and Israel just before he was killed. The AZC broke off talks on Aug 22, 1963 and did not resume talks until days after JFK was killed. Saying Oswald did this is a conclusion drawn by a 5 year old.
They cannot do it, because they still feel that they cannot let the public know about the third shot that LHO fired at Jacqueline Kennedy. ruclips.net/video/Hg_QZOkX14I/видео.html
The motivator believing a conspiracy is very largely political. If you are an ardent left winger (like myself) or even a right winger who doesn’t trust any authority, you are motivated that either the right wing military industrial complex and CIA would stoop to conspiracy or a right wing distrust of the government (LBJ). That’s the driver!! I fell for it for 30 years
Thanks for the comment, Bill. You're right and it's something I discuss with Gerald. I can also understand people who lived it wanting the assassination to mean more, to have some people to punish because we were cheated of a trial and sentencing for Oswald. Plus, as often happens in these cases, everyone wants to conveniently blame the people they already hate. It's one reason I admire Republican Theodore Roosevelt. He could have made war on anarchists after Czolgosz killed McKinley, and there certainly was a backlash, but Emma Goldman -- who the assassin credited with inspiring her -- was allowed to stay, until it was Democrat Woodrow Wilson (who cast himself as a progressive) who threw her out for opposing the WWI draft. I think try to look objectively at all the facts and not let any bias taint my view of history, so I'm happy when I see people with different views enjoying the conversation. It means a lot.
Kennedy was hated by Dulles and a lot of the military and even considered a traitor over bay of pigs, Cuban missile crisis and deciding to withdraw from Vietnam
And the motive some people have for believing LHO did it alone is that they can’t stand the thought their government might have pulled a coup d’etat and gotten away with it.
So 1946-2000 we overthrew 81 countries. There is no party it’s the establishment uniparty. Which currently the Dems are war whores I listed military conflicts started by each recent president below. George hw bush started 4 conflicts Clinton: 5 Bush w: 7 Obama: 9 Trump: 0 Biden: 2
I'm no forensic scientist but my understanding is that each gun has certain rifling characteristics that are specific to it, justas each person has a unique set of fingerprints. The bullet fragments are examined under microscope to see if they are a match to the weapon.
@@baronarxv9646 Gen X, I'm 64. But I am curious: What's your point in all this? I'd just guess that you're a person who believes there was a conspiracy.
@@kevinkeller6569 "Pretty hard to do from the 2nd floor lunch room where he was during the shooting. (As witnesses by Roy Truly and a cop within 90 seconds.)" Wrong. Roy Truly and Officer Baker *never* said that Oswald was in the lunchroom *during* the shooting. And 90 seconds after the shooting is still plenty of time for Oswald to reach the lunchroom after firing the shots, since at an average speed of 3 mph (average walking speed for an adult human) he could have easily gotten to the lunchroom no more than 68 seconds after the final shot was fired, since it quite obviously would have not necessarily taken longer than 10 seconds, total, to hide the rifle where it was eventually found.
This book COMPLETELY changed my mind, and then RECLAIMING HISTORY backed it up. There was NO conspiracy PS I saw Posner on TV selling this book in 1993, and I REFUSED to read it, and finally read it in 1996 "for a laugh" and it snapped me out of the conspiracy DELUSION
@@djf750 doesnt take much to change your mind that book is total bullshit faulty reason at least 6 or 7 shots listen to james files the shooter on the grassy knoll head shot blows kennedy head with a remington fireball 222 mercury round ruclips.net/video/XCNl-EL27HE/видео.html
@@djf750 there are many go find it in the archives. If they left left some... nothing to archive in secrecy if there's a Lone assasin. That mind of yours can understand that simple fact... i guess no
Posner makes a good point when he says you need to look at the lives of Oswald and Ruby to really get why the Warren Commission was right. Shortly after seeing the outlandish Oliver Stone film, i saw a 2-3 hr PBS documentary on the life of Oswald. When I saw that documentary, the lone gunman conclusion started to make a lot of sense.
Bare in mind. Oswald didn't defect to Russia. He was sent there. There is proof of that. The embassy in Mexico, that wasn't Oswald. Proof of that too. It was a setup by the CIA. Dead shot came from the front. Hence Oswald not the assassin. Fighting for justice for Marilyn JFK and Dorothy kilgallen. Watch that. By Mark Shaw. Facts facts facts.
@@markdenison2356 Warren report is worth toilet paper. Go to the national archives instead. There is documented facts that were never brought infront of the Warren conspirators. Like the doctors at Parkland, their reports. And the fact that nobody anywhere could place Oswald at the Mexican embassy. Because he wasn't there. In fact, there is a report in the archives stating that J Edgar Hoover was making phone calls to the CIA that the man they had on camera claiming to be Oswald, in fact was not Oswald. The crux of the whole assassination is placing Oswald in Mexico city. Which can't be done.
Posner relieves on nothing else but the lone nut theory of Oswald. hence all his books and interviews concentrates on oswald being a "supposed" loser and being incredibly deranged. which is all made up evidence. the biggest loser in posner books is posner, and posner alone.
Lee Oswald didn't kill anybody. Gerald Posner called on Mark Lane to defend him. He said that even though he feels Oswald was the lone gunman, he had no doubt that if Mark Lane had defended him in court, Oswald would have been acquitted.
@@rnm354 exactly right only idiots/ conspiracy morons could Believe there was more than one shooter. There's no other reasonable evidence to suggest otherwise. Thanks for agreeing with me Ron.
@@rnm354 Ron I'm saying give me an example of evidence I could research that implies there was more than once shooter. You don't have to curse me, I just would like you to provide a path to disprove That lee Harvey Oswald was the lone gunmen.
"You said 3 shots. But I just heard on the Zapruder film there were 5 shots, and the 3 and 4 are very close together. So?" You "heard" five shots on the Zapruder film? That's impossible, since the Zapruder film is a silent film.
@@sstarklite2181 "That’s weird." Actually, it isn't. In 1963 very few home movie cameras had sound. "There are no other videos?" Other films were taken of the assassination, yes, such as the film by Marie Muchmore and the film by Orville Nix. But all were silent, as was typical of home movies at that time. In fact, there is no bonafide audio recording of the gunfire. Some people have mistakenly claimed that the Dallas Police Department dictabelt recording captured the sounds of the gunshots, but the evidence is overwhelming that it actually did not.
@@Caeruleo I remember now, they were saying they think there were 5 shooters from different directions, and 2 were at the same time as another so they said 5 shots in total. I’d have to try and find it though and don’t know if I can.
@@sstarklite2181 "I remember now, they were saying they think there were 5 shooters from different directions, and 2 were at the same time as another so they said 5 shots in total. I’d have to try and find it though and don’t know if I can." I would suggest that whoever "they" is, they are more likely than not to be unreliable sources of information about the JFK assassination who have done poor research, or people who are biased and selective in their use of evidence. I have been studying this assassination for 35 years and I know perfectly well that it most definitely never yet been proven, certainly not in any conclusive and definitive way, that more than three shots were fired. Sure, I'll concede that it's *possible* that more than three were fired, but it is definitely nowhere near a genuinely proven fact that there were.
Please don't call people that want to seek the truth "Conspiracy Theorist" people, and that "anything that pops into their head is somehow true." That is ignorant.
I wonder how many hours these armchair conpiracy theorists have dedicated to studing the case and actually READING. Unless you have expended at least 120 hours of meaningful study, with legitimate sources, you have no business expressing ANY opinion. Once a person does that (assuming at least average intelligence) the vast majority will conclude LHO as lone gunman and no conspiracy. But here is the problem: people of low intelligence, not willing to dedicate more than 5 minutes to any given subject with an attention span of the same duration, being duped by the cottage conspiracy industry (Oliver Stone captaining the ship), AND having absolutely no qualms of shouting their ill informed, ignorant (in a literal sense) conclusions from their narcissistic rooftops.
Almost no people who actually want to seek the truth are doing it by looking at CT books or docs. Anything written by a Jim Marrs or a Roger Craig is a dead end. Look at Posner and Bugliosi and really think on it. It'll be like waking up from a dream and realizing none of that CT stuff was real.
Bugiosi hid the fact there were over 20 shots fired that day. Secret service Agent greer said there were so many shots it sounded like a swarm of bees.
@@michaelparks5669 Nonsense it wasn't Greer who was the driver. He did say that but when pressed by the WC he couldn't say there were more than two other shots. It always good to tell the whole story.
"all the Parkland doctors said that the lower back right of the skull was gone?": They didn't even say that! That's just a stupid CT story claiming the doctors said that.
Where was the entry wound? It had to be somewhere in the front of Kennedy's face if the shot came from the front. I've never heard anyone claim that they saw a small round entry wound anywhere on Kennedy's face .(Entry wounds are small, exit wounds are large.) The supposedly "smoking gun" Zupruder film is actually ironclad evidence that the shot came from behind. When watched carefully in slow motion, one can see an explosion of blood and brain matter in FRONT of Kennedy's head. That is strong evidence that the exit wound was in the top front part of Kennedy's head, as the commission found. Had the shot been from the front that explosion of blood should have been BEHIND Kennedy's head.
He's wrong shot in back then less than 2 seconds a head shot no way .its impossible. I was a MARINE for 6 yrs he had the skill but not the time.zapruder show both shots no way its impossible to get 2 aimed shots just no way
Charles Nicoletti shot from dal tex 5 shots frame of windshielsd, concrete hit Tague, bad round it kennedys back enter half inch, hit Conally, hit the back of kennedys head 1 shot from book depository, hit sewer end in the grass (that shot is to pull attention on book depository) 1 shot from grassy knoll south, hit the windshield and kennedys trhoat, kennedys hand reach is throat because the 1st signal of pain to the brain is the entrance if kennedy would of been hit from behind, his hands would of open , not closing is hand to reach is throat 1 final shot, from grassy knoll north, hit to the temple and blow the back head off, mercury round, explosif thats James Files
@@peterfraser9070 It's not funny at all how do you explain the Mercury found in JFK's brain cavity ????? That's what's used in an exploding bullet. And I suppose JFK's head defied the laws of physics and jerked violently to the rear because the shot came from the rear huh ???? You can make all the laws you want bro you can't change the laws of physics. Like the bullet hole in the windshield that entered from the front Anybody with any reasonable knowledge of gunshots knows that. And before you go talk shit, which I know you're gonna do, the head trauma nurse at parkland hospital is on film saying there's a bullet hole in the windshield from front to back and it's still on RUclips today.
@@SuperErikRoss No, you're right, it's certainly not funny - stupid is what it is. Watch 1) his head go forward and 2) pieces ABOVE his head go forward on impact. You don't get to ignore that. ruclips.net/video/FweaPer1YbQ/видео.html The Connallys always said they were covered in you-know-what and so was the front of the car - and obviously some went back too. The two bullets that hit JFK and JBC both came from Oswald's rifle. This stuff about Nicoletti, Files - and Wallace too, no doubt, storm drains, 2 Oswalds, a Mauser, a "badgeman" is quite nauseating.
@@peterfraser9070 please dont say the head go forward its very easy to see the head goes bacward the policemen behing is splsch with brain matters and blood james files une a remington fire bas 222 shell mercury round explosive its normal that at the impact, specially from a mercury rounds, even a normal round, that some of the blood and matters goes forward but dont say the head is going forward your totaly out of your mind or lie why miss kennedy goes on the car suitcase? she took a piece of the brain , and later give it to a doctor at parkland hospital not to get away like some idiot said hope you dont think she or the doctors lies?? why would they lie, absolutely non sense absolutely no reason for them to lie hope you dont think that johnson , hoover cia have a tons of reason to lie batesda autopsy contradict what the most reputate doctor of parkland said, its so evident, to see whos lying but may be not for faulty or emotions state of mind people im very impress that you say the head goes forward its on zapruder film a ball is falling you gonna say its going up and you really beleive that? no, tell me your that kind of person? that very very faulty reason if so thats too much for me
@@dend1961 Watch 1) his head go forward and 2) pieces ABOVE his head go forward on impact. ruclips.net/video/FweaPer1YbQ/видео.html The Connallys always said they were covered in brain matter and blood, and so was the front of the car, including the hood and front windshield. In the Z Film you can see it was a big head explosion; of course some went back too.
I love that Posner tries to paint Ruby as a grieved fan of JFK. That is hilarious. The Strip Club Owner with deep ties to the Mob was just so upset about the assassination of JFK, (mind you that all his buddies were being investigated by RFK) that he chose to sneak into the garage. and kill Oswald (He had less than a 10-second window to do that) Posner knows how ridiculous this claim is.
@@radar0412 - No, now you're lying son. And you still haven't figured out a comeback to all those witness testimonies because you know you can't. You don't have to lie son, you're not really going to convince anyone anyway, people have seen the same evidence you have, it's just that they don't choose to ignore so much of it like you have. If you ever come up with something good that contradicts all those witnesses, I'd be glad to consider it.
@Ghostdancer Your beloved conspiracy fantasies have long been bursted, except you seem the last to know it. You were "in school" back then, and you're still in school, unable to grasp the plain truth of the Kennedy case.
@@bryanmachin3738 - "They done"? Who are you, Jed Clampit? LOL Plenty of teams have done acoustic tests and found there were more than 3. Plenty of witnesses heard more than 3. And simultaneous shots would sound like one shot to most folks. Agent Kellerman himself testified the limo he was riding in was hit "with a flurry of shells". How many shots do you suppose are in a "flurry of shells" son? Is it just 3 evenly spaced shots coming in one at a time, separated by several seconds do you think? Give it up son, no one still believes the politician's story.
This is a nit picky comment. I was in the first grade. My teacher also happened to be the principal. She was called out of the room and then made the announcement over the p.a. that the president had been shot and school was being dismissed. So, yes, the idea that a classroom of children cheered the president's assassination seems preposterous on the face of it. But as for announcements over the p.a., it happened at least once.
Thanks for commenting. It’s not nitpicky. The story was in that school just the president was dead was cheered. They only announced school was cancelled. Rather pushed that to spin a narrative.
@@historyauthorshow Thanks for the reply. Thanks to RUclips I've gone back and watched live news coverage of the JFK assassination and other dramatic events like the Challenger explosion, the assassination attempt on Reagan, 9/11, et. al. Whatever else Rather's skill as a journalist may be, he has a habit, when doing unscripted reporting, of misreporting what has previously been reported and, frankly, just making stuff up. I'm sure it's a challenging job being a live conduit of breaking news with information coming in from multiple directions. But Rather seems to have that problem more than others.
I was in 6th grade at the time and this is exactly how we found out, over the pa system. But history author is right about Rather. The Texas children were told they were going home early but no reason given, so they cheered. School thought it best to have parents tell them. Rather reported it as if the children were told JFK was shot and they cheered.
@@historyauthorshow Oswald being a cool cucumber is not the proof he did it. Apparently, he was also calm when confronted by Marion Baker and Roy Truly right after he did the dirty deed.
@@terrythomas8486 Because they didn't say that. There was a large broken part of his skull on the right side of his head, from the entry wound to the exit wound, held on by his scalp. You could open and close it. That's the large pink mass that obscures JFK's face in the frame immediately after he is hit in the head on the Zapruder film.
@@klrdotorg The damage to the right side of his head was as you describe. And yes the attending Physicians also described an exit wound 5 inches in diameter in the back of his skull.
Anyone who has read all of the major books or watched the documentaries on the subject and still believes in conspiracy theories, are probably liable to believe in the Easter Bunny. They can’t even agree on where the second or third shooter was and who was involved. It’s understandable for the general public not to be able to have an educated view on it, but someone who has actually studied the facts?
Oswald said he was a patsy. Then he is killed before he can defend himself in a trial. If there was no other evidence, the lone gunman theory would always be suspect. But the is more evidence of a conspiracy. Sixty years of research by theorists.
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Conspiracies abound, the moon landing, Kennedy, 9/11, Princess Diana.
People love a conspiracy and there's money In It.
Well, Posner seems to be doing very well out opposing conspiracy.
There's no bottom to the garbage heap of conspiracy theories. Collecting and believing the has become a perverse pastime for some, like @user-kv5fv2nv7o, aka "Kevin Poole."
The worst Conspiracy? Is that Oswald was alone. And that is at the core of the Warren Commission cover-up. A JFK Researcher only has to rely on the ballistics, medical evidence and witness testimony to bolster their argument. But the WR Apologist? He has to ignore reams of evidence and make Oswald the ONLY SHOOTER. Once you realize that the purpose of the Warren Report is to establish NO CONSPIRACY and not because the evidence shows it but because they are there to PROTECT LBJ. It is next to impossible because there are so many wounds and so many bullets. Even Thomlinson was useless in the WR because he stated before he was sworn in that #399 WAS NOT THE BULLET HE FOUND. His was pointed. And both FBI agents who took possession of it stated the same. Imagine not being able to ask Tomlinson the only question that matters, "Is #399 the bullet you found?" They knew Thomlinson could have brought down the entire cover-up.
We need for Hollywood to do a lone-gunman anti-dote to Oliver Stone's conspiracy-oriented film. The true story would also make compelling viewing: the evolution of Oswald's life and the presidential trip which ended up passing through Dealey Plaza right in front of Oswald's place of work.
Yes, and the irony of how echoing and a muscle reflex contributed so much to conspiracy theories.
@@peterfraser9070 And how a second lone nut deprived us forever of knowing what Oswald might have finally admitted if only he had lived long enough to stand trial. Lone nut #2 bears more responsibility than any other individual person for spawning this myriad and intractable quagmire of theories.
@@Caeruleo Amen, brutha!
@@peterfraser9070 Hahaha.
@@Caeruleo It must be crazy relying on a theory that is dependent upon 2 lone nutters, and a magic bullet that does circus tricks, when in truth, every time more evidence appears, it just confirms what we always knew.That Oswald was a Patsy. sorry pal, we know that there were more bullets found at Parkland than were fired from the Oswald Rifle. We know that the Limo and JFK's Body were hijacked to specifically coverup any Forensic Evidence that would have easily proven a Conspiracy in Dallas. Posner is a good liar and he knows that Oswald WAS NEVER in Mexico CIty. But he can't help himself in gently supporting the CIA fantasy that Oswald was a part of a Cuban or Russian plot.
Me, 8 yrs. old at time of assassination. Big believer in a conspiracy being behind the whole affair. Began to have doubts when nothing ever seemed to break the case open. Got sucked into a conspiracy theory but got myself out of it. Don't know if the purveyors of conspiracy theories are fakers or true believers but it doesn't matter. People like Posner deserve a medal (and our gratitude). Gerald Posner: thank you!
spoken a true sheep...baaaahhhhhhhh
@@mummra7 Sheep? If 80% of Americans believe it’s a conspiracy, who’s running with the herd??
I was 6 y/o, and heard so much about the assassination growing up. Got briefly into reading books by people in the conspiracy racket. Read the Posner book, and that ended it for me. Feel bad for people who’ve wasted their whole lives going down rabbit holes, and finding nothing.
@@mummra7how are you defining "sheep" in this context?
The women on the stairs
Didnt lie Oswald was neither heard or seen rushing down the stairs to the 2nd floor. Game over
@garyferguson1105
Right around 28:30, attorney/author/journalist Posner said that he and his wife "made a hand written card file index of the Warren Commission. There was no index to the Warren Commission". Maybe someone can clarify. I thought indexing work had already been done with regard to the Warren Commission Report by a Sylvia Meagher back in the 1960's. She did this pretty much all by herself as a private citizen. While the commission released quite a bunch of work in their 26 volumes of the WCR, they had not indexed it. Meagher's indexing work made future research into the JFK assassination much easier. It's too bad the federal government had not done this indexing work. The Library of Congress is after all located in Washington D.C. Their team of librarians, archivists, historians, scholars, catalogers and indexers could have done this work in no time.
Im currently reading the book. The author is very meticulous about the facts. The detail about Oswald before the assassination is impressive. Im not done reading it yet.
Try reading a book by someone who knew LHO probably better than anyone on earth except possibly his mother! Me and Lee by Judyth Vary Baker. If you want to know the real life LHO, it's a must read!!! He was innocent!!!
@@kevinkeller6569 Nope, sorry.I've learned not engage conspiracy freaks because they won't listen to logic or reason.
so is Alice in wonderland
@@HugoMaus ah conspiracy freaks. I don't engage conspiracy freaks because they've lost their ability to use logic and reason. Oliver Stone is their priest, even though Stone himself admitted he used artistic license and combined many conspiracy theories in one character.
@@kevinkeller6569 Nope and no one knew him
The one problem I have is the shot that hits Connelly. Connelly himself believed it was a separate shot. But Mr.Posner does a great job putting events together. And giving readers some insight of Oswald's early life..
It doesn't matter if Connally himself thought it was a separate shot; that's not reliable at all. The various evidence is what proves it was the same bullet.
Connally said himself in interviews he knew he wasn't hit by the 1st shot and upon turning around - which wasn't much as we see in the Z Film - didn't see Kennedy and admittedly therefore didn't know if Kennedy had been hit by the 1st shot.
Then we see the limo emerge from behind the sign and both men react at the same time to getting hit. The various physical evidence confirms the same bullet hit both.
@@peterfraser9070 Connally could not have turned round to look at JFK with those injuries. The trajectory is all wrong, it goes against the laws of Physics. I think Connally's testimony is correct, he was hit several seconds after the throat shot as he was turning back L and then keeled over to his L onto his wife.
@michaelhoffman176 "Let's weigh the magic bullet...": The original claim invented by Mark Lane was that what was left in Connally weighed more than what was lost from the bullet - not that it weighed more than a new bullet. You probably just made that up yourself or did one of your 3rd, 4th, 5th etc-hand versions of Lane's lie tell you it weighed more than a new bullet?
@michaelhoffman176 It sounds like you aren't aware of the condition of the Single Bullet - even though that's been out there for 60 years, including the photos. You also aren't even aware of how stupid your "planted bullet" theory is. Explain it, lol.
@@peterfraser9070 So Connally having received those injuries turns completely back to have a good look at JFK, seemingly saying something to Mrs K. And the bullet goes through two/three lots of bone and into Connally's thigh, sustaining little damage. That physical evidence confirms separate bullets. 1 bullet missed, hit pavement, lets say 1 magic bullet (which is incorrect), 1 bullet still in Connally's leg, 1 bullet for head shot (frangible) = 4 bullets, so still means WC incorrect even if sbt applies, which it doesn't.
Your book and the Bugliosi book made it clear to me Oswald acted alone.
You conspiracy theorists never give up . On and on you go . No proof , nothing . Posner got it right.
Lee Oswald was never tried in a court of law and claimed his innocence.
Innocent until proven guilty in our country.
Show me the proof with no doubt that Oswald had that gun in that window at that time. It doesn’t exist but you can try. There is Evidence that a bullet doesn’t do 90 degree turns. There is no proof that Oswald even owned that gun. You Warren committee believing nut cases are not willing to admit you are wrong.
@michaelhoffman176 Everything you posted is factually incorrect. Why don’t you do better research and not be a part of the herd mentality. ? You didn’t post one accurate fact
“In 2010, Posner was the chief investigative reporter at The Daily Beast. Following the revelation that a number of Posner's stories for the Beast contained portions plagiarized from articles in other publications, Posner resigned from the Beast." (Wikipedia)
@m magic No one has to "plagiarize" Oswald-alone; it does very well not only for itself, but for the many who rightfully agree.
@halcolombo6380 For the sake of argument, let's indulge your foolish libel and say that Posner's a plagiarist. But can you claim what he plagiarized is something in error or something that's correct? The latter is clearly the case. Thus, it makes no difference if Posner (assuming he's a copier) copies the truth or any part thereof, which is that Oswald did act alone. Every rational & reasonable person should want to copy that.
There is nothing in this book that had not been published before. Oswald's childhood, life, etc was published in Oswald by de Lillo. And all the other info was in other books and documentaries. This book came out to put an end to that period of 1991- 1994 when every book and film slated the Warren report. An effort to shut up the conspirators.
And Posner chose Mark Lane to represent him.
@@CurCam713 Consummate BS.
why have all the docs not been released in regards to the assassination 60 years later if there was no conspiracy?
For other reasons, apparently. Do you think the CIA killed Kennedy, actually compiled records about this crime of theirs, then continued to so needlessly KEEP those records all these decades??
The government claims there are still matters that need to be kept secret. An example of that sort of thing was that one of the more recent releases of documents contained information about the CIA's surveillance of the USSR and Cuban embassies in Mexico City. That's something they understandably did not want publicized during the Cold War.
@@SirTrollerDerbyeah lots of Soviet defectors with KGB wives make secret trips to the Russian embassy in Mexico City to secretly meet their KGB bosses... No chance of conspiracy there, right? 😂 Pretty common vacation for the average American during the cold war, obviously
When there is any kind of executive or congressional investigation, after the report is published, the investigative documents are sent to the national archives. It’s the national archives policy to seal the investigative documents for 75 years because that is an average lifespan of an individual. On top of intelligence and security matters, they don’t want any people who may have helped or gave information or testimony to be put in danger of retaliation. They want people to know they will be safe if they help these types of investigations.
@@stewartj3407 Excellent point, sir.
Oswald was a mess as a human being. This was his ticket to fame.
then why did he deny it?
@@bobbyologun1517So that he could play his game, go to trial, milk it.
Yea, that why he denied it constantly.
"A mess as a human being?" This was true of Allen Dullas and J. Edgar Hoover, also, not to mention the man who took Office after Kennedy's assassination...
He was a poor orphan in corrupt Louisiana and a dedicated Communist... That's why he joined the KGB in Japan and they gave him a KGB wife in Russia ☝️
Hello, I have seen your comments in this interview and with all due respect, I do not agree; With the simple fact that Jack Ruby killed Lee Harvey Oswald two days later, this confirms that there is a conspiracy, or do you believe Jack Ruby's statement that "I killed him to save Mrs. Kennedy pain."
Ruby also said there was a conspiracy to kill all the Jews in his prison.
Enjoyed the talk, thanks!
I read Case Closed twice after reading mainly conspiracy literature. I'm convinced now: three shots, one gunman, no evidence of conspiracy.
You mean you read the warren report don’t you? Something wrong with it?
I read it as well,i also viewed a PBS nova episode that shows that the magic bullet did do just what was said,it was a solid documentary that focused on the ballistics. Quite convincing.
@@kevinkosmeder6769
I watched that documentary as well. Fortunately the number of conspiracy believers is dwindling thanks to books like this and the internet.
Dallas police chief Jesses Curry stated: "I'm not sure about it. No one has ever been able to put him (Oswald) in the Texas School Book Depository with a rifle in his hand." Curry reasoned in another interview: "I think there's a possibility that one [shot] could have come from in front [of the limousine].
you r quotes are about as reliable as your sources are.
A witness, I believe his name was Howard Brennan, saw Oswald with the rifle in the window. Later that day, viewing a lineup, he hedged, saying that he thought it was Oswald but didn't want to say definitely. Subsequently, he admitted that he could identify Oswald in the lineup but hesitated to say so because as a witness he feared he might be in some danger. Brennan was farsighted and had excellent vision at the time. Conspiracy theorists make much of the claim that Brennan had poor vision. But that was the case only later when his vision was damaged in a sand blasting accident. The last place anyone at the Book Depository saw Oswald before the shooting was on the sixth floor. During interrogation, Oswald claimed he was on the first floor eating lunch. But others who were there testified that Oswald wasn't.
There are multiple witnesses from the street who saw shots coming from the TSB. There were 3 workers on the 5th floor of the TSB looking out the window. There was construction going on at the TSB and there was a hole btwn the 5th and 6th floors. All these workers clearly heard 3 shots; no more, no less. These were deafening sounds, like made by a cherry bomb. No mistaking the number fired. Then heard someone running away. Everyone remaining in the building accounted for EXCEPT for LHO. The gun found had LHO fingerprints on it and the bullets found in the limo matched the rifle found on the floor. This all ties LHO to the gun and the gun to JFK. Everything else is blue smoke and mirrors. Just garbage.
Where exactly from the front would that have been, genius? The bridge?
@@SirTrollerDerby Oswald acted alone
“Reclaiming HIstory” is more definitive than Posner’s book, but both are musts on this issue.
Yes, that's right, and it is much healthier for these CT people to deal in reality. Besides, the truth is more interesting; the way nutty Oswald did it and the way all these nutty theories sprang up and took on a life of their own.
@@peterfraser9070 The fact is that Reclaiming History has been successfully debunked by James DiEugenio. The reality is that you are categorically wrong, as there is huge amounts of evidence that Oswald did not act alone - you lone-nut theory people are total zealots that assume you are much cleverer that those serious researchers that have spent decades doing their work, You are fooled by people like Posner, Myers, Buglisiosi that twist, bend and hide evidence to suit their narrative and fools like you fall for it.
Bugliosi's book is literally exhaustive and it's coverage of the conspiracy theories is simply exhausting & unnecessary. The Posner book does have errors but it's really sufficient unless your willing and prepared to wade through 1,700 pages (plus a CD-ROM)
Two things convinced me Oswald was the assassin. The Zapruder Film, in which you can clearly see that JFK and the governor react to being hit by a bullet at almost exactly the same time and going to Dealey Plaza and seeing how small the area actually is and that it wasn't that tough of a shot
Except the head shot obviously came from the right front. hjat kind of moron would actually believe a Neuromuscular Reaction could overcome a bullet flying at 2500-3000 feet per second?
How does that convince you that oswald did it? It could been anybody (malcolm Wallace). Oswald's fingerprints were not on the boxes. His fingerprints were not on the gun until after his death. Too much evidence to say Oswald didn't do it
@@ryanwilliams6206 You've been reading the wrong books. The only assassination books with any credibility are "Case Closed" by Gerald Posner, " A Cruel and Shocking Act" by Philip Shenon, "Reclaiming History" by Vincent Bugliosi, and only slightly less recommended "Oswald's Tale" by Norman Mailer.
All the rest are full of lies and theories based on little to no evidence. And they all pin the unproven conspiracy on different people. LBJ, or the CIA, or Castro, or USSR, or Castro AND the USSR, or Army Intelligence. The list goes on and on, but the only real, verifiable evidence of a shooter is Oswald and Oswald alone. Some nut in Dealey Plaza tried to tell me there were six shooters and the head shot was fired from a sewer drain in the curb. LOL
So how does that make LHO the killer? Connally himself said he was struck by a different bullet and the Zap film clearly shows he was right! What film are you looking at? I have an igloo in Florida for sale. Interested?
Another person who does not know what he is talking about. No wonder lone nutters exist because you have NO CLUE what you are talking about. I cannot explain what? Example please. You are saying it was Oswald's weapon. I am saying the evidence was faked. So lets consider it. 1) According to you Oswald bought a rifle that could be traced to him when he had no reason to do so; a rifle he intended to use on a human being when he could have bought one over the counter that could not be traced to him. I say the rifle was assigned to Oswald to frame him. 2) The money order has a signature. You say its Oswald's. I say signatures can be faked. The gov't fakes things all the time. 3) The time of purchase on the bill of sale aligns with when Oswald was at work according to his own time card! Do you have an explanation for this? How could he be in 2 places at once? 4) The scope on the rifle in the backyard pics is on the top. But in the pictures of the rifle on Nov 22, 1963 being taken from the TSBD it shows them on the side. These are clearly 2 different rifles which again suggests a screwed up frame up job . Your explanation is what? 5) The money order did not go through the bank routing system, meaning IT WAS NEVER CASHED. I say that is because it was faked. What is your explanation? 6) The rifle according to the document was purchased in unreasonable lightening quick speed for 1963. I say that is because the document is faked and the fakers made an oversight. What is your explanation? 7) The serial number on the money order dates from late 1963 to early 1964 (Which is when the frame up job of the document was taking place) Yet this order was supposed to have been circulated in March 1963. I say this was another clue that the entire document was faked and the fakers made yet another crucial error. They should have at least located an unused March 1963 order. They did not. What is your explanation? Again, you like that idiot Gerald Posner is lacking a lot of key information and you have failed to do any serious research. Your research came from a cereal box. "Oswald owned rifle. Me cave man" Me believe government." The evidence is evidence of a conspiracy and frame up. Oswald's prints on the rifle, put there on Nov 25th after he was fingerprinted at the morgue, shell casings which link to a Carcano which did not need to be there, a dubious money order with dubious links to Oswald which did not need to exist but does. The rifle planted at the crime scene which could have been disassembled and snuck out, shell casings at the Tippit crime scene that did not need to be there, a dropped wallet found at the crime scene that did not need to be there. Name me one other crime case where the perp left his weapon, the bullets, his prints, pictures of him holding the weapon, unpopular literature, more shell casings, his ID card and his w
If there was no conspiracy to killed JFK, why did the Dallas PD not surround Oswald on the way to be moved?
Because YOU didn't tell them Jack Ruby was in the house. I blame YOU!
Oh , come on! That's just silly!
Do you think this is a clever question? Lmao don’t vote
A bigger mistake they made was not moving Oswald at night . Curry career was done after 11/22.
House committee was a joke.
Sorry, Mr. Posner, the case is still open. It will not be closed in our lifetime if ever. Oswald had no idea the President's limo was coming down Elm St directly in front of the book depository that day. How would he? The original route (which was published in the newspaper days before the President's visit) showed the motorcade traveling straight down Main St. Very few people knew that the motorcade was going to turn right onto N Houston St, go one block, and turn left onto Elm St. thus putting the motorcade directly in front of the book depository and coincidentally, the grassy knoll. Not even Abraham Zapruder knew this. Had the route not been changed at the last minute and continued as planned straight down Main St., a sniper on the sixth floor nor one on the grassy knoll could have taken such dead aim at the moving target from that distance. The chances of success are greatly reduced when the target is 350' away instead of 100'. But you did a good job of painting Lee as a troubled man; makes him suspect #1, a conspirator's dream. I think, Mr. Posner, you might want to talk to some CIA agents about their modus operandi in such events. They might inform you of the extreme measures they go to in planning and executing an assassination, who they employ to pull the trigger(s), and how they find and convince the "patsy" to do certain things at certain times. And the patsy will have no idea what is really going on and never will because he too, will soon be dead. Of course, another inconvenient fact is Oswald's last phone call to "Mr. Hurt" that didn't go through. You know what happened there, don't you? I've looked out the sixth-floor window down onto Elm St. Pretty clear shot for a sniper; an excellent location. But not if the target is on Main St and picking up speed as it heads away from downtown toward the freeway. You can call me a conspiracy theorist; doesn't bother me one bit. But, it doesn't change the obvious facts that are there in plain sight for those who choose to see it.
Upon viewing the Zapruder film, how could anyone still think Oswald did it? Fact is, the headshot came from the fence line atop the grassy knoll. Everyone there can be seen running towards the grassy knoll, immediately after the frontal headshot, including all the motorcycle cops, when viewing the Orville Nix film, taken from directly across from Zapruder.
i think 1 shooter or 2 or 3 is kind of moot. The fact that they could kill an American President in such a graphic way so publicly is all the evidence you need that LHO couldn't have done all that preparation alone. Especially with his record during the height of the cold war.
I drew the exact opposite conclusion from the Zapruder film. I'm curious what you think about the orangish/pinkish cloud that obscures Kennedy's face around frame 313? If that is the contents of his skull, how did it fly towards the source of the shot? And also, how did Connally manage to get hit in the thigh from that angle? The bullet from the front would have had to go through the car and Roy Kellerman to hit Connally, wouldn't it? Why did is skull fall over his face? If he was hit on that side, surely it would have been the back left that was the bigger wound, wouldn't it?
@@dogberry20Well put
@@dogberry20 ...Have you ever fired a high powered rifle at a melon?
If so, you know the Mist cloud occurs at the point of impact; it doesn't really "fly" in any direction, except slightly with the direction of the bullet.
The Zapruder film factually verifies the direction of the bullet impacting JFK's right forehead, forcing a whiplash back, and to the left. Indicating the source of the shot being fired from his front and from the right, or, the fence on top of the grassy knoll.
If Oswald fired any shots at all, from the Book Depository, (which I don't believe), that's fine; but he did not fire the devastating headshot! That shot came from in front of, and from the right side of Kennedy. Could not have come from above, or behind, as the Warren Commission fabrication falsely propagates.
You, or anyone who has fired a high powered rifle at an object down range would know that from experience, and seeing the results. As well as viewing the Zapruder film, shows the same results. If you watch the film again, you'll see it clearly. Don't know how you could not see it, if you have viewed the footage?
Talk about MLK,RFK,,all Govt involved
What I dislike about all the conspiracy theories is that LHO is almost always given an out while he was a miserable little no one…
According to his boss at the TSBD he was an above average employee.
If Oswald was such an unknown, unconnected entity, why was he being impersonate as early as 1959 when he was in Russia, and multiple times in 1963 in Mexico City and Dallas?
If the government was unaware of him, why did the FBI, CIA and other departments have bulging files on him going back years? And why will they still not release many of these files, such as Oswald's tax forms and documents related to the the DRE and George Joannides?
And if CE399 (the Magic Bullet) was as true and clear cut as Posner suggests, why did he just dodge the question and instead switch the discussion to the Grassy Knoll?
Impressive how Posner can still stick to the same old script with a straight face.
He wasn't
If Oswald didn’t do it, why have we not found 1 piece of evidence tying it to anyone else? If shots were fired from the front, where are the bullet fragments? Why did Oswald run? Why did he resist arrest? Why was every bullet fragment a match to Oswald’s gun?
Exactly. And I find it amazing that people who believe in conspiracy are so willing to absolutely ignore the overwhelming mountain of evidence that points to Oswald ---and he alone.
Thanks for taking the time to comment, Mark. The idea nobody ever, ever talked and they did everything 100% perfect is absurd to the extreme.
How were the fragments matched to the gun?
I’m getting confused. I thought the ballistic test on Oswald showed he had not fired a gun on Nov 22. Also, he was seen just hanging around on the second floor drinking a coke.
I also wish there had been a proper autopsy done by experienced personnel, not some rushed job by novices with twenty onlookers. The Dallas coroner was right. It should have been done in Dallas.
If it was just Lee HO, there sure were plenty of people who would have been pretty happy about it as JFK and RFK had plenty of enemies. The mafia in particular.
And why did he kill the cop if he wasn't guilty?
I'm still looking for one piece of evidence that proves a conspiracy.
There is none. In fact, there's not even any credible evidence of a conspiracy. One thing people don't understand when it comes to critical thinking is that if there had actually been a conspiracy the evidence would be very clear--not stuff like, well, one guy said he thought he saw smoke behind the grassy knoll, and, that bullet doesn't look damaged enough to have hit both of them, and so on. There would be solid, very credible evidence if there was a conspiracy, but there's not (that's another thing people don't understand when it comes to critical thinking--how to evaluate the evidence and determine whether it is credible or not). Plus, many people are just moved by what they want to be true, so, for example, if you hate the government and don't trust the government you want it to be true that there was a conspiracy, and you find evidence of a conspiracy where there really is none. People don't understand that you can distrust the government, find fault in many places with the Warren Commission report, and it can still be true that Oswald killed Kennedy.
Not only that at least 10 more like a 100 people at least have to be involved in this conspiracy and no one ever talks ? NO !!
The case against CE399
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The case against CE399.
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That's easy - the impossibility of 1 bullet doing both JFK and Connally as described, that means at least 4 bullets, (5 if you include the one in the grass that a secret service agent walked off with), so conspiracy.
I would like to know if Posner read Reclaming History and what he thought of Bugliosi picking out his mistakes and trying to one up him.
If you actually seriously consider Oswald acted Alone at this late date and a good 100 reasons against. Specifically, the fundamental evidence, you are as hopeless as a current Trump Supporter.
@@vernpascal1531 100 reasons against my ass name 3 hell name one. You're living in fantasyland.
Thanks for the comment, Randy. Gerald read a ton of books, which is something I asked him. It was a daunting task to go through so many books speculating on the assassination. He lists all of the sources at the end of Case Closed.
@@historyauthorshow Both FBI Agents at Autopsy, and both Autopsy Assistants were adamant SBT never happened. Does that mean anything to you? If not that's on you.
@@vernpascal1531 well said
Why did the Warren Commission release the frames of the footage out of sequence in the report to fit their conclusion and the narrative?
"Why did the Warren Commission release the frames of the footage out of sequence in the report to fit their conclusion and the narrative?"
Why did that not end up mattering in the slightest when once the Zapruder frames were released in the correct order, the film still continued to show that it is more likely than not that the same bullet struck both JFK and Connally c.frame 224, and still continued to show that it is more likely than not that the fatal head shot to JFK was fired from behind him?
@@Caeruleo The Z film shows just the opposite. The trajectory was impossible, Connally was hit with a metal jacket several seconds after the throat shot, the head shot was from the front and was a frangible which pushed him violently back.
I’ve been to that grassy knoll. Any assassin is exposed wide open from behind to a very large area. And someone was there and fired off a shot at noon on a sunny day? Absurd!
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment, Christopher. A key observation we didn't cover here.
It's not absurd.
The shooter was masquerading as a secret service agent.
People saw him and he shooed people away from the fence before and after the murder.
And what is more, any shot from that grassy knoll, that had hit JFK, would have hit Jackie Kennedy as well.
@@scottspencer6899 LOL....Right. "Hey, look over there by the fence...that guy is pointing a rifle at the motorcade..." "Ah, that's just a Secret Service agent."
@@scottspencer6899 there was more than one shooter
Gerald Posner has given us new hope that Ockham’s Razor may survive.
One simple piece if evidence rules out only LO - or anyone else - firing the weapon he is purported to have used. Many witnesses described the last two shots far closer in time than is possible with that firearm, suggesting that if he were the lone assassin, he used another weapon - or that there was more than one sniper.
"Many witnesses described the last two shots far closer in time than is possible": The Zapruder Film shows about 5.5 seconds between the 2nd and 3rd shots. It is an established fact there was echoing off the triple underpass. Big deal.
@Mark Smale The Zapruder film shows 89 frames between frame #224, when the right lapel of Connally's jacket suddenly bulges outward several inches in less than 1/18th of a second as the bullet exited his chest (and he jerks violently beginning only two frames later, at frame #226), and the head shot at frame #313. At 18.3 frames per second 89 frames would represent ~4.9 seconds. Thus, the two shots (the 2nd & 3rd) were not "right on top of each other" at all. There was more than enough time for those two shots to be fired from the same bolt-action rifle.
Honest Abe Zapruder mentioned he heard echoes from the shots, and Lee Bowers, who worked in the tower in the rail yard, said he'd noticed over the years that - because of the reverb - it was hard to tell which way sounds were coming from; the TSBD area or the triple underpass. No wonder people were confused about the number of shots and from where they had originated.
Let's understand the situation better and put things into perspective.
@@peterfraser9070 Fair enough. What about the flash of light - or something similarly unusual - that Mr Bowers saw? Or the smoke lingering above the GK that he and a number of other people saw?
Who was the man carrying a high-powered rifle leaving a rear exit of the TSBD who got into a waiting vehicle parked beside the building, seen by a local woman who only told her story to the local paper decades later out of fear of what might happen to her and her family? She had no idea who it was, except that it wasn't LO. The Secret Service had no agents in that building - or any other - that day. The motorcade passed lots of high-rise buildings.
Do you discount the evidence of Eric Hoffman (have I spelt that correctly?) and what he saw standing on the triple underpass?
The sight on the firearm that LO purportedly used was out of alignment..
On and on - and on - it goes.
I have a theory that decent, honest Americans, and I'm sure that there are plenty of them, simply cannot face the truth about the event, that it was organised from within some official circles. It is easier to get perspective from across the ocean, as here in NZ or in the UK or Europe.
@@marksmale827 On the day, Bowers told officer Eugene Boone, who had run up the hill, gone over the fence and saw nothing, that he hadn't seen or heard anything. It wasn't until some time later that in talking to Mark Lane (!) suddenly he said something extremely vague about a very quick movement by someone at the time of the shots.
There was a couple who had been on the knoll who had thrown a coke bottle around the time of the shooting and someone mentioned seeing this movement - or the sun catching the bottle in the air.
Lane took that and ran with it.
People believe what they want to believe.
Even those of us who try to be objective and base our opinions on evidence and sound reasoning are not immune to that common human foible.
I believe the facts, in the 80s I wanted to believe it was a conspiracy. The facts proved me wrong.
@@rawbacon One day we will all know the truth, whatever it is!
That is for sure. Why do you think religions are still popular?
Posner should write an autobiography: "Brain Closed".
I think he knows that his story is BS. But, his career is made by being the Lone Nut spokesman.
How is it bs ?
The LHO in Mexico City at the Russian Embassy is not LHO. Photos and audio tapes released since Case Closed demonstrate that as do recordings of calls between Hoover and LBJ. Posner's muscle spasm "demonstration" for the "back and to the left" is ludicrous. Just look at the brain/blood spray on the motorcycle cop behind-and to the left-of the lino. CE399 may not be "pristine," but in didn't bounce off of rib and wrist, either. Especially after pin balling through JFK. I could go on. Look into Vincent Palmera regarding the Secret Service, too.
And it should be about why people support Trump!
Man with gun. Man pulls trigger. Man dead.
3 men with guns fire 3 shots man dead man hurt. Cop dead. Witnesses dead. CIA author covers it up.
The end. Short and sweet.
The internet was better without you on it
@@kxkxkxkx He very concisely made an astute commentary on the proliferation of conspiracy theories and how they are absurdly massive, all-encompassing and complex. the JFK case was simple: one guy, one rifle, the end.
It truly is that simple. It's easy to kill with a rifle at that range and speed....Thousands of deer hunters do much better each and every year.
I saw the whole interview and Posner does not give any evidence to show Oswald on the 6th floor or that he fired a gun that day. His whole interview he just says look at Oswald’s life, if he really looked at Oswald’s life he would have found Oswald connected to Jack Ruby and David Ferrie and many other assassination characters. Also he mentioned a reporter who saw the Zapruder film saying that reporter did a good job of reporting. Well it’s been documented that the reporter lied about the Zapruder film.
This guy is nonsense. Total Bullcrap.
@eyelight3056 Howard Brennan saw a man with a rifle in the window, but in a police line up
Brennan could not identify Oswald. Shells falling on the floor doesn’t mean it was
Oswald, also the first rifle that was found was a German Mauser found by a gun
expert and it was notarized to make it official but later changed by the Dallas
Police to a different rifle.
@@panchovilla7235I suggest you read Posner’s book. He addresses every one of the statements you made.
@@christophermanley3602 funny how Posner never explains anything in his interviews, l don’t think l
will spend money on any of his books. Because even in his interviews he
says things that don’t make sense.
@@panchovilla7235 the whole book is free on RUclips as an audio book.
Bullet Hole in winshield
No, the windshield is still in The National Archives today and there is no hole in it.
crack on the inside, and also, look at frames 312 to 314 and look above his head too :)
@RAW BACON. Wrong windshield. Witnesses saw a hole in it the circumference of a pencil.
your "witnesses" see anything you want them to.
@@rawbacon absolute nonsense. It was photographed at Parkland. And it's not just the bullet in the window. There was also a bullet hole in the chrome above the Window which means there were two misses from two different directions.
3 shots in 5-6 seconds?anyone could have done that..think about it ,actually there would be 2 shots in that amount of time,the clock starts after the first..
shot.which hit the traffic light..this guy got it right as the Warren commission did in '64..congrats to them with the technology of the time
8 seconds. 8 !!! 8 seconds.
Nope. Apparently you've never shouldered a bolt action rifle with a scope mounted on it.
Oswald wanted the recognition, to be known as someone who changed the course of history, yet he immediately denied it on national television?
That is exactly how the KGB trained him to act.... A very common tactic☝️
@@kxkxkxkx The KGB had no interest in Oswald whatsoever. People mistakenly think because he had been a Marine, they would have been interested in making him a counter-agent. That's not how the business of intelligence works.
It's important to remember that even if Oswald had admitted his guilt, whether on national television or under interrogation, it couldn't have been used against him in court. Texas had Miranda before the Supreme Court made it the law of the land. .
And even if Oswald hadn't confessed, he made up for it by lying about practically everything else.
Yeah, he wanted to "be someone" until he actually killed the president. Then he woke up to what he'd really done--it's called being a NUT.
I agree that Oswald did it all by himself. Case closed indeed.
OSWALD DID NOT HAVE THE BRAINS TO KILL KENNEDY. IT HAD TO BE BIG TIME SNIPERS WHO KNOW WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
@@nereidatorres7613So they trusted him,lol,he was insane…
Right on! The conspiracy theorists cannot provide a solid, factual explanation otherwise.
Could talk forever about this case. One thing I find fascinating is how conspiracy believers believe Oswald when he claims he's a Patsy and do not believe Ruby when he tells why he shot Oswald
The chapter that reads like a biography of Oswald in Case Closed is what convinced me that Oswald did it.
Yes sir me also Which was a hard thing to do Ihad been all in on Conspiracy since the 60s cause thats all you heard They didnt believe the warren report before it was released Just a confusing bunch f mumbo jumbo and not agree able to each other Its huge diservice by them Carpetbaggers
He was framed. This programme is bullshit
@philosophyweb If you get the first shot wrong, then it follows you'll get wrong all shots coming thereafter, which you do. The shot that ricocheted off the concrete curb and injured Tague *_was_* Oswald's first shot, as concluded by mutiple major investigations. But you claim to know better? LOL. You need to keep your JFK fantasy narrative to yourself, or else delete all your posts then run away like a rat caught in a house fire. You chose the latter...
Only took you 60 years to figure it out 😂 you must be a mental genius
@@kxkxkxkx I didn't bother watching it!!!!
Well here's the bottom line. Where's the kill shot bullet ? Was it found ? If it was found in front of the car, at impact, then the shot came from the back. If it was found behind the car at impact, then the shot came from the front. So was the bullet found ???
fragments all inside the car
it came from behind, there's enough evidence
So the bullet exploded ?
@mikedancona9203 There was zero bullet fragment "evidence" found in the car because the car was immediately cleaned and gotten rid of. There was no investigation of that limo otherwise they would've immediately seen the bullet hole through the windshield up near the rear view mirror which has been photographed and proven to exist. This could easily have been the head shot from the front. Kennedy had a gaping grapefruit sized hole in the right rear of his head. This absolutely proves the kill shot could not have come from behind. From the sniper window, the angle would have removed the left side of Kennedys face. Or at least have exited the left side and probably would've hit Jackie as she was looking at him with her face right in the "path" of a bullet from that angle. No, he was hit from the front and the head wound, and Kennedys immediate body movement's, back and left, are proof of a frontal shot.
Bullet fragments from the single fatal head-shot were found in the front seat area on the floor (driver and passenger sides) as expected for a shot from above and behind (which matches the conclusive X-Ray forensics showing radial cracks at the entry point in the rear of the skull and beveling on the outside of the bone in the temple area for the exit). It's a forensic slam-dunk....
Oswald wanted to be famous common trait among assassins
To think that LHO acted alone & JFK's assassination was a 'random tragic event' is beyond crazy. These things just don't happen that neatly.
Yes they do.
Sure they do. In fact, it happened three times, with three presidents assassinated previous to JFK’s assassination.
In each case, lone gunmen were responsible, all disgruntled, all with an exaggerated sense of self importance, and in their arrogance, all believed that they were “patriots”.
People who believe that there had to be a conspiracy in the JFK assassination do so because they can’t wrap their heads around the fact that Oswald, (whom William Manchester described as a “wretched waif”) who thought himself to be important and relevant, was actually a “nobody”, a loser with a gigantic ego, who couldn’t understand why others didn’t see him the same way that he saw himself, who’s entire life was made up of one disappointment after another, could possibly be responsible for changing the course of history by killing someone as important as JFK.
They can’t believe it, because they refuse to believe it.
@@dustystewart430 No way. Watch the new updated Stone film. They have several 'nuts' ready to activate at any time for several purposes. The FBI 'monitors' these people by contacting family members, college professors, other people in they're lives making sure they don't get jobs or conveniently losing the decent jobs they have. As you say "happens all the time". There are idiots who are FBI agents nowadays that would have been targets of the FBI back in Hoover's days. One of these 'agents' was recently arrested in Slidell for assaulting 'her' wife.
@@mikejackson8916 No they don't.
thinking otherwise despite all the evidence that says LHO acted alone is beyond crazy.
Posner has been made a mockery of since his BS book
That's because millions and millions of people live in denial and want to replace reality with fantasy.
Why did Lyndon fly to Europe to lock up the crypto guy found out the plot . Yup psychiatric unit till after election then home to Walter Reed... Then Johnson flew to his ranch and did not travel till show time... Only one man controlled Texas...Jackie said Jacks loudest argument she ever heard was Lyndon's trying to put a leftist senator in Connolly seat... The flatbed film truck that always leads and films ...was placed in the back. LBJ used that car as a trophy ... He got egged in Australia and the same secret service agents followed.Lyndon... Yeah they were all in on it
The Case is finally closed. Let's stop the conspiracies.
Thanks for taking the time to comment. I wrote in the Washington Times citing Mr. Posner, all the chatter denies the president a peaceful rest. While he doesn’t know it, the endless chatter steals from his story.
The case against CE399.
ruclips.net/video/23C6dT_L7I0/видео.htmlsi=QS9wMqU-y_GFiDAK
12 dollars in 1963 is like 120 dollars today. Plus its a military surplus weapon.
C'mon it's a 120 grain bullet going 2000 ft per second,way more lethal than any "cap gun". @michaelhoffman176
@michaelhoffman176 It was a rifle for killing people issued by the Italian Govt to it's soldiers. Your claim is moronic.
The JFK assassination says more about human nature than anything else.
Oswald realized he was a patsy when he saw Kennedy's head explode and realized he didn't take that shot
It woulda been funny to see Oswald's face when he realized that others were shooting along w/ him. They had been revving him up conning him into thinking he was one of them for a long time. Why would millionaires like Shaw & de Mohrenaschildt be hanging out w/ a .75 cent/hr bookstacker like Oswald? They wouldn't unless they were conning him to use him like they did. Why would the FBI take Marina into custody for weeks after the killing unless they wanted a creditable source to further the fascade that Oswald was lone nut lunatic acting alone when nothing could be further from the truth.
I don't think he saw anything, as he was busy having a drink in the lunch room. 😂
No one will ever convince anyone that he did it if they have already decided he didn't do it.
If you truly believe case closed. You’re dead wrong it will never be closed. Btw, I’m not buying that Oswald was the lone shooter. Interesting book though.
This case is still open
The JFK throat shot did not hit Connally so you are saying the JFK head shot also hit Connally?
I really don’t want to believe that there was a conspiracy but there is one small fact that I can’t and no one ever explained to me. How could Kennedy brains end up on the truck of the limo if the shot came from behind. Has anybody ever recreated a shot where a bullet entry wound could have that same evict.
Now you'll be able to "understand how the bone from JFK's skull went backward if he was shot from behind." ...cue 32:25 - 33:40 ruclips.net/video/5kXU72RN4-M/видео.html&ab_channel=MillenniumVHS
Firstly, gunshots are incredibly messy, and splatter can go anywhere, especially from a moving target.
Second, On the Zapruder film, you can see the shot sends blood and brains flying upward- it makes sense to me that with the car moving forward, some of this splatter in the air would land on the trunk and the motorcycles running behind.
There was more blood, brain matter, and skull fragments in front of Kennedy in the limo than in back of him.
If you smash a pane of glass do you think all of the glass goes forward?
This is a solid no bs book. Guy answered many nagging questions with facts not more hot air
Thanks for taking the time to comment and I’m glad you found it informative.
He answered nothing. Posner builds so many straw man arguments and leaves out crucial details. He is a moron
I'm glad this case is finally closed
I know, right? I was relieved to see that, too.
another one
faulty reason case closed and the people involved in the coup d eta runs away because there is so many dumy
great , thats its justice yoyoruclips.net/video/XCNl-EL27HE/видео.html
I was in junior high. We heard of the shooting. Then, over the PA, we heard the radio news.
Here's what I cannot reconcile:
(1). WR says 2nd shot hits Kennedy & Connally. Zupruder film seems to show Connally still holding his hat in his right hand while Kennedy grasps for his throat. Connally, I believe, is also on record saying the same shot that hit Kennedy did not hit him.
(2). Even after reading the theory of "the Jet Effect" still can't believe the head shot came from behind as Kennedy slumps back and to the left. Also, in freeze frame the first skull/brain/blood cloud comes from the front. Watch it frame-by-frame. How come there is no cloud from behind?
This is why I belive Posner & The WR are bullshit.
Him holding his hat or whatever doesn’t mean anything, and neither does something you THINK he MAY have said before.
As for JFKs movements, look up his autopsy photo, it’s pretty clear that “first blood” you’re taking about is from the exit wound opening the poor guy’s skull. There’s plenty of videos on RUclips showing how bullets work this way.
"Zupruder film seems to show Connally still holding his hat in his right hand":
Connally said he had his thumb hooked thru the hatband.
"Connally, I believe, is also on record saying the same shot that hit Kennedy did not hit him":
Connally always said he heard the 1st shot, knew he wasn't hit, turned to look at Kennedy, but not enough to see him - and didn't know if Kennedy had been hit or not - and had almost turned back forward again when he was hit by the 2nd shot.
The 1st shot missed the limo completely, and the 2nd shot happens basically behind the big sign. Just as the limo emerges from behind the sign, we see Connally's upper-body is turned slightly to the right and his right hand has gone down by his thigh; that's where the trajectory lines up.
When Kennedy's arms go up to his throat, Connally's hat (with the right hand) flips up fast, and he has a very sharp reaction; his mouth opens wide and his face contorts as he turns around.
Connally was right in the bullet's path; his entry wound; and the bullet's flattened side further prove it was the same bullet. The Single Bullet conclusion was based on evidence; it wasn't just a wild guess.
"still can't believe the head shot came from behind": 1) Frame by frame shows his head knocked forward and down on impact, and watching frame by frame or at regular speed clearly shows those very visible pieces of skull go flying up and forward like little missiles.
2) the top right part of his head explodes out; the object by his right ear is a piece of skull attached to skin hanging down from the big hole in his head right above it. This can be seen in the autopsy photo, was mentioned in the autopsy report and was seen by Clint Hill.
3) Pieces of the head bullet were found in the limo to the front of Kennedy and even cracked the inside of the windshield.
4)With this head explosion, stuff flew back as well - as we know the motorcycle cop and agent Hill got splattered - but most went forward, and indeed, the Connallys always said they had been covered in it - and so was the front of the limo; windshield and hood.
Gross.
@@peterfraser9070 Thanks. What about the Coup de Grace headshot: Why does the biomatter cloud start at the front?
@@peterfraser9070 Disagree. Frame-by-frame from Z.313 onward shows a biomatter cloud start at the front right of JFK's head as it violently goes back and he slumps to the left. Kennedy never goes "forward" after the headshot in Z.313
Audio version is superb.
Just to give some alternative evidence in respect of Posner: He admitted to plagiarism. Given that so many witnesses were ridiculed for far less relevant reasons in 1963/64 it makes his viewpoint a bit of a joke, in that context only. When considering Posner and his views it is essential to know that he has both stolen information from established bases, and has manipulated details in scenarios in order to snugly fit evidence nice and snugly to his narrative
Such as
Mr. Oz Narrative, your little theory is just like that of a sore loser.
It would be interesting to see Posner debunk James Files.
James Files is an excellent fake, but still fake, he had nothing to do with the assassination.
"It would be interesting to see Posner debunk James Files."
That would be easy, since Files essentially debunked himself by making contradictory and provably false claims, most especially when he mindlessly repeated the silly myth of the "change" to the motorcade route that never happened.
@@Caeruleo .... Thats a minor thing. A thing he could have heard talked about by others. That's not something that pertains to his own actions.
Read Case Open by Harold Weisberg.
Why? Does he have new evidence not discussed by Posner? Does he address the overwhelming evidence against LHO? Or is he just a quick buck artist earning $ off the gullible?
ead Case Open by Harold Weisberg.: Not funny
@@peterfraser9070 It's not supposed to be funny.
@@paulrozoff4074 that's why it's so funny.
Why? He's one of the conspiracy writers!
This guy is the king of rationalizations !
@wendellrider1212 "Rationalizations" -as in _compelling reasons for_ Not to mention the solid evidence detailed by Posner which implicates Oswald and no other person or group. Disagree? Then you're the "king" of low-watt thinking.
Ive always been amazed how easily people believe conspiracy theories. I mean, they jump in head first and won't listen to reason. Some theories run laughable to bizarre. People shooting from the sewer to Jim Lavelles white suit.
Plenty of credible authors that dispute the lone gunman theory. For example Tom Hartman who concluded that mob was definitely involved. And plenty of unexplained facts that are not consistent with a lone gunman theory.
@@coreyham3753 I'm currently reading Gerald Posners book. He's a journalist and attorney. He does extensive research on Oswald. He is very methodical. He mentioned Tom Hartman and takes on his theories. I'll revisit this conversation once I finish his book.
@@artisaprimus6306 OK, fair enough. For me there are just way to many inconsistencies and physical impossibilities for the lone gunman claim to have much credibility.
@@coreyham3753 Yes, there's a lot of questions. Read Gerald Posner book. The first five or six chapters are just about Oswald and his life up to that point.
@@coreyham3753 Plenty of credible authors that dispute the lone gunman theory": What makes them "credible"?
plenty of unexplained facts": There's very little chance that they are actually "facts".
So, Ruby was just an impulsive guy with delusions of folk heroism???
Well...that certainly is an unsatisfying conclusion. ha
@@kimmartin6160 I think you wanted to reply to someone else. I don't buy into conspiracy theories and know that Oswald did it - and most likely all on his own.
@@peterfraser9070 Your Right In fact I agree with with your assessments However these guys do not play fair and resort to name calling But thanks for fighting the good fight
Yes.
Remember posner needs to have the large majority of his claims to be true for Oswald to be the lone assassin. But you only need to disprove a few to debunk it
Yes..no honest person could ever believe The Magic Bullet Theory.
No feeble minded person can understand the single bullet theory.
The funny thing about conspiracy theoroists ... they can't put together their own cohesive theory which makes any bit of sense ... they can only take pot shots at the lone gunman conclusion
@@wernerfoerster3666 you're exactly right. It's so easy to criticize any small part of the lone nut version of events. You dont need any proof refuting it, you can just say something like "if Oswald was the lone assassin that day why haven't they released all of the files?" Or "the fact that they haven't released all of the files tells you everything you need to know". They like using "they" a lot. It suggests the assassination was planned and pulled off by a huge number of conspirators from multiple organizations in and outside of the Government.
@@vernpascal1531 SBT.
A public, moderated debate is in order. I'm really looking forward to a deep dive into this book.
What kind of a deep dive into Case Closed are you hoping for?
@Peter fraser Something more convincing than Bugliosi. I am biased on this issue by years of reviewing the mountain of evidence, legal and otherwise.
@@marleyandme447 That's Gerald Posner who wrote Case Closed, not Bugliosi btw.
It's on-line now...ruclips.net/video/1oYHsicxdQg/видео.html&ab_channel=DavidVonPein%27sJFKChannel
The only conspiracy theory is the one Hoover put out on THE DAY of killing that it was: Oswald with 3 shots from the window. OH AND BTW, Oswald is a shooter is okay ... but the killer behind the stockade fence has to be "World Class." This is total inaccuracy.
You're right. The shooter behind the fence had to be invisible and firing an invisible gun with bullets that didn't hit anything.
"the killer behind the stockade fence": because a bullet MUST be the reason his head - no, his whole upper-body - went back like that? So dumb.
yeah thats why kennedys head explode
very bright
@@dend1961 I know, people can take a entry in the back of the head, a forward movement and forward-flying skull pieces above on impact - and the Connallys and front of car covered a lot more than rear - and try to turn it into a front or side shot. So sad.
Deluded steamer that you are, what a wanker!
Why haven’t the classified files which were supposed to be released multiple times and still not?
Iwould consider that the Zapruder film caught the conspiracy theorist ff guard Because they have for the last 30 yrs tried to get LHO out of that window because Oswald was already working at the TSBD LONG before the Texas trip is planned How would anyone get the motorcade to go by the tsbd for Oswald Has to be a horrible coincidence Also the clock doest start until Oswald pulls the first shot which would leave him two shots in about 8 seconds
100 percent CORRECT
@Baronarx V You mean the shot sequence The time clock cant start until he pulls the trigger on the 1st shot which he missed badly Straight down
man you are dumb. let me make this clear for you. the killers chose LHO to be the patsy. They chose the TSBD to be the kill site. Now they had to get both JFK and LHO to the same location at the same time. So Oswald, who they controlled because he was in their employ, was given a phoney baloney story that he was to take a job at the TSBD. He likely believed he was working undercover. That was the ruse to anchor the patsy to the kill site, owned by Harold Byrd, LBJ's friend I may add. Zapruder worked with DeMohrenschildt's wife and he was LHO's friend. See a pattern here? Once LHO was anchored to the kill site now they had to get Kennedy to Dallas. So they did that and just days before Nov 22, changed the route to swing by the TSBD where the unsuspecting patsy would be located. On Houston steet there is an oblesk, a sacrificial alter for the Illuminati and Free Masons. the highest degree of a free mason is 33rd. Deleay Plaza is 33 degrees latitude. You think that is by chance? Earl Warren was Free mason. So was John McCloy. Israel was the mastermind behind it. There is more going on here than people realize. JFK was feuding with the AZC and Israel just before he was killed. The AZC broke off talks on Aug 22, 1963 and did not resume talks until days after JFK was killed. Saying Oswald did this is a conclusion drawn by a 5 year old.
Then the govt will have no problem RELEASING THE REST OF THE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS 🤷♂️
They cannot do it, because they still feel that they cannot let the public know about the third shot that LHO fired at Jacqueline Kennedy. ruclips.net/video/Hg_QZOkX14I/видео.html
The motivator believing a conspiracy is very largely political. If you are an ardent left winger (like myself) or even a right winger who doesn’t trust any authority, you are motivated that either the right wing military industrial complex and CIA would stoop to conspiracy or a right wing distrust of the government (LBJ). That’s the driver!! I fell for it for 30 years
Thanks for the comment, Bill. You're right and it's something I discuss with Gerald. I can also understand people who lived it wanting the assassination to mean more, to have some people to punish because we were cheated of a trial and sentencing for Oswald. Plus, as often happens in these cases, everyone wants to conveniently blame the people they already hate. It's one reason I admire Republican Theodore Roosevelt. He could have made war on anarchists after Czolgosz killed McKinley, and there certainly was a backlash, but Emma Goldman -- who the assassin credited with inspiring her -- was allowed to stay, until it was Democrat Woodrow Wilson (who cast himself as a progressive) who threw her out for opposing the WWI draft. I think try to look objectively at all the facts and not let any bias taint my view of history, so I'm happy when I see people with different views enjoying the conversation. It means a lot.
Kennedy was hated by Dulles and a lot of the military and even considered a traitor over bay of pigs, Cuban missile crisis and deciding to withdraw from Vietnam
And the motive some people have for believing LHO did it alone is that they can’t stand the thought their government might have pulled a coup d’etat and gotten away with it.
So 1946-2000 we overthrew 81 countries. There is no party it’s the establishment uniparty. Which currently the Dems are war whores I listed military conflicts started by each recent president below.
George hw bush started 4 conflicts
Clinton: 5
Bush w: 7
Obama: 9
Trump: 0
Biden: 2
Really good and thorough discussion. Hard to find those on youtube or most places on the net these days!
Brilliant interview! Will be saving this to send to the next JFK conspiracist I come across 🙏
Oswald alone? This moron is speaking through his ass. Very narrow minded and an idiot.
You have your opinion. You make up
Your story ! It makes no sense.
That's what they do. This book is the equivalent of Popular Mechanics "Debunking 9/11 Myths."
Propagating the official narrative.
Make stuff up.
I'm no forensic scientist but my understanding is that each gun has certain rifling characteristics that are specific to it, justas each person has a unique set of fingerprints. The bullet fragments are examined under microscope to see if they are a match to the weapon.
Yes, and the bullet that struck President Kennedy and governor Conley was matched to Oswald’s rifle to the exclusion of all other firearms.
@@baronarxv9646 I don't think this is true. I also think there are other tests that will allow matching of bullets to a certain rifle.
@@baronarxv9646 No, I don't. Do you? Why don't you take the time to do some homework and find out for yourself, or are you too lazy?
@@baronarxv9646 Gen X, I'm 64. But I am curious: What's your point in all this? I'd just guess that you're a person who believes there was a conspiracy.
@@baronarxv9646 I'd also ask you this: Wasn't the bullet found on Connally's stretcher matched to Oswald's rifle?
Awful shame Jackie didn’t get him down and even slightly,she was checking his wound and if she’d even thought he’s a target he’d have lived…
How?
She couldn't have. Don't you know JFK wore a back brace? He couldn't duck or get down.
Lucky that smirking Lee did not explode the first ladies head !!!!!!!!!!!
@dks13827 Pretty hard to do from the 2nd floor lunch room where he was during the shooting. (As witnesses by Roy Truly and a cop within 90 seconds.)
@@kevinkeller6569 "Pretty hard to do from the 2nd floor lunch room where he was during the shooting. (As witnesses by Roy Truly and a cop within 90 seconds.)"
Wrong. Roy Truly and Officer Baker *never* said that Oswald was in the lunchroom *during* the shooting. And 90 seconds after the shooting is still plenty of time for Oswald to reach the lunchroom after firing the shots, since at an average speed of 3 mph (average walking speed for an adult human) he could have easily gotten to the lunchroom no more than 68 seconds after the final shot was fired, since it quite obviously would have not necessarily taken longer than 10 seconds, total, to hide the rifle where it was eventually found.
This book COMPLETELY changed my mind, and then RECLAIMING HISTORY backed it up. There was NO conspiracy
PS I saw Posner on TV selling this book in 1993, and I REFUSED to read it, and finally read it in 1996 "for a laugh" and it snapped me out of the conspiracy DELUSION
poor men your totaly off
@@dend1961 huh???
@@djf750 doesnt take much to change your mind
that book is total bullshit
faulty reason
at least 6 or 7 shots listen to james files the shooter on the grassy knoll head shot blows kennedy head with a remington fireball 222 mercury round
ruclips.net/video/XCNl-EL27HE/видео.html
@@dend1961 what are you talking about, do YOU have proof of a conspiracy WITH EVIDENCE??
Of course you don't
@@djf750 there are many go find it in the archives. If they left left some... nothing to archive in secrecy if there's a Lone assasin. That mind of yours can understand that simple fact... i guess no
They died to cover up the murder! DUH! Get real!
Posner makes a good point when he says you need to look at the lives of Oswald and Ruby to really get why the Warren Commission was right. Shortly after seeing the outlandish Oliver Stone film, i saw a 2-3 hr PBS documentary on the life of Oswald. When I saw that documentary, the lone gunman conclusion started to make a lot of sense.
Bare in mind. Oswald didn't defect to Russia. He was sent there. There is proof of that. The embassy in Mexico, that wasn't Oswald. Proof of that too. It was a setup by the CIA. Dead shot came from the front. Hence Oswald not the assassin. Fighting for justice for Marilyn JFK and Dorothy kilgallen. Watch that. By Mark Shaw. Facts facts facts.
One thing critics of the Warren Commission have in common is that none of them have read the report.
A PBS documentary???very biased.Same as some of this.
@@markdenison2356 Warren report is worth toilet paper. Go to the national archives instead. There is documented facts that were never brought infront of the Warren conspirators. Like the doctors at Parkland, their reports. And the fact that nobody anywhere could place Oswald at the Mexican embassy. Because he wasn't there. In fact, there is a report in the archives stating that J Edgar Hoover was making phone calls to the CIA that the man they had on camera claiming to be Oswald, in fact was not Oswald. The crux of the whole assassination is placing Oswald in Mexico city. Which can't be done.
Posner relieves on nothing else but the lone nut theory of Oswald. hence all his books and interviews concentrates on oswald being a "supposed" loser and being incredibly deranged. which is all made up evidence. the biggest loser in posner books is posner, and posner alone.
Lee Oswald didn't kill anybody. Gerald Posner called on Mark Lane to defend him. He said that even though he feels Oswald was the lone gunman, he had no doubt that if Mark Lane had defended him in court, Oswald would have been acquitted.
this is true
Oswald shot Kennedy. There is no other rational conclusion.
Only complete idiots believe that BULLSHIT!!!
@@rnm354 exactly right only idiots/ conspiracy morons could Believe there was more than one shooter. There's no other reasonable evidence to suggest otherwise. Thanks for agreeing with me Ron.
Jim.. you are a buffoon with not even one functioning braincell! Sit down and STFU!!!!
@@rnm354 Ron I'm saying give me an example of evidence I could research that implies there was more than once shooter. You don't have to curse me, I just would like you to provide a path to disprove That lee Harvey Oswald was the lone gunmen.
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You said 3 shots. But I just heard on the Zapruder film there were 5 shots, and the 3 and 4 are very close together. So?
"You said 3 shots. But I just heard on the Zapruder film there were 5 shots, and the 3 and 4 are very close together. So?"
You "heard" five shots on the Zapruder film? That's impossible, since the Zapruder film is a silent film.
@@Caeruleo That’s weird. There are no other videos?
@@sstarklite2181 "That’s weird."
Actually, it isn't. In 1963 very few home movie cameras had sound.
"There are no other videos?"
Other films were taken of the assassination, yes, such as the film by Marie Muchmore and the film by Orville Nix. But all were silent, as was typical of home movies at that time. In fact, there is no bonafide audio recording of the gunfire. Some people have mistakenly claimed that the Dallas Police Department dictabelt recording captured the sounds of the gunshots, but the evidence is overwhelming that it actually did not.
@@Caeruleo I remember now, they were saying they think there were 5 shooters from different directions, and 2 were at the same time as another so they said 5 shots in total. I’d have to try and find it though and don’t know if I can.
@@sstarklite2181 "I remember now, they were saying they think there were 5 shooters from different directions, and 2 were at the same time as another so they said 5 shots in total. I’d have to try and find it though and don’t know if I can."
I would suggest that whoever "they" is, they are more likely than not to be unreliable sources of information about the JFK assassination who have done poor research, or people who are biased and selective in their use of evidence. I have been studying this assassination for 35 years and I know perfectly well that it most definitely never yet been proven, certainly not in any conclusive and definitive way, that more than three shots were fired. Sure, I'll concede that it's *possible* that more than three were fired, but it is definitely nowhere near a genuinely proven fact that there were.
Please don't call people that want to seek the truth "Conspiracy Theorist" people, and that "anything that pops into their head is somehow true." That is ignorant.
I wonder how many hours these armchair conpiracy theorists have dedicated to studing the case and actually READING. Unless you have expended at least 120 hours of meaningful study, with legitimate sources, you have no business expressing ANY opinion. Once a person does that (assuming at least average intelligence) the vast majority will conclude LHO as lone gunman and no conspiracy. But here is the problem: people of low intelligence, not willing to dedicate more than 5 minutes to any given subject with an attention span of the same duration, being duped by the cottage conspiracy industry (Oliver Stone captaining the ship), AND having absolutely no qualms of shouting their ill informed, ignorant (in a literal sense) conclusions from their narcissistic rooftops.
but true
Almost no people who actually want to seek the truth are doing it by looking at CT books or docs. Anything written by a Jim Marrs or a Roger Craig is a dead end. Look at Posner and Bugliosi and really think on it. It'll be like waking up from a dream and realizing none of that CT stuff was real.
No it isn't. Any time you believe in conspiracy without evidence you are a conspiracy theorist by default.
It's been an official conspiracy since congress said it was in 1979
It's complicated becsuse the conspiracy theorists have made it that way. But basically it's a simple case. (Vincent Bugliosi)
Bugiosi hid the fact there were over 20 shots fired that day. Secret service Agent greer said there were so many shots it sounded like a swarm of bees.
@@michaelparks5669 Nonsense it wasn't Greer who was the driver. He did say that but when pressed by the WC he couldn't say there were more than two other shots. It always good to tell the whole story.
What about the facts that have come to light? This is one sided at best. Please read an unbiased author- to be fair
Read Posner's book; he addresses the phony so-called "facts", weighs them against the real facts, and he gives a fair and balanced result.
@@peterfraser9070 I respectfully disagree. There’s too many problems with every piece of evidence in my opinion.
Try reading the book. What are some examples of the so-called problems?
@michaelhoffman176 thank you!
Posner keeps talking about "scales" and balance. He may be a 'lawyer' but he needs a REAL HISTORY LESSON!!
Bugliosi’s book is a MUST.
It takes a bit of luck, i.e. "the stars align!"
How do you explain that all the Parkland doctors said that the lower back right of the skull was gone? Exit wound for sure
"all the Parkland doctors said that the lower back right of the skull was gone?": They didn't even say that! That's just a stupid CT story claiming the doctors said that.
The whole thing was missing Right upper looked like a canoe Thats day one with people under pressure trying to remember details
Where was the entry wound? It had to be somewhere in the front of Kennedy's face if the shot came from the front. I've never heard anyone claim that they saw a small round entry wound anywhere on Kennedy's face .(Entry wounds are small, exit wounds are large.)
The supposedly "smoking gun" Zupruder film is actually ironclad evidence that the shot came from behind. When watched carefully in slow motion, one can see an explosion of blood and brain matter in FRONT of Kennedy's head. That is strong evidence that the exit wound was in the top front part of Kennedy's head, as the commission found. Had the shot been from the front that explosion of blood should have been BEHIND Kennedy's head.
Watch at 16:45 and especially at 44:50: ruclips.net/video/0vQfXAp4sF4/видео.html
@@peterfraser9070 ruclips.net/video/fTPAYVEl4LY/видео.html
Oswald was smirking about this. He would not have had he hit Jackie by mistake !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Case reopened..
Focusing on Az as the knoll shooter.
Who?
30 people within 50 feet of the grassy knoll and no one saw anyone
and Santa Claus as the storm drain shooter
Dean this channel is an amazing resource. Congratulations.
I appreciate that! Thank you.
this channel is totaol false
stupid peolple like it of course it say what they want to
crazy world
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He's wrong shot in back then less than 2 seconds a head shot no way .its impossible. I was a MARINE for 6 yrs he had the skill but not the time.zapruder show both shots no way its impossible to get 2 aimed shots just no way
It’s not less than 2 seconds though. Donald Bellisario was in the Marines with Oswald. Said he could easily have done it.
Charles Nicoletti shot from dal tex 5 shots
frame of windshielsd, concrete hit Tague, bad round it kennedys back enter half inch, hit Conally, hit the back of kennedys head
1 shot from book depository, hit sewer end in the grass (that shot is to pull attention on book depository)
1 shot from grassy knoll south, hit the windshield and kennedys trhoat, kennedys hand reach is throat
because the 1st signal of pain to the brain is the entrance
if kennedy would of been hit from behind, his hands would of open , not closing is hand to reach is throat
1 final shot, from grassy knoll north, hit to the temple and blow the back head off, mercury round, explosif
thats James Files
Absolute nonsense; funny joke
@@peterfraser9070 It's not funny at all how do you explain the Mercury found in JFK's brain cavity ????? That's what's used in an exploding bullet. And I suppose JFK's head defied the laws of physics and jerked violently to the rear because the shot came from the rear huh ???? You can make all the laws you want bro you can't change the laws of physics. Like the bullet hole in the windshield that entered from the front Anybody with any reasonable knowledge of gunshots knows that. And before you go talk shit, which I know you're gonna do, the head trauma nurse at parkland hospital is on film saying there's a bullet hole in the windshield from front to back and it's still on RUclips today.
@@SuperErikRoss No, you're right, it's certainly not funny - stupid is what it is. Watch 1) his head go forward and 2) pieces ABOVE his head go forward on impact. You don't get to ignore that. ruclips.net/video/FweaPer1YbQ/видео.html
The Connallys always said they were covered in you-know-what and so was the front of the car - and obviously some went back too. The two bullets that hit JFK and JBC both came from Oswald's rifle.
This stuff about Nicoletti, Files - and Wallace too, no doubt, storm drains, 2 Oswalds, a Mauser, a "badgeman" is quite nauseating.
@@peterfraser9070 please dont say the head go forward
its very easy to see the head goes bacward
the policemen behing is splsch with brain matters and blood
james files une a remington fire bas 222 shell mercury round explosive
its normal that at the impact, specially from a mercury rounds, even a normal round,
that some of the blood and matters goes forward
but dont say the head is going forward your totaly out of your mind or lie
why miss kennedy goes on the car suitcase?
she took a piece of the brain , and later give it to a doctor at parkland hospital
not to get away like some idiot said
hope you dont think she or the doctors lies??
why would they lie, absolutely non sense
absolutely no reason for them to lie
hope you dont think that
johnson , hoover cia
have a tons of reason to lie
batesda autopsy contradict what the most reputate doctor of parkland said, its so evident, to see whos lying
but may be not for faulty or emotions state of mind people
im very impress that you say the head goes forward
its on zapruder film
a ball is falling you gonna say its going up and you really beleive that? no, tell me your that kind of person?
that very very faulty reason if so
thats too much for me
@@dend1961 Watch 1) his head go forward and 2) pieces ABOVE his head go forward on impact.
ruclips.net/video/FweaPer1YbQ/видео.html
The Connallys always said they were covered in brain matter and blood, and so was the front of the car, including the hood and front windshield. In the Z Film you can see it was a big head explosion; of course some went back too.
I love that Posner tries to paint Ruby as a grieved fan of JFK. That is hilarious. The Strip Club Owner with deep ties to the Mob was just so upset about the assassination of JFK, (mind you that all his buddies were being investigated by RFK) that he chose to sneak into the garage. and kill Oswald (He had less than a 10-second window to do that) Posner knows how ridiculous this claim is.
This video is why Posner's theory is an impossibility. There was a burst of shots: ruclips.net/video/0rqcjLMAk0g/видео.html
Deceitful comment. All the witnesses in Dealey Plaza said the shots were sequential and not in a burst.
@@radar0412 - No, now you're lying son. And you still haven't figured out a comeback to all those witness testimonies because you know you can't. You don't have to lie son, you're not really going to convince anyone anyway, people have seen the same evidence you have, it's just that they don't choose to ignore so much of it like you have.
If you ever come up with something good that contradicts all those witnesses, I'd be glad to consider it.
@Ghostdancer Your beloved conspiracy fantasies have long been bursted, except you seem the last to know it. You were "in school" back then, and you're still in school, unable to grasp the plain truth of the Kennedy case.
They've done the acoustic tests several times. They know they were only three shots AND they know where they came from.
@@bryanmachin3738 - "They done"? Who are you, Jed Clampit? LOL
Plenty of teams have done acoustic tests and found there were more than 3. Plenty of witnesses heard more than 3.
And simultaneous shots would sound like one shot to most folks.
Agent Kellerman himself testified the limo he was riding in was hit "with a flurry of shells".
How many shots do you suppose are in a "flurry of shells" son? Is it just 3 evenly spaced shots coming in one at a time, separated by several seconds do you think?
Give it up son, no one still believes the politician's story.
This is a nit picky comment. I was in the first grade. My teacher also happened to be the principal. She was called out of the room and then made the announcement over the p.a. that the president had been shot and school was being dismissed. So, yes, the idea that a classroom of children cheered the president's assassination seems preposterous on the face of it. But as for announcements over the p.a., it happened at least once.
Thanks for commenting. It’s not nitpicky. The story was in that school just the president was dead was cheered. They only announced school was cancelled. Rather pushed that to spin a narrative.
@@historyauthorshow Thanks for the reply. Thanks to RUclips I've gone back and watched live news coverage of the JFK assassination and other dramatic events like the Challenger explosion, the assassination attempt on Reagan, 9/11, et. al. Whatever else Rather's skill as a journalist may be, he has a habit, when doing unscripted reporting, of misreporting what has previously been reported and, frankly, just making stuff up. I'm sure it's a challenging job being a live conduit of breaking news with information coming in from multiple directions. But Rather seems to have that problem more than others.
I was in 6th grade at the time and this is exactly how we found out, over the pa system. But history author is right about Rather. The Texas children were told they were going home early but no reason given, so they cheered. School thought it best to have parents tell them. Rather reported it as if the children were told JFK was shot and they cheered.
Oswald must be the most cold SOB assasin in human history to remain so calm.... pleeease. What a funny argument are these
You think you know that?
He was calm and not a hard shot Ashot one inch this way or that jfk would be missed or just wounded hE GOT REAL LUCKY
Watch some true crime shows. Many killers and sociopaths are cool as cucumbers when talking to police.
All presidential assassins were calm. Every one. Even the ones who failed. But somehow only in Oswald could such a detail be imagined as proof.
@@historyauthorshow Oswald being a cool cucumber is not the proof he did it. Apparently, he was also calm when confronted by Marion Baker and Roy Truly right after he did the dirty deed.
This case will never be closed. We will still be hearing about it long after anyone who was alive in '63 is gone. The "official" version will prevail.
And Posener's book prevails too, fortunately.
@@peterfraser9070 And no one will know that the two attending physicians said that he had a 5 inch diameter exit wound in the back of his head.
@@terrythomas8486 Because they didn't say that. There was a large broken part of his skull on the right side of his head, from the entry wound to the exit wound, held on by his scalp. You could open and close it. That's the large pink mass that obscures JFK's face in the frame immediately after he is hit in the head on the Zapruder film.
@@klrdotorg The damage to the right side of his head was as you describe. And yes the attending Physicians also described an exit wound 5 inches in diameter in the back of his skull.
How he was still alive seems incredible to me. His brain was literally blown away.
Anyone who has read all of the major books or watched the documentaries on the subject and still believes in conspiracy theories, are probably liable to believe in the Easter Bunny. They can’t even agree on where the second or third shooter was and who was involved. It’s understandable for the general public not to be able to have an educated view on it, but someone who has actually studied the facts?
They want it to make sense and the only way to do that is a conspiracy.
And, YOU obviously lack any functioning braincells!!!!
Fan of case closed are you? Something wrong with the warren report?
@@AMC2283 The Warren Report was ALWAYS a fake conclusion in search of BULLSHIT FABRICATED pieces that only morons would buy into!
Oswald said he was a patsy. Then he is killed before he can defend himself in a trial. If there was no other evidence, the lone gunman theory would always be suspect. But the is more evidence of a conspiracy. Sixty years of research by theorists.