The Difference Between Hasselblad XCD Lenses (from $1000 P lens to $5900 E lens and the V between!)
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- An overview of what the difference is between all those confusing names: P, V and E!
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P = "pocket change"
V = " very expensive"
E = "excuse me, how much??"
Lok. “You go to functions with your Hasselblad“ 😂😂😂😂
Great fun and informative video! Got most of that gear and moved on from Leica, especially the 907 (the grip is weird though!) else pretty much nailed it! 👍🏻
To clarify X series is the X1D, X1DII, X2D and future generations, V is the 907x + CFV50c or CFV100c and future generations. The V system allows the back to be attached to any V mount including any Hasselblad 6X6 camera from 1959, and other technical mounts like Linhof, Cambo, Arca, Alpa, Sinar, Fuji GX680 and others, although with some mounting options you may be restricted to ES shutter only. All lenses are X or V mounted. The X2D now has IBIS, the CFV does not, this means the X2D can do 402mp (tethered only), but the CFV cannot. All lenses have central leaf shutters, all the new XCDv lenses have a front ring diameter of 72mm except the 20-35 zoom which is 77mm. All older XCD lenses will fit both cameras. There are other differences such as the P lenses do not have a dedicated aperture ring. The new XCD lenses have a faster shutter than the older lenses. The XCD 90mm 2.5 was tested in a lab and was found to be one of the sharpest lenses ever made. You can still use both cameras with older HC lenses, or older V lenses via an adaptor and still retain the leaf shutter of those lenses. And it's never mentioned by anyone but strobe or flash can be mounted as Hass use Nikon protocols - there are 1 or 2 older Nikon flashes which will not work this way. Profoto or Godox strobes or triggers fit perfectly. And lastly the 907xCFV100c has some big differences over the 50c, dedicated strobe mount, improved switch to remove the back, flippy screen - improved power button and very, very, very lastly beware of the optic finder accessory - there are two available depending on which lenses you have - old XCD or new XCDv.
So you're saying it's not a professional camera system but a compatibility minefield :)
Clarifications: the only lenses with a high speed leaf shutter (1/4000s) are the 25V, 28P, and 90V. *Every* other XCD lens released to date, including all "original" XCD lenses *and* the newer 75P and 20-35E, have a 1/2000s leaf shutter.
The "dedicated aperture ring" that you refer to is a control ring - it can be mapped to control ISO, aperture, shutter speed, exposure compensation, or to switch between faces when using face detect autofocus.
You *can* mount HC lenses - via two (official) adaptors, one of which is a 0.8x speed-booster - but "full" compatibility is not universal. Every HC lens works optically with aperture control and leaf shutter. However, _autofocus_ requires a lens firmware which is only supported by a revised version of the lenses. (These revisions also have a 1/2000s leaf shutter, instead of 1/800.) Any "orange dot" HC lens is compatible, but only a small number of the "non orange dot" lenses are.
Other adapted lenses, via the XV adapter, *do not* retain leaf shutter functionality. You're forced into using electronic shutter. This is not ideal, because the enormous sensor takes a small eternity to read out, so it's very prone to rolling shutter.
@@soupfork2105 The "compatibility minefield" only comes with adapted lenses. Any XCD lens will mount and function as intended on any XCD camera. Any Nikon i-TTL compatible flash will work with TTL.
@ I'm a Pro 35 years - Hass all the way - Fuji offer a better complete system but Hass for quality - Hass - everything is compatible - no minefield
@ Other adapted lenses, via the XV adapter, do not retain leaf shutter functionality. You're forced into using electronic shutter. This is not ideal, because the enormous sensor takes a small eternity to read out, so it's very prone to rolling shutter. PC socket to 3.5mm should take care of leaf shutter would it not?
I just travelled for three months with the X1 DII and 45p and 65mm lenses. It's a pretty ergonomic set up. The 45p lens is very, very good actually. All of this is becoming quite affordable slightly used. You can find the 45p lens for around £800 and the X1 DII for just over £2000.
my dream camera
Guys, I get Waldorf & Statler vibes. And marketing allergy - if it fits on 127 film, then it's small format (127 film had 36mm usable width).
Also my "Linear versus Area" optical nerve is stimulated.We measure resolution in a unit of length (linear unit) like DPI or PPI or LinePairs per millimetre. But MP are an AREA unit. If you want to double resolution you need to go to the linear unit. Doubling a sensor's resolution from X*Y=MP gives you 2X*2Y=4MP. Yes, MP predict file size and required processing power. That's it.
What's more important for sharpness/resolution is if the camera has an OLPF.
In the case of Nikon, we see they Eliminated the OLPF for their first time in the D800E version of the D800. Check the impact of having one or not in the DxOMark data - find the sharpest F-mount full frame lens and compare its sharpness between measured on D800 (36MP with OLPF) versus D800E (36MP OLPF Eliminated).
For the effect of MP, compare between a 24MP and D800 (both with OLPF) as well as between D800E and D850 (both no OLPF).
It's not as impressive as you may think. Then become aware that e.g. Nikon's 20Mp APS-C cameras like D500 or Z 50 have no OLPF because their photosite density is comparable to the 45MP full frame cameras. And that's a violation of "ceteris paribus" in a comparison between 24MP FX and 20MP DX. And explains why the 20MP images are "surprisingly good".
Linear comparison, and ceteris paribus cures the marketing vibes.
When you print on, say, A1, what difference would you see? Another channel went there and the result was surprising. Most people could not even see that an image stemmed from 2MP. Folk had difficulties seeing the difference between that and very high MP.
My thoughts go back to "pro photographer and shitty camera" but still getting great images. If the format has no copyright claims, repeat. It's about the results, not the tool.
I struggled at first with this comment - but read it several times and have come to the conclusion that you are right!!!!
The older lens such as the 65mm are optically better than the newer 55mm 2.5 even if they are slower and bigger. Some compromises had to be made for the size and weight improvements. 8:40 no it’s not they have a 35-75. (You can still buy it online) Which you did mention later mind you
Can’t say I got a lot from this video. Kai you are a great presenter and I’ve followed you quietly since your early days but a lot of these videos seem almost just on the spot, rushed, almost incoherent and sometimes you don’t even research what you are talking about.. I’ll keep watching you but maybe a little change in your style might help as you get older 👍🏻
Needed to include the older xcd 21, 30, 45, 65, 80, 90, 120, 135
14:22 I like the conclusion... ~2500 for a medium format point and shoot is not the worst. Add a flash and you can go full artsy photographer.
The E should have an optional tripod mount to make it easier to work with.
Hello Kal W, I do not know why so many people just have never like Hasselblad cameras. For me I have been a Hasselblad user and owner since the 1980, I now have bot the X1D and X2D C100 with 6 of there XCD lens, and the results I get are just stunning. But this type of camera dose not suit all types of photography. I use my for studio and landscapes mostly and the I use in at functions where I need the image quality to be very good, when a use it with the ProPhoto flashes. But when I am shooting wildlife and sport events I switch to my Nikon Z9 or Z8. Please stop just saying Hasselblad are so expensive they are cheaper the most Leica systems or PhaseOne systems.
You can have a focus distance/aperture scale on a zoom lens, I think it's on a lot of 1970s/1980s zooms.
P stands for 'Plebeian' 😂
I’m going to have to get an orange jacket to match my X2D shutter button 😀
907x looks so cool until you try to take vertical photos. X2D makes more sense to me in practical use and 907x is just pretentious.
3:30 I share the confusion about the line-up. I thought the wide angle digital one wasn't interchangeable also. Don't really need to look it up because I'll never buy any of this stuff anyway
@Kai If you pay for the old 907X 50c, it does video.
Love the video take
Sorry to bring my "Cheap" problem on your rich video lol
Need your help on this one please!
So my Nikon d5300 LCD got blanked and it will cost about 180 USD for repairs.
I mostly shoot landscapes and astro with Tokina 11-16mm and 50mm prime lens in harsh weather conditions of Himalayas.
Looking for upgrade, my requirement are:
1) Good Battery life
2) Weather sealed, robust but lightweight body
3) Cheap (Under 1000 USD including a wide lens)
4) Looking for great photography dslr and dont expect great video capabilities
Which camera would you recommend?
How about Nikon d7500 which would be compatible with my current lenses as well?
Or would you recommend anything else? Any Canon/ Sony apsc (I will have to sale my lenses in that case)
Thanks in advance!
I mean, the GFX second-hand is the best way to get into a digital medium format the 100s I've seen for as little as 2800 $ with tax.
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swc+cfv 100c ??
Where is lambii
you can have any lens you want unless it's a real telephoto, standard zoom or macro.
P for poor
"P" is for PEASANT...
… 😄 have fun with the new camera that Hasselblad gave you for free for your promotion on RUclips. 👍🏻
Very cool
Its accessible for everybody with 8 grand to spend on body only.
You can get a lightly used X1DII for around £2000. Most of the lenses are crazy expensive however.
● Hasselblad X2D & Nikon Z9, Nikon F6..desirable cameras
Sighs... lotto win needed.
Like you need them to take good pics :D
Still more than happy with my a7r ii lol
@@brianc5581Need and want are two different things.
Still as hilarious as ever
Alphabet soup!
LEICA is for those who wants to LOOK rich...Hasselblad is for those who ARE rich!!! 🤣
Up the stoney
Hello Guys, please Kai translate video to Romanian or Russian please !!!
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I’m too poor to watch this video lol
Unless you really need the higher flash sync speed from the leaf shutter lenses, your money goes a lot further in the Fujifilm GFX medium format system.
no, you won't get hasselblad natural color science and can't mimic it even after hours in lightroom
Well you'll get different colour then
I like the look of some of the film emulations offered by Fujifilm. When I shoot landscape with the GFX 100s I often end up using one of those as the basis of the color in the image. For RAW images, Adobe does a decent job of matching the camera versions in ACR in the “camera matching” color profiles.
Hasselblads, especially in the digital age, are completely over-rated. Proof of this is how much degradation in price occurs in the used market. They are the Rolex brand of cameras.
The ergonomics of modern Hasselblad cameras is very poor. I’ve rented a view of their systems now, just to experience shooting with them myself. The image quality if lovely (obviously), but they are the most awkward, weighty and cumbersome cameras to use in the field. Basically you’re using a tripod, as handheld, Hasselblad makes no sense at all. I think you’re better off (ergonomically and financially) going mirror less/full frame/high megapixel count, with almost no downside re image quality, unless you’re really pixel peeping and all of the upsides of modern mirrorless.
I took the X1DII on tour across several countries at the end of 2024. It's actually very ergonomic and easy to carry all day. Hand held is fine. I used it like a street camera (with the 45p lens). The main downside is the auto-focus performs poorly. But your two main criticisms I can't see at all. There image quality and colours are superb, but you miss more shots than a Sony or Fuji due to the auto-focus and bad low light performance.
Totally disagree, the ergonomics of the X2D are some of the best I’ve ever experienced. When my wife casually picked it up, her first comment was how nice it was to hold, how she expected it to be difficult and heavy. I’ve spent hours walking around with it in hand with zero issues.
wont sell my a7 iv
What a chaotic video. This is not funny anymore. This style of "reviews" is not hip anymore. You have to mature. It is not 2010 anymore. Please prepare the next review better, otherwise you are wasting our time.
Found the Hasselblad-owning dentist
if you have the ukraine flag on your profile picture, your opinion does not count
@@frul Your comment sais everything about about your intelligence.
@@dirk.4711 says a man who can't even spell "says" right 😂😂😂
@frul Again, you show your limited capabilities. How many languages do YOU speak, by the way?