At least during the Cold War, both West and East (Soviet Union), despite ideological differences and political trying to outmanoeuvre each other, there were times when they were willing to co-operate and work together, (space exploration) unlike today where the leaders are totally dicks both sides that respond impulsively and use social media etc. to manipulate the masses.
One thing I liked about the James Bond movies is, while the Cold War played a huge part with its setting, the Soviets were rarely the antagonist, and sometimes even assisted Bond.
In "Octopussy," the good general was right. Heck, Russia couldn't take Ukraine in two weeks, so how the heck could they conquer Western Europe in five days?
One is Fiction from a movie, the other is actual reality, a slow bit by bit take over of eastern Ukraine, and only using a small fraction of what they have...
The USSR wasn't just Russia, it included the Ukraine and a number of other countries. It was a lot more formidable, and had satellite states throughout Eastern Europe- even the likes of Finland and Austria, which were not officially Communist, had to work their domestic policy around Soviet wishes.
It’s weird how Gogol isn’t considered a “main” character, when he’s appeared in so many of the movies. Originally The Living Daylights was supposed to have Gogol instead of Pushkin, which I suspect would have made him more remembered since it was such a large role, but in the end he was too sick to play it
It would certainly have been a lot more meaningful if it was that character with all of the history behind him. John Rhys-Davies did great as a successor, though.
Always appreciated his gesture of professional respect and decency in preventing his bodyguard from shooting Bond over the cypher machine. Plus his sense of humour in the face of losing his prize. One of my favourite Bond scenes.
For Your Eyes Only makes for a good double feature with From Russia With Love because SPECTRE aspect aside, the plots are inverses: In FRWL Bond steals a Soviet piece of Hardware, in FYEO he has to keep a British piece of hardware away from the Soviets.
@@davidw.2791 In the 70's and 80's the Bond producers recycled several plots. "Spy" and "Moonraker" are some sort of remakes of "You only live twice", "Eyes" uses the basic plot of "Russia" and "A View to a Kill" uses the basic plot of "Goldfinger".
A genuinely likable character, someone with dignity, determination and a friendly charm. His character demonstrates that being good or bad isn't so much about what side you are on, good or bad by association, as it is about what person you are.
I love this character. He's obviously a significant rival, and a powerful figure of a dictatorship, but you can't help but respect him; even like him. Unlike many antagonists/rivals, he doesn't have mindless bloodlust or plans for world domination. He could have Bond killed at nearly any time, but he not only doesn't have him killed, but he even helps him (when it benefits the USSR of course). He might be the most moderate character in the series. The icing on the cake is that he not only reappears with the same portrayal, but has a similar agenda and set of actions. My favorite scenes of his are when he feels sad for Anya's loss, and when he confronts Zoran for his attempt on Bond and his various other actions. I don't think we'll ever get another side antagonist/rival like him again, in terms of writing, acting, character, and visual. "No one ever leaves the KGB."
Oh, there are some. But it's a funny relationship- China makes most of our stuff, which the USSR didn't. The USSR had international ideological appeal while today's China doesn't so much.
@@thursoberwick1948 I think China approach was more, they thought if China was let into the international community and free market it would turn Democratic on its own... interesting i guess. But thats the idea from Nixon, Clinton and so forth.
Even today in the middle of a war between Ukraine and Russia, Nato and Russia still have hotlines to each to avoid misunderstanding and to communicate. Even with all the sanctions on Russia, the West and Russia in particular despite the retrict from the politicians about actually wanting to destroy one another and expelling diplomats neither the USA or Russia for example have actual broken off diplomatic relations because they still need to talk to each other about issues same with China. Politicians may give the orders and talk crap, but its the military brass that ensures escalations don't happen because their best placed.
One small scene from "The Spy Who Loved Me" is missing: Towards the very end, when they recover the underwater escape pod, and both M and Gogol see 007 and TripleX in bed together through the window before the shade is lowered.
It would’ve been great if Gogol was in the living daylights instead of Pushkin, that would’ve made it a lot more satisfying for gogol to have a bigger role and play a key part of the story, for continuity’s sake
Well two: General Orlov in Octopussy got shot on his orders. and Georgi Koskov likely got his wig split by Gogol and Pushkin at the end of The Living Daylights; taking turns splitting his wig before they ultimately kill him.
4:57 Good even a man at his age can get some tail action. Wouldn’t surprise me if he still got that charm from being a 007 of Russia back in his younger days
As Bond implied in the Lecktor description in From Russia With Love, even M was no stranger to getting some at an older age. He and Bond engaged in debauchery. He made Moneypenny shut that recording off and fast.
Ask Zorin and Koskov. I'm pretty sure won't be easy to ask. Because they're dead. Well Zorin is. Not sure if they did ship Koskov off in a body bag with a diplomatic seal of approval.
The actor playing a Soviet official beside Gogol at 7:17 so resembles Leonid Brezhnev, it seems they included him as a reference to Brezhnev during the cold war. While General Orlov (Steven Berkoff) looks like a stand in for Putin.
When Octopussy was filmed, Brezhnev was still the leader of the Soviet Union. However, by the time the movie was released, Brezhnev had died and succeeded by Yuri Andropov, the real-life General Gogol, head of the KGB from 1967 to 1982.
General Orlov mentions "The new Kutuzov Computer" - Field Marshall Kutuzov was a Russian commander who fought against the Ottomans and then Napoleon, who was wounded in action twice and survived against seemingly impossible odds - he deserves to have military equipment named after him.
Walter Gotell, along with Desmond Llewellyn (Q), Lois Maxwell (Miss Moneypenny), and Bernard Lee (M), helped make the Bond franchise into the most endearing and longest running movie series of all time. Well done all!!
@@bhutochakrabarti4173 He looks a bit like Gorbachev, although I think that similarity was only played up later on. He shares with Gorbachev a commitment to the USSR, but also no desire for full on nuclear war.
Very professional General, despite ideological differents he was willing to share the microfilm of the tracking system with the British, he could have been a prick or dick and just outright said "Weren't sharing it!" "It's ours, we recovered it."
I always liked Gogol as a respectful adversary to Bond, and yet, not wishing to be an enemy. He may represent a different side, often an opposing side, but he's not an evil man, not a power freak, a tyrant seeking death and conquest. And his interactions with Bond show that he truly cares about peace in the world and is willing to work alongside Bond and MI6 to achieve it, with no cost of dignity or loyalty to his own country. His moment in For Your Eyes Only was amusing when he laughed in understanding after Bond destroyed the ATAC, which kept the peaceful status quo. And his later appearance of awarding Bond the Order of Lenin was a very gracious gesture, showing how much Gogol had come to respect Bond, since his heroics not only benefited the West, but also the Soviet side, as well.
Especially Gogol's quip at the end of AVTK about not wanting Silicon Valley to be destroyed by Zorin a former KGB agent because "Soviet research" and Soviet interests would be affected despite throughout the film, Soviet intentions of Silicon Valley is sketchy and a a mystery, meaning their microchip installation in Siberia, Bond raided was full of shit technology to begin and they relied on Western technology. 😂😂
The Kill James Bond podcast, which is very critical of the films as a whole, has a lot positive to say about Gogol. The presentation of the KGB as a worthy, honourable adversary (rather than a maniacal "bad guy") in the Cold War movies is something that is missing from a lot of action films more recently. You never got an American movie depicting Al-Qaeda the same way these films did the USSR, where they might be shooting each other but the leaders on each side were both rational and intelligent people.
1:35 "It had not escaped our notice that you and Agent Barsov had been more than friends for some time...I'm very sorry!" The tone in his voice is heartbreaking
They forgot the best scene from the Spy Who Loved Me. The one after Bond and XXX were recovered in the escape pod were Bond goes keeping the British End Up Sir
There are one or two Russian actors in the Bond series. One of the ones who springs to mind is Richard Marner - he appears as a space controller in one of the films. Fluent Russian speaker and family left because of the Revolution
He plays Morzeny in that film. Same actor, different character. Morzeny is a brute, while Gogol is more of a reasonable rival and has no desire for all out war with the west
General Gogol is what M should have been and finally became in Goldeneye : an important character whose agents can rely on and who doesn't spend all his time behind a desk but comes when it's necessary.
One of the better supporting characters. The calm and collected head of the KGB during the Cold War era.
At least during the Cold War, both West and East (Soviet Union), despite ideological differences and political trying to outmanoeuvre each other, there were times when they were willing to co-operate and work together, (space exploration) unlike today where the leaders are totally dicks both sides that respond impulsively and use social media etc. to manipulate the masses.
One thing I liked about the James Bond movies is, while the Cold War played a huge part with its setting, the Soviets were rarely the antagonist, and sometimes even assisted Bond.
@@psychedeliccarrie5921 Vote Thunderbolts!
In "Octopussy," the good general was right. Heck, Russia couldn't take Ukraine in two weeks, so how the heck could they conquer Western Europe in five days?
One is Fiction from a movie, the other is actual reality, a slow bit by bit take over of eastern Ukraine, and only using a small fraction of what they have...
@@azazelzel6954 While which most of the Russian arms are either outdated, obsolete or not fit to fly, float or otherwise.....
@@nigelbevan8449 That was the case 20 years ago, but not now.
The USSR wasn't just Russia, it included the Ukraine and a number of other countries. It was a lot more formidable, and had satellite states throughout Eastern Europe- even the likes of Finland and Austria, which were not officially Communist, had to work their domestic policy around Soviet wishes.
Eh?
Their debate wasn't about whether or not the USSR could win, it was about not risking nuclear war.
It’s weird how Gogol isn’t considered a “main” character, when he’s appeared in so many of the movies. Originally The Living Daylights was supposed to have Gogol instead of Pushkin, which I suspect would have made him more remembered since it was such a large role, but in the end he was too sick to play it
Indeed. A damn shame.
Gotells first film was We Dive At Dawn 1944. He died in June 1997.
I liked Pushkin as a character. A worthy successor
It would certainly have been a lot more meaningful if it was that character with all of the history behind him. John Rhys-Davies did great as a successor, though.
Gogol still appears in The Living Daylights during the ending scene though.
Always appreciated his gesture of professional respect and decency in preventing his bodyguard from shooting Bond over the cypher machine.
Plus his sense of humour in the face of losing his prize.
One of my favourite Bond scenes.
For Your Eyes Only makes for a good double feature with From Russia With Love because SPECTRE aspect aside, the plots are inverses: In FRWL Bond steals a Soviet piece of Hardware, in FYEO he has to keep a British piece of hardware away from the Soviets.
@@davidw.2791 In the 70's and 80's the Bond producers recycled several plots. "Spy" and "Moonraker" are some sort of remakes of "You only live twice", "Eyes" uses the basic plot of "Russia" and "A View to a Kill" uses the basic plot of "Goldfinger".
The funny scene in the car is missing from a View to a Kill. He listens to that tape Pola Ivanova acquired.
And that spy character was originally supposed to be Anya Amasova but Barbara Bach didn't want to reprise her role
Love General Gogol. A very effective heroic antagonist to Bond. He should have had his own spinoff book thrillers
A genuinely likable character, someone with dignity, determination and a friendly charm. His character demonstrates that being good or bad isn't so much about what side you are on, good or bad by association, as it is about what person you are.
I love this character. He's obviously a significant rival, and a powerful figure of a dictatorship, but you can't help but respect him; even like him. Unlike many antagonists/rivals, he doesn't have mindless bloodlust or plans for world domination. He could have Bond killed at nearly any time, but he not only doesn't have him killed, but he even helps him (when it benefits the USSR of course). He might be the most moderate character in the series. The icing on the cake is that he not only reappears with the same portrayal, but has a similar agenda and set of actions. My favorite scenes of his are when he feels sad for Anya's loss, and when he confronts Zoran for his attempt on Bond and his various other actions. I don't think we'll ever get another side antagonist/rival like him again, in terms of writing, acting, character, and visual.
"No one ever leaves the KGB."
Gogol is a great reminder that while the West had backchannels to the Soviet Union, we really don't have that as much with China now
Oh, there are some. But it's a funny relationship- China makes most of our stuff, which the USSR didn't. The USSR had international ideological appeal while today's China doesn't so much.
@@thursoberwick1948 I think China approach was more, they thought if China was let into the international community and free market it would turn Democratic on its own... interesting i guess. But thats the idea from Nixon, Clinton and so forth.
@@matrix91234 Accurate assessment. Now they have millionaires but millions of Muslims under lock and key.
Even today in the middle of a war between Ukraine and Russia, Nato and Russia still have hotlines to each to avoid misunderstanding and to communicate. Even with all the sanctions on Russia, the West and Russia in particular despite the retrict from the politicians about actually wanting to destroy one another and expelling diplomats neither the USA or Russia for example have actual broken off diplomatic relations because they still need to talk to each other about issues same with China. Politicians may give the orders and talk crap, but its the military brass that ensures escalations don't happen because their best placed.
This actor has been around since from Russia, at the opening pre sequence, introducing killer grant, and having the spike shoes.
Magnificent work, Comrade Bond!
One small scene from "The Spy Who Loved Me" is missing:
Towards the very end, when they recover the underwater escape pod, and both M and Gogol see 007 and TripleX in bed together through the window before the shade is lowered.
Should have won several best supporting actor awards.
Gogol is that antagonist that isn’t even evil or a villain. Greatest antagonist in movie history.
Gogol is so cool he even have Dolph Lundgren as a bodyguard.
So max zorin and mayday were two missing genetically engineered beings from khan's "supermen?" 😆
i enjoyed the way that he portrayed Col morzeny = ( or maybe real life kraut
SS Col otto skorzeny ) spector # 2'
from Russia with love
It would’ve been great if Gogol was in the living daylights instead of Pushkin, that would’ve made it a lot more satisfying for gogol to have a bigger role and play a key part of the story, for continuity’s sake
Unfortunately Gotell was not very well at the time, so had to be written out.
The role was for gogol but the actor was very ill for the roll
Gogol was in The Living Daylights at the end
0 dislikes! It should stay like that!
Well two: General Orlov in Octopussy got shot on his orders. and Georgi Koskov likely got his wig split by Gogol and Pushkin at the end of The Living Daylights; taking turns splitting his wig before they ultimately kill him.
Dislikes are no longer displayed- mainly due to, ahem, problems with certain videos being posted up during Covid restrictions.
@@chrismc410 Well Orlov was legit evil, and reason he got shot was because he deserted.
RUclips removed its dislikes !!!
7:27
Edit: sorry, but I’ve forgot why this is here! Can someone tell me what it was for?
Oh god 😝 Haha!
4:57 Good even a man at his age can get some tail action. Wouldn’t surprise me if he still got that charm from being a 007 of Russia back in his younger days
Probably forgotten more about chasing tail than even Bond will ever know.
As Bond implied in the Lecktor description in From Russia With Love, even M was no stranger to getting some at an older age. He and Bond engaged in debauchery. He made Moneypenny shut that recording off and fast.
No one leaves the KGB!
Alive ;; no one leave KGB alive
Ask Zorin and Koskov. I'm pretty sure won't be easy to ask. Because they're dead. Well Zorin is. Not sure if they did ship Koskov off in a body bag with a diplomatic seal of approval.
The actor playing a Soviet official beside Gogol at 7:17 so resembles Leonid Brezhnev, it seems they included him as a reference to Brezhnev during the cold war. While General Orlov (Steven Berkoff) looks like a stand in for Putin.
When Octopussy was filmed, Brezhnev was still the leader of the Soviet Union. However, by the time the movie was released, Brezhnev had died and succeeded by Yuri Andropov, the real-life General Gogol, head of the KGB from 1967 to 1982.
Excellent yet very outstanding job fellows!!
General Orlov mentions "The new Kutuzov Computer" - Field Marshall Kutuzov was a Russian commander who fought against the Ottomans and then Napoleon, who was wounded in action twice and survived against seemingly impossible odds - he deserves to have military equipment named after him.
The same actor is also with Spectre in 'From Russia With Love'.
Last I recalled, he never came back from the boat trip.
@@bluesnake1713
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One of the best supporting 007 characters
Dolph Lundgren is there
He was hilarious as Morzeny. Where he waited an hour to jump off a burning boat and got burned to death
Walter Gotell, along with Desmond Llewellyn (Q), Lois Maxwell (Miss Moneypenny), and Bernard Lee (M), helped make the Bond franchise into the most endearing and longest running movie series of all time. Well done all!!
You know, I never really gave them credit for bringing back Gogol's office in For Your Eyes Only 😆
I always liked this guy. Despite him being villain of the opposite side, he wasnt a bad guy basically
Perhaps based on Yuri Andropov?
No, it’s based on Lavrentiy Beria, the head of the Secret Police in Stalin era. He even looks like him….
@@mdhcz No its based on yuri andropov. Then head of kgb.
@@mdhcz oh god no. Even EON wouldn't have that bad of a taste.
@@kasrakhatir Yeah, why would they beautify a fuckwit that even the Soviets wouldn’t whitewash?
@@bhutochakrabarti4173 He looks a bit like Gorbachev, although I think that similarity was only played up later on. He shares with Gorbachev a commitment to the USSR, but also no desire for full on nuclear war.
Walter Gottel was first appeared in From Russia With Love as an enemy and he returned in The Spy Who Loved Me as KGB and some next James Bond movies.
1:59 never was a fan of Hamlish soundtrack, but i always loved that part of track, which also wasn't even officialy released
Enjoyed it. Thanks.
General Orlfoff, a Putin in the making.
13:11 Look of Ivan Drago 🤘😎
Gogol = REASONABLE PROFESSIONAL on the other side of IRON CURTAIN !!!
Such an underrated channel
……wonderful actor, Walter GOTELL. First saw him in 1962 film, ‘55 Days at Peking’………
Very professional General, despite ideological differents he was willing to share the microfilm of the tracking system with the British, he could have been a prick or dick and just outright said "Weren't sharing it!" "It's ours, we recovered it."
I always liked Gogol as a respectful adversary to Bond, and yet, not wishing to be an enemy. He may represent a different side, often an opposing side, but he's not an evil man, not a power freak, a tyrant seeking death and conquest. And his interactions with Bond show that he truly cares about peace in the world and is willing to work alongside Bond and MI6 to achieve it, with no cost of dignity or loyalty to his own country. His moment in For Your Eyes Only was amusing when he laughed in understanding after Bond destroyed the ATAC, which kept the peaceful status quo. And his later appearance of awarding Bond the Order of Lenin was a very gracious gesture, showing how much Gogol had come to respect Bond, since his heroics not only benefited the West, but also the Soviet side, as well.
Especially Gogol's quip at the end of AVTK about not wanting Silicon Valley to be destroyed by Zorin a former KGB agent because "Soviet research" and Soviet interests would be affected despite throughout the film, Soviet intentions of Silicon Valley is sketchy and a a mystery, meaning their microchip installation in Siberia, Bond raided was full of shit technology to begin and they relied on Western technology. 😂😂
Excuse me, why Bond movies is russian (speaks english)😅
Amazing...
7-year-old me was so mind-blown to discover that the establishing shots seen here @ 0:00 and @ 4:59 were the exact same ones.
I love how Gogol seems to give Bond the Order of Lenin just to get a line off towards M.
I always enjoined it when the KGB and the MI6 cooperated.
And most of all, he gets a theme.
At least two scenes missing - the final scene in TSWLM and the cassette tape scene in AVTAK
Amazing 💖♥️💖...Great work !
I was so surprised to see him in Star Trek: The Next generation.
General Orlov is the prototype of putler...🤡
Isn’t he also in the ending scene of The spy who loved me?
THANK YOU
Long life to Comrade General Gogol ✊✊✊✊
13:01 Dolph Lundgren cameo
General Gogol was also the head of the KGB
Doesn't this apply to Putin in a way?!😂
Major Amasova
7:50 Deja Vu.. 😂😂
The Kill James Bond podcast, which is very critical of the films as a whole, has a lot positive to say about Gogol. The presentation of the KGB as a worthy, honourable adversary (rather than a maniacal "bad guy") in the Cold War movies is something that is missing from a lot of action films more recently.
You never got an American movie depicting Al-Qaeda the same way these films did the USSR, where they might be shooting each other but the leaders on each side were both rational and intelligent people.
1:35 "It had not escaped our notice that you and Agent Barsov had been more than friends for some time...I'm very sorry!" The tone in his voice is heartbreaking
Funny he looks like Real KGB Head- ANDROPOV!! The similarly is very scary!!
Gotell was esprcially good in the Octopussy Russian Top Brass meeting as waa Berkoff: totally over the top.
They forgot the best scene from the Spy Who Loved Me. The one after Bond and XXX were recovered in the escape pod were Bond goes keeping the British End Up Sir
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
A reality now as this film professed in 1977 I had the opportunity to watch it first time in late 1978 in Ghana
Russian leaders could learn a lot from him.
good written character.
❤️ triple x agent russian agent
4:51 He has 99 problems, but...
Wish this character come without Cold War era
lovely Major Amasova
Buen video, el actor es el mismo que sale en from Rusia with love?
Si, pero un jovencito.
@@EVERYJAMESBOND And playing a completely different character, Paola. :)
A little trivia. The actress who plays a PA to Gogol was I think Miss Austria in the 60s. Can't remember her name.
Eva Rueber-Staier, Eva Cowan after marriage.
Walter gotell was a german
They couldnt find a russian actor!
There are one or two Russian actors in the Bond series. One of the ones who springs to mind is Richard Marner - he appears as a space controller in one of the films. Fluent Russian speaker and family left because of the Revolution
Lovely scene
I do not understand why Gogol loved that Bond destroyed the code transmitter, he knows the Brits have more than one of them 😂😅
He was a professional. He lost and could take Bonds joke with a smile.
Is the girl at 4:58 the same at 5:20 and at 9:18?
Indeed! Eva Reuber-Staier played Rublevitch in 3 James Bond films.
Super Charakter ! 👍👍
Great job of editing-
Thanks 😅
Where is the scene from "From Russia with Love" ?
He did not play Gogol in that movie.
He plays Morzeny in that film. Same actor, different character. Morzeny is a brute, while Gogol is more of a reasonable rival and has no desire for all out war with the west
"Where would Russian Research be without it?"
When i heard that line i burst with laughter. Thats just perfect
I really wish they'd have had Col. Scott in Moonraker say "Well, I'm sorry to hear that, sir." after General Gogol's "Problems." line.
Oh, well.
General Gogol is what M should have been and finally became in Goldeneye : an important character whose agents can rely on and who doesn't spend all his time behind a desk but comes when it's necessary.
We will feel sad when someone we knew or close to us die.
Daniel Craig & Sean Connery only, please.
Gogol doesn't appear in their films, so it would be a bit difficult.
It's the video we've ALL been waiting for..