Yipeeeee snowboarding!!!! I'm moving to Colorado the 21st and am super exited about getting back into snowboarding. I went for the first time last year to Steamboat and haven't stopped thinking about it since.
Re: GNU Banked Country, I've always described Mervin's C3 profile as "traditional camber, with an extra flex point in the middle". Just because a lot of us run for the hills when someone brings up "center rocker" xD Great video guys! Loving your content.
In a Golden Age of snowboard design and products. These boards are so fine-tuned and tweaked that all that's left is to play with small changes. About as good as it can get. Maybe boot and binding tech can catch up
I have the Korua Otto, been riding it in the indoor slopes all this year ready for this winter! Going to Les Duex Alpes in December then Austria in January for some all mountain riding and Slalom and boardercross.
I got a Jones ultra mountain twin last year. I love it! I was actually surprised how much I liked it I haven’t rode a twin shape in along time and I really enjoy the versatility of the board. Super fun, great pop if you aren’t afraid to load it. Definitely don’t go for the ultra unless you are an aggressive rider. I also ride a Jones flag ship and it was my daily driver for several years. Also an incredible board. I’d love to rip the GNU banked slalom. I have a Mullair pro model that I also love. I was so sad when they dropped Nico, he is missed on the pro scene. That guy has the best line choices and such a fun style.
Been riding a hometown for a few seasons now and just picked up a showstopper in their sample sale. I know you guys loved that board so I couldn’t be more excited to get out on it!
The graphics of the Yes is amazing. It would make you feel good every time you ride it. Or look at it. Beautiful. Hate ro cover any of it with a binding. That's a board for the showroom window
Been riding a bunch of Mervin boards lately and I could not believe how the Rasman 161 rode. It was PHENOMENAL. You guys absolutely need to take it for a test drive. I've ridden all the Mervin boards this year and that Rasman was like "Oh my god" after turn 3.
Really enjoyed your episode! That banked country looks so sick. The shape, sidecut and graphics just beautiful and gnarly at the same time. Thanks for your shows, keep up the good work!
Several weeks back my riding buddy of 39 years was talking about getting a new board to replace his Ejack, and asked what I thought he should pick-up ? I said without any question the Hometown Hero. After reading and watching some reviews then checking the specs on Burtons website I was sold on it. I stopped at The Hidden Wave in Burlington Wa. and checked out the one they had in stock, I called my buddy and told him they had one, but he told me he had already ordered a new Ejack. To make a long story short I ended up ordering the Hometown Hero in the 160, I think it will fit in my quiver between my 158 Stungun (a little soft) and my 163 Landlord. Knowing how stoked you two are on this board makes me feel I made the right purchase. Being a retired 57 year old now I still search for the fresh but also enjoy the heck out of a good groomer making turns like there’s gates on the hill, miss running gates. Always like listening to your board reviews and knowledge of the products, your knowledge is shown by you decades of riding. You have the Mt Baker banked slalom poster that I have been wanting to get tattooed on my forearm, I may have to have you send a high res pic of it
How does the Hometown Hero compare to the Landlord? Like what conditions would you ride it vs. the other. I also have the Landlord 163, love that board.
@@davidb7358 well I haven’t had a chance to ride the Hero in deep powder but the specs on it lead me to believe it will do just fine. The LL is a little over a inch long then the Hero and as far as flex, they feel real similar. With the Hero being a little shorter I feel it will perform a little better on groomers, but the LL also rips on groomers. The Hero is pretty much my go to board, but when (if) it dumps I’ll be grabbing the LL. Hope this helped
I pulled(YANKED) the trigger on the Aeronaut finally and am so stoked to finally try it. Been sold out everywhere in the size I wanted until the other day...SIIIKED
Hey guys, just an FYI, Burton’s Directional Camber is way different from their S-Camber. The S-Camber was actually completely powder specific and featured camber solely under the rear foot with progressive rocker from the midline of the waist forward to the nose, and the upkick in the rocker was more dramatic beyond the front insert pack. I still own the 2016 Burton Barracuda(primarily for decoration purposes at this point since I have so many newer boards), which was the evolution of the older Malolo, and that board has the S-Camber. Truly it is a wonderful experience to ride an S-Camber board in deep snow, the Malolo that preceded the Barracuda was the first popsicle style board I ever rode in deep powder where I felt like I was riding a fish, except one that was capable of stomping landings when dropping off mini cliffs in the backcountry haha. The Barracuda got a way better core and lost around a pound in weight compared to the Malolo that preceded it. Honestly that board is still totally rideable today if I wanted to take it out thanks to Burton using their infinite ride process by that time but there’s so much new tech in the boards coming out now that I just keep moving forward and buying new stuff hahaha. The S-Camber boards were always kinda sketchy on groomers since it was basically rear steer only and just totally ridden off the tail on anything flat, but that’s not where those boards were designed to be ridden anyways. Those boards were just all out powder slayers. Even with the narrower waist lines that boards of that era inherently had compared to today, the design produced absolutely unsinkable boards that felt fun and surfy on the deep days. Anyways, Burton hasn’t made an S-Camber board for several years now and their directional camber is way different, it’s much more friendly to the groomer experience and making traverses for sure 😉👍🏼
Finally! Something I can work with… desperately need a new board. Been riding for decades, shredding it. But not any knowledge about boards (do wax, repair and edge them myself, but that’s how far it goes). Just van’t save my current board anymore 😅 (Nitro Magnum) With your info I think I’ll probably be able to finally pick a really gnar one for once! Cheers! Really enjoyed the way you brought it too. ✌🏼
we Designed a Family Tree Board called the Crowsnest a few years back with Burton....that is one to find as we did 26.8 at the waist in a 157cm......we love wides.....and not because either of us have big feet!
Finally got around to watching this. I think you need to do one of your vids on sidecut radius and styles (radial, progressive, etc.) and how that aligns to carving and other riding. It feels like there was a trend of much smaller/tighter sidecuts for many years (think 6.0 to low 7s) that is moving back to larger sidecuts (8.0 +/-), which is my preference. My impression is most of the boards that Mark likes have larger sidecuts, but the HTH has a much smaller one. So other than the tight turn of a banked slalom, why pick the HTH? (Note, I found it harsh and unforgiving when I owned a 156.) For reference, I have been riding since '89 and seen a lot of trends come and go. Thanks again for these vids! They get the wheels spinning and keep the progression going!
I’d be super interested in your take on the Uber-egg. Picked the last one in the UK up in the summer in the hope of some deeps this season. You introduced me to Korua, I started with a ‘56 Dart, but the crazy focused side to side and front to rear rocker boat hull uniqueness of the egg, did I mention the width, just sucked me in. Love the video’s👊🏻
I’ve watched a few of these type of videos and for the most part I really enjoy them and find them entertaining if not educational. However I find myself genuinely curios as to why none that I have seen ever mention Nidecker boards, specifically the ‘Ultra’ & ‘Megalight’ or even the ‘Gun’. Anyone who’s ever ridden Nidecker boards will attest not only to their sublime performance but also the innovative way in they approach snowboarding. I’m curious because they’ve been doing so for years and if you look closer, you’ll see that some of the boards that come up in these type of ‘Top Five etc’ videos are actually made in the Nidecker factory in Switzerland, yet the company’s boards are rarely if ever mentioned. If I’m not mistaken I seem to remember one of the top tier Jones boards at one point was made by Nidecker and might possibly still be the case, although don’t take my word for it. It really would add so much more credibility to these type of videos if they were at least acknowledged once in a while. I’ve been riding the Mega and Ultra for years. Each year I try other boards from just about any manufacturer worth considering and every time it’s the same, yea they’re good but nothing comes close to the experience I get from Nidecker boards. -Seal ✌🏾&💜
Probably because Tribute doesn't seem to carry Nidecker boards in the shop, only bindings. Don't forget that these guys run a board shop, and obviously part of the goal of these videos is to move product. I'm sure if you drop by and chat them up, they'll tell you about the Nidecker boards they've tested, but for their product picks, they go with the stuff they have in inventory.
Just ordered the Banked Country paired with the new Union Forces! Hope it will be a fun board for the east coast. Oh and the easter egg im guessing is you two wearing the same colors of flannel that the guy wears in the red and green show (blue & red) haha
@@alansarrol4803 I own the 24 Banked Country with the new Union Forces as well. I absolutely love it. I live in the Midwest so I ride plenty of ice and garbage and this board handles business.
So I actually have a theory as to what the idea behind mervin’s C3 camber is, I think the idea is to more evenly distribute camber as on a conventionally cambered board there’s probably going to be an area of low pressure between your feet
I have the 2020/2021 PYL...the one with the natural wood and moss green and white graphics. That board fucking rips. I have the 162 and it's a total monster. I have the Now Drive set up on it. I just bought last year's Banked Country and just ordered the Mercury bindings to set up on it. What wax would you recommend for the Banked Country? I'll be at Winter Park, Copper and A Basin all season with a few days at Boat. Like you duders, I've been riding since "92 when I was 15. Love being in the culture most of my life. It's a right of passage for sure.
Absolutely love and appreciate all the comparisons you guys do!! I was hoping you could clarify why you recommend the MT Twin over the Frontier for all-mountain? I thought the Frontier is stiffer and more directional/tapered than the MT making it better for all-mountain riding vs. the MT Twin is softer and more of a true twin so better for switch/park/freestyling? Please let me know if I'm wrong as I'm on the fence about these two amazing boards!
I've ridden the same Burton Sherlock 162W(flying v profile) since 2014. I'm 180lbs, 6'2" and wear a size 12 boot. I live in California but ride around the American/Canadian Rockies & PNW. Advanced rider who likes to find the steepest lines in the resort, smash tree runs, and explore side country/hike to nearby peeks. I just got new Burton Photon step ons and need to get the bindings + new board to complete the overdue setup upgrade. I feel pretty confident that all of these would suffice as an improvement, but each top 5 video I watch has its own blend of boards from companies. Do you recommend demoing boards or just pick one and go from there? Any other recs based on my "profile"? Cheers guys!
That shelock in a 162w a great board for you. Look for decks with similar dimentions....even a spec wider than that. Jones Stratos in the Big horn series, Gnu gremlin , Burton Hometown hero in a "W" width come to mind.
Thoughts on the Ultra MTN twin? I’m 6’1” and 220 lbs. I have a Burton Flight Attendant which I love for charging and powder days. I’m looking for an all MTN twin to play on more and use when I go with my 10 yo boy. Been considering the Jones Ultra MTN twin, Bataleon Goliath plus, Evil Twin Plus, Capita Mega Merc., or Rome Agent Pro. Thoughts? Also, I love your videos. Great stuff.
Great video and it definitely gives a flavour of what's out there. I see that Jeremy himself says the Jones Mountain Twin is most at home between 10 and 35mph. Does that apply to all these boards? Have you got a video for the top 5 all mountain boards (+1) that are most at home between say 35 and 60mph, or a few recommendations? It's not always apparent which is the next level up in a range of snowboards, or whether to do for intermediate or advanced when internet shopping and it's difficult for me to try out multiple boards so I'd like to narrow it down as much as possible. 6ft1, roughly 230lbs, CASI lvl 2, have ridden the Delirium Dive and survived. Will be riding in the French Alps this season though so quite interested in the magna traction type edging since I'm usually riding bullet proof polished pistes more than nip deep pow (not through choice).
Cheers !! With this info we would say check out a Jones Aviator , Korua Cafe Racer , or a Capita MEGA Mercury .... those are some of our favorite High Spped Machines!!
Have an Aviator in my quiver and agree it is a great high speed board. Also have a mntn twin, and it feels stable at 80% the speed of the aviator. GPS yourself…I highly doubt you are going as fast as you think you are…and definitely aren’t going those speeds as an average. It’s really tough to even get close to 50 mph. I’ve straight lined a whole black diamond run at marmot basin on an icy day first thing in the morning when it was cold and fast. Fresh wax. Scared myself as air was starting to lift the board and my gps said my top speed was 85 km/hr (52mph). Would have swore I was closer to 60mph.
@@gpaull2I hit 89.9 kmh at Sunshine in the bowl but I was straightlining it and I'm 230lbs. You're right ...even an average of 50kmh is a fast run because most top speeds are only for a second or two.
Great overview! Thanks guys. I'm in the middle of making a new choice for an all mountain board, and drove my K2 for 17 tears now. It's time to adopt the new innovative boards and experience the new techniques used now a days. Looking for a mid flex board, not top much camber (should i choose a Hybrid with both camber and rocker zones?) and I won't use ut in the park for tricks. I should have a width model because of my 10.5 _ 11.0 booth size. So tips welcome! My short list at the moment is: Jones mountain twin, New Summer Cougar, Lib tech apex orca or Capita Aeronaut. Anyone to help for choosing number 1? Thanks Robin
Hi Robin, I love the aeronaught , but too narrow for 10.5 - 11 boots. I have never had my hands on the never board you have mentioned, so I cannot comment on it. Apex Orca is amazing, and has that Camber line you have mentioned. That would probably be my 1st suggestion for you. Jones Mtn twin with many so many size options, you'll find a perfect fit. More of a standard camber, but with way smoother blends ( early rise ) compared to your 17 yr old K. I feel the Jones Aviator a closer match-up to the Apex orca.
Thanks @@markfawcett9654 My local shop advisor said the same as you did: orca or twin would be a perfect new episode after 17 yrs full camber board with NO smooth edges :-)... Because I prefer a flexy board and playfull style for the coming years, and will stay out of the Park, I have chosen the Twin in a smaller size than Jones advized by their own website table sizes overview. I'm 1.89mtrs tall, 86kg of weight, and booth side is even 12 US (after checking). The advisor told me to buy the 159W version (and NOT the 162W), and my StepOn Burton stance do fit and look okay (and awesome). I'll try in Austria at Jan 28th, so hope the best (buy) for me...
Dudes. Good stuff. I am super pumped to ride a Gril master this season. There is still so much positive hype around the Burton deep thinker and the hometown hero. Considering trying those as well. How will the three ride different?
Grill rides more like an older board. Very strong response off the tail, and lots of hold back there too. Older nose shape ( in a good way ) but with modern tec and that gorgeous early rise. I LOVE it. Best Burton board I've ridden since the crowsnest. Deep thinker and HH super similar in their riding. Easy to manuver in the tight spots. totaly swiss army knife...does it all really well. SOOO many size options with the HH, you can find an ideal fit. Deep thinker super similar HH, really just slightly different width dimentions and graphics.
Thanks. Excited to ride a grilmaster. Confused on sizing. 5’10” 190 lbs. size 12 boot. Mostly ride in Midwest so short, narrow, crowded runs. I have recommended to go with 155w or 160.
I’m having trouble hearing what their personal picks were…I got the PYL for Fawcet…but the other guy’s pick. My ears just can’t pick it up. What was it? Thanks anyone! Loved the list, gave me some interest in new boards! EDIT: Nvm…realized they are referencing the Capita board which was designed by Longo…lol. That’s the problem with a long-format video and not being “up to date” on snowboarding culture as the viewer. Realized it an hour later when a different video had the designer’s name in it again.
What would be the main difference between Capita Aeronaut, Mercury and BSOD? Which would be more freeride agressive All-Mountain and less freestyle, park oriented?
Never see a lot of exposure for Never Summer. I have an old 2016 prototype 2 that I still ride for all mountain chill days when I put down my mega merc evil twin and bataleon surfer. Are they not liked well or is it a regional preference?
Good evening, guys. Excellent vid. Super informative! Soooo... I'm brand new to the sport and in search of my first board. Of the 6 absolutely gorgeous choices, which ones would you recommend for beginners? A board that you can grow with as your skill set progresses? Any help or suggestions could provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much. Cheers!
Forgive my ignorance, but what is the difference between a party board and a quiver killer? Which of the discussed boards would you recommend? Previous boards…. Mountain Twin Ltd, Arbor Iguchi pro camber, Burton Skeleton Key Twin, Capita DOA, Public X vans collab. Loved the MTN Twin, the Skeleton Key, and currently loving the Public.
Local shop has a GNU banked country 160w in sale! Im 180lbs US10 boots. Think that would work? Also has 155 in sale but maybe too small. Mainly resort riding.
Kaua auto, Capita Mega Death, or Burton Mystery Hometown Hero. Which would you choose? I'm leaning towards Mystery hometown hero, but these reviews have me second guessing myself. High speeds/carving, dabble in the park but not much, eastcoaster so not crazy powder (stick to Vermont/Quebec).
@@Riders_Loungeupdate. That Uninc f’ing riiiiiips! Top 3 board all time and I’ve been doing this since 87 lol. Lays it down and floats as good as my Bataleon surfer which is crazy. Quite turny too, more so than that surfer.
For an intermediate to advanced board, that likes all mountain, little park but generally a quick and aggressive rider, would you recommend this or the Captia Merc?
The tail was a bit more of a pin tail last year and I heard that it was a little bit stiffer last year as well. I own the 24 Banked Country and I absolutely love it!
So pick your line uninc for a around 180lbs ? I’m doubting 155 or 157. Bootsize 10-10,5 depending on brand. I ride the alps I am higher intermediate or a tad more but far from pro and far from done with learning at 40 of age
Looking in to Korua boards for some time now, but want to know with which board you can compare the Otto the best. Tried myself the Salomon assasin 159,jones frontier 159 and lib tech terrain wrecker 157. Now one a skate banana but want something more all-mountain and carving suited and stiffer than the skate banana for extra stability when carving and making speed. I am 179 cm, boot size 27,0 MP and 56-62 kg over time. Now own the skate banana in 152.
Hey Im 185lbs with a size 6 lol im 5'8. Im actually in a size 7 wide boot because i couldnt get a size 6 boot that fit well the bloody feet are nearly as wide as they are long lol. I dont ride switch or jump just cruise around. I bought a warpig in the small in 148 cause of my small foot what do you think? What board would you recommend?
Yea we would recommend bigger for sure - Check out a Capita Aeronaut 155 , Jones Stratos ( 53 or 56 ) or the Gnu Banked Country 155 ! The waist sizes will be totally fine and you will benefit from the added contact
Hey guys what would you say is probably the biggest difference between the Jones MTN twin and the stratos? I just picked up the mtn twin in a splitboard and I couldn’t be any more excited. I’m on the east coast so now deep powder ahaha But I am in Quebec so we go get a decent amount of snow compared to the rest of the east
The tail is the biggest difference - and how the side cut will exit - we tent to think of the Stratos as a " Freeride" and the Twin as an All Mountain.....but if you are into hard carving and more directional riding then we choose the Stratos!
Totally need your advice, guys. I juat cant make my choice between Nidecker alpha apx, Burton Hometown Hero and Jones Aviator 2.0 (all boards is 2024 season) as one board quiver . Help me please)
Easy Answer is yes - especially because we love the new tail design . Stability in all aspects is greater and you can really hammer the apex of a turn now! ( BUT , if you only have 25 or so days on the other.... its likely still in great shape and should be ridden more! )
What would you suggest for a 135 lbs, 5'5 women with long feets! got a have men's 9.5 because women size don't work. Looking for allmountain mainly riding groomed terrain because powder is so rare in our place. Not doing park.
I’m aware the never summer proto fr isn’t on this list but would you recommend the pyl dcp or the proto fr triple camber for an aggressive all mountain powder focused board ? I’m 6’2 and 220lbs , been riding for 24 years , this will be my first year not being a park rat . I wear a size 12 high country or hell bound in a size large union atlas so I need something to accommodate my feet ( 260+ waist width)? Btw fantastic reviews as always .
I picked up a jones mountain twin, and my edge is now delaminating off of my top sheet. Not sure if I want to buy another jones board or not. Any thoughts?
@@Riders_Lounge I ended up being able to just return the board to rei and then I bought myself a Salomon assassin pro. Just don’t trust the jones quality anymore.
Do I have to do Top 7's now?
awe man - we love you :) ... and yes , top 7 please !
Youve been doing top 8s you just falsely advertise
My RUclips worlds are colliding!!
@@brianp9268 shhh don't tell anyone.
@@NilsenMouind dont make this weird…
Why am I watching this, I don't even snowboard. Just kicking it with my pals talking tech. lol. You guys rock.
The ONLY top 6 show in snowboarding!
Helllo snowboarders of the internet 😉😂
Solid picks! You guys seem like some great dudes, hope to have the chance to come by the shop one day.
Come Visit!! We would love to have you!
Yipeeeee snowboarding!!!! I'm moving to Colorado the 21st and am super exited about getting back into snowboarding. I went for the first time last year to Steamboat and haven't stopped thinking about it since.
Re: GNU Banked Country, I've always described Mervin's C3 profile as "traditional camber, with an extra flex point in the middle". Just because a lot of us run for the hills when someone brings up "center rocker" xD Great video guys! Loving your content.
In a Golden Age of snowboard design and products. These boards are so fine-tuned and tweaked that all that's left is to play with small changes. About as good as it can get. Maybe boot and binding tech can catch up
I have a PYL from 2018 and it is literally my favorite board ever.
I have the Korua Otto, been riding it in the indoor slopes all this year ready for this winter! Going to Les Duex Alpes in December then Austria in January for some all mountain riding and Slalom and boardercross.
I got a Jones ultra mountain twin last year. I love it! I was actually surprised how much I liked it I haven’t rode a twin shape in along time and I really enjoy the versatility of the board. Super fun, great pop if you aren’t afraid to load it. Definitely don’t go for the ultra unless you are an aggressive rider. I also ride a Jones flag ship and it was my daily driver for several years. Also an incredible board. I’d love to rip the GNU banked slalom. I have a Mullair pro model that I also love. I was so sad when they dropped Nico, he is missed on the pro scene. That guy has the best line choices and such a fun style.
Been riding a hometown for a few seasons now and just picked up a showstopper in their sample sale. I know you guys loved that board so I couldn’t be more excited to get out on it!
I love the showstopper
As a die-hard Mervin guy and surfer I'd love to check that Gnu. You really did sell me on that one.
The graphics of the Yes is amazing. It would make you feel good every time you ride it. Or look at it. Beautiful. Hate ro cover any of it with a binding. That's a board for the showroom window
Came looking for this comment hoping I wasn't the only one, wish more boards had this style!
Great episode guys! This might be my favourite back and forth to date!
Thanks for the Support!
love your videos! can't wait for a unisex/women's top 5+
Thanks for your viewership !! Working on that one as I type this.
Been riding a bunch of Mervin boards lately and I could not believe how the Rasman 161 rode. It was PHENOMENAL.
You guys absolutely need to take it for a test drive. I've ridden all the Mervin boards this year and that Rasman was like "Oh my god" after turn 3.
Its a beauty for sure!
I loved the « top 6 so don’t make the angry guy angry!!! “ 😂😂😂
Really enjoyed your episode! That banked country looks so sick. The shape, sidecut and graphics just beautiful and gnarly at the same time. Thanks for your shows, keep up the good work!
Thanks for the support!
Picked up a Capita Mega Merc last season, it’s unbelievable, does everything I’ve ever needed.
Several weeks back my riding buddy of 39 years was talking about getting a new board to replace his Ejack, and asked what I thought he should pick-up ? I said without any question the Hometown Hero. After reading and watching some reviews then checking the specs on Burtons website I was sold on it. I stopped at The Hidden Wave in Burlington Wa. and checked out the one they had in stock, I called my buddy and told him they had one, but he told me he had already ordered a new Ejack. To make a long story short I ended up ordering the Hometown Hero in the 160, I think it will fit in my quiver between my 158 Stungun (a little soft) and my 163 Landlord.
Knowing how stoked you two are on this board makes me feel I made the right purchase. Being a retired 57 year old now I still search for the fresh but also enjoy the heck out of a good groomer making turns like there’s gates on the hill, miss running gates. Always like listening to your board reviews and knowledge of the products, your knowledge is shown by you decades of riding. You have the Mt Baker banked slalom poster that I have been wanting to get tattooed on my forearm, I may have to have you send a high res pic of it
How does the Hometown Hero compare to the Landlord? Like what conditions would you ride it vs. the other. I also have the Landlord 163, love that board.
@@davidb7358 well I haven’t had a chance to ride the Hero in deep powder but the specs on it lead me to believe it will do just fine. The LL is a little over a inch long then the Hero and as far as flex, they feel real similar. With the Hero being a little shorter I feel it will perform a little better on groomers, but the LL also rips on groomers. The Hero is pretty much my go to board, but when (if) it dumps I’ll be grabbing the LL. Hope this helped
Bob and Doug Dixxon shirts?
Take off eh
I rock the Red Green / Possum Lodge from last year.
Love the plaids as always!
Another amazing episode 👍👌🤙
Yes, but you were not the first to answer! Thx for the support man!
I thought for sure Mike was gonna be from Canmore ala this hour has 22 minutes.
I pulled(YANKED) the trigger on the Aeronaut finally and am so stoked to finally try it. Been sold out everywhere in the size I wanted until the other day...SIIIKED
Stoked!!
getting mine on wednesday! so siked!
@@boardforthescraping you're gonna be stoked! So much pop
Picked up a Hometown Hero this season… can’t wait to ride it! 🤙
Nice list. I think I’d do the Standard as a more versatile all mountain option from Yes than the PYL.
You guys should do what boards to take to which country or mountain!!!!
I like this concept !! Thanks for the suggestion.
Hey guys, just an FYI, Burton’s Directional Camber is way different from their S-Camber. The S-Camber was actually completely powder specific and featured camber solely under the rear foot with progressive rocker from the midline of the waist forward to the nose, and the upkick in the rocker was more dramatic beyond the front insert pack. I still own the 2016 Burton Barracuda(primarily for decoration purposes at this point since I have so many newer boards), which was the evolution of the older Malolo, and that board has the S-Camber.
Truly it is a wonderful experience to ride an S-Camber board in deep snow, the Malolo that preceded the Barracuda was the first popsicle style board I ever rode in deep powder where I felt like I was riding a fish, except one that was capable of stomping landings when dropping off mini cliffs in the backcountry haha. The Barracuda got a way better core and lost around a pound in weight compared to the Malolo that preceded it. Honestly that board is still totally rideable today if I wanted to take it out thanks to Burton using their infinite ride process by that time but there’s so much new tech in the boards coming out now that I just keep moving forward and buying new stuff hahaha.
The S-Camber boards were always kinda sketchy on groomers since it was basically rear steer only and just totally ridden off the tail on anything flat, but that’s not where those boards were designed to be ridden anyways. Those boards were just all out powder slayers. Even with the narrower waist lines that boards of that era inherently had compared to today, the design produced absolutely unsinkable boards that felt fun and surfy on the deep days.
Anyways, Burton hasn’t made an S-Camber board for several years now and their directional camber is way different, it’s much more friendly to the groomer experience and making traverses for sure 😉👍🏼
Finally! Something I can work with… desperately need a new board. Been riding for decades, shredding it. But not any knowledge about boards (do wax, repair and edge them myself, but that’s how far it goes). Just van’t save my current board anymore 😅 (Nitro Magnum)
With your info I think I’ll probably be able to finally pick a really gnar one for once!
Cheers! Really enjoyed the way you brought it too.
✌🏼
Thanks for the Support!
Thanks so much, just love these in depth high tech reviews you guys do
Thanks for the support!
Love your videos! You can see that you’re having fun.
Would appreciate more recommendations closer to the holy 27cm waist.
we Designed a Family Tree Board called the Crowsnest a few years back with Burton....that is one to find as we did 26.8 at the waist in a 157cm......we love wides.....and not because either of us have big feet!
Answer to Canadian Trivia : Bob and Doug with the plaid shirts. Really enjoying your content !
Yes , nailed it !!! but .... not first to answer :)
D'oh !!!! so close. Cheers. @@Riders_Lounge
Loved this, love your channel and all your videos! I am super stoked to watch your women’s reviews! Keep up the great work!
100% ! Carmen has been slammed running shop but more on the way …. 😊 plus a special guest coming in the next
One ! Thx for the support !
Nice review about Dupraz 5'5" amazing too
Finally got around to watching this. I think you need to do one of your vids on sidecut radius and styles (radial, progressive, etc.) and how that aligns to carving and other riding. It feels like there was a trend of much smaller/tighter sidecuts for many years (think 6.0 to low 7s) that is moving back to larger sidecuts (8.0 +/-), which is my preference. My impression is most of the boards that Mark likes have larger sidecuts, but the HTH has a much smaller one. So other than the tight turn of a banked slalom, why pick the HTH? (Note, I found it harsh and unforgiving when I owned a 156.) For reference, I have been riding since '89 and seen a lot of trends come and go. Thanks again for these vids! They get the wheels spinning and keep the progression going!
we both love Larger sidecuts as well ! will for sure look at a episode on that topic...thx for the support!
I love that my generation still rules snowboarding.
I’d be super interested in your take on the Uber-egg. Picked the last one in the UK up in the summer in the hope of some deeps this season. You introduced me to Korua, I started with a ‘56 Dart, but the crazy focused side to side and front to rear rocker boat hull uniqueness of the egg, did I mention the width, just sucked me in. Love the video’s👊🏻
Trying to get our hand on one :) stay tuned ......and thx for the support!
I’ve watched a few of these type of videos and for the most part I really enjoy them and find them entertaining if not educational. However I find myself genuinely curios as to why none that I have seen ever mention Nidecker boards, specifically the ‘Ultra’ & ‘Megalight’ or even the ‘Gun’. Anyone who’s ever ridden Nidecker boards will attest not only to their sublime performance but also the innovative way in they approach snowboarding. I’m curious because they’ve been doing so for years and if you look closer, you’ll see that some of the boards that come up in these type of ‘Top Five etc’ videos are actually made in the Nidecker factory in Switzerland, yet the company’s boards are rarely if ever mentioned. If I’m not mistaken I seem to remember one of the top tier Jones boards at one point was made by Nidecker and might possibly still be the case, although don’t take my word for it.
It really would add so much more credibility to these type of videos if they were at least acknowledged once in a while. I’ve been riding the Mega and Ultra for years. Each year I try other boards from just about any manufacturer worth considering and every time it’s the same, yea they’re good but nothing comes close to the experience I get from Nidecker boards.
-Seal ✌🏾&💜
Are you Seal as in "Kiss from a Rose"?
@@Kristosdee Yes I am. I’m up in Val Thorens/French Alps at the moment.
angry snowboarder's number 1 free ride board was nidecker ultralight
Probably because Tribute doesn't seem to carry Nidecker boards in the shop, only bindings. Don't forget that these guys run a board shop, and obviously part of the goal of these videos is to move product. I'm sure if you drop by and chat them up, they'll tell you about the Nidecker boards they've tested, but for their product picks, they go with the stuff they have in inventory.
It's gotta be a Beachcombers with those plaid shirts and the Relic hat!
Old school BC plate? Great selection, sharing with my anti-quiver buddy who's in the market this year. Cheers from the Okanagan!
Thanks for the Support!
love the insights gents. Hope to visit Nelson this year 🏂🏂
This video is relevant to me
Academy Master should be on this list. Board slays.
How would the Jones MTN Twin compare to the Spring Break Resort Twin (aside from the 3D shape on the Jones)?
How would you compare the Jones Mountain Twin vs the Frontier?
No love for the ride shadowban? Love the channel. Thanks guys
Just ordered the Banked Country paired with the new Union Forces! Hope it will be a fun board for the east coast.
Oh and the easter egg im guessing is you two wearing the same colors of flannel that the guy wears in the red and green show (blue & red) haha
how do you like it so far?
@@alansarrol4803 I wish I could tell you. Still not much snow in my area yet.
@@alansarrol4803 I own the 24 Banked Country with the new Union Forces as well. I absolutely love it. I live in the Midwest so I ride plenty of ice and garbage and this board handles business.
Been riding a GNU riders choice this season east coast. The mag is a game changer
@@alansarrol4803 Board and Bindings are great so far! did not get a chance to ride all types of terrain yet but so far I really enjoy it.
So I actually have a theory as to what the idea behind mervin’s C3 camber is, I think the idea is to more evenly distribute camber as on a conventionally cambered board there’s probably going to be an area of low pressure between your feet
I have the 2020/2021 PYL...the one with the natural wood and moss green and white graphics. That board fucking rips. I have the 162 and it's a total monster. I have the Now Drive set up on it.
I just bought last year's Banked Country and just ordered the Mercury bindings to set up on it.
What wax would you recommend for the Banked Country? I'll be at Winter Park, Copper and A Basin all season with a few days at Boat.
Like you duders, I've been riding since "92 when I was 15. Love being in the culture most of my life. It's a right of passage for sure.
Absolutely love and appreciate all the comparisons you guys do!! I was hoping you could clarify why you recommend the MT Twin over the Frontier for all-mountain? I thought the Frontier is stiffer and more directional/tapered than the MT making it better for all-mountain riding vs. the MT Twin is softer and more of a true twin so better for switch/park/freestyling? Please let me know if I'm wrong as I'm on the fence about these two amazing boards!
I've ridden the same Burton Sherlock 162W(flying v profile) since 2014. I'm 180lbs, 6'2" and wear a size 12 boot. I live in California but ride around the American/Canadian Rockies & PNW. Advanced rider who likes to find the steepest lines in the resort, smash tree runs, and explore side country/hike to nearby peeks.
I just got new Burton Photon step ons and need to get the bindings + new board to complete the overdue setup upgrade. I feel pretty confident that all of these would suffice as an improvement, but each top 5 video I watch has its own blend of boards from companies. Do you recommend demoing boards or just pick one and go from there? Any other recs based on my "profile"? Cheers guys!
That shelock in a 162w a great board for you. Look for decks with similar dimentions....even a spec wider than that. Jones Stratos in the Big horn series, Gnu gremlin , Burton Hometown hero in a "W" width come to mind.
Good content.
Thoughts on the Ultra MTN twin? I’m 6’1” and 220 lbs. I have a Burton Flight Attendant which I love for charging and powder days. I’m looking for an all MTN twin to play on more and use when I go with my 10 yo boy. Been considering the Jones Ultra MTN twin, Bataleon Goliath plus, Evil Twin Plus, Capita Mega Merc., or Rome Agent Pro. Thoughts? Also, I love your videos. Great stuff.
Hahahahah you’re 5’10 I know who you are irl. Funny that you’re insecure enough to lie on a snowboard video
I’d love to see you guys review the Lib Tech Stump Ape. There’s hardly any information on that board anywhere and it rides amazingly well.
For sure a specialty shape - we may look at a "short fat " epi next season! The YES 420 is a shop fav as well and worth some praise
Great video and it definitely gives a flavour of what's out there. I see that Jeremy himself says the Jones Mountain Twin is most at home between 10 and 35mph. Does that apply to all these boards? Have you got a video for the top 5 all mountain boards (+1) that are most at home between say 35 and 60mph, or a few recommendations? It's not always apparent which is the next level up in a range of snowboards, or whether to do for intermediate or advanced when internet shopping and it's difficult for me to try out multiple boards so I'd like to narrow it down as much as possible. 6ft1, roughly 230lbs, CASI lvl 2, have ridden the Delirium Dive and survived. Will be riding in the French Alps this season though so quite interested in the magna traction type edging since I'm usually riding bullet proof polished pistes more than nip deep pow (not through choice).
Cheers !! With this info we would say check out a Jones Aviator , Korua Cafe Racer , or a Capita MEGA Mercury .... those are some of our favorite High Spped Machines!!
Have an Aviator in my quiver and agree it is a great high speed board. Also have a mntn twin, and it feels stable at 80% the speed of the aviator. GPS yourself…I highly doubt you are going as fast as you think you are…and definitely aren’t going those speeds as an average. It’s really tough to even get close to 50 mph. I’ve straight lined a whole black diamond run at marmot basin on an icy day first thing in the morning when it was cold and fast. Fresh wax. Scared myself as air was starting to lift the board and my gps said my top speed was 85 km/hr (52mph). Would have swore I was closer to 60mph.
@@gpaull2I hit 89.9 kmh at Sunshine in the bowl but I was straightlining it and I'm 230lbs. You're right ...even an average of 50kmh is a fast run because most top speeds are only for a second or two.
Great overview! Thanks guys. I'm in the middle of making a new choice for an all mountain board, and drove my K2 for 17 tears now. It's time to adopt the new innovative boards and experience the new techniques used now a days. Looking for a mid flex board, not top much camber (should i choose a Hybrid with both camber and rocker zones?) and I won't use ut in the park for tricks. I should have a width model because of my 10.5 _ 11.0 booth size. So tips welcome! My short list at the moment is: Jones mountain twin, New Summer Cougar, Lib tech apex orca or Capita Aeronaut. Anyone to help for choosing number 1? Thanks Robin
Hi Robin, I love the aeronaught , but too narrow for 10.5 - 11 boots. I have never had my hands on the never board you have mentioned, so I cannot comment on it. Apex Orca is amazing, and has that Camber line you have mentioned. That would probably be my 1st suggestion for you. Jones Mtn twin with many so many size options, you'll find a perfect fit. More of a standard camber, but with way smoother blends ( early rise ) compared to your 17 yr old K. I feel the Jones Aviator a closer match-up to the Apex orca.
Thanks @@markfawcett9654 My local shop advisor said the same as you did: orca or twin would be a perfect new episode after 17 yrs full camber board with NO smooth edges :-)... Because I prefer a flexy board and playfull style for the coming years, and will stay out of the Park, I have chosen the Twin in a smaller size than Jones advized by their own website table sizes overview. I'm 1.89mtrs tall, 86kg of weight, and booth side is even 12 US (after checking). The advisor told me to buy the 159W version (and NOT the 162W), and my StepOn Burton stance do fit and look okay (and awesome). I'll try in Austria at Jan 28th, so hope the best (buy) for me...
Glad you went with the wide. That 159w shall serve you well. Enjoy !
I don't agree with low emphasis on switch, it makes the ride more fun, and you have so much more options with it
korua for life
Dudes. Good stuff. I am super pumped to ride a Gril master this season. There is still so much positive hype around the Burton deep thinker and the hometown hero. Considering trying those as well. How will the three ride different?
Grill rides more like an older board. Very strong response off the tail, and lots of hold back there too. Older nose shape ( in a good way ) but with modern tec and that gorgeous early rise. I LOVE it. Best Burton board I've ridden since the crowsnest. Deep thinker and HH super similar in their riding. Easy to manuver in the tight spots. totaly swiss army knife...does it all really well. SOOO many size options with the HH, you can find an ideal fit. Deep thinker super similar HH, really just slightly different width dimentions and graphics.
Thanks. Excited to ride a grilmaster. Confused on sizing. 5’10” 190 lbs. size 12 boot. Mostly ride in Midwest so short, narrow, crowded runs. I have recommended to go with 155w or 160.
I’m having trouble hearing what their personal picks were…I got the PYL for Fawcet…but the other guy’s pick. My ears just can’t pick it up. What was it? Thanks anyone!
Loved the list, gave me some interest in new boards!
EDIT: Nvm…realized they are referencing the Capita board which was designed by Longo…lol. That’s the problem with a long-format video and not being “up to date” on snowboarding culture as the viewer. Realized it an hour later when a different video had the designer’s name in it again.
Sick sick sick. Got a Hovercraft and Orion Bindings. Should I get the Otto or the Mtn Twin? Thankkkksss
im 155 pounds, and 5'10, with a size 9 foot. i ride a 153 with no problems
How would you compare the HTH to the Skeleton Key? Additionally is there any major differences in the feel and flex of a regular vs Mystery HTH?
Skeleton is super soft in the nose....chill ride
@@Riders_Lounge is there a difference in flex and feel of the regular vs mystery HTH?
The only Canadian easter egg I can see is your matching plaid flannels haha
I’m Canadian… never noticed.
getting warmer.......
They're the same colour of shirts as Bob and Doug McKenzie!@@Riders_Lounge
@@webarelygettinby YES!!! WINNER !!!!! email your address / tele to info@tributeboardshop.ca . we will get some goods out to you!
Very engaging and informative video! One additional question please: which one of these would hold best on icy runs? Thanks!
We would lean toward the Banked Country - pro mag really adds to the ice stability!
What would be the main difference between Capita Aeronaut, Mercury and BSOD? Which would be more freeride agressive All-Mountain and less freestyle, park oriented?
Go with the BSOD
Go Mega Death!
Bsod, Aeronaut, Mercury based on your criteria
Never see a lot of exposure for Never Summer. I have an old 2016 prototype 2 that I still ride for all mountain chill days when I put down my mega merc evil twin and bataleon surfer. Are they not liked well or is it a regional preference?
I ride in the midwest.. ill see myself out.
Good evening, guys. Excellent vid. Super informative! Soooo... I'm brand new to the sport and in search of my first board. Of the 6 absolutely gorgeous choices, which ones would you recommend for beginners? A board that you can grow with as your skill set progresses? Any help or suggestions could provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much. Cheers!
The Mountain Twin is the only real option here. The other ones are not nearly as beginner-friendly.
Ditch the gnu Burton and jones add in the ride deep fake nitro alternator and the K2 antidote.
Forgive my ignorance, but what is the difference between a party board and a quiver killer?
Which of the discussed boards would you recommend?
Previous boards…. Mountain Twin Ltd, Arbor Iguchi pro camber, Burton Skeleton Key Twin, Capita DOA, Public X vans collab.
Loved the MTN Twin, the Skeleton Key, and currently loving the Public.
Local shop has a GNU banked country 160w in sale! Im 180lbs US10 boots. Think that would work? Also has 155 in sale but maybe too small. Mainly resort riding.
@@SonnyCrockettt hi ! We can get into depth on these questions for patreon members :) head over there for detailed help from Shane and Mark !
Sold! Take my money😜Definitely best snowboard content/advice on here👌🏽 especially listening to the pro’s talk about there gear.
Kaua auto, Capita Mega Death, or Burton Mystery Hometown Hero. Which would you choose?
I'm leaning towards Mystery hometown hero, but these reviews have me second guessing myself.
High speeds/carving, dabble in the park but not much, eastcoaster so not crazy powder (stick to Vermont/Quebec).
Cant go wrong with any of these, however I would suggest you Trust your 1st intuition and go with the Mystery HH. I love that board.
Retallack and eagle pass trips this year. PYL DCP over Mind Expander? Any other recommendations?
Lucky! Both are great operations.... Jump on that PYL unInc ! that the one
@@Riders_Loungedone
@@Riders_Loungeupdate. That Uninc f’ing riiiiiips! Top 3 board all time and I’ve been doing this since 87 lol. Lays it down and floats as good as my Bataleon surfer which is crazy. Quite turny too, more so than that surfer.
@@jeffstewart4162 Stoked to hear! We for sure agree .... love that board!
Any Korua pencil vs cafe racer videos in the works?
OHHH thats a good one to do - we have them here and will try ! in short we Pencil in POW and Trench the Cafe!
Would it be possible to exchanges my mountain twin for the one in the video (I got a black bottom but would’ve loved the blue bottom). Lol. 😅
For an intermediate to advanced board, that likes all mountain, little park but generally a quick and aggressive rider, would you recommend this or the Captia Merc?
Amazing audio!
Thanks for video! Which of those boards would you pick up for nimbleness/ tight tree lines?
Thank you
the Salomon Highpath
I see shops pushing it but it has no reviews says something about the board. I almost bought it it’s expensive. Went with the Yes Basic instead
Great episode! Is the Banked Country for '24 much different than last year's?
The tail was a bit more of a pin tail last year and I heard that it was a little bit stiffer last year as well. I own the 24 Banked Country and I absolutely love it!
So pick your line uninc for a around 180lbs ? I’m doubting 155 or 157. Bootsize 10-10,5 depending on brand. I ride the alps I am higher intermediate or a tad more but far from pro and far from done with learning at 40 of age
go 155 , you will love it
@@Riders_Lounge thx 🙏
Looking in to Korua boards for some time now, but want to know with which board you can compare the Otto the best.
Tried myself the Salomon assasin 159,jones frontier 159 and lib tech terrain wrecker 157. Now one a skate banana but want something more all-mountain and carving suited and stiffer than the skate banana for extra stability when carving and making speed.
I am 179 cm, boot size 27,0 MP and 56-62 kg over time.
Now own the skate banana in 152.
Otto 153 or look at the Banked Country 155!
When can we expect the directional free ride video?!? Can’t wait
The Low snow season sure made it tricky! We are getting proper snow now and testing 2025 Models!
Hey Im 185lbs with a size 6 lol im 5'8.
Im actually in a size 7 wide boot because i couldnt get a size 6 boot that fit well the bloody feet are nearly as wide as they are long lol.
I dont ride switch or jump just cruise around.
I bought a warpig in the small in 148 cause of my small foot what do you think?
What board would you recommend?
Yea we would recommend bigger for sure - Check out a Capita Aeronaut 155 , Jones Stratos ( 53 or 56 ) or the Gnu Banked Country 155 ! The waist sizes will be totally fine and you will benefit from the added contact
So sick guys. How would you compare the Otto and the Hovercraft?
We would Lean to freestyle for the OTTO and Freeride for the HOVER ... let the tail shape decide!
Hey guys what would you say is probably the biggest difference between the Jones MTN twin and the stratos? I just picked up the mtn twin in a splitboard and I couldn’t be any more excited. I’m on the east coast so now deep powder ahaha
But I am in Quebec so we go get a decent amount of snow compared to the rest of the east
The tail is the biggest difference - and how the side cut will exit - we tent to think of the Stratos as a " Freeride" and the Twin as an All Mountain.....but if you are into hard carving and more directional riding then we choose the Stratos!
@@Riders_Loungefor carving only do you prefer the stratos or aviator?
aviator ! @@jackieliu1232
I’d be interested if you tested the ride deep fake and how it competed to the others
Totally need your advice, guys. I juat cant make my choice between Nidecker alpha apx, Burton Hometown Hero and Jones Aviator 2.0 (all boards is 2024 season) as one board quiver . Help me please)
Capita 😊
I own and love the first year’s Banked Country. Do the changes warrant me upgrading?
Easy Answer is yes - especially because we love the new tail design . Stability in all aspects is greater and you can really hammer the apex of a turn now! ( BUT , if you only have 25 or so days on the other.... its likely still in great shape and should be ridden more! )
@@Riders_LoungeThanks!
What would you suggest for a 135 lbs, 5'5 women with long feets! got a have men's 9.5 because women size don't work. Looking for allmountain mainly riding groomed terrain because powder is so rare in our place. Not doing park.
The Korua Transition Finder or the Pencil are great wider boards we see a lot of our shop gals riding! Check those first and thx for watching :)
alright I give up, what does the WFO base stand for?
Burton Process didn’t make the list?! Wow 🤯
Were those Flow bindings on your board?
I’m aware the never summer proto fr isn’t on this list but would you recommend the pyl dcp or the proto fr triple camber for an aggressive all mountain powder focused board ? I’m 6’2 and 220lbs , been riding for 24 years , this will be my first year not being a park rat . I wear a size 12 high country or hell bound in a size large union atlas so I need something to accommodate my feet ( 260+ waist width)? Btw fantastic reviews as always .
The PYL , no question!!
Is that the “winter in the north woods” painting?
Korua, please make a 150 Otto! Please!!
Hey y’all. New subscriber here, What’s your guys opinion on the wicked directive? Good all mountain. There’s not many reviews on the brand in general.
Does the T. Rice pro fall somewhere above below or in between these boards? Just asking for reference
It has been tested but didn’t make our top list for all mountain !
I picked up a jones mountain twin, and my edge is now delaminating off of my top sheet. Not sure if I want to buy another jones board or not. Any thoughts?
If this wasn’t from impact then will fall under warranty for sure - Jones has a great replacement program there !
@@Riders_Lounge I ended up being able to just return the board to rei and then I bought myself a Salomon assassin pro. Just don’t trust the jones quality anymore.
Dumb question I know (I'm a noob) but are white snowboards harder to learn with (being that they blend in with the snow).
No, Color wont affect the Ride!