Summary of the podcast, I loved it so much, I decided to make notes out of it, correct me if I made an error in my writing, I'm happy to any correction ep15 - A Period of Transition - Plotinus Q. Why can an all-powerful loving God exist and still allow evil to exist in the world? - 250 AD, late antiquity - Commonly known as the crisis of the 3rd century - Terrifying life around this age - Population reduced by a third 1/3 - Many had to migrate from Rome - Are you mind with a body? or a body with a mind? - Moving into a place in the history of philosophy where it starts moving in tandem with that of religion - Monotheistic religion - Christianity - Not all books see christianity as philosophy A brief history of thought by luc ferry - A skeleton of philosophy - Philosophy and religion are 2 things that search for the same thing - We fear irreversibility - philosophy - end of illusion, end the fear of death, - Religion - now is just an illusion, the better being is in the next life - Physics and methaphysics is just to know where we are to quell the fear of irreversibility Christianity - Different from what it is today - all sources from this period is subject to question - surge of christianity to this time period - conclusion - humans are a mind with a body - resembles an imprisoned spiritual being, confined - your body isn't you - Christianity gave personalized salvation Plotinus - sage-like quality
Q. Why can an all-powerful loving God exist and still allow evil to exist in the world? - because evil does not exist - you're looking at things in the wrong way, its because of the absence of good - Effecient cost - living things have inherent qualities Plotinus Philosohy - 3 tiers 1. Unity - the one, the good, God, beyond being, beyong description, the perfect form 2. The intellect - the world of forms, where we exist, the world we can sense, the unified imperfect world 3. The soul - to create and organise the physical world - The one overflows and gives rise to the intellect and the intellect overflows and gives rise to the soul - by understanding how far removed we are from the one, we can understand why evil exist Question of the week Q. What adversity has life thrown you way that developed who you are today?
Absolutely. Most of the big philosophies in the classical period were indistinguishable from religion, and more often than not, incorporated some kind of divine power in their metaphysics. It's absurd to say that say neoplatonism was a philosophy as distinguished from Christianity which was a religion. Not only did many philosophies include ideas about some form of deity, the big ones were seen as total way of life, for their adherents, a system by which they tried to live their lives - much as religions are - see Hadot on this. Another thing, there was not of a distinction between the religious and the secular - which is a modern phenomenon.
Thank you. I am working through a graduate-level intro to philosophy course and I am a born-again evangelical Christian. I am genuinely grateful that you shared plenty of information to reflect upon. In your intro, it appears that you spoke about the challenges of and perhaps your reservation about communicating the origins of Christianity and how Christianity relates to philosophy. For me, I don't worry about what folks may think or say about me personally because the entire Christian experience rests on the fact of the resurrection of Jesus Christ as recorded in the Holy Scriptures. It's not about me, but about how much God loves humanity and what He did for humanity (John 3:16) to give humanity the opportunity to experience His love and eternal life with Him. The resurrection of Jesus Christ proves that God loves His creation (human beings) and is personally involved in the lives of His creation. The resurrection of Jesus Christ was an absolute undeniable miracle! By resurrecting Jesus from the dead, God literally demonstrated that He alone was the prime mover of the universe. By accepting Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior and putting my faith and trust in Him alone, I am granted forgiveness of my sins (moral shortcomings based upon God's Word) and granted eternal life with the hope of being resurrected from the dead and spending eternity with Jesus Christ. Upon His resurrection, Jesus proved that His testimony (as recorded in the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) is trustworthy, reliable, and applicable to one's faith and practice and that He is the only way, the only door, the only truth (John 17:17), and the only source of eternal life. In 1 Corinthians chapter 15, the Apostle Paul states that the historical fact of Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection is based upon numerous undeniable eyewitness accounts. Paul himself met Jesus in His resurrected form on the road to Damascus (Acts chapter 9). Getting back to 1 Corinthians chapter 15 verses 16 - 19 (and this is the most important point for the reader): First, if Jesus Christ was not raised from the dead, the Christian's belief (in a sin-free eternal afterlife with God) is in vain, and there is no remedy for the human consequence of sin (eternal separation from a holy God in a place called Hell due to sin--rejection of Jesus Christ is the ultimate sin). Second, those whose faith is founded in the Christian faith should be pitied because their faith is in vain and they themselves have no hope in the afterlife, no hope of having their moral shortcomings (sins against God) forgiven, and no hope of experiencing eternal life with Jesus Christ. It's for these reasons that I do feel that it is appropriate for Christians to communicate the origins of Christianity--because without the resurrection of Jesus Christ (the empty tomb), there would be no Christianity and there would be no hope in the afterlife. Philosophy may put their vain trust in human wisdom for the answers to death and life after death, but, like the Apostle Paul, I look to the resurrected Jesus Christ alone as recorded in the Holy Scriptures (Acts 4:12; Philippians 2:6-12). Thank you.
@@justamoteofdust Mindlessness/selfishness is lack of the Logos i.e. the ability to conceptualize an individual self you can use to project, to conceive a simulacra in your mind, and your relation to nature
@@justamoteofdust there is nothing wrong with stimulants. If you doubt your intuition, then you can doubt the pillars of philosophy and math which were all built on mysticism. Isaac Newton and Tesla all relied on being in a half awake state (hypnagonic) to get inspiration.
Evil is something unnatural and a choice made by mankind. Animals are incapable of an evil act even when they kill to eat.Man made philosophy seems to be just away to cloak our sins in pretty words and that somehow justifies it in our small minds.
Krishna can never be the one. The one has No form or intelligence. Is not in time and therfore Cannot be krishna. Krishna is the divine intelligence, created by the one. The first emanation, and showed himself as soul in human form. So that makes Krishna the seccond.
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Summary of the podcast, I loved it so much, I decided to make notes out of it, correct me if I made an error in my writing, I'm happy to any correction
ep15 - A Period of Transition - Plotinus
Q. Why can an all-powerful loving God exist and still allow evil to exist in the world?
- 250 AD, late antiquity
- Commonly known as the crisis of the 3rd century
- Terrifying life around this age
- Population reduced by a third 1/3
- Many had to migrate from Rome
- Are you mind with a body? or a body with a mind?
- Moving into a place in the history of philosophy where it starts moving in tandem with that of religion
- Monotheistic religion - Christianity
- Not all books see christianity as philosophy
A brief history of thought by luc ferry
- A skeleton of philosophy
- Philosophy and religion are 2 things that search for the same thing
- We fear irreversibility
- philosophy - end of illusion, end the fear of death,
- Religion - now is just an illusion, the better being is in the next life
- Physics and methaphysics is just to know where we are to quell the fear of irreversibility
Christianity
- Different from what it is today
- all sources from this period is subject to question
- surge of christianity to this time period
- conclusion - humans are a mind with a body
- resembles an imprisoned spiritual being, confined
- your body isn't you
- Christianity gave personalized salvation
Plotinus
- sage-like quality
Q. Why can an all-powerful loving God exist and still allow evil to exist in the world?
- because evil does not exist
- you're looking at things in the wrong way, its because of the absence of good
- Effecient cost
- living things have inherent qualities
Plotinus Philosohy - 3 tiers
1. Unity
- the one, the good, God, beyond being, beyong description, the perfect form
2. The intellect
- the world of forms, where we exist, the world we can sense, the unified imperfect world
3. The soul
- to create and organise the physical world
- The one overflows and gives rise to the intellect and the intellect overflows and gives rise to the soul
- by understanding how far removed we are from the one, we can understand why evil exist
Question of the week
Q. What adversity has life thrown you way that developed who you are today?
Thank you so much! Now I understand where CS Lewis got a lot of his ideas!
What u said about the distinction between religion and philosophy, is exactly what neoplatonism was, a religion...
Absolutely. Most of the big philosophies in the classical period were indistinguishable from religion, and more often than not, incorporated some kind of divine power in their metaphysics. It's absurd to say that say neoplatonism was a philosophy as distinguished from Christianity which was a religion. Not only did many philosophies include ideas about some form of deity, the big ones were seen as total way of life, for their adherents, a system by which they tried to live their lives - much as religions are - see Hadot on this. Another thing, there was not of a distinction between the religious and the secular - which is a modern phenomenon.
Life throws life at me, every day
The Eainedes of Platinus set the stage for every religion created after.
Gotta admit, my wardrobe is in fact in a pile in the middle of the floor getting wrinkly.
Well, only my pants are like that because I dgaf about whether my pants are wrinkly or not.
I have a pile. I feel bad now.
lol same.
Thank you. I am working through a graduate-level intro to philosophy course and I am a born-again evangelical Christian. I am genuinely grateful that you shared plenty of information to reflect upon. In your intro, it appears that you spoke about the challenges of and perhaps your reservation about communicating the origins of Christianity and how Christianity relates to philosophy. For me, I don't worry about what folks may think or say about me personally because the entire Christian experience rests on the fact of the resurrection of Jesus Christ as recorded in the Holy Scriptures. It's not about me, but about how much God loves humanity and what He did for humanity (John 3:16) to give humanity the opportunity to experience His love and eternal life with Him. The resurrection of Jesus Christ proves that God loves His creation (human beings) and is personally involved in the lives of His creation. The resurrection of Jesus Christ was an absolute undeniable miracle! By resurrecting Jesus from the dead, God literally demonstrated that He alone was the prime mover of the universe. By accepting Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior and putting my faith and trust in Him alone, I am granted forgiveness of my sins (moral shortcomings based upon God's Word) and granted eternal life with the hope of being resurrected from the dead and spending eternity with Jesus Christ. Upon His resurrection, Jesus proved that His testimony (as recorded in the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) is trustworthy, reliable, and applicable to one's faith and practice and that He is the only way, the only door, the only truth (John 17:17), and the only source of eternal life. In 1 Corinthians chapter 15, the Apostle Paul states that the historical fact of Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection is based upon numerous undeniable eyewitness accounts. Paul himself met Jesus in His resurrected form on the road to Damascus (Acts chapter 9). Getting back to 1 Corinthians chapter 15 verses 16 - 19 (and this is the most important point for the reader): First, if Jesus Christ was not raised from the dead, the Christian's belief (in a sin-free eternal afterlife with God) is in vain, and there is no remedy for the human consequence of sin (eternal separation from a holy God in a place called Hell due to sin--rejection of Jesus Christ is the ultimate sin). Second, those whose faith is founded in the Christian faith should be pitied because their faith is in vain and they themselves have no hope in the afterlife, no hope of having their moral shortcomings (sins against God) forgiven, and no hope of experiencing eternal life with Jesus Christ. It's for these reasons that I do feel that it is appropriate for Christians to communicate the origins of Christianity--because without the resurrection of Jesus Christ (the empty tomb), there would be no Christianity and there would be no hope in the afterlife. Philosophy may put their vain trust in human wisdom for the answers to death and life after death, but, like the Apostle Paul, I look to the resurrected Jesus Christ alone as recorded in the Holy Scriptures (Acts 4:12; Philippians 2:6-12). Thank you.
27:00 reality depends on amount of unity. In other words, being is folded, like in Heidegger’s Einführing im die Metaphysik
So pain is not a something bad, but an absence of something good... rather controversial I'd say
The usual case of depression is lack of being able to do or understand
Fuck god even if he exists.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Junko_Furuta
@@justamoteofdust Mindlessness/selfishness is lack of the Logos i.e. the ability to conceptualize an individual self you can use to project, to conceive a simulacra in your mind, and your relation to nature
@@VVeltanschauung187 go easy on the weed bro!
@@justamoteofdust there is nothing wrong with stimulants. If you doubt your intuition, then you can doubt the pillars of philosophy and math which were all built on mysticism. Isaac Newton and Tesla all relied on being in a half awake state (hypnagonic) to get inspiration.
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Autism has been my problem
Ammonius saccas . -- sacca (am) monius -- Shakyamuni
What relation ?
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Just like Romania today...
Evil is something unnatural and a choice made by mankind. Animals are incapable of an evil act even when they kill to eat.Man made philosophy seems to be just away to cloak our sins in pretty words and that somehow justifies it in our small minds.
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Krishna is the One
Krishna can never be the one.
The one has No form or intelligence. Is not in time and therfore Cannot be krishna. Krishna is the divine intelligence, created by the one. The first emanation, and showed himself as soul in human form. So that makes Krishna the seccond.
Plotinus on God, omnipotence, good and evil? Walking his wits ...no realistic solution here to survive life.