Wonder Bread, builds bodies nine different ways - and rifle powder kind of is one of them. Actually, I'd rather shoot it than eat it. I can't even call it real bread.
I mentioned this before but I think I'll keep mentioning it in hopes it gains some kind of traction. I'd like to see activated carbon like is used in fish tank and tap water filters. It's basically the opposite structure as carbon black. It's basically charcoal that's been treated with acid to make it super micro porous and dramatically increase its surface area. I know people want to find super cheap options, but, I really think this could be really high performing.
Burns super slow. In short it's too clean per se. Charcoal fit for pyro use has a couple of impurities that are required to function and so many of them that it's more magic than science. My suspicion though is the metal oxides in the form of ash can act as a catalyst both in the formation of charcoal and during the burning of the finished product, and that the charcoal has a high phenol/creosote content (in spite of them being volatiles.)
Now that you have started on this journey of black powder exploration it got me thinking. Old white linen bed sheets that have been washed many times over should be free of most impurities that may have been present when new(ish). Worth a shot.
I had an old buddy 50 yrs ago who used to compress his powder a bit by tossing a big heavy brass ramrod down on it hard until twanged and jumped up a foot or so where he skillfully caugth
I'm loving this series. Totally didn't see this one coming. and its telltale of your solid procedure that you can even make wonderbread powder shoot just 100fps shy of Goex. Even damn wonderbread gets a fair shake! Keep on going.
Wonder bread and grain box processed foods usually have 28% wood cellulose filler, listed as “fiber”. Basically indigestible material. Wonder bread is just 72% short is being toilet paper. “Not the worst powder” were the words used I think, it’s almost wood, so it should be shoot able. Suggested products to make charcoal. Corn cobs, chopsticks construction paper (the kid stuff), willow leaves (or any kind of leaf)
Keep them coming my man! I am LOVING this series! Great job on giving everything a fair shake! We know the sap in pine doesn't make the best powder, but they did use fat wood for the sulfur content. If you get REALLY bored I guess you could make charcoal out of fat wood to see how it works.
I bet cornstarch or plain old bamboo would make some light and fluffy charcoal! It’s funny that other carbon sources like bread starch make usable powder, but the chemistry makes sense. Tree cellulose and wonderbread starch are both made from nothing but glucose rings, just connected in a different orientation. These vids are awesome!
Looking over the suggestions, I think a likely choice would be corn stalks; fast growing with a pithy center. Also like coffee bean/grounds just for what it could smell like. My fastest powders so far are Sycamore, Staghorn Sumac, and Big leaf Willow.
Awesome! These are my favorite vids... I can't wait for the Scotts... Maybe pine cones or lawn grass would be good... Dried lawn grass would be really interesting for obvious reasons... Thanks
man, that crust joke got me good, if you're this funny and talented enough to make black powder out of all this strange stuff, I might just need to subscribe!
I live in an area of Texas that has two native woods that might be interesting to see if it was worth a darn. Mesquite and Mountain Juniper. The Mesquite is used mainly for BBQ wood and the Mountain Juniper is mostly used for fence post since it has high rot resistance. Both woods burn extremely hot. As always I have enjoyed your presentations.
Corn I think would be very dirty. I used to burn corn for heat for my house for about 4-5 years, and it would only take about a day and I would have a clinker in the burn box about the size of a brick, and when it cooled it was very hard, until it absorbed moisture from the air, at which time it would fall apart. Wood pellets would burn, and the ash blow out of the burn box and I could run a week to week and 1/2 before having to vacuum it out.
Dried flowers sounds like the most hippie boom boom dust ever, I like it. Grass on the other hand is free so it's very interesting to see how it performs as self defense dark sand.
Almost anything that can be charred (tecnically called pyrolisis) can make charcoal; some not suitable for BP but some others are way better, maybe a mix with balsa and that specific toilet paper could make the best compromise between clean and powerful BP, but if there were some R/C club near you could have some balsa from crashed RC planes. As far as i know "wonder" bread adds some corn syrup to their mix, maybe another brand that don't add sweetener can make a little better BP. Thanks for sharing and as always the best videos!
Okay you definitely have me wanting a flintlock and making my own powder. I never thought that charcoal would make that big a difference. Im going to start with Basswood. Please keep this going! This is interesting and fascinating to say the least. Corn husks and cobs should definitely be on the list as well as popcorn. If you can stand the smell. I'm thinking corn stalk might be the ticket?
Man ,this is just getting plumb entertaining. ! BUT shows that we can make bang bang self defense Dust out of about anything . Some better than others but will still make the bad guys oil light come on. Thanks for a GREAT channel. M. B.
I live in Finland and they are the top coffee drinking country in the world. "1. Finland - 12 kg/26 lbs - Finland is the world's biggest consumer of coffee on a per-person basis. The average Finn drinks nearly four cups a day. Coffee is so popular in Finland that two 10-minute coffee breaks are legally mandated for Finnish workers." so if black powder made with used coffee beans is OK well I think I know what I going to be doing?
I always just use spruce, mostly because I use a lot of spruce at work and always have plenty of drops piled up. But I do really enjoy these videos, thanks for taking the time to try out various materials and sharing the results.
Try dry sample of quaking aspen . No bark or heart wood . Light , no resin , burns fast , burns clean , burns hot . Here in northern Maine folks call it biscuit wood . Might be hard to get charcoal out of it .
Ditto. I have used Bigtooth Aspen here in Central Indiana and it makes a fast powder, about 70 fps faster than GOEX. No problem making charcoal with it.
Many bread companies do put plasticizers and countless other chemicals in their bread. It amazes me what we're all so willing to eat these days. There really shouldn't be anything in bread that smells like chemicals or especially plastic when it's burned to the point of being charcoal.
Reading through the ingredients in Wonder bread, I see no such plastcizers, and can't find any credible references to them. Would you care to elaborate your statement?
@@Deveyus I didn't say Wonder bread specifically, and at one point people were boycotting Subway for having them in their bread. Just google "plasticizers in bread". It's that easy. I just did it in two seconds and found articles on it, so there's no reason you can't. They're actually in many foods and not just bread/wheat containing foods... and also, just because something is a "plasticizer" does not mean it's made out of a dangerous chemical. There are natural chemicals that are used as plasticizers... but being "natural" does not guarantee that they're safe either though.
@Deveyus Food grade plasticizers can also be added to edible films to make them more flexible and less brittle. Some examples of food grade plasticizers include sorbitol, glycerol, mannitol, sucrose, and polyethylene glycol. Wonder bread is known to have Mono and diglycerides Exthoxylated mono and diglycerides
Thank you I have subscribed and liked each video very entertaining. You have motivated me into shooting my black powder rifle again. Thank you and stay safe!!!
Love the video. I know it takes a lot of effort for evey BP run. It would be good to come up with a charcoal test. That way you can just make a BP run only for the charcoal that passes. Looks like folks have hundreds of recommendations. Appreciate all the hard work.
Great video Jake, you are teaching us all that we can make bp out of anything, just that much of it isn't what you want in a flinter or percussion. We are warming up here so I will be trying some different char in the not so near future, not much else to do.
It’s amazing to me just how much difference your charcoal source has on the performance of the powder. I wonder what would be had from the dead roadside grasses we have around here in SWLA.
Looking forward to your density video! Maybe you can delve into how to adjust the weight/volume if the batch is way off? I suppose a powder could be re-pucked at possibly a higher pressure to even out the ratio?
Great Mucker ,, I love your humour ,and especially your tenacious approach to all the testing , your doing great work for the BP community, I would like to see if there is any life left in those coffee grounds . Best regards. Reg
Powdered cotton flocking as used in fiberglass fill is real cotton, just ground up in small partials. I heard it comes from the left over fuzz on cotton seed as it is being processed. It looks like bleached wheat flower with bigger pieces than actual dust. I plan to make nitrocellulose out of it. I was thinking it might make a really good single source and clean charcoal.
Used coffee grounds seems like a good experiment. Plentiful and in common use. If it is effective it would provide another use besides a soil amendment. Enjoying the videos.
Question: Given all of the antique firearms propellant you’ve made is batches for testing, do you consume the entire batch during testing? I was curious to what the remaining mediocre to bad propellant what you do with it? Fireworks or hand salutes?
I get some bad powders also so I reclaim the salt peter. Mix the powder with boiling water, filter the sludge first with coffee filter then with finer filter. Put the clear liquid in refrigerator and come back later to filter out the KNO3 crystals with paint filter. Can also use this method if you are unsure of your salt peter purity.
Sir: thank you for the videos I have been pondering the charcoal made from the alder buck thorn the Swiss may be using a sub species or a different Species. Just like the different willows there is so many subspecies if that makes sense!
@@WonderfulWinoI don’t think there’s a such thing as “way too clean” . I think you meant to say way too lean . Possibly but how would that have anything to do with the stoichiometric ratio which is what determines lean or rich?
Looking forward to the used coffee grounds test because my granddad told me once about how they used to collect used coffee grounds for the war effort. "Really?" "Yes, they used them to make the black powder for hand grenades..." Thinking back on it with a lifetime of learning since then, I think it's more likely they were used to make activated charcoal because lots of need for purification & filtration at industrial scales of making chemicals to make the explosives to win the war. But who knows? We will, after your test!
Excellent information as always. I wonder if the chemical smell is from the preservatives? As several others have mentioned grass clippings/hay/straw would be interesting. That's something most everyone would have access to and somewhat inexpensive.
Have you considered taking for say the three best powders you have made and combine them to see the results? Char up some cotton, tp maybe balsa and mill together maybe?
I love this channel I was at a friends house who carves Tiki’s out of palm trees he was burning the scrap pieces in his fire pit the night before, I picked up a piece of it Al charred up and almost charcoal it was light and I wondered how that would do in BP
You said it did that to embarrass you when your rifle flashed ithe pan. I think you did it on purpose to demonstrate your steely nerves and super human, rock steady holding ability. If not for the rising pan smoke, l would have thought the video was paused. That muzzle remained absolutely motionless! Respect!
I stumble across a booklet (35 pages) giving a small history of how they (Pouderie D’Aubonne S.A.) make Swiss BP. Of note is the following: "The wood is aged for 3 years prior to being used to make charcoal in the plant. The Alder Buckthorn is cut in late winter just after the sap rose in the tree with the thawing of the ground. The sap at that time of year being rich in sugar which the tree had stored in its root system. This sugar acting as food for the tree while it sets out flowers and develops leaves to the point where they would produce the sugar the tree needs for growth. This sugar remains in the wood after it has dried. The finished charcoal, in addition to having carbonized cellulose would also contain some caramelized sugar. Simple experiments have shown that this inclusion of caramelized sugar is of benefit in the charcoal in the finished powder." "Charring conditions. Sporting powder. 300 to 320 degrees Centigrade (572 - 608 F) for 8 hours which gives a fixed carbon content of about 65% in the finished charcoal."
I would be quite interested to see how charcoal made from lawn grass would work. Just any old grass that you might cut, be it from your lawn, range, Or anywhere else. Edit- Alternatively. Charcoal made from tree bark, No specific kind of bark, Any will do
I remember seeing some completely charred tortillas on my dads grill after he forgot them in a barbecue. If youre continuing these wacky black powder recipes id like to see how well this works.
I really enjoy the homemade B.P. Videos. With B.P. Becoming hard to find again I would like to find a usable substitute for small game, that I can make from readily available material. Sulphur and salt Peter (stump killer) are readily available but finding good charcoal is a different thing. Have you tried the pine or cedar bedding shavings as a charcoal source?
Good Sunday afternoon everyone. Appreciate the info and videos. Just curious , and im sure it wouldn't make good powder but due to the ease availability. How about dry leaves ?? Not sure wich type or ??
I'm new to your channel and pretty clueless about BP guns so I have to ask.. What gun are you shooting? I love the style. Please don't tell me it's an original from the civil war and it's worth about $10k lol.. I'm really poor and want something I can just mess around with without breaking my socialized insecurity check. Oh, and I LOVE your channel! Very informative!
If I remember right, I think that in England, the Alder tree was much used for gunpowder charcoal, also where it grew was not too close to human habitations (towns).
Hi, Jake i m Fredrik Enberg from Sweden here! A black powder entusiast. Following your great videos.🤠👍Have you tryed make Coffee blackpowder from coffee beans? That would be cool to Watch. Charcoal them in a can and do your mix.🤠✌️
I had watched the video yesterday and today I was opening a package and remembered you asking for ideas. So, If you haven't thought about it or someone else hasn't mentioned it, how about plain brown cardboard boxing material. Looking forward to your Scott toilet paper video, because that is what I have. Waiting on items so I can build a ball mill and get started making my own. Have already made some slow fuse for my cannon kit that came today.
after having tried several woods and toilet paper, I will soon try pine cones, I am trying the .308 (like your British .303 I really liked it) I ordered a refill kit and a bullet mold I follow you closely, it's passionate
I have no experience with making or using bp, just here for the fun of the channel. But i've read pine cones are mostly used in pyrotechnics to make tiger tail effects. Lots of long burning sparks. Read online it fouls like hell.
I have been following your charcoal test. Great Thank you, very informative.But ingredient I've been wondering about is saw dust, like from a cabinet shop. Anyhow just a thought.
Yes, I second what Jake said. You can find Black Willow growing along streams in most of Texas. Weeping Willow does not work as well. These are normally used as landscape plants, but grow wild also. Weeping willow has long narrow leaves, 5-6" long. Black Willow leaves are about 3" and are about a half inch wide in the middle. I have tried Sycamore, China Berry and Grape Vine, but they don't work as well.
Charcoal is a hydrocarbon. So when you make your “carbon source”, it will always have residual oils left in it, varying in weights. With most of the light weight gases and oils being already burned off. Washing carcoal removed the lightest oils first, which are the easiest to light and leaves rhe heavier oils that are hard to burn. When you got the carbon black, its all the heavies. Same with sugar or others. Different oils and amounts come in different woods, and my guess is the best black powder is made from “gasoline not motor oil” types of terpenes
Wow, always entertaining, & really enjoy your clips as very informative. No matter how bad always show it. Eg, miss fire for #3. Could have edited it but didnt. Great work. Cant wait to see whats next.👍
Another very interesting and informative Video, thanks for that! I would still like you to do a test of some BAMBOO TOILET paper. And for something different how about using some old, dried bones or some leather?? Love your videos keep up the awesome work , cant wait for your next one!!
Have You tried using old hemp rope fibres , or if Your in a State which allows hemp cultivation how about trying hemp stems . I just had a mad idea - Tumbleweed , would be an interesting test . Keep up the excellent work ,I'm really enjoying Your testing Thanks . Shoot Straight Stay Safe & Stay Well .
As a mechanic i would love to see you use shop towels, not clean ones either. Randomly used shop towels. Maybe with some grease, oil, anti-freeze, whatever you wiped up. I'd also like to see you make brown powder, where you don't fully char the wood. On another note, thinking back to your Duplex load. I've heard of people using flash paper as part of it. Either instead of the smokeless powder, or as a wad to separate the two powders.
From the pressure used to seat each additional ball, and the increase in velocity after each additional reload, I would suggest that you are pushing incompletely burned powder residue onto the fresh powder. Just a thought.
Corn husk, or even corn stalks, as they can be very cheap to free. I wonder about the stalks, as if I remember right, there is a very light 'pith' that might also be tried on its own, in the stalks. With corn, there are different species to try as well. Field corn, sweet corn and Indian corn have different leaves/husks, and even the stalks are different for the different species. But I wonder if it will make a good charcoal?
I have heard of a very old charcoal source and I thought I would ask if you have tried it, and that is black walnut shell. From the information I heard, black walnut shell is very dense and makes a very nice charcoal for small, tiny actually, forges used about 200 years ago, maybe more. The tiny forges were made and used to produce small metal castings in shops where they didn't want to fire up the normal forge, as it would be too much heat for tiny projects, but they still needed a decent heat to melt regular metals, zinc, lead, tin, and etc. I found the information while researching small forges for my small projects, and when I learned about the walnut shell, a candle light flickered on. If you don't have an easy access to walnut shell, I happen to live in an area where I am surrounded by black walnut trees, which is why I call my farm the Walnut Grove Farm, and I also have these minions that shuck, clean, and stack the shells for drying, and I could send you a bag of shells to test!
The shells of nuts typically contain lots of lignin. While it will produce a char with high calorific value good for forging, I doubt it will work well in BP.
There is a lot of Cottonwood where I live, and as it ages after it dies, it gets super punky and light, to the point it is like styrofoam, almost no weight to it. I wonder if it would make a good charcoal to try. I’ll have to char a chunk of it and see how dense it is.
Just curious. What kind of scale do you use when weighing the ingredients for your powder when making it? And what unit of measurement do you use, gram or grain? If so, what's your preferred measurements? Thanks in advance!
Ain't no way. Bread black powder, this channel is living up to it's name.
Wonder Bread, builds bodies nine different ways - and rifle powder kind of is one of them. Actually, I'd rather shoot it than eat it. I can't even call it real bread.
he's On it!
I tried Food Bank random slightly moldy bread. Was Decent and easy to mill the char. I'm cheap! I meant "GREEN!"
Bamboo charcoal - try it! It's the cleanest burning charcoal. No sugar, PLEASE no sugar. I can't imagine the gumming.
I'll have to give it a try just to see. I always use willow since there's no shortage of willow trees on my farm
I mentioned this before but I think I'll keep mentioning it in hopes it gains some kind of traction. I'd like to see activated carbon like is used in fish tank and tap water filters. It's basically the opposite structure as carbon black. It's basically charcoal that's been treated with acid to make it super micro porous and dramatically increase its surface area. I know people want to find super cheap options, but, I really think this could be really high performing.
Burns super slow. In short it's too clean per se. Charcoal fit for pyro use has a couple of impurities that are required to function and so many of them that it's more magic than science. My suspicion though is the metal oxides in the form of ash can act as a catalyst both in the formation of charcoal and during the burning of the finished product, and that the charcoal has a high phenol/creosote content (in spite of them being volatiles.)
Tried activated bamboo charcoal, and it's very slow, as mentioned above. Made a batch of regular bamboo charcoal, and it was very fast burning.
Now that you have started on this journey of black powder exploration it got me thinking. Old white linen bed sheets that have been washed many times over should be free of most impurities that may have been present when new(ish). Worth a shot.
I had an old buddy 50 yrs ago who used to compress his powder a bit by tossing a big heavy brass ramrod down on it hard until twanged and jumped up a foot or so where he skillfully caugth
I'm loving this series. Totally didn't see this one coming. and its telltale of your solid procedure that you can even make wonderbread powder shoot just 100fps shy of Goex. Even damn wonderbread gets a fair shake! Keep on going.
Loved it. Used coffee grounds would be cool to see. Its light and fluffy might be good
Barber shop floor sweepings, hair.
Palm tree wood, it is very light when dry.
Good stuff, thanks.
I second the human hair BP.
stinky? I wonder
You, sir, are having way too much fun. 🙂 Thanks for another great video.
Watch out, the fun police will get ya!
Theres nothing more American then Making blackpowder out of things like Toilet paper or wonder bread..🤠🫡🇺🇲
How do you suppose? More like something Africans who can’t get black powder would do.
Just because We can and do is what makes it American.
I mean original production method meant you needed to collect your urine and pour it on compost so….
And next week…wait for it…Fruit Loops!
Wonder bread and grain box processed foods usually have 28% wood cellulose filler, listed as “fiber”. Basically indigestible material. Wonder bread is just 72% short is being toilet paper. “Not the worst powder” were the words used I think, it’s almost wood, so it should be shoot able.
Suggested products to make charcoal.
Corn cobs, chopsticks construction paper (the kid stuff), willow leaves (or any kind of leaf)
Keep them coming my man! I am LOVING this series! Great job on giving everything a fair shake! We know the sap in pine doesn't make the best powder, but they did use fat wood for the sulfur content. If you get REALLY bored I guess you could make charcoal out of fat wood to see how it works.
I bet cornstarch or plain old bamboo would make some light and fluffy charcoal! It’s funny that other carbon sources like bread starch make usable powder, but the chemistry makes sense. Tree cellulose and wonderbread starch are both made from nothing but glucose rings, just connected in a different orientation. These vids are awesome!
French BPowder is on the road !
Can'u belive it ?
Great chanel and super 'instinctive' and great experimental analyses !
Please more !
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Looking over the suggestions, I think a likely choice would be corn stalks; fast growing with a pithy center. Also like coffee bean/grounds just for what it could smell like. My fastest powders so far are Sycamore, Staghorn Sumac, and Big leaf Willow.
Awesome! These are my favorite vids... I can't wait for the Scotts... Maybe pine cones or lawn grass would be good... Dried lawn grass would be really interesting for obvious reasons...
Thanks
Second dried lawn grass
ha ha i was thinking dead leaves
I'm doing Grass! not of lawns. or Weed chronic? stumps with bark or outer removed, looks blue and VERY light.@@blaahster
did leaves, very slow, hard to light. @@bradylangley113
Horse manure
man, that crust joke got me good, if you're this funny and talented enough to make black powder out of all this strange stuff, I might just need to subscribe!
I live in an area of Texas that has two native woods that might be interesting to see if it was worth a darn. Mesquite and Mountain Juniper. The Mesquite is used mainly for BBQ wood and the Mountain Juniper is mostly used for fence post since it has high rot resistance. Both woods burn extremely hot. As always I have enjoyed your presentations.
Both are dense woods.....you need the opposite.....the lightest woods make better charcoal for BP
Mesquite is bad, the juniper might be decent as it's similar to ERC
what is ERC? i cant seem to find it. what exactly do the letters stand for please?@@HenrikSherwood
@@hawkpilot6-actual Eastern Red Cedar
That added calcium will make all the difference :) I'm curious about popcorn, if it would turn to charcoal properly.....if not a nice snack.
Corn I think would be very dirty. I used to burn corn for heat for my house for about 4-5 years, and it would only take about a day and I would have a clinker in the burn box about the size of a brick, and when it cooled it was very hard, until it absorbed moisture from the air, at which time it would fall apart. Wood pellets would burn, and the ash blow out of the burn box and I could run a week to week and 1/2 before having to vacuum it out.
What about making powder out of dried flower pedals or dried grass? Love the videos!
Dried flowers sounds like the most hippie boom boom dust ever, I like it.
Grass on the other hand is free so it's very interesting to see how it performs as self defense dark sand.
@victormartin2774 yeah like dandelions, everyone has a neighbor with em.
Yes!! Make hippie boom dust. XDD
Almost anything that can be charred (tecnically called pyrolisis) can make charcoal; some not suitable for BP but some others are way better, maybe a mix with balsa and that specific toilet paper could make the best compromise between clean and powerful BP, but if there were some R/C club near you could have some balsa from crashed RC planes. As far as i know "wonder" bread adds some corn syrup to their mix, maybe another brand that don't add sweetener can make a little better BP. Thanks for sharing and as always the best videos!
Okay you definitely have me wanting a flintlock and making my own powder. I never thought that charcoal would make that big a difference. Im going to start with Basswood.
Please keep this going! This is interesting and fascinating to say the least. Corn husks and cobs should definitely be on the list as well as popcorn. If you can stand the smell. I'm thinking corn stalk might be the ticket?
Horse manure
There are other things you can do with black powder. Estes makes rocket motors.
I seem to remember somewhere about using corn cobs, that was a long time ago tho.
Man ,this is just getting plumb entertaining. ! BUT shows that we can make bang bang self defense Dust out of about anything . Some better than others but will still make the bad guys oil light come on. Thanks for a GREAT channel. M. B.
Used coffee grounds, now that’s recycling! Extremely interesting content, thank you Sir.
Yes sir! I would vote for used coffee grounds. I bet it will smell pretty good at the range…
I live in Finland and they are the top coffee drinking country in the world.
"1. Finland - 12 kg/26 lbs - Finland is the world's biggest consumer of coffee on a per-person basis. The average Finn drinks nearly four cups a day. Coffee is so popular in Finland that two 10-minute coffee breaks are legally mandated for Finnish workers."
so if black powder made with used coffee beans is OK well I think I know what I going to be doing?
@@RoyTelling4 cups? Sounds like an hour into nightshift. 😅 greetings from Germany.
@@Namenloser_ I only drink 3 cups in work!
BUT I do have a half litre cup I made from Stainless Steel tube 60.3mm die LoL I am a welder
I always just use spruce, mostly because I use a lot of spruce at work and always have plenty of drops piled up. But I do really enjoy these videos, thanks for taking the time to try out various materials and sharing the results.
Try dry sample of quaking aspen . No bark or heart wood . Light , no resin , burns fast , burns clean , burns hot . Here in northern Maine folks call it biscuit wood . Might be hard to get charcoal out of it .
Good choice. In Wisconsin we call it Popple. Commonly used to make oriented strand board (OSB) but is probably also used here to make toilet paper.
Ditto. I have used Bigtooth Aspen here in Central Indiana and it makes a fast powder, about 70 fps faster than GOEX. No problem making charcoal with it.
Horse manure for all the above reasons
Many bread companies do put plasticizers and countless other chemicals in their bread. It amazes me what we're all so willing to eat these days. There really shouldn't be anything in bread that smells like chemicals or especially plastic when it's burned to the point of being charcoal.
Reading through the ingredients in Wonder bread, I see no such plastcizers, and can't find any credible references to them. Would you care to elaborate your statement?
@@Deveyus I didn't say Wonder bread specifically, and at one point people were boycotting Subway for having them in their bread. Just google "plasticizers in bread". It's that easy. I just did it in two seconds and found articles on it, so there's no reason you can't. They're actually in many foods and not just bread/wheat containing foods... and also, just because something is a "plasticizer" does not mean it's made out of a dangerous chemical. There are natural chemicals that are used as plasticizers... but being "natural" does not guarantee that they're safe either though.
@Deveyus Food grade plasticizers can also be added to edible films to make them more flexible and less brittle. Some examples of food grade plasticizers include sorbitol, glycerol, mannitol, sucrose, and polyethylene glycol.
Wonder bread is known to have Mono and diglycerides
Exthoxylated mono and diglycerides
Thank you I have subscribed and liked each video very entertaining. You have motivated me into shooting my black powder rifle again. Thank you and stay safe!!!
Glad to hear it. Thank you
I had an old buddy a long time ago who liked to compress his powder a bit by tossing
Love the video. I know it takes a lot of effort for evey BP run. It would be good to come up with a charcoal test. That way you can just make a BP run only for the charcoal that passes. Looks like folks have hundreds of recommendations. Appreciate all the hard work.
Great video Jake, you are teaching us all that we can make bp out of anything, just that much of it isn't what you want in a flinter or percussion. We are warming up here so I will be trying some different char in the not so near future, not much else to do.
Thanks!
Thank you!
It’s amazing to me just how much difference your charcoal source has on the performance of the powder. I wonder what would be had from the dead roadside grasses we have around here in SWLA.
too much silicon inside grass.
south-west lower alabama. lol i use to live near there.
10:50 For all the bad powders, make a base line with pressure treated spruce 2x4. If a powder performs worse, it is not worth the hassle🤗
Looking forward to your density video! Maybe you can delve into how to adjust the weight/volume if the batch is way off? I suppose a powder could be re-pucked at possibly a higher pressure to even out the ratio?
Great Mucker ,, I love your humour ,and especially your tenacious approach to all the testing , your doing great work for the BP community, I would like to see if there is any life left in those coffee grounds . Best regards. Reg
We are watching all these videos but it would be nice to remind us which BP is best. Thanks
These "Premiers" are killing my morale lol
Me to dame
It’s the only way Jake can sneak through the shadow banning
Blackpowder mythbusters.
Oh Lord! First toilet paper, now bread! I can't wait to see this one!
aaahhh, I charred dry dog poo, NO GOOD! parallel developments? or just chance?
You guys are a hoot I have enjoyed and learned a lot here. Keep up the good work.
Thank you
Powdered cotton flocking as used in fiberglass fill is real cotton, just ground up in small partials. I heard it comes from the left over fuzz on cotton seed as it is being processed. It looks like bleached wheat flower with bigger pieces than actual dust. I plan to make nitrocellulose out of it. I was thinking it might make a really good single source and clean charcoal.
Love this series
These videos are just plain FUN !
Used coffee grounds seems like a good experiment. Plentiful and in common use. If it is effective it would provide another use besides a soil amendment. Enjoying the videos.
Another banger video. Keep them coming.
Question:
Given all of the antique firearms propellant you’ve made is batches for testing, do you consume the entire batch during testing?
I was curious to what the remaining mediocre to bad propellant what you do with it?
Fireworks or hand salutes?
We use it for blanks and fire works
I get some bad powders also so I reclaim the salt peter. Mix the powder with boiling water, filter the sludge first with coffee filter then with finer filter. Put the clear liquid in refrigerator and come back later to filter out the KNO3 crystals with paint filter. Can also use this method if you are unsure of your salt peter purity.
Enjoyed the balsa powder test the best. Easy to come by on Scamazon and Hobby Lobby.
Sir: thank you for the videos I have been pondering the charcoal made from the alder buck thorn the Swiss may be using a sub species or a different Species. Just like the different willows there is so many subspecies if that makes sense!
I’d like to see if those wood pellets for the smokers and bbq pits would do any good
burns way too clean
@@WonderfulWinoI don’t think there’s a such thing as “way too clean” . I think you meant to say way too lean . Possibly but how would that have anything to do with the stoichiometric ratio which is what determines lean or rich?
Looking forward to the used coffee grounds test because my granddad told me once about how they used to collect used coffee grounds for the war effort. "Really?" "Yes, they used them to make the black powder for hand grenades..." Thinking back on it with a lifetime of learning since then, I think it's more likely they were used to make activated charcoal because lots of need for purification & filtration at industrial scales of making chemicals to make the explosives to win the war. But who knows? We will, after your test!
Always worth a watch, have you tried a more ancient historical approach and used bamboo?
I have done this myself not awesome but up there
Excellent information as always. I wonder if the chemical smell is from the preservatives? As several others have mentioned grass clippings/hay/straw would be interesting. That's something most everyone would have access to and somewhat inexpensive.
Thank you, I guess you can make the charcoal out of many things, just not equal. I am curious about Scott 1000 sheet TP
Have you considered taking for say the three best powders you have made and combine them to see the results? Char up some cotton, tp maybe balsa and mill together maybe?
I love this channel I was at a friends house who carves Tiki’s out of palm trees he was burning the scrap pieces in his fire pit the night before, I picked up a piece of it Al charred up and almost charcoal it was light and I wondered how that would do in BP
You said it did that to embarrass you when your rifle flashed ithe pan. I think you did it on purpose to demonstrate your steely nerves and super human, rock steady holding ability. If not for the rising pan smoke, l would have thought the video was paused. That muzzle remained absolutely motionless!
Respect!
Great video.liked it.
I stumble across a booklet (35 pages) giving a small history of how they (Pouderie D’Aubonne S.A.) make Swiss BP. Of note is the following:
"The wood is aged for 3 years prior to being used to make charcoal in the plant.
The Alder Buckthorn is cut in late winter just after the sap rose in the tree with the thawing of the ground. The sap at that time of year being rich in sugar which the tree had stored in its root system. This sugar acting as food for the tree while it sets out flowers and develops leaves to the point where they would produce the sugar the tree needs for growth. This sugar remains in the wood after it has dried. The finished charcoal, in addition to having carbonized cellulose would also contain some caramelized sugar. Simple experiments have shown that this inclusion of caramelized sugar is of benefit in the charcoal in the finished powder."
"Charring conditions.
Sporting powder.
300 to 320 degrees Centigrade (572 - 608 F) for 8 hours which gives a fixed carbon content of about 65% in the finished charcoal."
I would be quite interested to see how charcoal made from lawn grass would work. Just any old grass that you might cut, be it from your lawn, range, Or anywhere else.
Edit- Alternatively. Charcoal made from tree bark, No specific kind of bark, Any will do
Agree.
That'd be interesting, i think maybe straw or hay would also be good as well.
Corn stalks, an interesting combination of long fibers and soft low density centers.
Great vid again sir! Was thinking can you make charcoal from chicken bones? Or charred bones in general? 👍
I don’t see why not
I remember seeing some completely charred tortillas on my dads grill after he forgot them in a barbecue. If youre continuing these wacky black powder recipes id like to see how well this works.
I really enjoy the homemade B.P. Videos. With B.P. Becoming hard to find again I would like to find a usable substitute for small game, that I can make from readily available material. Sulphur and salt Peter (stump killer) are readily available but finding good charcoal is a different thing. Have you tried the pine or cedar bedding shavings as a charcoal source?
Yes. The pet bedding charcoal works very well
Orange peels..
for that fresh citrus smell
stumbled on your channel awhile back and love it
Great job !
Cheers !!
Try it Microcrystalline cellulose, is refined cellulose.
I’m so happy to see this. I asked for it on the carbon black video. Fingers crossed it goes well! 😂
Awesome 😂 Yes Ive found that the low density charcoal seems to have a faster ignition but dirty
Original entertainment! Educational too. & a lot of fun on both sides of the screen. Dry bamboo next. Please!
How about leather charcoal? Works well for carburization of mild steel. Keep up the great work ,love these videos.
Good Sunday afternoon everyone. Appreciate the info and videos. Just curious , and im sure it wouldn't make good powder but due to the ease availability. How about dry leaves ?? Not sure wich type or ??
I'm new to your channel and pretty clueless about BP guns so I have to ask.. What gun are you shooting? I love the style. Please don't tell me it's an original from the civil war and it's worth about $10k lol.. I'm really poor and want something I can just mess around with without breaking my socialized insecurity check. Oh, and I LOVE your channel! Very informative!
Would be curious to see corn cob (easier to use corn cob tumbling media, it's already crushed).
If I remember right, I think that in England, the Alder tree was much used for gunpowder charcoal, also where it grew was not too close to human habitations (towns).
Have you tried creosote turned into a black powder?
I could watch this format forever. The more absurd the ingredient the better.
I has been wondering about powder from field grass or maybe straw.
I like the previous suggestions of coffee grounds and quaking aspen. By the way, are you using a wood ramrod or fiberglass with that SMR?
Wood ramrod
Not so bad! If you increase the amount of powder by 20 or 30 grains you might get better velocity?
Hi, Jake i m Fredrik Enberg from Sweden here! A black powder entusiast. Following your great videos.🤠👍Have you tryed make Coffee blackpowder from coffee beans? That would be cool to Watch. Charcoal them in a can and do your mix.🤠✌️
I had watched the video yesterday and today I was opening a package and remembered you asking for ideas. So, If you haven't thought about it or someone else hasn't mentioned it, how about plain brown cardboard boxing material. Looking forward to your Scott toilet paper video, because that is what I have. Waiting on items so I can build a ball mill and get started making my own. Have already made some slow fuse for my cannon kit that came today.
Might be neat to try dry pine needles
wonder if they would be PITCHY?/Dirty burn??
Might be, I'm just thinking of how well they burn, almost like throwing gas on a fire @@happysaylar8263
after having tried several woods and toilet paper, I will soon try pine cones, I am trying the .308 (like your British .303 I really liked it)
I ordered a refill kit and a bullet mold
I follow you closely, it's passionate
I have no experience with making or using bp, just here for the fun of the channel.
But i've read pine cones are mostly used in pyrotechnics to make tiger tail effects. Lots of long burning sparks. Read online it fouls like hell.
@@pinocolada4254 good news, what do they use for tracer bullets?
I have been following your charcoal test. Great Thank you, very informative.But ingredient I've been wondering about is saw dust, like from a cabinet shop. Anyhow just a thought.
Thanks for the video. What is your recommendation for best, most consistent, most readily available charcoal for black powder? I live in Texas
Willow
Yes, I second what Jake said. You can find Black Willow growing along streams in most of Texas. Weeping Willow does not work as well. These are normally used as landscape plants, but grow wild also. Weeping willow has long narrow leaves, 5-6" long. Black Willow leaves are about 3" and are about a half inch wide in the middle. I have tried Sycamore, China Berry and Grape Vine, but they don't work as well.
A black powder with 1% to 2% ammonia nitrate blend should give a cleaner burn and higher speeds.
Great vid!
Charcoal is a hydrocarbon. So when you make your “carbon source”, it will always have residual oils left in it, varying in weights. With most of the light weight gases and oils being already burned off.
Washing carcoal removed the lightest oils first, which are the easiest to light and leaves rhe heavier oils that are hard to burn.
When you got the carbon black, its all the heavies.
Same with sugar or others.
Different oils and amounts come in different woods, and my guess is the best black powder is made from “gasoline not motor oil” types of terpenes
My vote is for corn COB or husk bc of the lower “sugar” but higher carbon and its garbage to many so itd be fun to see
Wow, always entertaining, & really enjoy your clips as very informative. No matter how bad always show it. Eg, miss fire for #3. Could have edited it but didnt. Great work. Cant wait to see whats next.👍
Another very interesting and informative Video, thanks for that! I would still like you to do a test of some BAMBOO TOILET paper. And for something different how about using some old, dried bones or some leather?? Love your videos keep up the awesome work , cant wait for your next one!!
Haven’t read many of the comments or suggestions.
Has cellulose packing peanuts been suggested yet for charcoal?
Have You tried using old hemp rope fibres , or if Your in a State which allows hemp cultivation how about trying hemp stems . I just had a mad idea - Tumbleweed , would be an interesting test . Keep up the excellent work ,I'm really enjoying Your testing Thanks . Shoot Straight Stay Safe & Stay Well .
As a mechanic i would love to see you use shop towels, not clean ones either. Randomly used shop towels. Maybe with some grease, oil, anti-freeze, whatever you wiped up.
I'd also like to see you make brown powder, where you don't fully char the wood.
On another note, thinking back to your Duplex load. I've heard of people using flash paper as part of it. Either instead of the smokeless powder, or as a wad to separate the two powders.
From the pressure used to seat each additional ball, and the increase in velocity after each additional reload, I would suggest that you are pushing incompletely burned powder residue onto the fresh powder. Just a thought.
Corn husk, or even corn stalks, as they can be very cheap to free.
I wonder about the stalks, as if I remember right, there is a very light 'pith' that might also be tried on its own, in the stalks.
With corn, there are different species to try as well. Field corn, sweet corn and Indian corn have different leaves/husks, and even the stalks are different for the different species.
But I wonder if it will make a good charcoal?
I have heard of a very old charcoal source and I thought I would ask if you have tried it, and that is black walnut shell.
From the information I heard, black walnut shell is very dense and makes a very nice charcoal for small, tiny actually, forges used about 200 years ago, maybe more. The tiny forges were made and used to produce small metal castings in shops where they didn't want to fire up the normal forge, as it would be too much heat for tiny projects, but they still needed a decent heat to melt regular metals, zinc, lead, tin, and etc.
I found the information while researching small forges for my small projects, and when I learned about the walnut shell, a candle light flickered on.
If you don't have an easy access to walnut shell, I happen to live in an area where I am surrounded by black walnut trees, which is why I call my farm the Walnut Grove Farm, and I also have these minions that shuck, clean, and stack the shells for drying, and I could send you a bag of shells to test!
The shells of nuts typically contain lots of lignin. While it will produce a char with high calorific value good for forging, I doubt it will work well in BP.
This reminds me more and more every day of Edison's famous search for the perfect light bulb filament... 👍
Great video Sir!! It was good talking with you and Snapper last night too. Definitely enjoyed the conversations. 👍
Wondering about goose down charcoal? Think it's worth a try?
Maybe
Coconut sounds cool.
There is a lot of Cottonwood where I live, and as it ages after it dies, it gets super punky and light, to the point it is like styrofoam, almost no weight to it. I wonder if it would make a good charcoal to try.
I’ll have to char a chunk of it and see how dense it is.
replace some of the saltpeter with ammonium nitrate say about 25%
Wow!!! Bread!!!! Thanks for the video. Made me laugh on this one.
Just curious. What kind of scale do you use when weighing the ingredients for your powder when making it? And what unit of measurement do you use, gram or grain? If so, what's your preferred measurements? Thanks in advance!
I don’t know the brand name but I measure my components in grams