Suspect Snaps After Detectives Reveal Shocking Secret
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- Опубликовано: 16 май 2024
- In today's true crime documentary, we're covering the case of Fontae Buelow and analyzing it from an educational psychological, forensic and legal perspective.
NOTE FOR RUclips: This is an educational documentary and news piece based on real events. We do not condone, accept, or promote the actions or beliefs of those featured in this video. This video was created with the intent of educating the public.
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the way he cried and dragging himself all over the interrogation room and the cops sat there looking at him like "😐"
I felt bad for laughing because the whole time he was doing that I’m like I bet the cops think he’s nuts 😂
fontae: pushing the table and kicking his feet like a toddler
cops: 😑
33:14 i feel bad for laughing when the detective just continues writing on his notepad like "...so anyways" and the number of times the editors had to fastfoward through his tantrum 💀
They had no idea what to do. Lol 😂
I feel bad but literally how I felt working in prek and kindergarten, watching the kids after switching from their favorite activity!
"The following footage has never been seem before"
Fuck yeah
My favorite quote
She dated a black guy i have no sympathy for her
The girl was a mudshark
Look who she was in a relationship with haha zero sympathy
that was the reason for instant sub to EWU years ago xD
If you ever start breaking down like that while being questioned by the police and they just stare at you wordlessly, you’re going to jail
FASHO
Giving the second trial to the same allegedly corrupt judge is insane to me.
A judge made a mistake at my dad's trial, but he's the same one that gets to deny all of his motions trying to raise the issues. The justice system is so broken.
Right?? It's illogical to have the same judge for a retrial period. You wouldn't have an identical jury, right? Absolutely corrupt.
I think the innocence project should look into thisc case. Also looks like the Judge is corrupt
@sharonzilinskas1214 as far as I'm aware, the innocence project only takes cases with exonerating DNA evidence, but things could have changed since I reached out. It's possible, if the knife is still available for testing, that they may be willing to pick up his case.
They know the judge will just rubber stamp Guilty no matter what, it's fucked up these judges won't remove themselves no matter what it's pride they are so corrupt it's sickening they have a story even if they know you are innocent they find you guilty
Why did they give that trial to the SAME JUDGE??? That should be illegal, insane!
The new jury still found him guilty. And the next one will too, if there's another one. He did it. His friends are crying that they didn't investigate anyone but him. Lol, there's no one else . It's him and her. He's the only on able to be looked at. He knows he did it.
@@kenw2225 We found one. One of the people who blindly follows the justice system
It's called a "criminal justice system" for a reason.
@@kenw2225 stop being a bootlicking loser lol.
@@rileyedwards4212 lol because he was guilty...
i know this has literally nothing to do with this case, but i cannot emphasize enough how extremely helpful it is that y’all have subtitles. CC can be difficult and inaccurate on a lot of these kinds of interrogation videos, and i know whoever added captions to this spent hours doing so. just know that us “hard of hearing” folks appreciate this IMMENSELY. great work!!
Amen to that. It's that bit of extra work that sets EWU above a lot of the other channels.
The captions are AI, big man
@@LILREMAlNS Nah. you can see other channels that use AI to generate subs and they are awful. maybe they use AI to generate subs but it is very clear that they have a human at least proofreading them.
*YOU GUYS
i don’t even have hearing issues and CC is still helpful for so many reasons. who cares if they are made with some initial AI assistance, i know for a fact that auto-CC software gets it wrong all the time and the audio on these is often Rough. there is definitely significant human labour that goes into correcting the machine outputs, captioning the bits that software simply can’t handle, etc. and using AI to get some of the baseline work done is just being efficient at this point.
911 operators would get a lot further ahead if they'd tell the caller, "ive routed help your way...while you're waiting i need to ask more questions to possibly assist you, the victim and police/EMS."
Yes!! Imagine if it were someone suicidal & god forbid yelling in distress 😳
THANK YOU! The attitude of that operator had my blood boiling.
Exactly !
1000% I've heard countless 911 recordings where the caller is freaking out because they feel like they have to answer endless asinine questions before being granted help. Hell, i've been in the same situation myself
No. Most operators assume the callers have common sense but unfortunately that's not the case as we can clearly see here.
Prime example of always ask for lawyer and don’t talk to cops!
Prime example of don’t kill your girlfriend and you wouldn’t be put in that position
@@MotherOfDragons420 never talk to cops! They are not your friends or trying to help you!
@@jamestaylor954 he literally murdered his girlfriend lol he doesn’t need friends or help. He deserves to rot away in prison with conjugal visits from big bubba every night lol you sound dumb asf trying to protect this dude.
That corrupt judge should be on trial for jury tampering.
Yes she should! My
Sister Mara is one of
His best friends ! She went to that trial! She stayed at my apartment when he came to Des Moines! The. Dishwasher was dented from her and her boyfriend at the time when they previously lived there! I deep do own in my heart know this man is innocent . Monica ackley is an INSANE PERSON
@@smilethroughlife5537 We need to actually set something in motion about this!
All her cases should be reviewed
The fact that he instantly calmed down after he thought she was still alive- instead of freaking out or becoming worried- says all you need to know.
what do you mean?
@@bolerpear967 if he did it he would be worried if she’s alive and could out him, instead he was calm. When he found out the truth of her passing … 1. That’s must have hurt him even if he wanted nothing to do w her there’s probably still good memories and attachment . 2. She’s not alive to defend him and clarify that she did it as the only witness with him.
@@SN-32 yeah, that really sucks :/
@@bolerpear967because he would have been scared of her being alive if he committed the crime for her to be like he stabbed me instead he was more calm and relaxed when they lied to him and said she was alive and doing good a guilty person would have been nervous and scared
Your comment also tell us everything we need to know about you 😂
The way that cop told him she’s dead was bullshit. He seemed almost gleeful about telling him. That really bothered me.
Part of the reason I love this channel is because of how unbiased it seems. I think this video did an absolutely fantastic job of being as informative as it was with such a complicated case without trying to sway viewers from one viewpoint or another 💕
After watching about 100 of these videos of guilty people, I completely believe this is the behavior of an innocent man. He loses his mind at the 911 operator begging them to come and then he's absolutely ELATED that she is alive, during the first part of the interview you can see what a good mood he's in. He knew that her being alive would clear him. Then when informed she was dead he had the appropriate utter shock, almost disbelief, then it turned to him being emotionally devastated. After he broke down, and quickly switched to rage that he had been purposely, deceitfully, led to believe she was OK. He has the outrage of someone who is being falsely accused. He clearly has a problem controlling his emotions but nobody is this good of an actor.
I just got on here to see if anyone else felt this way. I honestly don’t think he did it.
100% same
Totally agree. He was devastated that she’d died, a guilty person wouldn’t act like that.
@@user-cn3si5um7kthat’s not true. Murderers can feel sad about killing someone. They can do it in a manic episode and only fully quantify the situation
Exactly, specially the first part. He was not anxious about her surviving, not a bit. He *knew* she would have cleared it up.
Guilty or not, that judge probably shouldn't have been the one in charge of the second trial. Like what the hell
Its recusal worthy and bias. they arent supposed to do that. theres actual policies that can cost a judge their positions if they are found to do this.
This is a corrupt ass town, every lawyer judge cop politician is on the same team. Let's talk about how many times Monika got her son no charges because he was busted with weed or coke in high school...
It doesn‘t even make sense. The whole point of a second trial is to get another point of view on a case which is impossible if the same people / judge is involved…
Women ☕
@@Nixonforprez68corrupt judges, such a woman's problem. You're a dummy.
14:20 she doesn’t like confrontation but everyone at the bar said she was starting shit all night
Exactly! Yesss! I was looking for this! I like how they're trying to make her seem like she was such an angel, sweet, didn't like confrontation but yet showing all of her violent ass tweets! Fuck outta here, he's innocent.
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the fact that he was calm knowing she was alive was enough for me. If she had survived, he would’ve been freaking out that she would tell what happened. That’s just bizarre. Praying the Supreme Court watches this.
How the F can the Supreme Court say “yes the first trial was done poorly” and then go and have the SAME judge do the second trial - that makes no sense at all - do they only have one judge, why in gods name wouldn’t a different judge be assigned to the second trial
The reason why it was retried was because the judge ruled that the victim would not be on trial, as the defense wanted to just purely attack her instead of proving him not guilty. She disallowed it, and the appeals court found it to be the wrong decision in this specific case, but that the trial was otherwise fine (and the decision normally sound).
So the second trial occured with him being allowed to impeach her character as much as he wanted. The juror stuff that EWU focused on is something I haven't ever seen brought up anywhere else.
What the juror brought up was the talk of the town. It was absolutely wild when that came out.
@@user-oc8is1ed1g Weird that nobody brought it up with the clearly sympathetic Supreme Court, then. I can buy that there might be enough reasonable doubt to not convict, but I don't really buy that juror's claims, especially if they couldn't even be bothered to help Fontae with a slam-dunk appeal.
@@Neremworld there are a lot of rules within the court system. If I’m remembering correctly, they did try to get the juror as a witness, but it wasn’t allowed.
@@user-oc8is1ed1g Well you'd want to make the accusation in an appeal. Trying to get a juror as a witness in a trial is basically a no-go even if the judge wanted to for some reason.
RIP headphone users, this dude screams at the top of his lungs 90% of the time his mouth is open.
just turn it down a little bit lol.
At least he wasn't holding the knife in this room too
I was calmly cleaning and ... BOOM lol, nearly lost my hearing
Thanks for the heads up
look at him and tell me if you seriously believe you could ask him to do any better?
Too much reasonable doubt in this case, NOT GUILTY
Yeah agreed. Doesn't mean he's *innocent*, we may never know for sure, but legally? Most definitely not guilty.
I wonder if that’s from the shows entire show destroying Sam’s character like a good defense lawyer would do. Know all the facts before saying something so ridiculous
@@jasonsmitty.1057 they didn't "destroy" her character. She was unstable, depressed, and stated that she would k*ll herself. People sometimes do what they said they would do when in the worst circumstances possible. I'm not saying he isn't guilty, but her behavior definitely leads to reasonable doubt. She wouldn't be the first person to st4b themselves.
Any juror on this case should feel horrible about what they have done!! He needs a new trial with a different judge!!!
Not if you’re racist.
There were a lot of red flags in this case but the biggest one for me was that your request for the autopsy report was denied. What do they have to hide?
Especially on a “closed” case. If the investigation was still ongoing it would be understandable, but denied at this point? That’s downright criminal.
@@JoshLathamTutorials I bet that corrupt judge sealed it.
Every state has their own laws about it but an autopsy report is considered to be a confidential health record (HIPPA.) If you’re a close family member you may be able to get a copy. The family has to provide written permission for the hospital to release it to anyone.
Edit: I’m not sure how this is applied if it’s part of a major crime. But it makes sense they’re not going to release it to just anyone.
@@christinaoh7022not true. It’s still all subject to a Freedon of Information Act.
@@Scrapienzaa quick google search shows that autopsies fall under HIPPA protections up to 50 years after the persons death
This judge needs investigated sacked and charged
All his fam think he is innocent... He never committed no crimes in his life. He was a amazing student and football player. Most respectable young man in the family that I ever met. This is crazy. He been in a long time if he is innocent. His mom passed from breast cancer while he was incarcerated last year. Sad as f...either way. Prayers for Fontae. Rip aunty Victoria
YES!!!!
@@MissBillieBadass I bet u been passed around by everyone in your area hahaha
@@bigvsouthphilly2156kinda like your mom?
@@bigvsouthphilly2156 Projecting much? 🏳️🌈
I've dated a woman like this, suicidal over a short term relationship break up. He didn't stab her. She killed herself. This is just sad in every way.
I assess patients like her often in the ER and many have mentioned trying to start fights to have someone attempt to unalive them. Just spoke with 2 people in less than a week who admitted this.
What an unprofessional dispatcher to be arguing with a caller like that. They hire anybody.
says the partaker of the worlds oldest profession
@@Klondike153mbro one has nothing to do with the other. Chill tf out
I saw nothing wrong - Fontae's disposition in the call was incredibly useless to help first responders, and the dispatcher was trying everything to get more information.
@@Klondike153m lol whyd you say this what am i missing? just based off her looks or what?
Important safety tip: If the label on your meds says "don't drink alcohol", then don't drink alcohol.... and don't drive a bulldozer or anything.
When the label says "do not operate heavy machinery under the influence of this drug", I know they mean vehicles, but my mind always goes to forklifts and bulldozers
Exactly, he’s innocent
And if they didn't hear about her mental health, they didn't hear about this aspect...
Drug interactions: Yeah alcohol is a drug, lots of people forget that. Doesn’t mix well with a lot of things.
Don’t drive: Depends on the meds & depends on you. Some meds can make you lightheaded or loopy or whatever & you shouldn’t drive, but that may not happen (not all side effects hit everyone equally), it may happen but only for a week or so until you get used to the drug, or it may be that the entire time you’re on that medication you have the issue. The warning is there to tell you what you need to watch out for.
And yes, you can get a DUI for driving while impaired even if the impairment is due to medications taken as prescribed. Generally they only do that if you cause an accident, though.
Don't drink alcohol and drive the bulldozer? Man you can't have any fun on a jobsite.
My wife has both bi polar and borderline personality disorder too. Its tough. We got into a fight one time and she impulsively stabbed herself with a huge kitchen knife in her thigh, about 6 inches deep. I called an ambulance. She ended up being okay but I couldn't help but to feel like I was a suspect even after my wife said she did it. It was just the way I was questioned by police. So idk, I'm kinda torn on this one. What if my wife hit her femoral artery and died that night? What if I ended up in this mans position? Now I'm not saying he is necessarily innocent or guilty, but damn. I've been through this exact circumstance of what he said happened atleast. Thats really scary
Borderline is scary because they go into these dark moods where they seem like they’ll do anything and everything.
i don't mean to take away from your story but your wife cannot have both bipolar and bpd because borderline is caused by external traumatic factors and bipolar is inherently hereditary (i.e. the chemical imbalance runs in the family and your wife has had a history of bipolar people in her family). you're right to be concerned though; both bpd and bipolar can be scary in severe cases and i'm really glad your wife survived! the impulses are scary and it's often difficult to rationalize when you're put into a high state of mania with bipolar :( wishing you and her the best with coping with her bipolar.
@@nymphiashe could have the genetic basis for bipolar, AND have experienced trauma as a child. Both can definitely co-exist and one mental illness increases risk of developing another
@@nymphiaL comment.
@@nymphiawherever you got your information from that these two diagnoses can not coexist is incorrect
Definitely needs re-opening. How could the jury say this is beyond a reasonable doubt. Very rarely do I comment this but it smells of racism/protecting the idiot detectives
same lol i literally NEVER say this but i dont think this kid killed her
How can we help this man be set free? This is outrageous.
Nothing we can do. It was a miracle he got a second trial. How they allowed the same judge and an all ⚪ jury AGAIN is insane. SMH He will most likely never get out. It's hard as hell to get a conviction overturned.
There’s gotta be something the internet can do. Create an uproar and something like that
Contact the innocence project
@@veronicabanales5255maybe get jayoma on this
Prison letter writing, phone zaps, petitions?
This is the first case on this channel where I don't think he killed her.
I feel the same way. Reasonable doubt is a thing, and there was a lot of that.
same
I agree
@@Mike-wu7ie all of that should’ve been taken into consideration, they completely mishandled his case and just wanted him to be guilty no matter what. Which isn’t justice at all, it’s just the American Justice System.
@@Mike-wu7ie that’s a good point
On what fucking planet is it acceptable that you can be forced to have the same judge upon receiving a retrial?
Its insane, I'm from South Africa and we have a corrupt system like most but this would never happen if there was a second trial. Also, the evidence and studies, as well as expert testimonies pretty much proves his innocence. Her tweets were erratic and dangerous at best. His recollection of the incident with her sister was not something he needed to say at all but it just pointed in the direction of her being mentally unstable. Not to mention the eerily similar situation her ex boyfriend had experienced with her. All of this is just something a seasoned law professional can't ignore, let alone a jury of ordinary citizens. I can rant on for days about how this is messed up on so many levels but its just youtube comments so won't really make a difference.
I'm also disgusted by the fact that people are literally laughing at his reaction to finding out she had passed away. It plays into the same narrative that juror was talking about, everyone wanted him to be guilty, regardless of the evidence and expert testimonies.
Regarding her drug use. I was prescribed a benzodiazepine med to deal with my anxiety. One day, I took literally one more than prescribed and blacked out. It was figured out by parents that I had taken my entire monthly quantity straight after I blacked out. I don't remember a single thing from that day, including getting in my car and driving to a friend, and having a serious accident on the way there. I can easily see how she could get into the position of doing what he claimed she did, considering she was pretty much walking with a drug dealer's supply in her bloodstream.
I hope he is innocent and gets justice one day.
PS: I am off benzodiazepines, and will never touch it again.
Dubuque has always been one of the most corrupt cities my lawyer told me this
Just gotta say for all the sub-humans saying "Look how relived he was when he heard she didn't die, that proves he didn't do it" No it proves he was already worried about going to prison for murder and then he thought it would be knocked down to aggravated assault. There is no way someone stabs themselves in the sternum multiple times in front of you and then you call your homeboy first and then the police and proceed to not give any information to the dispatcher... He keeps saying "You guys don't know what you would do in that situation" but we have records of hundreds of thousands of calls to the police where it's their first time calling 911 and reporting an emergency and they aren't as belligerent as him. 5 year old children would have communicated better hes a sociopath and a narcissist and clearly used to duping rubes like the fools in the comment section claiming he is innocent. That little fake tantrum and the weird segway into a supposed mob run police force and justice system in the city targeting him is such pure bullshit.
It’s not a planet. It’s a plane.
The documentary got that all wrong. The second trial wasn’t even in Dubuque. It was in Clinton iowa
Someone I used to call a friend ended up stabbing her self in the stomach during an argument with her boyfriend. They were drinking the night it happened. Our circle of friends did like to experiment with illicit substances although I do not know if any were involved that night. She survived but he was detained for the night until the next morning when she came to and spoke to the police. She did have a pyscotic break. We haven't spoken in many years but last I heard she was going to therapy, taking meds, and was overall a more stable and well put together person.
All that to say that I think this young man is innocent. And I hope you're doing well, Kat.
It's Iowa, so it's not surprising. You can't tell some people anything. They have to learn the hard way. Look how fast her family throw him under the bus.
That judge needs disbarred. How she manipulated that jury was criminal. I’m not saying he was guilty or not guilty I’m talking about her actions. Him getting a new trial did not absolve the judge of her actions. I’m with that ex-juror, I very little faith in the justice system and crap like that is why.
Gee, sounds like people are saying about every judge in the country. All the time for years. Perhaps we should take our constitutional duty seriously and do it ourselves?
Absolutely stunned how he was able to get the same judge twice. I firmly believe he had something to do with her death and that it was homicide, but he has the constitutional right to a fair trial
@@swingingelephant3415hell no. The public are animals, if we had no government and took law into our own hands, we’d burn this place to the ground within days. And since when are all judges bad?? Haven’t you heard of Judge Cedric Simpson??
@@MKateUltra When did I say anarchy? I believe in liberty, you dope. I don’t care about what random judge is supposedly a nice guy, corruption of all kinds is rooted deeper than the justice system however its those corrupt judges forcing unconstitutional laws on us and politicians enforcing it. I also never said let the public go wild, in the 2nd amendment it states “A well regulated militia (Regulated meaning trained, militia meaning (a) group(s) of the people with the common interest of freedom and security of common rights, not imposed by any state or government body) being necessary of the security of a free state (also meaning free from governmental corruption, enforcement of law and security when the law i.e judges and police no longer enforce laws to keep people safe such as rampant drug use, repeat violence, and other offenses and judges letting those offenders back out over and over again until they kill someone.) The right to keep and bear arms will not be infringed, including infringing on the right to customize your arms the way you see fit or what certain weapons you can or can not have. Not saying hand guns out like candy, I agree with background checks but it is our right as americans to amend, dismantle, replace etc our government when our government is no longer fit. People like you, scared and weak minded are too afraid to do anything and would rather be complicit because “thats the law” or “thats the way it goes” and people who talk about guns are “nutjobs”. Get a grip, preferably on your own AR and fight for not only yours but the country’s rights. Btw people and government are not necessarily two seperate entities. The governement is an organization made up of the same exact people you would find in cities everywhere across america. Except higher class and all pedophiles drinking babies blood .
@swingingelephant3415 I've watched dozens of criminal court cases, and every judge was fine. Most of those cases, however, were tried in Wisconsin, so I can't speak about most other states.
having prozac, xanax, weed, cocaine, and a blood alcohol level of .22 in your system all at once is just srsly crazy. what a line up
Hearing it i was like daaaaamn gal😮😢
@@muliwayne629couldnt the cocaine have been from weeks prior? I genuinely am curious but alot of addicts use multiple drugs and it can be fatal in many ways
its a usual saturday night in your 20s if youre not sad
She clearly did not care about her own life or the lives of others around her, mixing all that in her system. I believe he's innocent, and she was a drunk pill popping psycho. You have to be crazy to think it's okay to mix all that.
Geezzz... The last 3 counteracted the first 2, she had no chance to survive that combination.
If Fontae was guilty of stabbing Sam, he would have shown great signs of distress when originally told Sam was alive . The fact that he was relieved to hear she was alive SCREAMS his innocence and his care for Sam. What the hell is wrong with those juror's? An innocent man sits in prison ...... sickens me to the core.
No….common sense anymore. The woman had issues and mentally disturbed. You have to ask the race question. The girl was white so they assume the black man killed her. RIP Sam. Fontae was railroaded. Always ask for a lawyer. .
Not necessarily. He could have known that she was dead before calling 911. In this situation, he is just acting out thinking she is alive for the cops, knowing the cops are lying to get him to talk about what happened. The original 911 phonecall sells me way more on that he did it. He didn't want to talk too much to the cops, and was way too distressed about someone "he didn't want anything to do with anymore". He was also way too easily believing the cops when they told him she was gonna be fine. There's really no way for them to know that, since she was dead when they arrived and had no pulse at all.
Oh lord…..dude knew she was gone. He was acting. 😂😂
Nah no shot lol he knew she was long gone.
@@KlabauterManiacbrother , trust me , there is no way he knew the cops were lying . People just don’t know that kind of stuff ,
This system is fked, she mixed upers and downers and had suicidal thoughts and he still somehow got arrested ?
Guilty until proven innocent. Instead of innocent until proven guilty.
The EWU crew's ability to find so much footage is impressive. EWU deserves respect for how thoroughly their videos give insight into the background and psyche of the victims/suspects. Incredible channel. EWU, your hard work and diligence have made you THE BEST True Crime channel on RUclips.
I mean it's available to anyone under the Freedom of Information Act
@@YungFrenchToastya lot of things are available if ya got money to obtain it
It's fucking bullshit.
My favorite is in mentioning psychology and the like they don’t say anything is for sure meaning anything. They mention multiple possibilities.
Foi is free..... @@nicholasnieves6578
Whether he did it or not, the way things were handled by the court was absolutely disgusting. I cant believe they had the same judge take the case. The situation with the jurors that Andrew talked about sounded like 12 Angry Men, but with a bad ending.
It was absolutely disgusting, and along with the likely-corrupt police department of that area, it just spells a recipe for disaster. If they were so confident in their convictions, they shouldn't be keeping autopsy records from the public, and they shouldn't ensure that the jury is racially motivated to find him guilty.
12 Angry Men from 1957 was SO good! I had to look up the year and noticed there was another made in 1997. Maybe I'll have to check that one out too.
grow a backbone princess ,, geez
That’s American justice at its core, he had no money as athlete to defend himself.
100% agree with this. Xanax can make you do WILD things to yourself and is so dangerous when abused. As for the trial it's disgusting what can happen to jurors when they are bullied into making a decision. I hope Fontae gets another appeal properly heard. I have extensive knowledge of the justice system in the UK and it's similar to the US with regards to a jury. There was a show in the UK a couple of months ago detailing how easy it is for different juries to reach a different outcome with the same case and hearing exactly the same evidence, it was also detailing a murder trial. It showed how the jurors tried to manipulate the others into changing their minds. You should search for it on RUclips it's fascinating.
I can't believe he got convicted. Why aren't there any petitions??
He has several grounds for appeal. Hopefully he takes heed.
How's even the incoming audio recorded before dispatch even picked up the call???
Whoa. I didn’t even catch that. How?
I put every call on mute if i gotta wait for pick up 👌👆
Must be something when dialing emergency services - automatically record as soon as the number is dialed and it begins ringing since every call is recorded no matter what.
I’ve noticed it a lot over the last decade with the use of cell phones when it comes to listening to these that calls will record immediately when it starts ringing on their end.
prolly pulled off his phone or like above me maybe it starts recording soon as as it ring on their end
Im glad this juror stood his ground & spoke up about the hostile environment.
Indeed! Yes!
Do you think it is time Society had the conversation about just how effective jury trials are? If there should be an independent monitor in the deliberation room?
Personally, it would be important to me that I could say anything in that room without fear of repercussion or revenge.... but this type of deliberation happened this century, which blows my mind.... how do you convince people of what "Reasonable Doubt" even is when Reason has been lost in civil discourse?
Name of the judge???
Honestly. On the off chance he did it, he should never have been convicted. There's no fucking evidence.
It did no good if he did not write letter to judge he might of still been on jury and it would of been a miss trial and why in the hell that they had 200 people to pick from and all of them was white so no chance there could be a black person on jury so there was no persons of per on jury so corrupt I hope he can appeal don't give uo
My worst fear is being accused of a crime that I didn't commit, and being locked away for it 😩
I have been falsely accused of things before when cameras werent so common, I always plea no contest and pay whatever the fees are because it is cheaper than fighting the state and trying to prove I did not do it. If facing jail time I'd have to weigh the odds and see whether I'll get more time or not but I'll probably just yield and not fight the state. It's not worth it. 😕 freedom.
@@JeffOnhill Damn, sorry to hear that 😩😭
Literally the scariest thing
And it happens
Mine 2
Shouldn't the medical people be able to tell if it was self-inflicted? Honestly, this seems like it should be figured out no problem.
How would the medical people be able to tell if she stabbed herself? Their job is emergency medicine, not police forensic work.
@@american_cosmicthey could be referencing not the EMT but rather forensic medical staff.
This is why you ALWAYS request a Lawyer before you say ANYTHING!
“ I need a lawyer “ that’s the moral of this story
In this case 100% agreeed. But a lawyer can slow down an investigate where the accused might want a speedy investigation - such as a missing persons case.
It is a hard one, imaging being the husband of a missing wife, knowing that the police are trying to find evidence against you, while you want them to find your missing wife. (or child etc)
This needs a Netflix documentary and this man needs to be free. If I was on that jury, there was enough to see between her blood tests, her tweets, her character witnesses, and the expert witnesses to find acquitt.
@@Ericsaidful To be fair you havnt heard the prosecutions case. It is obvious that this video errs on the side of innocent. He may very well be, but the fact is, hes had (at least) 1 set of jurors believe he was guilty. So the prosecution must have a decent case. You have been 'tainted' by this material and would never qualify as a juror on this case. Impossible to have an impartial opinion.
Just gotta say for all the sub-humans saying "Look how relived he was when he heard she didn't die, that proves he didn't do it" No it proves he was already worried about going to prison for murder and then he thought it would be knocked down to aggravated assault. There is no way someone stabs themselves in the sternum multiple times in front of you and then you call your homeboy first and then the police and proceed to not give any information to the dispatcher... He keeps saying "You guys don't know what you would do in that situation" but we have records of hundreds of thousands of calls to the police where it's their first time calling 911 and reporting an emergency and they aren't as belligerent as him. 5 year old children would have communicated better hes a sociopath and a narcissist and clearly used to duping rubes like the fools in the comment section claiming he is innocent. That little fake tantrum and the weird segway into a supposed mob run police force and justice system in the city targeting him is such pure bullshit.
@@debodatta7398 the 911 operator kept asking him stupid questions without even reassuring him that there was help on the way. I'd be frustrated and petulant too ffs. The first thing that operator should have stated was that they had lodged the address and services were on route to the address as fast as possible!
But the woman that stabbed herself in the Back of her neck,head, several times ,,, while making fruit for breakfast, was ruled as suicide?!? But not this?! Sure sure
What woman? Do you know her name by chance?
@@Tre.1 Ellen Greenberg x
Oh my God exactly!!!!!! 💯
He's African American, and he doesn't have a chance.
They reopened that one too recently and ruled it undetermined
His absolute relief that she was alive was enough Reasonable Doubt for me. Had he done anything to her, he would have been nervous or fearful, not relaxed and relieved. I certainly hope this young man gets exonerated for this. I just don't see any evidence that he is guilty. I've heard 911 calls and interviews in the past where the caller and interviewee was acting so suspicious only to find out that someone else had actually committed the crime. They convicted this man because she was a pretty white girl and he was a blackish boy. This disgusts me. God please protect this young man and bring the truth to the surface, so that he may not be punished for a crime he did not commit.
This whole case has the innocence project written all over it. I started the episode and immediately thought "og another argument leads to a guy stabbing his girlfriend to death" and by the end of it, question everything that happened. Dude does not seem like a killer whatsoever.
What is the point of a jury when a judge can just conveniently remove the jurors that prevent an unanimous decision? Things like that should be investigated on its own. Everything about this seems corrupt and incredibly biased, and I'm far from convinced that he did it.
What's the point in a jury if one juror feels "disrespected" and decides he won't convict to get even with the others? Listen to Andrews words, he took things personally and he showed his bias. There's always three sides to the story and we only heard from Andrew who would of course paint himself in the best light and make everyone else look bad.
@@bdawgy101And the other juror who was bullied into changing her not guilty verdict?
Yes, the case does sound rather suspect, but being able to get rid of problematic jurors is still a good thing. There have been dozens of cases of jurors needing to be removed for any number of truly disturbing reasons: jurors have sexually assaulted other jurors, had heart attacks, friends have gotten lucky and gotten jurors on their friends' cases, we've even found mafia plants in juries before. Imagine what some of the seedier people you've met or seen online would do if they had total immunity to getting kicked off a jury.
a unanimous
I think a compelling piece of evidence is how little blood was on his clothes. 🤷🏻♀️
As someone who’s struggled with mental health, Xanax coke and alcohol addiction, I can 100% see someone going this far out of control and hurting themself. The fact she’s done the same thing before and had to be forcefully stopped says A LOT.
Same
Did you get hyperthermia too? That stuff is insane. I used to sit next to the ac and sweat buckets. I'd take cold showers without flinching. Thank God for NA
Heck, I've "only" suffered with major depression and anxiety and been on benzos (as prescribed) for a while, then had two double screwdrivers (so four shots of vodka, total) and felt absolutely wasted, and was glad I don't have alcoholism, despite it running in my family, because I can easily see how and why benzos are both incredibly helpful for managing anxiety and panic attacks, but also easily abused and addictive, tolerance and so ineffectiveness rises fast, increasing the risk of addiction even further.
Just from that one night where I combined a pretty minor amount of alcohol with 15mg of a benzo, I could easily see how out of control by behaviour could have become, if it wasn't aware how loopy I felt, and asked to head home to bed! Especially when self-medicating legit mental health issues is so common for a reason. Numbing the pain, fear and trauma is what everyone wants to do in some way. Her particular diagnoses also predispose her to the wild swings in mood and behaviour, then she's mixing large amounts of uppers, downers, powerful prescription meds, street drugs that could be mixed with anything, and alcohol. Her own public social media posts confirm she is also possessive, jealous, controlling and not afraid to threaten violence, backed up with the deposition from the ex, that even her sister confirms she'd attacked her "once", and the video clip where she was the one to attack him first. That's a lot of evidence that weighs heavily in his favour, and it was all excluded from court!
There are so many flaws with the investigation, the court proceedings, the misconduct by people in power such as the judge interfering with jury decisions to force a conviction... plenty of reasonable doubt, not nearly enough compelling evidence proving beyond a reasonable doubt that he murdered her. Which means he should have been given a FAIR trial - impossible with the same judge, and same all white jury judging a black man being portrayed as a violent criminal who "took the life of a lovely, pretty young white girl"... I'm sure part of his hysteria must have been terror, knowing how so many will immediately make a snap judgement and assume his guilt.
Not to mention surpressing the evidence of her mental health and substance abuse history too. Based on the evidence seen here, I'd have to vote not guilty too. Dread to think how many more years he will lose of his freedom and life. Hopefully the innocence project will get involved.
100% agree with this. Xanax can make you do WILD things to yourself and is so dangerous when abused. As for the trial it's disgusting what can happen to jurors when they are bullied into making a decision. I hope Fontae gets another appeal properly heard. I have extensive knowledge of the justice system in the UK and it's similar to the US with regards to a jury. There was a show in the UK a couple of months ago detailing how easy it is for different juries to reach a different outcome with the same case and hearing exactly the same evidence, it was also detailing a murder trial. It showed how the jurors tried to manipulate the others into changing their minds. You should search for it on RUclips it's fascinating.
I was thinking the same thing
A licensed polygraph examiner? What, from Snakeoil University? Are they a qualified astrologer too? Have they tried dartboard analysis where you put a bunch of answers on the wall, blindfold yourself and throw darts at them? I have heard its an emerging field in an equally reliable area.
Edit: To be clear here, I do not have a problem with any of the other experts and I love that EWU gets all these experts. Just not so hot on polygraphs.
I’m 3/4 through this video and it’s brought back unpleasant memories of 20yrs ago. My then girlfriend stabbed herself albeit with a very sharp piece of wood from I picture frame she smashed. She then wrapped the phone cable around her neck and pulled with all her might. Thanks be to God her injuries were not life threatening. However she actually called the police and said I did it!! The case was thrown out. I’ve been very cautious of women ever since 🙏🏾
As a woman, I'm sorry you got to experience that, and feel so sorry for this guy. This reminds me of the movie 'Gone girl', and the main character who is using similar tricks to make herself look innocent. So toxic, manipulative and horrible.
Even if he did do it, there is SO MUCH reasonable doubt to return a not guilty plea. The corruption in the trial is another issue in itself. The judge should not have done the trial a second time.
He'll be found guilty every time. He did it, it's the 2nd jury pool to agree. The defense had a whole extra shot to win , and still didn't.
@@kenw2225your mom won dez nuts! 🔩 Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! 🤭😱🫣
@@kenw2225 He would not have been found guilty the first time if the judge hadn't removed the juror who was voting not guilty for completely biased reasons. You may think he is guilty but everyone deserves a fair trial and you can't remove a juror who disagrees if he is actually performing his duty. You should try actually watching the video and google what reasonable doubt is. There was more than enough in this case.
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Bruh I’ve KNOWN HIM for two decades, he’s been to our home on multiple occasions! He is friends with one of our sons and I would have never guessed this in a bajillion years. I also know people who knew Sam and they’ve said she was a little ‘off’ especially when it pertained to Fontae.
I dunno what happened but I’m still not 100 percent he did this.
He should have had a lawyer. There’s no way he should has been interviewed while drunk and in shock.
True. Honestly the interview helps play into his state of mind and should have helped him get off but the judge screwed him.
He's not under arrest. They want to know what happened. Stop being ridiculous
@@Youre-WelcomeCops are never your friend, and you should never speak to them without a lawyer, let alone when you're intoxicated.
@@Youre-Welcome They lied to him about Sam's condition, and they lied to him that he wasn't being detained. He absolutely needed a lawyer.
"oh noooo consequences of his actions ohhh noooo"
I'm always suspicious of highly animated people when involved in an "Alleged" crime.
I think the problem is, they both were out, he was drinking too, alcohol heightens your emotions. He also seems like an overly emotional and scattered brained guy, especially considering the circumstances - and unfortunately for him it can look suspicious to some people. As someone with ADHD, who gets overly emotional about trivial things sometimes, I can understand the amount of emotions, overload of thoughts that can go through one's mind. People who never experienced that, might not understand that level of animation. It's a really tricky case - we don't know for sure what happened. But I wish the guy asked for a lawyer, and the trial was fair.
I'm sorry but 911 operators can be some of the most ignorant people on the planet.
They should say right away that help is on the way.
Toxic relationships never work out.
No..... You think? What in the world would ever make you come up with that conclusion? 😅
A real detective right there.
Silver lining...
Don't date crazy people, y'all.
Eating dirt never tastes good.
Those text messages were super reasonable tbh. They acted like he hid something but it was literally him saying "Youre tripping over my exes just calm down and come back nobody knows where you are you need to stop doing this"
So you think he’s innocent or guilty?
also they were like “he sent 8 messages in 2 hours” like i would too if my drunk partner started an argument then ran off
@@SierraHutchens what’s your opinion, innocent or guilty?
Nah, the texts were very manipulative and weird
@@andrewdowell2663 Go back and read your messages to your exes when you are mad... We all sound suspicious when we're MAD. lol
EWU your BY FAR the best interrogation and investigation review channel. Evidence of televisions demise. Please continue looking into this case.
Like ten years ago, I was at my friend's apartment, we we having a small party. Well my friends girls has similar trust issues. They were drunk and got into a heated argument. Eventually it ended with my friend leaving, and me trying to calm down his girl. She's saying how she doesn't want to live without him and I'm saying they both need to cool off and just talk tomarow. Well out of nowhere, she super casually grabs a knife, and just started cutting into her arm like she's cutting a steak. No reaction in her face either. It took me a second to react and grab the knife. So clearly this story has a lot more intricacies, but there are crazy people out there that will do crazy things.
My god, this video was trully a rollercoaster of emotions, doubts and questions
It's hard to believe he's guilty, but througout the entire video I questioned myself "is he really innocent?"
What a masterpiece of case and video. You did a great job
I believe him. He seems genuine. Her text messages were crazy. I don't think he did it.
I agree. He seems like a POS to me and I wouldn’t necessarily call him a victim. But maybe not a murderer either.
@@unofoxy_roxyhe is innocent.
@@JB-is4gtthat's basically what they already said?
i have hard time believing hi's guilty, but i have a bias dating a borderline :)
the most shocking part about this whole story, is the fact a man stabbed himself in the heart, then proceeded to eat dinner with his aunt BEFORE DYIING?!
Last supper
Wait what?!?!??? I just got to him wanting to leave
How are you talking about a different upload? 🤔I didn't hear them mentioned an auntie in this case!🧐🤣💦🌱
@@ralsharp6013 it's near the end, talking about similar cases
@@Vomitsack89 thanks. I left my phone on the table whilst I went to the bathroom. Must have been a quick comparison that I missed🤣
“Fontae responds with an eerie flippancy.” Great sentence.
“Flippancy” Great word.
EWU! I love your investigations, analyses, and insights! You stand apart from other creators! Always well done and I can’t get enough!! Thank you to all who have a part of these videos!! ❤️❤️❤️
it's even scarier that this judge is still a judge. This isn't the first case that She's been incompetent in
Please return back to third grade to learn proper grammar. Your third grade teacher failed you sweetie.
She.. thats why.
@@raeray8245lol, you’re lucky you didn’t get censored
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Judges rarely lose their jobs even if they really mess up. There's a whole bunch of videos on RUclips about it. Different judges like that
I will never understand the thought process behind asking an interrogator about whether you need a lawyer. You really think they're going to outright say "Hey, buddy. This is pretty bad, and we think you did it. You should get a lawyer to make it a little more difficult for us to put pieces together." The same people who are legally allowed to give you false information to get you to speak...
They get a court appointed Atty anyway
Unfortunately there are plenty of naive people out there that still believe police are there to help you. Combine that with an extremely distressed emotional state and all of a sudden you don't think clearly.
@tannerb1527 This guy doesn't deserve any help...tf are even talking about?? You want to help the murderer??? Seek mental help for yourself...
@@GhostBooberrylots of it
They don’t understand that the detectives can lie to them and pretty much say anything. If I didn’t watch true crime content I would have never known they could lie to these suspects. I would have never known that if I’m completely innocent, I need an attorney more than ever. It’s easy for us to say that these people should “lawyer up” but I think a majority of people just don’t realize what can actually happen.
never date a bipolar woman. even if you love her let her go before something like this happens to you.
Innocent or not, the way this guy handled himself was absurd
I’ve never seen a guilty person react that hysterically at a loss of someone. Samantha had alcohol, cocaine, marijuana, benzodiazepines, Prozac, and other medications in her system. She had a significant history of mental illness, toxic relationships, threats of self harm, and was not in a stable state of mind at the time of her death. I wholeheartedly believe he is innocent.
If he is guilty he deserves an Oscar for that performance. I have never seen anything like it
He was faking it.
@@_lithp you would be like those pos jurors, stay away from anything involving the justice system
His behavior in the interview didn't really reflect what I usually see in guilty people either. He was super relaxed, open, relieved when he heard she was ok. Usually when hearing a victim is going to make it, guilty suspects I've seen usually fake relief but close themselves off - but he started saying he never wants to see her again and remains open.
I'd say the only type of person who could pull this off would be a psychopath or a sociopath, but there would be signs of that in his everyday life... Im only halfway thru this video typing this so maybe there are... but if he's lying, then he missed his call as an actor.
@@_lithpcan you defend that argument?
I hope my true crime buddies watching this have a happy day ahead!
likewise 🤝
You too!!!!🎉❤
thank you, u too!❤
Awe thanks ❤
Thank you, friend 🧡 likewise
the way he reacts to a lot of things here reminds me of my ex when he would drink. a tortured and misunderstood soul even by himself. we would get in screaming matches almost weekly, but when we broke up we were sober and it was completely amicable - we agreed we weren’t good for each other and should break up. we said one last I love you, sobbed in each others arms, separated our belongings and arranged individual living situations. since then he’s gone to therapy, addressed his addictions, and works to better himself daily. I’m still close with his family and I see him every now and then, there is no bad blood. but seeing (and especially hearing) this gave me flashbacks; I can’t continue to watch this video. I feel so deeply for fontae. the justice system and society as a whole is so flawed.
This case needs a petition, he needs a new trial with a different judge and a diverse jury!
Dang. They got every qualified person on the west coast to review the footage 😂 you guys are great. Keep it up!
I mean I would've called everyone in too like "come look at this shit" 😩 (the boyfriend) smh
How was he not given a different judge. That right there is enough to overturn
You only get a different judge if it can be proven that the judge's mistake was made out of malice. Note, EWU completely skips over exactly what got a retrial: Namely, her decision that the defense can't attack the victim's character. IT wasn't seen as a malicious mistake.
It was enough to get a retrial. He was convicted again, and appealed once more, and it was denied.
It's notable that the appeal was over his desire to suppress statements he made to the police that were instrumental in his second conviction.
That investigator was acting like some kind of lizard person. "Oi mate yer girlfriend's dead"... "Why're freaking out???"
The fact that they gave the case back to the same judge who messed up the first time makes no sense , that’s literally like a 0 IQ move , it’s insane to think we have airheads in positions of power to change peoples lives 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Prior to this video I already knew EWU published some of the highest quality, award worthy documentaries on YT but man I'm still shocked at how well done this doc was. The expert analysis, accurate subtitles, interviews with families, and sheer amount of research put into this doc set its apart from the majority of true crime content. Good on EWU for injecting so much soul into this doc and honoring the victim even when the details are not always flattering. Its sucks that the only awards for YT content is stuff like the Streamys, but you should know that this documentary you guys have published will be remembered as one of the most poignant examinations of the how significantly the justice system can affect the way a tragedy is perceived by those most affected by it.
TLDR; This doc is one of the best documentaries/videos available on RUclips.
Very well said. It's definitely my favourite of all the channels. I get most excited when I see there is a new video posted. So well put together. And a narrator that doesn't irritate in fairness. Great voice !!
👏🏾 well said! I've been thinking of how to word those same sentiments throughout this video
Definitely my FAVORITE channel.
He dragged sam the entire video, knowing her mental health the entire time. What are you talking about? The new age dr Phil this creator is using you and abusing the stories of people for profit in the name of education. Y'all live on planet lala I swear.
Facts. Well stated. Gave angles beyond the evidence defendant and victim. This was very thorough.
I started this video so suspicious of him but that judge is criminally negligent and should be held accountable!
But she won't. Basically, in America, judges and cops are gods (a being that exists with no relation to society). There's some hokey bullcrap that makes it so cops can break all the laws while arresting someone, even wrongly, and they can't get in trouble for the bull they pulled.
Thank you for the subtitles! Now, I can’t believe the same judge was allowed the 2nd time! Seriously something wrong how this was handled from the beginning! Poor guy
Thank you Andrew, the Holdout Juror for being a stand up man.
EWU great case and coverage 💋
Her tweets are wild. I can believe she stabbed herself. Also being on meds and drinking is never a good mix. Never.
i knew people with bipolar, on meds and were alcoholic. the worst combination you could think of... i do believe she stabbed herself. the case, clearly, has not been investigated properly. clear ven before EWU mentioned it. there was a scandal in the jury, the judge. it´s throughout a bs case. the police withheld documents from EWU, which is not looking very honest from the investigators.
if they were so sure and had all evidence without a doubt, why would they withhold crucial information to the case?
maybe it would show what a kindergarten of investigators they were.
She constantly showing violence was it for me. I believe Dante is innocent.
@@mountainmama8932*Fontae and I believe he’s innocent too.
I was looking for a comment like this to make sure I wasn't the only one thinking this way.
This girl had some issues, probably why he preferred to roll solo as he probably couldn't take her any where.
He's lucky she didn't kill him, he should have stayed away from her from her first episode after they got together.
@@mountainmama8932
Her sister saying she loved animals & other good things, but she ended it with "She was something" did it for me.
She's on all those psych meds? Sounds like a borderline or some other cluster b & reminds of Amber Heard & Johnny Depp.
They have a way of framing others or at least trying to.
EWU crew - you really separate yourselves from the pack by having professionals provide expert input into these videos, and by getting exclusive interviews. Really professional content all the way around.
And that the reason, EWU was the first youtube channel I ever bought merch from.
The commentary sometimes is pretty useless and repetitive. Like just shut up and tell us the facts,we don't want that cheap psychological behaviour crap... I find myself skipping the commentary most of the time to watch the actual case. That useless commentary also make their vids extra long. This channel is part of the top but several flaws
@@slayshinimpact7108 i absolutely love it man. We are not the same.
@@slayshinimpact7108 just out of curiosity you the kind of person the fast forwards show and movies?
@@AadZwaan no because movies and TV shows dont have unnecessary commentary every 5 minutes
I am NOT convinced of guilt.
12:45 can we just talk about how rude it is from that detective to just stand there like that? or maybe he isn't even a detective just a random copper
my boyfriend stabbed himself while we were fighting after a night of drinking so it’s entirely possible to me that she would have done that to herself. there’s just so much reasonable doubt for me that I can’t conclusively say he committed this crime.
I get what you or saying he did make tweets that led up to her death made it more sus
Did he though 🤨
@@mercedesisblack wow such a smart question
My boyfriend did too. I broke up with him and he stabbed his stomach to the point he needed intestinal surgery. Alcohol and drugs were involved and he had mental issues in the past. It was so traumatic for me 😭
@@dystanysam9896 weren't all the tweets shown in this video Sam's tweets?
Thank you Juror Andrew for being the holdout juror and not giving into the other jurors, you're the exact person we need in every single jury!
Judge Monica Ackley is exactly what is wrong with our justice system, and the fact she was able to preside over the 2nd trial is insanity!
This is an obvious miscarriage of justice, Fontae deserves a fair trial!
Exactly! How come she was allowed to reside over the appeal. Even if that is normally done, still after what took place with the jurors in the first trial they should have definitely played it safe and assigned a different judge the second time. I can't be sure of how I feel about his guilt or lack thereof just by the evidence that was presented, but I am sure of one thing, he didn't get a chance for a fair trial.
I cannot wrap my mind around that! How could she get to preside over the second trial??
I can see why Andrew came off poorly to the other jurors if he’s immediately accusing the jury of racial bias simply because they are White. That would rub me the wrong way too. People like Andrew who see racism in others simply for being White are the actual racists. It always surprises me how people don’t see that, but it is literally textbook racism to assume bad intentions based on one’s race. There’s nothing wrong with having an all White jury. You need to present actual evidence of racism beyond simply “they are White”
Facts
ehhhh idk bro i mean that dude seems pretty violent (opinion)
PSA: alcohol and benzodiazepines work on the same receptor in the brain, you could think of them as interchangeable. This is why taking both is extremely dangerous and fatal.
Thank you for putting the story out. You probably never will read this but you put in the story is a good thing.
I'll never understand why one of the first things dispatch says isn't "we're on the way, now I need extra information to help"
Could be bullshit but I think it's in the hopes of keeping the person on the phone as long as you can to gain info/help with CPR instructions. If you don't confirm anythings on the way the person might be liable to hang on and keep talking
Because when people hear help is on the way, they may not hear the second part about needing more information and hang up. That happened on the call in this case once he heard confirmation they were coming.
@@MatchaLeafThat’s right.
It should be assumed if you have told them the address.
I'll never understand why people think screaming and yelling is going to help them in an emergency situation. Speaking as calmly and clearly as you possibly can will help save precious seconds when contacting emergency services. Not screaming like an emotional wreck. Save it for after you made the call.
This mf is straight up innocent. The fact they excluded her mental health problems is insane, its literally the strongest piece of evidence
Fr, it's ridiculous. The way he calmed down and was happy she was " ok" is what really made me start to believe he was innocent. Obviously, he had to know they suspected him, but if she was alive, she could be questioned about what happened. No one who stabbed someone and said they did it to themselves would be able to relax upon hearing they were fine😅. Poor dude, he really got fked.
Apparently they were allowed to impeach her character during the retrial
@@lukejohnston5566It's not "impeaching her character" when the primary question at hand is "did the defendent stab her or did she stab herself in the midst of an episode?"
Her mental health has nothing to do with her character, but her state of mind has a great deal to do with providing reasonable doubt about whether she killed herself.
Yeah so she stabbed herself twice and threw the knife while she was dying 10 feet away
@@MrPickledede Crazier things have happened. I had issues with those things too but their possible explanations were reasonable and believable enough that I couldn’t definitively find this man guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Guys do you honestly think if he did it and thought she was "fine" he would lie and say she did it to herself,when obviously she could testify against him if he was guilty?! I don't. I honest think he was in shock and unfortunately people trust and talk to cops in shock. People don't under that literally EVERYTHING you say will be used against you. They will see anything you say in the worst light. Say you want a lawyer. Right away! Most of the time cops get it right. In this case, I dont believe that is correct.
There is no evidence he touched the knife, How could he possibly be guilty beyond a reasonable doubt?
Because he’s male.
because he is black and jurors were white
U can thank modern day femism
@@Rylynn2017 How so? I would think the opposite would be the case (thinking you mean “feminism”). For example, in the past, it would be assumed the man would be bigger and stronger and more “manly” so how could a little lady such as herself dare do anything violent, let alone herself? So, how could feminism be to blame for him being found guilty behind a reasonable doubt?
@@michelleb7399 He is probably talking about how feminism teaches women that whatever anger they feel is justified because they have been 'oppressed' by the 'patriarchy' for millennials, taking any agency out of their hands effectively turning them into toddlers which is pretty misogynistic if you ask me but sadly a lot of women find victimhood a very appealing status
The psychiatrist saying her depression was low the day prior probably means she was having a manic episode
Sometimes people lie, I do as well just so others can hear what they want, and make yourself look good at same time. Then again, could be true and knowing people with bi-polar disorder and that amount of drugs and alcohol can EASILY flip a switch. No one is cured of mental disorders, they can come back if you let them.
Yeah, day before I was discharged from therapy my score was a 5. 3 days later I attempted suicide and tried to admit myself into a psychiatric ward! Shits beyond crazy, I can personally relate to her and I know people like us can flip like a switch unintentionally just cause that's how our brains work, which sucks to be fair.
@@AJSketchesyou’re bipolar, & a danger to society. I’m sorry if this sounds harsh but you need to be in some type of institution where you can be monitored by a psychiatrist & have someone make sure you are actually taking your medication instead of just taking your word for it. We both know you’ve lied about taking your medication in the past… with various excuses & reasons as to why…
OMG! I was thinking the exact sma thing. I have watched way too many of these videos.
@@AJSketches I'm glad you weren't successful. Stay strong.
Thank you Juror Andrew for being open minded enough.
I adore all that y'all do. 😅💕 It's like a new film at the box office when y'all post.
What is really impressive about this channel is the amount of professionals who have viewed this video and giving their inputs to make this such a great video.
I'm sorry but i gotta call bs that a RUclips channel is hiring 8 ppl with advanced degrees, a writer (I know they have a writer because I remember this channel putting out a statement looking for a writer or writers in their community section about 6 months ago), a narrator, and editor--yet none of these 11+ ppl want credit in the page's info or video description? And a rather mid-size channel can afford a staff of at least 11 ppl? Yeah, ok...
Edit: Also, Xanax is a benzodiazepine. Benzodiazepines are a class of drugs, not a specific drug. Any mental health worker on their team would know this. Prozac is not a central nervous system depressant. It's an SSRI. Again, a mental health worker would know this. Just more evidence that creates doubt they truly have these professionals on their team. This is basically mental health knowledge regarding two very common medications.
I have a hard time believing he got 8-9 experts or however many there was. It’s probably 1 or 2 people with multiple credentials. No way he is paying 8-9 experts every video.
@@bunnyluver2176holy fuck I just posted basically the same thing as your first sentence. No fucking way. Maybe 1 expert with multiple credentials. 8-9 experts would be expensive as fuck. Bullshit
I find it strange that investogators expect a person to have clear memory when they were admittedly intoxicated.
.12 is tippsy not blind drunk especially a guy that size
@@johnwhorfin5150 He was a .12 when they tested him. Imagine how drunk he was at the time, given the time it's been since the incident and the fact that his adrenaline was pumping pretty damn hard. Throw in the fact he watched his girlfriend stab herself, it's entirely reasonable to believe he doesn't remember everything correctly.
When I'm in a stressful situation, such as a fight with someone else who is drunk, you could ask me questions later that I'd probably get wrong.
I don't buy that this boy killed the girl.
Period.
@@juliepearce6667she stabbed herself fatally twice??
@@shannongaines5474i mean she did have a mix of drugs in her system. xanax and alcohol mixed make you act incredibly recklessly. all that mixed with bpd, i could see it happening.
51:17 if you listen closely he says "Like, I had no idea she even seen that coming" then he changed what he said. 🤨
I have no idea whether this guy is innocent or not. But clearly there is reasonable doubt and he never got a fair trial.
No way they put the second case back with the same judge and another all white jury after he directly protested that the first time. Get that woman out of our court system.
None of them should be there
Yeah, why wouldn't the court intentionally discriminate based on the request of a defendant?
Sub Saharan IQ from you
@@VelvetColt No they will continue to keep the CORRUPT so they can keep raking in those $$$. Big money in Wrongful convictions IJS
This is a corrupt ass town, every lawyer judge cop politician is on the same team. Let's talk about how many times Monika got her son no charges because he was busted with weed or coke in high school..
For real