When Doctor Strange showed up I was wondering why Tiffany wasn’t on the couch and then the rest of the story happened and I think she was the lucky one of the group
@@takeruneverborn4740 not really... that's actually a very small part of their culture... IIRC vast majority of them were explorers, merchants and farmers... it's just that the english had the most contact with the maradeurs so that image got stuck(by that point they were mostly converted to christianity)
These Viking are able to be one of patron Gods to near death and drown him they definitely earn Omega beyond Omega classification because if they had better technology they could wipe out our planet like that
Normal brain: These Vikings are op for no reason and it’s dumb that they can fight thor just because Ennis thinks they’re cool and wants them to. Galaxy brain: BEYOND OMEGA LEVEL! HOW DO THEY COMPARE TO SENTRY? LET’S ARGUE ABOUT WHO WOULD WIN, CURSED VIKINGS OR SENTRY! WHY ISN’T THE WATCHER HERE? CAN THE VIKINGS FIGHT GALACTUS?
Vikings are like hammers. And as the old adage goes: When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail, something to be nailed, or can be made into a boat.
I always knew this would make for the perfect Back Issues episode. Not too popular, not too obscure, just crazy enough. Been waiting a while for this one
Maybe the viking curse was like Imhotep's curse in The Mummy: intended as a punishment, but also turned him into a walking disease, a plague upon mankind, an unholy flesh eater with the strength of ages, power over the sands, and the glory of invincibility!
That’s what I was thinking Maybe if the story was about people digging up a ship that had the Vikings entombed inside (maybe the ship sank but they were still alive) and accidentally released them Then that would clear up a lot of the plot holes there because Ennis clearly doesn’t care 😂
Which was always a weird curse to place on him in the movie. Did they not realize that it would grant him powers at the time and thus were obligated to overwatch his tomb?
@@tjjordan4207watch the movie again. The medjai were there to kill anyone who got close to the tomb and books that were buried there so the mummy wouldnt be disturbed
@@aliuniversal4100 Still, it's dumb that they would place a curse on him that can give him powers if he was awakened. Just killing him would have been enough.
Harold would genuinely be a kind of fun antagonist for an arc of Guardians of the Galaxy run. Like they leave Earths orbit, and suddenly something slams into the ship. They investigate and find a partially frozen viking, parodying when The Avengers find Cap, and then an even crazier "Jackal's Son" rampages through the ship but gets taken out in some way, shape, or form. The next arc? LIFEFORM
Oh no. Sal actually did it. I remember when they covered the first issue on good bad ugly, he was the only one who liked it now he's forcing Ben and Ethan to sit through the rest! I'm not sure how, it feels like part of something me ridiculously circuitous plan of his! What's next? More full stories showcased from the sister show? If so, I'm all for it!
The focus on women not being allowed to be warriors is weird to me, because shield maidens and Valkyrie are so associated with Vikings. I don’t know how historically accurate the idea of shield maidens is, but this is clearly based more on the Viking stories than historical accuracy.
There's been enough archeological evidence to support the existence of female Viking warriors. Nothing conclusive, but still enough for a decent hypothesis.
I remember this comic, it was pretty disappointing because the villains were just some guys. You'd think immortal vikings would be interesting antagonists
I remember when you guys did part one and I’m glad you’re doing the rest. Roped me in on that first part and I had no idea where to get the rest of the story.
I am loving the little flash-forward at the beginning of the episodes! It’s always a fun game to try and guess how far along in the video it is. This one got me good! 😂
I remember reading this as it came out, when I was twelve, which looking back was both way too young and yet the perfect age for this kind of material.
This was such incredibly wasted potential, it's unbelievable that it isn't a shitpost. At every single point that anything happens, simply taking it the direction that makes sense - considering actual Vikings and logical story progression - it could have been incredible.
Sal’s rant halfway through the episode about his own hypothetical version of this book where Jaekelsson sees Thor and instead is just like “holy shit I’m finally meeting my god in the flesh, I must be the greatest Viking who ever lived” is honestly genius in how it instantly makes that character and this entire storyline a thousand times more compelling
When they mentioned that Garth Ennis wrote this, all I could think was "wait, the guy who wrote crossed? Oh my God, this is going to be bad, ain't?" Twenty minutes in: "Yep, it's pretty bad".
I remember you guys doing the first issue on good bad and ugly and I immediately bought the whole series and devoured it at a galactus like rate. great to see it finally get 'the full treatment'
They’re not fun. I don’t know how to say it but they are amazing stories but I don’t think this show would do them justice ( this isn’t an insult to the show but to say they tend to be just be depressing and not really things you can riff off of) Like Dear Billy, Ennis’s best story, is just about a women who was traumatized by her rape and lets that consumer to the point of wanting all of Japan to be murder
1:06:09 supernatural kind of addressed this situation. They didn’t atomize the monster but they did throw it in a wood chipper. No wait they’ve atomized monsters too.
Ok. There were Norse women warriors, that wasn't a crazy concept in that culture. The "swastika" was a commonly used and important symbol but that wasn't the triskele, which was Celtic. The Nazi's THOUGHT they were the descendants of the Norse, but that's not super accurate, the Anglo Saxon's shared a language and a lot of culture with the Norse but they weren't the same people. I'm sure I'm missing a lot more
The crazy part is that somehow, this book wasn’t the tipping point for the Superhero Registration Act that inevitably led to Civil War. As horrific as the events in this book were, the Avengers, the Pentagon. The White House or even the State Department didn’t even care. Also there are moments in this book that remind me of that sequence in Superman II where General Zod, Ursa and Non reach earth and especially Metropolis, and despite the face that they are literally standing in the heart of a major metropolitan city, they are so strong that they don’t regard any of it. Especially its citizens.
@@joshuaharrison1633Ennis said it’s cannon. It was reference once in 616. The Marvel universe guide books reference it taking place in 616. No one is willing to touch it because it’s way too extreme and kinda would need to be explained how New York ever recovered.
Oh wow I been WAITING for you guys to talk this story. It's really bad and it's enjoyable to show people how bad. To give an idea how funny OP the villain is, he could probably wipe out Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet with one punch... Because a weird hermit guy gave him that power. Weird Hermit guys>The Cosmic power of the universe itself.
This feels like Ennis had a similar idea of Frank Miller's Master Race comic, with a "ship" of kryptonians going ham on metropolis with superman being thor?
The Marvel Max line was so weird. Some of the most influential stories in recent years came from this imprint, and literally everything else was swept under the rug like it never happened.
Hot Tub Time Machine is kind of a stupid time travel story...probably not a dumber time travel story out there, but that is ok, it's a comedy. Garris Ennis: Hold my beer you bloody yanks I will show you a stupid time travel story!
@papagrande7448 that's a shame. But thank you for letting me know that I had noticed a while back they didn't do it anymore and was just curious. I always did like that intro
I don’t know I bizarrely like this book, it feels like a book that has stakes instead of “oh Thor has to beat up another Norse mythology God of the week” this is Thor fighting a savage that originated in his culture. And the reason why I like this instead of cross is because unlike that series there’s hope in this one. like there’s an actual hero that are working together to save the day
When Doctor Strange showed up I was wondering why Tiffany wasn’t on the couch and then the rest of the story happened and I think she was the lucky one of the group
Considering Ennies' obsession with warfare, the fact these aren't historically accurate vikings has to be intentional on his part...
his war comics are some of his best work.
I think Ennis really only cares for the more modern type of warfare like WWI and beyond
@@mttylerdurden9they are mostly Berserkers or Mauraders from Norseland
@@takeruneverborn4740eh thats actually pretty debated
@@takeruneverborn4740 not really... that's actually a very small part of their culture... IIRC vast majority of them were explorers, merchants and farmers... it's just that the english had the most contact with the maradeurs so that image got stuck(by that point they were mostly converted to christianity)
If I remember correctly Rob did cover this story and I may be mistaken but I remember him calling the vikings beyond Omega level.
Never change Rob❤
😂
These Viking are able to be one of patron Gods to near death and drown him they definitely earn Omega beyond Omega classification because if they had better technology they could wipe out our planet like that
Normal brain: These Vikings are op for no reason and it’s dumb that they can fight thor just because Ennis thinks they’re cool and wants them to.
Galaxy brain: BEYOND OMEGA LEVEL! HOW DO THEY COMPARE TO SENTRY? LET’S ARGUE ABOUT WHO WOULD WIN, CURSED VIKINGS OR SENTRY! WHY ISN’T THE WATCHER HERE? CAN THE VIKINGS FIGHT GALACTUS?
Vikings are like hammers. And as the old adage goes: When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail, something to be nailed, or can be made into a boat.
I always knew this would make for the perfect Back Issues episode. Not too popular, not too obscure, just crazy enough. Been waiting a while for this one
Core memory of Sal getting yelled at as a kid for asking for a bag for his paper back.
I saw the cover in the background and had a That's So Raven like flash back, which resulted in me just going "heh"
Thor getting mixed by Zombie Cannibal Vikings is a sentence I thought I never have to say unless we were in Marvel Zombies or the Versus Verse
Maybe the viking curse was like Imhotep's curse in The Mummy: intended as a punishment, but also turned him into a walking disease, a plague upon mankind, an unholy flesh eater with the strength of ages, power over the sands, and the glory of invincibility!
That’s what I was thinking
Maybe if the story was about people digging up a ship that had the Vikings entombed inside (maybe the ship sank but they were still alive) and accidentally released them
Then that would clear up a lot of the plot holes there because Ennis clearly doesn’t care 😂
Which was always a weird curse to place on him in the movie. Did they not realize that it would grant him powers at the time and thus were obligated to overwatch his tomb?
@@tjjordan4207watch the movie again. The medjai were there to kill anyone who got close to the tomb and books that were buried there so the mummy wouldnt be disturbed
@@aliuniversal4100 Still, it's dumb that they would place a curse on him that can give him powers if he was awakened. Just killing him would have been enough.
Harold would genuinely be a kind of fun antagonist for an arc of Guardians of the Galaxy run. Like they leave Earths orbit, and suddenly something slams into the ship. They investigate and find a partially frozen viking, parodying when The Avengers find Cap, and then an even crazier "Jackal's Son" rampages through the ship but gets taken out in some way, shape, or form.
The next arc? LIFEFORM
I sorta want Al Ewing to reference it in his Thor run but it’s too insane
Do it next time Angela is on the team.
Oh no. Sal actually did it. I remember when they covered the first issue on good bad ugly, he was the only one who liked it now he's forcing Ben and Ethan to sit through the rest! I'm not sure how, it feels like part of something me ridiculously circuitous plan of his! What's next? More full stories showcased from the sister show? If so, I'm all for it!
The focus on women not being allowed to be warriors is weird to me, because shield maidens and Valkyrie are so associated with Vikings. I don’t know how historically accurate the idea of shield maidens is, but this is clearly based more on the Viking stories than historical accuracy.
There's been enough archeological evidence to support the existence of female Viking warriors. Nothing conclusive, but still enough for a decent hypothesis.
I remember this comic, it was pretty disappointing because the villains were just some guys. You'd think immortal vikings would be interesting antagonists
You did talk about it with garth ennis, i just re-watch it 😅
Congratulations Sal on the Terminator comic.
I remember when you guys did part one and I’m glad you’re doing the rest. Roped me in on that first part and I had no idea where to get the rest of the story.
Harold Jaekelson 2099 when???
😂They actually used it for the title of the episode. That's awesome.
I am loving the little flash-forward at the beginning of the episodes! It’s always a fun game to try and guess how far along in the video it is.
This one got me good! 😂
I remember reading this as it came out, when I was twelve, which looking back was both way too young and yet the perfect age for this kind of material.
Doing Gotham City Year One and turning around and immediately doing this is crazy
This was such incredibly wasted potential, it's unbelievable that it isn't a shitpost.
At every single point that anything happens, simply taking it the direction that makes sense - considering actual Vikings and logical story progression - it could have been incredible.
nah it’s fun if a bit extreme
That tap and latte rant was perfect !
i had the same reaction as ben, "OOOOH THOSE VIKINGS!"
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Hey I just rewatched the Max GBU yesterday what a coincidence
I'd like you guys to do DC vs vampires mostly because of how weird it is.
Sal’s rant halfway through the episode about his own hypothetical version of this book where Jaekelsson sees Thor and instead is just like “holy shit I’m finally meeting my god in the flesh, I must be the greatest Viking who ever lived” is honestly genius in how it instantly makes that character and this entire storyline a thousand times more compelling
Man back issues freshen my Wednesdays. Wanna meet the comic poppas at a con one day
26:00 okay i don't usually do this but WHERE IS SPIDER-MAN!? Spider-Man would not let this happen in New York City
Spiderman doesn't need that guilt and trauma 😢
Spider-man would surely die, this story is hardly canon 😂
I read this and i was like “wouldnt Peter be able to body most of these guys?”
I want spider-man as far away from ennis as possible lol
@@BtownSpidey you know what... Your absolutely right
As someone who wants to write for Marvel one day i have some characters in my back pocket thanks to back issues, lol
, space Viking comes back as a Harold of Galactus
Love that artwork very under appreciated.
“Rob from comics explained makes a video about it” looooooool
When they mentioned that Garth Ennis wrote this, all I could think was "wait, the guy who wrote crossed? Oh my God, this is going to be bad, ain't?"
Twenty minutes in:
"Yep, it's pretty bad".
We are always coming back these 10 years later, even if this op ends, I’ll be glad to be a part of this journey.
I remember you guys doing the first issue on good bad and ugly and I immediately bought the whole series and devoured it at a galactus like rate. great to see it finally get 'the full treatment'
Leaving this here cause i love a good Sal rant 2:55
I haven’t even watched yet, but Thor on the couch? LETS GOOOO
I doubt you'd guys would ever cover this, but I'd love to see dreaming eagles and Sara from Garth Ennis on the show. they're pretty great war comics.
They’re not fun. I don’t know how to say it but they are amazing stories but I don’t think this show would do them justice ( this isn’t an insult to the show but to say they tend to be just be depressing and not really things you can riff off of)
Like Dear Billy, Ennis’s best story, is just about a women who was traumatized by her rape and lets that consumer to the point of wanting all of Japan to be murder
Jeez ok
Glen Fabry's work on Slaine and preacher is amazing, he's such a great artist
1:06:09 supernatural kind of addressed this situation. They didn’t atomize the monster but they did throw it in a wood chipper.
No wait they’ve atomized monsters too.
1:08:47 This is exactly the line of thinking that had me add this to my pull in 2003.
I’ve never heard of him because his name is Harold… no one can be scared of someone named Harold lol
This might actually be the most insane comic that's been covered on this channel, which is a pretty damn impressive achievement
Been waiting for them to cover this book. Garth Ennis' mean spiritedness jumps out of the page here
Ok. There were Norse women warriors, that wasn't a crazy concept in that culture. The "swastika" was a commonly used and important symbol but that wasn't the triskele, which was Celtic. The Nazi's THOUGHT they were the descendants of the Norse, but that's not super accurate, the Anglo Saxon's shared a language and a lot of culture with the Norse but they weren't the same people. I'm sure I'm missing a lot more
So it was norse and buddhist too? Coincidentally?
@@benhramiak8781 the swastika is a super old symbol that kinda evolved on its own in a bunch of different cultures
I love Ang Lee's Hulk movie man
One of the most Garth Ennis things that Garth Ennis has ever written.
I was wondering why this sounded so familiar
Love Ben's Blue Sun shirt! 😃
This story is INSANE.
ComicPop covering batshit forgotten comics is always a treat!
I always wondered if they'd would do Garth Ennis Thor and today's the day. What a Wednesday am I right lol
Its funny if ever i open a comicpop video, its been on a thursday constantly now without noticing myself
This teaches me quite a bit about buying trade collections.
47:45 tapping is way worse Like every job I've worked that shit has been broken
I want Rob to do a video about the guy and use this as a clip as an intro
The crazy part is that somehow, this book wasn’t the tipping point for the Superhero Registration Act that inevitably led to Civil War. As horrific as the events in this book were, the Avengers, the Pentagon. The White House or even the State Department didn’t even care.
Also there are moments in this book that remind me of that sequence in Superman II where General Zod, Ursa and Non reach earth and especially Metropolis, and despite the face that they are literally standing in the heart of a major metropolitan city, they are so strong that they don’t regard any of it. Especially its citizens.
I don’t think it’s canon 😂😂Garth ennis books barely are and it’s published by max
@@joshuaharrison1633Ennis said it’s cannon. It was reference once in 616. The Marvel universe guide books reference it taking place in 616.
No one is willing to touch it because it’s way too extreme and kinda would need to be explained how New York ever recovered.
Gonna be honest.
I really like Ang Lee's Hulk XD
Or, did, it's probably due for a rewatch.
Oh wow I been WAITING for you guys to talk this story. It's really bad and it's enjoyable to show people how bad. To give an idea how funny OP the villain is, he could probably wipe out Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet with one punch...
Because a weird hermit guy gave him that power. Weird Hermit guys>The Cosmic power of the universe itself.
Who cares about power scaling lmao
At the very beginning I was like, alright, it could have SOMETHING going for it. But no. He ennised all over it. Irredeemable
Another great episode of Back Issues! And might I add Ben's hair is looking extra cute uwu .
If magic worked like this, the Loki would have createf a way better Wrecking Crew
6:46 lol the family guy reference
I didn't know there was a part 2!
They always joke that they will just do anything but they will truly scrape the bottom when we see a Batman: Grotesk episode of Back issues
dammit ben 😂 4:41
This feels like Ennis had a similar idea of Frank Miller's Master Race comic, with a "ship" of kryptonians going ham on metropolis with superman being thor?
Ennis was first
@@paulakroy2635 that's fair
25:08 I WAS THINKING THE EXACT SAME THING
The Marvel Max line was so weird. Some of the most influential stories in recent years came from this imprint, and literally everything else was swept under the rug like it never happened.
This book is a guilty pleasure to me.
Waiting for the crew to cover U.S. War Machine!
I never really understood the hate for Hulk 2003. I thought it was good.
Do a video on the Legion of Monsters
This episode honestly makes me wish they do a crossover between Thor and Asterix and Obelix 😂.
Who hurt Garth Ennis? This, crossed, the boys....wtf man?
I mean he likes writing Dark Stories. He’s a nice dude in real life
England probably
I personally love the Ang Lee Hulk movie, its very personal to me and im appreciating the reappraisal its been getting lately but to each their own.
Oh shit, I asked for this book way back in your first year!
Do a video on rise of the Midnight Sons
Yup that's the Garth Ennis I remember
Hot Tub Time Machine is kind of a stupid time travel story...probably not a dumber time travel story out there, but that is ok, it's a comedy. Garris Ennis: Hold my beer you bloody yanks I will show you a stupid time travel story!
New-found-land was absolutely brilliant! Even the little islands need attention
Awesome.
(I mean the episode, not the comic.)
I just thought of this but, what if Hella shows up instead of Strange and they team up so she can get the souls she has been denied for a 1,000 years.
Ugh… it’s Garth Ennis, but it’s Sal, Ethan, and Ben making fun of Garth Ennis and I need that
Ow anything you say? Animal man?!
What happened to the little piano into you used to have at the beginning of videos?
Been gone for more than a year.
@comicpop I know. But like why though?
@@kylesmit9771I remember Sal said it was gone due to viewer retention.
@papagrande7448 that's a shame. But thank you for letting me know that I had noticed a while back they didn't do it anymore and was just curious. I always did like that intro
@@kylesmit9771 We did too!
I doubt they’re putting this in an epic collection
If you're doing just anything, you should consider Ultimates 2: Grand Theft America. Id love to see Ben and Ethan's reaction to that!!
The ultimates is kinda like GTA. A hyper realistic reaction to American events and culture through the eyes of UK creators
How about squadron surprime max
Sal: We’re doing anything at this point…
Me: -Stares at my copy of Black Hammer-
I’m surprised that this was even made because this was 2003, like not even two years after 911 this comic depicts, hundreds of dead, New Yorkers. Wild
I don’t know I bizarrely like this book, it feels like a book that has stakes instead of “oh Thor has to beat up another Norse mythology God of the week” this is Thor fighting a savage that originated in his culture. And the reason why I like this instead of cross is because unlike that series there’s hope in this one. like there’s an actual hero that are working together to save the day
Is this the first Garth Ennis book you guys have covered?
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Thorfinn would never allow this...
Did Ben get a perm?
I think this comic was Garth trying to do Crossed but in Marvel and he was PGing it
So the curse run on The Mummy's logic?
Ben's curls... 😊💕
I’m not gonna say this is the dumbest comic you’ve talked about on the couch… but it’s definitely in the top 10