Shaq Said What Everyone’s Thinking About Wemby
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- Опубликовано: 2 ноя 2023
- Victor Webmanyama scored 38 points in a mini-sweep of the Suns. It was amazing to see a rookie beat both Kevin Durant and Devin Booker but Shaq made a wild comparison. This is a look at the difference between Bol Bol and Wemby but why Shaq might have been right.
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Poor Bol Bol minding his own business at the end of the bench and still catching strays 😂
This made me laugh too hard
Bol Bol cant catch a break lmao
Bol: “WTF shaq?”
Oh he's fine. He is getting paid for being tall. GMs see him and just cant believe there is no upside to a 7'4 guy.
I feel like any sentence that starts with "Poor Bol Bol" would probably be pretty funny just cause his name is goofy af, but this made me fall over.
Actually, Shaq didn't compare Wembanyama to Bol Bol. He just said that Bol Bol had a similar skill set at the same height. And Shaq also clarified that Wemby was much more consistent than Bol.
The big man just wanted to say that Wemby isn't doing anything unprecedented, he's just doing it at another level.
Thanks for that common sense. People react emotionally and look foolish. It doesn't take a genius to know what Shaq was saying.
but he is doing something unprecedented...?
i heard shaq say that, and even if hes saying wemby is same as bol bol hes wrong
Exactly
He is doing it right
KP did ut before bol bol
LOL. It's hopeless trying to explain this to most of these people. Proof that common sense is not common.
I think the biggest difference is basketball IQ and overall maturity/intelligence. Wemby is so poised in every interview I’ve seen, especially for a 19 y/o.
And for a man who learn english language with books and series
I think his exposure in the euro league is what’s helped him along with being a giant. They say the euro league is harder than the NBA too soo…
I wouldn’t say harder but different style, emphasizes team play a lot more I feel. Overall skill is much stronger in the NBA, just look at players who are ass in the league who put up numbers in big leagues like China and Europe
Overall basketball skill matters a lot. People don't acknowledge this isn't 2K and having high stats isn't enough to be a good player
To be fair, Coach Pop also helps just a tad bit 👌🏻
Watching Wemby last night, I was starting to worry that he would be so unstoppable in the future that it wouldn’t be fun seeing him dominate year after year. He’s that good.
I mean curry and lebron both did it for a season or two
I mean this is exactly what jokic has been doing since 3 years.
Its all fun and games until they start winning against your favorite team. Thats what happened to LeBron, people loved him until he was dominant now he has the most haters ever.
Fr last night I was surprised he balled out like that
@@Infernos94 not a problem when your favorite team is the Grizzlies followed by the Spurs. My favorite team is getting clapped by everyone.
Bol Bol might be the closest you can get to Wemby in terms of comparisons, but Wemby is in a whole different league.
I think we can agree on that.
They _do_ play in the same league....what you mean is he's on another tier.
@@shaft9000 🤓🤓🤓
@@shaft9000 Isn't bol bol in the G-league or about to get waived though?
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The closest comparison point is their height, that’s it
I don’t really agree with this in that “if you look at the tape they have the same game.” Maybe to someone that doesn’t know basketball and they’re seeing the same sized player shooting and dunking. There is such a huge difference in the way they play, you even brought up multiple ways they’re different. Wemby has insane coordination for someone his size allowing him to handle the ball like a guard, even if Bol can handle a little, the lack of coordination he has makes it a skill he can’t use in-game. Bol is also no where near as fluid or explosive with or without the ball. His ability to defend in the paint, even while taking hits is also very much unlike Bol. Even his ability to catch the ball and catch lobs. Not to mention his vision off-ball and the ability to read the offense or defense. I see more comparisons to a young Shaq than to Bol. That flip shot he had reaching around the basket is textbook Shaq. Instead of the strength and width, he has length and size. I think in his prime there won’t be anyone able to stop him next to the basket. He’s going to be a problem.
You will see a lot of these videos on this channel. He hates european players (or non-american). Scoot said that he is the best, it's confidence. Wemby said it, it's arrogance. The last video was ridiculous, too. He said Wemby can't be an all-star because players with similar hype didn't make it, like Lamelo Ball. Wemby will be most likely make the all-star team this year. To compare his hype to Lamelos is just dumb. Spurs games are watched right now as if it were the NBA finals. This kid is breaking records in views.
Watch out for A.M. to talk about non-americans and you will realize it..
Look at Wemby's anticipation, agility, foot speed, passing accuracy, court vision, and footwork. I was not a believer until really watching him the past few games. His skills and basketball IQ are impressive at his age, at any height. In fact I'm more impressed by that than his height and length.
What impressed us in France last season is exactly what is impressing you right now in the US: smart and down-to-earth kid, great IQ, quick learner, getting better every game.
Sky's the limit for the kid
I'd like to see what he could do at small forward. He's already shown he can cover distance to block, steal, and rebound; plus drive and shoot outside. Would help him not to get muscled out and avoid inside injuries until he fills out.
@@jdunnatlhis body just needs to fill out. In 2-3 years his frame will fill out
@@jdunnatl yes, I really worried that his first move in the NBA would be a season ending injury, like so many physically spectacular rookies before him. And your comment about small forward prompts me to think about this still-emerging concept of positionless basketball and how Wemby really puts it to the test. It's a good time for him to come into the league. I wonder how Wilt Chamberlain would have been played in the current game.
@@Romanus- That might be a better time to transition inside. I think Wemby would be unstoppable at SF. Who could block him? If big men try to double/triple team, he can easily see & pass over them.
What impresses me the most in Wemby is how mature he is for his age. If you compare him to Zion or Morant, it´s like comparing a 35 year old man against 2 teenagers. When you hear Wemby on interviews, you can see how down to earth he is. I´m a Dallas fan, but even Luka feels different, I feel that Luka is also a little immature, like a spoiled child, while Wemby seems much more mature on court, does not complain as much and think more about team play and win, instead of having his own numbers. Comparing Wemby to Bol Bol, what I see is a huge difference in IQ and discipline for the game. Wemby works on his game, he improves every game, he learns with his mistakes, he analyses the game and come back better, he wants to win, I think he has that Mamba Mentality, while you see nothing like that in Bol Bol. I´ve been watching basketball my whole life, and I am really impressed with Wemby, and I do think he is different than all the young stars we have in the league. He has not only a great future, but he is the present, Phoenix has just seen that.
it all comes down to education and environnement
Two of those guys grew up in the US, one grew up overseas. Pretty simple.
I think it’s funny that people compare Wemby to bol bol as Wemby just had as much points in one game as bol bol has in the preseason and regular season COMBINED
One thing separates Wemby from other rising stars like Ja and Zion is his maturity. I’ve watched him in interviews and he is poised answering the questions. Good thing also is he is coached by Pop.
He was playing with men before this in a professional basketball league that’s why. He came into this league humble like most European players.
That's what European players gets you, mature players. Not ghetto clowns like the U.S.
Your dedication to your channel is inspiring. Keep doing what you love
I'll explain it to you if you don't understand. Ball Ball can do it, Wemby does it.
It's "Bol Bol" mate
Who tf is ball ball.
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Thanks for the “explanation” but I still don’t understand who this Ball Ball dude is?
LMAO "Ball Ball"
He’s gonna win 6 rings before the media learns to say his name right
6 rings my ass lol now while all these other guys are playing
@@Dripking770 It’s a joke, about how everyone says his name wrong.
"Wemby was the best player on the court, with Kevin Durant, and Devin Booker."
That speaks volumes
As a rookie 😳
why would they even name those 2 opponents if wemby just beat them. :p
looking forward to this one 🙌🏽
BTW aren't you forgetting the original Unicorn,,,over 7ft, can hit the three and block shots===Porzingis. That will be interesting when Celts play the Spurs
Bol Bol is missing a key quality that Wemby has....IQ and feel for the game !
By Shaq's comparison, Harold Minor and Michael Jordan have the exact same playing style. 😂🤡
exactly. it's the same ignorance that has every 6'9" white guy compared to Bird
You slow
@@hoopaswagg "You're"
Harold Minor, selected over Shaq as SI's college player of the year in his junior year, and nicknamed Baby Jordan by that same magazine...pretty ironic to bring him up here. It's a good comparison though, just like Bol Bol and Wemby, if Minor had the defense, injury resistance, and offensive consistency that Jordan had, he'd have lived up to his nickname. If Bol Bol had those three things, he'd be a lot closer to the player Wemby is. Shaq was right.
love all the video's keep it up!
aye I clicked for the title not knowing whos video it was but once I heard your voice im like oh this is gonna be a GOOD video
Thank you for getting the perspective right 👍🏼
Probably one of your best takes. Gave an opinion, and backed up with facts and examples. You're really can't argue with any of what you stated.
you been killing it lately man
One thing I think we can agree on: the NBA rigged it for the Spurs. No way they were sending Wembanyama to even the Pistons with Monty Williams. They wanted him with Pop and that organization. Sucks for the other lottery teams, but probably the smart move for the league.
Cope
They didnt just rig it for the Spurs, they rig it for every "special" prospect coming up. This league didn't become a multi billion dollar sports entertainment business by leaving everything up to chance. The plan may not always work but their has always been a plan since 1977.
@@xfacta334 Facts 💯
Yeah Shaq is right in *what he actually said* and not the argument people keep saying Shaq said. He didn't say Bol was a better player than Wembanyama, he just said Wemby wasn't the first time we'd seen someone that tall with those skills.
Technically Bol Bol isnt either when you consider Ralph Sampson so Shaq was wrong no matter how you flip it
He didn't say "Wembanyama" either, because he apparently can't pronounce his name right.
Bol Bol doesn’t have these skills lmao, show me them please, show me him double blocking on the same play, show me Bol Bol jumping from outside the key dunking the ball, etc etc NO ONE HAS DONE THIS AT THIS SIZE PERIOD. You can pretend they did I guess the 7ft tall skinny kid I went to highschool with who could shot a 3 and dribble is on wembys level too then right and I can compare them bc I seen a tall guy play basketball before so it’s the same? If this how we gonna go then I guess lebron better drop out of the top 2 and we can stop hearing about how old he is bc a bunch of 38 year olds have done what lebrons doing in the nba before. Even as a lebron hater I understand how STUPID that comparison is, but if this is the standard then that’s the standard and lebron ain’t doin nothin special then bc wev seen it before
It's just nonsense on so many levels. We have seen Abdul Jabar 40 years ago. We have seen Wilt Chamberlain. In the NBA anyone can have a highlight reel. You can make Ben Simmons look like a HOFer. And where is the cut off? 7'2? Embiid has handles and can shoot, so can KD. So can Jokic. To a degree KP, the unicorn. But non of them is THAT tall, has THAT reach and has had THAT impact so early and so young.
How it's possible to compare Bol Bol with Victor 😂 you're so funny in the US....🇨🇵
His only potential weakness is his risk of injury and the mental pressure. He seems like such a great kid and so mentally well equipped that he might be up to the task. Injury is always a risk and time will tell. He is a unicorn and there is no denying it.
Thank you for pointing all this out and giving Shaq credit. Everyone is wrong sometimes, but the difference is simply “Bol isn’t very good” and Victor is great and mature and that’s a huge difference when comparison strikes more than highlights
Shaq said he's afraid his "legacy's" in danger, without saying it
I get that Shaq comes off as insecure a lot (“how many rings you got, Chuck?”) but his legacy is cemented imo. There will never be another force quite like Shaq.
@@papachung6639 There will. Shaq isn't known for his work ethic, he just struck gold in the genetic lottery. Odds are, someone with his talent will come along eventually, and perhaps even show that Shaq's tale is not one of greatness, but laziness and missed potential.
Barkley was undersized. Had he been Shaq's height, it wouldn't have hurt his resume. Shaq wouldn't have made the league at 6.6.
@@papachung6639 nah = this is obvious jealousy = Victor does everything Shaq "couldn't" do & he does it very well = in "2-3" years, Shaq's going to "eat" his words literally
@@finnb2318 we’re mostly saying the same thing. That genetic lottery is what made him such a “force” like I was saying. Getting big and strong AF was something he did not have to work at, so I’m with you on the work ethic part.
@@finnb2318you’re crazy, don’t disrespect Shaq like that…you guys in these comments are just weird!
Wemby has been taking over in the 4th quarter and his IQ on the floor is great for a 19 year old
People seem to write off playing against men oversees when these prospects are growing up. The talent level isn't equal to the NBA but the toughness level is, maybe higher.
Good one bro- very astute.
Keep it up 🔥
great video
Thanks you for making this video. People are just clueless. Nothing against Bol and hope he improves but this narrative that’s been going around about Bol Bol and Wemby is just crazy.
A.M. Hoops you’ve been killing it man
Ive been using Bol Bol as my starting power forward on my 2k franchise mode
So if I hear you, in a different light it would be good for Bol Bol to play overseas where he may get more playing time to develop his game.
Shaq wasn’t saying Bol Bol is AS GOOD as Wemby, just that he had the guard skill set as a 7+ footer in the NBA before Wemby did. Shaq is so combative that he often doesn’t qualify himself clearly because he goes on a defensive attack so quickly.
It's also a lot of bark for a little bite. I mean, Shaq has a point, but he was always gonna get more heat than making the point was worth.
He could have said it better by comparing Bol Bol's hype to Wemby's hype, and telling to tamp down on the expectations.
He might have well said, we have seen KD. Would have made more sense. Bol Bol is a mere 4 inches taller than KD. Wemby is 2 inches taller than Bol Bol and has 5 inches more standing reach. It's completely arbitrary where you make the cut, so imo it's a nonsense discussion to begin with. You could bring KP, Embiid and Jokic into the same discussion and say, we have seen Wemby before. But it wouldnt be true in the speicific aspect that everyone else sees it. The complete picture of Wemby is unprecedented.
It was before Shaq's time but I really think the comparison here should be Ralph Sampson who was actually slightly bigger than Wembanyama and able to put the ball on the floor in a similar manner while playing good defense. Wembanyama, of course, shoots better and more frequently from the outside but that's more of the evolution of the game than anything else.
no they are the same height (7´4)
Let's hope injury doesn't end him like Sampson
Sampson had athleticism and height. But he doesnt have the handling,3pt range.Nor did he have post game out to 20ft mid range . L or R turn around like A SG . Sampson didnt have the agility to guard sg's . Ralph was super athlete at 7-4" . He had good jumper out to 19 . Sampson was unique in 80's prefering mid range jumpers over back to nasket every trip down
Actually, they started getting a lil jealous of Bol Bol's popularity in Orlando, IMO. The reason he would take it coast to coast is because, they would literally not pass him the ball when he would be wide open. The organization was more focused on making Paolo the man and a fan favorite, but it wasn't happening. Paolo and Suggs wasn't passing $hit and Wagner was looking for his brother, so he wasn't passing. Basically, what happened was WCJ came back from injury and then they cut his minutes dramatically. He started getting straight garbage minutes at that point. The only difference is Wemby got the keys to the car and Bol doesn't. It made absolutely no sense for a coach to not play Bol against Wemby in back-to-back games against each other.
Yeah if Bol Bol gets the right situation where the coach and teammates believe in him he could become something special too. More importantly though he has to take basketball and his fitness and workouts and diet serious. Supposedly he's lazy and not dedicated to the game. That's the real difference between him and Wemby, Victor really wants it. Some players just never get it, like say a Cam Reddish. The coaches and teammates around them all the time see them not taking it serious so they lose faith in them then their role and minutes get diminished for guys that are working hard every day. Jr Smith comes to mind too, he still had a good career but he had the tools to be a superstar, with his jumper and athleticism if he wouldve worked like Kobe he couldve been that good. Plus i feel like he never had a serious injury, some guys bodies are just built for basketball like LeBron, Vince Carter or like an Iguodala. Like their body, muscles and bones and I guess the way they naturally move altogether is perfect for it. Others like T Mac or Penny or D Rose had all the skill in the world but were destined for injury.
How would you expect Bol Bol to get the pass when never gets into position, just stand in the 3 point line waiting for the pass. Wemby, cuts the basket, goes low post, is very active moving around the court. Bol Bol is also not a willing passer. If I'm his teammate I also wouldn't pass the ball to him knowing he would pass it back, after receiving the ball he either shoots or turn it over.
had the same thought his minutes got cut before he started playing bad, they also rarely ran any plays for him so he was just cleaning up scraps most the time. I am starting to believe he has an issue with effort though, we have seen when a team stops giving him real time he stops trying for sure.
Yeh because Paulo is actually a good player
Wemby did not just get the keys to the car, he earned them.
Something that really pissed me off is when you said "that shooting is russell westbrook shooting." Like bro people have forgotten how the Lakers stuffed up his career with bad positioning, bad plays and overall everything going against his skill set plays he is used to. Even on the clippers he is coming back slowly.
your content is so underrated,great video again,Wemby is just not from this world,slenderman is the real deal.🔥GREETINGS FROM MEXICO!
I feel like people forget about Porzingis. He was doing this back in NY before he got injured but obviously not as good as Wemby. The kid is 19 and he looks like has some years in the NBA experience.
👍🏾 Good job
If you were in France last season, you'd know Wembanyama was surrounded by an already CRAZY hype throughout the country, TV, kids, crowds of fans, NBA scouts all the time, all arenas sold out when his team was in town, really "Beatles on tour" like!
And he's from Paris with all the temptations of big cities and stayed focused on his goal
With teammate Coulibaly, he only lost in the finals against Mike James' Monaco, 3rd best team in the Euroleague after beating another 🇨🇵 Euroleague team in semis.
He did amazing against Euroleague level players here so we are all confident he'll do even better in a quiet (boring!) town like San Antonio in which players only think about practice and play
hey hey hey why you gotta diss San Antone like that?
@@TheBallsbreakers 😂 Come on, everybody knows San Antonio is a quiet town, especially compared to Paris where he's coming from!
It has its ups and downs !
I think that on top of the consistency issues with Bol, NBA teams don’t want to risk the liability around his health. He almost didn’t make it into the league because of it and he’s destroyed verified trades because of failed physicals. High risk for mid-level gains makes no sense to most teams even the rebuilding ones
That suit comparison is 👌tho
Fire video
Well Ralph Samson was the first 7 foot plus to dribble like a guard just no threes sense well it’s the 80’s
As his teammates and Coach Pop get more acquainted with his game and inhuman physical capabilities, they're going to use him more and more effectively. It really looks like he is going to be an all time great!
Bol bol can do the occasional behind the back dribble, hit wide open three point shots at a low percentage clip and dunk. Wemby can do everything better, including defense and playmaking while doing it more consistently and having a way deeper bag...
We have seen Shaq before Shaq. Patrick Ewing.
What Shaq is saying Bol Bol and Wemby are similar types of players, Bol is just like a prototype and Wemby is the actual product
That’s actually a great analogy especially when people joke about how Victor was created in a lab or a 2k create a player. It’s like someone created Bol Bol first and then when that didn’t work they upgraded everything and created Wemby
When the ball is not on Wemby, You better be alert because Wemby's off ball movement is so quick.
Great video. 100% agree with the Bol/Wemby analysis. Luka does complain too much though.
Can’t believe Shaq gettin his takes from Facebook posts 😂
I'm sure coach Pop is seeing similarities between Wemby and Duncan in terms of maturity at such a young age. Wemby is in the right hands with SA. We'll see some solid development.
Gee, I had to look up who had won NBA MVP in their rookie year after what you said. I never knew that trivia.
Bol bol is a leg injury in college away from having a wemby oppurtunity, bol bol was a lottery pick preinjury . Now his iq and attitude is enough too keep you on the bench . I’m sure he’ll be a decent starter in about 4 years barring further injury
Being able to play with Euro pros at such a young age really will give you an edge when coming into the NBA
Agreed. Wemby is in a completely different league, comparing them doesn't make sense
But of course it does make sense, and it's very easy to do. Here, I'll do it using your own metaphor: Wemby has a similar playing style to Bol Bol, but his talent is in a completely different league. It's like if Bol Bol woke up tomorrow and was actually good, and then woke up the day after and was great.
Comparing Wemby to Bol Bol, is like comparing Jokic to Sabonis…
more like Jokic to Sengun or Nurkic lmao
How in the hell is a bench player compared to an all-star in a playoff team 🤡
Jokic game is near identical to Sabonis' dad in his prime. It's a shame he was stuck in the USSR all those years.
If Bol Bol not injured his foot in college I think he not bench now in the NBA
Here's hoping that Bol Bol will finally wake up, learn from Wemby and Chet and start to fulfill his potential.
Wemby is like the same build, but a 85 OVR to Bol Bol’s 70 OVR
The difference is maturity drive and consistency shot selection and IQ
Porzingus, just entered the chat!
Shaq is right bol bol did have some hype but it went away and it’s like he doesn’t exist anymore.
I understand what Shaq was trying to say but it’s still two very different things to see someone do something and to see someone do something consistently
I think the biggest difference between a lot of top young talent in any sports now, is maturity. In either basketball or football(soccer) the youngest players that are doing great and are in route to becoming the spearheads of the next generation are players are humble and seem mature. That’s what I’ve noticed.
Not even necessarily humble, I'd say someone like Ant Edwards is mature mentally and physically compared to others his age. He may be cocky and funny, but he has something in him that seems mature.
Here in an hour ⬇️
Same
Shaq did say the difference is consistency and they do have the same skill set we have seen this before, just not consistently. Nothing wrong with Shaqs argument at all for once.
For the next video do how good are the warriors are and will be this season
Can you make a video on Dereck Lively? He is becoming a really good player right now
I agree Bol Bol and Wembanyama are quite similar. The difference is Wemby went through Europe system while Bol Bol went through the US system.
The Admiral, then Duncan, and now this dude?? Damn Spurs. That’s s just not fair.
when i was 19, i was stupid. i married an older girl i didnt know well, when i didnt even have a job.
People forget that you can have all the tools like athletic abilities, handles, shooting ect but without the mentality, you are just another also ran.
Best wemby video of all time😂😂
Shaq technically was talking about the skill set and height..... But when he says he is more consistent than Bol Bol meaning he is different in another way.
This who Bol Bol was supposed to be 😂
Just ask Chet how quickly the hype cools off. I'm sure Chet is relieved. Meanwhile, Wemby is ooking forward to the next great rookie to calm the b.s. down. But in th meantime, you have the best editorials in the league. 🙌
Stanley Roberts was 7' 285 pounds, drafted out of LSU to the Orlando Magic in 1991
When did we see something like that again? 😂
Who?
Ofcourse,
You made an excellent point about Ja and Zion, Ja is prime example what happens when success and fame gets to your head
You did dirty to my boy Alpi right there for no reason @3:55
When you overhype, the disappointment will be very painful. Remember that guy Ben Simons?
Everyone who collects basketball cards remembers Bol Bol.
Hey! I love both Jokic and Al-P, but I really hope Al-P blossoms to be like Jokic.
Nope, first one was the original unicorn - Porzingis
I haven’t seen one post about scoot or chet
Shaq is technically right, we've seen a 7'4 player who can shoot, dribble, and defend and that's Bol Bol
Who cares about bol
Bol bol can’t defend wtf. His rotations are slow, bad fouls, horrible perimeter defence and trash post defence. Please watch actual games rather than watching clips. There is a reason why he got cut by the ORLANDO MAGIC
Shaq is 6'11"
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San Antonio is perfect for Wembanyama. Not an overbearing media market. Local media always supports the team unlike NYC or LA
I was actually talking to my friends about this. But I used Kristaps Porzingis as the comparison
Big faxxx,another thing. Everyone thinks ,Wemby is going .To get injured.😞
Genuinely so glad he went to the Spurs instead of someone like the Rockets. imagine... I love to see great guys go to a (hopefully) great opportunity. Just so depressing when a young talent gets stuffed on some toxic crap fest and it's not like they can look for another job. They have to suck it up.
Did Shaq say Wemby is bad? No he just said he wasn't first.
wemby ceilings like kriztapp porzingis & yao ming
This video would have made more sense if you would have waited until after 10 games have passed since Victor's first game so it can be an accurate comparison. I don't think Victor will fall off like bol bol but its possible he gets exposed over time as well its only been like 4 games
Are we sure if Bol had a coach like pop, or the NBA backing him, naming him the next big thing, he wouldn't flourish like wemby???
The MAIN difference: Wemby LOVES the game. Bol Bol MAYBE enjoys it.
Bol is also turning 24 in less than 2 weeks . They’re wasting his formative years. Wemby is 19 and already a huge problem. And taller lol