Labyrinth Of Refrain - In Depth Review - Tarks Gauntlet
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2024
- A 1st person dungeon crawler that feels like Disgaea meets witch and the hundred knight?
That's what the designers set out to create, and without a doubt they pulled it off.
But now that they pulled it off, was it an idea worth pursuing?
..yeah. It was.
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Except for a few frustrating moments, including the post-game final boss, I've spent around a hundred hours with this game and I had an absolute blast. It's a very nice crawler and a very good NIS story with fantastic VO as usual.
Finally someone who really understand the complexity of NIS games and gives them the IN-DEPTH review they very well deserve.
Precisely why I bought it last week
Not regretting it in the slightest, DOOD!
XD
(I caught a Prinny reference and LOVED IT)
Yeah but not everything Is complexity. The game Also has the characteristic NIS bloat.
Wow, your review was super in-depth and I love that. I was seeking information that you ended up giving in your review, so thank you for that :) I'll definitely be picking this one up although it looks a tad complex.
Playing the game confused the hell out of me but watching this review really helped me understand a couple things, thanks for this review! Helped me get back into a pretty well made, and insanely complicated game
Thanks for going super in depth with the mechanics, sounds super overwhelming, but almost in a good way (never too much customization and number crunching for me), so I think I’ll grab it. Good review :)
Fully agree
I was on the fence about this game, but your review was very helpful and informative. Keep up the good work!
Awesome in-depth review! Thanks for all the great info. I love how complicated this game is. It looks like a great workout for the brain.
This was a phenomenal review. I didn't even care about this game until I watched this review. Great work. Very thorough.
Easily the best and most in depth review of this game. I actually haven't played Refrain, but I've been putting a lot of hours into Galleria and it has the same mechanics. Just want to say that the sequel seems to have cleaned up a ton of the issues you had with the first. The only thing is they still don't explain everything as well as one would like.
This is an old comment but play Refrain if you haven’t yet. It is scores better than Galleria in every way
IGN 2/10 too many Potatoes references!
People still read IGN?
IGN...
cod 99/10
other games 5/10
rpg/dungeon 0/10
ez review, they can literally copy the vote and post every year the same review just like cod
IGN is the poser side of gaming, besides it would be pretty demanding for they understand the mechanics and make a full playthrough in order to make a decent review.
Seriously interested in this one, especially if I can get it on Switch. Thanks for covering this, probably wouldn't have heard about it otherwise
Wow what a great review. Subscribed.
Great review, the small quirks about each respective console is nice to know; menus can get tedious after a bit. But that portability is nice as well; I’m torn now
This really one of unique game... Definetly good review.
After finishing this game, even with true ending, i still have question for how many thing works.
What i lke most, what can boss do to you, you can do it too to the boss. Like give ailment to boss, or even do gore hit too them with absolute
And, there is certainly way to cheese some boss. Even the final boss, you can make it less painfull, with a skill from a coven. there are some very specific skill that can be used to:
- kill them instantly
- make it easier to handle (even the final boss and final post game boss)
But some of this skill also needed for basic stuff like to even damaging them (the bah bah pact)
Some thing you forgot to mention is about equip syntesis.
You can combine many equip to strenghen one and since its absorb the equip stats, including ailmentinducing one,
With great build, and syntetic equip, you can steamroll many of the bosses as well
Very thorough review - and a well deserved like.
The art in these dungeon crawlers are half the reason i buy them! Amazing art detail on monster design and characters! I'll have to pick this one up! totally overlooked it in the past while with all the other games out there...i love a good DRPG! Shin Megami Tensei strange journey and some of the Etrian Odyssey games are excellent DRPG's that i love so this game will be right at home!
Great review Tarks! Looking forward to the Switch version!
Great review as always, another game to put on my radar, thanks.
This one deserves a try. Dungeon crawler type games are one genre that I've never paid any real attention to over the years.
Hmm thanks for the review. I will probably be a lot less confused when I actually play the game now lol. The art and story is the main draw for me and creating all those beautiful characters. I do like strategy in my games but it seems this one will push me to my limits. Hopefully I enjoy it because I already preordered the limited edition lol
your work deserves a follow
^^
Sounds good to me just got my Switch limited edition from NIS in the mail. Can't wait to get started!
And here I was assuming from screenshots this game would be too simple
vagrant story referenced? approved
Im loving this game; to the point it dragged me away from Dragon Quest XI for a whole evening. Think i'll finish Dragon Quest and come back to this, it's going to take me a lot longer to finish.
I am quite the potato expert myself
My brain😭😭
I know how you feel like what the hell I have to do all of this stuff and I do like a challenge but damn my brain😆.
Dronya, Flula (the messages within the dungeons), Luca and even the side characters made me cry a lot.
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You can have 60 different fellows, all different voices...
Reminds me of 3DS with 7th Dragon VFD
So many interesting personalities I made!
XD
Great review!
6 minutes in and you werent kidding very very in depth game.
Thanks for the review.
This makes me want to play the game
This looks interesting... but ... dude... I know how the NIS games are I have played them.
But this video made me remember that hearing an explanation of a NIS game can be sometimes overwhelming.
And I remember that I have other games that I want to play... and this game would take a looot of time to finish it.
Cool and detailed video by the way.
I mean when you actually play those games you gradually get into the mechanics and adjust. Chances are you can easily finish the game by winging it (if youve played games with lots of mechanics before). Usually by the end of the first playthrough you have a good grasp of the mechanics, combinations and realise how much easier the game would be if you knew what you were doing from the beginning, which usually leads to your second playthrough on harder difficulty trying to min max or find that one super op combo.
But yeah being frontloaded with all that info from the beginning is kinda overwhelming for most people. I personally enjoy it cause i can already discern some stuff that will save me a lot of mistakes early. That being said i think NIS games do a good job of explaining a lot of basic mechanics but also hinting at some more obscure ones without spoiling them so it shouldnt be too hard getting into it. It seems bring a tad more rpg feel to the classic dungeon crawler and the mechanics seem interesting rather than just tedious for no reason. That combined with NIS story, this seems like its gonna be one of those game youre skeptical when you go in but very glad you gave it a chance once youve finished it.
+1 for mentioning Taro.
Also, how would you describe the music? I loved the music of Soul Nomad so does this game compare?
I was sold before the review
And the witch and the hundred knight is on of my fav i would say under the radar rpg.
Voice acting always good with these guys
Hundred knight was great, hundred knight 2 was less so. Much less.
@@airiakizuki5592 i starting to see that. I started it no long ago....and so far story seems lack luster also game play seem far easier
I was unfortunate enough to buy the PS3 version, never could get myself to finish it thanks to the crashes
@@LapanNaxela well upgrade to the ps4 version....it works fine and is on sale now and then on the store. Its bloody good.
Keith Lavelle I refuse to buy the same game twice and reward terrible quality control. Not to mention i don't own a ps4 anyways.
I always come back to this one, hoping you do galleria which I’m currently 25 hours in. It’s amazin. Coven of dusk I only managed two hours and couldn’t get into strangely enough 😮
best review i have seen fot this game so far
The last Dungeon RPG I played was the first 3 Etrain Odyssey games and I loved them. I'll most likely picking this game up for PC. This and the port of Resonance of Fate should scratch my RPG itch for a while.
I got the first 3DS one as well as the DS ones
Hopefully I can get the rest...
Sold. I shall buy this!!
breakable walls have an another texture. and you can check it with the X menu (PC Version) while looking at the wall. The game will say if you can break the wall or not
Damn good review
Thanks for your gorgeous review. Currently, the game is on Steam sale, and I was literally 20 seconds away from purchasing it, but I have changed my mind. Nevertheless, it remains on my wish list, you never know. Maybe next time.
Not my cup of tea but still it was fun to watch the review!
Great review. This game has been on my radar for quite some time, but looks like I have to hold off for a while. I have Yakuza Kiwami 2 to finish and Shenmue 1&2 waiting. This looks like a game you really have to put focus and time into and one you can't really just pick up and play when you have a spare hour or two.
I had to put Kiwami 2 on hold for a while to play this and finish it in time for review. Back at kiwami 2 now though and so happy about it! Loving the game!
great review
This was one of the best story I've had the pleasure of enjoying in a long time including other fields of medias as well.
How can you even possibly like the story after it goes off the rails and says fuck you to everything prior?
Overly complicated game mechanics? Sounds like my type of game
Complicated? I'm 60 hours in and haven't came across anything not straightforward. Game is rather simple.
@@airiakizuki5592 There are deff some obtuse things, like inner and outer natures, rapport (took me an obnoxious amount of time to start using Perfume). And speaking of using items, the fact that over half of items you can use in combat are seemingly useless (and actually meant for disassembling)
My head is already hurting from it XD
@@BNik92 Inner natures are large or engirely pointless, outer natures are very straightforward, Rapport builds up naturally (or through items) and is anything but obtuse.
The fact that the in-battle item tab lets you use anything from the consumable tab is really weird though. I wonder if there's some sort of scrapped hunger mechanic or if feeding pointless food actually raises rapport despite the game saying nothing about it. Either way it's pretty weird and definitely a good point.
Fully agree, starter
Go, DOOD!
XD
(D6 wishlisted ON DAY ONE!)
First of all, thank you for an in-depth review. This is one of the best videos I've found online.
Second, you need to play Dungeon Travelers 2.
Third, how much did you have to grind? In DT2, it's an unspoken rule that you should be at least the same level as the enemies. You have to level +5 if you want to have more peace of mind (but this is no way a guarantee of safety as your party can still get wiped.)
Lastly, YOU NEED TO PLAY DUNGEON TRAVELERS 2!!
I've played Dungeon Travelers 2 haha. Not a bad game by any means, but I won't lie I did find it TOO grind heavy for my tastes. The tedium killed a lot of it for me, as did the 1-way doors and stuff, but the art saved it in many regards haha. My version of the game even came with a mini calendar with a lot of the games art in it. Love having it around.
As per the need to grind, I didn't have to do too much. The game has this cool system where you can stockpile exp. At the end of every battle you spend 1 reinforcement point to stockpile the EXP. The more you do this the more you build an EXP multiplier. After around 20 battles you hit the multiplier cap of x2.99. It really helps level you up when you can get nearly 3x the experience you're supposed to. The catch is that you don't keep any experience while you stockpile, and if you get gameover or leave the dungeon without cashing in your stockpile you lose it all and all your time building it goes to waste.
Tarks Gauntlet With all the new games coming out (already preloaded VC4 + the new ones just announced on the Nintendo Direct), I was ready to pick this up once it goes on sale. Now I may really have to pick it up Day 1. Y U DO DIS BRUH??!!
Haha kidding aside, thank you for the response. Put this under your belt. They got a +1 purchase because of this channel. Keep it up!
Thanks man. I get frustrated easily but I love drpgs most notably wizardry and Etrian odyssey. This will have to do until etrian is finally available on switch
Ngl this is the video that convinced me to pick this game up! I had been looking for more interesting dungeon crawlers, and this looks right up my alley
Incredible review, I wanted it but I know it won't be for me, I can't handle high difficulty and backtracking puzzles..subscribed.
I am really curious about this one.. looks like another Mary Skelter. Shame it's not on vita but comprehensible. Also a shame the release date is in October as I just can't buy the ltd edition disgaea1 and this one together in the same shipment unless I wanna wait forever... and I just can't give up da Prinny plushie can I?
The prinny plush is a must dood.
I wasn't expecting much from this game, the first 30 hours or so are typical dungeon crawling. Then suddenly you hit the point in the game where they start throwing you at Eldridge horrors and the story becomes sad af. I regret spoiling myself on the post-game twist.
I love dungeon crawlers and can EAT them up. I love Disgaea, the art and story telling especially and the nitty gritty, but grinding in strategy RPG’s is hard for me, so this seems PERFECT
Its has grinding. But its not really that painful. Its system are not far from disgaea, being evilities are skill, and transfer soul being reincarnation. And you good to go by only 1-3 reincarnation. But it can really cheese the leveling too
But the system is way more complex than disgaea.
I am very late with this but I beat this today and really enjoyed it, It drove me mad sometimes but I loved all the depth to party creation and customization. Voice acting, characters and story was really cool too I thought, Though it veered into child abuse territory where with poor luca at points that was hard to watch :( I thought that UI and menus needed a lot of work though, for all the equipping and swapping and changing you do it was a very messy affair. Why is the stats of armor spread over 3 to 4 different pages? Makes it very awkward comparing stats. Anyway, great in depth review man. :)
Ok I'm sold
The game sounds awesome but overly complicated for me but excellent review overall😆👌.
Does the switch not offer touch screen shortcuts? I always play it portable.
The world needs more reviews like this, thanks!
So I just turned on my switch to check. On ps4, in the options menu you can chose to enable/disable touchpad shortcuts. On the switch where that option would be has been left blank with no substitute. It's always possible they can patch it in though.
That said, there's shortcuts for most menus anyway by pushing "R+D-pad direction," it's just a little more cumbersome and hard to use because the R-button is also mapped to your field skills as "R+A/B/X/or Y." I had a tough time adjusting to using R for 8 different shortcuts but it's not like it can't be done.
If you're wondering if this game is for you I have a helpful tip: It's exactly like the original Final Fantasy games. It's basically Final Fantasy 1 meets Disgaea. And like all NIS (and perhaps all Japanese) games, it's geared to appeal to horny men, so keep that in mind if it matters to you.
You have different classes of characters, you create a custom team of them which starts below the max # members, you walk them around the world engaging in random encounters, battle is turn based, you upgrade with equipment found in chests or won from battles, you grind in easier areas to get through harder ones . . . it's exactly like Final Fantasy 1-3 but with some unique nomenclature and other conceptual tweaks.
'It was worth holding out until the 40 hour mark, where the pace picks up...'
Glowing recommendation.
The game is good before the 40 hour mark, but it becomes great after it. Similar to how Xenoblade 2 worked. That game didn't become great until 30 hours in. Prior to that it's just alright. Some RPGs take a long time to set up everything they need to have an impactful final arc, but it's usually worth it.
Alright consider me sold for sure.
I wanted to pick it up already but now I'm definitely going to get it when I have some extra money on me.
Told a friend I wanted this for my birthday next week, he's gonna order it soon so I'll finally get to play it!
Interesting. I got to the Aster Kingdom (in Nightmare mode), then I got stuck looking for the next key and getting endless stream of way too easy fights. %)
A year late but you sir have my sub
This whole coven and soldier thing reminds me of The Last Remnant
Thank you.
The story and characters seems something I want to get into but dungeon crawling is not my forte, plus it seems to be on the hardcore side too. I'll just watch the all cutscenes version on youtube.
Labyrinth of Refrain plays exactly and I mean exactly like how you would think a mobile game JRPG gacha game would play if got out mobile skinnerbox club and made a real game. Where enemy grunts are laughably easy comically even. But lord helps if you ask to speak to their manager, and put you under 6ft down. I also say this because of how interesting the games healing system work but really not needing to do so. Beating enemies and grunts afterwards at the xp, and loot screen as long as you don't hold XP for multiplier your team gets healed a sizeable chunk. Kinda nulling needing a dedicated potion with legs, and the game putting a lot of emphasizes on damage bursting.
Besides the tedious of switching out gear their is some nice quality of life of not having to total manage everything
Farm metal slimes in the troll dungeon by stockpiling. Profit
Does it have a easy game setting on the game menu
You can switch to easy from the central hub of the game at pretty much any time.
If I enjoyed Etrian Odyssey and 7th Dragon Code, would I enjoy this game?
Get Posion than the Divinity origin sin 2 >~ by way the boss of dungeon most was very x 3 strong! A game with full of challenge and still glad to enjoy ^_¡
Wendee Lee was made for this role
Try Might and Magic X Legacy. Playing it now. It's great! Yeah it's unoptimized and uses uplay but it's lazer focused on great gameplay.
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40 people in an Etrian Odyssey...
WOW
This game looks awesome! But the bit about "wander around a dark area touching walls," and "fall down the SPECIFIC hole" stinks. Looks like having a guide handy, is a must. i
I never got to look at the PC version but i feel that if they're not on par than they'll far surpass them haha. No way they will be worse. As this game only released in japanese before I couldn't find any guides and gameplay of the japanese version is sparse online but I did end up looking some of it up. When the game comes out I imagine help resources will be a lot more accessible.
Oh yeah! I forgot that little caveat: that the game isn't OUT yet lol. You're SO lucky hehe. I'm also happy to see games like Mary Skelter Nightmares (and others) coming out on PC these days too! like....i own a lot of j-rpgs for my ps vita/tv, but to have them on PC means (hopefully) more people will notice them, and devs will be like "Hey, we're making more $ off these games, let's make more of them!" (hopefully they won't fall into the Assassin's Creed type of game trap though.....)
I didn't truly start enjoying this game until the "Mud Exit" ability was unlocked. In fact, i'd be willing to say I HATED this game until that ability was mine. Only once I was allowed to leave the dungeon freely without needless backtracking to the entrance, did I truly start enjoying this game, and felt like I could make real progress without being irritated every time the game told me to return to the caravan to give a Witch Report.
is this something akin to Etrian Odyssey series?
Was stuck at the first witch boss fight for hours she kept ohkoing my team and then I remembered I was in nightmare mode
Something similar happened to me, but I eventually realized I was fighting an optional boss way too early haha.
Which one? I fought the Overlord in dungeon 5 way too early as well.
Armor actually does upgrade just as good as weapons in synthesis but only body armor. Helms and shoes suck.
I think his name was Pecorino... But that sounds distinctly like a monster hunter creature. Either way, the giant pumpkin looking asshole. I would hold out against him well for a while but could never get him to red before he'd start wiping me out.
Lol I freaking lucky when I have 2 avoid tanks in my team that moment. Just attack then heal if get hit. Took me about 50+ turns to kill her.
I thought this would be a good "mid-core" dungeon crawler, but this is totally in the hardcore territory.
Great review.
Do you like it more than Mary Skelter?
I don't personally because I have a hard-on for horror in general, but a friend I saw had reviewed the japanese launches of both games and they edged it out just above MS. They gave this game a 9 where they gave MS an 8.6.
While this game is more mechanically in-depth I think the lighter approach of MS and the world designs just work better. That said this game probably has the more rewarding dynamics between the main characters, so it probably depends on what you're looking for more.
Oh boy, that certainly sounds like NIS's approach to gameplay design... I'm not sure whether I really enjoy what they make anymore these days - I feel like the complexity of their ludicrous number crunch design hit its sweet spot around the time of Disgaea 2 and ever since, it has mostly been complexity for complexity's sake and really overwhelming/annoying for me.
That said, everything else about this game looks fantastic to me.
Ever since the Etrian Odyssey series' switch to the 3DS I've been craving a good DRPG that evolves the 2D portrait style of old without resorting to 3D models instead (though I will say that EO pulled that visual change off quite well) and this does exactly that.
Have you checked out Undernauts Labyrinth of Yomi yet? Same studio that made Stranger of Sword city.
It's available on basically everything and quite often on sale for as little as 20 bucks (Canadian)
@@TarksGauntlet I had not - looked it up just now and damn that's some impressive as hell art, actually looks even more up my alley than this one! Currently it's 50 bucks over where I live, but I'll keep an eye on it and give it a shot next sale, thanks for the recommendation!
@@TarksGauntlet To impose a completely unrequested update here real quick - actually managed to snag Undernauts for cheap yesterday and wanted to repeat my thanks for the recommendation. Hell of a game with one hell of a fantastic visual style, love it so far.
@@HansAlRachid Glad to hear it! My copy only just arrived. Hopefully I can get to it sooner rather than later as well!
Hope you don't mind a question. But I have had my eye on this game for a few months now and as the official release date is just a week away I'm not so sure I want the game anymore. So mind if I ask if you felt the insane coven mechanics at all felt like it ruined the game? I know you said in the video that "it's a battlefield of its own", but did you ever felt when a coven you put time in failed that it maybe frustrated you that you'd have to spend hours to grind a new coven just to try a boss again?
Towards the end I felt it got a bit overwhelming. Most of the game you can get by with just about any arrangement of covens and so I never felt the need to improve what I was already using. Despite not feeling the need to at the time though, I should have done it anyway as it's only logical.
Had I realized sooner how valuable good covens would be towards the end I would have started using them as I acquired them, to level them up and lower their reinforcement cost. So while I did definitely feel some frustration in the very-late game stages it's kind of my own fault for not affording certain things the attention I probably should have.
@@TarksGauntlet so what you're saying is if a coven looks to be of use, but say the cost to use it is a bit high, it is worth using it as it'll pay off in the late game?
Yeah. The more you use a coven the cheaper it becomes to use. If you can use really good covens and keep most of your reinforcement points then you can use your left over reinforcement points to boost your attack and defense power during battles. Those boosts can go a long way.
@@TarksGauntlet right. Well just one last thing. Any tips for this game? Like would you say some classes are only good for so long before a new class comes that can do what the last class does but better.
I wouldn't worry too much about classes. You'll have 6 puppets in no time which means you can have at least 1 of each class in your party almost immediately.
That said, when I was given a review code for the game NISA actually sent a review guide PDF full of "Helpful" hints for new players. I didn't look at it until I actually beat the game and set out to put my review together so it's not like it's necessary to follow their hints, but I'm gonna copy and paste a couple of their hints here. Sorry if this ends up looking like an essay:
"Pay close attention to the options when creating a character. These options affect their initial strength and how they will grow over the course of the game. Preferred Stat Growth influences whether your character grows as a specialist or as a jack-of-all-trades.
For offensive characters, use Moon stance. For tank characters (a.k.a. Peer Fortress), use Sun stance for the defense boost and taunting.
Skill Selection allows you to pick ANY of a class’s skills to give your character upon creation.
This includes their late level/ultimate skills.
◆With regard to Skill Selection, some of the best skills to have a character take are:
Aster Knight: Armor-Piercing
Shinobushi: Sword Master (Improves Dual Wielding)
Theatrical Star: Anti-Donum Heresy
Marginal Maze: Eclipse
Peer Fortress: Unbreakable (AWESOME flat buff to guard)
Mad Raptor: Crossbow Salvo (NO CONTEST)
◆The Bell and Scythe type weapons can attack whole groups of enemies instead of a single target. This makes Theatrical Star characters especially useful at the start of the game.
Marginal Maze characters require a lot of donum, which is not abundant at the start of the game. This makes Marginal Maze characters useful later in the game."
Hopefully that helps. The PDF is 15 pages. 3 pages are early-game hints. This was page 1, and the one I'd argue is most useful.
can you toggle japanese audio with english text in the options menu?
Yes.
@@neilhoughton5471 thx fam
So worth to buy ?
Great review. Personally I love this game and near the first end.
There are a couple points you missed that may help others understand some of the bosses.
The game has 6 dungeons that hold "secret" bosses that are needed to be defeated to get to the post game for the true ending. These bosses are sometimes hard to find and are very hard and meant to be handled LATE game.
A couple of the bosses uncluding the last boss require special covens that have special made donum to open then up. Secret bosses and different tasks will unlock these. For instance Jouon boss requires a Bah-Bah pact which then lets her be hit. In essence there is a bit of a puzzle to beating them.
Also to help with grinding if you have more mana than an area allows you get a chance for a Grim Reaper (escape these) or two very week but highly ex profitable opponents. They drop a high ex coven. One hold 4 characters and the other 6. The High EXP Pact G gives all attackers 360% exp and support 240% exp (or around those numbers.) Mix that with the ability to stockpile exp for 1 reinforcement point with an exp multiplier up to x2.99 exp you cab easily get a freshly transfered soul to level 40 or 50 in less than 30 mins, as exiting the dungeon will also give every puppet in and out if the brigade an extra 20% of the toyal earned in the dungeon.
Here is a really good source someone made for the game which has helped me immensely: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQ4x0Qsfo_VX5DL6FiCI0l8USCZqYbUfjti7_9sYA_LLjSZhmlDvbbu9zTXUDq13QOniTWPQBBmB7dS/pubhtml#
Labrynth of Refrain is a phenomenal game IMO and I cant recomend it enough for those that like creativity in their RPGs and depth!
ei Tarks, answer me something. Nowadays we see console jrpgs absorbing influences from MMO and mobile games( both in gameplay and presentation). I see this in this game and in xenoblade chronicles, where, for example, the battle system is not exactely turn based or real action. Do you feel this is the way to go?
Broad question haha. I absolutely love Xenoblade chronicles. One of my favorite JRPG's of the last 10 years. That said, designs like this certainly won't work in everything. Mobile game presentation is typically a big no for me, but MMO mechanics can be used well.
Thanks for answering.
the presentation makes me cringe. whenever i see gameplay like this i always think there is too much on screen. A sort of overdose, something that is digestable if you are playing for 10 minutes while commuting but doesnt feel right when playing an rpg for several hours.
I would also say that its hard for younger players to go from this to older, much simpler rpgs. Not only they have to face the "bad" graphics" but the games will feel empty and basic.
So how much "potatoes" are in this game?
It's nothing insane really. Just a few rather revealing outfits. Most of them are on your puppets and you can choose to use other outfits if you want, but there are a few bosses here and there that show enough to warrant the warning for people who are sensitive to that sort of thing. Just enough to get the M rating I think.
Looks complicated 😅
Is this a good game. I like wizardry but this looks like to much
I think I'll just wait for atlus to make Etrian odyssey on switch.
I'd rate this as being up there with the best Etrian games.
KGhaleon well let me ask this. How much freedom do you actually have in your party creation? Can I make a healer class look at their skills and say "you know what, I'm gunna make this guy focus on dealing paralysis, and blind most of the time while making their cure capabilities a secondary thing."
Or say I see a tank class and notice it has a lot of offensive skills that could potentially make them a power house. Could I build them in that way? Or are the healers only gunna learn healing skills and that's it. And a tank is just a tank. I know in Etrian odyssey you don't make a class do the secondary thing as the main thing often. But the fact it's an option and you can do some crazy and fun things like that is why I love Etrian odyssey. It's not just the dungeon crawling and drawing your own map is nice, but it's not the main appeal for me either. It's the class freedom. And from what I seen so far. Just like all of NIS's other games. It's all about making it as complex as possible. And while I like it with disgaea, It's kind of a major turn off in this style of game for me. The demo is there but I'm not sure I want to try it right now.
There's a wide range of classes from tanks to high damage attackers to magic DMP classes. The skills or magic that you can use depends on the coven you select(and can change anytime). I have a couple of tanks in my party that start battles by aggroing enemies, then I have ninjas and knights that deal big damage, a healer that also buffs, and then I've got my magic spell casters in the far back. I can set various formations and you get bonuses depending on your layout.
The third gender is 'hardcore' right?
LOVE THIS
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1:54 Tractie: .\
Luca: X-)
Dronya: D-:
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First!
Man, it's 4am where I live! Surprised anybody I know is even awake now haha. Always love having you around Reggie!
Just like most NIS games, they seem to not give a shit about random encounters but make bosses brutal. I prefer something ATLUS-style where you're always at risk... especially if you have to do all this insane micromanagement.
I've got some good time into this and unless u overlevel urself they have some pretty dangerous mobs that u can run into..
There's a reaper clone if you get to much Mana btw. Functions the same as the Persona 3 one did.
I don’t want that overly complicated combat system, I just want the story! :(
I played the game. At the beginning things can become overwhelming but you can finish it without bothering to things like synthesis. I haven't done it either. The endgame is challenging but like the reviewer says, switching to easy mode does not punish you. A good idea is to make characters from walkthrough videos. Thetwitgamer made a good party with powerful attack magic and good defense. After a good amount of playing you learn a lot of things by yourself.
Wth, this game has deeper mechanics than vagrant story
THE MOST CONFUSING GAME EVER
At the 7:19 all I hear was gibberish stuff
First time, huh?
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I respect the mechanics but the game's story and characters make me want to take a shower. Sleazy
When it comes to the soundtrack, it is almost shameful you didn't mention the credits theme sung by Emi Evans.
Ready to feel more shame?
Emi who?
@@TarksGauntlet She is famous for many songs, such as the credits theme for Dark Souls, and many songs from both Nier, Drakengard 3 and Nier Automata.
@@matteste all of which have great osts, I just can't possibly know everybody.
I had a tough enough time with how complicated Stranger in Sword City became without needing to fill out brigades and rosters of 40+ members, and paired with the lack of a Vita release, this is definitely a skip for me, which is a shame considering how great the art is.
Thanks for reviewing it.