Also you can create 3 shared evility sets at the top of the list with the 1st having Image Change & Secret Recon, the 2nd having just Recon, while the 3rd has all the stat boosting evilities that you recommend.
@@jaycobhughes3932 1 juiced pirilika has 7-10B hp+sp. with dlc evilities, while 1 normal one has 1M hp. 1,3B HP(128 normal fodder) with wiping in battle + loading times(?1min?) or 7-10B hp+sp in 3secs? The only way wiping is better is if you can HP juice with evilities 60+ chars.
Something ain't right here... The enemy layout is completely different for me?! There's 4 zombie girls, 4 gazers and 1 rifle demon spread out on the same map mentioned here. The geo effects are -50% wind resist, no lifting, and enemy turbo 3x as well!
For all those getting around 100k EXP there is a couple things to note. Firstly his party is entirely at 9999 which will result in higher numbers as all EXP is diverted to juice bar, so those numbers will be different from yours. Secondly, unlike Happy Song, Prinny Hat/Instructor just has to be on everyone in a single squad. If you put everyone in the largest squad, about 20 people, the bonus works even though you can't bring them all onto the field. I beleive the voter and first aid squads are the largest. With 20 people with the prinny hat/instructor, 10 people with happy song on the feild and using whatever EXP bonus evility will fill the space on your MC you can relyably get around 140k without EXP boosting gear
Higan and Opener have the tier 4 skills you can teach to others. for leveling in the very early stage, martial 1 with zieltregen, toten kreuz, or any other similar skills. 1 star difficulty. Can be used up to level 500 or so, anything past that you're better off at Final Martial stage. if you have between 5-10m INT or ATK then 1 star carnage final martial is the place to go. it DOES give more exp with 2 star but then you need 10+m stats from the start and it's not garanteed to kill all 9 of them at once, they can parry/nick which means they WILL counter attack and kill you if you've just gained 100m hp and 10m def/res. Usually it's better to set up a 10 hit combo. 1 for valkyrie order, one for encouragement(use at END of the chain just in case), and then 7 supporting unit attacking at random. preferably with support attack evility (archer) but not mandatory. then finish the chain with your main unit to trigger a 9+ chain, which basically more than double the final damage, even if the support unit did 0 or missed. or you can also just create 7 sea fairies/clione and you should be fine with the +35% stats boost...
100% accuracy buff (like the one Suisen gives) gets rid of Nicks. Never seen a Parry either, so it gets rid of that too. Alternatively, give another unit Assist (Gunner subclass), and have it shoot first in a combo (useful if you want to get EXP/subclasses for Suisen himself).
For clearing Postlude: Zessho for the first time, I was able to do it with the Maiko class as my only master. Using the Charm ability and utilizing movement to run away. This method of kiting let me rush Zessho/Carnage unlock well before I should have been able to. Hope this helps anyone else that wanted to rush.
It's been mentioned in the comments before, but Prinny Instructors don't have to be fielded on the map, and you can fit 20 of them in the Aid squad and they all work. When grinding class exp, you can skip bringing out the full 10 because of this, which makes it something like twice as fast (for me). Also, if you're already using the Secret Recon/Image Change to farm RP with level 7999 zombies, you can get three 25%+ class exp glasses more or less for free. While you're doing that, you can get MORE than enough juice to make one character able to handle normal*20 martial 5, plus the sword with skill attached.
Some small things I feel could make this guide better: mentioning that the 400% from the prinny hat/instructor comes from maxing out the voter squad and that it will be slower at first. And that by mastering more classes on one unit you get more eviliities and can do it faster. Other than that great guide!
This was incredibly important information for me! Prinny Instructor being on the squad, regardless of whether or not they are on the map, seems obvious in retrospect but I didn't realize it until you pointed it out. Very helpful, thank you!
To clarify you just need more members in any squad that can hold multiple people in it with prinny instructor and prinny hat evilties equipped. For example, my aid squad can hold 20 members in it that all have the two prinny evilties equipped. Now I get the bonus 575% to my class proficiency in battle
I have the prinny hat/instructor combo on everyone in the squad but I can only get to 380% before evilities. I’m apparently missing something but I can’t figure out what.
Another good way to farm the hospital gacha.. and I think it's easier than switching around evilities on a bunch of characters... is to go to the very first stage, 1-1. Pull out one character who can solo that fight (which doesn't take much, since it's the first stage), lift the character named Penne, and throw him into your base panel. There doesn't seem to be anything special about him, but he is a unique character who can't be captured. So, he'll actually defeat everyone in your base panel. Then just mop up with your one remaining character.
So, I've been doing the postgame grind, and now I see why it's recommended to swap those evilities around rather than toss an uncapturable enemy into your base panel. It does appear to be faster! You change a couple of evilities, change them back, heal... and you can also repeat that process to keep building up RP before pulling your gacha. Whereas tossing an uncapturable enemy into your base panel... you have to wait for the fight to load, pull out your tosser, throw the enemy, and then sit through a fairly long animation to get your base panel rekt. Now you finish the fight and wait for your base to load... and now you can go heal up and pull your gacha. If you have "auto-heal at base" turned on at the Cheat Shop, you can instead go right back into that battle to keep building up RP, but you'll still have to return to base each time to get that healing. And then you have to sit through that base battle animation each time, as well as those loading screens. The "failed capture" method is simpler, but it is slower. On the plus side, I found it easy to build Ao up to four stars in each class while I was at it by making her the one who tossed Penne into my base panel and then cleaned up afterwards. I used the Carnage version of 1-1 at 4*, and Ao went from 0 to 4 stars on most classes every two kills. I don't like switching around evilities constantly, but that method does appear to be faster. But the slower, simpler method of abusing an uncapturable enemy does allow for some multitasking if you're still building yourself up for those high-end challenges.
Good information, FYI I dont see any value in bringing our other characters when class mastery farming unless there is an evility not included in the video. I did some tests and got the exact same mastery experience bringing everyone out and then only the character being leveled. None of the evilities being used boost class mastery experience when out on the field, prinny instructor/hat will work if not deployed. Should save a few seconds per fight.
Are you struggling with low hp enemies? do they kill you when you would have won if you could attack only once more? You know about the Maiko's skill, Encouragement, right? You know you can only use it once per target, right? Do you have DLC Melodia? Her "Passionnate approach" has the same effect as "Encouragement"... but it works on a unit that has already received an extra turn from the Maiko! Which mean you can get 3 action in a single turn! Do get her as one of your main support unit, she is more than worth it.
If you use the "extreme" evilties when grinding back up to level 9999 after mastering classes while in the Overlords Guard squad(25% exp, +100% stat growth) then you can get every stat except HP and SP maxed out by around level 9,200 without putting any points into them. It's my preferred strategy, since it let's you shift to ultimate HP/SP evilties at around 8,500 and max out EVERYTHING(or at least as much as possible).
Should note that study whiz can be obtained at the Mid level evil-gatcha grade. Had to use some trial and error. If anyone knows where to get the rest of the job proficiency evilities it would be appreciated.
I'd recommend putting some percentage into Subclass Mastery. You'll level slower of course, but the subclass stars will further bump up your stats per level. Switch to another subclass when you get 3 or more stars (later on, you can get to 5 stars easily). I'd start at Martial Trial 1, at 1 star (the lv99 Dragon's give EXP like a lv323 Dragon, while being far easier to kill). Stay there till lv500+. Then you can climb through the other Martial stages and attempt the Final Trial. At Final Trial, I'd start at 0 or 2 stars. Bump it up 2 or 3 stars when you start one shotting the enemies. At 9 stars, you'll hit lv2000 easily. Some of my tips if you are struggling to kill these enemies early on. -Park Suisen next to your attacker for 100% accuracy and 100% critical rate (this prevents Nicks and Misses, stabilizing your damage, and also raises your base damage). Feel free to give him Happy Hour and Developmental Support while you're at it. -Starting the grind off with Fuji is an option. He hits twice with Sword skills by default. -Make a Angel Soldier, and have it cast Valkyrie Order, this let's the attacker hit twice with specials (3x if it's Fuji). -If that's still not enough, bring a Maiko in to cast Encouragement, so you can attack again (for another 2 hits). The Maiko is just there to get over the initial bump. Ideally you'll want to clear the maps with just Valkyrie order. -And god forbid, if THAT still ain't enough, Melodia has a buff that also let's the target act again (another 2 hits).
Cool, I haven't made an Angel yet and I was wondering how Valkyrie Order would work on Fuji. Thanks! Also... Melodia and a Maiko can both use their "act again" skills on the same target, giving that target three actions in a turn. A character can only benefit from Encouragement once a turn and Passion Approach once per turn, but you can use both on the same target in one turn. And Valkyrie Order is a buff that lasts for three turns, so it will stack with those two "act again" skills to let most characters throw six specials in one turn or, apparently, let Fuji throw nine specials in one turn.
If you have any DLC characters, another easy way to farm rp is to go into a battle with any of the DLC characters and throw them into your base panel. I prefer this method over tinkering with evilities. I just made sure to put HP and SP boosting evilities on everyone for the extra boost. I could equip them all with muscles for extra HP as well but as it is, a few rounds of this gets me a s**t-ton of RP in a fairly short time.
If you don't have the DLC, you can use the very first stage, 1-1. Toss the character named Penne into your base panel. Like the DLC characters, he's a unique who can't be captured, so he'll defeat everyone in your base panel. 1-1 is probably easier than the DLC battles, since they scale to your level while 1-1 does not.
If you are having issues on carnage 2 Star MT5, spend the 1 million mana on opening a unique slot, then max out Female Fighter's Class first. Assault Attack goes a super long way to help out damage for effectually free. There's a reason Primal has a pack of female fighters in his Zed squad =) Unique Characters especially can use this, generics can just reincarnate into female fighters.
I must be missing as following the begining of the guide (the part concerning the exp). I get about 150 million exp per clear which is VERY far from the 1.9 billion you are making. Same evilities, same stage, more CP in exp and 20 stars difficulty... Did you have triple exp on or something? Even that would not explain it all...
If yoyu could make a guide for complete beginners, like absolute beginners, I would love you so much. I just don't know what to do and feel so overwhelmed by everything and I'm only in chapter 3. I think I'm gonna quit which is a shame because the charm in this game is so appealing.
What's overwhelming? Are you stuck on the chapter 3 boss? If so, send out a couple units alone, don't have everyone leave the base. They'll get smooshed, but that's fine. You want to build the rage meter so you can send in Fuji to jumbo mode. You should be okay after that
@@badsketch9264 I ran it through Google Translate, and I still think "wat" is the correct response. Bob asked what BadSketch was talking about, and said that he beat the game in two hours and took down Carnage Baal in seven hours. I'm not going to dispute that; it may well be possible. But I would be mighty disappointed if I bought a Disgaea game and was done with it in seven hours. I expect to get hundreds of hours of fun out of a Disgaea game.
@@Marina40499assuming you have maxed all classes, did you use a 6* class? I had no trouble with a war lady with maxed classes placed in the overlord squad. As far as evilities, I only had HP and SP growth evilities but still capped the other stats
So ya dont need really need to max out classes to be stat ready for Zessho, just being able to clear final trial at 20 stars will put you at that point as their stats are roughly the same, I'd also abuse the juice shop when reincarnating chars, it takes roughly 80B XP to max out a char, so take a group of max lv chars with XP evilities/setups and farm up a bunch of juice bar XP then reincarnate, equip all of your best stat growth evilities/gear then use the juice bar to level back to max(can probs also do this with overlord squad, just put the reincarnated char in it before you max their level) and now that I think about it, you should probably equip Pirilika and the rest of your team with the best HP/SP stat growth evilities when maxin their lv to further increase the RP gained from your method and they do stack with the secret training and stat growth traits from gear so if you have the Boosty weapons make sure to equip them too Another thing to point out is that you can setup a DI to do the tower for you so that you can abuse the development support evility especially if you passed the skip stage bill and it does stack up to 9x(use humanoids when doing a tower setup as monsters cant lift so ya can only have one at most and they'd have to go last) DI setup for tower on final trial Attacker: target enemy forces - nearest unit - move toward target - 9x wait for other units - target enemy forces - use X skill Tower bottom char: if attacker is present - move toward target Booster 1: wait for other units - if tower bottom char is present - move toward the target - tower climb Booster 2: 2x wait for other units - if tower bottom char is present - move toward the target - tower climb Booster 3: 3x wait for other units - if tower bottom char is present - move toward the target - tower climb Booster 4: 4x wait for other units - if tower bottom char is present - move toward the target - tower climb and you just keep adding a wait for other units up to 8x
couldn't you set a DI to have all units move to the spot right before your killing character for the leveling portion? then as long as you have some gas saved up which you probably do or will for subsequent characters you can auto it to max xp per run with negligible time investment.
i've set up the evility like you did in the video, put the cheat shop exp to 800% and im not getting more than 110m exp without the assembly bill triple exp Edit:It turned out that the reason was because i wasn't max level yet.obce i hit 9999 It showed similars numbers
I just got the game two weeks ago but so far I've seen one sword/fist tech 4 on a normal blue dragon blade with like 1200 attack lol. When I found it, I first locked it ,then liked it and named it Free Heavenly =) By far the most passed around weapon and has stalled weapon skill training so far because of it. I used Fugi as my Zed on account his attack twice for sword skills has got me past so much. He can do (before DLC) 3 star MT final but with hasty .... dunno he's been baby sitting the other 9 the last couple days. Even nerfed Prinny Instructor is so OP I'm now maxing out the other 9 main characters at the same time (almost done!). I abused juice to shore up the two physically weakest characters so they can use the sword and own 20 star normal Final Trial Martial no problem. Taste of Victory gets the 1 point award for best of class and does an amazing job smoothing out the kinks . I have way more than 100 runs of that stage =) A BIG Thank You for all your d7 vids!
Sorry for the re-post but something I recall from Disgaea 5 was that In a Tower you only needed one copy of trash pickup to support the entire tower. Fast forward to D7 and well..... I've learned something. Since I use Suisen exclusively as a floating backpack mate if I load him up with every evility that Fugi does not have, including Common and Unique then the two of them share everything! So putting together a fast think through that was not optimized other than hasty and vital, I went from 3 star Carnage MT Final to 16 star. 17 star left 2 at supper low heath but wiped the floor with the both of us =) Never mind, swapping Assault to the guy who does not float pushed me to 18 stars. 19 was just a bit ugly 3x sliver of life rifle cannon demons left only 34 million hp left, what if I add a third to the tower... yup 20 stars with Yasu in the middle scarping the barrel in terms of evilties lol
Awesome video dude, hope they sort the Fuka DLC on switch, it's still missing from the season pass. Still working through the story atm not in a massive rush 😁👍
In another comment thread, he said that the reason is that the character (zed) is max level (9999). This means that all of the exp that would have gone into leveling the character went directly into the juice bar. If you are still seeing the lower numbers, it is probably because the character is still leveling up. When I did it with a level 9999 character, I got 2.9 billion exp.
It seems that way to me. I've been going to stage 1-1 and throwing Penne into my base panel, since he's uncapturable. Even my gimpiest character has zero trouble soloing that stage after Penne destroys my base panel.
Another tip that might be helpful to get sword levels up- use a female samurai as the base character to start. The A rating in swords is the highest of the generic characters ive seen.
I’ve always liked the disgaea series but never got into the post games because they are always just “exploit the game by farming the same stage and then one shot the whole game after that” or are too nebulous for me to figure out how to go from the story ending to whatever is next. Here is a maybe a dumb question tho: is there a quick and easy way to tell what stat spread the game would expect you to have on a given stage especially in the post game? With the nebulous way levels and stats interact I would like to know what the minimum to tackle a stage could be so that I could do more than just one shot everything and kind of maintain the gameplay that I partake in while doing the story before the stats get absurd and enemies stop mattering.
really the only way of knowing because of different builds ect would be to try the stage, did you get destroyed? swap evilities or get more stats and try again
I used the prinny squad And make sure hp is high enough to bomb the final stage martial and class enhancement To master my classes might be Slower but that’s how I master my classes
Something of note, if you get a unit a skill like sword 4 from an item or the skill squad, if you spend mana to boost its power, that boost will reset if you loose the skill and later get it again.
Instructions unclear, got stuck on the Third Trial. Edit: ended up beating it by using the grinding method described only on a 0 to 4 star First Trial. I still think these stages should be considered as part of the postgame instead of glossed over, though.
So I already did all the grind and beat carnage baal stage 4. Im mainly just curious how to get trapezohedrons/carnage trapz and max rank weapons other than the neo baal sword. I've run through arcadias, the neo baal sword and havent found anything. Could you maybe explain the proper way to farm any of these for us?
I reincarnated once after mastering all classes and my stats were only at around 3-4 million each, not 10 million. I'm still not sure exactly how you're running around with all your characters at 24 million each after Juice Bar and RP farm.
It's from the Life Support Squad, when you level it up it and have a member inside it then you can use triggers for opening quick menus within the nethership along with double/triple jump in the ship
is it possible to get a monster unit the Sword skill? and how do you get that weapon skill in the first place? My first guess is Item Reincarnation but I'm not sure how it all works
I'm up to the class xp farm part but I only have like half the amount of XP Gain as you? I'm using the DLC evilities, everyones in the same squad to get that benefit, what am I missing? I just have prinny intrustor on each guy except main guy has PI, Prinny hat, Pro class changer, Career Master and Workshop Intern
is your xp char on the same squad as the prinny instructor? (XP char with class xp eviltiy in the battle, XP char that has prinny hat and 19 other with prinny instructor in the aid squad or voter squad for example should get 605% i think)
Thank you for the videos but since I'm new to the series, any help leveling units during the main campaign helps as getting to the point to do these things is still long ways off
@@WolfKead is it normal to feel like leveling just the main dude to the point where he can solo everything, cuz that's where I'm at 😅. I'm trying to equally level the main characters like Fuji, shogun and rich girl
@@raptorate2872 if You want to get op fast, then You should just Focus on one character. Let them have all the exp and get to ridiculous levels. After that, You can level up any other character way easier than just trying to level them up all together.
I was wondering the same, but then I remembered the juice bar. I just tested it and you can get the bonus stats from just levelling via the bar. And while you'd need a hell of a lot of exp extracts to take you to 9999, you won't need to use that much to get back to whatever levelling method you're using. I already had higher stats than before reincarnating at max level well before I was half max level.
@@TheUnsmiley I was wondering shouldnt be faster to prefarm xp on max character (esp. with prinny instructior/hat DLC so you get more XP since squad size is higher than 4 slot) than leveling by battle after reincarnation? (Also not sure how the XP reduction from the overloard's guard squad interacts with the juice bar)
At 10:20 or so your rising heavens isn't leveled up at all. Leveling even a few times would let you one shot without any other ally help. Even skills learned by a weapon passive are able to be leveled up
Привет , сколькож ты дерьма показываещ которого не будет у людей играющих в ету игру. там где у тебя 700-1000% мы даже 205% не наскребем !! по итогу просто всираем 24/7 свое время которое можно потратить на РЕАЛ !
I also had that issue. I found out the problem. If you read the effect of prinny instructor carefully, it mentions that they have to be in the same squad. So you have to put them all into the same squad in order for it to work.
@@helluvadetective is your xp char on the same squad as the prinny instructor? (XP char with class xp eviltiy in the battle, XP char that has prinny hat and 19 other with prinny instructor in the aid squad or voter squad for example should get 605% i think)
there is actually a much faster way to cause mass party wipes in general to heal them up afterbattle to obtain huge amounts of RP, if you throw a unit you cannot recuit into the base panel it will automatically break it,and wipe out every single unit in base, this can be done with a unit you cannot hire yet at the recuiter, OR with any bosses,in particular, dlc bosses are often very close to base and often solo and easy to kill, in doing so it will wipe out every single unit in the base, provided you have units out that can clear the level and then heal every unit wiped out at base afterwards, you will gain enourmous amounts of RP with minimal effort in setup, with or without dlc as well, as its not uncommon to get story mode bosses close to the entrance, this can be done precarnage mode or post-carnage mode for enourmous amounts of RP as your characters grow stronger and more and more are high leveled, this will exponentially scale, though it can be tricky to actually keep up with the HL drain from so many characters being taken out, if youve put life insurance on you can get big returns thoughs im not sure the ratio or how effective this is truthfully as i have not extensively tested that out via base wipes
this can also be done with units you actually CAN recruit, but that are just much much stronger then anything you have in base, they will wipe it out though sheer stats,though if there THAT much stronger then your entire base then you might have issues killing it with whatever you have on the field lol, though the capture squad will make the base units much more powerfull for the purposes of decideing if you can catch them
this is NOT faster, firstly theres all the added loading times involved and secondly you're only recovering hp then and not SP. this is a method where quality is far better than quintity
forgot to mention, also use Magic bias evility when doing the RP farm
is there a reason this method of rp farming is much faster then just mass wipeing your base camp though tossing a boss into the base?
Also you can create 3 shared evility sets at the top of the list with the 1st having Image Change & Secret Recon, the 2nd having just Recon, while the 3rd has all the stat boosting evilities that you recommend.
@@jaycobhughes3932 1 juiced pirilika has 7-10B hp+sp. with dlc evilities, while 1 normal one has 1M hp.
1,3B HP(128 normal fodder) with wiping in battle + loading times(?1min?) or 7-10B hp+sp in 3secs?
The only way wiping is better is if you can HP juice with evilities 60+ chars.
Something ain't right here... The enemy layout is completely different for me?! There's 4 zombie girls, 4 gazers and 1 rifle demon spread out on the same map mentioned here. The geo effects are -50% wind resist, no lifting, and enemy turbo 3x as well!
@@theend2574 Every map has different mobs and geo effects after you beat it.
For all those getting around 100k EXP there is a couple things to note. Firstly his party is entirely at 9999 which will result in higher numbers as all EXP is diverted to juice bar, so those numbers will be different from yours. Secondly, unlike Happy Song, Prinny Hat/Instructor just has to be on everyone in a single squad. If you put everyone in the largest squad, about 20 people, the bonus works even though you can't bring them all onto the field. I beleive the voter and first aid squads are the largest. With 20 people with the prinny hat/instructor, 10 people with happy song on the feild and using whatever EXP bonus evility will fill the space on your MC you can relyably get around 140k without EXP boosting gear
So its not possible to gain this bonus and have the character at the squad that raises growth, right?
Even though statistician grinding was tedious, I still miss them. It was just easier to have an objective imo
Higan and Opener have the tier 4 skills you can teach to others.
for leveling in the very early stage, martial 1 with zieltregen, toten kreuz, or any other similar skills. 1 star difficulty. Can be used up to level 500 or so, anything past that you're better off at Final Martial stage.
if you have between 5-10m INT or ATK then 1 star carnage final martial is the place to go. it DOES give more exp with 2 star but then you need 10+m stats from the start and it's not garanteed to kill all 9 of them at once, they can parry/nick which means they WILL counter attack and kill you if you've just gained 100m hp and 10m def/res. Usually it's better to set up a 10 hit combo. 1 for valkyrie order, one for encouragement(use at END of the chain just in case), and then 7 supporting unit attacking at random. preferably with support attack evility (archer) but not mandatory. then finish the chain with your main unit to trigger a 9+ chain, which basically more than double the final damage, even if the support unit did 0 or missed.
or you can also just create 7 sea fairies/clione and you should be fine with the +35% stats boost...
100% accuracy buff (like the one Suisen gives) gets rid of Nicks. Never seen a Parry either, so it gets rid of that too.
Alternatively, give another unit Assist (Gunner subclass), and have it shoot first in a combo (useful if you want to get EXP/subclasses for Suisen himself).
For clearing Postlude: Zessho for the first time, I was able to do it with the Maiko class as my only master. Using the Charm ability and utilizing movement to run away. This method of kiting let me rush Zessho/Carnage unlock well before I should have been able to. Hope this helps anyone else that wanted to rush.
It's been mentioned in the comments before, but Prinny Instructors don't have to be fielded on the map, and you can fit 20 of them in the Aid squad and they all work. When grinding class exp, you can skip bringing out the full 10 because of this, which makes it something like twice as fast (for me).
Also, if you're already using the Secret Recon/Image Change to farm RP with level 7999 zombies, you can get three 25%+ class exp glasses more or less for free. While you're doing that, you can get MORE than enough juice to make one character able to handle normal*20 martial 5, plus the sword with skill attached.
в Нормал Мартиал Финал мобы лв 2048.... опыта копейки , можно заипаца даже добивая до 5000лв героя.
Some small things I feel could make this guide better:
mentioning that the 400% from the prinny hat/instructor comes from maxing out the voter squad and that it will be slower at first.
And that by mastering more classes on one unit you get more eviliities and can do it faster.
Other than that great guide!
This was incredibly important information for me! Prinny Instructor being on the squad, regardless of whether or not they are on the map, seems obvious in retrospect but I didn't realize it until you pointed it out. Very helpful, thank you!
Definetely, I needed this piece of information, it was not as clear in the video. Why the voter squat though?
To clarify you just need more members in any squad that can hold multiple people in it with prinny instructor and prinny hat evilties equipped. For example, my aid squad can hold 20 members in it that all have the two prinny evilties equipped. Now I get the bonus 575% to my class proficiency in battle
Thank you, this is what I was missing, I couldn't figure out why I was getting so much less XP.
I have the prinny hat/instructor combo on everyone in the squad but I can only get to 380% before evilities. I’m apparently missing something but I can’t figure out what.
Another good way to farm the hospital gacha.. and I think it's easier than switching around evilities on a bunch of characters... is to go to the very first stage, 1-1. Pull out one character who can solo that fight (which doesn't take much, since it's the first stage), lift the character named Penne, and throw him into your base panel. There doesn't seem to be anything special about him, but he is a unique character who can't be captured. So, he'll actually defeat everyone in your base panel. Then just mop up with your one remaining character.
So, I've been doing the postgame grind, and now I see why it's recommended to swap those evilities around rather than toss an uncapturable enemy into your base panel. It does appear to be faster! You change a couple of evilities, change them back, heal... and you can also repeat that process to keep building up RP before pulling your gacha.
Whereas tossing an uncapturable enemy into your base panel... you have to wait for the fight to load, pull out your tosser, throw the enemy, and then sit through a fairly long animation to get your base panel rekt. Now you finish the fight and wait for your base to load... and now you can go heal up and pull your gacha. If you have "auto-heal at base" turned on at the Cheat Shop, you can instead go right back into that battle to keep building up RP, but you'll still have to return to base each time to get that healing. And then you have to sit through that base battle animation each time, as well as those loading screens.
The "failed capture" method is simpler, but it is slower. On the plus side, I found it easy to build Ao up to four stars in each class while I was at it by making her the one who tossed Penne into my base panel and then cleaned up afterwards. I used the Carnage version of 1-1 at 4*, and Ao went from 0 to 4 stars on most classes every two kills.
I don't like switching around evilities constantly, but that method does appear to be faster. But the slower, simpler method of abusing an uncapturable enemy does allow for some multitasking if you're still building yourself up for those high-end challenges.
i went from lvl 200 with 4 digit stats to lvl 9999 with 7 digit stats within 24 hours. extremely helpful guide ❤
The Higan tip is really what I needed.
Good information, FYI I dont see any value in bringing our other characters when class mastery farming unless there is an evility not included in the video. I did some tests and got the exact same mastery experience bringing everyone out and then only the character being leveled. None of the evilities being used boost class mastery experience when out on the field, prinny instructor/hat will work if not deployed. Should save a few seconds per fight.
Are you struggling with low hp enemies? do they kill you when you would have won if you could attack only once more?
You know about the Maiko's skill, Encouragement, right? You know you can only use it once per target, right?
Do you have DLC Melodia? Her "Passionnate approach" has the same effect as "Encouragement"... but it works on a unit that has already received an extra turn from the Maiko! Which mean you can get 3 action in a single turn! Do get her as one of your main support unit, she is more than worth it.
If you use the "extreme" evilties when grinding back up to level 9999 after mastering classes while in the Overlords Guard squad(25% exp, +100% stat growth) then you can get every stat except HP and SP maxed out by around level 9,200 without putting any points into them.
It's my preferred strategy, since it let's you shift to ultimate HP/SP evilties at around 8,500 and max out EVERYTHING(or at least as much as possible).
Should note that study whiz can be obtained at the Mid level evil-gatcha grade. Had to use some trial and error. If anyone knows where to get the rest of the job proficiency evilities it would be appreciated.
I'd recommend putting some percentage into Subclass Mastery. You'll level slower of course, but the subclass stars will further bump up your stats per level. Switch to another subclass when you get 3 or more stars (later on, you can get to 5 stars easily).
I'd start at Martial Trial 1, at 1 star (the lv99 Dragon's give EXP like a lv323 Dragon, while being far easier to kill). Stay there till lv500+. Then you can climb through the other Martial stages and attempt the Final Trial.
At Final Trial, I'd start at 0 or 2 stars. Bump it up 2 or 3 stars when you start one shotting the enemies. At 9 stars, you'll hit lv2000 easily.
Some of my tips if you are struggling to kill these enemies early on.
-Park Suisen next to your attacker for 100% accuracy and 100% critical rate (this prevents Nicks and Misses, stabilizing your damage, and also raises your base damage). Feel free to give him Happy Hour and Developmental Support while you're at it.
-Starting the grind off with Fuji is an option. He hits twice with Sword skills by default.
-Make a Angel Soldier, and have it cast Valkyrie Order, this let's the attacker hit twice with specials (3x if it's Fuji).
-If that's still not enough, bring a Maiko in to cast Encouragement, so you can attack again (for another 2 hits). The Maiko is just there to get over the initial bump. Ideally you'll want to clear the maps with just Valkyrie order.
-And god forbid, if THAT still ain't enough, Melodia has a buff that also let's the target act again (another 2 hits).
I remember you from your Disgaea 5 videos. Helped me out a lot back in the day ❤
Cool, I haven't made an Angel yet and I was wondering how Valkyrie Order would work on Fuji. Thanks!
Also... Melodia and a Maiko can both use their "act again" skills on the same target, giving that target three actions in a turn. A character can only benefit from Encouragement once a turn and Passion Approach once per turn, but you can use both on the same target in one turn.
And Valkyrie Order is a buff that lasts for three turns, so it will stack with those two "act again" skills to let most characters throw six specials in one turn or, apparently, let Fuji throw nine specials in one turn.
If you have any DLC characters, another easy way to farm rp is to go into a battle with any of the DLC characters and throw them into your base panel. I prefer this method over tinkering with evilities. I just made sure to put HP and SP boosting evilities on everyone for the extra boost. I could equip them all with muscles for extra HP as well but as it is, a few rounds of this gets me a s**t-ton of RP in a fairly short time.
If you don't have the DLC, you can use the very first stage, 1-1. Toss the character named Penne into your base panel. Like the DLC characters, he's a unique who can't be captured, so he'll defeat everyone in your base panel.
1-1 is probably easier than the DLC battles, since they scale to your level while 1-1 does not.
This video is exactly what I was looking for! Excellently done!
This was the one I've been waiting to see! Thank you!
Honestly I was literally looking through your channel yesterday wondering this exact thing.
I was waiting for this primal! Thank you
If you are having issues on carnage 2 Star MT5, spend the 1 million mana on opening a unique slot, then max out Female Fighter's Class first.
Assault Attack goes a super long way to help out damage for effectually free. There's a reason Primal has a pack of female fighters in his Zed squad =)
Unique Characters especially can use this, generics can just reincarnate into female fighters.
I must be missing as following the begining of the guide (the part concerning the exp). I get about 150 million exp per clear which is VERY far from the 1.9 billion you are making. Same evilities, same stage, more CP in exp and 20 stars difficulty... Did you have triple exp on or something? Even that would not explain it all...
my character is max level so any exp he would have earned has gone in the juice bar
Ah I see! Thx for the guide!
This is what I was looking for. Thank you!
OMG thanks for the info on happy song dude Totally got me going :) ive been stuck at around 5000
If yoyu could make a guide for complete beginners, like absolute beginners, I would love you so much. I just don't know what to do and feel so overwhelmed by everything and I'm only in chapter 3. I think I'm gonna quit which is a shame because the charm in this game is so appealing.
Watching basic guides for older disgaea games will help. Particularly 5 I would think. There's a lot more content for older games
What's overwhelming? Are you stuck on the chapter 3 boss? If so, send out a couple units alone, don't have everyone leave the base. They'll get smooshed, but that's fine. You want to build the rage meter so you can send in Fuji to jumbo mode. You should be okay after that
че за чуш Вы пишите !?
игра проходица за 2 часа максимум.
Баал и Супер Баал убиваюца без гринда тактикой часов за 7.
@@Bob_Pro100 wat
@@badsketch9264 I ran it through Google Translate, and I still think "wat" is the correct response. Bob asked what BadSketch was talking about, and said that he beat the game in two hours and took down Carnage Baal in seven hours. I'm not going to dispute that; it may well be possible. But I would be mighty disappointed if I bought a Disgaea game and was done with it in seven hours. I expect to get hundreds of hours of fun out of a Disgaea game.
Is there a certain way to allocate points to have 10mil base stats?
Edit: found that 1251 with just being in max overload squad was the sweet spot
thanks for the research you are mvp, you save me a lot of waste points
Did you find a way to cap base stats for Hp/Sp? Even with 1500 points + OG squad and growth evilities it' not capping....
@@Marina40499assuming you have maxed all classes, did you use a 6* class? I had no trouble with a war lady with maxed classes placed in the overlord squad. As far as evilities, I only had HP and SP growth evilities but still capped the other stats
@@Marina40499 it doesnt cap, mine max is 28m in base stats i think
@@smeartyke ahhh ok ok! Thanks
The only thing i dont undestand is how you get more base stats or whats the process of it?
So ya dont need really need to max out classes to be stat ready for Zessho, just being able to clear final trial at 20 stars will put you at that point as their stats are roughly the same, I'd also abuse the juice shop when reincarnating chars, it takes roughly 80B XP to max out a char, so take a group of max lv chars with XP evilities/setups and farm up a bunch of juice bar XP then reincarnate, equip all of your best stat growth evilities/gear then use the juice bar to level back to max(can probs also do this with overlord squad, just put the reincarnated char in it before you max their level) and now that I think about it, you should probably equip Pirilika and the rest of your team with the best HP/SP stat growth evilities when maxin their lv to further increase the RP gained from your method and they do stack with the secret training and stat growth traits from gear so if you have the Boosty weapons make sure to equip them too
Another thing to point out is that you can setup a DI to do the tower for you so that you can abuse the development support evility especially if you passed the skip stage bill and it does stack up to 9x(use humanoids when doing a tower setup as monsters cant lift so ya can only have one at most and they'd have to go last)
DI setup for tower on final trial
Attacker: target enemy forces - nearest unit - move toward target - 9x wait for other units - target enemy forces - use X skill
Tower bottom char: if attacker is present - move toward target
Booster 1: wait for other units - if tower bottom char is present - move toward the target - tower climb
Booster 2: 2x wait for other units - if tower bottom char is present - move toward the target - tower climb
Booster 3: 3x wait for other units - if tower bottom char is present - move toward the target - tower climb
Booster 4: 4x wait for other units - if tower bottom char is present - move toward the target - tower climb
and you just keep adding a wait for other units up to 8x
couldn't you set a DI to have all units move to the spot right before your killing character for the leveling portion? then as long as you have some gas saved up which you probably do or will for subsequent characters you can auto it to max xp per run with negligible time investment.
This is it! The video I’ve been waiting on!
i've set up the evility like you did in the video, put the cheat shop exp to 800% and im not getting more than 110m exp without the assembly bill triple exp
Edit:It turned out that the reason was because i wasn't max level yet.obce i hit 9999 It showed similars numbers
I just got the game two weeks ago but so far I've seen one sword/fist tech 4 on a normal blue dragon blade with like 1200 attack lol. When I found it, I first locked it ,then liked it and named it Free Heavenly =)
By far the most passed around weapon and has stalled weapon skill training so far because of it.
I used Fugi as my Zed on account his attack twice for sword skills has got me past so much. He can do (before DLC) 3 star MT final but with hasty .... dunno he's been baby sitting the other 9 the last couple days. Even nerfed Prinny Instructor is so OP
I'm now maxing out the other 9 main characters at the same time (almost done!). I abused juice to shore up the two physically weakest characters so they can use the sword and own 20 star normal Final Trial Martial no problem. Taste of Victory gets the 1 point award for best of class and does an amazing job smoothing out the kinks . I have way more than 100 runs of that stage =)
A BIG Thank You for all your d7 vids!
Sorry for the re-post but something I recall from Disgaea 5 was that In a Tower you only needed one copy of trash pickup to support the entire tower.
Fast forward to D7 and well..... I've learned something.
Since I use Suisen exclusively as a floating backpack mate if I load him up with every evility that Fugi does not have, including Common and Unique then the two of them share everything! So putting together a fast think through that was not optimized other than hasty and vital, I went from 3 star Carnage MT Final to 16 star. 17 star left 2 at supper low heath but wiped the floor with the both of us =)
Never mind, swapping Assault to the guy who does not float pushed me to 18 stars. 19 was just a bit ugly 3x sliver of life rifle cannon demons left only 34 million hp left, what if I add a third to the tower... yup 20 stars with Yasu in the middle scarping the barrel in terms of evilties lol
Can someone tell me what overachiever innocents do? are? increase atk and int? I havent seen one! and this dude had 600 000 of them :D
love this channel, helpful videos for a lot of games i play, thank u!
About the Overlord Guard, I didn't fully upgraded it, but I mastered all the classes. This is gonna mess up the grind?
Awesome video dude, hope they sort the Fuka DLC on switch, it's still missing from the season pass. Still working through the story atm not in a massive rush 😁👍
Not sure why but I am only getting 110mill exp on last stage martial. I have everyone with the same evilties using 20 star with exp cp maxed to 700
I am having the same problem. not sure where I'm going wrong
He probably has equipment on that he did not show that has the perk thing called so much exp it will also make it go up alot
In another comment thread, he said that the reason is that the character (zed) is max level (9999). This means that all of the exp that would have gone into leveling the character went directly into the juice bar. If you are still seeing the lower numbers, it is probably because the character is still leveling up.
When I did it with a level 9999 character, I got 2.9 billion exp.
@@danimei3624 Yep that was it. When i fo it on a 9999 i get 3bil. Thanks!
@@exarkun8397Happy to help!
Isn’t throwing an uncapturable unit into the base panel still much faster and easier than just switching evilties?
It seems that way to me. I've been going to stage 1-1 and throwing Penne into my base panel, since he's uncapturable. Even my gimpiest character has zero trouble soloing that stage after Penne destroys my base panel.
Another tip that might be helpful to get sword levels up- use a female samurai as the base character to start. The A rating in swords is the highest of the generic characters ive seen.
I’ve always liked the disgaea series but never got into the post games because they are always just “exploit the game by farming the same stage and then one shot the whole game after that” or are too nebulous for me to figure out how to go from the story ending to whatever is next. Here is a maybe a dumb question tho: is there a quick and easy way to tell what stat spread the game would expect you to have on a given stage especially in the post game? With the nebulous way levels and stats interact I would like to know what the minimum to tackle a stage could be so that I could do more than just one shot everything and kind of maintain the gameplay that I partake in while doing the story before the stats get absurd and enemies stop mattering.
really the only way of knowing because of different builds ect would be to try the stage, did you get destroyed? swap evilities or get more stats and try again
@@Primalliquid92 so no not really then. Unfortunate.
I used the prinny squad
And make sure hp is high enough to bomb the final stage martial and class enhancement
To master my classes might be Slower but that’s how I master my classes
still not even finished the demo yet.. .but i may purchase on switch even though steam was leaked free
For the exp without the DLC evilities it just gave me 111.000.000 exp bar juice with a 6.000 lvl, i guess something is missing
The higher number is most likely because all his units are lv 9999, so the "extra" exp goes to the juice bar. You will see once you hit max level.
@@DiegoSzad Ohhh i see, thx. Almost got frustated
Something of note, if you get a unit a skill like sword 4 from an item or the skill squad, if you spend mana to boost its power, that boost will reset if you loose the skill and later get it again.
Instructions unclear, got stuck on the Third Trial.
Edit: ended up beating it by using the grinding method described only on a 0 to 4 star First Trial. I still think these stages should be considered as part of the postgame instead of glossed over, though.
Around 6mins you mentioned happy hour, should be happy song skill.
miss spoke, my bad but yea its happy song not happy hour, think im just dreaming of the bar haha
@@Primalliquid92 haha
I haven't figured out why I don't have the overlord guards squad...
So I already did all the grind and beat carnage baal stage 4. Im mainly just curious how to get trapezohedrons/carnage trapz and max rank weapons other than the neo baal sword. I've run through arcadias, the neo baal sword and havent found anything. Could you maybe explain the proper way to farm any of these for us?
но реазон то до тзис !
I reincarnated once after mastering all classes and my stats were only at around 3-4 million each, not 10 million.
I'm still not sure exactly how you're running around with all your characters at 24 million each after Juice Bar and RP farm.
This is EXACTLY what i was looking for lol
Thanks for this , going from Baal once again 😂
Just bought after playing demo a bit. Don't see a basics video to help get into the groove better..? Anything?
Once hp is higher enough I just bomb throw the one trying to learn 2 star carnage final martial
How did he open that menu at 1:46 just standing there? I recall this being on Switch for Disgaea 6. Is this shortcut menu available on PS5 version?
It's from the Life Support Squad, when you level it up it and have a member inside it then you can use triggers for opening quick menus within the nethership along with double/triple jump in the ship
I can’t save evilities sets, every time I go into favourites it resets my evilities and it won’t let me save my current ones, any advice?
was wondering if you could tell how to get trapezohedron I figure it’s just from doing a Arcadia and stealing it but haven’t got there yet
For some reason my class proficiency gain only says 205% is my cheat shop not working at +800%
is it possible to get a monster unit the Sword skill? and how do you get that weapon skill in the first place? My first guess is Item Reincarnation but I'm not sure how it all works
I thought the evility every character needed was happy song but I keep hearing "happy hour" 😅🤷
Word to the wise (from a fool); these enemies have 100 fire resistance. Make sure that the Magma Water Wickedhancement isn't on while you do this.
@Primalliquid Can i teach Thief's (or Healer's) Evility to Ghost ? I want to have Healer with SP regenerating.
you can
I'm up to the class xp farm part but I only have like half the amount of XP Gain as you? I'm using the DLC evilities, everyones in the same squad to get that benefit, what am I missing? I just have prinny intrustor on each guy except main guy has PI, Prinny hat, Pro class changer, Career Master and Workshop Intern
is your xp char on the same squad as the prinny instructor? (XP char with class xp eviltiy in the battle, XP char that has prinny hat and 19 other with prinny instructor in the aid squad or voter squad for example should get 605% i think)
how to max unique char with reincarnation?
i have Zed with lvl 9999 and mana 999999 , what should I do everytime before i reincarnate him?
Thank you for the videos but since I'm new to the series, any help leveling units during the main campaign helps as getting to the point to do these things is still long ways off
Get into any item world. It's the best way to level up during the "tutorial" (Game story)
@@WolfKead is it normal to feel like leveling just the main dude to the point where he can solo everything, cuz that's where I'm at 😅. I'm trying to equally level the main characters like Fuji, shogun and rich girl
@@raptorate2872 if You want to get op fast, then You should just Focus on one character. Let them have all the exp and get to ridiculous levels. After that, You can level up any other character way easier than just trying to level them up all together.
@raptorate2872 that's normal but make sure to put other characters in the xp share squad with the character you are superleveling as the leadrr
Do you have evility setup for farming item world?
Thought you said the base exp % increase evilities affected skill exp and not regular exp in your other d7 guide videos
No, i said there was a translation error where ALL skills said they effect regular exp but dont as some are for class exp, some are for skill exp ect
Thank you so much you rock !
Starting to get angry, they didn't bring the Majin back
This entire time. I forgot I could turn the star levels down.
sould do a video of how to get more evility slots of it was like antthibg like Disgaea 5 lol
Can i ask why you have a different set of enemies in martialgahara? I dont have those rifle demons with bonus exp
you need to clear it once and then revisit it.
How do you choose which unit to jump out off your portal when you select "deploy all" ?
make a group for them
E-VIL-i-tees. 4 syllables. Not “evil T’s” But thanks for the vid.
Auto battle + mastering classes = huge time save.
Same for exp😂
How do you open the menu wheel? I like that feature in D6 but I don't know how to open it in D7.
You unlock it from lv 2 Life support Unit squad then hit l2/r2
you just glossed over leveling up a fresh reincarnation in the + stats squad. like how do you do that?
I was wondering the same, but then I remembered the juice bar. I just tested it and you can get the bonus stats from just levelling via the bar. And while you'd need a hell of a lot of exp extracts to take you to 9999, you won't need to use that much to get back to whatever levelling method you're using. I already had higher stats than before reincarnating at max level well before I was half max level.
@@TheUnsmiley I was wondering shouldnt be faster to prefarm xp on max character (esp. with prinny instructior/hat DLC so you get more XP since squad size is higher than 4 slot) than leveling by battle after reincarnation? (Also not sure how the XP reduction from the overloard's guard squad interacts with the juice bar)
@@minako9317 the squad penalty doesn't work on the XP juice. So you can use it till you do the final reincarnation.
Love this
Can I get the study evilities from overlord gacha?
level 50 weapon mastery isnt that hard to get for your character, takes about 30 minutes
WHen i fight Final trial it only got evil eye and zombie enemies. Am i missing something o3o?
U have to clear it once to unlock the rifle monster farm
What shared skill do you use to power level monster classes?
неработает эта херня в актуале ))
lol i no need farm itens or grinding in item word just healing in hospital
It also builds up gacha
At 10:20 or so your rising heavens isn't leveled up at all. Leveling even a few times would let you one shot without any other ally help. Even skills learned by a weapon passive are able to be leveled up
im well aware of that i was giving other examples of how to increase stats so i dont keep getting asked "how do i get more stats to clear this stage"
How do you unlock scroll making?
dark assembly
Thanks. For some reason I looked in the Dark Assembly multiple times before and didn't see it.@@Primalliquid92
Guys how do u get the gender bender evility?
Neat.
My exp bonus is at 480...
Where do you learn evility gender bender?
Ability scholars squad
How did you auto deploy unit?
The plus symbol if you are in the switch
@@xavierrobinson6146 so start button I just found out how on my own
Cheers
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This should be the first video to be put out. 🤣
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um can u post ur save if u r on ps4 in a zip file.
Primal, you keep saying "evil-ties".
But the word is "evil-i-ties".
You're eating the "i" in the middle. 🤭
Привет ,
сколькож ты дерьма показываещ которого не будет у людей играющих в ету игру.
там где у тебя 700-1000% мы даже 205% не наскребем !!
по итогу просто всираем 24/7 свое время которое можно потратить на РЕАЛ !
So I gave all the extra chars prinny hat and the class exp, however I am not seeing that bonus. I see a bonus of 205% for Job EXP.
I also had that issue. I found out the problem. If you read the effect of prinny instructor carefully, it mentions that they have to be in the same squad. So you have to put them all into the same squad in order for it to work.
@@TimothyRulez Yea, mine are all in the same squad. No idea hm.
@@helluvadetective is your xp char on the same squad as the prinny instructor? (XP char with class xp eviltiy in the battle, XP char that has prinny hat and 19 other with prinny instructor in the aid squad or voter squad for example should get 605% i think)
there is actually a much faster way to cause mass party wipes in general to heal them up afterbattle to obtain huge amounts of RP, if you throw a unit you cannot recuit into the base panel it will automatically break it,and wipe out every single unit in base, this can be done with a unit you cannot hire yet at the recuiter, OR with any bosses,in particular, dlc bosses are often very close to base and often solo and easy to kill, in doing so it will wipe out every single unit in the base, provided you have units out that can clear the level and then heal every unit wiped out at base afterwards, you will gain enourmous amounts of RP with minimal effort in setup, with or without dlc as well, as its not uncommon to get story mode bosses close to the entrance, this can be done precarnage mode or post-carnage mode for enourmous amounts of RP
as your characters grow stronger and more and more are high leveled, this will exponentially scale, though it can be tricky to actually keep up with the HL drain from so many characters being taken out, if youve put life insurance on you can get big returns thoughs im not sure the ratio or how effective this is truthfully as i have not extensively tested that out via base wipes
this can also be done with units you actually CAN recruit, but that are just much much stronger then anything you have in base, they will wipe it out though sheer stats,though if there THAT much stronger then your entire base then you might have issues killing it with whatever you have on the field lol, though the capture squad will make the base units much more powerfull for the purposes of decideing if you can catch them
this is NOT faster, firstly theres all the added loading times involved and secondly you're only recovering hp then and not SP. this is a method where quality is far better than quintity