I was surprised that u chose to dedicate a whole video to one of the most minor characters yet amazed that u could make his presence seem so major and important ! I think the significance of his character does lie in the core themes of the series , confronting your past and changing as long as ur alive. I remember being a bit disappointed at the end of the manga when the confrontation between him and ishida wasnt shown , I really thought this guy deserved some spotlight and wanted to know if he ever felt regret or remorse over the past. But at the same time , it did end the manga with a positive message telling the audience to open their own doors so hopefully ishidas courage does lead to him and kazuki coming to terms in some way , friends or not. Congratulations btw I hope ur channel continues to grow :-)
He's not minor character at all. He is the main reason why Ishida goes through all the suffering and trauma, but also the first one who made Ishida realized that bullying is wrong and how bad it felt of being bullied. This character also has many mystery left for the audience to interpreted in the manga version. (Anime once again cut most of his screen time)
Totally the same way. Man sometimes that manga ending, I really do wonder what happens next the moment Ishida alongside Nishimiya went through those doors afterwards?
i personally love shimada so the insight in this video was really nice and made me feel happy that he's paying attention to one of the minor characters in the show
One thing that I have noticed is that shimada has very blank eyes, like he is always bored, and whenever he smiles, his eye's don't change. A lot of people say that smiling isn't genuine unless it's also in the eyes. By giving shimada those blank eyes, I think the director/manga artist is trying to show that shimada is not happy with his life. By hinting that he might be going through a difficult time, without going much into it, the film/manga seems more realistic. Everybody has their own lives, and it is very unrealistic that somebody would know exactly what is going on with the lives of all the people around them, so I think that shimada's character is very important in in making this film more believable.
@hotmessinmy uterus yea but think of this moive realistically, what she could be true or is true...to me the movie was so realistic for me cause that's how i got thru. Tho i know this not important but i never necessarily bullied anyone but Ishida and i have the same role. I just hope i don't end up died lol?
Interesting! I remember when he was younger, he always wore sweatshirts that were way too big for him and his sleeves ran past his hands and he always had hands on his face as if he was bored
yeah based on the video it seems he had strict parents and were kinda hard on him wanting to have a "talented/successful" son and kinda forced him to mature faster or wouldn't surprise me if his parents abuse him. anime usually make it obvious if a character is being abused but with the more realistic way the series is handling things there aren't always obvious signs or a way to tell if someone is being abused unless its like over the top kind
Teacher: You deserve it Ishida. Characters: grow up. Teacher: Oh, it's Shoko's family's fault, they abused her disability so she can go to different schools, Ishida you're fine, you were just joking around lololol- Red haired, thick eyebrows: *splashes water on teacher* Teacher: get outta my face
@@popbottles229 He shouldn’t have had her read out loud in the first place. Ignoring the problem and pretending she’s not deaf only brings more attention to it. The school administration was infuriatingly incompetent.
Ishida was forced to accept he was wrong. No one turned on Shimada though, this means that he would have to look critically at himself and decide for himself that he was wrong. And this is a hard thing to do. Ishida was forced to give everything up. Shimada didn't want to do that himself and instead denied he bullied Ishida. Most would do the same. Time passes and Shimada feels too guilty to be Ishida's friend, so he helps out in secret because he feels as though he doesn't deserve recognition. When Ishida meets Shimada after the final chapter it'll be by Ishida's choice, not Ueno's. I like to think this will allow them to reconcile without it feeling forced
I think the friendship thing is already too late , but that doesn't mean they have to be mean towards each other for the rest of their lives. Shimida knows what he did and stays away from Ishida which is probably for the best because they both have different lives that neither is apart of which happens to people that were once close.
I’m pretty sure Shimada and the other person was following Ishida right before he save Shouko because they thought it would be funny according to the fandom
That was a lie actually since they were making music of a movie ishida and his friends are making in the manga I think they finish the music and for whatever reason want to show it to ishida so follow him to give him their Email first making me think they tried to apologize to Ishida and reconcile but didn’t have a chance .
His personality is like "I'm your friend, but i don't include myself on your own actions towards other people". You can say he always stays on the green zone, he don't give a fuck about others. A cunning and sly person he is.
He was so annoying when he started bully Ishida, he was trying to comfort himself by doing all those things to Ishida and telling himself it's ok if I do this
Shimada was a character that caught my attention in the beginning. Once he disconnected with Ishida i was kinda waiting the whole time for him to "redeem himself" alongside the other characters. Given that he never did, he became a character that i just skimmed by. I didnt even realise it was them two who saved hi until reading the manga...still have mixed feelings for him all and all But somewhere might be some sort if respect??
I actually liked how they did that, I thought it was super relatable that they just didn’t become friends anymore. Kazuki is a childhood friend that stopped being friends. Which is something that a lot of kids can relate to. You don’t always have an happy ending or get to redeem yourself as you may be a antihero in another story you can be the main character in yours. Kazuki drifted apart and telling people or kids that you will always be friends in the end is sending them in the wrong direction. Sorry I posted this 5 years too late
@@cheese4599 Well I think your wrong they easily could have made one freinds stay and the other not for example the other fat one whose name I don't know
While both the manga and anime doesn't show case him a lot, the manga makes it an effort where despite the fact that he doesn't appear, he has a huge impact on the psychology of Shouya for a good part of the series.
I am glad that he was against the bullying that ishida has done but I don't think I can like his character much because of the fact that he turned into everything he was seemingly against. He didn't like the bullying done but he bullied the bully. He was no better. He also betrayed his friend. They were friends, he should of at least help point ishida to the right path. I never liked that part and it angers me personally. That's pretty much all I think of him since I don't know much else of him other than that part. I guess I like that he matured more so he was still happy for his 'old friend' when he sees him happy.
Sena He was against the bullying, but he never tried to stop the bullying or do anything about it. He isn’t innocent. He just stood there and watched as Shoya bullied Shoko.
Sena Yea, that could be. I didnt like him because he basically put all the blame on Shoya without taking the blame himself. At least Shoya tried to make things right and take responsibility.
MrTailsprower7 at least he didn’t act like a saint or try to play the victim like kawai. Also I don’t think he actually did anything. Just watched. Ishida tried to spread the blame back to all the other classmates as well.
If I remember correctly, I didn't even expect to see him again the second half of the movie. Who knew there were all these underlying possibilities to go along with it?
Hey do you know why a lot of the fan base thinks he is trans? I literally am confused why everyone on tumblr thinks he is. Not that there is anything g wrong with being trans.
Armonie Reed I think I remember seeing something about that cuz when Hirose texted Ueno he had his GF as his wallpaper, and something about Shimada’s name in the convo made them think that was him. It was stupid assumption someone made midway through the story, or perhaps just from a single page, & there’s no truth to it. Hirose is shown with that girl years later along with a kid, and Shimada is shown also. Haha.
Why not?he is not a jerk i think, he is against at ichida, i mean yes he is a bullybut not bully as ichida, also yes his character design is the best, j would ship him to ueno, ueno is oneof the worst characters though she is cute like kawai
I think its very sweet how that moment when Shimada and Hirose saved Ishida pulling him out the water kind of parallels when they were kids, to the moment they thew him in the water as they cut ties from each other.
@@debjr45 the comment went over your head.. the point is they saved him from drowning in the water despite their childhood history together and that's sweet, idiot
it's the irony in how they onced pushed him in some water as children Ishida being bullied, to then those same bullies saving his life pulling out from the water drowning later in the years.
What a curious statement: "Ueno, I don't want such unnecessary kindness." He recognizes it as "kindness" to bring Shoya to him. This rules out him feeling indifferent or positively about his behavior toward Shoya and almost necessarily suggests a feeling of well deserved guilt on his part. He is not angry at being confronted with someone he hurt, but it's "unnecessary". If the emotions were too overwhelming he would be angry or scared, but this is a calm reaction, though not indifferent. I would bet a lot of thought has been flooded into Shimada view of what he did to Shoya. There is an acceptance of his responsibility as such, "kindness" trying to mend or provide closure to heal was not needed. Shimada has chosen that guilt is the price he can pay for it. Another interesting choice (though mostly in the anime) is the choice or clothing they give Shimada in his younger various. When he is produce criticism on Shoya, he gads his hands behind the along sleeves and covers his mouth. This piece of art understand communication and makes an effort to hid his when he acts this way. Shimada seems- to me- like a boy who can compartmentalize very efficiently. He is very internal as a character, which would explain why there is so much mystery to him. He has managed his own feeling regarding what he did and the choices he made. To be clear he hasn't ignored it, I would think he accepted it and resolves to suffer and live with it. The stoics would be proud
Man, it just hit me just how much Shimada could've actually meant by saying 'Do you really want to be acknowledged by those pieces of sh*t?'. It feels like he meant so much more, as if he actually meant to say these exact words to Ishida before, even when he himself was bullying Ishida. I feel like Shimada wanted Ishida to grow, the same way his teacher did. In a very fked up way. I feel he wanted Ishida to stop doing stuff to be acknowledged by his peers. Ishida deeply cares what others think of him, this is proven multiple times. From how he thinks Nishimiya sees him to him being afraid of his friends finding out he bullied Nishimiya. Let's not forget how the contest of courage is just to prove yourself to others by doing dumb sht. We can see Shimada was the fastest to mature of the three so I can see him wanting to teach Ishida a lesson, maybe at the beginning making Ishida grow wasn't his true objective and he was just a jackass. But him secretly helping Ishida seemed like his own way of redeeming his actions, but he was doing it for himself. Not to prove himself to anybody. He's not the kid trying to look like the hero to get recognition for it. But that's maybe me thinking too much of it lol
Could that be the Mangaka's way of saying Shimada's a POS? the directors they're talking about are POSes for not acknowledging, and Shimada apparently will never apologize (he may not even admit to himself) he too was a bully. Not only will Shimada never acknowledge, this may be an admission he never, ever will. This little scene is just the Mangaka saying Shimada will never acknowledge. Unlike Kawai who knows eff-dup stuff happened and tries to run from it, Shimada may be the most pathetic in never admitting anything - he abused Shoko and Shoya. (I'm movie-only so far).
Great video: Here's my thoughts on Shimada. 1. He gives in to peer pressure and since Ishida seemed 'cool' and 'fun' he was scared to speak out and lose his friend or because Ishida has a very domineering personality as a kid. 2. It became easy to betray Ishida because he didn't wanna get in trouble by parents/authorities- his parents probably saw him as a bad influence + Shimada probably started to get bored of Ishida's childish games. ----He bullies Ishida because he's angry that Ishida tried to rat them out even if he DID try to tell him not to, plus he is a kid and could be a hypocrite thinking his involvement in the bullying is not as bad as what Ishida did, so he doesn't deserve the same punishment. ----Now that Ishida is disliked by the teacher and class, Shimada is no longer afraid of peer pressure and can be himself more around Ishida because Ishida will always get blamed because he's a 'bully.' So he takes out his anger onto him. Maybe he felt some resentment towards Ishida when Ishida forced him to do wreckless and dumb things. 3. He seems depressed and guilty for what he did in his past and probably is bored with life. 4. He doesn't wanna be friends with Ishida and probably still thinks he's lame deep down, but he feels really guilty for what he did and if he did want to be friends with the new Ishida he's heard about from Ueno and seen; he probably doesn't think he deserves it and probably doesn't think Ishida would forgive him. He has too much pride to apologize to Shimada.
While Shimadas hypocrisy and actions as a child are despicable I think that goes to show that he's one of the most "real" characters. I'd say he is actually closest to Mashiba in character. Mashiba sees something he considers wrong and doesn't try to understand but simply makes a judgement call. Meanwhile Shimada sees something he considers wrong (and is too opportunistic to stop it) but then goes "It's okay todo that thing I consider wrong to the person that did it first." Not trying to turn this into a political discussion but merely choosing an example: It's a little like what we see both the left and the right ends of the political spectrum corrently doing. Both sides point at the other end and go "These people are so horrible for reasons x and y. You don't do these kinds of things." but then continue to do exactly those things towards those enemies due to a sense of them "deserving it". It's a flaw many humans have to disregard the rules they expect another person to follow once they have deemed that person as being terrible so it makes sense that Shimada would act in a similar way. We like to think we're all nice and noble but in reality I think while Shimada, Mashiba and Sahara are the closest to what one could consider "the average human" in this movie. Not as openly hostile as Ueno, not as narcissistic as Kawai and not as self-deprecating as Shoko or Ishida but somewhere in the middle. Either by putting on a facade of fake courage while being afraid to have and voice an opinion (Sahara), considering themselves to be on a higher moral ground than "them" and thus feeling free to judge and punish others (Mashiba) or thinking that treating others wrong because they treat people wrong is "fair" and "just deserts" (Shimada). They all don't act out of evil intent but find different ways to escape any kind of responsibility which is something humans very commonly do.
Shimada honestly reminds me of an old school acquaintance from my youth (between elementary and junior high) VERY MUCH. That person even had the same hair color and pale complexion. Crazy!! It even made me cringe seeing how perfectly this character resembles that person in personality and in the things he did. Love your analysis. It helped me understand that person from my past as well, and forgive them a bit more, even though I will never see them again.
Another great video! First off, your thumbnail on this one is fantastic. Second, your focus on this character is fantastic, as this character, though minor, is incredibly important in the overall plot of the story, and his inclusion brings to light so many of the manga's central themes (which you touch on here). You say a lot of things that have been on my mind ever since I read the manga. And I find your speculation on the character's motives really interesting. I think we, as the readers and viewers, are supposed to do that with his character, as that is exactly what Ishida has to do. Thanks for the great video! And great choice using that piece from Angel Beats in the background (at least I think that's where it's from) ^_^
Dang, pointing out the Thumbnail & Angel Beats music in the same comment??? Someone sure pays attention. Haha. Glad you liked he video man, and it's pretty reassuring when you say these things were on your mind when you read it too! 😁👍🏻
i have a feeling that shimada has a really strict family background so he's the kind of kid who has no freedom and is forced into focusing soley on academics and music and basically exceling his life like a good ol asian kid. so he is always so lifeless (look at the boys blank eyes man) and detached from everyone (the way he looks away from others and his cold tone and that scene where he looks at hirose and ishida play while doing nothing) but i feel like he actually really wants to reach out and have fun like a normal kid. i think maybe his parents told him not to mix with hirose and ishida, maintain a distance and not to have "too much fun" so he can focus on school, which made him unable to connect well with others haing this huge expectation weighing him down and the overwhelming dilemma of listening to his parents or his heart. which is also why i think it would make him feel kind of oppressed by his parents, making him vent this frustration, or rather he tries to feel like he is in control over his life by bullying ishida and being the "ringleader", being the dominant cool kid coz he could never assert any authority at home or have a say over his life. plus he was quick to protect his reputation and stay out of trouble so as to maintain a perfect track record by pushing the blame of bullying nishimiya to ishida, probably for his parents and what they have warned him to do (excel and be a star student blahblah) im pretty sure ishida is smart enough to acknowledge all of his messed up actions and motivations, or at least when he grew up he did, and this guilt and self awareness is what makes him inclined to make it up to ishida (saving his life) but not having the balls to do so explicitly (telling ueno not to tell ishida he saved him) because for one, he might not forgive him for such malice, but two, i think he lacks the social skills to do so and felt like the old him is still trying to distance the self away from people, like ishida. (three, this one might be far fetched but, i think this past of his was never revealed to anyone, so nobody truly understands who ishida is and why he did what he did. on the surface it would be incredibly hard to forgive somebody like him because nobody saw the hardships he went through or bothered to empathise with this big bully. which is why in some ways i see great similarities between him and ishida, both bullies whom nobody truly tried to empathise with and understand. so anyways i think this is also why shimada is not inclined to approach ishida as he thinks he won't understand) shimada ultimately probably wants to make amends and have friends but he just can't reach out so when given the opportunity to help ishida he does so without hesitating but never confronts him directly. i think shimada is a really complex character that, while some/many might disagree, is sympathetic and relatable. the adverse and far-reaching effects of family imposed pressures is criminally not-talked-about and how it can manifest into a monster who lives the rest of his life in guilt, shame, and lack of true friends who can understand him and whom he can reach out to. this is what i absolutely adore koe no katachi for -- their characters are SO REAL you empathise and feel for them so much and so it really does change your perspective and teach you invaluable life lessons. thanks for coming to my ted talk lol.
allow me to rant more LOL: i feel so upset? or like disappointed when people FAIL TO SEE THE POINT AND REAL VALUE of this beautiful film and comment shit like oh they are tokenising disabled people and encouragin people to pity these people by presenting nishimiya as a damsel in distress plus how every other character is one dimensional motivated by shallow intentions like seriously? were you watching the film with your eyes and EARS AND HEART closed? clearly (or so i thought), the main character is ishida and not exactly nishimiya, so if you were gonna criticise the film for not focusing on nishimiya and her story enough then hunny youre sorely missing the point. koe no katachi is focusing on the perspective of the bully and for god sake even so, nishimiya is portrayed as somebody who has lost their sense of self, who does everything to please others even though she struggles with mental issues herself, and bringing to light how people dont notice these things and just treat try to care for them without actually empathising so i dont see how the film makers were just capitalising on diabilities to elicit our pity for the disabled (in fact it might even be trying to make us pity the bully!! which i feel is such an interesting take considering how every other media post only focuses on the victim) because if you seriously think it is so then i sincerely feel imho that you are the one who is misinterpreting this masterpiece. wowe i feel like such a karen right now AAAAAAAAA
Wow, I've only seen the movie and never read the manga, but this really changed how I felt about Shimada. It really shows how you shouldn't judge someone until you get to know them better and see what kind of person they are. I think if he and Hirose really hated Shouya, they would have just let him die. I hope you'll analyze Yuzuru next, as I've heard she was picked on just because her sister was deaf and I only know what I've seen in the movie, and it's obvious the manga fleshed out the characters much more than the movie. Awesome video, dude! (Also, if you want to branch out and analyze characters from other anime, may I recommend a few? Satoko Houjou from Higurashi no naku koro ni, or Madoka Koumoto from A Bridge to The Starry Skies, or Yuki Kanno from Corpse Party)
Sky's Kokoro I haven't seen Corpse Party or All of Higurashi (unfortunately. 😅), but I am always willing to listen to suggestions, as I definitely plan on doing characters from other series as well! 😁😊 (Also, I've been planning on doing Yuzuru for a while, it'll just take a while. She's one of my faves. Haha.)
I found it cruel when the text message said "Ishida fell. lol" in Chapter 50. It shows that Kazuki Shimada have no compassion towards Shouya Ishida or how Ishida's family feel. Ishida has a family. Does Shimada think about that?
@@400Awesomo it is, but I know you might be like how can you tell, but for me I personally felt that when you see Hirose 2 years later when hes still with his GF and has a daughter, I sense that he had matured compare to when he was 17-18 and said those messages to Ueno. Personally I’d love to see more of these 2 and A further conclusion to the ending
@@400Awesomo yeah I agree, also in your original comment you said “Shimada shows no care in how ishidas family feels” despite you got it mixed up with Hirose, I wanted to say that this is my own interpretation, but what if Hirose thought back on how ishidas mother felt when she found out her son is in a near death situation and he obviously doesn’t want his daughter to be in that same position.
King Henry VIII Tudor It’s awful yet so dam real it’s scary I was bullied, kids threw my pencil case around the class, dump it in the trash or on my desk, told me to go end it all and my teacher who is in the same room Wich was tiny never said anything Just like here
He literally has no light in his eyes ._. That's the sign of a pure sociopath. And you dense bitches find a soulless character like him to be "hot"? Gross
You sem to have a rather nihilistic view on what it means to sympathize with a character and don't seem to have the human capability of knowing what it means to have an intangible emotional relationship with a character you admire. In a way I can't help but pity you. Being able to read or watch a form of media where the characterization feels so realistic to you that you can feel touched by their actions on an intangible facet is probably one of the greatest feelings one could get to experience in our world. If more people treated characters the same way as you and OP did, no one would truly ever have a real appreciation for literature nor art and many forms of creativity would be taken for granted. An antagonist who's been shown to be heartless and have no redeeming qualities about them would, ordinarily, be treated as such. A simple antagonist who stands as nothing more but a grating obstacle to the protagonist in the show. OP doesn't even bother to explain something meaningful for why she feels he could be redeemed enough in her eyes for him to be seen in a way as being a favorable character. She simply affections him for the mere fact that he has a good looking face in character design. That is the lowest form of a shallow personality I can say I've ever come across in my life, and is rather juvenile and immature way of thinking. But hey, obviously she didn't gain any form of depth from the show from how she makes herself out to be. Instead she probably enjoyed it for the "shiny colors" and "Cute boys" like any other brainless shallow bimbo like her could only ever gain from anything they ever watch.
+Fuzzy Wuzzy Hm.. Well it seems like you've yet to mature and learn to be receptive towards hearing anything that doesn't necessarily pertain to _your_ beliefs. Until you gain the maturity to see beyond your own view point and look outside of your own bubble of ignorance; you'll never be able to accept progress or change in your life. Talking anymore with you will just be a complete waste of time and energy. Have a good day
I am certainly not a huge fan of Shimada & Hirose, in fact I sort of dislike them more than Kawai and that's saying something, but at the same time, they do seem to have something of a, I guess redeeming factor to them if that makes sense. Nonetheless they are intriguing characters that highly influenced the series. Great video, anything else coming up?
Hirose is literally a background character in every sense of the word, he does nothing likable or unlikable As for Shimada though... I hate him, though I do like the irony that he saved Shoya from drowning/dying
Kazuki was always one of my favorite characters in the movie. Sure he was a scumbag but something about him made me really like his personality and dead eyes a lot. And it made me really happy to know he was the one to save Shoya when he fell. I watched the movie again with my mom the other day and when I explained to her that he was the one to save Shoya when he fell, she said "a friend always remains a friend no matter what goes on between them. Deep in the heart they will always regret their actions and would still help you no matter what."
I still have a grudge against Kazuki even after rewatching Koe No Katachi... He's exactly like the type of "friends" I used to have These "friends" turned on me and abandoned me just like Kazuki :(
It's hard but I try to ask Jesus to bless my former friends and enemies so they can repent and do good from now on, and for me to heal so I can move on with my life, cause hating them will only keep them in my head rent free. I want them to get to Heaven, but I don't wanna think about 'em anymore. I forgive them, and wish them well.
Am I the only one who gets the feeling that Shimada is motivated by a jealousy for Shouya stemming from a crush he has on Ueno whom his character is meant to be a foil to? The manga already established that he had an interest in girls durring the 6th grade and only joined in the bullying of Shouko despite initially being against it when he saw Ueno doing so. This would imply that like Ueno he only started bullying Shouko to impress his crush, but unlike her, Shimada seemed to resent what he was doing as indicated by his occasional objections to the bullying. This would explain why he so quickly turned on Shouya when Shouya took the blame for what they did to Shouko and become a ring leader in tormenting him. It was meant as retaliation. Shimada resented himself for had he felt he was forced to do to Shouko, but liking Ueno too much to blame her, chose to blame Shouya instead for pushing both himself and Ueno into bullying Shouko. Is in line with what Ueno said about Shimada resenting Shouya for causing the trouble with Shouko and trying to drag others into it. The fact that Shimada took issue with Shouya trying to spread the blame is particularly interesting as if I remember correctly, Ueno was one of the few Shouya mentions by name when saying that others where responsible too for what happened to Shouko. This seems to suggest Shimada took issue with Shouya trying to get Ueno in trouble. This would explain why Shimada was so insistent in getting Ueno to join in on the torment of Shouya, not only was he trying to make her turn on her crush and come over to his side, Shimada was also in his mind helping Ueno to get revenge on Shouya for making her do the things she did and try to get her in trouble for it. Ironically, like how Ueno's aggression towards Shouko for Shouya's sake would only end up hurting Shouya, Shimada's well intentioned actions would only cause Ueno to feel guilty for what happened to Shouya...
Like Ueno, it also seems that Shimada's crush did not go away with age as he is resistant to reconciliation with Shouya when Ueno presented him with the chance to do so much like the way Ueno refused to reconcile with Shouko due to their romantic rivalry. This would also explain why he helped with the musical accepts or Shouya's movie despite his hostility towards him. Remember it was Ueno's idea to involve Shimada in the movie, his participation with the movie along with his later following and saving of Shouya was all done for Ueno. I do not believe Hirose and Shimada were following Shouya on the night he fell to reconcile with him as it would make no sense why they did try again to reconcile with Shouya after they saved his life...
Remember that Ueno was the only one who tried to contact Shouya after he told everyone off at the bridge but to no avail. I believe Shimada followed Shouya to confront him about insulting Ueno and giving her cold feet after he found out what happened, and that Shimada brought Hirose along as back up in case things got physical. I also believe that Shimada's decision to rescue Shouya was for Ueno as well as he understood how much Shouya meant to her and the pain it would cause her to lose him. This is why Shimada is not shown visiting Shouya and goes out of his way to prevent Shouya from trying to contact him later over the save by telling other to keep it a secret that it was him who saves Shouya. He clearly still resents Shouya but is willing to save his romantic rival for the sake of his crush.
Shimada interests me, I’ll say that. I think much of what you put forth in this video rings very true - I just wish we would’ve been allowed to see more of him in the film (I’ll probably read the manga, too, but as of right now, I haven’t yet). I think when it comes to bullying, and perhaps especially when the culprits are children, there are some very complex issues to consider. Having not yet reached emotional maturity and being at an age where your own identity begins to truly take shape, Shimada turning his back on Ishida - who was already falling behind in terms of maturity and being a stereotypical “bad boy” in 6th grade - is strangely understandable. Don’t get me wrong - I find it absolutely despicable, but these are boys on the cusp of puberty. I think, at that age, you do and say things in a flurry of desperation and fear and a confusing concoction on emotions and ideas that are difficult for you to grasp. And let’s not forget that this was very true for Ishida himself, when he initially started bullying Nishimiya. I don’t want it to come across as though I’m excusing their behaviour in any way, but I can at least to a certain degree understand what a confusing and frightening thing it is to be at an age where other people’s opinions, having a high status and being accepted by those around you suddenly outweighs almost everything else. I think it makes it so that you can only see what you personally have to ‘gain’ by bullying someone, while remaining more or less blind to the actual consequences of it. In the case of Shimada, perhaps Ishida’s fall from grace was his opportunity to well and truly cut ties with Ishida, elevating himself in the process. Again, not fully comprehending the consequences such behaviour might lead to - until he, as a high schooler, was able to look back and understand, to some degree, that what he’d done was reprehensible, but having already drifted far enough from Ishida to be able to mend it properly. Those are just some of my thoughts. Bullying is such a complex matter. As is often the case when children try to figure out how to fit into this world. I’m just glad Ishida went to such lengths to redeem himself, truly understanding and readily admitting that he’d been wrong in 6th grade, and I can only hope that Shimada does the same.
Some people seem to hate him but I thought Shimada was one of the most mature children in the whole show. When he was hanging out with Shimada and Hirose, he was the one who suggested that maybe it was time to stop breaking the rules and be serious about school, he would also suggest that Ishida was taking his bullying a bit too far. Without Shimada I don't think Ishida sees the errors of his way because Shimada was the one who started bullying Ishida, he's the reason he got isolated from the rest of the students. He's the one who gave Ishida a taste of his own medicine. You could say Shimada did 2 things wrong. 1) Bully Ishada 2) Not give Ishada an opportunity to prove he changed. The reason Shimada started bullying Ishida is because he was bullying kids and he is the main reason Shouko transferred schools. When they meet again Shimada doesn't change his attitude, I would say when Shouko left their school, Shimada decided not to hang out with him ever again.
Another amazing character analysis Anime Dude!~ I'm really glad you made character analysis of Shimada. When watching throughout the movie he was completely mysterious, there wasn't much like shown his importance to Ishida's past and present of his life. It made myself hard to analyze him on the movie and yet even at the manga he was still mysterious but he was shown his importance of being a side character of the series. Overall I have seen again many people like him in real life, plus I may be part of it. He shows that he is a friend and will do somethings that are with you, but the actions are you to be blamed off not *us*. Through your analysis its noticeable that he may regret for bullying, blaming and leaving him off after that day happened. He may not say truly he is sorry but he shows that he is sorry by secretly hiding it with actions. He may regret the past yet he still had the time to change the future coming through to him. And also I'm also happy that you got 1,000 subscribers and that means a lot to us. Hoping till the end that you're the best (for me) to analyze characters. :D
Honestly, koe no Katachi for me is the story of a young, honest, but misguided boy, who was forced to face the consequences of his actions in the most public and humiliating fashion, getting utterly defeated and destroyed emotionally and socially, and then rebuilding himself to be able to face the problems that he created head on, and with all of the sincerity that he can muster. Along with all of his past friends who fail to do so at every turn, and will probably even fail to do so until their time on this mortal plane is at an end.
Shimada is similar to Sahara, he wants to be part of the group so he suppresses his true self to fit in. That means that he goes along with whatever Ishidia wants, because he wants Ishidia's approval and to be part of the group. But he grows resentful of this as his suggestions are constantly shot down by Ishidia, that's why when the class turns against Ishidia, he takes that opportunity to be the "leader" and then exacts revenge on Ishida. That's why he tells Ueno to mind her business, why he hides the fact that he saved Ishidia, and his statement about the Judges. His and Hirose's character growth about being assertive, saying what they truly feel instead of just following along. There was an imbalance of power in the relationship between the three of them, which is what caused their group to split up, because they were less like friends and more like a boss and his two followers.
Glad to get another episode of this series, the way you reflect on the characters really adds to the experience! i'd be happy to watch something similar from you using other movies or series, also because i'm trying to get this movie out of my head (it's almost like i get depression after watching/reading these "open ended" dramas). Congrats on 1k subs btw!
To be honest, I legitimately disliked Shimada and Hirose in the movie. I always felt like they were toying with Ishida from the very beginning for some reason. That was just the impression I got even though that probably wasn't the case and they may have really thought of him as a friend. I wish they had hinted at Shimada's cram school problems in the movie or even show the three drifting apart a little. Other then that I really enjoyed the movie and related to the main character on so many levels. A lot of people may think that the movie's portrayal of bullying and anxiety are exaggerated but as someone who has experienced it I can say that it hits very close to home for me. I went to a different middle school then my elementary school friends and met them all again in high school. They had changed so much... they didn't seem like the same bunch of lovable nerds I had grown so close to in elementary. In terms of appearances and interests I hadn't changed that much. I was still the same scrawny art and videogame loving geek I've always been, just a lot less hyper. But they all seemed so..... girly. Which isn't a bad thing but different from how I remembered them so I was very nervous about talking to them. I hope I'll summon up the courage to say hi to them before I graduate. Even if they aren't the same kids I knew when I was little, I'm still grateful for all the fun times we shared and all the stupid things we used to do and I only hope for the best for their futures. I just wish there was a way I could let them know that. Anyways.... that went on way longer than I expected. It was good to get that off my chest though and thanks for reading all that if you did! The video was great and I look forward to more quality anime related content from you in the future. ;)
Ishida's teacher turned him into a scapegoat for bullying Nishiyima. Shimada and Hirose would often beat up Shoya for bullying Nishiyima. I think this guy was the antagonist all along..
For all the people saying Shouya deserved to be bullied because he was a bully , STOP. First off , As someone who has been bullied literally from preschool all the way past high , I would NEVER wish the same on even the worst of my bullies. To be bullied is absolutely one of the worst feelings to go through and we were kids , kids did horrible things to each other because they don’t understand the scale of their actions, yes they should be punished but not in that way. For those who condone bullying when it’s happening to a bullying , you are just as bad. Bullying is not ok , no matter who it is. You should be ashamed for even saying that , there is no special circumstances. I’m disgusted by how many people are saying they are glad he went through that , he was a child. Him being bullied isn’t going to change what happen, it just means more people hurt. As they say , an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
I agree with you to some extent, but you could also argue that without Shouya being bullied he would still be the same person he was, and would never attempt to redeem his actions. If he never experienced that, the entire plot of Koe No Karachi wouldn’t have happened. Also haven’t you ever heard of karma, whatever you put out, comes back to you. You reap what you sow, if you’re going to be mean, and act like a jerk, you have to expect that it’s going to come back to you at one point.
You do a fantastic job. This character, gosh hard to say - when he said "you have got to learn to mind your own business" - I'm trying to figure out where that came from. It could be a reflection on him; as he was always on the periphery zipping in to be the bug in people's ear on commenting on his perception to see how it plays out. It might suggest this practice sort of leaves the wreckage of things to others while leaving him unscathed when things played out badly. He knew when to take advantage of "the goings on" and when to toss people under the bus to save themselves. I'm not certain at all either.
At first when I didn't knew Shimada was a bully I was like I think he's my favorite character but when I saw he bullied ishida ....not that favorite character ...
its not the fact he stopped being friends shoya, but it was the fact he would continuously talk shi behind his back and made things worse for him. and he was a bystander, which is almost just as bad as the one bullying
Congratulations on 1K!!! And I only watched the movie and I loved it so much! I've really wanted to read the manga. So I didn't get to understand much of Shimada, other than him being an old friend that went sour. Thank you for making another amazing video!!
Wow that made me see the characters in a new light. I loved the manga and the movie after but your videos were really awesome for putting it all together. Thanks!
I think these characters are very human and it's easy to forget how young they are. They're in middle school when the film starts so they're still developing mentally. They're children so when they encounter someone who they view as a hindrance to their life of course they're going to react as children. There's multiple sides to each of these characters. I think Shoko was the one who matured the fastest because she decided to keep forgiving everyone and trying to see things from their perspective instead of just reacting with anger. I think Shimada just reacted like most middle schoolers would. Very immature and not willing to own up to his own mistakes but the film hints at the fact that he's grown from that experience and became a better person.
what i saw in shimada's character is: he had a strong set of rules to follow.like burdens on his shoulders unlike ishida. amazed by the amount of freedom ishida has. ishida is the leader for this amount of openness and for some characteristics he has as a result of that. shimada has inner envy within.wishes to be as free.as ignorant sometimes. he knows these things are wrong for he had a better education(may be family) still joins in bullying and enjoying it. he had took the lead once they covered the fact that shimada hirose and the rest participated in bullying nishimya. that was his chance to take the lead. he cares of his future and has a dream to follow. he has to keep his reputation. so he buries 'literally'any trace of the foul past including ishida as a whole if it needs. but he has this child within. missing the limited freedom he used to have. and it-in his mind- maybe is linked to ishida.
I feel the same that, even though the film was 2 hours long, it still left out quite a lot. It could easily have been 3 hours and not been boring. I personally wanted to see more of Shoko's life beyond her suicide attempt. She apologises to Shoya for the pain she 'caused' but promises to help him live and then she's just, like, magically fine? I think it would have been more wholesome to see both Shoko and Shoya's path to accepting themselves and allowing themselves to be happy, not just Shoya. It was a great ending and redemption story, but I still think Shoko's story felt unfinished. She was such an integral part in the story but we never really see her as a main character, she's almost a plot device for a lot of the film. I'd have appreciated an extra 15/20 minutes of Shoya being helped by Shoko to learn to love herself and not see herself as an inconvenience and to enjoy being part of a friendship group. I appreciate that it happens, she seems happy enough at the end, but how did that happen? She went from suicidal to a social butterfly off-screen (she's part of the friendship group and going out with them and it seems perfectly natural for her to be there) and I'd love to know how that process happened. I get it's mainly Shoya's 'redemption arc' but still, it's weird to have two characters attempt suicide, both survive and then only show us how one of them turned it around. I'm sure it's more detailed in the manga that I do not have the time or patience to read, but it would have been nice to see Shoko's life going from suicide to acceptance and happiness. It just kinda happens in the background.
Yeah I would love to see Nishimiya doing well. She was such an unpenetrable character, the fact she was deaf isolated her even more. Even her sister didn´t quite uderstand what she thinks, and Ueno hated her (among other things) for never being honest and hiding behind a fake smile. I really wanted to give her a hug and I would love to see her being able to open to people, love herself and stand up for herself. And I would love to watch that process. The anime is much more bitter because we didn´t have a chance to watch this I know Ueno was a bitch, but Nishimiya needed someone like her in her life, just a little less bitchy, or perhaps in other stage of her life
Congratulations on 1000 subs! You deserve it. Once again the thoroughness and uniqueness shows. Can't wait to see what's next! As for what I think about Shimada, I honestly feel like he followed the bullying because he didn't know how to walk away. Then he distances himself when he saw an opportunity. I don't feel like there needs to be reconciliation between the two because there is bad blood now. Not everything that is broken needs to be fixed, akd that's okay. But they don't have to be hostile towards each other. The texts where he put a "lol" in feel like he was just reinforcing how he wants to remain distant from Ishida. That also explains why he didn't want Ishida to know about Shimada saving him. He probably doesn't feel comfortable being close with him after all that's happened, and sees how Ishida feels the same way.
wolfgirlholo62 The texts with the Lol were Hirose, the fat one. Shimada only put that he finished the sample and didn't even mention it. Sorry for that confusion. Haha. & Thank you once again for all your support! 😁😊
Honestly, I was reading the manga version after watching the movie because I want to know more about Shimada & Hirose. And I'm still disappointed. Still, Shimada & Hirose have a big impact to the storyline.
It's sad that ppl call him evil just bcoz he blamed shoya for shouko's bullying in middle school and forgot that he actually tried to stop ishida from bullying shouko in manga in the beginning. He also advised him to join cram school for his better future. But ishida instead made kazuki skip his classes. So, Both of them were bad influences to each other. Also, there's no proof that Kazuki was going to bully ishida that night he fell in river. The only thing we saw IS KAZUKI SAVING ISHIDA'S LIFE BY JUMPING IN THE RIVER. HE DESERVES SECOND CHANCE TOO LIKE ISHIDA DID. WE SAW ISHIDA SUFFERINGS THAT'S WHY WE FELT SYMPATHY FOR HIM BUT WE NEVER SAW KAZUKI'S SUFFERINGS THAT'S WHY PPL DON'T CARE ABOUT HIM UNFORTUNATELY. He's an interesting character and deserves redemption arc, it was good to see that Ishida wanted to clear misunderstandings between them in manga but writer never made that part.
1) Shimada is an accomplice in bulling Nishimiya, he shares the blame with all the others. 2) He and Hirose just happened to rescue him, since they were following him.
Did... did you actually watch the video, or did you just drop in to comment this without watching? 😂 I never stated that he was free of blame or that he wasn’t a bully. Also, I delve into the fact that they were following him and everything we know about why. 🤔
I suspect Kiesuke (the fat freind turned bully) had some closet resentments building up towards Shoya for a while but was to afraid to stand up for himself when they were "freinds". I haven't read the manga but in the film Shoya was always the one rough housing him as kids. We assumed they were both cool with it but Kiesuke is clearly out of shape which might indicate depression and a lack of self confidence. Overweight kids are often at the bottom of the schools social hierarchy. Young Shoya took advantage of this by being more physically aggressive with him (and maybe verberally too). Preying on a weaker kid to make himself feel more dominant. This is something that actually happens in unhealthy freindships in real life. Often someone who is lonely or weak will suck up being mistreated in a codependent relationship just so they can feel part of a group or have freinds just for the sake of having them. This is especially true with kids. This can build into closet anger and resentment overtime. To be fair, Shoya might not have realized that Keisuke was feeling this way and just assumed they were god pals, but he was so horrible in that time of his life that Keusuke might have been to scared of him to say anything. When Shoko appears Kiesuke joined in the bullying because he was just happy to no longer be Shoya main target. This was horrible for him to do buts it's real human behavior especially from someone who is pretty weak. There are cases of bullied kids becoming bullies themselves. He wanted to stay on Shoya good side who he feared and still a have group of freinds. Shoko being the new bottom of the school hierarchy was his way out. When the entire class turns on Shoya Kiesuke realized he didn't have to be freinds with someone who was being mean to him anymore. Now that Shoya was at the bottom of the class soical hierarchy he no longer feared him. Smelling blood, he quickly turns on Shoya and we see him rough house him in a similar way Shoya did to him earlier. All his build up anger started coming out at that point and he became a bully himself to a very confused Shoya who thought they were freinds. The reason why we see Keisuke write "lol" at Shoya fall (as this video showed me) is because unlike Kazuki, he still has a lot of anger directed at Shoya and still sees him as the mean freind that mistreated him. It also might have reminded him of when Shoya persured him to jump off the bridge which might of been a bad memory for him. Thus he couldn't help but see a little ironic karma. He still help save him because also trying to let the go of his own anger. Then again for all we know he might still be freinds with Kazuki because he still fears him and just wants to be on the good side of whoever is on the top of the social hierarchy.
I totally agree. Maybe Hirose was too scared to stand up to him and I notice that Ishida was rougher on him. I also think Shimada might've been a little scared too to stand up to Ishida and get bullied in return. And when the right moment came to turn on Ishida, they both did.
I'm fairly conflicted with him honestly. On one hand he wasn't much different than Ishida in terms of bullying and might have been worse. Though, on the other hand there might be unforeseen things like you said. Overall, without the parts we don't know I don't like him but I don't think I hate him too much.
I had friend group entirely cut me out of their group once we graduated from Grade School to High school. I still to this day don't know why it happened. The only explanation that I ever received is because of where I went to school but even then to me it seemed like it was something else entirely. To me its weird because it wasn't like I was the odd man out. We hung out a lot as a group and I connected to some of the other guys separately from the group. I haven't spoken to them since then and I really don't care, I have made much better friends over time, and like Ishida it doesn't matter to me if I ever make amends or figure out why it happened the way it happened. Maybe one day but I cherish my current friends more than them.
Thanks for the video! The movie did not really explain the police scene that well and I was really confuse because he seemed to have a more important role than what was shown in the movie and after watching this I fully understand what was going on. Thanks!!!!
Alright! Where's 2! We need 2! And I expect to see Kazuki and Shoya become friends again! Or at least show up way more then he did before. He's one of my favorites! I have a crush on him, too, lol.
I request Maria 😂😂Jk I love these, your analysis is so interesting but at the same time soo detailed. Like how? I swear your videos are the only ones that has never made me want click off the video. Love you man. Your voice is so soothing too aha! 😂😂
Miya Thanks, glad you like them! 😊 I'm personally not a big fan of my voice and struggle with it a lot, so comments like this are a huge confidence booster. 😁💯
Thomas Fernandez Her mom (Ishida's sister) never shows up once, but nevertheless she seemed to have a huge influence on Ishida and who he was in the future. Pedro (I think that was it? I'm terrible with names.) seems chill, I like him.
The Anime Dude she did showed up plenty of times, especially in scenes at Ishida house (most of the time just her legs, typical KyoAni and their leg fetish). We just never see her face. Btw she (surprisingly) have dialogues as well, she's voiced by Hamaguchi Ayano in the movie (I'm assuming she's a new seiyuu), for a faceless character with some lines of dialogues, she somehow still have less screentime than Maria and Pedro (who have little to no line at all), a very intriguing character I'd say.
haydn calvert Yea, he may not, we don't know. Haha. Aside from Kawai, I feel like it'd be normal for most people to feel guilty about something like that, especially if you used to be friends with the person. Exhibit A: Ueno. Then again, I could be completely wrong.
My theory is that Shimada was afraid that he might get bullied himself if he were to stop bulling Shouko, and that would be why he tried to stop Shouya from bulling her, but still continued to bully Shouko when everyone else was. This was something that I went through myself in elementary. I also think that the reason he blamed everything on Shouya was either because he actually felt like it was all his fault because he tried to stop him, or he didn’t want to get in trouble with his parents that seem to be strict. I think that Shimada bullied Shouya because he didn’t want to be associated with him anymore because he might get in trouble with his parents if were to do so, and also bullying someone is an easy way to get someone away from you. After all, Shimada was still an asshole in elementary, but I can understand why he did the things he did.
Keeping the reunion with Shimada and Hirose unwritten makes it mysterious to the audience the same way each other character’s unique chapter is mysterious to Shoya when he’s in the hospital.
(havent watched the video yet) shimada always looked so lifeless and acted so dully it made me think that he could possibly have been neglected also it looked like he realized he messed up cause even when he helped ishida out he felt too guilty to actually talk to him i could even say that although he's a side character that barely even pops up i feel like his character development was way better than that one black haired chick
I love this movie SO MUCH. It’s my favorite movie. There were many things that threw me off in the movie/ got me hella mad but I still hope they make a second movie and MAYBE make a TV Series
Great video! This is my most fav anime which has made me cry for about a day, and I feel like this anime should have more attention, this is the beST ANIME THAT HAS EVER EXISTED..
Hi! Thank you so much for this video. I have both read the manga, and then, watched the movie, but even after that, I couldn't quite come up with a convincing theory to understand why Shimada acted like he did. Your personal thoughts are really interesting, though I didn't have the feeling that Shimada honestly felt (even a bit of) regret when he met Ishida at the amusement park again (though, I'd like to regain faith in his 'humanity'). Why? Because his smile didn't reflect any sincerity for me. Sure, maybe he tried to apologize for what he did when he followed Ishida just before the fall in the pond scene, however I still don't get why he bullied Ishida when they were in Elementary school. If we admit that at some point, he didn't consider him a friend anymore, it still isn't enough a reason for his doing, at least to me. At first, I had thought that he wanted to get back at Ishida for all the 'pushing' he did towards Hirose and him (e.g. the courage test and the "forced" 'come play video games at my house' thing), although he understood that it was time for them to grow up. Likewise, Hirose also used the same wrestling(?) position to bully Ishida like Ishida had used to do to him. However, I still don't think that this alone justifies their acts. As someone in the comments section pointed out, why would Shimada somehow "go out of his way" to become what he himself criticized all along? Why would he bully if he said himself that Ishida should stop it? My guess so far is, as you said, the assumption that as his parents probably pressured him to study more, get better chances to go to a prestigious school and succeed in life, he may have let the stress build up to the point where he couldn't cope with it anymore. Thus he found a convenient way to release that stress by harassing Ishida. Which, btw, wouldn't be surprising since it's quite common in Japan. Maybe, the one thing that I can't accept is the fact that he seemed to be quite dull/weak as a character (despite of his intelligence, he didn't seem to play a big role in the former trio), he didn't stand out at all at first, but afterwards he somehow managed to become a "leading" figure in his class as he dragged all of Ishida's old friends on his side to bully Ishida. Furthermore, nobody dared to go against him (though Ueno didn't want to play a part in it, she was still kinda forced to write mean things on Ishida's table too). Like, did anyone see that coming? Either Shimada was a fake friend all along or he's just a really good manipulator and decided to "get real" as he got fed up with Ishida's childish play. Your video helped me get a better grasp of his point of view, but I feel like there's still a missing piece of the puzzle. Ofc, it was probably meant to be so by the mangaka, thus all of us trying to figure it out, yet I'm the type of person that likes when a story ends in a way where everything gets cleared out. Well, what do you think about it?
I was surprised that u chose to dedicate a whole video to one of the most minor characters yet amazed that u could make his presence seem so major and important ! I think the significance of his character does lie in the core themes of the series , confronting your past and changing as long as ur alive. I remember being a bit disappointed at the end of the manga when the confrontation between him and ishida wasnt shown , I really thought this guy deserved some spotlight and wanted to know if he ever felt regret or remorse over the past. But at the same time , it did end the manga with a positive message telling the audience to open their own doors so hopefully ishidas courage does lead to him and kazuki coming to terms in some way , friends or not. Congratulations btw I hope ur channel continues to grow :-)
He's not minor character at all.
He is the main reason why Ishida goes through all the suffering and trauma, but also the first one who made Ishida realized that bullying is wrong and how bad it felt of being bullied.
This character also has many mystery left for the audience to interpreted in the manga version. (Anime once again cut most of his screen time)
Totally the same way. Man sometimes that manga ending, I really do wonder what happens next the moment Ishida alongside Nishimiya went through those doors afterwards?
It's one of the most important character i think
i personally love shimada so the insight in this video was really nice and made me feel happy that he's paying attention to one of the minor characters in the show
@@mic01851165You forgot he even saved him
Am I the only one who realizes that in the movie Kazukis eyes looks so lifeless?
mangle&sprintrap aj I realized that too, at first I thought that he was blind
Same and I knew that boy wasn’t happy
Yeah it looks like he doesn't see the world correctly.
AdeptKing yeah, I think he’s depressed.
Emotionless I think.
One thing that I have noticed is that shimada has very blank eyes, like he is always bored, and whenever he smiles, his eye's don't change. A lot of people say that smiling isn't genuine unless it's also in the eyes. By giving shimada those blank eyes, I think the director/manga artist is trying to show that shimada is not happy with his life. By hinting that he might be going through a difficult time, without going much into it, the film/manga seems more realistic. Everybody has their own lives, and it is very unrealistic that somebody would know exactly what is going on with the lives of all the people around them, so I think that shimada's character is very important in in making this film more believable.
You do got a point.
@hotmessinmy uterus yea but think of this moive realistically, what she could be true or is true...to me the movie was so realistic for me cause that's how i got thru. Tho i know this not important but i never necessarily bullied anyone but Ishida and i have the same role. I just hope i don't end up died lol?
Interesting! I remember when he was younger, he always wore sweatshirts that were way too big for him and his sleeves ran past his hands and he always had hands on his face as if he was bored
I know this comment was two years ago but I agree with you, he looks pretty emotionless. But he looks pretty attractive and hot tho-
yeah based on the video it seems he had strict parents and were kinda hard on him wanting to have a "talented/successful" son and kinda forced him to mature faster or wouldn't surprise me if his parents abuse him. anime usually make it obvious if a character is being abused but with the more realistic way the series is handling things there aren't always obvious signs or a way to tell if someone is being abused unless its like over the top kind
Teacher: You deserve it, Ishida.
Me: Well I'm betting five bucks that this professor dude used to be the worst bully ever.
Bao Tran he would also get annoyed of people talking slower for Shoko and visibly irritated when shoko is to read out loud
Teacher: You deserve it Ishida.
Characters: grow up.
Teacher: Oh, it's Shoko's family's fault, they abused her disability so she can go to different schools, Ishida you're fine, you were just joking around lololol-
Red haired, thick eyebrows: *splashes water on teacher*
Teacher: get outta my face
@@baoboba Literally this profesor was the worst one in sho's bullying. He could have stopped it, literally when it began.
@@popbottles229 He shouldn’t have had her read out loud in the first place. Ignoring the problem and pretending she’s not deaf only brings more attention to it. The school administration was infuriatingly incompetent.
In the manga,the professor is an asshole and was worse then how he is in the show
Ishida was forced to accept he was wrong. No one turned on Shimada though, this means that he would have to look critically at himself and decide for himself that he was wrong. And this is a hard thing to do.
Ishida was forced to give everything up. Shimada didn't want to do that himself and instead denied he bullied Ishida. Most would do the same.
Time passes and Shimada feels too guilty to be Ishida's friend, so he helps out in secret because he feels as though he doesn't deserve recognition.
When Ishida meets Shimada after the final chapter it'll be by Ishida's choice, not Ueno's. I like to think this will allow them to reconcile without it feeling forced
Well put. Couldn’t have said it better myself.
I think the friendship thing is already too late , but that doesn't mean they have to be mean towards each other for the rest of their lives. Shimida knows what he did and stays away from Ishida which is probably for the best because they both have different lives that neither is apart of which happens to people that were once close.
I’m pretty sure Shimada and the other person was following Ishida right before he save Shouko because they thought it would be funny according to the fandom
That was a lie actually since they were making music of a movie ishida and his friends are making in the manga I think they finish the music and for whatever reason want to show it to ishida so follow him to give him their Email first making me think they tried to apologize to Ishida and reconcile but didn’t have a chance .
i wanted to see more of his character, when I saw him carrying his flag I honestly thought he was going to be a cinnamon roll..
Same
@@leziizel7010 haikyuu IS indeed my life lol
@@sunoolys7201 Yes😌
Eyyy were in the same boat
@Nocturnal Gacha fr
His personality is like "I'm your friend, but i don't include myself on your own actions towards other people". You can say he always stays on the green zone, he don't give a fuck about others. A cunning and sly person he is.
Ryo Tomonari Agreed
He was so annoying when he started bully Ishida, he was trying to comfort himself by doing all those things to Ishida and telling himself it's ok if I do this
@@babyboop2878 so he just afraid to be part of a bully ouch
@@code066funkinbird3 yeah and ended up being worse
Shimada was a character that caught my attention in the beginning. Once he disconnected with Ishida i was kinda waiting the whole time for him to "redeem himself" alongside the other characters. Given that he never did, he became a character that i just skimmed by. I didnt even realise it was them two who saved hi until reading the manga...still have mixed feelings for him all and all But somewhere might be some sort if respect??
I actually liked how they did that, I thought it was super relatable that they just didn’t become friends anymore. Kazuki is a childhood friend that stopped being friends. Which is something that a lot of kids can relate to. You don’t always have an happy ending or get to redeem yourself as you may be a antihero in another story you can be the main character in yours. Kazuki drifted apart and telling people or kids that you will always be friends in the end is sending them in the wrong direction. Sorry I posted this 5 years too late
@@cheese4599 Well I think your wrong they easily could have made one freinds stay and the other not for example the other fat one whose name I don't know
I think shimada wanted to say sorry but I don't think he actually want to be friends with ishida anymore...
Sora Granda I think I'd agree with that.
why
@blaze raze because he was probably guilty
While both the manga and anime doesn't show case him a lot, the manga makes it an effort where despite the fact that he doesn't appear, he has a huge impact on the psychology of Shouya for a good part of the series.
I am glad that he was against the bullying that ishida has done but I don't think I can like his character much because of the fact that he turned into everything he was seemingly against. He didn't like the bullying done but he bullied the bully. He was no better. He also betrayed his friend. They were friends, he should of at least help point ishida to the right path. I never liked that part and it angers me personally. That's pretty much all I think of him since I don't know much else of him other than that part. I guess I like that he matured more so he was still happy for his 'old friend' when he sees him happy.
Teresa Perez bullies deserve to be bullied. If you are bullying a bully, it doesn’t count basically.
Sena He was against the bullying, but he never tried to stop the bullying or do anything about it. He isn’t innocent. He just stood there and watched as Shoya bullied Shoko.
MrTailsprower7 he wasn’t against the bullying. He smiled as shota wrote stuff on the board. Must have been entertaining to him
Sena Yea, that could be. I didnt like him because he basically put all the blame on Shoya without taking the blame himself. At least Shoya tried to make things right and take responsibility.
MrTailsprower7 at least he didn’t act like a saint or try to play the victim like kawai. Also I don’t think he actually did anything. Just watched. Ishida tried to spread the blame back to all the other classmates as well.
If I remember correctly, I didn't even expect to see him again the second half of the movie. Who knew there were all these underlying possibilities to go along with it?
2Spooky Haha, yea, I remember on my first watch through I didn't even notice it was Shimada & Hirose that rescued Ishida.
Hey do you know why a lot of the fan base thinks he is trans? I literally am confused why everyone on tumblr thinks he is. Not that there is anything g wrong with being trans.
Armonie Reed I think I remember seeing something about that cuz when Hirose texted Ueno he had his GF as his wallpaper, and something about Shimada’s name in the convo made them think that was him. It was stupid assumption someone made midway through the story, or perhaps just from a single page, & there’s no truth to it. Hirose is shown with that girl years later along with a kid, and Shimada is shown also. Haha.
Ok thank you! I was so confused. Certain people do like to “claim” certain characters so I can see that scenario happening..
I know it’s pretty late, but can you make a video about Koe no Katachi
I love his character design
Personality, not so much..
yea same those eyebrows and long sleeves are cute
His character design is the cutest thing ever!!
Why not?he is not a jerk i think, he is against at ichida, i mean yes he is a bullybut not bully as ichida, also yes his character design is the best, j would ship him to ueno, ueno is oneof the worst characters though she is cute like kawai
@@bigchongus5140 english
Kami lol
I think its very sweet how that moment when Shimada and Hirose saved Ishida pulling him out the water kind of parallels when they were kids, to the moment they thew him in the water as they cut ties from each other.
Mini umm if ishida didn’t fall in they were gonna taunt him and beat him up and then push him in so no not sweet
They were going to jump him if he haven’t fell in the water
@@debjr45 the comment went over your head.. the point is they saved him from drowning in the water despite their childhood history together and that's sweet, idiot
it's the irony in how they onced pushed him in some water as children Ishida being bullied, to then those same bullies saving his life pulling out from the water drowning later in the years.
What a curious statement: "Ueno, I don't want such unnecessary kindness."
He recognizes it as "kindness" to bring Shoya to him. This rules out him feeling indifferent or positively about his behavior toward Shoya and almost necessarily suggests a feeling of well deserved guilt on his part. He is not angry at being confronted with someone he hurt, but it's "unnecessary". If the emotions were too overwhelming he would be angry or scared, but this is a calm reaction, though not indifferent. I would bet a lot of thought has been flooded into Shimada view of what he did to Shoya. There is an acceptance of his responsibility as such, "kindness" trying to mend or provide closure to heal was not needed. Shimada has chosen that guilt is the price he can pay for it.
Another interesting choice (though mostly in the anime) is the choice or clothing they give Shimada in his younger various. When he is produce criticism on Shoya, he gads his hands behind the along sleeves and covers his mouth. This piece of art understand communication and makes an effort to hid his when he acts this way.
Shimada seems- to me- like a boy who can compartmentalize very efficiently. He is very internal as a character, which would explain why there is so much mystery to him. He has managed his own feeling regarding what he did and the choices he made. To be clear he hasn't ignored it, I would think he accepted it and resolves to suffer and live with it.
The stoics would be proud
Ik this was written a year ago but man this is such a cool comment. Great analysis!!!
@@lilyx7056 Guess the psychology degree wasn't a waste, thanks
Man, it just hit me just how much Shimada could've actually meant by saying 'Do you really want to be acknowledged by those pieces of sh*t?'. It feels like he meant so much more, as if he actually meant to say these exact words to Ishida before, even when he himself was bullying Ishida. I feel like Shimada wanted Ishida to grow, the same way his teacher did. In a very fked up way. I feel he wanted Ishida to stop doing stuff to be acknowledged by his peers. Ishida deeply cares what others think of him, this is proven multiple times. From how he thinks Nishimiya sees him to him being afraid of his friends finding out he bullied Nishimiya. Let's not forget how the contest of courage is just to prove yourself to others by doing dumb sht. We can see Shimada was the fastest to mature of the three so I can see him wanting to teach Ishida a lesson, maybe at the beginning making Ishida grow wasn't his true objective and he was just a jackass. But him secretly helping Ishida seemed like his own way of redeeming his actions, but he was doing it for himself. Not to prove himself to anybody. He's not the kid trying to look like the hero to get recognition for it. But that's maybe me thinking too much of it lol
Vyx Diverkay Maybe, maybe not, but regardless, that's a very interesting take on things nonetheless.
Could that be the Mangaka's way of saying Shimada's a POS?
the directors they're talking about are POSes for not acknowledging, and Shimada apparently will never apologize (he may not even admit to himself) he too was a bully. Not only will Shimada never acknowledge, this may be an admission he never, ever will. This little scene is just the Mangaka saying Shimada will never acknowledge.
Unlike Kawai who knows eff-dup stuff happened and tries to run from it, Shimada may be the most pathetic in never admitting anything - he abused Shoko and Shoya. (I'm movie-only so far).
@@cheese6783 It's in the OP (original post)
POS= pieces of sh*t?'
Great video: Here's my thoughts on Shimada.
1. He gives in to peer pressure and since Ishida seemed 'cool' and 'fun' he was scared to speak out and lose his friend or because Ishida has a very domineering personality as a kid.
2. It became easy to betray Ishida because he didn't wanna get in trouble by parents/authorities- his parents probably saw him as a bad influence + Shimada probably started to get bored of Ishida's childish games.
----He bullies Ishida because he's angry that Ishida tried to rat them out even if he DID try to tell him not to, plus he is a kid and could be a hypocrite thinking his involvement in the bullying is not as bad as what Ishida did, so he doesn't deserve the same punishment.
----Now that Ishida is disliked by the teacher and class, Shimada is no longer afraid of peer pressure and can be himself more around Ishida because Ishida will always get blamed because he's a 'bully.' So he takes out his anger onto him. Maybe he felt some resentment towards Ishida when Ishida forced him to do wreckless and dumb things.
3. He seems depressed and guilty for what he did in his past and probably is bored with life.
4. He doesn't wanna be friends with Ishida and probably still thinks he's lame deep down, but he feels really guilty for what he did and if he did want to be friends with the new Ishida he's heard about from Ueno and seen; he probably doesn't think he deserves it and probably doesn't think Ishida would forgive him. He has too much pride to apologize to Shimada.
While Shimadas hypocrisy and actions as a child are despicable I think that goes to show that he's one of the most "real" characters. I'd say he is actually closest to Mashiba in character. Mashiba sees something he considers wrong and doesn't try to understand but simply makes a judgement call. Meanwhile Shimada sees something he considers wrong (and is too opportunistic to stop it) but then goes "It's okay todo that thing I consider wrong to the person that did it first."
Not trying to turn this into a political discussion but merely choosing an example: It's a little like what we see both the left and the right ends of the political spectrum corrently doing. Both sides point at the other end and go "These people are so horrible for reasons x and y. You don't do these kinds of things." but then continue to do exactly those things towards those enemies due to a sense of them "deserving it". It's a flaw many humans have to disregard the rules they expect another person to follow once they have deemed that person as being terrible so it makes sense that Shimada would act in a similar way.
We like to think we're all nice and noble but in reality I think while Shimada, Mashiba and Sahara are the closest to what one could consider "the average human" in this movie. Not as openly hostile as Ueno, not as narcissistic as Kawai and not as self-deprecating as Shoko or Ishida but somewhere in the middle. Either by putting on a facade of fake courage while being afraid to have and voice an opinion (Sahara), considering themselves to be on a higher moral ground than "them" and thus feeling free to judge and punish others (Mashiba) or thinking that treating others wrong because they treat people wrong is "fair" and "just deserts" (Shimada). They all don't act out of evil intent but find different ways to escape any kind of responsibility which is something humans very commonly do.
Mm hm. Speaking of right vs left politics. While I think one side is far more immoral; it only takes one mortal sin to go to hell.
Shimada honestly reminds me of an old school acquaintance from my youth (between elementary and junior high) VERY MUCH. That person even had the same hair color and pale complexion. Crazy!! It even made me cringe seeing how perfectly this character resembles that person in personality and in the things he did. Love your analysis. It helped me understand that person from my past as well, and forgive them a bit more, even though I will never see them again.
Another great video!
First off, your thumbnail on this one is fantastic. Second, your focus on this character is fantastic, as this character, though minor, is incredibly important in the overall plot of the story, and his inclusion brings to light so many of the manga's central themes (which you touch on here). You say a lot of things that have been on my mind ever since I read the manga. And I find your speculation on the character's motives really interesting. I think we, as the readers and viewers, are supposed to do that with his character, as that is exactly what Ishida has to do.
Thanks for the great video! And great choice using that piece from Angel Beats in the background (at least I think that's where it's from) ^_^
Dang, pointing out the Thumbnail & Angel Beats music in the same comment??? Someone sure pays attention. Haha. Glad you liked he video man, and it's pretty reassuring when you say these things were on your mind when you read it too! 😁👍🏻
I dunno why I love such mysterious characters like him so much
i have a feeling that shimada has a really strict family background so he's the kind of kid who has no freedom and is forced into focusing soley on academics and music and basically exceling his life like a good ol asian kid. so he is always so lifeless (look at the boys blank eyes man) and detached from everyone (the way he looks away from others and his cold tone and that scene where he looks at hirose and ishida play while doing nothing) but i feel like he actually really wants to reach out and have fun like a normal kid.
i think maybe his parents told him not to mix with hirose and ishida, maintain a distance and not to have "too much fun" so he can focus on school, which made him unable to connect well with others haing this huge expectation weighing him down and the overwhelming dilemma of listening to his parents or his heart. which is also why i think it would make him feel kind of oppressed by his parents, making him vent this frustration, or rather he tries to feel like he is in control over his life by bullying ishida and being the "ringleader", being the dominant cool kid coz he could never assert any authority at home or have a say over his life. plus he was quick to protect his reputation and stay out of trouble so as to maintain a perfect track record by pushing the blame of bullying nishimiya to ishida, probably for his parents and what they have warned him to do (excel and be a star student blahblah)
im pretty sure ishida is smart enough to acknowledge all of his messed up actions and motivations, or at least when he grew up he did, and this guilt and self awareness is what makes him inclined to make it up to ishida (saving his life) but not having the balls to do so explicitly (telling ueno not to tell ishida he saved him) because for one, he might not forgive him for such malice, but two, i think he lacks the social skills to do so and felt like the old him is still trying to distance the self away from people, like ishida. (three, this one might be far fetched but, i think this past of his was never revealed to anyone, so nobody truly understands who ishida is and why he did what he did. on the surface it would be incredibly hard to forgive somebody like him because nobody saw the hardships he went through or bothered to empathise with this big bully. which is why in some ways i see great similarities between him and ishida, both bullies whom nobody truly tried to empathise with and understand. so anyways i think this is also why shimada is not inclined to approach ishida as he thinks he won't understand)
shimada ultimately probably wants to make amends and have friends but he just can't reach out so when given the opportunity to help ishida he does so without hesitating but never confronts him directly. i think shimada is a really complex character that, while some/many might disagree, is sympathetic and relatable. the adverse and far-reaching effects of family imposed pressures is criminally not-talked-about and how it can manifest into a monster who lives the rest of his life in guilt, shame, and lack of true friends who can understand him and whom he can reach out to. this is what i absolutely adore koe no katachi for -- their characters are SO REAL you empathise and feel for them so much and so it really does change your perspective and teach you invaluable life lessons. thanks for coming to my ted talk lol.
allow me to rant more LOL: i feel so upset? or like disappointed when people FAIL TO SEE THE POINT AND REAL VALUE of this beautiful film and comment shit like oh they are tokenising disabled people and encouragin people to pity these people by presenting nishimiya as a damsel in distress plus how every other character is one dimensional motivated by shallow intentions like seriously? were you watching the film with your eyes and EARS AND HEART closed? clearly (or so i thought), the main character is ishida and not exactly nishimiya, so if you were gonna criticise the film for not focusing on nishimiya and her story enough then hunny youre sorely missing the point. koe no katachi is focusing on the perspective of the bully and for god sake even so, nishimiya is portrayed as somebody who has lost their sense of self, who does everything to please others even though she struggles with mental issues herself, and bringing to light how people dont notice these things and just treat try to care for them without actually empathising so i dont see how the film makers were just capitalising on diabilities to elicit our pity for the disabled (in fact it might even be trying to make us pity the bully!! which i feel is such an interesting take considering how every other media post only focuses on the victim) because if you seriously think it is so then i sincerely feel imho that you are the one who is misinterpreting this masterpiece. wowe i feel like such a karen right now AAAAAAAAA
Wow, I've only seen the movie and never read the manga, but this really changed how I felt about Shimada. It really shows how you shouldn't judge someone until you get to know them better and see what kind of person they are. I think if he and Hirose really hated Shouya, they would have just let him die. I hope you'll analyze Yuzuru next, as I've heard she was picked on just because her sister was deaf and I only know what I've seen in the movie, and it's obvious the manga fleshed out the characters much more than the movie. Awesome video, dude! (Also, if you want to branch out and analyze characters from other anime, may I recommend a few? Satoko Houjou from Higurashi no naku koro ni, or Madoka Koumoto from A Bridge to The Starry Skies, or Yuki Kanno from Corpse Party)
Sky's Kokoro I haven't seen Corpse Party or All of Higurashi (unfortunately. 😅), but I am always willing to listen to suggestions, as I definitely plan on doing characters from other series as well! 😁😊
(Also, I've been planning on doing Yuzuru for a while, it'll just take a while. She's one of my faves. Haha.)
I found it cruel when the text message said "Ishida fell. lol" in Chapter 50. It shows that Kazuki Shimada have no compassion towards Shouya Ishida or how Ishida's family feel. Ishida has a family. Does Shimada think about that?
That was hirose that said that To Ueno
@@General_D1 still harsh to say that though.
@@400Awesomo it is, but I know you might be like how can you tell, but for me I personally felt that when you see Hirose 2 years later when hes still with his GF and has a daughter, I sense that he had matured compare to when he was 17-18 and said those messages to Ueno. Personally I’d love to see more of these 2 and A further conclusion to the ending
@@General_D1 I agree with you there. I do feel that Hirose should be a good influence to his baby daughter.
@@400Awesomo yeah I agree, also in your original comment you said “Shimada shows no care in how ishidas family feels” despite you got it mixed up with Hirose, I wanted to say that this is my own interpretation, but what if Hirose thought back on how ishidas mother felt when she found out her son is in a near death situation and he obviously doesn’t want his daughter to be in that same position.
That teacher is failin his job ye he deserved it but a teacher is supposed to be impartial
evan genockey
And the fact the teacher did nothing went his class bullied Nishimiya despite knowing.
King Henry VIII Tudor
It’s awful yet so dam real it’s scary
I was bullied, kids threw my pencil case around the class, dump it in the trash or on my desk, told me to go end it all and my teacher who is in the same room Wich was tiny never said anything
Just like here
I wonder if he was ever sorry for being such a jerk.
He getting away with helping to bully Nishimiya and bullying Ishida directly is sooo unfair.
I love these A Silent Voice videos! Thank you!
yang justen No Problem Yang, glad you like them! 😁😊
Well he,s hot
tru i'd smash :3
He literally has no light in his eyes ._. That's the sign of a pure sociopath. And you dense bitches find a soulless character like him to be "hot"? Gross
he's a 2D fictional character, its not a betrayal of one's moral compass to find a drawing attractive
You sem to have a rather nihilistic view on what it means to sympathize with a character and don't seem to have the human capability of knowing what it means to have an intangible emotional relationship with a character you admire. In a way I can't help but pity you. Being able to read or watch a form of media where the characterization feels so realistic to you that you can feel touched by their actions on an intangible facet is probably one of the greatest feelings one could get to experience in our world. If more people treated characters the same way as you and OP did, no one would truly ever have a real appreciation for literature nor art and many forms of creativity would be taken for granted.
An antagonist who's been shown to be heartless and have no redeeming qualities about them would, ordinarily, be treated as such. A simple antagonist who stands as nothing more but a grating obstacle to the protagonist in the show.
OP doesn't even bother to explain something meaningful for why she feels he could be redeemed enough in her eyes for him to be seen in a way as being a favorable character. She simply affections him for the mere fact that he has a good looking face in character design.
That is the lowest form of a shallow personality I can say I've ever come across in my life, and is rather juvenile and immature way of thinking. But hey, obviously she didn't gain any form of depth from the show from how she makes herself out to be. Instead she probably enjoyed it for the "shiny colors" and "Cute boys" like any other brainless shallow bimbo like her could only ever gain from anything they ever watch.
+Fuzzy Wuzzy Hm.. Well it seems like you've yet to mature and learn to be receptive towards hearing anything that doesn't necessarily pertain to _your_ beliefs. Until you gain the maturity to see beyond your own view point and look outside of your own bubble of ignorance; you'll never be able to accept progress or change in your life. Talking anymore with you will just be a complete waste of time and energy. Have a good day
I am certainly not a huge fan of Shimada & Hirose, in fact I sort of dislike them more than Kawai and that's saying something, but at the same time, they do seem to have something of a, I guess redeeming factor to them if that makes sense. Nonetheless they are intriguing characters that highly influenced the series. Great video, anything else coming up?
Hirose is literally a background character in every sense of the word, he does nothing likable or unlikable
As for Shimada though... I hate him, though I do like the irony that he saved Shoya from drowning/dying
Kazuki was always one of my favorite characters in the movie. Sure he was a scumbag but something about him made me really like his personality and dead eyes a lot. And it made me really happy to know he was the one to save Shoya when he fell. I watched the movie again with my mom the other day and when I explained to her that he was the one to save Shoya when he fell, she said "a friend always remains a friend no matter what goes on between them. Deep in the heart they will always regret their actions and would still help you no matter what."
1:26 So close to seeing the sister's face...
I was raging in that scene
I can imagine her having blue eyes and a smile
I still have a grudge against Kazuki even after rewatching Koe No Katachi...
He's exactly like the type of "friends" I used to have
These "friends" turned on me and abandoned me just like Kazuki :(
It's hard but I try to ask Jesus to bless my former friends and enemies so they can repent and do good from now on, and for me to heal so I can move on with my life, cause hating them will only keep them in my head rent free. I want them to get to Heaven, but I don't wanna think about 'em anymore. I forgive them, and wish them well.
Am I the only one who gets the feeling that Shimada is motivated by a jealousy for Shouya stemming from a crush he has on Ueno whom his character is meant to be a foil to? The manga already established that he had an interest in girls durring the 6th grade and only joined in the bullying of Shouko despite initially being against it when he saw Ueno doing so. This would imply that like Ueno he only started bullying Shouko to impress his crush, but unlike her, Shimada seemed to resent what he was doing as indicated by his occasional objections to the bullying. This would explain why he so quickly turned on Shouya when Shouya took the blame for what they did to Shouko and become a ring leader in tormenting him. It was meant as retaliation. Shimada resented himself for had he felt he was forced to do to Shouko, but liking Ueno too much to blame her, chose to blame Shouya instead for pushing both himself and Ueno into bullying Shouko. Is in line with what Ueno said about Shimada resenting Shouya for causing the trouble with Shouko and trying to drag others into it. The fact that Shimada took issue with Shouya trying to spread the blame is particularly interesting as if I remember correctly, Ueno was one of the few Shouya mentions by name when saying that others where responsible too for what happened to Shouko. This seems to suggest Shimada took issue with Shouya trying to get Ueno in trouble. This would explain why Shimada was so insistent in getting Ueno to join in on the torment of Shouya, not only was he trying to make her turn on her crush and come over to his side, Shimada was also in his mind helping Ueno to get revenge on Shouya for making her do the things she did and try to get her in trouble for it. Ironically, like how Ueno's aggression towards Shouko for Shouya's sake would only end up hurting Shouya, Shimada's well intentioned actions would only cause Ueno to feel guilty for what happened to Shouya...
Like Ueno, it also seems that Shimada's crush did not go away with age as he is resistant to reconciliation with Shouya when Ueno presented him with the chance to do so much like the way Ueno refused to reconcile with Shouko due to their romantic rivalry. This would also explain why he helped with the musical accepts or Shouya's movie despite his hostility towards him. Remember it was Ueno's idea to involve Shimada in the movie, his participation with the movie along with his later following and saving of Shouya was all done for Ueno. I do not believe Hirose and Shimada were following Shouya on the night he fell to reconcile with him as it would make no sense why they did try again to reconcile with Shouya after they saved his life...
Remember that Ueno was the only one who tried to contact Shouya after he told everyone off at the bridge but to no avail. I believe Shimada followed Shouya to confront him about insulting Ueno and giving her cold feet after he found out what happened, and that Shimada brought Hirose along as back up in case things got physical. I also believe that Shimada's decision to rescue Shouya was for Ueno as well as he understood how much Shouya meant to her and the pain it would cause her to lose him. This is why Shimada is not shown visiting Shouya and goes out of his way to prevent Shouya from trying to contact him later over the save by telling other to keep it a secret that it was him who saves Shouya. He clearly still resents Shouya but is willing to save his romantic rival for the sake of his crush.
You talk alot, it's nice
For me kawai is the most evil character out of all of them... She escaped everything just by crying
He is actually so attractive
Shimada interests me, I’ll say that. I think much of what you put forth in this video rings very true - I just wish we would’ve been allowed to see more of him in the film (I’ll probably read the manga, too, but as of right now, I haven’t yet). I think when it comes to bullying, and perhaps especially when the culprits are children, there are some very complex issues to consider. Having not yet reached emotional maturity and being at an age where your own identity begins to truly take shape, Shimada turning his back on Ishida - who was already falling behind in terms of maturity and being a stereotypical “bad boy” in 6th grade - is strangely understandable. Don’t get me wrong - I find it absolutely despicable, but these are boys on the cusp of puberty. I think, at that age, you do and say things in a flurry of desperation and fear and a confusing concoction on emotions and ideas that are difficult for you to grasp. And let’s not forget that this was very true for Ishida himself, when he initially started bullying Nishimiya. I don’t want it to come across as though I’m excusing their behaviour in any way, but I can at least to a certain degree understand what a confusing and frightening thing it is to be at an age where other people’s opinions, having a high status and being accepted by those around you suddenly outweighs almost everything else. I think it makes it so that you can only see what you personally have to ‘gain’ by bullying someone, while remaining more or less blind to the actual consequences of it. In the case of Shimada, perhaps Ishida’s fall from grace was his opportunity to well and truly cut ties with Ishida, elevating himself in the process. Again, not fully comprehending the consequences such behaviour might lead to - until he, as a high schooler, was able to look back and understand, to some degree, that what he’d done was reprehensible, but having already drifted far enough from Ishida to be able to mend it properly. Those are just some of my thoughts. Bullying is such a complex matter. As is often the case when children try to figure out how to fit into this world. I’m just glad Ishida went to such lengths to redeem himself, truly understanding and readily admitting that he’d been wrong in 6th grade, and I can only hope that Shimada does the same.
Some people seem to hate him but I thought Shimada was one of the most mature children in the whole show. When he was hanging out with Shimada and Hirose, he was the one who suggested that maybe it was time to stop breaking the rules and be serious about school, he would also suggest that Ishida was taking his bullying a bit too far. Without Shimada I don't think Ishida sees the errors of his way because Shimada was the one who started bullying Ishida, he's the reason he got isolated from the rest of the students. He's the one who gave Ishida a taste of his own medicine.
You could say Shimada did 2 things wrong. 1) Bully Ishada 2) Not give Ishada an opportunity to prove he changed. The reason Shimada started bullying Ishida is because he was bullying kids and he is the main reason Shouko transferred schools. When they meet again Shimada doesn't change his attitude, I would say when Shouko left their school, Shimada decided not to hang out with him ever again.
Another amazing character analysis Anime Dude!~ I'm really glad you made character analysis of Shimada. When watching throughout the movie he was completely mysterious, there wasn't much like shown his importance to Ishida's past and present of his life. It made myself hard to analyze him on the movie and yet even at the manga he was still mysterious but he was shown his importance of being a side character of the series. Overall I have seen again many people like him in real life, plus I may be part of it. He shows that he is a friend and will do somethings that are with you, but the actions are you to be blamed off not *us*. Through your analysis its noticeable that he may regret for bullying, blaming and leaving him off after that day happened. He may not say truly he is sorry but he shows that he is sorry by secretly hiding it with actions. He may regret the past yet he still had the time to change the future coming through to him.
And also I'm also happy that you got 1,000 subscribers and that means a lot to us. Hoping till the end that you're the best (for me) to analyze characters. :D
Honestly, koe no Katachi for me is the story of a young, honest, but misguided boy, who was forced to face the consequences of his actions in the most public and humiliating fashion, getting utterly defeated and destroyed emotionally and socially, and then rebuilding himself to be able to face the problems that he created head on, and with all of the sincerity that he can muster.
Along with all of his past friends who fail to do so at every turn, and will probably even fail to do so until their time on this mortal plane is at an end.
I honestly wish we got more of his pov on stuff I would definitely enjoy knowing how he actually felt
Shimada is similar to Sahara, he wants to be part of the group so he suppresses his true self to fit in. That means that he goes along with whatever Ishidia wants, because he wants Ishidia's approval and to be part of the group. But he grows resentful of this as his suggestions are constantly shot down by Ishidia, that's why when the class turns against Ishidia, he takes that opportunity to be the "leader" and then exacts revenge on Ishida.
That's why he tells Ueno to mind her business, why he hides the fact that he saved Ishidia, and his statement about the Judges. His and Hirose's character growth about being assertive, saying what they truly feel instead of just following along. There was an imbalance of power in the relationship between the three of them, which is what caused their group to split up, because they were less like friends and more like a boss and his two followers.
Glad to get another episode of this series, the way you reflect on the characters really adds to the experience! i'd be happy to watch something similar from you using other movies or series, also because i'm trying to get this movie out of my head (it's almost like i get depression after watching/reading these "open ended" dramas). Congrats on 1k subs btw!
Rexodiak Thank you! I definitely want to do Characters from other series as well, so I'm always keeping an ear out for recommendations! Haha.
why shimada always carried that flag in his elementary school
To be honest, I legitimately disliked Shimada and Hirose in the movie. I always felt like they were toying with Ishida from the very beginning for some reason. That was just the impression I got even though that probably wasn't the case and they may have really thought of him as a friend. I wish they had hinted at Shimada's cram school problems in the movie or even show the three drifting apart a little. Other then that I really enjoyed the movie and related to the main character on so many levels. A lot of people may think that the movie's portrayal of bullying and anxiety are exaggerated but as someone who has experienced it I can say that it hits very close to home for me.
I went to a different middle school then my elementary school friends and met them all again in high school. They had changed so much... they didn't seem like the same bunch of lovable nerds I had grown so close to in elementary. In terms of appearances and interests I hadn't changed that much. I was still the same scrawny art and videogame loving geek I've always been, just a lot less hyper. But they all seemed so..... girly. Which isn't a bad thing but different from how I remembered them so I was very nervous about talking to them. I hope I'll summon up the courage to say hi to them before I graduate. Even if they aren't the same kids I knew when I was little, I'm still grateful for all the fun times we shared and all the stupid things we used to do and I only hope for the best for their futures. I just wish there was a way I could let them know that.
Anyways.... that went on way longer than I expected. It was good to get that off my chest though and thanks for reading all that if you did! The video was great and I look forward to more quality anime related content from you in the future. ;)
Ishida's teacher turned him into a scapegoat for bullying Nishiyima. Shimada and Hirose would often beat up Shoya for bullying Nishiyima. I think this guy was the antagonist all along..
For all the people saying Shouya deserved to be bullied because he was a bully , STOP. First off , As someone who has been bullied literally from preschool all the way past high , I would NEVER wish the same on even the worst of my bullies. To be bullied is absolutely one of the worst feelings to go through and we were kids , kids did horrible things to each other because they don’t understand the scale of their actions, yes they should be punished but not in that way. For those who condone bullying when it’s happening to a bullying , you are just as bad. Bullying is not ok , no matter who it is. You should be ashamed for even saying that , there is no special circumstances. I’m disgusted by how many people are saying they are glad he went through that , he was a child. Him being bullied isn’t going to change what happen, it just means more people hurt. As they say , an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
I agree with you to some extent, but you could also argue that without Shouya being bullied he would still be the same person he was, and would never attempt to redeem his actions. If he never experienced that, the entire plot of Koe No Karachi wouldn’t have happened. Also haven’t you ever heard of karma, whatever you put out, comes back to you. You reap what you sow, if you’re going to be mean, and act like a jerk, you have to expect that it’s going to come back to you at one point.
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Shimada: She can't hear you.
also Shimada: Don't tell Ishida.
Exactly. Lmao
She can rid lips i though that was clear and even was pointed out
You do a fantastic job. This character, gosh hard to say - when he said "you have got to learn to mind your own business" - I'm trying to figure out where that came from. It could be a reflection on him; as he was always on the periphery zipping in to be the bug in people's ear on commenting on his perception to see how it plays out. It might suggest this practice sort of leaves the wreckage of things to others while leaving him unscathed when things played out badly. He knew when to take advantage of "the goings on" and when to toss people under the bus to save themselves. I'm not certain at all either.
At first when I didn't knew Shimada was a bully I was like I think he's my favorite character but when I saw he bullied ishida ....not that favorite character ...
Aesthetically speaking he has a pretty cool design. Haha.
its not the fact he stopped being friends shoya, but it was the fact he would continuously talk shi behind his back and made things worse for him. and he was a bystander, which is almost just as bad as the one bullying
Congratulations on 1K!!! And I only watched the movie and I loved it so much! I've really wanted to read the manga. So I didn't get to understand much of Shimada, other than him being an old friend that went sour. Thank you for making another amazing video!!
Zeifos Thank You!!! I'm glad you liked it! 😁 & I definitely Recommend the manga, it's a good read! 😊
Great vid, Koe no Kotachi is one of my favorite films
Thanks! Glad you liked it, & same! 😁
The Anime Dude No probs, I’m binge watching your other Koe no Kotachi vid.
The Anime Dude bro, will there be a sequel.
Great job dude its great to see your videos and channel getting the recognition it deserves. Well done bro
Wei's world1 Thanks Bro, Like always I appreciate the support! 😁
Wow that made me see the characters in a new light. I loved the manga and the movie after but your videos were really awesome for putting it all together. Thanks!
ubercase No Problem, glad you liked the video, & I really appreciate the support! 😊
I think these characters are very human and it's easy to forget how young they are. They're in middle school when the film starts so they're still developing mentally. They're children so when they encounter someone who they view as a hindrance to their life of course they're going to react as children. There's multiple sides to each of these characters. I think Shoko was the one who matured the fastest because she decided to keep forgiving everyone and trying to see things from their perspective instead of just reacting with anger. I think Shimada just reacted like most middle schoolers would. Very immature and not willing to own up to his own mistakes but the film hints at the fact that he's grown from that experience and became a better person.
what i saw in shimada's character is:
he had a strong set of rules to follow.like burdens on his shoulders unlike ishida.
amazed by the amount of freedom ishida has.
ishida is the leader for this amount of openness and for some characteristics he has as a result of that.
shimada has inner envy within.wishes to be as free.as ignorant sometimes.
he knows these things are wrong for he had a better education(may be family) still joins in bullying and enjoying it.
he had took the lead once they covered the fact that shimada hirose and the rest participated in bullying nishimya.
that was his chance to take the lead.
he cares of his future and has a dream to follow. he has to keep his reputation.
so he buries 'literally'any trace of the foul past
including ishida as a whole if it needs.
but he has this child within. missing the limited freedom he used to have.
and it-in his mind- maybe is linked to ishida.
I feel the same that, even though the film was 2 hours long, it still left out quite a lot. It could easily have been 3 hours and not been boring. I personally wanted to see more of Shoko's life beyond her suicide attempt. She apologises to Shoya for the pain she 'caused' but promises to help him live and then she's just, like, magically fine?
I think it would have been more wholesome to see both Shoko and Shoya's path to accepting themselves and allowing themselves to be happy, not just Shoya. It was a great ending and redemption story, but I still think Shoko's story felt unfinished. She was such an integral part in the story but we never really see her as a main character, she's almost a plot device for a lot of the film. I'd have appreciated an extra 15/20 minutes of Shoya being helped by Shoko to learn to love herself and not see herself as an inconvenience and to enjoy being part of a friendship group. I appreciate that it happens, she seems happy enough at the end, but how did that happen? She went from suicidal to a social butterfly off-screen (she's part of the friendship group and going out with them and it seems perfectly natural for her to be there) and I'd love to know how that process happened. I get it's mainly Shoya's 'redemption arc' but still, it's weird to have two characters attempt suicide, both survive and then only show us how one of them turned it around. I'm sure it's more detailed in the manga that I do not have the time or patience to read, but it would have been nice to see Shoko's life going from suicide to acceptance and happiness. It just kinda happens in the background.
Yeah I would love to see Nishimiya doing well. She was such an unpenetrable character, the fact she was deaf isolated her even more. Even her sister didn´t quite uderstand what she thinks, and Ueno hated her (among other things) for never being honest and hiding behind a fake smile. I really wanted to give her a hug and I would love to see her being able to open to people, love herself and stand up for herself. And I would love to watch that process. The anime is much more bitter because we didn´t have a chance to watch this
I know Ueno was a bitch, but Nishimiya needed someone like her in her life, just a little less bitchy, or perhaps in other stage of her life
MY CONCLUSION:.
*SHIMIDA IS HOT AS HELL*
YES
@@angry2270 we both simperss 💅
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Totally 😌💅
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And proud to be 😌💅
YES HE'S SO CUTE
Congratulations on 1000 subs! You deserve it. Once again the thoroughness and uniqueness shows. Can't wait to see what's next! As for what I think about Shimada, I honestly feel like he followed the bullying because he didn't know how to walk away. Then he distances himself when he saw an opportunity. I don't feel like there needs to be reconciliation between the two because there is bad blood now. Not everything that is broken needs to be fixed, akd that's okay. But they don't have to be hostile towards each other. The texts where he put a "lol" in feel like he was just reinforcing how he wants to remain distant from Ishida. That also explains why he didn't want Ishida to know about Shimada saving him. He probably doesn't feel comfortable being close with him after all that's happened, and sees how Ishida feels the same way.
wolfgirlholo62 The texts with the Lol were Hirose, the fat one. Shimada only put that he finished the sample and didn't even mention it. Sorry for that confusion. Haha.
& Thank you once again for all your support! 😁😊
Kazuki had always been my favorite ❤ he may not have been included as much as other characters but i always drawn to him
How can You even Like him he is more worse than Miki and Ueno
He is the real Definition of Hypocrite
Honestly, I was reading the manga version after watching the movie because I want to know more about Shimada & Hirose. And I'm still disappointed.
Still, Shimada & Hirose have a big impact to the storyline.
I know why the writer probably kept them a mystery... but I gotta admit that sometimes I really hate unsolved mysteries even if they make sense.
so basically...Kazuki is just ✨attractive✨ for no reason 😄
In other words there's still another story to be told maybe a sequel, and I just subscribed
@@cheese6783 the movie didn't cover the entire manga, so a sequal is possible
thank you for doing an analysis on this fucker. everyone gives the girls who aren't nishimya tough shit, but this guy drove me nuts.
Your analisis makes me want to see more of the series just so I can understand the characters better.
My heart dropped the moment shoko wanted to kill herself
I guess i felt sympathetic and i also couldn't show my voice.
Even though I've seen the movie, that could've been a huge spoiler to someone who hasn't
天道 why would someone who hasn’t be watching this if they didn’t want spoilers lol
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Idk, ask them
It's sad that ppl call him evil just bcoz he blamed shoya for shouko's bullying in middle school and forgot that he actually tried to stop ishida from bullying shouko in manga in the beginning. He also advised him to join cram school for his better future. But ishida instead made kazuki skip his classes. So, Both of them were bad influences to each other. Also, there's no proof that Kazuki was going to bully ishida that night he fell in river. The only thing we saw IS KAZUKI SAVING ISHIDA'S LIFE BY JUMPING IN THE RIVER. HE DESERVES SECOND CHANCE TOO LIKE ISHIDA DID. WE SAW ISHIDA SUFFERINGS THAT'S WHY WE FELT SYMPATHY FOR HIM BUT WE NEVER SAW KAZUKI'S SUFFERINGS THAT'S WHY PPL DON'T CARE ABOUT HIM UNFORTUNATELY. He's an interesting character and deserves redemption arc, it was good to see that Ishida wanted to clear misunderstandings between them in manga but writer never made that part.
1) Shimada is an accomplice in bulling Nishimiya, he shares the blame with all the others.
2) He and Hirose just happened to rescue him, since they were following him.
Did... did you actually watch the video, or did you just drop in to comment this without watching? 😂 I never stated that he was free of blame or that he wasn’t a bully. Also, I delve into the fact that they were following him and everything we know about why. 🤔
I suspect Kiesuke (the fat freind turned bully) had some closet resentments building up towards Shoya for a while but was to afraid to stand up for himself when they were "freinds".
I haven't read the manga but in the film Shoya was always the one rough housing him as kids. We assumed they were both cool with it but Kiesuke is clearly out of shape which might indicate depression and a lack of self confidence. Overweight kids are often at the bottom of the schools social hierarchy. Young Shoya took advantage of this by being more physically aggressive with him (and maybe verberally too). Preying on a weaker kid to make himself feel more dominant.
This is something that actually happens in unhealthy freindships in real life. Often someone who is lonely or weak will suck up being mistreated in a codependent relationship just so they can feel part of a group or have freinds just for the sake of having them. This is especially true with kids. This can build into closet anger and resentment overtime.
To be fair, Shoya might not have realized that Keisuke was feeling this way and just assumed they were god pals, but he was so horrible in that time of his life that Keusuke might have been to scared of him to say anything.
When Shoko appears Kiesuke joined in the bullying because he was just happy to no longer be Shoya main target. This was horrible for him to do buts it's real human behavior especially from someone who is pretty weak. There are cases of bullied kids becoming bullies themselves. He wanted to stay on Shoya good side who he feared and still a have group of freinds. Shoko being the new bottom of the school hierarchy was his way out.
When the entire class turns on Shoya Kiesuke realized he didn't have to be freinds with someone who was being mean to him anymore. Now that Shoya was at the bottom of the class soical hierarchy he no longer feared him. Smelling blood, he quickly turns on Shoya and we see him rough house him in a similar way Shoya did to him earlier. All his build up anger started coming out at that point and he became a bully himself to a very confused Shoya who thought they were freinds.
The reason why we see Keisuke write "lol" at Shoya fall (as this video showed me) is because unlike Kazuki, he still has a lot of anger directed at Shoya and still sees him as the mean freind that mistreated him. It also might have reminded him of when Shoya persured him to jump off the bridge which might of been a bad memory for him. Thus he couldn't help but see a little ironic karma. He still help save him because also trying to let the go of his own anger. Then again for all we know he might still be freinds with Kazuki because he still fears him and just wants to be on the good side of whoever is on the top of the social hierarchy.
I totally agree. Maybe Hirose was too scared to stand up to him and I notice that Ishida was rougher on him. I also think Shimada might've been a little scared too to stand up to Ishida and get bullied in return. And when the right moment came to turn on Ishida, they both did.
I'm fairly conflicted with him honestly. On one hand he wasn't much different than Ishida in terms of bullying and might have been worse. Though, on the other hand there might be unforeseen things like you said. Overall, without the parts we don't know I don't like him but I don't think I hate him too much.
I really wanted him to like apologize and meet with ishida at the end so that they can make up and be friends again
These analysis videos of A Silent Voice are excellent :-)
Thanks! Glad you like them! 😊
Great analysis, as always. And big plus for choosing ichiban no takaramono as background music at some point ;)
I had friend group entirely cut me out of their group once we graduated from Grade School to High school. I still to this day don't know why it happened. The only explanation that I ever received is because of where I went to school but even then to me it seemed like it was something else entirely. To me its weird because it wasn't like I was the odd man out. We hung out a lot as a group and I connected to some of the other guys separately from the group. I haven't spoken to them since then and I really don't care, I have made much better friends over time, and like Ishida it doesn't matter to me if I ever make amends or figure out why it happened the way it happened. Maybe one day but I cherish my current friends more than them.
Thanks for the video! The movie did not really explain the police scene that well and I was really confuse because he seemed to have a more important role than what was shown in the movie and after watching this I fully understand what was going on. Thanks!!!!
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Hey! Congrats for the 1000 subs!! keep with your passion and have alot of fun!
amazing vid but i spolied to myself XD
still amazing job and keep going
I just wanna say how
*His sleeves looks HAWT*
As much as I hate what Kazuki used to do.. HES CUTE AND HES BEBE
Alright! Where's 2! We need 2! And I expect to see Kazuki and Shoya become friends again! Or at least show up way more then he did before. He's one of my favorites! I have a crush on him, too, lol.
I request Maria
😂😂Jk I love these, your analysis is so interesting but at the same time soo detailed. Like how? I swear your videos are the only ones that has never made me want click off the video. Love you man. Your voice is so soothing too aha! 😂😂
Miya Thanks, glad you like them! 😊
I'm personally not a big fan of my voice and struggle with it a lot, so comments like this are a huge confidence booster. 😁💯
Miya Maria Analysis: My god she's adorable.
The End. 😂
Miya
I think Maria and her parents should also be analyzed.
Thomas Fernandez Her mom (Ishida's sister) never shows up once, but nevertheless she seemed to have a huge influence on Ishida and who he was in the future. Pedro (I think that was it? I'm terrible with names.) seems chill, I like him.
The Anime Dude she did showed up plenty of times, especially in scenes at Ishida house (most of the time just her legs, typical KyoAni and their leg fetish). We just never see her face.
Btw she (surprisingly) have dialogues as well, she's voiced by Hamaguchi Ayano in the movie (I'm assuming she's a new seiyuu), for a faceless character with some lines of dialogues, she somehow still have less screentime than Maria and Pedro (who have little to no line at all), a very intriguing character I'd say.
I think you hit the nail on the head there (except the bit about feeling guilty about the bullying, maybe)
haydn calvert Yea, he may not, we don't know. Haha. Aside from Kawai, I feel like it'd be normal for most people to feel guilty about something like that, especially if you used to be friends with the person. Exhibit A: Ueno. Then again, I could be completely wrong.
I think he is some handsome, isn't he ?
My theory is that Shimada was afraid that he might get bullied himself if he were to stop bulling Shouko, and that would be why he tried to stop Shouya from bulling her, but still continued to bully Shouko when everyone else was. This was something that I went through myself in elementary. I also think that the reason he blamed everything on Shouya was either because he actually felt like it was all his fault because he tried to stop him, or he didn’t want to get in trouble with his parents that seem to be strict. I think that Shimada bullied Shouya because he didn’t want to be associated with him anymore because he might get in trouble with his parents if were to do so, and also bullying someone is an easy way to get someone away from you. After all, Shimada was still an asshole in elementary, but I can understand why he did the things he did.
Also, I immediately recognized Kenichi's OST there. Very nice!
Fun fact : my cousin was in this movie and had 1 line
What character where they
@@celestiaplayz7116 hirose, but still i think it was pretty cool
@@shikuo6810 oh that is cool
@@celestiaplayz7116 indeed
Ngl when I first watched the movie
He was my favourite character design idk why just do
Keeping the reunion with Shimada and Hirose unwritten makes it mysterious to the audience the same way each other character’s unique chapter is mysterious to Shoya when he’s in the hospital.
Awesome job
Thanks!
The Anime Dude you did good
(havent watched the video yet)
shimada always looked so lifeless and acted so dully it made me think that he could possibly have been neglected
also it looked like he realized he messed up cause even when he helped ishida out he felt too guilty to actually talk to him
i could even say that although he's a side character that barely even pops up i feel like his character development was way better than that one black haired chick
Beautiful ❤️
I love this movie SO MUCH. It’s my favorite movie. There were many things that threw me off in the movie/ got me hella mad but I still hope they make a second movie and MAYBE make a TV Series
Great video! This is my most fav anime which has made me cry for about a day, and I feel like this anime should have more attention, this is the beST ANIME THAT HAS EVER EXISTED..
I hated this dude bullying a bully doesn't make you less guilty than the actual bully
Pls, why is he hot
Hi! Thank you so much for this video. I have both read the manga, and then, watched the movie, but even after that, I couldn't quite come up with a convincing theory to understand why Shimada acted like he did.
Your personal thoughts are really interesting, though I didn't have the feeling that Shimada honestly felt (even a bit of) regret when he met Ishida at the amusement park again (though, I'd like to regain faith in his 'humanity'). Why? Because his smile didn't reflect any sincerity for me.
Sure, maybe he tried to apologize for what he did when he followed Ishida just before the fall in the pond scene, however I still don't get why he bullied Ishida when they were in Elementary school. If we admit that at some point, he didn't consider him a friend anymore, it still isn't enough a reason for his doing, at least to me. At first, I had thought that he wanted to get back at Ishida for all the 'pushing' he did towards Hirose and him (e.g. the courage test and the "forced" 'come play video games at my house' thing), although he understood that it was time for them to grow up. Likewise, Hirose also used the same wrestling(?) position to bully Ishida like Ishida had used to do to him.
However, I still don't think that this alone justifies their acts.
As someone in the comments section pointed out, why would Shimada somehow "go out of his way" to become what he himself criticized all along? Why would he bully if he said himself that Ishida should stop it? My guess so far is, as you said, the assumption that as his parents probably pressured him to study more, get better chances to go to a prestigious school and succeed in life, he may have let the stress build up to the point where he couldn't cope with it anymore. Thus he found a convenient way to release that stress by harassing Ishida. Which, btw, wouldn't be surprising since it's quite common in Japan.
Maybe, the one thing that I can't accept is the fact that he seemed to be quite dull/weak as a character (despite of his intelligence, he didn't seem to play a big role in the former trio), he didn't stand out at all at first, but afterwards he somehow managed to become a "leading" figure in his class as he dragged all of Ishida's old friends on his side to bully Ishida. Furthermore, nobody dared to go against him (though Ueno didn't want to play a part in it, she was still kinda forced to write mean things on Ishida's table too). Like, did anyone see that coming? Either Shimada was a fake friend all along or he's just a really good manipulator and decided to "get real" as he got fed up with Ishida's childish play.
Your video helped me get a better grasp of his point of view, but I feel like there's still a missing piece of the puzzle. Ofc, it was probably meant to be so by the mangaka, thus all of us trying to figure it out, yet I'm the type of person that likes when a story ends in a way where everything gets cleared out.
Well, what do you think about it?
Girls could not care about his personality because his looks attracts them in these comments
his like one of the best anime face
Thank you, this video was very insightful. =)
Np, glad you liked it! 😁
I should check this anime out.