These look very useful, if they can figure out how to bring down the price to the point of affordability for individual workers and tradesman with mass manufacturing, I can see this being an enormous future market.
But if the price is brought down, won't the quality suffer? These are safety devices, if they were to suddenly fail, someone will get injured. I also suspect the long term durability of these devices is compromised, due to requiring them to have less weight and fit around the body. Safety has its up front costs, the companies need the right incentives to bite the bullet and pay the price - right now they can often treat workers as disposable and thus externalise the resulting costs.
@@SianaGearz economy of scale. The cost per unit is cheaper when you make a thousand compared to a hundred. Also, R+D costs get reflected usually in the first units, making them more expensive than later ones.
I worked in a warehouse as a loader/unloader for a little over a year, and my one complaint about this system is probably the hardest one to remedy: it's too large. Sometimes, it is required to fit into a really cramped spot in order to be able to move boxes out of the container. Fitting in those spots without aids was difficult enough, imagine having something that doesn't compress mounted on your hips and back? Nevertheless, I do think it has a very good future in the logistics industry, because I know my coworkers would agree that it gets really tiring really fast, no matter how well conditioned you are.
I suspect that a well designed system with form fitting springs and a stretchy textile could probably take some of the stress off the back without being overly bulky.
This is really cool actually. If companies where liable for the damage or health costs an employee faces down the line I feel they would be more will to invest in something like this tech. That is preventative and takes care of an employee during the hard labor. Thanks for your lovely content as always!
I am reminded of the Hawthorne experiments carried out in the 1920's. Management needed extra lighting for an industrial reason and they noted an increase in productivity that could not be explained untill they interviewed the workers. The workers attributed the improved lighting to a caring management and so responded in a positive. I think it's the same with airconditioning - it's often used for commercial reasons but a side effect is the improved comfort levels of workers. This tends to have a spinoff with an increase with productivity.
4:38 Hold up a moment, some of those smaller and less expensive support systems look pretty useful and don't appear to need individual fitting. The thumb seems highly situational, but could be kept in a toolbox/bag until needed. The wrist looks like with just a bit of modification could be good for mitigating RSI from computer work. Long standing tasks are very common and while I've seen things akin to the back before it's a solid product. And i'm sorely tempted to get the neck myself to see if it can help my own neck issues, again situational but also simple enough to just keep around rather than wear constantly. I think as this tech gets more refined we'll see more hybrid systems for lifting and overhead work, with a passive mode like these for medium weights and an active powered mode for really heavy stuff, combined with secondary passive systems like the back and wrist support into a comprehensive motion assist system.
The thumb one actually had me thinking about getting some at work. I think I've literally thought about trying to make something like that, as I've done tasks that would have really benefitted from something like that, especially heavily repeated things. It seems unassuming, but you'll indeed want one if you run into one of those situations.
the thumb one looks like the futuristic version of that thing seamstress wear to not prick their finger which I would like to have because those thumb bucket thingy is uncomfortable af, that price point is a bit oof tho
On your point about manual/grunt workers being underprioritized, you're entirely correct. Which is why unions are so incredibly important, to not be eaten up and spit out by an industry who will simply use your body until it breaks.
If they could combine the back and shoulder rigs, these would have been invaluable when I was loading AIM-9 missiles to the wingtips of F-16s in 1990. I'm fairly certain that some of my back problems today must have been affected by that strain in my youth.
As a self-employed builder contractor with lifelong back problems, I would have loved to have this option when I was actively working (now retired), however, at those prices, I never could have afforded one. Hopefully, in the future prices will come down for the next generation of workers.
Most of the painters and drywall finishers I know have suffered shoulder injuries and many have required surgery. The Paexo Shoulder could have prevented many of those injuries. I've been able to avoid those injuries by paying attention to ergonomics and changing tasks or quitting for the day when soreness became an issue. An exoskeleton might have increased my productivity. As for the cost of the devices will worker's comp pay for an exoskeleton for a worker to return to work faster or reduce premiums for businesses that use them since it should reduce claims?
@@private2809 Not really, as the fit and fitment leaves much to be desired with normal fluctuations of girth throughout the day, and sometimes have to be incorporated with other equipment such as duty belts, etc. Not to mention they aren't issued nor are required as a part of a uniform, almost as if they are purposely being made as difficult to use as possible so less is spent on them. Much like strong authentication, if the solution is worse than the problem, it won't be used.
@@AdamA-pm3yn weren't you JUST criticizing folks for equating micro aggressions with genocide? 🤔 why does disagreement with you justify self defense? Words can hurt you but not others?
Very nice video. I think these devices will eventually become mandatory throughout a wide range of industries. I can also imagine some of these products being used in office environments as well, so as to promote proper ergonomics.
Thanks Belinda - very informative. I understand, I think, why the units are so expensive as the manufacturer must take on quite a risk of people claiming the devices contributed to an injury.
Insurance per part in situations like these is expensive. But I imagine most of the cost is in small batch manufacturing and R&D, insurance should not cost more then 50 USD, thats what I was paying per unit on motorcycle forks, and I was producing less then a hundred units a year. That's something that really jacks up the price.
I could see the skeletons. Being used in germany. The smaller things maybe in the usa amongst private sales or bigger companies like amazon. The prices are still a bit much. Maybe if a factory were to order 1k + units.. The price could drop.
What about for building with concrete blocks? I've often thought that this job would be a nice job if the blocks were not so heavy. In Ireland a standard concrete block is 20kg. And lightweight blocks are still too expensive. Are these exoskeletons any good for building a concrete block house?
I see these as efficiency booster rather than prevention. Once company realizes workers can carry 80 pounds like it was 40, 80 pounds it is. Similar strain on body before, but doing twice the work
Yeah it will be up to the company to know the exoskeleton can handle 80lbs BUT day it can only safely do 60. Some arbitrary sub max limit so that the workers have some room for comfort.
it will exponentially increase injuries away from work. sense they spent the entire day supported. after leaving work, they no longer have that support. every day the body will grow weaker, and more reliant on these tools, thus, making the body weak and greatly susceptible to injury and even disease. but hey, a billionaires bottom line will increase.
The major flaw in all of this is the failure to examine the system as a whole. it is considered only from the viewpoint of engineering and not as a combination of biological and mechanical systems. If a worker were to use such devices for a long time, they would experience muscle atrophy in several areas, and soon the benefits of the support system would wane as their strength is reduced due to reduced work loads and stresses. Worse yet, their atonic musculoskeletal system would be in poor condition due to the lack of use and require extensive rehabilitation much like someone who was not using such devices, but they would also lack strength, flexibility and endurance in many of the compensatory musculature which is normally present even in relatively sedentary persons. These devices are great, they have a role in treatment and recovery, prevention of injury and training, but they should not be used all the time, much like overuse of antibiotics can be detrimental. For example, if a worker becomes tired they could use one to assist and prevent injury. If they are injured they can use one in a return to work program where the support is gradually reduced to train their muscles again.
These are light springs, they are not going to cause that much atrophy, you are still moving the items yourself with the same muscle groups and it isn't going to make any task that much easier or remove so much of the load from any one muscle that you couldn't do the task without assistance after becoming acclimated to the system.
I am an electrician that does heavy work above my head frequently. Although I often wish I had access to something like this, the trend in construction is to make anything that could potentially reduce insurance claims mandatory 100% of the time. I hope I am wrong, but I expect that these will permeate the industry eventually and workers like me will be forced to always use something for "safety" that only applies to a minority of tasks I do, rather than being equipment that I am able to opt to use as needed. I think of it as akin to safety harnesses, which are completely necessary for many tasks, but are also now required by contractors as a blanket catch all to problems. In the end we end up forced to wear an uncomfortable harness in places where the harness will not actually help at all even during a fall such as on an 8ft step ladder.
I can 100% see every warehouse worker wearing one of these for moving boxes. Not only does it reduce injury, it would improve performance by reducing exhaustion.
@Saad Rehman That true for working on a ledge or raised platform. OSHA specifically states that step ladders are exempt from this requirement. Yet, on jobsites where there is frequently very few places to tie off I am now being required by contractors to tie off on an 8ft ladder because the contractors believe it will mitigate insurance claims. In reality, either contractors need to supply lifts to do the work or we are stuck arguing for hours upon hours over what is safe. Typically, this results in me climbing on the ladder because there is absolutely nothing to tie off to, and the contractor getting a lift requires a change order to the job bid.
I agree with your reasoning but it’s another example of fire or a double edge sword. This technology can be a great benefit if used with Character and common sense.
It kinda sounds to me whilst marketed to reduce costs to employers we still need a worker's revolutions for these to be used as compassionate aids rather than forced upon people as a way to avoid paying sick leave/liability
Tell ya what, Lou. Go stand just 3 rungs up onto a ladder, and lean sideways until the ladder loses balance. Once your out of surgery, come back and try and repeat what you just said about how harnesses at low heights are more of a hindrance.
I don't see how they justify the price they are asking either. None of the materials are special, the engineering behind it is pretty standard, and the fitting system isn't much different from a framed backpack. I know R&D has to be pretty extensive, but it seems that being able to sell more units at a lower price would cover those expenses better than low volume high price.
Exactly. You could hire 2 or 3 temp workers for what it costs to get one guy back on the job. I don't know about you, but I can't make $6,900 in a month and a half, lifting boxes!
@@Pulsarr1 My suspicion is that they have to be certified as medical devices rather than safety devices. No matter where you are in the world getting anything medical approved is a long, slow, expensive process and that's being reflected in the price.
@@Pulsarr1 It's the IP laws. Designed to give a monopoly not to the inventor but to whoever holds the rights. And monopolies allow prices to be hiked all the way up to the limit of the customer purchasing power, irrespective of cost. They don't need to justify the costs. Any country claiming to have a capitalist market-driven economy should get rid of these laws which break the market self-balancing (Adam Smith's "invisible hand").
Scalability is the first question that comes to mind for me. Spending thousands to optimize low-skill labor jobs doesn't make a lot of sense. Because these were shown to be adjustable per-person, and being entirely mechanical, what's stopping the hardware from being mass-produced while having a smaller team (1-3 technicians) trained off-site or online to properly maintain the equipment in industrial applications? Amazon warehouses come to mind; the insurance claim savings over time surely are worthwhile.
My first thought: what about muscle atrophy over time? I can see why they'd seem like a great idea at first - I have constant back pain myself - but improving the muscle strength and tone seems a better answer than just reducing the load. I agree with several comments below that mentioned the possibility of abuse, over extending one's load capacity; wouldn't that just mean more serious injuries?
Ok since no one will say it. I will keep this scientific. B, you have an absolutely fantastic female form. There done and dusted. Happy I found this channel.
I like them but I agree with Belinda that the big problems will be that bosses won't pay that much to look after "grunt" workers and also that one guy can't pick up the unit from another guy. They have to be custom fit.
These exo-skeletons are used in Death Stranding. I had wondered where the idea had come from - now I know :D Truthfully I am hoping to see these devices rolled out for construction workers, nurses and anyone else who does a lot of heavy lifting. Could even have some uses for soldiers perhaps?
Are you able to release a longer version of you testing the exoskeleton? I think it would be interesting to hear what they were saying about it while you used it. I can see the benefit of wearing this to protect yourself on the job but would wearing gear similar to this weaken the muscles from long term use? I would think it might be similar to those posture correctors that hold your spine in a good posture, but since you aren't using your muscles to hold the posture you are actually weakening your muscles and hurting your posture. I would think a similar effect would happen but I haven't ever worn an exoskeleton nor have I done any research. Thank you for another amazing video.
Do they have a cross between the first two (back and shoulder) that would be great for R.T. (x-ray) to move patients to the xray table from the gurny and back
Thank you so much for posting this! As someone who did field work for a few years, I'm super hopeful this tech ends up going to forestry crews. There's so much unnecessary strain that could be reduced, and since some forestry work is done in areas so remote they can't bring in power tools they would be perfect for those crews. I had to be in occupational and physical therapy for years as a result of my two years in the field, so my only thought really is that custom colors would make a huge difference on morale. (I may have yelled "make them hot pink!" at the end, because everyone would go for neon gear that can be spotted at a distance.) I'm so curious to see where this tech goes!
@@whytepizza Thats fair. It appears that there are a bunch of japanese companies working on ex-skeletons much like a gundam suit. Perhaps the idea of a whole body suit held them back from being first to make something usable, as these augmentations are far simpler than whole body integration suits. One might argue that things like excavators are the first examples of primitive gundam suits. You completely get inside it and control it with your body, its just this particular gundam suit is only an arm :P
As a tall surgeon working with almost always smaller surgeons, my back is a mess. I’ve got 27 years to go to retirement. This kind of thing could be a career saver, at least a career extender for some people.
Cool stuff. I've seen many powered exoskeletons for a variety of purposes, but this is the first non-powered I've seen. I'm curious why they didn't include an extension down to the feet to take stress off the knees as well.
For construction these would be awesome. Having held a drill over my head while bracing drywall with my other arm, something that would hold my arm in place would have been a dream.
I think one problem with devices like this is they can cause injuries. If used correctly they definitely prevent way more injuries than they cause. But that one person that gets injured do to the device that would not have been injured if they were without it becomes very vocal. I see balance as one of the issues along with snagging clothing and such like you mentioned.
I really appreciate you checking this out. I love building things, but I have health problems that make it impossible for me to be a professional carpenter because my muscles tend to fail easily. My hope is that with a technology like this, I could build full-time again, but of course I am wary of the hype around new tech products. I know that you will be honest and look at both the pros and cons of building technologies, and it is very encouraging to hear from an unbiased source that these suits may soon be within my reach and that they may actually work.
The exoskeleton seems really neat. Any advantage you get in lifting, you are providing by "charging" the springs on lowering. Thus evening out your work. I like it. The other equipment seems like overpriced versions of already available equipment.
When I see this gear, I wonder about the impact on your ankles from the probably increased strain on those due to the easier lifting of weights. Nor convinced about the many hooks extruding from your body. There are definitely some trade offs to be made here.
the hooks could be a danger in factory or warehouse environments near industrial machinery, and would make injuries much worse in most cases. The strain on your legs is minimal. The body is designed to hold that kind of weight, the weak part is your back.
I think the only increased strain will be the added weight of the assistive units themselves. I don't think it is intended to increase your lifting ability - its intended to prevent injury on work that you would normally do. Having said that, I'm sure some will abuse that and lift or work on things that really are beyond their strength and hence injure themselves elsewhere like ankles as you point out.
You hit the nail on the head... those who a company will spend money on aren't the ones who will need it most. The other thing is I bet many workers may not like using those. I mean seeing the Hilti logo may sway some, but on most job sites that item would take an inadvertent beating. I would love to hear from field workers to find out how many (units like these) survived a few months. Also, better for you in the long run doesn't always translate to use (as you mentioned I believe). The needing to be careful in everything you do would hinder productivity for most. It may not be there yet, but it could be a great thing down the road as the company gets the feedback. First change they need to make is encasing all parts that they can (even in fabric) so that the parts won't degrade or snag things.
How many of these products could be worn at the same time? If I completely encase myself, will my boss finally see ME as worthy of investment? At $1k a week, it seems more likely that I'll be taking a pay cut, since the boss is mitigating injuries at such great cost. (Just kidding: they'll actually just want more work, until I get the injuries anyway. That's how Capitalism functions.)
So you can RENT that thing for over $60k a year? That seems completely insane. If that was a one of purchase for $6k I would say it's far too expensive to ever be a useful thing. But you only get it for a 6 week rental. That's a terrible value.
I have 2 issues with your conclusions. #1. The majority of the cost is not in the initial purchase, but in the maintenance and up keep. Employees would have to be trained in how to use them properly, safety would have to constantly inspect each device to ensure it isn't broken or working incorrectly, and probably the biggest issue: employees don't take care of their equipment. I see this all the time for tools in the
Problem is most companies with employees doing manual labor aren’t going to be willing to spend almost $7000 for the privilege of renting these for 6 weeks for 3 employees.
This seem more legit. Just the images you can see it provides support and refuces pressure. There is a Kickstarter product call "sports mate 5". I'm not seeing any basic elements of how it will takes the pressure the joints, back and spine. With this product I can see how its stabalising certain areas. This type of design will even help someone that have injured a muscle to move more freely. But it is too expensive. The special bandages i use is cheaper. But the design of this product have many useful applications.
Tell me more about what they can do for knees. We're told to lift with our knees, not our back, but if you have bad knees, that can be impossible. Both my husband and I have had bad knees from birth, and they are just getting worse.
LOL @ "help us transition to robotic automation" Who is "us"? In other words, eliminate employees altogether to cut costs. You'll be crying the blues once RUclips figures out how to replace you with automation too.
The first product, i can see how it will help me maintain posture a few years ago when I injured my back and my knee. The frames of the product really shiws what it will support. unlike the kick starter product, i feel the kick starter product us a scam. I hope this product will become cheaper and easily available. This can help many people to perform regular task after an injury.
That's twice now you've been within 20 miles of me! And now, for the next challenge - take on a 15 foot alien xenomorph queen while wearing one of those!
At the current prices these things will not make a huge impact. I know research is expensive and they have to make back the investment but that's their problem and upper management in the companies that are their potential customers are just as Belinda said not going to be easily convinced that they should invest that kind of money to make life better for their lowest tier workers. Unfortunately for companies like Ottobock it's just a matter of time before other companies will start releasing products that build on the research and products that Ottobock and other companies that pioneers this market has shown, and without having to do the low level research they can sell their products at a much lower price. Sorry, but unless they blatantly infringe on patents that's how it will play out. And skirting patent law is something a lot of lawyers do for a living. "Grunt" workers are still often seen as a commodity. Use them and throw them away when they start to slow down. Sounds ugly but there is a lot of truth in that. So until the cheap "copies" turn up I don't expect to see many of these a hundred and something dollar thumb protectors. And those exoskeletons? Nope, not likely. Just as an aside I remember going to a trade show many many, say at least thirty five years ago. There they had some amazingly effective solutions for lifting heavy boxes, laying concrete tiles and so on. It was basically a system using a vacuum hose connected to a grip that in turn was connected to a wire going to a over head arm. There was remote controlled winch that could lift or lower the handle, and everything was controlled from the handle. So slap the handle down on what you wanted to lift. Thumb the button that activated the vacuum. Lift the handle and the winch lifter it and whatever was held to the vacuum cup. It was fast. They had a small woman throw down concrete tiles weighing more than fifty pounds each using one hand and in a ridiculous tempo, then she went back and stacked them all again on the truck bed without breaking a sweat. They had several different "heads" for different materials and shapes. Since then I've seen exactly one of these being used in the wild. And it was used for laying concrete tiles. Anyone who saw the demonstration could see that it was saving a lot of work, and it wasn't even that complicated. The controls were incredibly intuitive. The grip had a hoop that you gripped. Lift it and the winch lifted the load. Lower it and the winch lowered the load. They had a couple of models for how to engage the vacuum. One was a lever on the grip that you had to press and when you let go the vacuum was shut off and the load released. Another had a switch you flipped on or off. They had different versions of the boom the load hung from. The simplest was passive while they also had a more advanced model that had motors controlling the boom. This was pretty mature tech and the one time I saw it used for real it worked really well. One person were able to lift all the concrete tiles and place them faster than the coworkers were able to prepare for the next. And that was without risking any back injuries or even breaking a sweat while doing so. Sure there were probably some problems we didn't see at that demonstration. But given time those should have been fixable. And yet I have no idea where this tech went after that.
Am 74 and have spinal stenosis and one slightly bulging disc. This sounds like a great idea but how much for just one for me so I can walk and stand for longer than 5 minutes?
Yeah companies seem less likely to spend this money on "grunt" workers. If they did, they would likely want ROI not including or undervaluing insurance in that calculation. Which would mean they would want more productivity, which would lead to the exploitation that you weren't so cynical about. Remember often companies want to make their money back in 6 to 9 months.. likely that would happen on insurance claim savings alone.
you know what else would help people and prevent workplace injuries? daily exercise. also, its free. a lot of this, will only make people weaker, and will increase injuries at home. but hey, at least its not effecting a billionaires bottom line.
For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction... If forces are being transferred... They are being transferred somewhere... One has to wonder about pressure points and circulation... Would be the obvious concern
Shouldn't the exoskeleton go all the way to ground to relieve stress on the body? Sure it takes weight off your back but you are still supporting the weight with your legs.
On an assembly line for a mass produced product, there should be no overhead work, no dangerous weights to lift, no awkward poses; these are all solved issues, if you visit one of the better factories, you can see measures being implemented successfully to eliminate all of these, without strapping the worker in. Companies which don't implement such measures will also not put in several times more money that it takes to outfit workers with relatively complex safety equipment. The manufacturing quality and good maintenance of safety gear is critical, as someone will get injured when these devices fail, but they're also slimmed down and minified in weight and the wear that they can endure compared to permanent machinery on the assembly line. Fail-safe manufacturing machinery design is fairly well-understood and poses less risk. I do hope such safety gear gets more use on ad-hoc work that isn't so automatable, but i also suspect the companies will want to externalise the costs somehow, like have the workers pay for the safety gear out of their own pocket, and it will create extra inequality in the workforce. The bigger problem is that often times, companies simply don't have enough incentive to protect their workers, they can treat them as disposable and externalise the long-term health costs - when incentives are right, solutions emerge.
LOL how much of the prohibitive costs is because of all the insurance cya? We could just have lower expectations of people and expect them to perform human tasks instead of super human tasks?
That price tag is high though. 6900 for 6 months, working a 40 hour job using one of these 100% of the time is 1040 hours in 6 months, which comes out to $6.64/hr, since you said they are designed per user....even if they weren't, only 1 person in a 24 hour period could wear one, which is still $1.58/hr cost on just inventory hold. There is absolutely no way the material costs that much to make, this is just leasing so they can keep making profits. They could EASILY sell this product for $15,000 and turn a profit, considering the fabric will probably break down every 2 years and need replacements regardless, but we are becoming a "non ownership" culture, and that's sad.
I think it has a lot of potential to prevent pain. My only caution is from prolonged use where the wearer my suffer from loss of strength as the body depends more on the rig.
I work in a factory where the packers have to lift 15-20 pound boxes constantly for 12 hours a day. After 3 years, even while trying my best to lift well every time I lift, I live in incredible back pain that affects pretty much every aspect of my life. If this technology progresses further it could be incredibly beneficial to people like me.
Sorry to hear about your back pain Thomas. Can you ask your employer to rotate you through other tasks, allow for packers to do warm up and cool down exercises before and after shifts and see a company physiotherapist? I also recommend stretching and the use of massage rollers in your free time. My last job was furniture removals, so I get it Mate. Also, if you’re packing onto pallets, pallet raisers can help you avoid some of the crouching, if your workplace has them. All the best.
These look very useful, if they can figure out how to bring down the price to the point of affordability for individual workers and tradesman with mass manufacturing, I can see this being an enormous future market.
But if the price is brought down, won't the quality suffer? These are safety devices, if they were to suddenly fail, someone will get injured. I also suspect the long term durability of these devices is compromised, due to requiring them to have less weight and fit around the body. Safety has its up front costs, the companies need the right incentives to bite the bullet and pay the price - right now they can often treat workers as disposable and thus externalise the resulting costs.
@@SianaGearz economy of scale. The cost per unit is cheaper when you make a thousand compared to a hundred.
Also, R+D costs get reflected usually in the first units, making them more expensive than later ones.
I worked in a warehouse as a loader/unloader for a little over a year, and my one complaint about this system is probably the hardest one to remedy: it's too large. Sometimes, it is required to fit into a really cramped spot in order to be able to move boxes out of the container. Fitting in those spots without aids was difficult enough, imagine having something that doesn't compress mounted on your hips and back? Nevertheless, I do think it has a very good future in the logistics industry, because I know my coworkers would agree that it gets really tiring really fast, no matter how well conditioned you are.
I suspect that a well designed system with form fitting springs and a stretchy textile could probably take some of the stress off the back without being overly bulky.
@@garethbaus5471 it does exist ! Biolift makes one in north america
This is really cool actually. If companies where liable for the damage or health costs an employee faces down the line I feel they would be more will to invest in something like this tech. That is preventative and takes care of an employee during the hard labor. Thanks for your lovely content as always!
It’s the case in some european countries…
I am reminded of the Hawthorne experiments carried out in the 1920's. Management needed extra lighting for an industrial reason and they noted an increase in productivity that could not be explained untill they interviewed the workers. The workers attributed the improved lighting to a caring management and so responded in a positive. I think it's the same with airconditioning - it's often used for commercial reasons but a side effect is the improved comfort levels of workers. This tends to have a spinoff with an increase with productivity.
@@ohasis8331 that's a neat sid effect.
4:38 Hold up a moment, some of those smaller and less expensive support systems look pretty useful and don't appear to need individual fitting. The thumb seems highly situational, but could be kept in a toolbox/bag until needed. The wrist looks like with just a bit of modification could be good for mitigating RSI from computer work. Long standing tasks are very common and while I've seen things akin to the back before it's a solid product. And i'm sorely tempted to get the neck myself to see if it can help my own neck issues, again situational but also simple enough to just keep around rather than wear constantly.
I think as this tech gets more refined we'll see more hybrid systems for lifting and overhead work, with a passive mode like these for medium weights and an active powered mode for really heavy stuff, combined with secondary passive systems like the back and wrist support into a comprehensive motion assist system.
The thumb one actually had me thinking about getting some at work. I think I've literally thought about trying to make something like that, as I've done tasks that would have really benefitted from something like that, especially heavily repeated things. It seems unassuming, but you'll indeed want one if you run into one of those situations.
the thumb one looks like the futuristic version of that thing seamstress wear to not prick their finger
which I would like to have because those thumb bucket thingy is uncomfortable af, that price point is a bit oof tho
On your point about manual/grunt workers being underprioritized, you're entirely correct.
Which is why unions are so incredibly important, to not be eaten up and spit out by an industry who will simply use your body until it breaks.
Solidarity forever
I feel like unions are a bandaid to a more substantial issue with humanity as a whole...
@@MRSketch09 I feel your closer to the mark but it may have to do more with why the Tudor age ended in the adoption and creation of modern Capitalism.
the old saying goes: you gotta spend exoskeletons to make exoskeletons
@@MRSketch09 i feel like a band aid is better than leaving it infected
If they could combine the back and shoulder rigs, these would have been invaluable when I was loading AIM-9 missiles to the wingtips of F-16s in 1990. I'm fairly certain that some of my back problems today must have been affected by that strain in my youth.
Wow, it’s so cool that the exoskeleton works without a power source. Clever engineering!
So, it basically works like the spring on my garage door. Neat.
As a self-employed builder contractor with lifelong back problems, I would have loved to have this option when I was actively working (now retired), however, at those prices, I never could have afforded one. Hopefully, in the future prices will come down for the next generation of workers.
Loved the text inserted about ignoring comments on your face mask. Can’t believe you get people like that
Most of the painters and drywall finishers I know have suffered shoulder injuries and many have required surgery. The Paexo Shoulder could have prevented many of those injuries. I've been able to avoid those injuries by paying attention to ergonomics and changing tasks or quitting for the day when soreness became an issue. An exoskeleton might have increased my productivity. As for the cost of the devices will worker's comp pay for an exoskeleton for a worker to return to work faster or reduce premiums for businesses that use them since it should reduce claims?
That is really great. Hopefully they can make it easy to use so people actually wear it. Back belts don’t even get used enough so this is an issue.
Back belts are easy to wear. It's mostly cultural. Folks make excuses to not use safety equipment.
@@private2809 Not really, as the fit and fitment leaves much to be desired with normal fluctuations of girth throughout the day, and sometimes have to be incorporated with other equipment such as duty belts, etc.
Not to mention they aren't issued nor are required as a part of a uniform, almost as if they are purposely being made as difficult to use as possible so less is spent on them.
Much like strong authentication, if the solution is worse than the problem, it won't be used.
@@AdamA-pm3yn what's wrong with being a pie? Folks like pies.
@@AdamA-pm3yn weren't you JUST criticizing folks for equating micro aggressions with genocide? 🤔 why does disagreement with you justify self defense? Words can hurt you but not others?
Very nice video. I think these devices will eventually become mandatory throughout a wide range of industries. I can also imagine some of these products being used in office environments as well, so as to promote proper ergonomics.
Thanks Belinda - very informative. I understand, I think, why the units are so expensive as the manufacturer must take on quite a risk of people claiming the devices contributed to an injury.
Insurance per part in situations like these is expensive. But I imagine most of the cost is in small batch manufacturing and R&D, insurance should not cost more then 50 USD, thats what I was paying per unit on motorcycle forks, and I was producing less then a hundred units a year. That's something that really jacks up the price.
I could see the skeletons. Being used in germany. The smaller things maybe in the usa amongst private sales or bigger companies like amazon.
The prices are still a bit much. Maybe if a factory were to order 1k + units.. The price could drop.
What about for building with concrete blocks? I've often thought that this job would be a nice job if the blocks were not so heavy. In Ireland a standard concrete block is 20kg. And lightweight blocks are still too expensive. Are these exoskeletons any good for building a concrete block house?
I see these as efficiency booster rather than prevention. Once company realizes workers can carry 80 pounds like it was 40, 80 pounds it is. Similar strain on body before, but doing twice the work
Thinking the same.
Yeah it will be up to the company to know the exoskeleton can handle 80lbs BUT day it can only safely do 60.
Some arbitrary sub max limit so that the workers have some room for comfort.
Which would still probably reduce the total number of injuries for a given amount of completed work.
sounds like you need a union.
it will exponentially increase injuries away from work. sense they spent the entire day supported. after leaving work, they no longer have that support. every day the body will grow weaker, and more reliant on these tools, thus, making the body weak and greatly susceptible to injury and even disease. but hey, a billionaires bottom line will increase.
the Movie Elysium in 2013 Matt Damon was wearing a full exoskeleton for fighting
The major flaw in all of this is the failure to examine the system as a whole.
it is considered only from the viewpoint of engineering and not as a combination of biological and mechanical systems.
If a worker were to use such devices for a long time, they would experience muscle atrophy in several areas, and soon the benefits of the support system would wane as their strength is reduced due to reduced work loads and stresses.
Worse yet, their atonic musculoskeletal system would be in poor condition due to the lack of use and require extensive rehabilitation much like someone who was not using such devices, but they would also lack strength, flexibility and endurance in many of the compensatory musculature which is normally present even in relatively sedentary persons.
These devices are great, they have a role in treatment and recovery, prevention of injury and training, but they should not be used all the time, much like overuse of antibiotics can be detrimental.
For example, if a worker becomes tired they could use one to assist and prevent injury.
If they are injured they can use one in a return to work program where the support is gradually reduced to train their muscles again.
My thoughts exactly! Thank you.
I agree. They should be used only for physiotherapy and regenerative purposes, not for industrial labour.
These are light springs, they are not going to cause that much atrophy, you are still moving the items yourself with the same muscle groups and it isn't going to make any task that much easier or remove so much of the load from any one muscle that you couldn't do the task without assistance after becoming acclimated to the system.
I am an electrician that does heavy work above my head frequently. Although I often wish I had access to something like this, the trend in construction is to make anything that could potentially reduce insurance claims mandatory 100% of the time. I hope I am wrong, but I expect that these will permeate the industry eventually and workers like me will be forced to always use something for "safety" that only applies to a minority of tasks I do, rather than being equipment that I am able to opt to use as needed. I think of it as akin to safety harnesses, which are completely necessary for many tasks, but are also now required by contractors as a blanket catch all to problems. In the end we end up forced to wear an uncomfortable harness in places where the harness will not actually help at all even during a fall such as on an 8ft step ladder.
I can 100% see every warehouse worker wearing one of these for moving boxes. Not only does it reduce injury, it would improve performance by reducing exhaustion.
@Saad Rehman That true for working on a ledge or raised platform. OSHA specifically states that step ladders are exempt from this requirement. Yet, on jobsites where there is frequently very few places to tie off I am now being required by contractors to tie off on an 8ft ladder because the contractors believe it will mitigate insurance claims. In reality, either contractors need to supply lifts to do the work or we are stuck arguing for hours upon hours over what is safe. Typically, this results in me climbing on the ladder because there is absolutely nothing to tie off to, and the contractor getting a lift requires a change order to the job bid.
I agree with your reasoning but it’s another example of fire or a double edge sword. This technology can be a great benefit if used with Character and common sense.
It kinda sounds to me whilst marketed to reduce costs to employers we still need a worker's revolutions for these to be used as compassionate aids rather than forced upon people as a way to avoid paying sick leave/liability
Tell ya what, Lou. Go stand just 3 rungs up onto a ladder, and lean sideways until the ladder loses balance. Once your out of surgery, come back and try and repeat what you just said about how harnesses at low heights are more of a hindrance.
Gravediggers approve 👍
I would love to see this in the consumer market as well. This could help prevent a lot of injuries in the home.
6:50 couldn't agree more. The prices must come down before these devices see significant user base.
I don't see how they justify the price they are asking either. None of the materials are special, the engineering behind it is pretty standard, and the fitting system isn't much different from a framed backpack. I know R&D has to be pretty extensive, but it seems that being able to sell more units at a lower price would cover those expenses better than low volume high price.
If they could make it for outdoor use, I'll take two with no further haggling. Alas, what we saw is only good for indoor use or warm weather.
Exactly. You could hire 2 or 3 temp workers for what it costs to get one guy back on the job. I don't know about you, but I can't make $6,900 in a month and a half, lifting boxes!
@@Pulsarr1 My suspicion is that they have to be certified as medical devices rather than safety devices. No matter where you are in the world getting anything medical approved is a long, slow, expensive process and that's being reflected in the price.
@@Pulsarr1 It's the IP laws. Designed to give a monopoly not to the inventor but to whoever holds the rights. And monopolies allow prices to be hiked all the way up to the limit of the customer purchasing power, irrespective of cost. They don't need to justify the costs.
Any country claiming to have a capitalist market-driven economy should get rid of these laws which break the market self-balancing (Adam Smith's "invisible hand").
Scalability is the first question that comes to mind for me. Spending thousands to optimize low-skill labor jobs doesn't make a lot of sense. Because these were shown to be adjustable per-person, and being entirely mechanical, what's stopping the hardware from being mass-produced while having a smaller team (1-3 technicians) trained off-site or online to properly maintain the equipment in industrial applications? Amazon warehouses come to mind; the insurance claim savings over time surely are worthwhile.
My first thought: what about muscle atrophy over time? I can see why they'd seem like a great idea at first - I have constant back pain myself - but improving the muscle strength and tone seems a better answer than just reducing the load. I agree with several comments below that mentioned the possibility of abuse, over extending one's load capacity; wouldn't that just mean more serious injuries?
Its a shame this will probably not see widespread use for a long long time. No boss wants to waste money on their minimum wage slaves...
One day we shall have our march…….
Ok since no one will say it. I will keep this scientific. B, you have an absolutely fantastic female form. There done and dusted. Happy I found this channel.
Sounds like highway robbery as far as cost though. Someone should come up with their own versions with maybe cheaper but heavier materials.
I like them but I agree with Belinda that the big problems will be that bosses won't pay that much to look after "grunt" workers and also that one guy can't pick up the unit from another guy. They have to be custom fit.
Amazon workers are already being exploited. At least now they can be exploited in comfort. 😁
WHAT??? That price is insane! There is no way those things are worth over $200/$300
These exo-skeletons are used in Death Stranding. I had wondered where the idea had come from - now I know :D
Truthfully I am hoping to see these devices rolled out for construction workers, nurses and anyone else who does a lot of heavy lifting. Could even have some uses for soldiers perhaps?
Are you able to release a longer version of you testing the exoskeleton? I think it would be interesting to hear what they were saying about it while you used it.
I can see the benefit of wearing this to protect yourself on the job but would wearing gear similar to this weaken the muscles from long term use? I would think it might be similar to those posture correctors that hold your spine in a good posture, but since you aren't using your muscles to hold the posture you are actually weakening your muscles and hurting your posture. I would think a similar effect would happen but I haven't ever worn an exoskeleton nor have I done any research.
Thank you for another amazing video.
I'm sure the tension could be dialed to allow some weight on the muscles without so much that it causes strain that creates injuries.
$7000 to *rent* puts these quite far away from the typically very, very low-paid workers they're meant to help.
At that ongoing cost, they could hire another employee to help with heavy lifting.
Ottobuttocks looks like the ultimate guteus support to the max!! It needs to vibrate with a heated function 😊
$2,300 each not to buy, but to rent for 6 weeks. That's more than some people earn!
Do they have a cross between the first two (back and shoulder) that would be great for R.T. (x-ray) to move patients to the xray table from the gurny and back
Thank you so much for posting this! As someone who did field work for a few years, I'm super hopeful this tech ends up going to forestry crews. There's so much unnecessary strain that could be reduced, and since some forestry work is done in areas so remote they can't bring in power tools they would be perfect for those crews. I had to be in occupational and physical therapy for years as a result of my two years in the field, so my only thought really is that custom colors would make a huge difference on morale. (I may have yelled "make them hot pink!" at the end, because everyone would go for neon gear that can be spotted at a distance.) I'm so curious to see where this tech goes!
This technology has a lot of potential can’t wait for it to get cheaper so it can be widely used by everyone so people won’t get hurt anymore :D
I'm amazed this wasn't invented by the Japanese first
Japan is still better at optimizing a design than truly creating something new.
Surprised by the ingenuity of german engineering? Lol
@@jek__ only surprised the Germans did the Gundam first
@@whytepizza Thats fair. It appears that there are a bunch of japanese companies working on ex-skeletons much like a gundam suit. Perhaps the idea of a whole body suit held them back from being first to make something usable, as these augmentations are far simpler than whole body integration suits. One might argue that things like excavators are the first examples of primitive gundam suits. You completely get inside it and control it with your body, its just this particular gundam suit is only an arm :P
This would have been awesome back when I worked for Toyota. Great vid as always, Belinda!
$450 for a fancy thimble?
As a tall surgeon working with almost always smaller surgeons, my back is a mess. I’ve got 27 years to go to retirement. This kind of thing could be a career saver, at least a career extender for some people.
Cool stuff. I've seen many powered exoskeletons for a variety of purposes, but this is the first non-powered I've seen. I'm curious why they didn't include an extension down to the feet to take stress off the knees as well.
Very cool! TY! However, cost way to much. Lowering the price would make it more attractive.
For construction these would be awesome. Having held a drill over my head while bracing drywall with my other arm, something that would hold my arm in place would have been a dream.
Let me be the first to welcome your new robot overlords
I think one problem with devices like this is they can cause injuries. If used correctly they definitely prevent way more injuries than they cause. But that one person that gets injured do to the device that would not have been injured if they were without it becomes very vocal. I see balance as one of the issues along with snagging clothing and such like you mentioned.
I really appreciate you checking this out. I love building things, but I have health problems that make it impossible for me to be a professional carpenter because my muscles tend to fail easily. My hope is that with a technology like this, I could build full-time again, but of course I am wary of the hype around new tech products. I know that you will be honest and look at both the pros and cons of building technologies, and it is very encouraging to hear from an unbiased source that these suits may soon be within my reach and that they may actually work.
i prefer yoga and lifting properly....
Feet apart when you lift, straddle the box,...feet together facing forward is WRONG
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These are pretty overpriced. You're paying 450 bucks for a 3d printed thumb? And 170 bucks for a wrist brace you can get at Walmart for 15?
The exoskeleton seems really neat.
Any advantage you get in lifting, you are providing by "charging" the springs on lowering. Thus evening out your work.
I like it.
The other equipment seems like overpriced versions of already available equipment.
When I see this gear, I wonder about the impact on your ankles from the probably increased strain on those due to the easier lifting of weights. Nor convinced about the many hooks extruding from your body. There are definitely some trade offs to be made here.
the hooks could be a danger in factory or warehouse environments near industrial machinery, and would make injuries much worse in most cases.
The strain on your legs is minimal. The body is designed to hold that kind of weight, the weak part is your back.
I think the only increased strain will be the added weight of the assistive units themselves. I don't think it is intended to increase your lifting ability - its intended to prevent injury on work that you would normally do. Having said that, I'm sure some will abuse that and lift or work on things that really are beyond their strength and hence injure themselves elsewhere like ankles as you point out.
You hit the nail on the head... those who a company will spend money on aren't the ones who will need it most.
The other thing is I bet many workers may not like using those. I mean seeing the Hilti logo may sway some, but on most job sites that item would take an inadvertent beating. I would love to hear from field workers to find out how many (units like these) survived a few months.
Also, better for you in the long run doesn't always translate to use (as you mentioned I believe). The needing to be careful in everything you do would hinder productivity for most.
It may not be there yet, but it could be a great thing down the road as the company gets the feedback. First change they need to make is encasing all parts that they can (even in fabric) so that the parts won't degrade or snag things.
So... does this mean there is now absolutely NO EXCUSE for the $70 upcharge for my checked bag being 5 pounds too heavy?
That price is ridiculous. No worry though. China will copy it and sell for much reasonable price. How about renting shovels. Or shoes. Or air.
I have been thinking about designing something similar to this to prevent injuries at work. I am still fairly young but already have some back pain.
Those prices are outrageous.
How many of these products could be worn at the same time? If I completely encase myself, will my boss finally see ME as worthy of investment? At $1k a week, it seems more likely that I'll be taking a pay cut, since the boss is mitigating injuries at such great cost. (Just kidding: they'll actually just want more work, until I get the injuries anyway. That's how Capitalism functions.)
So you can RENT that thing for over $60k a year?
That seems completely insane.
If that was a one of purchase for $6k I would say it's far too expensive to ever be a useful thing. But you only get it for a 6 week rental.
That's a terrible value.
I have 2 issues with your conclusions.
#1. The majority of the cost is not in the initial purchase, but in the maintenance and up keep. Employees would have to be trained in how to use them properly, safety would have to constantly inspect each device to ensure it isn't broken or working incorrectly, and probably the biggest issue: employees don't take care of their equipment. I see this all the time for tools in the
Problem is most companies with employees doing manual labor aren’t going to be willing to spend almost $7000 for the privilege of renting these for 6 weeks for 3 employees.
This seem more legit. Just the images you can see it provides support and refuces pressure. There is a Kickstarter product call "sports mate 5".
I'm not seeing any basic elements of how it will takes the pressure the joints, back and spine. With this product I can see how its stabalising certain areas.
This type of design will even help someone that have injured a muscle to move more freely. But it is too expensive. The special bandages i use is cheaper.
But the design of this product have many useful applications.
Tell me more about what they can do for knees. We're told to lift with our knees, not our back, but if you have bad knees, that can be impossible. Both my husband and I have had bad knees from birth, and they are just getting worse.
LOL @ "help us transition to robotic automation" Who is "us"? In other words, eliminate employees altogether to cut costs. You'll be crying the blues once RUclips figures out how to replace you with automation too.
The first product, i can see how it will help me maintain posture a few years ago when I injured my back and my knee.
The frames of the product really shiws what it will support. unlike the kick starter product, i feel the kick starter product us a scam.
I hope this product will become cheaper and easily available. This can help many people to perform regular task after an injury.
That's twice now you've been within 20 miles of me!
And now, for the next challenge - take on a 15 foot alien xenomorph queen while wearing one of those!
At the current prices these things will not make a huge impact. I know research is expensive and they have to make back the investment but that's their problem and upper management in the companies that are their potential customers are just as Belinda said not going to be easily convinced that they should invest that kind of money to make life better for their lowest tier workers. Unfortunately for companies like Ottobock it's just a matter of time before other companies will start releasing products that build on the research and products that Ottobock and other companies that pioneers this market has shown, and without having to do the low level research they can sell their products at a much lower price. Sorry, but unless they blatantly infringe on patents that's how it will play out. And skirting patent law is something a lot of lawyers do for a living.
"Grunt" workers are still often seen as a commodity. Use them and throw them away when they start to slow down. Sounds ugly but there is a lot of truth in that. So until the cheap "copies" turn up I don't expect to see many of these a hundred and something dollar thumb protectors. And those exoskeletons? Nope, not likely.
Just as an aside I remember going to a trade show many many, say at least thirty five years ago. There they had some amazingly effective solutions for lifting heavy boxes, laying concrete tiles and so on. It was basically a system using a vacuum hose connected to a grip that in turn was connected to a wire going to a over head arm. There was remote controlled winch that could lift or lower the handle, and everything was controlled from the handle. So slap the handle down on what you wanted to lift. Thumb the button that activated the vacuum. Lift the handle and the winch lifter it and whatever was held to the vacuum cup. It was fast. They had a small woman throw down concrete tiles weighing more than fifty pounds each using one hand and in a ridiculous tempo, then she went back and stacked them all again on the truck bed without breaking a sweat. They had several different "heads" for different materials and shapes. Since then I've seen exactly one of these being used in the wild. And it was used for laying concrete tiles. Anyone who saw the demonstration could see that it was saving a lot of work, and it wasn't even that complicated. The controls were incredibly intuitive. The grip had a hoop that you gripped. Lift it and the winch lifted the load. Lower it and the winch lowered the load. They had a couple of models for how to engage the vacuum. One was a lever on the grip that you had to press and when you let go the vacuum was shut off and the load released. Another had a switch you flipped on or off. They had different versions of the boom the load hung from. The simplest was passive while they also had a more advanced model that had motors controlling the boom.
This was pretty mature tech and the one time I saw it used for real it worked really well. One person were able to lift all the concrete tiles and place them faster than the coworkers were able to prepare for the next. And that was without risking any back injuries or even breaking a sweat while doing so. Sure there were probably some problems we didn't see at that demonstration. But given time those should have been fixable. And yet I have no idea where this tech went after that.
Am 74 and have spinal stenosis and one slightly bulging disc. This sounds like a great idea but how much for just one for me so I can walk and stand for longer than 5 minutes?
As an able bodied person....I don't wish to become a robot.
Disabled.... great tech!
Yeah companies seem less likely to spend this money on "grunt" workers. If they did, they would likely want ROI not including or undervaluing insurance in that calculation. Which would mean they would want more productivity, which would lead to the exploitation that you weren't so cynical about. Remember often companies want to make their money back in 6 to 9 months.. likely that would happen on insurance claim savings alone.
Haha.. Human becoming more like robots & Robots are becoming more like humans.
you know what else would help people and prevent workplace injuries? daily exercise. also, its free. a lot of this, will only make people weaker, and will increase injuries at home. but hey, at least its not effecting a billionaires bottom line.
nobody, and i repeat. NOBODY wants robotic workers taking our jobs
For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction... If forces are being transferred... They are being transferred somewhere... One has to wonder about pressure points and circulation... Would be the obvious concern
Shouldn't the exoskeleton go all the way to ground to relieve stress on the body? Sure it takes weight off your back but you are still supporting the weight with your legs.
On an assembly line for a mass produced product, there should be no overhead work, no dangerous weights to lift, no awkward poses; these are all solved issues, if you visit one of the better factories, you can see measures being implemented successfully to eliminate all of these, without strapping the worker in. Companies which don't implement such measures will also not put in several times more money that it takes to outfit workers with relatively complex safety equipment. The manufacturing quality and good maintenance of safety gear is critical, as someone will get injured when these devices fail, but they're also slimmed down and minified in weight and the wear that they can endure compared to permanent machinery on the assembly line. Fail-safe manufacturing machinery design is fairly well-understood and poses less risk.
I do hope such safety gear gets more use on ad-hoc work that isn't so automatable, but i also suspect the companies will want to externalise the costs somehow, like have the workers pay for the safety gear out of their own pocket, and it will create extra inequality in the workforce. The bigger problem is that often times, companies simply don't have enough incentive to protect their workers, they can treat them as disposable and externalise the long-term health costs - when incentives are right, solutions emerge.
LOL how much of the prohibitive costs is because of all the insurance cya? We could just have lower expectations of people and expect them to perform human tasks instead of super human tasks?
Freelancers might be more inclined to buy one of these, since it's their own body they're investing in and not that of a replaceable employee.
That price tag is high though. 6900 for 6 months, working a 40 hour job using one of these 100% of the time is 1040 hours in 6 months, which comes out to $6.64/hr, since you said they are designed per user....even if they weren't, only 1 person in a 24 hour period could wear one, which is still $1.58/hr cost on just inventory hold. There is absolutely no way the material costs that much to make, this is just leasing so they can keep making profits. They could EASILY sell this product for $15,000 and turn a profit, considering the fabric will probably break down every 2 years and need replacements regardless, but we are becoming a "non ownership" culture, and that's sad.
the $6900 is for 3 units
So, I'm sure there will never be a military or police state use for this in the future.......
with your black mask on, definitely look like a Superhero :)
*MOSTLY for war aggressors, not war victims.
I think it has a lot of potential to prevent pain. My only caution is from prolonged use where the wearer my suffer from loss of strength as the body depends more on the rig.
Amazing subject and discussion 👏
She is an amazing woman 👩 😍
Did you receive anything from them to incentivize you making this video?
need these at home depot, will protect my back from the 80lb quikcrete 😂
Interesting. Would be helpful to know if this was a sponsored video or not.
I thought you said “autobot company” for a minute and had to double check!
I work in a factory where the packers have to lift 15-20 pound boxes constantly for 12 hours a day. After 3 years, even while trying my best to lift well every time I lift, I live in incredible back pain that affects pretty much every aspect of my life. If this technology progresses further it could be incredibly beneficial to people like me.
Sorry to hear about your back pain Thomas. Can you ask your employer to rotate you through other tasks, allow for packers to do warm up and cool down exercises before and after shifts and see a company physiotherapist? I also recommend stretching and the use of massage rollers in your free time. My last job was furniture removals, so I get it Mate. Also, if you’re packing onto pallets, pallet raisers can help you avoid some of the crouching, if your workplace has them. All the best.
Thanks for doing the video. Neat product.
Belinda will also be battling Mimics in her spare time....
This should help with all the vax injuries.
i realy think most oif that stuff is shit..use damn robots and not humans for dumb work
Now I can bring my chair with me. Awesome.
An interesting video, thankyou.
I guess that u are from India because of your accent 😂
Good stuff but their prices are outta sight!