Test Ride: Panigale V4 Base Model
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
- www.DaveMossTuning.com
A kind gentleman allowed Dave to test ride his new base model Ducati Panigale V4. Dave evaluates the bike's braking, cornering, and acceleration, and concludes with some suspension direction.
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I love Dave's test ride videos, I learn far more about the bike than any of the journalists who only manage vague superlatives.
Love watching track videos of street bikes. That said, this might well be the best narrated test video I've ever watched. Dave's articulating what, IMO, I'd be saying to myself if I was in that driver's seat. Thanks, Dave! 👍
Thank you for watching. We hope Manufacturer's see value in this type of programming and allow us access to press bikes so we can continue sharing information with riders like yourself.
@@catalystreactionsbw just say your a jenrnalist and boom you got a test bike, i see these young kids with you-tube channels and they're getting sent to test bikes, so i think they should let you, i mean you do have a you tube channel too for God's sakes.
@@ashten92 I devalue the product by moving away from the stock settings and showing people how to get settings that work better for them.
@@catalystreactionsbw i downloaded your app and it helped allot for my street use,no more pogoing out of the seat once i put 10mil of static sag in the rear shock and opened up the rebound dampener,same with the front i sofened it up with just a rebound ajustment.it took like 3 full turnes on the rear shock to get any sag,it had none at all from the factory.im really enjoying the app by the way. Its very helpful.
'calm as a cucumber'. been riding for 45 years, been watching DMT tuning vid's for two weeks, I have been assimilated. you get lost in motor performance being primary concern but Dave brings it home that if you can't put it down and manage it, it's not worth a light.
Thanks for being assimilated willingly! Glad you are enjoying the content. Let the bike do what it is good at post set up, then work on skills to increase your synchronization and timing with your bike.
Wow awesome video! One of most insightful observations I've heard about differet suspension setups on a track! Wish youre out here in the East Coast, I would love to get some pointers from you. And man you sound so composed and relaxed like you're narrating it from your couch!
Thank you for the kind words. Took well over a year to learn to multitask, then more time to figure out how many words with how much speed. When you ride at 85%, there's a lot less stress :)
Terrific video, Dave. Very informative. Someone give this man an HP4 Race to review.
A super good test ride. Thanks Dave, you do great work.
Fantastic video Dave!
Thanks - are you going to buy one? I'm looking at selling a few bikes to have one myself .
Hi Dave, not at the moment, I am still a Yamaha guy. If I decide to buy a Ducati, I'll definitely let you know and get it through you. Good luck, hope to see you on a V4 soon. Guilherme.
Pretty good riding there, old man. Lol
I feel like I just tripped on DMT.
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@Dave Moss Tuning By how much as per you are the stock settings off for a 245lbs suited advanced rider on the base v4? I personally find the rear too stiff.
Based on weight and speed combined, travel will be the factor. Too stiff may be correct, but too soft will produce the same feeling. Turn the COM screw at the top of the shock to maximum and count back .5 of a turn, then test 2 complete turns out. Which one was better? First adjustment is shock too soft, second is too hard.
a telemetry overlay would be very nice
I would pay to see Dave take my new ZX-14 R around a track to see what it could do. all I see is videos of it on drag strips. and yes I know it's not THE greatest track bike but don't forget it's still a sportbike. Hes the Master of Motorcycles the Guru of Gixxers !
I would love to set the 14 up and work through a test schedule to see what we could acquire for handling via testing. Thanks for the kid words!
I have the 2019 base model, what do you think of the Sachs rear shock and the big piston Showa's any good or junk?
If I had the cash on hand I would buy a base model. The suspension works great on the base model I rode.
@@catalystreactionsbw cool Dave, ya i have had no issues since i adjusted the front and rear, it's good to know that I'm on good suspension, I'm only 150 pounds so it was a little stiff, but i used your app to soften things up for the street and recorded my original settings for the track, it was definitely set up for the track out of the box, very stiff,but it is sutch a good street bike as well as a track bike now. Thank you for your great app and video's Dave.
@@ashten92 Thank you for leveraging the videos and making changes that made the bike great for you!!
So Dave do you think that the S model is worth the extra, or would the standard model with fork/shock work provide better value?
I would say in the end of the day, it doesn't matter if you revalve a stock or a Öhlins damper to get the most out of it.
To bad we couldnt see the gauge cluster to get a feel for mph/rpm. Plus it has a eye pleasing dash.
Agreed, kawi. One of the prettiest dash displays yet!
Different set of questions. Just starting my track day experience, been there 1 weekend. I'm still surprised by some passes. And looking for etiquette guidance. You said this was novice/intermediate. Thoughts on pass on you at 9:47, your pass at 10:33, and rider blend line cross at 10:58? I know that doesn't phase you, but for novice/intermediate? Or was this just intermediate group?
9.47 was an excellent pass, 2 meters minimum and plenty of room given to me. My pass at 10.33 was a little closer as the rider was already steering to his left so the distance would have increased. The pass over the blend line had plenty of room for the rider and in intermediate as per 10.59, the rider moves right of the blend line to set up for turn 1. As for the groupings, sometimes intermediate is fast, other times t is slow, sometimes it has some riders that should be in advanced or Novice - so it can be a bit of a mixture. As long as the pass is to the outside of the rider on the corner they do not get startled. On the flip side if you leave a lot of room on the inside by not taking tight lines, you run the risk of being startled.
Hi Dave,so the problem on this fork is the spring too stiff. I have the same problem on a Suzuki gsx r 1000 L1. Do you know the spring rate on this model? I m weight 72 kg with all the gears...
.95 is the stock rate, so do you have the original springs and spacers? Has that been confirmed? You would need .80 or .85 depending on your ability and weight combined.
@@catalystreactionsbw the fork is stock,i only change the oil level at 110 after servicing it. But i m still far from bottom, 30mm, even braking as hard as possible and the preload all the way off. Thanks Dave for the reply!
@@gilbertosacilotto9662 Try 140mm to see if you get full travel.
@@catalystreactionsbw for sure i will do. Thanks Dave
wow you are turning in very early compared to others is there a reason? safer? feeling it out?
Speed = lean = radius, so at a recorded 172mph on the display prior to turn 1, a slightly earlier turn in is required with the addition of trail brake testing to see how much the bike slows down with 50% pressure
Thanks for the great review! Did you try out the active suspension mode at all?, or were you driving in manual passive mode the whole time?
Thanks for the kind words. Prior to this ride I tested dynamic and found it to be far too "bouncy" ie: poor rebound control, given the pace I was running. Going to manual settings gave the confidence to push hard right away.
Interesting, I found similarish problems until slicks went on and then the front end worked much better but the rear felt slightly overwhelmed.
The S is worth the extra if you're really good/fast; which I'm not.
Slicks changed the geometry of the bike due to the circumference difference.
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I'm trying to get a shot of the S special to see what the difference is.
I totally agree about the fairing size, the S1000rr is far better which makes it less tiring and easier to ride.
2 questions, how much do you weigh with gear and what engine setting do you have it on? I have the V4S and springs are way too stiff stock, front preload is all the way out and barely any sag... And too hard to ride at dynamic engine power. Brakes did getting used to but once you do it's one of the best I've had.
190lbs without gear. Factory showroom engine setting. Have you confirmed travel with a zip tie on the right leg to know how much you are using?
Maybe I need to bulk up a bit :p I'm at around 185lbs with street gear; I think the stock springs are made just for you lol. Definitely need to get mine resprung. Yes, the suspension travel seems to be fine, the electronics seem to be taking care of things... but at low speeds street riding it's not that fun here and there. The little static sag is significant on little drops/bumps on the road. The electronic suspension settings I've managed to find my sweet spots, if I want to ride aggressively I'll set it close to stock settings on race mode, if I ride casually then I'll set it 1-3 settings down usually (-2 to -3) comfort settings. Get full suspension travel in either, depending on how aggressively I ride and hard I brake. Engine setting I tend to ride in Medium for smooth throttle response, the High is just too hard to control in some situations.
Your voice sounds like you are sitting on a couch reviewing a movie, not riding the track at speed.
Dave - I’m looking to buy a v4
Is the S worth the extra £5000 over the base model?
Cheers
I will personally not buy the S model as I will revalve and respring myself. I personally prefer to make adjustments and save time verses working through a menu wasting time. I will not use it on the street so I do not need dynamic damping. Just my 2 cents.
Dave Moss Tuning ended up buying a gsxr1000r instead
@@kentowers2802 Dave Williams, editor, replying here. Curious, why the 1000R and not the 1000?
Dave Moss Tuning they have good 0% incentives on the 1000r - works out cheaper than the base model. Also like the blipper and suspension is meant to be better so hopefully notice the difference
So much lighter wheels, Ohlins suspension (electronic, but Ohlins), must be enough for the price. Manual suspension is always better, easier to fix, adust and mantain, perhaps this don't worth the price but, it does if you understand that the suspension in the base model is simply garbage (for a model like this).
If he thinks that front fairing is small hope he never rides the v2
God I want to like the sound of Ducatis but I can't. I feel like all the them sound like the engines are slapping themselves apart
The new V4 does not sound like that at all :)
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