Yes no Targaryen had parent-child incest. They just considered brother-sister ideal, aligning with their ideology of having sister-wife and ruling as equals.
It was a super-Freudian way to tell us Daemon is motivated by serious mommy issues. WHAT the actual f*ck were the writers ON when they wrote this scene!?!?!??!?!??!
i cant help but see Aemond as a weak character and Daemon being way more complex feel like this is because of Daemon walking the rope of morality swinging from side to side. while Aemond is just evil because he was bullied
@@dv9239 being evil intelligent and educated is not exclusive to one another, im not saying he is less fit to be king than aegon but that doesnt mean they are more legitimate than Rheanyra or Daemon
to be honest the only reason I even got into this whole show was because of game of thrones and I only watched game of thrones because the pilot episode had Emilia Clarke (danaerys) naked and I was super single so needless to say I was doing you know what during thst episode lol but then I realized I liked the show and started watching every episode after.
SPOILERS!!! - - In the next part, daemon will see himself on the throne in his nightmare, argue with himself, and as a result, he will realize that he is not worthy of the throne.
@@rukevweishomo5213 that’s what gonna happen episode 6 more then that tbh. (Episode 8 before they take KL information) Episode 8 Rhaenyra goes to Harrenhal to get Daemon. They have an emotional reunion where Daemon apologizes for his past actions. He pledges to fight for Rhaenya and under her rule. He has gotten a small army together at Harrnehal Alicents past decisions have been weighing on her and she attempts to commit suicide by drowning. Cole stops her which mirrors their scene together in episode 1. They also have an emotional reunion. Alicent travels to Dragonstone and pleads to split up the kingdom which Rhaenyra refuses. Their meeting is tense and completely ends the Rhalicent arc. There's no coming back from it. Alicent leaves for Oldtown at the end of the episode for Daeron.
@@him_911 that’s what half gonna happen next episode but mainly the season ending gonna be KL falling I don’t wanna spoil it for you but if you wanna know what’s gonna happen just ask. then ima show you den ima send you to a channel that’s gonna back up everything I type
Small correction: The show was wrong last episode. Meleys didn't reject Daemon. We're not sure if Daemon wanted to bond with Meleys, or he just wanted to visit his mother's dragon after Alyssa passed away when he was only 3. Rhaenys is 7 years older than Daemon, and she claimed Meleys when she was 13. In that generation, they claimed adult dragons when they were typically 15-17 years old. Daemon would have only been 6 at that time, too young for claiming an adult Meleys. But Rhaenys was also heir to the Prince of Dragonstone at the time, as Aemon was alive. So she took Meleys with her to Dragonstone, leaving 6 yr old Daemon likely very upset as he could no longer visit and remember his mother with Meleys.
Ironic that Rhaenys and daemon claimed the dragons of each others parents. Caraxes was bonded to Aemon (Rhaenys’ father) and Meleys was bonded to Alyssa.
Thanks for pointing out. This can't have been Alyssa. She looks nothing like her. Where are the mismatched eyes? Dirty blonde hair and crooked nose? And Alyssa had eyes only for Baelon. Plus, how can she know 3 year old toddler Daemon was 'the best swordsmen' and 'fearless dragonrider'? Daemon didn't claim Caraxes till after 92AC when he was 11-16. And if the show is making Daemon older when she died, then surely Daemon should have recognized his mother.
I'm not a huge literature nerd by any means, but I've been picking up like some OG classic writing this season? Shirley Jackson's Hill House (Aemond), Oedipus (Aemond), Edgar Allan Poe's Tell Tale Heart (Alicent in scenes with Larys). Maybe it's just me lol
Of all the targaryens they chose, why they gotta do Alyssa like that. Somehow made it even more cringe for both of them. Also if they made Alyssa look like a generic targaryen, its not looking good for Daeron Targaryen in the hedgeknight.
@@Silentpixel2024 in terms of the show i mean. Not knocking targaryens in general. Alyssa in the books has dirty blonde hair and two different color eyes. I know that's alot for the show but still.
I think everything that's happening at harrenhal is a dream & I don't think alys or the people is real. What if she is like a witch that is not alive but have powers that can work on people. Harrenhal is cursed so
Mismatched eyes? Like Tyrion? How many characters have that trait in ASOIAF? It's this a hint to Tyrion's heritage? Wasn't it rumored Tyrion had a different father or something? Maybe this is why Tyrion dreams of dragons (in the show, at least)?
Season 2. its so unprofessional. they created bullshvt, boring, sexually perverted, and misogynistic plots for the sole purpose of making ppl dislike character just bc they do, and were annoyed by his popularity.
You get mommy issues and you get mommy issues. EVERYONE GETS MOMMY ISSUES
Maester Sigmundus Freudus would agree Lord Bittersteel 😅
@williamgunderson7365 indeed he would 😄
House Blackwood is better than Bracken. Good to see you yet again Bittersteel
@gregrobertson5576 HOUSE BRACKEN FOREVER!!!!!
Great to see you as always. Hope you are doing wonderfully
Too be honest when I saw this scene, I thought the woman was Aemma at first. So I thought Daemon was once in love with his sister in law/cousin(?) LOL
Same. She doesn’t even look like Alyssa and def looks like Aemma
Most Targaryen moment indeed 😂😂😂🐲🐲🔥🔥🔥
Nah Targaryens she valyrions didn't do parent to child incest that's the one line they didn't cross.
Even in terms of inbreeding, I don’t think Targaryen parents had sex with their children
Yes thanks you!
Yes no Targaryen had parent-child incest. They just considered brother-sister ideal, aligning with their ideology of having sister-wife and ruling as equals.
Well, having sex doesn't always produce offspring, so it's not cut and dry
They really had to add that "my favourite son" at the end, to disgust us completely watching a mother and her son😂
Indeed. It doesn't make Daemon disgusting. It shows the writers are disgusting
It was a super-Freudian way to tell us Daemon is motivated by serious mommy issues. WHAT the actual f*ck were the writers ON when they wrote this scene!?!?!??!?!??!
The parallels between Aemond and Daemon
They both want throne
i cant help but see Aemond as a weak character and Daemon being way more complex feel like this is because of Daemon walking the rope of morality swinging from side to side. while Aemond is just evil because he was bullied
@@airconditionedrelco7099 Aemond is not evil
He's well educated and intelligent he is the only one of the bunch who is fit to be a king
@@dv9239 being evil intelligent and educated is not exclusive to one another, im not saying he is less fit to be king than aegon but that doesnt mean they are more legitimate than Rheanyra or Daemon
@@dv9239 just wait bro, he does some wild evil stuff later on in the books
I wanted to see Alyssa but umm not like this lmaoooo
OMG. Yes. I'm just like ...EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW...NOOOOO.
to be honest the only reason I even got into this whole show was because of game of thrones and I only watched game of thrones because the pilot episode had Emilia Clarke (danaerys) naked and I was super single so needless to say I was doing you know what during thst episode lol but then I realized I liked the show and started watching every episode after.
SPOILERS!!!
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In the next part, daemon will see himself on the throne in his nightmare, argue with himself, and as a result, he will realize that he is not worthy of the throne.
Imma come back to this
@@rukevweishomo5213 that’s what gonna happen episode 6 more then that tbh.
(Episode 8 before they take KL information)
Episode 8
Rhaenyra goes to Harrenhal to get Daemon. They have an emotional reunion where Daemon apologizes for his past actions. He pledges to fight for Rhaenya and under her rule. He has gotten a small army together at Harrnehal
Alicents past decisions have been weighing on her and she attempts to commit suicide by drowning. Cole stops her which mirrors their scene together in episode 1. They also have an emotional reunion.
Alicent travels to Dragonstone and pleads to split up the kingdom which Rhaenyra refuses. Their meeting is tense and completely ends the Rhalicent arc. There's no coming back from it.
Alicent leaves for Oldtown at the end of the episode for Daeron.
@@latj16x are these your predictions or do you actually know whats gonna happen?
@@him_911 that’s what half gonna happen next episode but mainly the season ending gonna be KL falling I don’t wanna spoil it for you but if you wanna know what’s gonna happen just ask. then ima show you den ima send you to a channel that’s gonna back up everything I type
@@him_911they are leaks.
Just add Targaryens marry Sister and brother, Cousin to cousin, Uncle and niece, sometimes Nephew and Aunt.
Small correction: The show was wrong last episode. Meleys didn't reject Daemon. We're not sure if Daemon wanted to bond with Meleys, or he just wanted to visit his mother's dragon after Alyssa passed away when he was only 3.
Rhaenys is 7 years older than Daemon, and she claimed Meleys when she was 13. In that generation, they claimed adult dragons when they were typically 15-17 years old. Daemon would have only been 6 at that time, too young for claiming an adult Meleys.
But Rhaenys was also heir to the Prince of Dragonstone at the time, as Aemon was alive. So she took Meleys with her to Dragonstone, leaving 6 yr old Daemon likely very upset as he could no longer visit and remember his mother with Meleys.
That sounds too sad...
With how insane the Targaryen's were I'm glad Jon got his values from Ned, and said no to his aunt
Am i crazy or does Alyssa look like Rhaenyra's mother?
Ironic that Rhaenys and daemon claimed the dragons of each others parents. Caraxes was bonded to Aemon (Rhaenys’ father) and Meleys was bonded to Alyssa.
Thanks for pointing out.
This can't have been Alyssa.
She looks nothing like her. Where are the mismatched eyes? Dirty blonde hair and crooked nose? And Alyssa had eyes only for Baelon.
Plus, how can she know 3 year old toddler Daemon was 'the best swordsmen' and 'fearless dragonrider'? Daemon didn't claim Caraxes till after 92AC when he was 11-16. And if the show is making Daemon older when she died, then surely Daemon should have recognized his mother.
Could be a drug similar to psycdiliacs which can be grown naturally
I'm not a huge literature nerd by any means, but I've been picking up like some OG classic writing this season? Shirley Jackson's Hill House (Aemond), Oedipus (Aemond), Edgar Allan Poe's Tell Tale Heart (Alicent in scenes with Larys). Maybe it's just me lol
Of all the targaryens they chose, why they gotta do Alyssa like that. Somehow made it even more cringe for both of them.
Also if they made Alyssa look like a generic targaryen, its not looking good for Daeron Targaryen in the hedgeknight.
Daemon barely remembers her so his mind filled in the blanks on how she looked. He was 3
@@TaeSunWoo true enough. Maybe I just miss the unique details of some targaryens.
@@Silentpixel2024 in terms of the show i mean. Not knocking targaryens in general. Alyssa in the books has dirty blonde hair and two different color eyes. I know that's alot for the show but still.
I think everything that's happening at harrenhal is a dream & I don't think alys or the people is real. What if she is like a witch that is not alive but have powers that can work on people.
Harrenhal is cursed so
Pretty cool scene
Mismatched eyes? Like Tyrion? How many characters have that trait in ASOIAF? It's this a hint to Tyrion's heritage? Wasn't it rumored Tyrion had a different father or something? Maybe this is why Tyrion dreams of dragons (in the show, at least)?
No. There is 200 years between them 2 and no connection in between.
Tyrion is a Lannister!
I don't think Tyrion is a Targaryen but there is another Alyssa descendant with heterochromia: shiera seastar
🎶SWEET HOME ALABAMA🎶
Alys = Alysa ??
The Targaryen afterlife must be so awkward. Like Daemon is def gonna be avoidimg Alyssa like the plague lol
I wish put the Green and Blue Eyes which the mother had.
They went too far this time ⌛ even for Targaryen standards
Bro I swear Alys gotta be dosing Daemon with weirwood paste or something. Isn’t she connected to the First Men and Old Gods?
I thought it was danaerys then cam the disgust😂
I’m of the belief that Daemon would have an Oedipus Complex if his mother had lived to see him grow to adulthood. My boy has no limits and I love it.
I love Daemon as a character but he needs THERAPY
W C !!!!!
What a terrible season of television.
brother ewwwwwwwwww
LOL I do NOT remember this in the books....🤢
Season 2. its so unprofessional.
they created bullshvt, boring, sexually perverted, and misogynistic plots for the sole purpose of making ppl dislike character just bc they do, and were annoyed by his popularity.