Brian Griffin: An Icon in Ruin
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Over the years I think I've made it clear that I have a certain fondness for the character of Brian Griffin from the popular adult animated comedy Family Guy, but as time, as gone on the character I once loved, has gotten worse and worse and today we're going to explore that with Brian Griffin: An Icon in Ruin.
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Very nice.
no
No
Bruh
Also first furry
@That Dude it was unlisted
When you’re sad that a character dies but then wish he stayed dead after he returned, you know they really fucked up something
r.i.p brain tattoo
Its like revealing the real skinner in the simpsons, it meant fuck all and there was no point in it other than to give attention to to the show again.
Hello Rya
For the record, I never wanted them to bring Brian back
Yeah that real estate episode pushed it over the edge for me. The fact that quagmire helped him fix his teeth and then he decided to scam quagmire and never learned a lesson by the end is just brutal. He’s a terrible character
Lets not kid ourselves, Brian is basically Seth's fursona.
Thank you! Finally someone gets it!
@@TheGodofdrawing wait wat
Basically? He literally is
At one point he was. Now he’s just the writers not giving a shit while Seth desperately wants to work on much better things like the Orville.
the word "fursona" made me laugh more than I expected
One of the best moments was brain and stewie talking about suicide or when he tried to give up both his kidneys. The line "I am willing to give up my 8 years so you can have 40 more" it's so heartbreaking without being overly cliche
and then when Stewie was crying about the thought of losing Brain and he told Stewie you can live without a dog but you can't live without a father that was just so sad but real
@@kurtpunchesthings2411in later episodes you can see Brian stepping up for Stewie, one thing I don’t agree with is the Brian serves no purpose, he’s Stewies only adult figure he cares for he’s purpose is to be there for stewie while he can be so that stewie can have a since of care and support in his hectic family. I know he wasn’t good father to he’s own kid and has failed in everything in life but for stewie he tries and I think that is what makes his character so special. Stewie gives Brian purpose and Brian give Stewie stability.
@@abigailhosey_ Sad thing is, the writers were very aware of that, and so they had Brian give Stewie herpes as an insult to the audience.
@@elliottpak Rupert would not approve.
I feel like Brian's suffered the same fate as Lisa Simpson. Both were good characters once, but as their respective series dragged on, they morphed into little more than mouthpieces for the writers' political views.
@@Oppistan Hello :)
True
@Crippy Reacts and a hypocrite
Brian has always had the same political views as Seth but now they are over doing it
@@TurquoiseStar17
So, we should be promoting a far right ideology that has proven not to work. Why should we agree with people who want to send our people to war to fight Israels wars. Why should we giving tax breaks to the rich while increasing taxes on the poor and middle class? Why do we want the government to force us what to do?
Seth MacFarlane committed character assassination on his own self-insert. Don’t see that happen too often
I don’t think Seth even writes the episodes anymore
@@VPKL he hasn't written for the show since 2012
character suicide?
He hasn’t written for the show in a decade so the writers killed his character
@@kabbablabba4073 don’t give Family Guy any ideas
Seasons 1-3 Family Guy: a middle class family getting into wacky situations
Modern FG: complete fucking psychopaths
Don't remind me..... That episode where Lois went "CLEAN" crazy was terrible!
Understated comment*
season 1-3: takes place in a slightly exaggerated world but is still mostly grounded
modern fg: its a cartoon lets do whatever the fuck we want, it doesn't have to make sense
The characters in modern Family Guy are literal archetypes of characters you'd find in a YT "Adult Parody" of a piece of media. (I'm looking at you Dorkly)
The main character being dumb.
The main woman being a diddling addict.
The secondary woman being a punching bag.
Diddling obsessed friend (Borderline Non-Permission diddler)
And we cannot forget the swearing contests.
agreed.
"he thinks i'm in love..."
"OH MY GOD!"
"..."
"YOU CAN TALK?!"
this single joke is funnier than anything else family guy has made past season 3
Season 3 damn
I think it was funny even after season 3 like atleast to season 9 it was great imo
But...that joke wasn't funny
@@rightinthedome9973 your THAT guy at parties arent you
@@partyelixir1265 the person who doesn't laugh at bad jokes?
@@rightinthedome9973 That guy who has no friends and no one wants him around.
Dude, I totally get the sad ending you gave to this video. In 8th grade I was obsessed with Family Guy and Brian Griffin may have been my favorite character of any show ever. As a lonely kid with autism I actually “wrote letters to” Brian as a form journaling. But as the writers screwed him up over the years and he changed I found myself losing faith in the show and him, to the point that I wrote a final letter “to” Brian explaining why I felt he’d changed for the worst and that I wouldn’t be writing to him anymore.
And the weird thing is it’s odd to think I ever loved either him or the show because it now feels like such a foreign concept
Awww...that's so touching
Aww dude that’s so sad and touching! I don’t think a lot of people realize the impact fictional characters can have on our lives.
Hello Cameron
jeez man...
That's actually kinda cool that you wrote letters to him... well, even if he wasn't real.
Went from wise, straight dog to peter’s shenanigans to complete pos. Also can’t wait for the family guy ranking
@@loganroofpedoexposer4952 Shut up.
@@loganroofpedoexposer4952 stfu
And he became a bully and villain in the modern seasons of Family Guy
@@kbrooo4395 what did he say
@@user-jl7cz2pe6d I forgor💀
Brain Griffin: The character that has literally met Jesus, But still is Atheist
He lived at their house for like a week and he almost banged the woman of his dreams, yet God doesn’t exist to him…..what???😂😂😂
Yes
Didn't Peter meet Jesus and god too?
@@joeker5208 😂 He has done countless women, heck he even did Quagmires dad
@@DaveInSnitchel on several occasions
Seth McFarlane has basically admitted on multiple occasions that Brian is just his window to voice his own opinions on the show.
plus he's also admitted he doesn't care anymore about the show and barely is involved anymore
Seth fursona
Seth McFartLand (Fart Noise)!!!!!
@@imagery5425 nø
There’s an episode in season 19 where Brian is actually a good guy again. He dates a woman with a kid, and at first doesn’t like him. But quickly they become great friends. When she eventually breaks up with him his main concern is spending time with her kid. Eventually though, he becomes the kids babysitter, and it’s hinted they spend more time together. I hope they do more with this connection, and expand on his relationships outside the family
Except they ruined it at the end where Brian took the money that the kid's mom left so they can order pizza and pocketed it, choosing to feed the kid bread and butter instead
@@dirtywyvern2991 Yeah I know, Its stupid.
You're absolutely right. Let me add something. Did you notice that Brian wasn't a jerk at all even in Season 18 and 20?
Brian dating humans has always been weird
Considering Brian is mostly Seth's natural voice, part of me thinks Brian is somewhat reflecting how he feels about the show in a way. Brian's death signifying that he's done now and no longer cares
And yet he came back after 3 Episodes...
@@aderose because of the uproar by fans. It's pretty obvious Seth doesn't care about the show anymore, hes probably fucking it up so much on purpose
They always planned for Brian to come back. They can't make a whole episode in 2 weeks. It takes a year.
Hello melodic
@@xXInfinityDiesXx he has no control over the script
Brian's true downfall was his stealth levels in the video game
“Peek-a-boo I see you”
Brian Griffin sniffing a bum bum
The police station one, tho.
@@loganroofpedoexposer4952 stop spamming
@@loganroofpedoexposer4952 your words mean nothing now.
I've never been quite able to put my finger on it, but I think I finally figured it out: The change for how they wrote Brian's character was a reaction to who he was paired with. When Brian was with Peter, Brian was able to play the straight man, comment or criticize on the theme in order to get Peter back on track, or even make himself look smart in comparison to Peter's stupidity.
When Brian got paired with Stewie (which I do feel works better, thematically) Brian wasn't really able to fit those same roles. Stewie was already level-headed, and was over the "Kill Lois" thing for the most part. Stewie was obviously smarter than Brian, so Brian didn't have room to comment or criticize much because of the intelligence gap (insults aren't criticisms). Brian couldn't even keep Stewie on track of whatever the topic was meant to be, because Stewie's entire shtick was counter to what an infant is supposed to be. Stewie goes on adventures, blows things up, time travels, etc. Stewie is the absurd and fantastical; an eccentric dandy with a desire for adventure and mayhem. Peter is (mostly) grounded; a stupid, fat drunk who is easily amused.
I suppose Brian can still play the straight man with Stewie, but that's kind of a given!
That makes so much sense!!!
Brian and Stewie still had some of the greatest scenes together. One of the last great family guy episodes is when Brian and Stewie get locked in the bank.
@@villian99918 True. That's probably one of my favorite episode of the series.
@Salvador Luna so like book smart and street smart?
@@salvadorluna6453 That's so clever! Wish fg writers could get brian and stewie to that point you described instead of making brian a douchebag that taking stewie for granted
You summed Family Guy up perfectly in the opening minute alone. Family Guy didn't just drop in quality; it became a different show entirely. The first three seasons, compared to anything that came after, may as well be their own seperate series. A series I miss dearly.
I came up with the idea that the show could have an episode that explains that the reason Brian dates women younger than him is because he lost that old woman. He's afraid that if he dates a woman his age that she'll die before him. It'd be a great premise for an episode but Family Guy doesn't do episodes like that anymore.
That’s ingenious
But they already had an episode where he dates an older woman. Everyone shits on him for it then he succumbs to peer pressure and dumps her.
Well that explains he had enough of that 50 year old widow he married.
Wow that was a great idea
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Mark: “I’ve been watching a lot of earlier Family Guy for an upcoming video…”
Me: Oh no.
Oh yeah you mean?
"Inserts Kool-aid man OH YEAH"
EVERY FG EPISODE EVERRRRR
@@inky3 Nate seems worried that Mark's going review ever episode ever made.
@@llewelynshingler2173 I hope mark does do that
Going into the Quagmire thing where he called Brian out, I believe that's where the show truly jumped the shark, and went to the point of no return. Yes, you could see it earlier than that, as Brian was basically becoming an a-hole with terrible writing for no reason. And yes, what Quagmire said was right about him, even if it was the writers who were basically saying it
But the worst part is that: It was Quagmire who said it. If it was someone like Joe, or Cleveland, or even the mustached gay dude who goes "Oh hey!", I would understand. But Quagmire? The same Quagmire who in a S4 Brian episode where he nearly raped a Bachlorette contestant on live TV, then later wanted to sleep in a 3-way with her and HIS MOM!! The same Quagmire that said he wait for his newborn baby girl in 18 years to sleep with her. The same Quagmire who has been straight-up called a "rapist" by Peter. That Quagmire.
Again, Brian should've been called out, but not by an even worst character. It's basically has been FG's downfall since, even if that downfall was beginning long before
I always saw him as a hypocrite, not because of the "brian wants to sleep with lois" thing but because of other stuff
like critizicing him for not being truthfull when sleeping with women and acting like he is interested in the things they do.
Tells him that he doesn't contribute at all in the family (in peter's body) even though he takes care of stewie and even saved him from his parents themselves
And worst of all, he hates him because of not being "a man of god", no need to explain why that's the worst possible argument coming from a s. offender
Yeah, that whole rant from Quagmire practically described himself. Brian only became more accurate to it later on but like..Quagmire wants to fuck Lois (and he has fucked Cleveland's wife), he has countless illegitimate children he runs away from and later he gives his daughter up for adoption. Just because he's honest that he dates women for their bodies doesn't make it right, also besides Jillian I can't think of a bimbo Brian went after as he is in love with Lois who is intelligent, an old woman, Chris' intelligent teacher and he was actually in love with Jillian. I also like how Quagmire says Brian doesn't really do anything political wise but like...he got weed legalized and then illegalized and got gay marriage legal in Quahog, no help from the homophobic Quagmire who literally said no.
Its really shows the lack of self awarness where the writers thought they were describing Brian (though he got there eventually) when they were describing Quagmire to a T while ignoring the good parts of Brian.
@@LNSO2006 Brian only ever tried sleeping with Lois when he was drunk, which he deeply regretted, and when they all thought Peter died, which was consensual. Quagmire on the other hand still stalks her and tried stealing her away when Peter got amnesia.
Quagmire doesn't tell all of the women he sleeps with that he has every STD known to man as shown in one of the Halloween episodes.
Like previously mentioned, Brian actually was willing to donate one of his kidneys to Peter even if he would die from it, while Quagmire never bothered to see if he was a match, where he would've lived just fine.
Brian may be the worst kind of atheist, but Quagmire is the LAST person who should be involved with any type of religion whatsoever.
Honestly i dont get why people keep saying"at least quagmire's honest with what he does." Like....does admitting you raped a woman make you less terrible than another person who does the same but doesnt admit?
Edit- and quagmire did those horriblr things on a much worse extent than brian ever did.
@@aeroscantsee1665 Brian may be an asshole, but Quagmire should be in prison.
Family Guy started to fall apart for me after season 5. The first 3 seasons were amazing while seasons 4 and 5 were good. I would like to see you do a video on Peter Griffen. He went from a dumb father who loves his family to just overall doofus who neglects his family.
Peter Griffin has turned into a psychopath. Cartman has more humanity in him.
To me season seven was when Family Guy lost its magic, charm and soul.
Yeah and I agree with Seth. Fox should have accepted his response.
i think 1-3 and 4-6 are good in their own ways, with 9 also being pretty good. but everything else i think is pretty meh to bad
I do think Stewie became a much better character than he was in earlier seasons, but yeah Peter became a much worse and less likeable character over time
Some fun facts about Brian Griffin:
-Brian attended Brown University in Rhode Island, however he failed to graduate.
-He drives a Toyota Prius
-He is eight years old, which is 56 dog years!
Ok?
So all this time, he was that one creepy old guy who loves woman when the newer seasons came.
Another fun fact: family guy constantly contradicts set facts about their characters.
Interesting fun facts!
@The Destroyer BHB He's speaking specifically of Brown University
Brian is the person I compare my close friends to when they start going down hill.
Yeah...
Bruh
Also first furry
@@milktea6676 Don't Start this again
@@loganroofpedoexposer4952
*sigh*
Fancy meeting you here.
Everything you say here is why I have to give massive props to the episode 'Boy's Best Friend'. Brian is the most likable he's been in ages here. He stands up to protect a kid and expects nothing in return for it. And when the kid's mother decides she no longer wants to date him, his primary concern is that he'll never get to babysit this kid again. That was a really touching episode. I'm just hoping we get more of that now.
this was an interesting take. i only started really getting into Family Guy after the characters were all Flanderized, so I liked that they were just shallow archetypes, and saw the show more of a sketch comedy like SNL, where the characters were all just in-universe actors(plus they did so many 4th-wall breaks it was easy to see them that way). I saw the show's theme song as purely ironic, given that most of the eps of FG i saw were full of sex and violence, and definitely some edgy fucked up humour. Brian was always a hypocritical asshole to me, but I liked that he sometimes acted like a real dog. He's always been paired up with Stewie as far as I knew him, so seeing him no longer be Peter's best friend didn't phase me much.
Plus, Peter's a way more horrible person if we're gonna take him seriously, so Brian being a dick isn't nearly as bad haha.
I thought the same thing! I like the fact that it is nonsense, but I do miss the old ones with heart
The worst thing about Brian is how his nose looks like a hole from certain angles. It makes him look like Birdo & it kinda weirds me out
God damn it I can't unsee that now
Wtf is a birdo lmao
@@moosesues8887 A character from the Mario series
@@dermotbresnehan6836 same
Nonono why!! Now I can't unsee it!!
Brian was such a good character, funny, smart, and was kindhearted trying to find meaning in life. Then, he just became...modern Brian.😭
RIP old brian
@@loganroofpedoexposer4952 Please do yourself a favor and leave...
@@loganroofpedoexposer4952 Bro, your hairline looks like the Batman symbol 🤣
Yeah, brian was so relatable but...he turned to shit.
Seth said Brian is a reflection of himself. Does that mean Seth thinks he's become a shit person?
I love the first 3 seasons so much..... When Peter was the Family guy, Stewie was evil genius, Chris was naively dumb, and Meg was a normal girl, and Lois was a slightly Watch it bub wife who actually loved her husband, and Brian was a chill intellectual who loved booze and cigs and cared about the family a little. Not anymore.
Agree except Stewie. He is better now. Him always trying to kill his mom was stupid
The characters were so different back in the day. Makes me wonder if they’re even the same people.
Y’know if they ever make a last episode i hope we get a self awareness episode where the family acknowledges that their personalities never used to be this way and try to fix it and find out what’s going on
Honestly, the show that has aged really well during it’s long run is American Dad.
I still watch new episodes of American Dad and I'm continously amazed that after all these years American dad is still a decent show
Incidentally, American Dad got better as it went along.
I disagree its as funny as ever all the seasons were good except for season 19 ( pacing too slow, lack luster writing, and not enough cutaways) and it still had good episodes.
@@DBZAOTA482 definitely, it was a great show once it found its footing.
I disagree. This show has aged horri ly.
Yeah the writers hate Brian remember that one episode where brain really loves this girl to the point of not even trying to force himself on her and trying to take it slow only for Cleveland to come and steal the same girl?
The reason Brian took it so slow with the girl is because Stevie told him too. The girl was a cheater anyway and even cheated on Cleveland.
"To the point of not even trying to force himself on her" wow, what a high bar
Brian shouldn't even be dating human girls. The moment he started doing that was around the same time he lost who his character was. Then became the weird pervert we have now.
@@turnipopolis oh shut up he didn't mean it like that.
@@sentimentalmariner590 I mean it’s a reality a lot of us overlook, it’s extremely disgusting for a dog to have sex with humans
Mark: When I was 10, my favorite show was Family Guy.
Me: I'm a full grown adult and my parents still don't let me watch Spongebob.
Brian used to be my favorite character. I loved that he was the family's voice of reason.
Brian Griffin. Once a magical being, who ruled all of the underworld with an iron fist. Now reduced to nothing, but a topic in an LS Mark video.
Which is still nothing.
@@totaldramaedited679 You mad?
@@Flome810 …What?
Hey look it's Soak Uh !!!
@@_tonyvera Don’t give me memories of that horrific movie.
Also, isn't Brian's entire existence fucked up? He is both treated as an animal and a person at the same time. Like you could legally put him down if you wanted to and not get any flack for it. It's been shown many times that out of all his siblings, he is the only anthropomorphic one. And whenever there is another anthropomorphic dog on the show, it's always related to him in some way. Whether it's his cousin or his full-on replacement.
Also, isn't it weird how he almost only dates humans? Are humanoid dogs just that uncommon in the Family Guy universe? Or just he just have a thing for them? From the top of my head, I can only think of 2 dogs that he's been with. (One anthro and one normal) and over 6 girls (one that he was even able to procreate with!) Shouldn't this be controversial in the Family Guy universe? On one hand, he is as smart and capable but on another, he's still pretty much treated like a normal dog. Where does the person start and the animal stop?
Ok
@@JmKrokY Seriously? That's your only response?
Ok
Ok
Ok
I think my love for Stewie as a kid helped my love for Brian cuz I think those 2 have the single best relationship in the show. Any episode that focused around those 2 in the earlier seasons I adored
Yeah I think Brian and Stewie as characters individually are trash but they’re amazing as a duo. I don’t know any other duos like that
The italian dog was a good character though, it would've returned into Brian's original role as the family dog, but with a better and funnier personality
You know, Quagmire hating Brian is basically just Seth MacFarlane hating himself, which is unhealthy.
Quagmire is so much worse than Brian and that rant was the most hypocritical thing I’ve ever heard.
@@Brogan_Balfour_Crescent I agree. Excellent reply. 🙂👍
Side note: I think the reason why Brian has changed and is the way he is today is because he’s the literal embodiment of the series’ creator, Seth MacFarlane. Not only does he use his normal voice for Brian, but his personality is based off him as well.
Plus, how could Seth bring it upon himself to call himself a sad, alcoholic bore? Wouldn’t he be too arrogant and pretentious to admit that??? 🤔💭🤷♂️🤯
Not quite Seth Stopped writing around season 9 now he mostly does voices.
He died and came back to life, thats how much of a legend he is
legened
@@PopYTP Wrong
You know who else did that?
Bugs bunny
@@loganroofpedoexposer4952 what is wrong with you?
@@loganroofpedoexposer4952 keep that up and you’ll be the one who’s burning
As someone who lives in the city of Massachusetts, I can confirm that it is, in fact, a state.
I can tell the times that Seth walked away from the writing room and creative directions.
Brian makes me appreciate how well Bojack Horseman is written
you seriously xkmlarkng bojack to family guy?
@@wool578 what the FUCK is xkmlarkng!!?
@@kazumak.1542 wtf you don't know what xkmlarkng means? no wonder they call you people drelkis
@@wool578
What language are you speaking? What are you talking about?
@@giantpinkcat Are you completely loinked? Gronus man, keep up.
I feel like the episode where Quagmire dresses him down was the real turning point. Like that gag is a pretty standard comedy trope, having someone list a beloved character's flaws/mistakes to reframe them as a dick from certain angles. Except it was like the entire writing staff just agreed with the speech and ran with it. Suddenly the douchebag Quagmire described WAS the character.
Best comment I’ve seen describing the phenomenon.
The worst part of it to me is that they chose QUAGMIRE to do it, the creep who literally hangs around until a girl turns 18 to bang her. I recall that episode was the one that sealed the deal for me and made me just despise this show.
@@ultimopena I find it weird that was the tipping point for you. They made jokes of him being a kidnapping daterapist who seemingly makes use of human trafficking from the very first run of the show. It took him waiting for a girl to reach the age of consent to convince you?
@@nobodyspecial675 That was the only example I could think of at that time, but did you even read my post? The example I used doesn't matter, the problem is that Quagmire is an unrepentant deviant and that was the point. The fact that an unrepentant pervert is the one who was chosen to chew Brian out was what made me despise family guy.
Before that point I just kind of disliked it for it's crude comedy.
@@ultimopena Shit, sorry, I get what you mean now. Yeah, it is kind of a strange choice. I suppose every other character was rapidly hurtling towards reprehensible by that point. Quagmire didn't stand out as being any more antisocial than Peter so why not? Funny how his character paled into relative normalcy over the series now that you mention it.
I agree with you about the change of Brian. I stopped watching Family Guy because the writer's started to change a good chunk of the character's to make a joke, especially their origins. Joe was one of my favorite characters, though they changed him when they revealed the "real" reason he lost his legs (the incident with The Grinch was a cover up) which I think was just....stupid.
Brian and Stewie is my favorite episode in the entire show because it is the equivalent of the writing prompt - what do you get when you put two characters in a box with no windows and no doors and let them do?
“I am smart”
“Yes, I am also smart”
“No you are not smart. You are dumb.”
**brian’s face enlarging**
**credits roll**
13:12
Fanny
Hello Judy
That's unironically funnier than the last who knows how many seasons of Family Guy
“Brian Griffin: An Icon in ruin”
But actually
“Brian Griffin: A character in ruin.”
Which one is it Mark, I’m getting mixed signals here. 🥴
Both
it's the second one actually
"Brian Griffin: A Simp in Ruin"
@@ryanm.8720 aren't all simps in ruin?
The episode where Brian and Stewie are locked in the safe was possibly the best family guy episode ever
I agree. Though there were some pretty impressive moments when Family Guy got together with The Simpsons.🤣🤣
Makes me wonder what kind of laughter (or sheer boring horror???) could be produced if Family Guy teamed up with King Of The Hill, Beavis and Butt-Head, or even South Park?
Goodness no
Brain is in the perfect spot for character development but I bet the writers are too nervous to change him :/
Brian is just a representation of how anything that has been around for a long time can basically be simplified and ruined to death.
Dying a hero or living long enough to see yourself become the villain.
I have watched a lot of films and for me, when it comes to film 🎥, you have two hours. More often than not.
Two hours is the time to tell a good story.
A second part amounting to four hours might be a lucky treat.
But two hours is the length of a good film.
And watching a film is a two hour ritual.
It's something I realized a while ago.
Simplified, or simp-ified?
@@jesseleeward2359 Thanks for the tip, but it has nothing to do with the original comment.
Aka "flanderized"
Brian is probably the second biggest Hypocrite in the whole show (Behind Quagmire) He is constantly trying to expose other characters scummy attributes, But never decides to look at how much of a bad person he actually is.
Quagmire being a dick is fine but Brian shouldn’t do that as it’s a complete character swap of what he used to be
Agreed
Oh yeah and I forgot to mention that Lois has started to take up some of Brian's traits in more recent episodes. But in a much more phsycopathic manner
Quagmire is practically a sex offender, but I don't know what's so hypocritical about him.
No wonder they hate each other
Once I heard the summary at the end, I felt a mild wave of sadness because despite it being a cartoon dog, I think so many of us can relate to what he feels.
I have always loved this scene. Brian’s face gets me every time 6:13
No exaggeration, out of all the shows I've ever watched, I don't think I've ever seen a character get ruined as bad as Brian Griffin
Did you watch the 4th season of Elite?
Hello Alex
I'd almost agree with you, but then I started thinking about some of the Game of Thrones character arcs.....still makes me mad to this day.
Phil & Lil's mom in Rugrats
Lisa Simpson would like a word
mark I want to watch this epic video but im scared you might play the clip of lois saying "s** on tv" and then my parents will hear it and beat my ass
LMFAO
If the video was published 15 min ago how is your comment from 26 min ago
@@vengefulkatana7613 AYO WHAT THE FU-
@@vengefulkatana7613 the video was unlisted for a while
@@vengefulkatana7613 the video was unlisted for a while but mark posted a link to it on his twitter before it was made public
17:17 Don't forget that Brian also infantilized Quagmire in that episode and treated him like a child when he clearly did not wanna be treated as such.
I HAVE to disagree about Brian being good for Quagmires mom, it looked to me like he was just taking advantage of the change in social climate to get at quagmire.
Old Brian was practically an obsession for me. His nonchalant based attitude shaped me. Turning him into a tone deaf liberal was like having acid sprayed in my face.
Hey Lois, this was worse than the time I got 20% off on Manscaped!
@@loganroofpedoexposer4952 bruh what the fuck
@@b1polarhamst3rd34th what did he say
@@edgyslayer Jack's dad is burning in hell
Oh my gawd, Lois!
"Woah, ass ahoy."
-Brain Griffin 31st January 1999
talking about flanderization and instantly putting Shadow in the picture Is really a must
I don’t think brain being stewie’s sidekick over peters is a bad thing, since I think they work better together.
Also personally I thought the bank vault episode was great.
The main issue with Brian being Stewies side kick is that it makes his character one dimensional if he can only bounce off one character, rather than several
Old School Brian was great.
He had a good relationship with the entire family. After that, eh.
I made a Peter Griffin Kill Count check it out
Brian didn't die when he got hit by that car, he was already dead the moment they stripped him of his best character traits
>He was already dead
*Insert "Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru" meme here*
Hello Mario
shouldn't have died by that accident.. man's been hit my BUSES, beaten to a pulp, shot... now how getting run over kill him?
They left the body but took the soul
As someone from Massachusetts, it’s a state. Boston is the biggest city, being about the size of 600,000 people. Martha’s Vineyard is where they went, a vacation hot spot in the great state of mass.
"The loveable family dog"
Bro the whole point of Brian's character is that he's completely unlovable.
I had a feeling he didnt watch, review, and rank every episode in a couple of weeks
tbf he said for his Simpsons vid he tried to cover a season per day, right? If he did the same for family guy he could get it done in a few weeks (though then there’s the matter of actually making the vid lol)
I love how after bringing back Brian they end up killing him off again multiple times as a joke. You could even make a whole RUclips channel of just Brian deaths.
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@FuckOuttaHere No the anime pfp is ironic I swear
So basically, they turned him into Kenny from South Park.
@@bageltoo its Sig so its acceptable.
@@farlong4948 didn't Kenny stop dieing
Massachusetts is definitely a state not a city 9:28
Clarification: Brian didn’t “get with” Carter’s dog, he “forced himself” onto her. Also, did you pay attention in the Brian and Stewie episode? Stewie explains why he made Brian do it, it wasn’t supposed to be a joke
Thats what dog do tho
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Tbh I always hated Screwed The Pooch and I don't get why Mark lauds it. It was just another example of Brian being a dick only this time, everyone defended him. A big point of the episode was him having sexual urges and Lois trying to reassure him that there was nothing wrong with him, and they resolve it by having him... do something wrong and get away with it? Of all the ways they could have tried to make the audience sympathise with a character's struggle that many people can relate to, they chose that?
That's not the way a dog going in heat works. A dog in heat doesn't need to be forced, she's already willing, extremely willing, to fuck anything that moves. Hence why if you pet your buddy's dog who's in heat, she'll turn her butt to you and curl her tail.
@@boogit9979 Human do it too but they go to jail for that.
Why is dog allowed to do it even though he act like human?
I mean Seth MacFarlane based Brian off of himself. He once was great, but became a walking corpse years later.
Yikes do you remember the episode where Brain died!?
We know, what a shit episode.
You think Seth McFarlane is doing ok? This could be some serious self-hatred.
@@pauladudleycreatfeat or maybe it's just self reflection
And not a walking corspe 😂
The fact that the show got cancelled after its first three seasons probably was one of the biggest factors for the writing's slippery trip downhill in terms of quality.
The funny thing was when the show came back in 2005, Seth MacFarlane (I think it was him, but it could have been another writer) actually said.
"I'm actually ok that we got cancelled, it gave us all a break from the show for a year and helped us prevent writing fatigue."
Seasons 4,5 and 6 had some great episodes and personally season 5 is my all time favourite
Something that should be mentioned is the writer of the show said that Brian is based off of him (depression, struggles with women, struggle to find purpose). That’s why his voice isn’t edited, it’s the writer’s regular voice. They threw that down the drain over the years
Interesting if true. Sure as shit provided ME with some damn good laughs over the years!
Brian basically became the Quagmire 2.0. He just runs around using everyone and even sexually assaults Lois at least once, while trying to do it on multiple episodes. At least they tried to develop Quagmire, while they undeveloped Brian. It's all violence, rape, and vomiting now.
The writing staff must be so depraved. Season 10 Peter wants to have sex with Lois while they watch a video of children murdering each other - and he's watched it so much he knows exactly when to ... err.. finish. What kind of person writes this and finds it funny?
Problem with the show is characters are stupid, mean, and doesn’t grow just for gags and letting the show continue to drag on. Over half of the trouble and scenario the family gets into are caused by their own flaws and stupidity. If the characters grow and fixes their flaw, they wouldn’t be able to drag the show on and on.
it's not an overarching serial drama, it's family guy
Don't put the characters into a world but put them into a story instead
You can make a character dumb just for the plot, but it has to be funny
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@@mmmghool And once upon a time, Family Guy wasn't shit.
The child abandonment argument for Brian needs to stop. He didn't abandon his son his son left to take care of his mother. The crap that happened with them later on the TV show is still wrong but the idea that he abandon his son because his son chose to leave is nonsense.
brians overinflated ego is the only characteristic that stays with him no matter how much he "changes", i put it in quotes cause he never actually changes, instead just becoming more ignorant and narcissistic
The beginning of ls marks family guy analysis series
Yez
You have to admit, Stewie did get the best development out of most characters in animation.
From a one note gimmick to a 3 dimensional personality.
No he absolutely did not. He does have good moments, sure, but those good moments are heavily interrupted by the 5000th gay joke of the week. His mellowing down is not "growing up" as many claim for him, it's just that extreme flanderization worked out well for him because babies aren't supposed to have a personality and Stewie has the trump card of "genius" as his personality trait, which allows him to feel deeper than Brian in the newer seasons. Tl;dr Stewie got lucky with bad writing.
@@arunavagupta9382 You got your opinion, I got mine.
I can't say he did. He got toned down a lot to the point he became bland.
I like both equally "Damn you vial woman" A baby saying that is just so funny but a gay baby he can bounce off people better.
@@akieboygaming I know that you meant to say "vile" instead of "vial", but that is the perfect setup for a classic 2024 meme that corpos in the 2030s will drive into the fuxking ground.
Example: "Me and the bois when
(Insert picture of Lois Griffin printed onto a cup with no other context)
when L O I S C U P."
i miss when the family werent assholes, sure they werent THE BEST per say, but they all had somewhat likeable traits
Idk about you. But that "omg you can talk" line is the best
I first saw that nearly 20 years ago, still laughed
Everybody gangsta until Brian does the crossed arms pose
Now I know where mark has learned that ability from.
Then Peter does the roadhouse kick.......(WHAM).... roadhouse!!!!
The whole reason all the characters become more cynical and violent was that Seth MacFarlane wanted to end the show ages ago, but Fox wanted it to keep going so in response Seth made the show and characters basically assholes
Well that didn’t work out well
So a similar case to Fairly Oddparents (making characters slowly disappear and pulling in unlikable ones as a replacement) and Spongebob (Seasons 5-8 were essentially the show getting worse until Season 9 where they accepted the show’s fate and made it more like the original 3 seasons)
Everyone says that but idk, Seth hasn't been involved in the shows production in a very long time, and it hasn't exactly changed the style to much.
He wanted it to end in 2011 because he was super busy around that time
I think all shows turn a bit shit after so many different changes in writers. Makes me think of a "too many cooks spoil the broth" kinda deal
"A good healthy relationship that could be explored upon."
Family Guy: 😕
"Brian's girlfriend of the week."
Family Guy: 😎
Brian was Frasier in a dog's body but now he's Charlie Sheen in a dog's body
I can’t watch this show. I haven’t in a long time. The characters all became flanderized to the point where everyone is insufferable to watch. The only time I cared about a recent episode was the one where Meg finally defends herself and calls everyone out on their bs.
The fact there all assholes makes it funnier to me.
@Arnold Tatis-Algarin This episode pissed me off the most as someone who grew up with abusive parents. Like, what kind of message were they trying to send?
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No message is trying to be sent. It's just a bad yet sometimes funny tv show.
@@turboshazed7370 Then they should stick to being funny instead of dimming the tone and getting preachy.
I miss Brian’s old smooth voice.
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@@Oppistan Hello Oppistan
@@DraconicMordred hello cardinal
@@ruejanea hi
@@ruejanea Hello Marooroo
9:50 Anyone notice how he sounds like Stewie for a split second there?
6:25 Is that Ridge Racer Type 4 music playing in the background? Nice one! Awesome soundtrack, classic game.
Why do people think it’s a bad thing that mark ran over Brian? (I think people missed the joke that I tried to claim as my own)
I dunno
No
That’s a bad thing?
Oh hell no, he should have stayed dead and not been brought back even if he was replaced by a Italian stereotype at least I didn’t see him give a baby herpes, use his son for his own fame, call a girl ugly because she has a flat chest and is stuck in a shitty family, tries to bang his best friend wife, tried to date Meg’s more than likely underaged friend, etc.
@@starrsmith3810 This
Because they didn't kill him for good
Brain nowadays just feels like Tibbitt-era Squidward but if he was a jerk.
They both get the short end of the stick, and I only feel bad for one of them.
@Gaming W Epic
Oh I didn’t forget cowboy.
Don’t get me STARTED on Peter Griffin.
I’ve been going through all of your vids and this is the first one that doesn’t end with a joke into your intro, really goes to show how serious you are about this topic.
My theory is that Seth is intentionally trying to kill the show so he can pursue other works, so he’s trying to tank ratings as subtly as possible
i can see that.
but that still wouldnt look good on him you feel me
Brian was often the voice of reason, but evolved into an actual character that had his own issues. That was beautiful. After Seth left, the show started a slow and painful decline that has left it hard, if not impossible to watch as of more recently. Doesn't help that nearly every episode has super in your face social, religious or political commentary, or some combination of the three.
Just a reminder that Not all Dogs go to Heaven and Lottery Fever were made when Seth was still on the show
"Brian Writes a Bestseller" is where my interest fell off for him. For the first 3 seasons, (and for a majority of Seasons 4 and 5), Brian was a great character. While Season 6 was a turning point for Brian's character (in a bad way), he still was decent for the most part. But him lashing out on Stewie, (S9 E6) is where all the respect for his character was just thrown away. Every episode after that is just a steady downfall of his character.
I find it incredibly dumb that Brian gets so worked up over Stewie and starts hating him solely because of a restaurant seat in the episode “Brian Writes a Bestseller”.
I remember when I first watched that episode, it felt so out of character for Brian to act that way towards Stevie or anyone else. But you’re right, that was the transition for Brian to go downhill.
Hello Vortex
I kinda agree, he sucked in that episode but I felt like he was still had episodes were he was likeable such as "New Kidney in Town". He got worse and worse overtime until season 12 is when he was just bad like the rest of the show.
He was hilarious that episode. Am I the only one that thinks Brian’s more funny now. Ya sure he’s often a douche bag but it’s funny and a lot of times relatable. This is a comedy show after all the show is literally a joke Brian doesn’t need to be some complex deep character none of them do
I remember the worst thing he did was in season 17 where Brian read Lois's romantic novel draft and used it to try and seduce Lois. But when it turned out the main character of said novel was based on an actual person he tried to stop Lois, because he drew the moral line when he thought she was about to have an affair with someone else, but him.
16:10 no you're not taking this too seriously I love character analysis
3:30
Godly example of flanderizing a character seriously Shadow went from a character with actual motives, personality and friends to this angry, edgy husk of what he was.
I guess you could say he became a SHADOW of his former self. (ruclips.net/video/g-4-gLlF0uw/видео.html)
Shadow from STH wasn't THAT bad, by the end of the game he becomes really good and learns to let go of the past, and after that, 06 happens and only improves his character even more, he is nice to sonic and all his other friends and he no longer looks back, infact he doesn't even blame omega after being told that it is him that will capture shadow in the future
@@superhydra8873 I agree, though I was more so talking about the 2010's depiction of Shadow we have now. He's arrogant and overly competitive, and apparently Sega mandates don't even allow him to have friends, meaning that Rogue and Omega are apparently nothing more than just business partners. I long for what he was like in 06.
@@jgez5845 same
I always saw Brian as Seth's self insert. Once Seth got bored of the show and left, they rest of the writers started using him as the whipping boy to spite Seth. I would guess that Seth is kind of a shitty boss/bad person so the writer's room stopped playing nice once Seth was no longer directly involved in the show
@@Bottomgear5780 I agree with this more because whil Aldriko has an interesting idea… Seth isn’t a bad person or a bad boss (bad boss is slightly more argumentative)
We can’t really make speculations with that though, since characters in long running sitcoms, even if they appear to be one-note superficially, have a lot of nuance deep inside. I think it was just seasonal rot and a lack of direction.
But on the other hand, the writers are the kind of people to make racial and homophobic jokes
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@@nickrustyson8124 what’s wrong with racial and homophobic jokes? They’re jokes not their actual views
as someone from Massachusetts, can confirm that it's a state lol. I believe they went to Marth'as Vineyard in that episode mentioned - which is an island that's a part of Massachusetts
There’s one sentence that completely disregards this whole argument: “Bro, It’s Family Guy”