What happened to Lewis’ Power Unit? | 2024 Australian GP Akkodis F1 Race Debrief
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- Опубликовано: 20 май 2024
- Lots to talk through after a challenging weekend in Australia. James Allison explains George’s red flag radio message, why we started Lewis on the Soft tyre and much more in our @Akkodis Race Debrief
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P9 and P10 in Suzuka Let’s go team!
HAHAHA you made my day
Hahahaha
😂😂😂😂
Con't
Average Haas fan
I love the fact they even do this is so refreshing that a team even lets us inside where they’ll discuss the process they are going through.
Can we get a James Allison Podcast already? I need more.
He’s done one for Beyond The Grid. Yes it was awesome.
I watch a race, I get disappointed. I listen to James, I get a bit of hope. I watch another race, disappointment. This cycle is making me numb.
like being married to a charming psychopath...she charms you to keep staying!
Really appreciate the honesty of the first answer, I know I felt the disappointment but I can never quite get my head around how hard it must be at times to keep pushing as a team and crucially as individuals within the team. Low morale sucks and it's pleasing to know everyone finds a way within themselves to get up and keep moving forwards.
Happy to hear George is all good too!
Great questions, excellent answers. James is very clear and easy to listen to, also a legend. Thank you.
Wishing the best to all. ❤💜💙🖤
Just wish the team can find the underlying issues and address them throughout the season
3 years of saying the same thing
@@mdenjoyer831 its tiring. 3rd year in a row
@@mdenjoyer831I don't think that he was there.
However I hear you
They wont lol
The floors garbage
I love this team soo much … but I’ve been heartbroken for 3yrs … I just hope we can come back really strong and I think it’s going to take a while to get back on our feet
If you’re heartbroken imagine the engineers and people in the factory working hard to produce good car
@@mrproducerbeast heartbroken just because you didn't win, and came second instead? fragile much?
@@GamezGuru1 until you actually be in the engineers place, then you’re allowed to talk. Otherwise, you’re just wasting your stinky breath.
The hours every single person put back in the factory building a title winning car is exactly the reason they’re allowed to get upset when they’re not winning when they’re used to top the charts
Removing James 2 years ago has set this team back an entire era
they didnt remove him, I think I heard that he left to spend more time with his wife.
@@adnank1778 nah bro, nice joke. he left to work on amg-boats
You’re both right, he wanted to spend time with family so changed his working position to work on boats to be at home more
His wife died in 2016…
@@LilSebastian_ he remarried
On the "red flag, red flag" question - and I've made the same comment on another video - I was hugely impressed by the calmness his race engineer maintained. I think that providing clear, calm, but also short and digestible messages in such a situation must hugely beneficial. Especially when others around are probably shouting, in GR parlance, "Oh goodness me! What a fix we're in!"
Is it necessary to have the background music?
It's a bit much isn't it
im listening to allison while bobbing ma head... its qiute good..
Lol and it's such zero quality muzak
@@randomnkbr Do you write your own music? If not, pipe down and enjoy the video.
This is why Merc is so good! Of course winning is what we want to see, but the way the team so transparently pursue F1 perfection is nothing shy of inspirational. Best of luck team!
I agree, I am a Mercedes fan even now when they are not winning because of the transparency and how much they show their fans behind the curtain so to speak.
Also if Ferrari was a superior truly better car then would the FIA safety car and medical car be a Mercedes AMG?
@@bge9747 Just like with the new aston martin…they paid to get the rights
@@bge9747an f1 car and safety and medical cars are cery different… How good the teams F1 cars are has nothing to do with the safety and medical cars.
Great video, love the honesty and analysis. Let’s get through these tough times together
Keep fighting!
To Russel and team:
You all need to create a sensor aiming toward the ground and place it at the floor board, etc. When the car is on the side or upside down the sensor will trigger the VSC automatically, since it cannot sense the floor. 👍🏻
I trust James...he needs time..and dont forget who made the flying W era...specially W11+W12.
Even the w11 and 12 lost the races where chassis was important than power. Merc had the best power unit not the best aero. Red bull one all the aero sensitive races.
He aint got a jar of glue when it comes to ground effect cars
dont forget lot of engineers have left since then
@@aravkumar14 I tend to disagree with w11. W11 was the fastest because it had the grip to take turns carrying much speed. The grip comes from aerodynamics not with engine power. Considering the massive engine power they got in the car, it has to aerodynamics good enough to hold car to the ground. If it wasn't they won't be able to achieve that sorts of speed in corners.
@@aravkumar14 you definitely have no clue about what are you saying !! W11 and 12 had the best downforce and aero dynamics in history of F1 !! you can easily understand it by watching sector records !! RB is exactly the opposite !! what makes RB different from the others is their top speed and their straight lines advantage !!
I find these very helpful and I look forward to them. Please drop the distracting background music! I want to focus on the analysis.
I can't wait to see the fight for 5th place, keep it up guys😎
They will be third at worst, 3 races with one double DNF and a double cooling set up error doesn’t fairly reflect where they are. They will get more competitive as the year progresses
@@Obviously-by6jpyour joking right mcclaren is faster Aston is similar if not faster and Ferrari and RB is another level all together
Nope seasons are not won or lost in 3 races, based on that outlook Aston Martin would have won P2 in 2023 even with stroll, did they
I called that they would drop right back last year, funny that.
McLaren and Aston are very close to Mercedes. It depends on track layout a lot but it is very close.
It could go anyway, but statistically you would bet on merc to beat them both over a season
@@Obviously-by6jp Why Because you say so?
As it stands I wouldn't bet against RBR Ferrari or McLaren. Aston are not a proven entity as of Yet.
McLaren and Ferrari have each won quite a few more titles than either RBR or Mercedes
Do you have temp sensors on board the car that is dedicated in measuring track temp? I think with ground effect rules, getting track temp precisely is important.
Perhaps Lewis is being given the spare parts/b spec/old engines---why bother with him now that he's going to Ferrari
@user-tf8qf3kb5e probably the same engine that had problems in bahrain with overheating, may have shortened the engine life span significantly.
it doesnt make sense. to the team a driver is just another piece of tool in the machine to make them more money by winning points. more points = more money will be won.whats the use of giving an inferior car when you have already poured a significant amount of time and money to get those points.
Let's go boys...we need to aim for p5 at least in Suzuka... I know u can..
Interesting that Mercedes customer cars McLaren and Aston Martin outperformed the factory team!
That’s because they poached Mercedes and Red Bull engineers. It wasn’t mentioned in Drive to Survive, so I would t expect you to know that.
@@LilSebastian_ most interesting thing about DTS is the cinematography and camera angles I don’t care much for the story lines. You’re right I am new to F1 I only started following when Ayrton and Alain were swapping driver’s titles been to more than a half dozen races in Asia and NA. Toto has had James Allison in the technical department since 2017 long before DTS and designed 4 championship winning cars. He’s still around isn’t he? Mercedes seems to be more affected by the usual personnel movement than Red Bull is.
@@Joeym1655 There is nothing interesting about it.... it's not Formula 1. It's the worst thing to happen to Formula 1 since Senna died.
@@LilSebastian_ Liberty Media doesn’t care what you think of DTS because you already follow F1. It was created to generate interest in the Americas among casual and non F1 fans. They saw the US as the key for expanding the calendar and the revenue that goes with it. DTS was a success in this regard generating enough support for at least 3 American races. Not much potential left in Europe and Asia (e.g.
Malaysia, Korea, Vietnam) when compared to US.
In FP3 the drivers took 3 to 4 laps to bring the tyres up to temperature before doing a hot lap, in qualifying they went back to 1 warmup lap before a hot lap... which didn't work.
‘We’re working on it’ …..
*Looking forward to the first upgrades in imola? Hopefully this fixes the problem. If not then 2026 new rules or is it a faulty sim??*
by the time Merc understand the car, get the regulations right, and have the wind tunnel correlate to the real world data....it would be time for a new set of regulations
In Japan we will be the 5th best team lol.
Behind racing bulls so 6
Apologies to Mike Elliot
Bro was unto something with the zero side pods concept
04:19 So, too much downforce and stiff suspension makes the tyres warmer. And it's increased by the track temperature also. And the track surface abbrasion is also a factor.
I’d love to get a week-long internship in their meetings. How do you face this kind of challenge in a constructive and enthusiastic manner 🤗
I agree, a pattern begins to emerge.
I hope you will be able to identify issues, find solutions and improve. Good luck!
As a McLaren fan, I wish you all the best in diagnosing and remedying the engine issues from Melbourne. :)
I'll be really happy if Lewis at least get one podium in the whole seoson and with this car, that feels like a big win for me
y'all choosing to not answer difficult questions is the most cavalier attitude that i've seen from this team that's been progressively getting worse over the last 3 years. with this attitude y'all deserve p5 and below in constructors
Really came to find out what they have to say... I am wondering what if anything they will change prior to 2026 to setup for a better era
The only question we all wanted was "do you understand where the pace is being lossed, and what are you doing to address it?"
There will be many driver changes coming up for the 2025 season. We wonder whether a possible option would be George Russel going to Red Bull and Mercedes acquiring Carlos Sainz and Sergio Perez.
Sergio is washed up
Why would Redbull take George?? When they can get Sainz
The focus should be on improving the pace but they are now chasing 3 teams, one of which is a customer team
I can only imagine what the people working day after day at Brackley and at the factory feel after a tough week-end... Keep going guys dont be discouraged,it will turn around at some point. ❤❤❤❤
Hope to see some improvement at Suzuka. Even marginal improvements at this point
Ok...here we go
🤣 damn my team fell off
I am a redbull fan through and through, had to deal with mercedes domination and saw what James Allison was capable of. But now I want that innovation to come back and take back the fight, is it possible to close the gap by summer break or isi it already a done deal?
most likely not until 2026, at the earliest. Merc just doesn't have it.
The 2026 engine is on another level to anything seen before. Most of the guys in engine build don’t think it’s possible a more powerful one has been made 😝
Redbull F1 team just has good fuel efficiency, FIA new rules will screw Redbull when they are applied, and Mercedes-Benz AMG F1 team is likely to be P1/P2 then. The ERS engine parts are currently what makes McLaren and Ferrari outperform, which new FIA rules will likely screw. So, the Mercedes-Benz AMG F1 team is the likely frontrunner in the long run.
The way Peres pulled away from Lewis was just insane. There is a HUGE gap to overcome.
It’s unforgivable that Mercedes hasn’t had a competitive car for 3 years now 😳
Must be their CFD program is off. Three misses in a row. On the other hand they won for 5-6 years in a row so their CFD worked then. None of it makes sense. They are the 5th best team three races in and that is a big fall.
@@davidLPST there are 21 races left. Mercedes will try to stay in top 3.
Last year Mercedes was second.
They are no way near fixing their car. Lewis made the right choice.
Can’t wait to see lewis on podium next year
Lewis should fix himself
@@SiegfriedDerDrachentoter fix what
lewis did, Ferrari didn't!
Wasn't Lewis on the hards before he retired? Don't know why James said he was on the mediums
Why dose the car feels different from one session to another?
Quali prediction Lewis P12-13 George P8-10
Queue to Lewis's reaction after qualifying in suzuka "😑"
guys, it's time to admit that you've made a dogs dinner out of these regs.
Hmm Glad To See "James" Still Has Something To Smile About, So Things Cant Be That Bad.. Right Guys !?!
If as they say that track temperature is not suitable if it's zusuka will again be a failure for merc as it's expected to be a wet race
Reconstruct the front wing for right airflow to channel through and around the car 🏎️🏎️🏎️because that is the main problem fix it James. We know there’s error in the aerodynamic with in the front wing which is changing the air flow for massive dawn force🕰️🏎️🔥🔥🏆🥇
How has it gone so wrong. 😕
How do you fix George cracking under pressure and complaining of all the time?
No background music please.
Have a feeling, Japan will surprise us!!!
You mean " kill"
Who George is helping ?
James is brilliant we know that, but we can’t expect that after complete change of car concept in the third year of regulations he will be able to create some miracles, it’s too late now unfortunately and we need to remember that he’s not the only person involved in designing, he needs more top engineers to work with and perhaps a new simulator
9:53 , but that's no fun for us viewers at home 😂 , we like to see big plumes of smoke and a few thrown conrods when engine oil pressure drops ;) - seriously this kind of monitoring is why F1 cars are so reliable these days
I know it's too late for this podcast, but could Lewis have made it to the box on electric power? I know that this will be a provision in the new Indycar rules for hybrids - the ability to drive a lap on the electric power only. The thinking is that it will cut down on safety car periods if spinners or cars with broken engines can "clear their own yellow flag". Seiko at Suzuka!
The problem is, this is the third year with a new concept, they NEED time to understand the car, it will be painfull butnthey gotta stick to it, go heads down and keep the concept for next year
I find that huge difference in balance and pace between FP3 and Quali, being put down to track characteristics - to be well too big.
There must be something totally fundamentally wrong to cause THAT much of a change.
You have to feel the team have changed SO much with this car, in responce to the car carrying over into 2025, the public reactions on social media and headlines made by Lewis and Toto - that they have lost themselves with what change has actually created which factor that they are experiencing.
There was always going to be teething problems with a brand new concept - it should not be a surprise there are some dips.
But when you see how Ferrari have improved, sticking to what they know - without a massive concept change by comparison to Mercedes... you soon realise that the zero-pod concept, was never the problem...
A fundamental understanding is missing, but hopefully there is scope to find it this year, so that 2025 is not a continuation of a decline.
Sir Lewis on softs and couldn't pass Yuki
has been
Better turn the engine up to twenty this weekend cause eleven aint cutting it.
I honestly really feel bad for Lewis. After losing a shot at his 8th title, he has had a slow car ever since. Lets see if that changes when he goes to ferrari
@@GreedRuinsEverything if he was gifted 4 then other drivers are also gifted no? you need a fast car to compete for a championship
Lewis clearly needs a extremely dominant car to compensate for his lack of ability. Lewis is OVERRATED
@@AZBCDE 🤣
It was rigged by liberty media and FIA to rob him because he is black
@@AZBCDE were gonna just completely forget the fact he tied with alonso in his rookie year?
3 years of 'We don't know why the car sucks." Genuinely sucks to be an engineer in such a situation.
All the best for suzuka!❤
At this point with the recent results that merc have giving us fans, I have already given up, this season is going to be just like the last two.
1:09 5:42 9:13 9:48 13:23 14:30
Ver: 7:04 7:20 8:44 8:55 10:53
Misc: 6:55 7:18 10:13 13:13
Is the restrictions on budget hampering the team to fix the issues? Or would you still still be struggling to understand that car?
Excellent material!
I'm sorry but track temperatures don't cause a deficit of 8 bloody tenths and a knock out in Q2...
Confidence in the car does though. George was quick at the end when they threw caution to the wind...but we know how that turned out.
We need a miracle from James for the next race.
We’re finished in sector 1 in suzuka 🤣
Bring Back the W13
It seems strange to me why there is any struggle to understand redbulls downforce in corners and pace on straights, they are using the cars own heat or exhaust to provide downforce. There's no other way they can have that much grip in cornering and low drag on the straights unless the car generates its own downforce that they can adjust. What boggles my mind is why other teams haven't managed to catchup, they did something very similar in 2005.
Simple. It does not work that way. You are simply wrong. You are talking about gas blown diffuser design of many years ago. At that time RB was still using Renault engines. Gas blown diffusor has been banned and no car is using it now. And the Renault engine design that enabled the gas blown diffusor was banned many years ago. That was a strange engine. When you lift off throttle, it produces the same volume flow exhaust gas. That is the killer feature that made gas blown diffusor worked.
@@catchnkill The design they used is banned, I'm not saying they're doing the same thing, I'm saying what they're doing has the same result. Whether that be from repurposing heat from the engine/exhaust to wash under the car with the help of an incoming stream of air, or actually using the exhaust flow in an interesting way that technically doesn't breach regulations. Other teams seem so focused on manipulating incoming air to provide all of the downforce, when optimising how much downforce you can create from the car itself should be the priority first. It's the only reason why Mercedes would create an innovation for incoming air manipulation and Redbull would adopt it, because their focus has been elsewhere. When a team copies the Redbull exterior and floor, they don't get the same on track results because it's not the external body of the car thats providing the edge, if anything that's actually behind others.
James, I'm curious why you and the team were so bullish after testing when the car is evidently worse than last year. Did the track configuration hide its weaknesses?
Remember in the 90's when Williams were champions over n over, then poof! That's merc right now, slowly getting to the back of the pack😢😢
A big n so successful team can come to today…..really really disappointed a lot of ppl
i still believe that 2021 was the best f1 season where you never knew who would win a race and they fought it out to the very end of the season and it came down to the very last race, however after that it seem like mercedes have fallen off, i am and have always been the biggest mercedes fan however after 2021 they are just not the same..and f1 has started loosing that appeal because in every race even before it starts you already know the winner and the win will be a very big margin. i just hope the rest of the grid can figure it out and make f1 more exciting again.
At this stage, why don’t we just copy Ferrari side pods design and test if it works for our car.
Maybe our way for this ground effect design isn’t as effective unless we go back to zero pods and making it work somehow
At no point in any weekend since 21 have you been confident in that car. Sad that merc have turned into a team fighting for the last point paying positions.
Year 3 of “Gathering Data” 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Exactly. Also year 3 of “learning ourselves and how to come back from loss”.
In James we trust
IN JAMES ALLISON I TRUST!
If Mercedes performed as well as James spoke then this team would win every week. Unfortunately the teams currently performing like a drunk Glaswegian 😂
Nothing up with drunk Glaswegians mate.
Let’s hope for some points next time team! P10 at least! You can do it! 😒
never ending pain :
Never ending tears of pain
@@AZBCDE pain since 2022 :(
3 years has past and Mercedes is still wondering whats wrong with the car, unbelivble 😤
Bro just got outclassed by newey during this generation of cars.
Same Debrief for the past 2 years. They need more personnel changes…they got too many chances to fix the issue and no changes!
They know they'll be belted by fans for their performances. Still they post a debrief video 😂😂😂. Great fan here, difficult times are part of the sport. Get through it and it will be rewarding
Can you remove the background music please so we can focus on what’s being said!
I still believe in James Allison words , l can make the car competitive again
At this point, all of R&D has to be on 2026, they just can't turn it around anymore...
The teams aren't allowed to start designing the 2026 cars until next year so no cfd or wind tunnel til then
These debriefs used to be a good insight into a team that was firing on all six cylinders but as the team's fortunes have declined they have descended into justification as to why they are failing so badly. Reading between the lines they really don't seem to understand what their problems are and how to solve them.
As an outsider looking in it is hard to gauge if the people involved are the reason and that they would benefit from some fresh thinking.
At the tail end of their period of dominance, there was the feeling that they had become too reliant on the process and the system, their data was driving the decision making which in the past would have been driven by racers with experience and instinct to make the decisive calls, "Why did you not pit Hamilton under the safety car", "The data was telling us that ........".
It is reflective in Hamilton deciding to leave, there is the logic on paper and "gut feel", Hamilton's gut feel is probably that Mercedes have lost their mojo, they can have all the meetings they like, discuss it to death, present a united front, but Hamilton is probably not convinced and that Ferrari, even if they prove not to have the answer, will be a different environment.
This debrief might have been better had Allison just said, "You know what we haven't a clue at the moment what the problem is, and we are searching for clues and at the moment devoid of ideas."
There has been one area that has been really irritating of Mercedes and that is their pit stop timings. Nothing to do with the car, design, drivers, but they have been for a long time now consistently losing a second or two to the other teams. If they are not the quickest, what are they doing about it?
We just gotta keep on pushing guys! 😀
I liked the last season short videos debrief rather than waffling for 20 mins about how bad you are
Yeah, let's put more work into our debrief videos than actually building our cars. Mercedes isn't my team anymore, gotta order my Ferrari 44 gear.
Mercedes is doing great, compared to Alpine!
I think there is something wrong with their simulator or windtunnel or analysis software… the designs are off
Explaining away the failures on track is always so awkward for F1 teams. All of the “reports” of max coming to Merc are an embarrassment…
It takes courage to do that. Some people call people who are multiple world champions loser etc. While who are you compared to these multi millionaires that are the best in the world.
i just cant take this team serious anymore