Most interesting. On the subject of recognition I did hear or read about the German Army recognition of Aircraft in the late part of the war. If upon looking up the planes are blue, they are British, if they are silver, they are American, and if they are not there, it is the Lufrwaffe....
Independently-rotating cupolas, turret-mounted antennae, unevenly-spaced wheels, and non-baggy berets. Got it. But what about the lack of black and white crosses?
Shade awkward that 'they' used 'our' tanks, and we used theirs. Much better to knock on the door of the tank and ask the chaps inside what side they are on.
I was totally confused as it kept jumping from German to brit tank often repeating the same stuff about things like aerials and commander cupular - naming the tank and showing its outline would of been helpful
The reason German Berets were so much larger than the British, is that German Tank Crews wore a short, close fitting helmet, and the sacky Beret covered it.
"Here you see a modern tank" ... A12 Matilda II... 0.o Then I realized just how old this film is... So anyways... if they're trying to help troops recognize vehicles used in WW2, why oh why do they keep going back to showing world war 1 tanks? The troops really didn't need to know about tanks that weren't used anymore.
GAWDS! That was boring! That Brit narrator was putting me to sleep and those ancient-ass tanks and armored cars were positively toys not fit for a sandbox! Still, when I was awake. it was fun to see to judge how much technology has changed for the better. Thanks for the vid.
Are you really going to see an antenna at 100 meters? Or a periscope at 50 meters? "Wait! Don't shoot Bob. That's one of ours. Do you see that commander's periscope?"
First of all, thanks for publishing these historical films. Absolutely fascinating. Second, do you have the continuation of this series? Would love to watch the rest. Third, you seem to have posted this video twice. The duplicate named "BRITISH TANKS AND ARMORED VEHICLES WORLD WAR II RECOGNITION FILM "FRIEND OR FOE" 34502" ruclips.net/video/2slMf53CM6I/видео.html Thanks again
as a historical document this film is priceless , if it does not suit the goldfish length attention span of some individuals , turn it off and stop pissing your pants over it
My father, a Normandy veteran) always referred to the First World War as The Great War or "14-18". Born on 1921 to a WW1 veteran, he grew up before the concept of a World War was recognised. It was essentially a European/Colonial war, with the US coming into the European theatre in late 1917. He called his own war "My war" or "the Second War". My grandfather (1892-1982) probably never used ordinal number for either war. It was a generational thing.
As instructional films go, this is an appalingly bad specimen. Having demanded close attention from the viewer, it proceeds to waste his time for 5 minutes and 44 seconds with information that is of no practical help whatsoever to a GI who must decide whether to let the steel box in his sight go on its way or to kill it without delay. Having thus rendered its spectators semiconscious with boredom, the film proceeds to drone on about how a light tank can hide, but without explaining how you can distinguish between a British box hiding in the trees and a German box hiding in the Forrest. Our verdict: as effective as the Dieppe Raid.
Certainly so, and it is highly indicative of the British inarticulacy that Max Hastings notes in Their Finest Years. A Total failure to understand the need to persuade!
+apud harald The British had a bad habit of taking forever to get to the point. Old US training films were as bad, then Hollywood was hired to make them and they improved significantly.
My oh my. In my misspent youth, I lived on and in a tank (M-551 Sheridan) for ten months. This video simply lost me. Quite possibly the worst military training film ever made. I could just see Brit soldiers nodding off in the projection rooms of that time.
General rule of thumb for FoF recognition, If it is crawling up your ass...it is probably friendly. If you are looking down the bore...It should be killed.
The German tanks were not much better than the British. It took the Russians with their T--34 to show us how it should be done. Sloping armour. Wide tracks to allow use in snow and mud with a good suspension. A diesel engine of good power to cut down on fire risk and give a decent perfomance. A gun of sufficient power to penetrate the German armour. Why they did not share their designs with their allies. G.B. & U.S. I don't know. We had too many types on the battlefield as well.
Well I must say this excuse of a film is completely Uninformative and undoubtably confusing to the chaps watching this hopefully it will fall into the hand of Jerry and confuse him even more.
Now you can see old chap why we had such problems 1939/1940 when the BEF left france and there tanks the Germans must have had a good laugh The Germans had better tanks throught the war and that's a fact Even the Sherman was poor in comparison it was only the numbers that won in the end
After the Dieppe raid the Germans thought that the newly-made Churchill tanks were old obsolete vehicles that were deliberately thrown away. However, that's not to say that the German tanks were better, they just had different priorities in design,
+K Woods It wasn't that the Germans had good tanks, the French had the best tanks in the world at the start of the war. It was that the Germans had a combined arms strategy and tactics. The French Cavalry and Infantry each had their own tanks and they had different requirements and used them differently and neither arm would play nice with the other arm.
Here's the issue: tens of thousands of films like this one were destroyed and many others are at risk. Our company preserves these precious bits of history one film at a time. How do we afford to do that? By selling them as stock footage to documentary filmmakers and broadcasters. If we did not have a counter, we could not afford to post films like this on online, and no films would be preserved. It's that simple. So we ask you to bear with the watermark and timecodes. So, in the past we tried many different systems including placing our timer at the bottom corner of our videos. What happened? Unscrupulous RUclips users downloaded our vids, blew them up so the timer was not visible, and re-posted them as their own content. We had to use content control to have the videos removed and shut down these channels. It's hard enough work preserving these films and posting them, without having to deal with these kind of issues.
Having it public is a fantastic idea, thank you periscope for your effort and use whatever Mark you need, it could be half the screen for all I care, I usually just listen to the audio
Most interesting. On the subject of recognition I did hear or read about the German Army recognition of Aircraft in the late part of the war. If upon looking up the planes are blue, they are British, if they are silver, they are American, and if they are not there, it is the Lufrwaffe....
The amount of smoke the WWI tanks put out is amazing. They look like they are on fire even when they are not on fire.
Well. The inaide of the engine is on fire.
"Look at this one"
It looks no less daft than our own tanks. It's amazing.
Hey Percy go stand by that tank so we can see how tall it so we can tell if it is British or German.
Independently-rotating cupolas, turret-mounted antennae, unevenly-spaced wheels, and non-baggy berets. Got it. But what about the lack of black and white crosses?
Thank you Mr chumly Warner when I'm out in the woods I know what to look for now,wonderful shots of great vintage tanks.
Shade awkward that 'they' used 'our' tanks, and we used theirs. Much better to knock on the door of the tank and ask the chaps inside what side they are on.
I was totally confused as it kept jumping from German to brit tank often repeating the same stuff about things like aerials and commander cupular - naming the tank and showing its outline would of been helpful
stabilization software!!!!!!
Don’t think was was invented yet in wwi.
The reason German Berets were so much larger than the British, is that German Tank Crews wore a short, close fitting helmet, and the sacky Beret covered it.
And the German "berets" were cushioned, too . . .
2:25 That drop looked painful.
it was , I believe a couple of the crew were knocked out cold during the demonstration for the King
I feel like it would be less confusing to just show the men pictures of all allied tanks.. if it's not one of those it's german.
So interesting to see the Matilda II as a relative speed demon 😂but I guess compared to WWI tanks it really was
Ring modulation producing a Dalekseque narration effect. Brilliant film though - great upload.
"Here you see a modern tank" ... A12 Matilda II... 0.o
Then I realized just how old this film is...
So anyways... if they're trying to help troops recognize vehicles used in WW2, why oh why do they keep going back to showing world war 1 tanks? The troops really didn't need to know about tanks that weren't used anymore.
It's to give them a frame of reference for the improvements made to tank design since the previous war.
GAWDS! That was boring! That Brit narrator was putting me to sleep and those ancient-ass tanks and armored cars were positively toys not fit for a sandbox! Still, when I was awake. it was fun to see to judge how much technology has changed for the better. Thanks for the vid.
Хороший фильм!🙂👍
Captain Mainwaring from Dad's Army should have been the narrator.
Wow! Where did you find these films? Ffffffffing awesome!
We've been saving rare films since 2001!
PeriscopeFilm Thankyou... 2011 I'm
late...better late than never.
Are you really going to see an antenna at 100 meters? Or a periscope at 50 meters? "Wait! Don't shoot Bob. That's one of ours. Do you see that commander's periscope?"
Yes.
Why are we being taught by a dalek
C'mon now- with all the different tanks and features, by the time you identify one, it has just rolled over you. LOL- Thanks for a good post.
First of all, thanks for publishing these historical films. Absolutely fascinating.
Second, do you have the continuation of this series? Would love to watch the rest.
Third, you seem to have posted this video twice. The duplicate named "BRITISH TANKS AND ARMORED VEHICLES WORLD WAR II RECOGNITION FILM "FRIEND OR FOE" 34502" ruclips.net/video/2slMf53CM6I/видео.html
Thanks again
as a historical document this film is priceless , if it does not suit the goldfish length attention span of some individuals , turn it off and stop pissing your pants over it
If its the enemy then our shells will bounce off them.
If it friendly it will blow up or burst into flames when hit by a shell.
the a7v was clumsy? it was 3times faster than even the ft17. and the chassis was better.
Funny to see them name WW1 "War 1914 - 1918" and "The Great War"
BigNick WW2 is also known as the Second Great War.
My father, a Normandy veteran) always referred to the First World War as The Great War or "14-18".
Born on 1921 to a WW1 veteran, he grew up before the concept of a World War was recognised.
It was essentially a European/Colonial war, with the US coming into the European theatre in late 1917.
He called his own war "My war" or "the Second War".
My grandfather (1892-1982) probably never used ordinal number for either war. It was a generational thing.
If it has a Black Cross you may shoot it if it has a white star you can't. In 1945 you have to respect a red star too. Over in 5 minutes.
Anybody know what tune that is they're playing at the opening sequence?
My boy willie is used as it was and is is the regimental march of the Royal Tank regiment
First tank used was by the British in ww1.
16:55 "and here's a German tank...". A Rheinmetall type Neubaufahrzug (one of the mild steel ones)!
Norweay killed one literally using only a swamp!
But now, The British army have the Challenger 2.
A-10 Warthog pilots could learn from this.
The "German" Tanksoldier at 12:49 have a Monokel ??? Hahahaha.
+Herr Unfassbar Yeah
+Herr Unfassbar You don't wear glasses if you only have one bad eye...
Monocle
As instructional films go, this is an appalingly bad specimen.
Having demanded close attention from the viewer, it proceeds to waste his time for 5 minutes and 44 seconds with information that is of no practical help whatsoever to a GI who must decide whether to let the steel box in his sight go on its way or to kill it without delay. Having thus rendered its spectators semiconscious with boredom, the film proceeds to drone on about how a light tank can hide, but without explaining how you can distinguish between a British box hiding in the trees and a German box hiding in the Forrest.
Our verdict: as effective as the Dieppe Raid.
+apud harald history documented. A product of its time.
Certainly so, and it is highly indicative of the British inarticulacy that Max Hastings notes in Their Finest Years. A Total failure to understand the need to persuade!
Yes.
+apud harald The British had a bad habit of taking forever to get to the point. Old US training films were as bad, then Hollywood was hired to make them and they improved significantly.
They also didn't mention names of most models...
My oh my. In my misspent youth, I lived on and in a tank (M-551 Sheridan) for ten months. This video simply lost me. Quite possibly the worst military training film ever made. I could just see Brit soldiers nodding off in the projection rooms of that time.
I'm a civilian, but as a World Of Tanks player, I'll say it's absolutely useless.
General rule of thumb for FoF recognition, If it is crawling up your ass...it is probably friendly. If you are looking down the bore...It should be killed.
This video was rendered essentially useless in no less than 3 years
Would be an excellent film to watch if it didn’t “ shake” 👎👎
The German tanks were not much better than the British. It took the Russians with their T--34 to show us how it should be done. Sloping armour. Wide tracks to allow use in snow and mud with a good suspension. A diesel engine of good power to cut down on fire risk and give a decent perfomance. A gun of sufficient power to penetrate the German armour. Why they did not share their designs with their allies. G.B. & U.S. I don't know. We had too many types on the battlefield as well.
Don't forget to mention that a t-34 was disposable. Also a t-34 would rarely last more then 3 battles good craftsmen ship totally!
Yep, uhuh..
they were early in the war. Japan made bad tanks too.
If it is ugly, unwieldy and slow then it's a British tank.
Well I must say this excuse of a film is completely Uninformative and undoubtably confusing to the chaps watching this hopefully it will fall into the hand of Jerry and confuse him even more.
CROMWELL TANK IS ONLY TANK.
APART FROM THE STUART LIGHT TANK, BUT UH..... SHUT UP!!!
Now you can see old chap why we had such problems 1939/1940
when the BEF left france and there tanks the Germans must have had a good laugh
The Germans had better tanks throught the war and that's a fact
Even the Sherman was poor in comparison it was only the numbers that won in the end
In 1939/40 most German tanks were the PzI and PzII.
The Germans would therefore have no reason to laugh too loud :-)
After the Dieppe raid the Germans thought that the newly-made Churchill tanks were old obsolete vehicles that were deliberately thrown away.
However, that's not to say that the German tanks were better, they just had different priorities in design,
***** Sherman Firefly used a 17 pounder not a 6 pounder ;)
+K Woods It wasn't that the Germans had good tanks, the French had the best tanks in the world at the start of the war. It was that the Germans had a combined arms strategy and tactics. The French Cavalry and Infantry each had their own tanks and they had different requirements and used them differently and neither arm would play nice with the other arm.
The Germans had early Pzr III/iv which were no match for the English and French tanks....sorry WoT boys but war is not about tanks.
mmm the Italians & French were far worse,
Why not use a bigger water mark? I'm sure you can make it more annoying with a little more effort.
Here's the issue: tens of thousands of films like this one were destroyed and many others are at risk. Our company preserves these precious bits of history one film at a time. How do we afford to do that? By selling them as stock footage to documentary filmmakers and broadcasters. If we did not have a counter, we could not afford to post films like this on online, and no films would be preserved. It's that simple. So we ask you to bear with the watermark and timecodes.
So, in the past we tried many different systems including placing our timer at the bottom corner of our videos. What happened? Unscrupulous RUclips users downloaded our vids, blew them up so the timer was not visible, and re-posted them as their own content. We had to use content control to have the videos removed and shut down these channels. It's hard enough work preserving these films and posting them, without having to deal with these kind of issues.
Honestly, you should sell them as collector items and hobby items.
Having it public is a fantastic idea, thank you periscope for your effort and use whatever Mark you need, it could be half the screen for all I care, I usually just listen to the audio
It looks cool and its outside the actual media, and it shifts a bit with the lower menu bar, that's neat, not annoying
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Xz
This is a British tank. Do you see?
This is a German tank. Do you see?