that's the HBCU band culture. People get more caught up in the competitiveness and pettiness that at the end of the day they forget that band directors are educators and the band members are kids trying to get educations and be successful in life and their talent just happens to be paying for that education. Then the loudest people in these situations don't have degrees, never marched for a college so have no idea wtf they're talking about and probably salty because no college wanted them, probably never wrote a song and probably can't read music outside of a basic level.
This is just tomfoolery. Just because some Juke stans don't like it that JSU's and TSU's bands are now playing Southern's power game, they want to oust Doc Taylor?? Really??? No, Doc Greggs and Carnell Knighten are not rising up from the grave to bring back the "glory days"; and, no, Brian Simmons isn't leaving TxSU. Doc Taylor is more than good enough holding down the Jukes. They are HBCU bands, not the SEC. They need to stand down.
Taylor is fine, it's those assistants that need to step it up. Haymer/Simmon's era really had us spoiled with the aggression, quality arrangements, and the frequent output of multiple arrangements. Unfortunately, those moments will never come back, so we need to move forward.
Thanks for your comments, some of these folks just move on being negative otherwise they do not support anything positive - what qualifies them on being band critics, they should know that negative politics got Haymer out and Simmons didn't have the proper credentials at the time Haymer was ousted😮
This is crazy what I am hearing. You are going to have change when you have a change in directors. In Southern’s case, you will never see much change because there is a system in place, but a new director may add his own twist to it. As for Brian, Brian was/is a great arranger and hype person, but when you become a head band director, you leave that part up to ur assistants. The head director focus mostly on the design of field shows and the administration/business side of the music program. Now I must admit the song selection this year by Southern was subpar at best, but the music in today’s time is subpar. Most of the bands wants to play the updated R&B songs and rap songs, which very few people know what they are playing. In most cases, SU is going to be louder than the other band and most people are used of that, so you have to play songs that people can relate to, which is not happening, but that is minor. In my opinion, which doesn’t count for much😂😂, but I don’t think leadership needs to change, just a little tweaking. As far as J-State, if it wasn’t for J-State trumpets, da boom would have been normal SWAC band just like any other year. We all must remember, being a head band director is very difficult, especially at a university like Southern, It’s more than filed shows and pop/rap music. A head director has a lot on his/her plate.
No the rest of j states band is pushing watts trumpets alone can not do that 😂 that’s that su delusion jsu trombones wall of sound never stops the baritones do they thing . The mellos killing the tubas provide that nice full sound even tho they weren’t the best this year and jsu arrangements are what kept them on top not just trumpets and jsu got some of the best woodwinds in the swac to so that excuse is bs . ARRANGEMENTS is what has made jsu so great for the past 2 years that’s what southern has lacked and they don’t like the fact that jsu is the most balanced band in the swac even when j state didn’t have trumpets they were still one of the top programs but y’all need to stop that trumpet bs like they other sections not killing .
This shit is unreal. I said it just the other night with yall idk if I even wanna cover this stuff anymore because of this goofy reality internet era band is in . Everything has to be a drama show or have a back story. If it’s that simple to get him out, that’s crazy.
I'm going to have to disagree with you. A lot of the top-notch programs around the country. Not only in band but in athletic sports. Do the same thing. If you are not living up to the standard of that program, they want you replaced. It is as simple as that.
I posted this on Facebook this morning and everybody coming at me talking about false rumors and etc. I'm like, Don't kill the messenger, I'm just posting what I just saw.
We want Haymer and Brian back but unfortunately that won't happen. Dr. Taylor is just not it sorry but I'm not wishing bad on him just being honest. SU has gotten boring under his leadership.
Mr. Luke I think you forget how political the SU Job is the the predecessor band director wrote a book about the situation the guy before him got pushed out of his office he didn't actually retire
@PassionIsNetwork Ok yes the hate she gets is funny to me considering it's the same people that praised the WAP performance. But the alumni of certain Universities IE and you know your self Entertainment Tonight... Can be very powerful. No names but it does have some common traits of a certain Region like the KANGs and ñem
This because yall fans yall fans are crazy they got southern thinking they on the decline no jsu just been inclining the whole time and su been stagnant
We help our band probably more than anyone. We don't know who posted that mess and it likely is no one associated with the Jukebox since they did it under an anonymous alias. So, don't put that mess on Juke Aluns. Don't give the fool(s) that did this that negative energy towards Jukes that they want.
Honestly not surprised considering all the negative discussion that has been discussed about the current state of the Juke in comparison to what the band was before he became director. If you look at some of the comments on their video you will see people asking why they do not play songs that predate the current staff and some asking why the school chose Dr. Taylor over Simmons.
SU has always played top 40 songs year to year. The songs that predate some of the current staff Southern played them when those songs were Top 40 radio hits
@@HnA408 I think some of the issues that some fans have is more to do with the current arrangements. But even with that observations you have to give the listener what they want or they will lash out which is what we are currently seeing.
And if he go someone worser might come in. Nothing wrong with The human jukebox they still sound good and still one of the top bands. Yall just mad cause yall struggle to be on top of The Sonic Boom. That’s not a reason to get rid of a band director that’s has done, is doing, and will be doing a good job with the band.
That would be completely foolish of them to remove Dr.Taylor . The band has grown every year since he took over so obviously enrollment is up. I see more kids staying and graduating more than ever and the band is still top 2 or 3 out of HBCUs and probably in the top 10 in the country JSU really have some these fan boys in their feelings, SU been dominating for years let someone else have a run. Y’all will be just fine.
@Kc20243 lol before RUclips I hear you... So with that being said have you called the news channel negative. They report our yes yours and mine Sport of Bands. From a band directors point of view. Not as a fan or just for positive people like you and I. Yes they have covered some negative stuff but true stuff. If you comment on a public channel expect to deal with the commenters giving you their opinions about your opinions. You wasn't talking to me but you have been talked to. Take it or leave it. CPhiC 98 The Whalephants Have Spoken lol but for real you have a point so blessings and respect.
I think people forget these are educators not entertainers… that’s crazy
that's the HBCU band culture. People get more caught up in the competitiveness and pettiness that at the end of the day they forget that band directors are educators and the band members are kids trying to get educations and be successful in life and their talent just happens to be paying for that education. Then the loudest people in these situations don't have degrees, never marched for a college so have no idea wtf they're talking about and probably salty because no college wanted them, probably never wrote a song and probably can't read music outside of a basic level.
He's a good man and he love his job and it shows thank man for speaking out on this
This is just tomfoolery. Just because some Juke stans don't like it that JSU's and TSU's bands are now playing Southern's power game, they want to oust Doc Taylor?? Really??? No, Doc Greggs and Carnell Knighten are not rising up from the grave to bring back the "glory days"; and, no, Brian Simmons isn't leaving TxSU. Doc Taylor is more than good enough holding down the Jukes. They are HBCU bands, not the SEC. They need to stand down.
Taylor is fine, it's those assistants that need to step it up. Haymer/Simmon's era really had us spoiled with the aggression, quality arrangements, and the frequent output of multiple arrangements. Unfortunately, those moments will never come back, so we need to move forward.
4 directors should be able to put out decent music
@@johnh8705 I agree, but their focus seems to be elsewhere.
Real talk and it's so easy to out somebody these days And they never played in a band
Thanks for your comments, some of these folks just move on being negative otherwise they do not support anything positive - what qualifies them on being band critics, they should know that negative politics got Haymer out and Simmons didn't have the proper credentials at the time Haymer was ousted😮
This is crazy what I am hearing. You are going to have change when you have a change in directors. In Southern’s case, you will never see much change because there is a system in place, but a new director may add his own twist to it. As for Brian, Brian was/is a great arranger and hype person, but when you become a head band director, you leave that part up to ur assistants. The head director focus mostly on the design of field shows and the administration/business side of the music program. Now I must admit the song selection this year by Southern was subpar at best, but the music in today’s time is subpar. Most of the bands wants to play the updated R&B songs and rap songs, which very few people know what they are playing. In most cases, SU is going to be louder than the other band and most people are used of that, so you have to play songs that people can relate to, which is not happening, but that is minor. In my opinion, which doesn’t count for much😂😂, but I don’t think leadership needs to change, just a little tweaking. As far as J-State, if it wasn’t for J-State trumpets, da boom would have been normal SWAC band just like any other year. We all must remember, being a head band director is very difficult, especially at a university like Southern, It’s more than filed shows and pop/rap music. A head director has a lot on his/her plate.
No the rest of j states band is pushing watts trumpets alone can not do that 😂 that’s that su delusion jsu trombones wall of sound never stops the baritones do they thing . The mellos killing the tubas provide that nice full sound even tho they weren’t the best this year and jsu arrangements are what kept them on top not just trumpets and jsu got some of the best woodwinds in the swac to so that excuse is bs . ARRANGEMENTS is what has made jsu so great for the past 2 years that’s what southern has lacked and they don’t like the fact that jsu is the most balanced band in the swac even when j state didn’t have trumpets they were still one of the top programs but y’all need to stop that trumpet bs like they other sections not killing .
If you read Haymers book, then you may think is called Karma
EXACTLY!!!!! That book is wild!
Whaattt ...what book is that...talk to me@@DeeJay35
@@malawilake40it's called Juked. I think it's on Amazon.
👀 BOOK⁉️ First Gabrielle, now Haymer 😲 Lemme go be nosey...
This shit is unreal. I said it just the other night with yall idk if I even wanna cover this stuff anymore because of this goofy reality internet era band is in . Everything has to be a drama show or have a back story. If it’s that simple to get him out, that’s crazy.
I'm going to have to disagree with you. A lot of the top-notch programs around the country. Not only in band but in athletic sports. Do the same thing. If you are not living up to the standard of that program, they want you replaced. It is as simple as that.
I posted this on Facebook this morning and everybody coming at me talking about false rumors and etc. I'm like, Don't kill the messenger, I'm just posting what I just saw.
Is it really that deep?? I'm curious as to why they want him out so bad
I think the biggest problem is the talent.. not the band directors but perhaps that’s just me
We want Haymer and Brian back but unfortunately that won't happen. Dr. Taylor is just not it sorry but I'm not wishing bad on him just being honest. SU has gotten boring under his leadership.
Mr. Luke I think you forget how political the SU Job is the the predecessor band director wrote a book about the situation the guy before him got pushed out of his office he didn't actually retire
While that may be true this is not a thing synonymous to SU, hence using the CookingwithKya example
@PassionIsNetwork Ok yes the hate she gets is funny to me considering it's the same people that praised the WAP performance. But the alumni of certain Universities IE and you know your self Entertainment Tonight... Can be very powerful. No names but it does have some common traits of a certain Region like the KANGs and ñem
All these comments about brian!! Yall not getting brian back so yall can forget it
It's a cold game
This because yall fans yall fans are crazy they got southern thinking they on the decline no jsu just been inclining the whole time and su been stagnant
@@jericoyouharrison9748southern is on the decline 😂😂😂
Was that your signature on it?
@jericoyouharrison9748 a JSU niccuh posted that that petition. It had 1 signature when posted in band uncut.
@@jericoyouharrison9748 I have noticed some changes the last years that only increased after Simmons left, but I don't necessarily think it's all bad
The question I'm gonna ask is what are THEY doing to help HIM get the band better.
We help our band probably more than anyone. We don't know who posted that mess and it likely is no one associated with the Jukebox since they did it under an anonymous alias. So, don't put that mess on Juke Aluns. Don't give the fool(s) that did this that negative energy towards Jukes that they want.
@@edwinmoore357lies.
I use trash when it comes to Grambling’s Band holding onto its past
That’s crazy
🤔🤔🤔 maybe 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Honestly not surprised considering all the negative discussion that has been discussed about the current state of the Juke in comparison to what the band was before he became director. If you look at some of the comments on their video you will see people asking why they do not play songs that predate the current staff and some asking why the school chose Dr. Taylor over Simmons.
SU has always played top 40 songs year to year. The songs that predate some of the current staff Southern played them when those songs were Top 40 radio hits
@@HnA408wrong answer
@@dirtysprite6312 more of my observations and opinion than fact. But what the answer you’re looking for?
Simmons didn't have his master's degree back then
@@HnA408 I think some of the issues that some fans have is more to do with the current arrangements. But even with that observations you have to give the listener what they want or they will lash out which is what we are currently seeing.
Southern band been on the decline since Taylor been head band director. Southern needs Simmons back.
I signed it he needs to go your way of thinking is very antiquated
Too bad that shit don’t exist no more. Dummy
And if he go someone worser might come in. Nothing wrong with The human jukebox they still sound good and still one of the top bands. Yall just mad cause yall struggle to be on top of The Sonic Boom. That’s not a reason to get rid of a band director that’s has done, is doing, and will be doing a good job with the band.
Just hating for no reason
That would be completely foolish of them to remove Dr.Taylor . The band has grown every year since he took over so obviously enrollment is up. I see more kids staying and graduating more than ever and the band is still top 2 or 3 out of HBCUs and probably in the top 10 in the country JSU really have some these fan boys in their feelings, SU been dominating for years let someone else have a run. Y’all will be just fine.
Man please. JSU has always been that band. The empty noise from fanboys like you perpetuated the narrative that sudden was good.
Every time I watch your videos it always seems so negative. Maybe it's just me. And I'm not talking about this particular one just in general
@@Kc20243 he’s reporting the news in the band world, so maybe the band world is negative did you ever think that
Really I think you are missing the point or just not a band head
@justinjackson3623 I've been a band head before there was a RUclips. And I wasn't talking to you
@@mr.32k No it isn't he gives a lot of his opinions and it's usually just negative
@Kc20243 lol before RUclips I hear you... So with that being said have you called the news channel negative. They report our yes yours and mine Sport of Bands. From a band directors point of view. Not as a fan or just for positive people like you and I. Yes they have covered some negative stuff but true stuff. If you comment on a public channel expect to deal with the commenters giving you their opinions about your opinions. You wasn't talking to me but you have been talked to. Take it or leave it. CPhiC 98 The Whalephants Have Spoken lol but for real you have a point so blessings and respect.
I’m in tears watching this. Kedric is not making the Juke great. The band has lost its iconic discipline, and they are sloppy. Please remove Kedric