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You got it badly wrong.
No hockey players are coming from Monatana, Idaho, Wyoming...that WAS ALL CANADA....
The hockey belt is the Canadian boarder...not Americans in northern Montana
Growing up on the prairies of Canada .. we used to play hockey on the many outdoor rinks, after school and on weekends. We'd play street hockey on the streets .. and floor hockey during gym class. It was hockey, hockey and more hockey and when we weren't playing it we were watching it on TV or playing EA NHL in our rooms. It was everything for 8 months of the year. We had three outdoor rinks behind my elementary school so there was no lack of ice and most other neighbourhoods had similar numbers of outdoor rinks. There were also many indoor facilities for youth hockey players to play and develop there skills.
One of key differences between Canada and many places in the US is established popularity of the sport .. most kids in Canada from a very young age would watch hockey with their dad on Saturday nights, but an even bigger difference is the climate. Canadian, cities, towns and villages can easily build outdoor rinks for the kids to play the game. You could work on your skating, working on your puck handling and work on your shooting hours a day. There are no outdoor rinks in most of the US, because it is too warm. Kids don't watch it because their parents don't watch it. Places like Winnipeg, Calgary, Ottawa and Edmonton are not the biggest cities in the NHL, but are hockey mad markets and draw crowds because the sport is much more than a game in Canada.
And yet people don't show up for Winnipeg or Ottawa games. There is no competition from other leagues. Imagine if there was. New York and L.A. do way more in revenue then Winnipeg, Ottawa, and Calgary do.
Even in cities in the United States where the climate is cold enough for outdoor rinks like we have (or had - they don’t seem as common at schools in Saskatoon as they used to be when I was a kid 60 years ago) there’s no space for them. We used to have rinks behind every school. How many schools in US cities have that kind of space?
@@ImaCOTV What do you mean by that kind of space?
Some of the more southerly Canadian cities like Toronto, Hamilton, Ottawa have quite a few outdoor rinks with artificial ice with time reserved for open shinny. A lot of kids these days are playing shinny in the summer on roller blades. This reminds me that when I was a kid in the early 50s in Toronto we had a fairly long season on outdoor natural rinks. Those days have been long gone.
Canada produces not only the average hockey players but all the BEST hockey Stars!
In the warmer areas with no snow and frozen lakes, hockey is a rich kid’s sport because parents need to pay for rink time. It’s not like they can just skate down to their local pond.
I live near the Canadian border in WA. I grew up within 20 miles of dozens of current NHL players, many of them elite, and none of them are American.
It’s strange how an invisible line can impact the local culture so greatly.
Hardly any rinks when you cross into WA. Culture drives infrastructure.
The 3Ms of Hockey: Minnesota, Michigan, and Massachusetts. NY is #4 there. Even someone like the Tkachuks, they grew up in St. Louis, but where is daddy Keith from? MA. Why it was so devastating when the North Stars moved.
California and Illinois are booming with hockey playing talent. Illinois is number 5 in men's NCAA players (in major part because of the Blackhawks Cups and relative wealth there) despite having no NCAA program in the state.
Hell even Hartford should try for expansion. Smaller market, but still surrounded by other small markets and massive markets. It would be successful if they have a new arena in a good location.
There's probably an alternate universe where Wisconsinite JJ Watt became an NHLer.
Pat LaFontaine is from Missouri, I do believe.
Nova Scotia is quality over quantity
I’m an Avs fan from Denver living in Dallas, and the stars are doing a lot down here to try and get more youth playing
They've been doing it since I moved in 2000. Went from dormant to having Texas talent
One statistic that surprised me years back. The greater Cleveland area has not had an nhl franchise since 1978 yet year in year out is one of the biggest producers of US players in the nhl.
yeah the NHL went to Columbus instead to "grow the game"
right? same old story
that's why they failed in phoenix and Atlanta twice, that's why the NHL has never gone to Portland, or Milwaukee
that's why the NHL doesn't expand into Hamilton or Quebec City...they want to die in Southern markets like Houston
@@sampicano I could see Houston doing ok. You'd have a natural rivalry with Dallas, and there is at least some history there with the Aeros.
I'm from a town of less than 3,000 people. We've had the cup brought home twice. I went to the backyard BBQ at the house of the parents of the guy who won it. When I got a little older I played with or against about a half dozen guys that went on to play in the NHL. I'm hunting/fishing buddies with current and former NHL coaches/managers that you've definitely heard of.
It wasn't until I was older and out of hockey that I realized that's not exactly a normal experience that everyone gets.
Do the football and baseball heat maps. California, Texas, and Florida will be on fire.
True. Just shows the imbalance. Athletes are everywhere, but what they play depends on geography
The hockey belt makes me more disgusted that Wisconsin is a bit of a hole in the belt. The problem is that there's is no NHL team in Wisconsin. They keep ignoring a huge untapped market because, allegedly, the Blackhawks keep preventing Milwaukee or any other city in Wisconsin from having a professional hockey team because "it's their market."
In the '90s, the NHL made it impossible for Milwaukee to get a team. They intentionally set a fee so high that nobody in Milwaukee could pay it. They aren't ignoring that market, they're suppressing it.
This is why the NHL has stagnated for the last 10-15 years when all other Major Leagues have grown exponentially faster.
How about building half way between Milwaukee and Green Bay and they could share a team??- or put a team in Madison and build up the youth leagues?
Milwaukee or Portland
The only two hockey markets in the United States deserving of an NHL team
Milwaukee would have NHL if they didn’t have the Bucks. Not enough corporate dollars and too small of a metro population to support two winter pro teams
@@JHockeyFan Milwaukee would have NHL if Gary Bettman wasn't focused solely on the south...Vegas, Nashville, Raleigh, Tampa, Dallas, San Jose, Phoenix, Atlanta, Columbus....
He doesn't support hockey in the North...he added a team in Saint Paul and Winnipeg, but he TOOK THEM AWAY FIRST
Wisconsin is TOP TEN in hockey registration...
Wisconsin Badgers NCAA average more fans than ANY other amateur team (outside like North Dakota)
Maddison Wisconsin is like 45 minutes away from Milwaukee....694,345 people
If a top ten state in hockey CAN'T support an NHL team, then RELOCATE EVERY TEAM IN THE STATES...just move them all because hockey markets don't exist there apparently
Too many hockey teams do not advertise the teams in a big way. Not enough advertising. Billboards in significant numbers, commercials, radio commercials, etc. would go a long way.
The VGK are certainly not among that here in Vegas. During the season, I see a few on the freeways, and then I see the logo on random businesses, as well as merchandise being sold randomly in various places. They’re certainly doing a lot in marketing, and the other teams should follow that model!
You can go to Cleveland, Portland....hockey markets and ask them who McDavid or Ovechkin or Bedard are and they have NO IDEA...
You can go to HOCKEY MARKETS IN THE STATES AND THEY DON'T KNOW HOCKEY PLAYERS....it is truly where hockey goes to die
@@sampicano It does when it tries to compete with the NFL, NBA and the college levels of those two sports.
Gary Bettman could be commissioner for another 30+ years and he still wouldn't be able to change this reality.
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More rinks in the Northern/Northeast US. Especially in the 3 M states, New York, greater New England. Minor hockey has been established there for a long time, community, HS, and NCAA hockey entrenched in Minnesota culture. Lack of access in most of the rural/poorer US to hockey rinks, thus less exposure to the sport.
really needed to shrink the us map to overlay the 2, the line was way off the border except for the quebec new england part
you was putting the border too high up. hockey belt would be Vancouver -> Calgary/Edmonton -> Winnipeg -> Toronto/Ottawa -> Montreal -> Philly/dc -> NYC -> Boston with hotspots of Minnesota/Michigan Chicago STL Pittsburg.
I live currently in the American. Originally from Canada. 20 years ago, I was the only hockeu fan in my area. But the last 5 years, there's been an explosion of hockey either who've relocated here or got into hockey from friends. Surprising how many Southern Maericans are fans of Canadian NHL teams. Tons of Canucks fans in South Carolina. Also, lots of Sabres and Penguins fans.
With the relocation of the Coyotes, it makes you wonder if the Leafs will find themselves adopted by some fans in Arizona.
Fans in Atlantic Canada have become Penguins' fans because of Sidney Crosby.
The Canucks' following in South Carolina is certainly an intriguing one.
If you want to generate interest in a non traditional market, start the cheapest way possible.
That's with floor hockey and street hockey. You use mostly sticks, hockey ball, and gloves. Some wear padding because they block shots. The goaltender is the only one that has the padding cost $800 or more. In street hockey you might want sliders on your pads. Floor hockey, no sliders.
There are floor hockey leagues in Canada and their rules are similar to ringette, or field lacrosse where defense, and offense can't leave their zone, except for the centre position. Since it's played in a gym and boards are added to keep the ball from going out of bounds.
Street hockey has outside rinks without the ice and you play on concrete. Not sure if there's street hockey leagues in Canada but it's the most commonly played.
Your 2nd most costly is inline hockey and ball hockey. You have a rink, and floor to play on. Equipment is much cheaper except for goaltenders. They use a specialized puck. It's lighter than a ice hockey puck too.
Another is ball hockey. Again played in a rink. The rules are nearly exactly the same as inline hockey except there's no skates and you use a ball.
The biggest issue with ice hockey is that it is no longer a blue collar sport. Skates are expensive. To generate interest you need to adjust to the cost, landscape, and work outward.
When I was a kid in the Toronto area, we played street hockey a lot. We just had two nets, a tennis ball, and sticks. Goalies had a trapper and blocker set of gloves, plus either old goalie pads or thick foam rectangles with buckles wrapped around them. Creates interest in hockey, but you won't make it to the NHL playing street or floor hockey. I'm exhibit A. I was a good street and floor hockey player, but my skating wasn't near good enough.
@@michaelmarkowski204 True, but most can't afford to play ice hockey anymore. It's losing its identity of being a blue collar sport. You can thank the mid 90's for that.
@@MrAnonymous-dt2gi Agree. Also, because of new Canadians coming from other countries, soccer is becoming more and more popular in Canada for both boys and girls because it's inexpensive to participate in organized league play. When I was a kid (1970s), there was only one kid in our entire neighborhood (we had loads of boys all around the same age) who played soccer - he was of English / Scottish descent. We never played soccer amongst ourselves.
@@michaelmarkowski204 I moved over to lacrosse myself. Equipment is half the price even for goaltenders.
That was a fun video to watch. Thanks Brodie.
About 90% of Canadians live in the south of Canada within 100 miles of the US border (where it is warmest). In America, the interest of hockey will be greatest in the north of the country (where it is coldest). Hence, the "Hockey Belt".
The game’s demographics have changed immensely. Go back 30 years and almost 80% of players were from Canada. Many Canadian team’s best players are American too. Vancouver, Toronto and Winnipeg are good examples of this.
Too bad those teams in Toronto and Winnipeg are not built for the playoffs.
@@FischerFan Toronto 100%. Winnipeg at least made a conference final in 2018, but they too have recently struggled.
Georgia has 2000 registered players. The city of Kelowna pop 155k had 1500 or so last season.
the part you drew the arrows to is mostly southern Ontario and eastern Ontario were probably 30-40% of Canadians live
You should do a map of the 'curling belt'! Canada has close to a million registered curlers while the U.S. has 23,500.
The belt will be much narrower. In Canada, the curling hotbed will be the prairie provinces while in the U.S., it will be Minnesota and Wisconsin.
One of the biggest problems is getting people in non-traditional hockey markets to play hockey is the expense. It is easily the most expense sport out there between ice time, equipment, and travel. Sports like soccer, football, baseball, and a few others I could name just don't have the overhead investment that hockey requires.
@1:11 - While we glance at that short list, let's review which countries were represented in the inaugural Canada Cup in 1976....almost 50 years ago!:
Canada
U.S.S.R
Czechoslovakia
Sweden
Finland
U.S.A.
Slovakia was originally part of Czechoslovakia. Switzerland and Germany are realistic additions. Otherwise, let's just deal with the fact that ice hockey, like downhill skiing, is a regional sport.
A better indicator for 2024 Hockey USA would be to do a map of where American NCAA hockey players are from. Both Men and Women. There might be some surprising results, but Minnesota, Michigan and Massachusetts are hockey factories and strangely North / South Dakota and Montana don’t produce a lot of hockey talent.
The current edition of the Vancouver Canucks only have three Canadian players. I think the team has the most Americans of any team.
Hockey proficiency is a numbers game. It’s about ice time. Canadian players have unlimited outdoor ice time in the winter. They have the same thing in Sweden, Finland and Russia. The difference with the European countries and Canada though is most of the European kids play soccer.
How do you build the game outside of the “Hockey Belt?” The obvious answer is to do what they do in the “Hockey Belt.” You build from the bottom up. There are three key factors: Organization, Facilities, and Affordability. You have to get the kids young- in Canada the “TimBits” leagues start when kids are 5 and 6, and you have to support them all the way to Major Junior (in Canada) and College (in the US) hockey. You need indoor rinks; the city where I live in Saskatchewan has about 350,000 people and at least a dozen indoor ice surfaces, and it’s not enough for local youth hockey. And because hockey equipment is so expensive ($50 to $100 and up for sticks $75 and up for hockey skates, not to mention all of the other protective gear) and kids grow out of it so fast, you need to find a way to get equipment - not necessarily new equipment - for kids who want to play, not just those who can afford to play.
That’s how you grow the game.
Practice facilities in NHL cities that also cater to the public with Adult hockey classes, stick times, learn to play days and an equipment co-op. You can watch the pros practice then jump on the ice yourself. How cool is that.
I'm Canadian and hockey has always been king in Canada and there isn't much competition. We have no NFL teams, one MLB and one NBA team and both are in Toronto. We do have a professional football league (CFL) but it struggles to attract young fans and players. As someone else pointed out, in almost every region of Canada, winters are cold enough for outdoor rinks, which are very inexpensive (if not free) to maintain and use. Hockey is part of our identity and when I was a kid (1960's) almost all players in the NHL were Canadian. So in essence the league has grown both in the number and location of the teams and the nationality of players. I still find the idea of teams in the sun belt quite bizarre.
Conclusion: The NHL has overgrown itself South of the natural hockey belt.
Look Brodie, for every Auston Matthews, how many elite players come from North of the 40th parallel?
Your never going to end up in NHL if you didn't start with a "rink" in your yard.
I am an Oilers fan living in Los Angeles and the Kings practice rink is a really good rink that I practice hockey at, unfortunately you have to be stuck in traffic to get there
El Segundo location? I was working in LA hockey when my boss bought property to build a facility for Kings and Lakers..location chosen because Kings players typically live in the area…Hermosa Manhattan Redondo Beach. We had a rink in the San Fernando Valley..the Iceoplex but too long a drive for the NHL guys. Culver City was their practice rink at one time. One of our recreational players built a rink in Santa Clarita in late 90’s, I think. Ice there is also good.
And Pickwick Ice Arena in Burbank received upgrade in recent years…
@@mercywilliams2698 Yes the Toyota Sports Performance Center in El Segundo
The NHL could have a game in a minor league facility with NHL teams facing off such as the Kings and Maple Leafs play in Greenville, SC because the Swamp Rabbits are affiliated with the Kings and a team from Ontario in AHL. The games count in the standings and publicity would be big in that town.
Sometimes I’ll go to “stick and puck /Gretzky hour” at 6-7 am and have an entire sheet of ice for myself here in California. (Not San Jose)
Los Angeles?
As late as the 1970s, the NHL consisted of about 75 - 80% Canadians. The USA has really produced some great talent since then. Maybe it started with the Miracle On Ice in 1980....? Also, there used to be a much higher % of NHLers from the province of Quebec than there are now. A large chunk of the most skilled offensive players in the NHL (speed / stickhandling / playmaking / shooting) were French Canadians.
There used to be more Scandinavians until the KHL took off. (Russian oligarchs see no purpose of a salary cap, and their payrolls are something like double).
Some idiots don't know that they're being paid in blood money.
Here's a problem with Sunbelt hockey. In Michigan, Ontario, certainly Manitoba, and all of the northern reaches, the winters are moslty uniformly cold enough to keep lakes and ponds frozen from late October to late March. In the South, it rains more than it snows in the winter. That said, it is pretty much a birthright for any kid from MI, MA, ME, or MB to lace up the skates and head on down to the local pond for a game. In the South and West, you need to have an indoor ice rink available. It has to be reasonably close by or you have a parent or someone free and able to shuttle you to the rink. You have to have parents with sufficient wealth to pay for rink access. That's all in addition to buying all the gear required...The effect of all of this is that in the northern states and provinces, hockey is an egalitarian sport, with access to pretty much all who want to play it. In the South and West it becomes much more of a blueblood sport. You can play hockey if you live in Anaheim, Atlanta, Denver, Palm Springs, Phoenix, Raleigh, or Scottsdale - places with rinks, and the wealth to make it possible. A kid from Moose Jaw can make it to the NHL. A kid from Texarkana by and large can't, barring extremely unusual circumstances. This is a weather problem that NHL can't solve, and probably one of the arguments that "hockey snobs" use for keeping the sport in the North. But for the NHL it's a question of money, so they keep moving south. So you'll continue to see these hockey islands cropping up around NHL cities there, but not much, if any, out in the cotton fields...Interesting maps indeed...
I don't know about now, but Minnesotans could make up 2 whole team rosters at one point, I'm sure it's still over 5% of the NHL is Minnesota born
Unlike basketball, baseball, football, and soccer, ice hockey is the most expensive sport for kids to play and also requires indoor rinks for league play. Canada and the northeastern USA have tons of indoor rinks already built in past decades and still in good condition. Used to be that the winters were cold for long enough stretches of time that outdoor rinks could be flooded and maintained, but no longer, at least not in Southern Ontario (climate change...?).
The canada part is basically just straight corollary with population (most (~80%) of canadas population is within 100 - 120 miles of the border)
The border goes much lower around southern Ontario , that’s where most of the players are from!
Looks like a population density map of Canada…
If cities had access to players 50 miles outside their cities like they did a long time ago, Toronto and Montreal, and for that matter, all Canadian teams, would be winning the Stanley Cup year after year. It seems like, outside of Canada, Detroit, Minnesota, New York and Boston produce lots of hockey players too. I'm kind of sick of all this expansion into non traditional markets. I think Quebec City should have a team. It would be great for Canada. Quebec City deserves it, they have an arena ready, and they would easily support hockey. If not, the corporations that can't get tickets in Montreal would buy all their tickets and luxury boxes.
The hockey belt can also include Northeastern Pennsylvania: The Coal Region!🏟🏟🏟🏟🏟🏟🏒🏒🏒🏒🏒🏒🚞🚞🚞🚞🚞🚞
Adding competitive expansion teams in Houston Atlanta Phoenix Portland will make a huge difference!
You still need to build programs from the ground up. Youth hockey programs for kids as young as 5, facilities to play and practice in, and making sure it’s not just the families with money who can afford to have their kids play.
Georgia should NEVER have hockey again.
1970 hockey registration was 0%
2020 hockey registration was 0.02%
In 50 years...Georgia had ZERO GROWTH...and all this talk about growing the game in the South.
It's doing perfectly fine in Canada....and in real hockey markets. Weird how that happens.
@@sampicano third times a charm.... they will get it right this time.... Count on it!
@@rocksmith3796 you saw 50 years with zero growth and thought "it will work this time count on it!"
wrong
Houston is larger, by like a million people... if you want to fail in the south go there....Houston is a FAR better hockey market than Atlanta
and Houston is a TERRIBLE hockey market (just WAY better than Atlanta) count on it...
@@sampicano stop living in the past....its going to happen.... And sooner than you think.....lets go Thrashers!
Expansion should start in Quebec City, restore their franchise in a traditional hockey market before expanding further into experimental cities in the American South.
I play hockey outside every winter with my friends and family.
YOU WANT HOCKEY IN NEW ORLEANS, ORLANDO, OKLAHAOMA THEN START SNOWING 🌨
THAT'S WHY NO HOCKEY FANS IN MEMPHIS, PHOENIX, ATLANTA, MIAMI
YEAH! ..AND TRY HOSTING A WINTER OLYMPICS WHILE THEY'RE AT IT!
We have more Ice sheets in NW Calgary than the entire state of Utah
Gotta consider how expensive it is to play hockey and rink availability, kids sports equipment isn't something everyone can afford, and the South is historically poor and conservative so not building too many rinks or giving kids free equipment
in 7-8 years USA will be the elite NHLers much better programs and more retired NHLERS are living in the USA after retirement.
Don't change anything
Why? You know with proper marketing the U.S. will dominate the sport.
@@mr.brenman2132 No, it won't. The interest isn't there. Even after more than 30 years of Bettman in charge, hockey remains a niche sport compared to football and basketball and it always will.
Makes sense. Something like 80-85% of Canadians live within 100 miles of the US border. Go above and beyond that, ain't much there.
US and Canada is kind of obvious...
Pretty much 😂😂😂.
@@DateMike22 Especially considering the NHL is made up of US and Canadian teams.
And in other news, water is wet.
The only parts of Canada that aren't part of the 'Hockey Belt' are the parts that are essentially uninhabited. Qu'elle surprise!
Instead of expanding the nhl needs to build tons of rinks
A city of 100000 people will produce more NHL propects tham all but 8 states. And even in some border states it is hit and miss.
It's almost as if it would be really cool to overlay both!!!! #mapnerd
When I was a kid (born 1962), American players only came from Minnesota or Massachusetts. That was it. Now the Toronto Maple Leafs' best player was born in Arizona (and he isn't the only Arizonan on their team, as they have Matthew Knies). They were products of the "grow the game" sentiment. Southern California is a hockey hotbed now. Florida is producing NHL players. It's coming. Time and youth hockey programs, ex-players that retire where they played last become youth coaches.
Auston Matthews was actually born in the Bay Area but moved to Arizona as an infant.
- *grew up in Arizona 👍
Everyone wants to add teams to NHL. there are currently 32 teams. If you add more teams most of them will NEVER win in your lifetime. How many of these non traditional markets being proposed will sustain 50 plus year droughts? Adding teams is a recipe for disaster for NHL.
Just move the ones that don’t draw the fans to new markets. Move the Ducks to San Diego. Bring a team back to Quebec and a team on the outskirts of Atlanta faraway from the Spaghetti Junction. And Hamilton. But stay at 32 teams.
Per capita, or per square kilometre, however you want to measure it, the province of Nova Scotia is the most talented hockey region in the world. Quality over quantity
I know the Netherlands has 1
Daniel Sprong
Looking at "List of American and Canadian cities by number of major professional sports franchises" wiki page..
Houston, Atlanta, Phoenix, San Diego, Orlando, Charlotte, Salt Lake, Portland, and San Antonio are the biggest markets without established teams. Atlanta and Phoenix are currently failed. San Diego is probably loaded with the Kings and Ducks. Orlando's not far from Tampa. Hurricanes play in Raleigh, not Charlotte. And, of course, Salt Lake can be scratched off the list.
No surprise Houston and Portland are constantly mentioned in expansion chatter.
Atlanta did not fail. Its ownership did. Why can't you people wrap your heads around this fact. Atlanta Spirit Group intentionally destroyed the franchise in Atlanta.
@@willp.8120 technicalities and nuance doesn't change the basic fact that Atlanta, as a city, failed to retain a hockey team. Other places have found new owners, new arenas, etc. to keep the team.
@@RoboJediNate You simply do not understand what happened with both the Flames and the Thrashers.
The Flames left because the owner sold to the group that offered him the most money after his real estate business was failing. It had nothing to do with the Flames.
The Thrashers left because they were bought by an incompetent ownership group who did not want them but who had to purchase them if they were going to get what they wanted, the Atlanta Hawks. That is because the Thrashers and Hawks were sold by Time Warner as a bundled package with Philips Arena rights. It was all or nothing. There were many lawsuits between the owners that bled them of cash and made them lose lots of money. They wanted the relocation fee out of it so didn't take seriously any local buyers.
None of this was on the fans or city.
@@willp.8120 I understand that it wasn't on the fans.
But to clarify, NHL approves sales and relocations. Relocation fees go to the league, not owner. Ultimately, no one in Atlanta wanted to buy the team.
@@RoboJediNate At the time, sellers did get part of the relocation fee. That has been rescinded, I think since the Thrashers left to discourage from other corrupt owners doing the same.
Here some bad news for you guys, less and less Canadian's are playing the game , the cost is just to much, and now with climate change the lakes and rivers dont freeze , immigration 1 million the last two years, they dont play the game. Unless the owners start putting back money soon your free players pipe line stream will dry up just in time for your more USA expansion . Good on you.
Absolutely true, unless there is some sort of program to provide kids with used equipment (they grow out of it so fast). If Gordie Howe was starting out today in the same family situation that he had when he was growing up, he never would have become *GORDIE HOWE*. His father was a construction labourer who liked his beer. There is no way someone in that situation could play youth hockey today.
Want to fire up homegrown talent? Want to incentivize NHL teams to develop grassroots?
Introduce the hometown steal. Once per draft per team, second round down, the NHL team where the player grew up/developed is able to be stolen by the home town team, in lieu of their pick. (Must have their own pick of that round available.)
New teams get an arbitrary window to do the same with imports...say 4-7 years from inception, (Ie.Kraken get one of Russia, Sweden, Finland assigned to claim for 4-7 yrs. just to get the conversation started.
It incentivises NHL teams to invest in grassroots development, and will give that team potential hometown heroes to help bring in the fans.
What did the NFL do?
-put teams in FOOTBALL MARKETS (largest league on earth)
What did the MLB do?
-put teams in BASEBALL MARKETS
What did the NBA do?
- put teams in BASKETBALL MARKETS
BUT THE NHL...failed with
- California Seals
- Kansas City Scouts
- Arizona Coyotes
- Atlanta Thrashers
- Atlanta Flames
The teams that LOSE THE MOST MONEY are Carolina, Florida, Anaheim (and Arizona and Atlanta before they relocated).
YOU NEED ICE TO PLAY HOCKEY 🏒
Cleveland Barons - 2 years just like the Scouts in KC
Colorado Rockies - 6 years and then off to New Jersey
If anyone suggests putting an NHL team in Oakland, remind them of this distinction:
NHL - Seals, NFL - Raiders (twice!), NBA - Warriors, MLB - A's
Can you think of any other city in North America which has lost franchises in all four major sports leagues?!
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International Mothers Day Sunday, 12th Mai 2024 2nd Sunday of every month of May
The united Federal Republic of Germany, has 205 clubs with Ice Hockey!
Ice Hockey World Championship for Men, in Czech Republic, Prague; Ostrau; from 10th May to 26th May 2024
group stage
1; Germany
6; USA
Mr. Kesselring´s family name sounds German (language)!
Daniel Fahrenheit´s does too!
The NHL is going to have a few players from Las Vegas in about 15 years.
Hahahahahahahaha
All those rinks.
He'll be as good as Lohrei. One guy. Medicore af.
you have to convince the mothers in the non-hockey market but hockey is more than just fighting and I think you won’t succeed
If it's not the USA and Canada I'll be 😳🇺🇲🇨🇦.
Boston is the biggest contributor to the NHL than any other state as players go. Back in the 80's and 90's probably 90 % of American players in the NHL came from the Boston area.
No, you aaaahhh!!!
There’s more from Minnesota and Michigan
@@humblelad Now yes, Back in the late 80's and 90's just about every American player was from the New England area.