J.F.K. was alive when these Allen Edmonds were made!
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- Опубликовано: 27 окт 2024
- In this video I highlight a 56 plus year old pair of Allen Edmonds "Brentwood" split toe bluchers that I thrifted. They have an odd "Nailess Cushioned Heel" moniker, and heel top lifts that appear to have wooden pegs and a metal cleat. From my research I was able to determine that they were produced in 1962 or earlier. I show how I determined this in the video. Although I do not show shining them, I do show the before and after.
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Wow! You are so lucky! Yes, metal heal taps were deadly. Can't tell you how many time as a young CPA in New Orleans I came out of the building to wet slate sidewalks to go sliding and often falling. Wore through many pairs of imperials back in those days. Thanks, as always for the video and your work.
Paul Clarin - you’re welcome! Thanks for watching & commenting.
Amazing. I was about four years old when these nice shoes were made. Great job.
Outstanding video Bob! You are doing a great job uncovering some extremely old, vintage Allen Edmond’s shoes. Your research skills and overall knowledge of shoes and their construction allows you to make some compelling arguments as to the age of this pair of shoes. In furtherance of your theory that this pair of shoes may still have the original sole and heels, I made note while watching your video that the leather upper around the “lip” of the shoe, (where the foot is inserted into the shoe), does not appear to show much aging, except where you point out the leather is torn. I hope this makes sense. It’s probably hard to follow. Anyway, in summary, I agree with you that the soles and heels are most likely original to this pair of shoes. I think I may have suggested this once before, so I apologize for my redundancy, however; I think that Allen Edmonds would be quite interested in your findings. Just a thought. Keep up the great work!!
An interesting lesson about this shoe and the history of the specific era, Mr. Powers. I am a big fan of black shoes specifically, mostly due to my line of work.
Great find! This is what I hope to find each time I walk into a thrift store. Nice job with the "digging" to attempt to date these shoes, thanks! Basically, they are as old as...ME!
Robert thanks for the history and timeline and indept bespoke shoe construction methods history, very refined shoe review, I learned so much, thanks.
ENRIQUE TORRES you’re welcome!
Unreal find, Robert. Please send me the PDF link. I always refer to your video to date my AE shoes.
Mark Gillum - My apologies, I forgot to include my email address, I’ve added it to the bottom of the video’s description. Please email me and I’ll reply back with a copy of the PDF document!
I love the split toe design. I wish they made more today.
Yes I just looked at their recent catalog they had sent and correct you are. From AE I’m looking for the Captoe Strand first. I kinda meant in general but good you pointed that out.
I’ve seen pics of the color I would want which it’s like a dark bourbon but it doesn’t show like that in their catalog. I’m wondering if they alter with a dark polish. You have any ideas?
At their cost it is something I would experiment with. Maybe if I got a used pair at a great price. Too bad I can’t post a pic here. I wish someone could explain how I can obtain the finish.
Speaks well of the enduring quality of AE shoes.
Great video Bob!
Nice find I like those a lot.
I just ordered a pair of shoes from Idrese. Italian calf skin Goodyear welted for 275 dollars and I'm interested to see how they compare to 400 dollar modern Allen Edmonds since they've been skimping on quality. But those vintage shoes are beautiful. Another great informative video Robert!
Great work Bob. I never cared for the split toe until now. You've got me scouring ebay as I write this. I'd love a copy of the pdf if it's available. Thanks for everything you do.
Aaron Brunton Aaron, you’re welcome! My apologies, I forgot to include my email address, I’ve added it to the bottom of the video’s description. Please email me and I’ll reply back with a copy of the PDF document.
I know this is an older video, but I'm pretty sure I know what "Nailess heel" means. Allen Edmonds used a 360° welt, somewhat unusual for the time. The welt around the heel meant that no nails were necessary to hold the heel block, upper, and insole together. Therefore there was no chance of nails pushing up into the sockliner and the wearer's foot. The heel toplifts would still be tacked to the heel block as you can see on these.
Aaah, that makes sense!
I like the metal cleat. It’s just cool.
Great find and really speaks to the quality of construction and leather (of this pair specifically). Could also be survivorship bias. It is also very conservative looking.
I find a lot of AE styles too conservative (even modern AE) and because of that like to stick with mostly European makers.
I bought the modern version of this shoe in cigar color after seeing this video.
I wonder if you can send it in to get it recrafted
Julio Ch. I wouldn’t see why not, but the torn lining would prevent me from wanting to spend a lot of money on them. If I really loved these shoes a lot I would probably send them to Steve at Bedos Leatherworks and have him repair/replace the lining too.
@@CobblerBob I was just thinking that you should send them to Steve to do a perfect original restore, with wooden nails. He would do a stupendous job. I was actually imagining myself as a wealthy man wiring the money over to you so that you can get them restored @ Bedo's - then I snapped back to reality and don't even have two Jacksons to rub together, really not kidding haha.
@@TheNunakun I certainly know the feeling.
@@TheNunakun @robertpowers I was thinking you could probably attempt to make the wooden begs just to see if how much work it would take to remake them
Very interesting, thorough. Was it called The Brentwood?? Like the Delray today? How far back were AE named after cities,and why?? I been always curious about that.
I guess it is similar to the Delray! I had no idea that Brentwood was a city! I hadn't considered where they get the names from!
Hi bob, thanks for the video, amazing shoes and great history, but how much did they cost?
$15
Very informative video Robert.
How much did you pay for them??
Got them for $15.
Hi Robert is there way to reduce the shoe bites and odour from shoes
Satish KumarA L - I’m not sure what you mean by “bites” but as far as odor...
1. Always wear socks
2. Use unvarnished cedar shoe trees in shoes every time you take them off
3. Don’t wear the same pair of shoes 2 days in a row
If you do those things and have an issue I’d as a podiatrist? This is an area I don’t really have a lot of experience in to be honest.
@@CobblerBob - Thanks for the suggestion, I have a new pair of shoes which are biting the ankles and ( I google it's been termed as Shoe bites)
I watch for Estate sales and pick up shoes for resale, I get mid 50's and 60's Florsheim constantly and rarely pay over 5.00 a pair for them, after cleaning and a decent polish I can get upwards to 100.00 for them on ebay.
WhOa! Maybe I need to consicder going to one!
Nice find but how much did you pay for them? Informative as always!
$15
Hi Bob. Very interesting historic back ground. BTW, check out Bedo Leatherworks RUclips channel ( if you haven’t already) to see a true American craftsman at work, I think you’ll be impressed and find it to your liking.
One of my favorite RUclips channel
Ifeanyi Emmanuel - yes! I’ve already subscribed to Bedos and watch his stuff religiously. I LOVE the recent long videos he’s been coming out with.
Is funny how much the Americans into Allen Edmonds, when the world just think it’s overprice fashion brand
But great research, respect
King F - LOL, I’m sure it is partly a loyalty thing, but I’ll tell you some reasons I personally steer away from other brands:
1. I’m an 11.5 3e. There are quite a few brands (like Mezlan and J. Fitzpatrick) that just don’t make or have only a very few wide widths.
2. Some of those brands are hard or impossible to try on in a store. I can drive 30 mins to the Woodmere Allen Edmonds store and get fitted. I’m sure there are more places to try other brands on, but I haven’t been motivated to find them. For example, I’ve tried on Mezlans at the Nordstrom’s store, but it’s only one line of many lines of shoes they carry, and the people are Nordstrom’s employees and know very little about the shoes, and the availability is very poor. AE employees know the brand like the back of their hand and can cross reference, suggest other shoes in the same last, etc.
3. I like the Goodyear Welted shoes in general better than Blake Stitched. I believe they provide better comfort and support when walking on pavement or standing for a long time.
4. I like their traditional styling.
5. For what you get, if you buy them on sale, the price is very reasonable. Even though the full retail price most models o want is $395 or $425 USD, they routinely go on sale at the low three hundreds, and sometimes the low to mid 200’s, and occasionally for $197 (first quality). Although I’ve never bought a factory second, that’s another option. Then since they’re a popular brand, there’s a large second hand market for them on e-Bay, etc. I got my 1st pair of AEs (Park Avenues) on eBay for $27* shipping. It hooked me and led me to the retail AE store.
Robert Powers thanks Mr powers, very informative. Coz I live in Asia, I pretty much have to buy most of the American shoes online without trying or even seeing them before purchase, although they have return policy, shipping cost is still high.
I am not sure I would like getting second hand shoes, as most of the cork sole has already formed into the previous owner foot shape. Do you know if the October sale is the biggest sale for AE, I feel like I can gamble on it if there aren’t too much to lose🙂
Yes, I understand the not wanting to buy 2nd hand... but there are often ones for sale that literally we’re worn once, or only a few times and returned bc the person got the wong size or didn’t want to break them in. See my video “Buying Allen Edmonds on EBay? What to look for with sole wear...”
ruclips.net/video/1Rcd6RSRtI4/видео.html
And you’ll see how scuffed the leather soles get after wearing the shoes one time. It takes at least a dozen wears to get noticeable imprinting. The sole of a leather shoe is like the odometer of a car.
As far as new 1st quality prices, most of the Gdyr Welted models are $395 or $425 full price. I’d say $197 USD is the lowest I’ve seen, $247 is not uncommon, and $297-335 is still a decent deal. The Strand never seems to go below $300 though.
You CAN return new AE shoes, but you have to follow their guidelines (see their website): try them on only on CARPET, and do NOT flex your foot to the point that the shoe folds and creases the vamp.
@@CobblerBob thank you for the advise Mr Powers, will definitely look out for those chances =)
I have 13 pairs of AEs that fit my feet like a glove. They age well and make for excellent recrafting due to the quality of the materials used on the shoes.
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