He had monster numbers when he played with the Expos, but these numbers decreased after he signed with the Angels after 6-7 years in the Expos organisation. Maybe it's a sign of the baseball gods... :P
Glen Gorbous. Major League Baseball Player. He is best known for his place in the Guiness Book of Records. On August 1, 1957, the 6-foot-2, 175-pound Canadian, established a world record by throwing a baseball 445 feet,10 inches as a pre-game promotion at Omaha Stadium. Gorbous, who earned $200 for the effort, was given four tries throwing from the right-field corner to the left-field corner to take advantage of a 3 mile-per-hour breeze. He was allowed to take a six-step running start.
Ichiro is great, accurate and strong arm; however Vlad in his prime could throw from the warning track all the way to home plate on a bounce, and is a much better hitter, power, rbi, and percentage - both will end up in the HOF, but Guerrero is a beast.
@ajlepisto i think it is safe to say from home plate the ball ended up about 390 ft away (c) and from the look of where he is on the field it seems he is about 33 ft past third base (123 ft away from home plate, b). doing the math a^2= 152,100-15,129 then a^2=136,971 the square root of 136,971 is 370.9. sorry for nerding out i just wanted to know for myself so i did the math :-)
@NYerintransit Yeah he does, or did. Only played a handful of games in the OF last season. Hes just not very mobile anymore, had a couple crucial fielding errors in the WS. Cant see him gettin much OF time with the O's either with Markakis Jones and Scott. I wish him the best this year though, really great guy and leader.
@ajlepisto if he threw it on a straight line this can be figured out using the pythagorean theorum. if a^2 + b^2 = c^2 if "a" is the distance he threw it, "b" is the distance from home plate from where he threw it, and "c" is the distance from home plate to where the ball ended up. we can then say that a^2 =c^2 -b^2. see next comment
my friend can do the same thing. hes a pitcher at my high school. he can throw about 93 mph. its 395 to our center field and he can throw from the first base bag all the way over the center field wall.
well ichiros throws take a few hops, but they are right there, vlad has the best arm, i mean, he'll throw a guy out with only 1 or 2 hops, now, the best throw i've ever seen, was by jose guillen when he played for the pirates, threw the ball from the wall like a couple hundred feet in the air, and ended up right at third base to get the guy out, didnt take one bounce, it was amazing, but overall, heres how i would rank them 1)Vladimir Guerrero 2)Jose Guillen 3)Ichiro Susuki
Ichiro's longest throw might have been one he made during a workout before a Japanese all-star game. At the spacious Fukuoka Dome, he threw a ball from the warning track in the deepest part of center field and hit the backstop on the fly. - By DAVID ANDRIESEN SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER ich threw 427ft.
@ajlepisto sorry i didn't see this before i replied again. i didn't use any value from the foul line to the outfield wall...i used the estimated distance from home plate the ball ended up (the hypothnuse, ~390 ft) and the estimated distance from home plate that he was when he threw the ball (one of the legs of the right triangle, ~123 ft) and plugged them into the pythagorean theorum formula to find the distance from where he threw it to where it ended up. 370 ft was the answer not a guess.
look its just math. 90 mph at 45 degree angle equals roughly 300 ft. vlad probably hit about 95 on this, giving the wind to factor in. and remember how balls fly at yankee stadium, fly to right center, die in left center. still impressive, because im sure no one who comments on this vid can do that...
I never said I was wrong. Once you started launching personal attacks, whatever else you tried to bring to the table became irrelevant. Once you grow up and mature you will realize that personal attacks only undermine yourself. You being able to hit 80 on a gun, means nothing but proves my point once again.
Pitchers are able to do it pretty easily, since they have the strongest arms. It isn't very healthy though to try for long distances. Long toss = yes, long distance competitions = no
that's a decent argument, but I would define BASEBALL as scoreing runs and throwing out runners vs. "buying more med balls" Or hitting one ball out of 30 or so pitches over the fence and being basically worthless the rest of the time and basically wiffing or looking like a deer in headlights the rest of the time.
@ajlepisto it has nothing to do with the wall. home plate, the point where vlad threw it and the point where the ball landed form a right triangle. we know that the ball ended up about 390 ft. from home plate not from where he threw it. so 390 is the hypotenuse of the right triangle. vlad threw it from about 123 ft. away from home plate. so 123 is one leg of the triangle. search google for a pythagorean theorum calculator and put it in yourself. or...just disagree...lol.
@NYerintransit Yeah he did, he was horrible in the postseason. his entire second half of the season was pretty weak. Still loved watchin him play though, Go Rangers.
His accuracy is a little higher than Vlads than the amount Vlad's strength exceeds Ichiro's. 2 variable make up the equation of arm superiority. Strength. Accuracy.
He hasn't posted numbers close to 10SB's and 30 Hr's in years! Five players more "complete" than Vladdy (currently, since Vlad doesn't steal either and can't play defense worth a darn): 1) Albert Pujols 2) ARod 3) Miguel Cabrera 4) Mark Teixeira (Gold Glove defense too) 5) Jimmy Rollins 6) David Wright 7) Carlos Beltran I would even say Torii Hunter is the better player at this point, certainly more productive and better defensively
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naw, i dont think that ichiro could throw that ball as far as vlad does, now as for guillen, when he made that throw i was talking about, it was when he was on the pirates, and that was about 7 years ago, back when he was actually good, now the upside to ichiro is his speed and arm, now vlads is his power and arm ad bad ball hitting ability, i mean, i saw a homerun he hit, and the ball was like only a foot off the ground, it was cool, lol
Really? You REALLY think that? C'mon. Just ask somebody who actually played at a high level or coached at a high level and they would disagree. How many outfielders do you think can hit even 80MPH on a gun? I can only name two: Nick Markakis of Baltimore and Ichiro. Jose Guillen used to be able to. I am not saying that ALL pitchers have stronger arms than ALL outfielders, or vice-versa, but the great majority of pitchers have MUCH stronger arms than outfielders. That's why they are pitchers.
Nice attitude and language. My stipulation was that distance does not equal velocity. Put an OF on the mound, somebody other than Ichiro, Markakis, Hamilton and few others, and they won't necessarily throw as hard as you think just because they can "gun" somebody out from the OF. They don't keep a radar gun on OF throws. That's a fact. As for your personal attack, grow up dude. Seriously.
@Ballbuster319 why would they do that? They're making a shit ton of money from it, and where else would you watch videos? Vimeo? come on.. Yeah it sucks but they aren't going to stop making money just because you don't like it.
i hate that today u have to queston great players, are they great or are they on the juice.. anyway..i wouldnt be suprised if ichiro was on the juice as well.. sounds crazy i know, he is only 170 pounds, but he was 124 pounds when he was drafted, and steroids/hgh arent "illegal" in japan, like they are in the united states.. he peobably isnt on them, but it wouldnt shock me.. roberto clemente was only 170 pounds, and we know he didnt juice, and he had a fricken cannon in right field..
If what you're saying is true, yeah maybe. Then on the other hand I wouldn't rule out guys that slap hits, because hitting is contagious etc.. And I surely would choose a guy that's a hawk in the outfield versus a dude that simply throws..wait what am I saying no. no. and no. I wouldn't choose guys based on batting avg or any of that horseshit. I choose a team based on good ball players. Look at the Phillies. Christ.
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Absolutely one of the most talented baseball players I’ve ever seen play.
I miss this guy in RF. He had one of the strongest outfield arms in all of this generation and its sad to see him not being able to gun it anymore.
He had monster numbers when he played with the Expos, but these numbers decreased after he signed with the Angels after 6-7 years in the Expos organisation. Maybe it's a sign of the baseball gods... :P
Glen Gorbous.
Major League Baseball Player. He is best known for his place in the Guiness Book of Records. On August 1, 1957, the 6-foot-2, 175-pound Canadian, established a world record by throwing a baseball 445 feet,10 inches as a pre-game promotion at Omaha Stadium. Gorbous, who earned $200 for the effort, was given four tries throwing from the right-field corner to the left-field corner to take advantage of a 3 mile-per-hour breeze. He was allowed to take a six-step running start.
I have yet to be born and I can throw a medicine ball 41,000 mph.
roberto clemente and vlad have the greatest right fielders arm ever!!!
Ichiro is great, accurate and strong arm; however Vlad in his prime could throw from the warning track all the way to home plate on a bounce, and is a much better hitter, power, rbi, and percentage - both will end up in the HOF, but Guerrero is a beast.
Career BA as well. Guerrero is .318, Ichiro is .311
@ajlepisto i think it is safe to say from home plate the ball ended up about 390 ft away (c) and from the look of where he is on the field it seems he is about 33 ft past third base (123 ft away from home plate, b).
doing the math a^2= 152,100-15,129 then a^2=136,971 the square root of 136,971 is 370.9. sorry for nerding out i just wanted to know for myself so i did the math :-)
i was about 5 rows back from where he threw that, just out of the camera angle in the beginning
The greatest right fielder of all time
Roberto Clemente
@NYerintransit Yeah he does, or did. Only played a handful of games in the OF last season. Hes just not very mobile anymore, had a couple crucial fielding errors in the WS. Cant see him gettin much OF time with the O's either with Markakis Jones and Scott. I wish him the best this year though, really great guy and leader.
guerrero is sick... he hit a 2 run homer today to tie the game
@ajlepisto if he threw it on a straight line this can be figured out using the pythagorean theorum. if a^2 + b^2 = c^2 if "a" is the distance he threw it, "b" is the distance from home plate from where he threw it, and "c" is the distance from home plate to where the ball ended up. we can then say that a^2 =c^2 -b^2. see next comment
this guy used to be a beast. but i dont know if he will ever be anything close to the same :(
@AngelsfanDS Vlad's always going to be an Expo, nothing else.
what a cannon
my friend can do the same thing. hes a pitcher at my high school. he can throw about 93 mph. its 395 to our center field and he can throw from the first base bag all the way over the center field wall.
I remember seeing this on the news it's crazy they have the exact clip.
I like Vlad because he is a free swinger!!! He swings at any pitch no matter the location!!! Even if it costs his team a loss!!!!
well, when it says "385 feet" it means from the plate. And he is way behind the plate. He's almost in the dugout. It's more like a 400+ feet throw
i saw that live!
well ichiros throws take a few hops, but they are right there, vlad has the best arm, i mean, he'll throw a guy out with only 1 or 2 hops, now, the best throw i've ever seen, was by jose guillen when he played for the pirates, threw the ball from the wall like a couple hundred feet in the air, and ended up right at third base to get the guy out, didnt take one bounce, it was amazing, but overall, heres how i would rank them 1)Vladimir Guerrero 2)Jose Guillen 3)Ichiro Susuki
Ichiro's longest throw might have been one he made during a workout before a Japanese all-star game. At the spacious Fukuoka Dome, he threw a ball from the warning track in the deepest part of center field and hit the backstop on the fly. - By DAVID ANDRIESEN
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER
ich threw 427ft.
@ajlepisto sorry i didn't see this before i replied again. i didn't use any value from the foul line to the outfield wall...i used the estimated distance from home plate the ball ended up (the hypothnuse, ~390 ft) and the estimated distance from home plate that he was when he threw the ball (one of the legs of the right triangle, ~123 ft) and plugged them into the pythagorean theorum formula to find the distance from where he threw it to where it ended up. 370 ft was the answer not a guess.
look its just math. 90 mph at 45 degree angle equals roughly 300 ft. vlad probably hit about 95 on this, giving the wind to factor in. and remember how balls fly at yankee stadium, fly to right center, die in left center. still impressive, because im sure no one who comments on this vid can do that...
Arm from heaven, you can just earn it
Trevor Bauer can do this like nothing
Crazy your comment is 7 years old and he just did it today.
man, i wish the Yanks had signed this dude, hes a beast
@andros1984 p.s this is chuck norris
Phils 09 congratz. But the angels are gonna break you heart.
why are people arguing about a different subject? ITS VLAD THROWING A BASEBALL NO NEED TO FIGHT EACH OTHER
I never said I was wrong. Once you started launching personal attacks, whatever else you tried to bring to the table became irrelevant. Once you grow up and mature you will realize that personal attacks only undermine yourself.
You being able to hit 80 on a gun, means nothing but proves my point once again.
i was at this game haha sweet
Pitchers are able to do it pretty easily, since they have the strongest arms. It isn't very healthy though to try for long distances. Long toss = yes, long distance competitions = no
Right Center
The he is our DH
man, if the angels need another pitcher, vlads our man, same thing goes for Ichiro and the Mariners, lol
that was more then 370 closer to 400, the wall said 385
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usually some of the best arms at the hot corner, not in the outfield
look at guys like joe crede and david wright, heck even brandon inge has a cannon
that's a decent argument, but I would define BASEBALL as scoreing runs and throwing out runners vs. "buying more med balls" Or hitting one ball out of 30 or so pitches over the fence and being basically worthless the rest of the time and basically wiffing or looking like a deer in headlights the rest of the time.
@ajlepisto it has nothing to do with the wall. home plate, the point where vlad threw it and the point where the ball landed form a right triangle. we know that the ball ended up about 390 ft. from home plate not from where he threw it. so 390 is the hypotenuse of the right triangle. vlad threw it from about 123 ft. away from home plate. so 123 is one leg of the triangle. search google for a pythagorean theorum calculator and put it in yourself.
or...just disagree...lol.
You've got to be fucking kidding me.
@johnshot11 Oh ya ur def right.........
Throwing it far is one thing, Ichiro throws it FASTER and incredibly more accurate
hits a blind orphan looking the wrong way in the stands. oop!
@ajlepisto you are absolutely right... Vlad threw it slightly less then 385 feet... thats not impressive at all....
@SallyJackarooski no denying that
Vlad in his prime has a much faster arm than Ichiro. But Ichiros accuracy is unmatched.
@NYerintransit Yeah he did, he was horrible in the postseason. his entire second half of the season was pretty weak. Still loved watchin him play though, Go Rangers.
U mad cos Vlad owned the Phils back when he was with the Expos lol... I think he's like 3rd or 2nd all-time, for HR's hit against the Phils
dave winfield says hi...
I'm an orioles fan but i laugh that is our DH
His accuracy is a little higher than Vlads than the amount Vlad's strength exceeds Ichiro's.
2 variable make up the equation of arm superiority.
Strength.
Accuracy.
WRONG. Josh Hamilton vould throw 95 in high school. He could have been drafted as a pitcher according to the Rays.
@thebandittransam It's not really fair to call him a "free swinger" because he can hit a pitch wherever/anywhere lol.
world record by throwing a baseball 445 ft.
ichiros arm stronger than vlads
IChiRo threw on 427 ft 1994. ich is that good
yup he's with Texas now :(
was at the game in which he did this. I wonder if Vlad gets in the Hall
mike shoe... he should. numbers wise he is on a short list of a career BA of .318+ and 400+ HRS
no need to wonder anymore
What do you mean? Are you saying Ichiro doesn't have a better arm?
Ichiro has a better arm than Vlad by a little, but has A LOT better arm than Guillen.
@Scorberg Boy, you must have hated last season!!!!
He hasn't posted numbers close to 10SB's and 30 Hr's in years!
Five players more "complete" than Vladdy (currently, since Vlad doesn't steal either and can't play defense worth a darn):
1) Albert Pujols
2) ARod
3) Miguel Cabrera
4) Mark Teixeira (Gold Glove defense too)
5) Jimmy Rollins
6) David Wright
7) Carlos Beltran
I would even say Torii Hunter is the better player at this point, certainly more productive and better defensively
@pitchingtowin
no you havent, not on the fly.
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hey vlad can fling da ball but it is way different pitching no offense douggoud if u play baseball its way different from regular throwing
he plays DH because his legs are done, if wouldn't be able to run anything down.
naw, i dont think that ichiro could throw that ball as far as vlad does, now as for guillen, when he made that throw i was talking about, it was when he was on the pirates, and that was about 7 years ago, back when he was actually good, now the upside to ichiro is his speed and arm, now vlads is his power and arm ad bad ball hitting ability, i mean, i saw a homerun he hit, and the ball was like only a foot off the ground, it was cool, lol
@GarshardJeVard how does a blind orphan look the wrong way?
@danieljo2013 Is this a serious question? The dude can barely walk. There's A LOT more to fielding than just being able to throw really far.
In college we did this for our off season program, about half the pitchers were able to do it. Its a great feat, but pretty common.
@chessarama thank you im gonna do that
What the hell is eveyone arguing about? Everyone is pissed at each other haha
Lol to the 30 or so comments before this one...... go outside and play already!
he should've stayed with the Expos, look at his numbers with MTL!!!
how do i get my arm stronger so i can throw farther?
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400 Foot Throw?
what about ichiro?
@molonlave2010 After the second WS and loosing again I began to feel bad for texas rangers fans....
can you cite your source that says that ichiro threw 427 and the world record is 445?
@hrmoore41 who knows.
Really? You REALLY think that? C'mon. Just ask somebody who actually played at a high level or coached at a high level and they would disagree. How many outfielders do you think can hit even 80MPH on a gun? I can only name two: Nick Markakis of Baltimore and Ichiro. Jose Guillen used to be able to.
I am not saying that ALL pitchers have stronger arms than ALL outfielders, or vice-versa, but the great majority of pitchers have MUCH stronger arms than outfielders. That's why they are pitchers.
ichiro has a more accurate arm
Sure you did, on the hop(s). You sure as hell did not on the fly.
Nice attitude and language. My stipulation was that distance does not equal velocity. Put an OF on the mound, somebody other than Ichiro, Markakis, Hamilton and few others, and they won't necessarily throw as hard as you think just because they can "gun" somebody out from the OF. They don't keep a radar gun on OF throws. That's a fact.
As for your personal attack, grow up dude. Seriously.
@Ballbuster319 why would they do that? They're making a shit ton of money from it, and where else would you watch videos? Vimeo? come on.. Yeah it sucks but they aren't going to stop making money just because you don't like it.
now's hes no longer an angel :(
lol bet if he pitched, he would throw 100
Hilarious since I NEVER said that!
Define "better".
i hate that today u have to queston great players, are they great or are they on the juice..
anyway..i wouldnt be suprised if ichiro was on the juice as well..
sounds crazy i know, he is only 170 pounds, but he was 124 pounds when he was drafted, and steroids/hgh arent "illegal" in japan, like they are in the united states..
he peobably isnt on them, but it wouldnt shock me..
roberto clemente was only 170 pounds, and we know he didnt juice, and he had a fricken cannon in right field..
ichiro has a better arm
If what you're saying is true, yeah maybe. Then on the other hand I wouldn't rule out guys that slap hits, because hitting is contagious etc.. And I surely would choose a guy that's a hawk in the outfield versus a dude that simply throws..wait what am I saying no. no. and no. I wouldn't choose guys based on batting avg or any of that horseshit. I choose a team based on good ball players. Look at the Phillies. Christ.
haha its ok, thanks
*Can't
@Scorberg To late.
Really? Has nothing to do with angle then huh? You must have flunked geometry.
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