I thinks this format needs some kind of "the joker", that wins by dying first. So the bandits can fake being the joker and do damage to the king at the start..
@@IamAllano The way my group plays is that there is a Jester and only one bandit. The bandit wants to kill everyone but the king. We also have a rule that if the king kills the guard first, then the king loses. This stops the king from randomly killing anyone and needing to make better decisions.
Loving seeing the boys progress in game knowledge, Chase didn't have to be corrected about the double usage of shadow in the warp @57:40 he noted it himself before it mattered and fixed it. Nothing wrong with making mistakes in MTG but the ability to detect and rectify them yourself shows real improvement. Great vid!
Alter of the Brood triggers off of all permanents including lands. Also Chase's enchantment pinged everyone for 2 damage on only the 1st non creature spell cast each turn.
Not sure if you guys will read this (or care), but hear me out. The usurper should have the objective to be the last man standing. The king and his knight win by killing the bandits and the usurper. The userper benefits by pretending to be the knight until he is one on one with the king, and then defeating them to win. It is a role that requires the longest gameplay to win, but it also is sought after because they conduct the craziest shenanigans. If you want to include the monarch mechanic, you can have the king become monarch on their second upkeep (asuming the king goes first). Also, if you kill a bandit or usurper, you are rewarded by drawing 3 cards (or some similar boon). If the king kills the knight, they discard their hand as punishment (or something smilar). These rules adjustments shift players incentive with their decisions because they add clearly defined consequences. Idk if you guys will play this variant again. I hope you do. This is a way of play that I think is very interesting, and useful for play groups that tend to have extra people that would rather play than be a spectator for an hour or more. Love this video and the goofy gameplay that you guys provide!
@@TheGroog so each player is a branch of a 5 branches star, and you have to kill the opposite branches, players next to you are kind of your allies, but they have to kill each others because they are opposite of each others, it opens some pretty fun politics and stuff
This is a really cool idea for a gamemode, but it seems impossible for the bandits or usurper to win because everyone wants to be percieved as the Knight... gotta come up with something that allows them to attack the King and Knight without immediately revealing themselves as villains.
Havent seen the episode yet but Chase if you like the tyranid deck you should absolutely switch commander to Magus Lucea Kane. It is a bonkers x spells enabler which a lot the tyranids are. Edit: if you run untapping cards it goes real hard and a lot of fun
I wish I had friends like this to play with. Love your guys channel and best MTG Commander games by far, non of the scripted BS from other channels. Also more shock collar commander, ramp it up.
Probably new to mtg, so inexperience. At 12:05 for example he plays a forest and then casts his commander Bill instead of casting it first and then play his land for the landfall trigger.
Yes I think it could use a game rule* each player must attack each turn, for each land played each turn it pays tax of 1 colorless mana to the king, or the kings deck is a wall deck and has no way to attack since it’s the only role known and has to barter with the other players
31:49 this feels like the youngins talking about how much fun playing war is, while grandpa (me) sits there with flashbacks from his time in the trenches (war of the spark standard)
Shadow in the warp only triggers for the first of each type per turn, so the card was doing way more damage than it should and reduced multiple spells in a turn, which it's not supposed to do. I guess it's just kingly privilege, lol
Emperor with 6 is a good alternate game mode too. Its 3 v 3 each side has an emperor in the middle and a lieutenant on each side. The Lt can only attack the player adjacent to them so they have to take the Lt across from them out before you can start attacking the emperor. Plus the emperor can pass the Lt's blockers and attackers on his turn or save them for himself.
Love this for 5 man Commander! I totally agree there needs to be 1 more role so theres a hint of unknown and I think a Jester roll would fit very well trying to get themselves killed first!
Could add a “Advisor” or “Kings hand” role which would be known information alongside the king where if a player falls under a certain health threshold the advisor knows that players role but can’t tell anybody and can only act on the information, to make it more of a 3v3
The bandits actually could of won at the end. Ryan's Jeska's will should of resolved 3 times from being copied twice which means 24 mana for comet storm so 21 damaged kicked would be 42 to Chase exactly
This sounds like a card name called BANG! One of my favourite card games during my childhood. Still play it with my relatives when we meet. Idk if there is any other soul alive that has played this game but damn do I have some great memories with that one Also finally seeing one of you play a wh40k deck really makes me happy
I apparently wasn't paying attention because the whole game I thought Charlie was a bandit, Matt was the knight, and Ryan the usurper. The whole time I was like, "Man Charlie is trying way too hard to convince him he's the knight and Matt's not trying hard enough"
Another variant game other than this or Star Magic, is Secret Partners. Deal out a Mountain, Red Spell, Island, Blue Spell and an Artifact. Those with lands flip them face up, they now know who is not on their team and can swing at each other. The Red and Blue spell players know who their secret partners are and can help them as they see fit. The Artifact is the Lone Wolf and has to win just like in Kingdoms. You can choose to flip up cards as players are knocked out or not. Teams win if even 1 person survives until the end, if both teammates are knocked out that team loses. Doing it this way incentivizes attacking and still some politics (lands know they are against each other, face down cards also know they are against each other; only attacking across those lines could reveal information). Of course the game is ruined if one face down player verbally reveals what card they have, so try not to be that person.
Never heard of this Commander format but seems interesting. You could also try the Planechase thingy at some point. Also, wasn't Charlie's board empty when he played F-Bag so he should've sacrificed the F-Bag also.
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I thinks this format needs some kind of "the joker", that wins by dying first. So the bandits can fake being the joker and do damage to the king at the start..
Nah, someone just needs to openly say "i am the bandit" and go for a king early instead of wasting 95% of the game killing each other with 0 info.
@@IamAllano Yea, can't they just team up with the Usurper and make it a 3v2? Why would they even need to hide?
Jester role!
@@IamAllano The way my group plays is that there is a Jester and only one bandit. The bandit wants to kill everyone but the king. We also have a rule that if the king kills the guard first, then the king loses. This stops the king from randomly killing anyone and needing to make better decisions.
Could be the Swamp as well, very fitting. Could bring it up to a 6 player format?
“Oh boy, new Skill Check! What new commanders are we seeing today?”
*Bristly Bill appears*
“Oh. Well.”
Best commander channel hands down! The variety in games is amazing!
Yeah, i just love the variety of bristley bill and 3/4 other commanders
41:49 Arron has the biggest Freudian slip admitting his role and NO ONE NOTICED
He said that he thought Ryan was the knight like 20 min into the video. It was pretty established he was a bandit early on😂
Charlie and Matt get so heated at eachother lmao 😂
Ryan is just the goat, I live vicariously through him
Such a wholesome guy
🥵🥵🥵
Trueee
They were so concerned with being found out as not being the knight that they never even tried to win.
3 things will forever be true, death, taxes, and Aaron always playing bristley bill
The dynamic between the swarm lord being the king an being protected by the BUG GOD is a great coincidence.
Loving seeing the boys progress in game knowledge, Chase didn't have to be corrected about the double usage of shadow in the warp @57:40 he noted it himself before it mattered and fixed it. Nothing wrong with making mistakes in MTG but the ability to detect and rectify them yourself shows real improvement. Great vid!
Thank you guys for providing some of the most fun Magic content to grace the internet, I'm always looking forward to the next upload!
That scarab print is beautiful omg
Fr its hard to get too because its one of the masterpieces from Hour of Devastation
@@Equisitte Thank god for proxies
@Equisitte yea, those are called invocations or incantation I think?
My GOAT Matt's got this one for sure
Fr Matt’s the goat
Charlie is right. Matt's logic about him being the night then saying any three of us over here could be the night makes no sense.
Knight*
i'm pretty sure its on purpose
Matt was asserting that from Chase's perspective, any of the three could be
Alter of the Brood triggers off of all permanents including lands. Also Chase's enchantment pinged everyone for 2 damage on only the 1st non creature spell cast each turn.
Not sure if you guys will read this (or care), but hear me out.
The usurper should have the objective to be the last man standing. The king and his knight win by killing the bandits and the usurper. The userper benefits by pretending to be the knight until he is one on one with the king, and then defeating them to win. It is a role that requires the longest gameplay to win, but it also is sought after because they conduct the craziest shenanigans.
If you want to include the monarch mechanic, you can have the king become monarch on their second upkeep (asuming the king goes first).
Also, if you kill a bandit or usurper, you are rewarded by drawing 3 cards (or some similar boon). If the king kills the knight, they discard their hand as punishment (or something smilar). These rules adjustments shift players incentive with their decisions because they add clearly defined consequences.
Idk if you guys will play this variant again. I hope you do. This is a way of play that I think is very interesting, and useful for play groups that tend to have extra people that would rather play than be a spectator for an hour or more.
Love this video and the goofy gameplay that you guys provide!
5 player commander games usually take a long time, im glad there's a format that kind of accounts for that and makes it a bit more interesting to play
also an assassin role or something that wants to be the last player alive
One way I play is you can only attack the 2 people across the board from you until it’s 4 people, then play 4 player but it’s so much faster
My favorite to play is "star" when we are 5 (without color restrictions)
@@urgrim1657 ooo whats that?
@@TheGroog so each player is a branch of a 5 branches star, and you have to kill the opposite branches, players next to you are kind of your allies, but they have to kill each others because they are opposite of each others, it opens some pretty fun politics and stuff
Bandit hits the King for 13 damage... King later asks him "were you the Knight?" (Facepalm)
Yeah what kind of knights is he hanging around with?
Yeah, after Ryan jokingly told him he was the knight
Charlie kicked butt with that scarab god deck
STOP PLAYING YOUR LAND BEFORE BILL OMG
I love the "i have one mana open, am not gonna play anything more but also don't pay the one" move. It's very royal
also pretty funny of Matt to say "i think his deck is better than ours" after letting charlie draw like 25 cards
This is a really cool idea for a gamemode, but it seems impossible for the bandits or usurper to win because everyone wants to be percieved as the Knight... gotta come up with something that allows them to attack the King and Knight without immediately revealing themselves as villains.
In Mafia the bandits know who the other bandits are. Seems like a clear fix
Havent seen the episode yet but Chase if you like the tyranid deck you should absolutely switch commander to Magus Lucea Kane.
It is a bonkers x spells enabler which a lot the tyranids are.
Edit: if you run untapping cards it goes real hard and a lot of fun
The commander swap goes so crazy with this deck
Came to say this
Rhystic Study owners should use a bell everytime it triggers instead of repeating "Are you paying the 1"? lol
I wish I had friends like this to play with. Love your guys channel and best MTG Commander games by far, non of the scripted BS from other channels. Also more shock collar commander, ramp it up.
I loved the start to this, the banter was top notch!!
00:05:13 - why he did not tap the island to play the solring, to tap the solring to then play the creature is beyond my reason.
Probably new to mtg, so inexperience. At 12:05 for example he plays a forest and then casts his commander Bill instead of casting it first and then play his land for the landfall trigger.
Yes I think it could use a game rule* each player must attack each turn, for each land played each turn it pays tax of 1 colorless mana to the king, or the kings deck is a wall deck and has no way to attack since it’s the only role known and has to barter with the other players
Charlie knew who they were the whole time!!!
holy crap i forgot abt kingdoms!!! played it years ago at my lgs, tons of fun
Aaron spoiling what he is by saying "the other" and he knew it and turned bright red haha 41:30
This idea is brilliant love watching yall play thanks for the content and laughs
Matt being the usurper and playing Krenko is great
31:49 this feels like the youngins talking about how much fun playing war is, while grandpa (me) sits there with flashbacks from his time in the trenches (war of the spark standard)
I'm just here as a Matt enjoyer
Matt said "magic is my safe space" and I felt that.
Matt really hit the "Nonononono,waiwaitwaitWAIT!" at the end there lol
hope skill check plays more kingdoms commander! and maybe even with 6 players next time!
Reallly love the variations of commander you run, very nicely player guys :D
Shadow in the warp only triggers for the first of each type per turn, so the card was doing way more damage than it should and reduced multiple spells in a turn, which it's not supposed to do. I guess it's just kingly privilege, lol
I also think it would help if the bandits knew who the other bandits were
THIS IS WHAT COMMANDER NEEDS
Really enjoyed this format. Hoping to see more of these 5 mans
This was so fun. Y’all played the game beautifully. This might top sharpie cube as my favorite
Our playgroup also plays with Swamp as Assassain, who has to kill the king like the bandit, but everyone else has to be dead first
I want more of this format
Emperor with 6 is a good alternate game mode too. Its 3 v 3 each side has an emperor in the middle and a lieutenant on each side. The Lt can only attack the player adjacent to them so they have to take the Lt across from them out before you can start attacking the emperor. Plus the emperor can pass the Lt's blockers and attackers on his turn or save them for himself.
Charlie's deck is why the RC banned cards lol
Pizza is ready and the boys upload, life is good!
for the Abundance trigger, He doesn’t need to always choose nonland or land because it cited “may” so he can choose not to do it
the king not having permanent Monarch is a missed opportunity
came for the game, stayed because i saw aaron wearing that microwave long sleeve and subsequently lost my mind. a man with taste
This was awesome! Will be fun to see another!
Love this for 5 man Commander! I totally agree there needs to be 1 more role so theres a hint of unknown and I think a Jester roll would fit very well trying to get themselves killed first!
Did you call? Oh, different Kingdoms. >< Great episode, maybe we will have to try this variant sometime too.
Combining Town of Salem and Magic is actually such an insanely good idea WE NEED THAT FORMAT 😭😭
Could add a “Advisor” or “Kings hand” role which would be known information alongside the king where if a player falls under a certain health threshold the advisor knows that players role but can’t tell anybody and can only act on the information, to make it more of a 3v3
The bandits actually could of won at the end. Ryan's Jeska's will should of resolved 3 times from being copied twice which means 24 mana for comet storm so 21 damaged kicked would be 42 to Chase exactly
you can't pick the same target for a kicked comet storm, it says "another target"
This was a great group in this video, a lot easier to watch
Would love to see more of this format lol
This format is actually cool
Is charlie playing with godslap sleeves????
i need more of this, please for the love of god do more of this
I think the bandits need to know who they are working with and this would be better to play.
28:06 the aslan line 🤌
Charlie could have proven he was the knight so quickly by not drawing if Chase didnt pay. Lmaoo
This variant rocks, would love to see more
This sounds like a card name called BANG! One of my favourite card games during my childhood. Still play it with my relatives when we meet.
Idk if there is any other soul alive that has played this game but damn do I have some great memories with that one
Also finally seeing one of you play a wh40k deck really makes me happy
If you guys are doing more variants of commander, I beseech you to do treasure cruise simply for the chaos it can cause by going digging for treasure
I apparently wasn't paying attention because the whole game I thought Charlie was a bandit, Matt was the knight, and Ryan the usurper. The whole time I was like, "Man Charlie is trying way too hard to convince him he's the knight and Matt's not trying hard enough"
kingdoms is such a fun commander variant format!
Its so funny how fast they call everyones roles in the beginning
Yeeeeeeeeeah,
Tyranid representation!
WHAT THE HECK IS A TWO ARMED EMPEROR LETS GOOO!
Love this format. MORE MORE!!
This game mode is awesoime and I would love to see more.
more of this please very entertaining love it
I can already feel the matt dub, He shall usurp the pretender king!
The greatest game of gaslighting the king ever 🤣
Man, Arron's ordering early game gave me dementia.
Can we get more of this? Probably my fav video you guys have done
I hope Chase getting into Nids and stuff means we can see a 40k battle report in the future
scarab god is the second commander i ever ran and krenko was my third god thats nostalgic. i havent played magic in so long
they looked at commander and said "what if it was amongus"
Love this format love it, susssy commander!
Please do more of this its fantastic.
i pulled that very same masterpiece scarab god when i opened a HoD box it was beautiful
God I fucking love Kingdom, instant like boys!
I'D LOVE TO SEE MORE KINGDOM !!!
What app our they using for health tracking
Or another format of kingdoms, *Madking* where the knight has to protect the king but has to take him out in the end lol
The only 5+pod is the gimmicks types I like, nver regular 😂❤🎉
Where are the decklists for each deck?
Another variant game other than this or Star Magic, is Secret Partners.
Deal out a Mountain, Red Spell, Island, Blue Spell and an Artifact.
Those with lands flip them face up, they now know who is not on their team and can swing at each other. The Red and Blue spell players know who their secret partners are and can help them as they see fit. The Artifact is the Lone Wolf and has to win just like in Kingdoms.
You can choose to flip up cards as players are knocked out or not. Teams win if even 1 person survives until the end, if both teammates are knocked out that team loses.
Doing it this way incentivizes attacking and still some politics (lands know they are against each other, face down cards also know they are against each other; only attacking across those lines could reveal information). Of course the game is ruined if one face down player verbally reveals what card they have, so try not to be that person.
Aaron is wearing a very good shirt. Much Love.
Never heard of this Commander format but seems interesting.
You could also try the Planechase thingy at some point.
Also, wasn't Charlie's board empty when he played F-Bag so he should've sacrificed the F-Bag also.
I can feel it, Matt will finally win a game
Kinda wanna build charlies deck is there any chance will get deck lists for all these?
If there somewhere a deck list of the commander Decks?
Need that aegar decklist now!
Can you post the deck list of the Scarb God on Archideck?