“I never make it personal with athletes” - Stephan A smith “LONZO I HAVE YOUR MEDICAL INFO AND KNOW YOUR DOCTOR IM NOT LYING” This after lonzo confronted his lie about not being able to sit down.
Couldn't disagree more strongly, Melo had his best years in Denver. The Knicks did squat in his years there. And it's not a question of obligation. Melo completely turned the Nuggets franchise around from a perennial garbage team into regular winning and playoffs every year. He handled the trade situation with class and by going via trade instead of free agency the Nuggets got a huge haul from the Knicks including a draft pick that became Jamal Murray. The Nuggets owners have been petty. They should have kept the #15 so they could retire Melo's number and given Jokic another number so his jersey could eventually join Melo's in the rafters here.
@tompratt7125 going to the playoffs and his best years didn't mean anything to Melo. That's why he wanted out of Denver. Staying in Denver didn't matter to melo why would retiring his # in Denver matter?
Ray Allen had a solid Bucks career mare it to the ECF lost a Game 7 to Sixers but you don't hear him saying Bucks should retire his 34 now that Giannis wear that number
@@MussoliniEsco you cut the bullshit bruh, I think y’all sleep on melo I’m not saying he better than jokic but can you imagine going against prime lebron, prime Kobe, shaq with d wade, Boston big 3, the spurs big 3, and Dwight in Orlando, Steve Nash and the suns and people on yo case about not winning mvp😂 alot of people felt like jokic shouldn’t have even won his first mvp over lebron and Giannis cut ts out
@@dnn32 At least KD played like 10 years for the organization though, and played defense, won an MVP, plus he's part of the beginning of OKC's history too along with Westbrook etc. Melo on the other hand just wanted to score 30 points whether it was good or bad for the team, didn't play defense, etc and unlike OKC and Durant, the Nuggets were already a team with history so, outside of us who were around to watch and enjoy the 2000's Nuggets, that team won't really be remembered
When he got the first mvp that was it between who's the better player and more deserving. Joker deserves this. If you want to retire both, that's fine, but you have to do jokic first. He's that much better and more impactful
@thiagomennabarretoguedes2835 they have to do something for Melo to acknowledge what he did for the franchise. Because for a long time he was all alone and only had a broke down Iverson for 2 years and a veteran Billups for 1 very good year. He didn't have a jamal Murray, or mpj. The league was way different then too.
@@BlackMarvel25 yeah, I am not saying that Carmelo was bad or that he didn't help Denver. I agree with you. But there is no way that you treat both the same by retiring both jerseys. And I am not even considering the way Anthony left the team.
Real hoppers know mvp don't matter that's why jokic didn't win last year because dudes in suits just pick a guy but yeah 15 is jokic number he won a championship in that number
Exactly. Fat Lever and Mutumbo have their jerseys retired for the Nuggets. Melo had a much better Nuggets career than both - during an era where the West was a nightmare. Retire both 15s. Give melo a sky blue banner to match the jersey from that era.
Carmelo’s attitude during Linsanity and his relationship with Lin after transfers spoke volume about his character, also remarks from his coach Karl and teammate Chauncey Billups both extremely intelligent people
Dont even put Melo in the same sentence as Jokic. Jokic is on the path to greatness while Melo never matured until the last minute. Skills and stats aside Jokic hands down has the better attitude and locker room presence. Its incomparable, Jokic is hands down better.
I really do not think that Denver gave Jokić the #15 jersey in hopes that it would wipe out or diminish Carmelo Anthony’s legacy in Denver. Jokić was the 41st overall pick in his 2014 draft, expectations for draftees that far down are usually faint. Having said that, when Carmelo Anthony departed from Denver in 2011, I do feel like Nuggets administrators should have made the #15 permanently inaccessible to any other player. The number should have been informally retired after Carmelo’s departure and then formally retired after Carmelo’s retirement from the NBA. I think the fact that Denver’s ownership allowed for ANY other player not named Carmelo Anthony to wear the #15 for the Nuggets post February 22nd, 2011 was deliberately done to irritate Carmelo. Denver executives clearly did not like the way Carmelo forced his way out of Colorado so that he could get to his preferred location of New York City, giving the #15 to ANY other player who wanted it was their way of being spiteful, it just so happened that Nikola Jokić was the guy who asked for it but I think that Denver decision makers would have given it to anyone who wanted the number. I think that Nikola Jokić accepted the number simply because it was available, not spite on his part towards Carmelo Anthony, had #15 not been available, I think that Jokić would have gladly settled for another one.
What’s the problem with just retiring both number 15, Melo deserves his jersey to be up there n the rafters just like the joker. Melo did his thing in Denver when they drafted him in 03 . The nuggets weren’t nothing before Melo got there wasn’t even irrelevant. Mind you yes the joker is doing his thing kinda surpassed him with the Denver nuggets. I believe Melo done more for the nuggets than the knicks just my opinion. I hate the fact that our people try to diminish Melo legacy like he wasn’t a player to be reckoned with in his era yes he didn’t provide a championship but he still was a killer on the court. Joker is a beast in this era right now it’s no comparison they both deserve the number 15 to be retire. Y not ?
@@Swaggmusik1 good point, I think instead of Melo saying that Denver purposely had a vendetta by giving #15 to somebody as his pitch to get his number retired, he should be trying to tell people that he left as part of a big plan to help Denver win a championship because he could see the future
Melo was a bucket. Should be a first ballot hof despite not winning a ring in the NBA. His career stats, resume and impact on the culture alone makes him worthy. With all that said, Jokic is in a different league. And they don't belong in the same sentence.
Very not on topic...but the video quality is amazing. You can really tell that you've put effort into the production of the podcast and it looks 10/10. Also guessing the upload is in 60FPS :)
Melo: 0 championships 0 MVP’s 0 scoring titles 0 DPoTY Wanted out of Denver Never achieved anything after leaving. Denver owes Melo absolutely nothing. 15 will forever be Jokic in that town.
RUclips's Pavlovian Conditioning has me always skipping the first segment of any RUclips video, with the assumption that the content creator is just wasting time and padding the runtime. With that, I arbitrarily skipped to the 6 minute mark on this video, and that happens to be when the video really starts. Content creators are just garbage.
Me personally I’m rocking with melo all day. The league was different compared to now. Jokic is good but he doesn’t wow me in anyway. When i see the number 15 in Denver I think of melo. Mind you im in my mid late 30s . Melo was a bad mf offensively fr score from all levels on the court and create anything he wanted
Denver left the number available, because they didn't intend to retire it for Melo, especially after he demanded a trade. Jokic got the number he always wore. Nobody knew how good he would turn out to be when they gave him the number. Frankly, I don't believe they even thought about Melo by that point.
Nikola Jokic's jersey was #15 since he was drafted in 2014. If Jokic wasn't remotely close to the success he is today, Melo wouldn't be making a big deal about this at all. And it wasn't like the Nuggets were fortune tellers who could accurately predict Jokic's meteoric rise and value to the franchise. They recognized his potential, and then things panned out in everyone's favor. I'd rather see both #15's up on the Denver rafters, having grown up in Denver and admiring Melo, while taking pride in the championship Nuggs we have today, led by Jokic. Accr. to Sporting News: "Jokic wears No. 15 for the most Jokic reason ever. According to The Athletic's Nick Kosmider, Jokic chose the number when he was on a youth team in Serbia. He was the biggest kid on the team and No. 15 was the biggest jersey available."
Nobody knew Jokic was gonna be who he was. He was drafted during a Taco Bell commercial😂. Melo was reaching when he said that they gave him 15 to erase what he did
Melo’s biggest downfall was being drafted with Lebron and D Wade and thinking that he is the same caliber player. He was great and a hall of farmer, but he’s not even in D Wade’s class let alone a top-20 all timer. He lost the number by forcing his way out of Denver (regardless of whether they were rebuilding).
Is Melo developmentally disabled? The Nuggets didn't expect their second round pick in 2014 to be an all-star much less to be the best player in the league for the last 3 years. Even if they did know that, why would they keep that number from him? It's too stupid to believe this came out of that man's mouth.
Jokic joined the nuggets while Carmelo was still in the league. What were the nuggets supposed to do? Retire his number as soon as he demanded a trade? No. Tough shit, truly sorry
First of all Melo ain’t do nothing in Denver. He ain’t bring no chips. So nobody give a dam bout retiring his #. He ain’t got 1 ring. 😂 joker got Denver they first championship! He’s the best to ever wear #15 for Denver. Point blank!
It’s simple: Jokic probably ask for #15, and they gave it to him. It’s not like he was their hot prospect. I think the Nuggets would have eventually retired his jersey, and maybe that’s why Melo is bitter.
Greetings from Serbia Clear information regarding the number 15 worn by Jokic, Jokic wore the same number 15 in the Mega Lex club, so if he could have taken it in Denver (as you said the number is not retired), why would he change the jersey number that is not used and which he carries his entire basketball career????
Huge Melo fan... can't agree with him here. What legacy of his are the Nuggets trying to erase? The 1 WCF appearance that him and Iverson had where they didn't do shit? Melo needs to cool it. He's nowhere near Jokic's level.
Realize how much of a casual you are. Why are you comparing Jokic and Melo? Did Melo compare himself to Jokic? Did Melo say anything negative about Jokic? Did Melo even really mention Jokic outside of saying the nuggets gave him the number? So what are you not agreeing with what did Melo say for you not to agree with? What does Melo stats have to do with anything Melo said? What does comparing Jokic career to Melos have to do with anything Melo said? lol you’re a casual who’s criticizing and going after Melo for imaginary media narratives lol btw Melo made the WCF with Billups not Iverson
@@youngmelo3717 What don't I agree with what Melo said? Let's see, maybe that the Nuggets are trying to erase his so called legacy in Denver by giving no. 15 to Joker. Made it pretty clear in my post. Melo giving you his Honey Nut Cheerios 🤣🤣🤣
Melo is an NBA icon, shit, even as a kid in a country side little town I clearly remember my cousins having his posters on their walls and his NBA live Cover. Melo is a future HoF. Melo will always be remembered by the Denver fans because they are going to acknowledge that someone who did some great things for their organisation, regardless of how it ended, has been inducted into the HoF and that is a part of not only basketball history but also the History of the Nuggets and Melo’s career. This whole jersey nonsense is ridiculous. To imply the Nuggets owe him something is ridiculous. He was made a millionaire multiple times over by the Nuggets and he gave the nuggets his skills in return. Given the racial undertones that surrounded Jokic last season this also came off as a “They gave the white boy my jersey number so they can erase me!” Type of argument which is also ridiculous. If Jokic came into the league and crashed out in 2 seasons Melo wouldnt have said “How dare the Nuggets give my jersey number to this bum!?”. There are many players who had significant impacts on franchises across the league who will never have their numbere retired because that is reserves for the top of the top or someone seriously significant to the org in the event of a death or tragedy.
@@lionelsheja6381Melo won’t admit this but he never had best interest for Denver after all. Right after his buddy Lebron got Swept by the Nuggets themselves, he suddenly announced his retirement. Just like Lebron had made retirement comments same night😂 Like Coach Malone said “the narrative wasn’t about us”🎯 “put that in your pipe & smoke it”🗣️ it’s deeper than a jersey number but Melo refuses to admit😭
Chauncey Billups said it best about Melo - "...he could have games where he had 20, 22 [points], we win the game, and he’s mad. He might have 36, and he’s in there, you know, we lose the game, and he’s in there picking everybody up. Scoring 30 meant too much." Melo is remembered as one of the greatest scorers, Jokic will be remembered as a 2-time MVP and a CHAMPION.
I have been a Nuggets fan all my life and when Melo was drafted, I cheered even more, because Carmelo was a Great player. But when he forced his way out of Denver, I was upset and the fan base didn't appreciate his actions. But now, with that being said, NIKOLA JOKIC will go down as the greatest Nuggets player of all time. He is a walking Legend in his prime. Carmelo is just jealous, because he doesn't have a ring or MVP on his resume.
Melo is one of the greatest ever however Jokic is entering a different atmosphere of all time greats. Multiple times MVP with a Ring yeah it’s his Jersey number now.
@@tamukachinyadza1095 alex english retired as the 7th leading scorer and look at him now. Melo retired as 9th and will be dropping out soon as well. He is trash outside scoring. Even as a scorer he was inefficient. KD, Kobe, lebron, Dirk, Dwade, paul pierce all had better career true shooting percentage.
When we say melo is one of the greatest, we mean top 25. When we say Jokic will go down in history as one of the greatest players ever, we mean he’s projected to make top 5 fasho.
@@CyrogenicNation There wasn't a single thing petty about it. Melo left 4.5 years earlier, he was still in the prime of his career, never wore the number again, and Jokic had that number when he played in Serbia, so Denver obliged him. Melo's the one being petty, conspiratorial, and self-centered here.
@@CyrogenicNation Not petty at all, Melo left and was in the middle of his career. Nobody was thinking about a number "belonging" to a former player, he left and it was an available number. He didn't do anything worth anybody even remembering "That was Melo's number", it's not like Jordan or LeBron with the 23 and 6, or Duncan and Garnett with 21. I forgot he ever wore a number besides 7. Once Melo left it was just another number in circulation, and Jokic did greater things with it than Melo.
Why do casuals always think these 3 were in the same team at the same time. I literally argue with casuals all the time who think these 3 played together
Dude, i definitely didnt expect Nuggets thuggets to win back then. Fun team to watch, but they were going up against prime Spurs, Suns and Lakers with Kobe. And Melo as good as he was he was never considered the best player in the league. Meanwhile Jokic is 2x mvp (should be 3) and once his team got healthy he got a ring.
I NEVER would've expected that trio to be more than a hot mess that sometimes might look good together. We never got to see it, though, cuz Iverson was traded for Billups, and McDyess.
I was born and raised in Denver,Co and Melo was the reason I even got into watching basketball. He made the Nuggets fun to watch and became my favorite player. With that said, the way he left Denver left a sour taste in fans and the organizations mouths. He did a lot for the Nuggets, but to make Jokic change numbers isnt fair to Jokic. Melo was a good player, but Jokic is a great player. I think if Melo left denver in better terms we wouldnt even be having this arguement. The way Melo left he did it in a way where it felt like idgaf i just want out mentality. So to see him crying now about not retiring his jersey is kinda funny to me. He should just focus on having the Knicks retire his jersey, because the Nuggets wont be doing it lol
If you seen the actual video, he’s not crying. He felt a way once Jokic came on the court wearing 15 in general. It’s more about the organization having a nasty taste in their mouth compared to Jokic. Imagine a Magic player wearing 12 and that person going and winning a chip and two mvps and now you can’t retire Dwights jersey. That’s crazy. But look at that roster tho, no matter how bad of an organization the Magic is, nobody wears 12. That’s my point.
@@Rugbyrug Denver was under no obligation to put #15 on ice for a player who was still in the prime of his career when they drafted Jokic, never wore the number again, and was Jokic's number when he was in Serbia. Melo, once again, making all about him instead of the team.
Yep unless you won some chips and left on good terms, there's literally no reason your old number should be reserved or even considered for retirement when you leave at age 28-29 in the middle of your career
@@Rugbyrug I feel bad for the guy bcuz he was once my favorite player. Its a hard arguement bcuz Melo did do a lot for the Nuggets. But the org had no obligation to hold his number when he was still in his prime playing in NY. Also nobody ever thought a 41st pick would do what hes doing so this is a crazy situation to happen in the first place. I wouldnt even be mad if when Jokic retires the Nuggets retire them both. Melos 15 in the Sky Blue color and Jokic with the Current colors. That would be a win/win.
@@Rugbyrugnah, no one would have thought Jokic when he was drafted would be this good. If Jokic was a scrub while wearing 15, we wouldn't even have this issue. But then Jokic became the player he is today. Melo is barking at the wrong tree. He has no one to blame or maybe if he wants to blame something, which is himself when he left Denver.
@@TechnoRap64 What did you just say? A guy that never got it done is better than a guy that got it done? Also, a guy that did way more in half the seasons than Melo did his entire career? You are trippin.
Let me tell you something: 1. (and not even close) Melo thinks the world revolves around him 2. They gave #15 to Anthony Randolph before Joker (no problem with that Melo?) 3. Joker wore #15 loooong before NBA
@@BrandynThom well, you can gather that by simply watching the carmelo video. he didnt even do his research. he just felt like denver tried to erase his history with the team by giving his number to jokic. but if that mfer would have done his research, he would know that jokic was already wearing that same number. this isnt some ploy by denver to erase carmelo. thats why carmelo thinks the world revolves around him, because its always about him.
@@sthao1733on top of that. Joker was a 22 mpg 2nd round Role Player when he got the number. He really thinks Joker was given that number cause Denver knew he was on pace to be a HOF’er? 😂 Like Giannis, NO ONE so Joker being THIS good 😂 the man’s damn near went undrafted!!
I have no dog in this fight. 1) Melo wanted out of Denver. 2) The Nuggets gave #15 to a 2nd round pick who had worn that number his entire life. 3) Jokic has clearly ascended into a class that Melo never reached. Melo needs to let this go.
And he blames the Knicks for not putting a team around him when he's the reason they didn't have assets. People forgetting that he was in a contract year and couldnt even be bothered to wait until free agency. Stop tryna tell a fan base how to feel about a player..@@atrain2345
How is he delusional? He was a many time all star and all nba player in Denver that turned the franchise completely around. He''s also a top ten scorer all time and will be a first ballot hall of famer. You sound completely ignorant of his career in Denver. Those were his best NBA years. I agree Jokic is a better player but Melo was a great Nugget that absolutely should have his jersey in the rafters here in Denver.
@@tompratt7125Bro I’m a big Melo fan but Melo knows damn well Jokic ranks higher than him all time and deservingly so. But in a 1 v 1 Melo would dawg him lol
If i was in Melo's situation, I would have been happy for my ex team for winning a championship and developemnt such a team and player in Jokic. I will be happy. The fact that Melo is bring this up is that he is the most petty player in history of NBA.
They had the same team the next year. They replaced Dahntay Jones with Aaron Aflalo, and that’s it. Do some research before you fall for Melo revisionism. He wanted to be in New York and that’s the reason he left.
@@sawyeral If Melo says otherwise he's absolutely full of shit. He wanted to go to NYC....and, maybe more importantly, his wife wanted to go to NYC. I remember reading a big ESPN The Magazine article back in the day where Melo was picture, smoking a cigar, talking about how he wanted to get his "brand" out there and he obviously thought NYC was the place to do it.
Melo only care about Jokic's number is because Jokic became the best player in the NBA and brought a chip to Denver while he the previous owner of that number didn't do any of that
Yeah it's really feminine for Melo to vocally be acting like this over an old number going to someone else, who happened to do better things with it. That's like if Melo owned a house/property he got tired of, sold it and moved to a penthouse in New York, then Jokic comes along and buys the house/property and upgrades it and then Melo comes crying about how it's not fair Jokic made the property look so good and says he wants his old house back
Melo salty asf. Jokic owns 15 & it will be hanged on the rafters here in Denver after its all said & done. One is a 2x league mvp and a finals mvp and the other is just a conference finals participant 🤷🏽♂️ he left denver because his ex wife told him too keep the same energy 👋🏽
Me too, but their tandem was short lived. If AI came to Denver in 04-05 he and Melo would gotten out of the first round together and maybe AI gets his number retired in Denver too had he played 3-4 or 5 seasons there, he was their year in a half
This is an unique situation. While I understand why Melo would say something, he has to accept that Jokic has simply accomplished more than him. He brought a title to the city, won multiple MVPs, great ambassador of the team, etc. There's levels to this.
Thank you Stephan A the Nuggets had no ill intentions either. 1. Anthony Rudolph got number before Jokic after Melo. 2. No one including Denver could have ever dreamed a 41st pick 2nd rounder would he in conversations as an all timer. 3. Jokic wore the number 15 as a kid. 4 your right the Nuggets owe him nothing the number will be retired in Jokic honor!
The ironic thing is there had recently been momentum in the Nuggets diehard fanbase to reconnect with Melo, for the team to reconnect and get on a more positive footing with him. For everyone to focus on his years with the Nuggets and not his forcing a move out of Denver. But he has just blown all that up.
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Melo is a Knick.
He wanted out of Denver.
Denver has 0 obligations to retire his jersey.
“I never make it personal with athletes” - Stephan A smith
“LONZO I HAVE YOUR MEDICAL INFO AND KNOW YOUR DOCTOR IM NOT LYING”
This after lonzo confronted his lie about not being able to sit down.
He's barely a knick
Couldn't disagree more strongly, Melo had his best years in Denver. The Knicks did squat in his years there. And it's not a question of obligation. Melo completely turned the Nuggets franchise around from a perennial garbage team into regular winning and playoffs every year. He handled the trade situation with class and by going via trade instead of free agency the Nuggets got a huge haul from the Knicks including a draft pick that became Jamal Murray. The Nuggets owners have been petty. They should have kept the #15 so they could retire Melo's number and given Jokic another number so his jersey could eventually join Melo's in the rafters here.
@@tompratt7125doesn’t change the fact that his best years resulted in getting bounced out. He forced his way out of Denver with that terrible trade.
@tompratt7125 going to the playoffs and his best years didn't mean anything to Melo. That's why he wanted out of Denver. Staying in Denver didn't matter to melo why would retiring his # in Denver matter?
Ray Allen had a solid Bucks career mare it to the ECF lost a Game 7 to Sixers but you don't hear him saying Bucks should retire his 34 now that Giannis wear that number
Best point on this matter…excatly the same
Ray was never mvp caliber in Milwaukee. Melo was never mvp caliber in Denver. Those #s don’t deserve to be retired in their honor
@@MussoliniEsco melo came in 3rd twice for the mvp race I stg yall don’t be knowing what yall talking about
@@mauriceamos4006 3rd place ain’t 2nd or 1st. And Melo was never considered a top 3 player in the nba at any point while in Denver. Cut the bullshit
@@MussoliniEsco you cut the bullshit bruh, I think y’all sleep on melo I’m not saying he better than jokic but can you imagine going against prime lebron, prime Kobe, shaq with d wade, Boston big 3, the spurs big 3, and Dwight in Orlando, Steve Nash and the suns and people on yo case about not winning mvp😂 alot of people felt like jokic shouldn’t have even won his first mvp over lebron and Giannis cut ts out
Melo force his way out of Denver and now he wants his jersey retire on Denver
👏👏 - getting tired of the whole number thing anyway!
It is as KD complains abt the same thing with OKC.
doesnt really matter
@@billalzerouali2528The zero rings make it matter!
@@dnn32 At least KD played like 10 years for the organization though, and played defense, won an MVP, plus he's part of the beginning of OKC's history too along with Westbrook etc. Melo on the other hand just wanted to score 30 points whether it was good or bad for the team, didn't play defense, etc and unlike OKC and Durant, the Nuggets were already a team with history so, outside of us who were around to watch and enjoy the 2000's Nuggets, that team won't really be remembered
Jokic was a second round pick its no way the nuggets were like "Here wear this so we can spite melo" nobody knew this man would become what he is
When he got the first mvp that was it between who's the better player and more deserving. Joker deserves this. If you want to retire both, that's fine, but you have to do jokic first. He's that much better and more impactful
You were very accurate on your comment. I just think that even retiring Anthony's Jersey is insulting to Jokic.
@thiagomennabarretoguedes2835 they have to do something for Melo to acknowledge what he did for the franchise. Because for a long time he was all alone and only had a broke down Iverson for 2 years and a veteran Billups for 1 very good year. He didn't have a jamal Murray, or mpj. The league was way different then too.
@@BlackMarvel25 yeah, I am not saying that Carmelo was bad or that he didn't help Denver. I agree with you. But there is no way that you treat both the same by retiring both jerseys. And I am not even considering the way Anthony left the team.
Real hoppers know mvp don't matter that's why jokic didn't win last year because dudes in suits just pick a guy but yeah 15 is jokic number he won a championship in that number
JOKIC WORE 15 BEFORE HE CAME INTO NBA
Melo Denver jersey went triple platinum in every hood
AND MY JEWELS BLUE AND YELLOW THE TYPE OF SHIT THAT MAKE EM CALL YOU CARMELO
Shoes too
Yeah Stephen A don’t know we been retired and hung up his jersey down here in the ghetto
Throw that jersey away from a ringless complainer.
Exactly. Fat Lever and Mutumbo have their jerseys retired for the Nuggets. Melo had a much better Nuggets career than both - during an era where the West was a nightmare. Retire both 15s. Give melo a sky blue banner to match the jersey from that era.
Jokic was wearing #15 in Serbia at age 17..😊😉🇷🇸❤❗️☦️💯
Carmelo’s attitude during Linsanity and his relationship with Lin after transfers spoke volume about his character, also remarks from his coach Karl and teammate Chauncey Billups both extremely intelligent people
Jokic is a walking triple double with 2 mvps and a ring. It doesn't matter what number he's wearing
Dont even put Melo in the same sentence as Jokic. Jokic is on the path to greatness while Melo never matured until the last minute. Skills and stats aside Jokic hands down has the better attitude and locker room presence. Its incomparable, Jokic is hands down better.
Jokic had been using #15 in Serbia, long before coming to NBA.He requested that number.
I really do not think that Denver gave Jokić the #15 jersey in hopes that it would wipe out or diminish Carmelo Anthony’s legacy in Denver. Jokić was the 41st overall pick in his 2014 draft, expectations for draftees that far down are usually faint. Having said that, when Carmelo Anthony departed from Denver in 2011, I do feel like Nuggets administrators should have made the #15 permanently inaccessible to any other player. The number should have been informally retired after Carmelo’s departure and then formally retired after Carmelo’s retirement from the NBA. I think the fact that Denver’s ownership allowed for ANY other player not named Carmelo Anthony to wear the #15 for the Nuggets post February 22nd, 2011 was deliberately done to irritate Carmelo. Denver executives clearly did not like the way Carmelo forced his way out of Colorado so that he could get to his preferred location of New York City, giving the #15 to ANY other player who wanted it was their way of being spiteful, it just so happened that Nikola Jokić was the guy who asked for it but I think that Denver decision makers would have given it to anyone who wanted the number. I think that Nikola Jokić accepted the number simply because it was available, not spite on his part towards Carmelo Anthony, had #15 not been available, I think that Jokić would have gladly settled for another one.
Lol no hahahH
What’s the problem with just retiring both number 15, Melo deserves his jersey to be up there n the rafters just like the joker. Melo did his thing in Denver when they drafted him in 03 . The nuggets weren’t nothing before Melo got there wasn’t even irrelevant. Mind you yes the joker is doing his thing kinda surpassed him with the Denver nuggets. I believe Melo done more for the nuggets than the knicks just my opinion. I hate the fact that our people try to diminish Melo legacy like he wasn’t a player to be reckoned with in his era yes he didn’t provide a championship but he still was a killer on the court. Joker is a beast in this era right now it’s no comparison they both deserve the number 15 to be retire. Y not ?
As it has played out I feel like Carmelo trolled himself by travelling back in time and stealing Jokic’s number.
Stephen A talks about himself more than sports.
But him forcing his way out is the only reason they were able to get all those draft picks and players
Denver fans ain’t seeing how he really blessed them by asking out smh 🤦🏾♂️
@@Swaggmusik1 good point, I think instead of Melo saying that Denver purposely had a vendetta by giving #15 to somebody as his pitch to get his number retired, he should be trying to tell people that he left as part of a big plan to help Denver win a championship because he could see the future
Jokic is obviously a better player, a much more complete player!!
Melo was a great nugget and will be a deserving HOFer.
Jokic may be the greatest offensive force ever.
There are levels to this.
2 points. 1 joker is better than Melo. 2 Denver would rather have joker as the face of the organization over Melo. It’s the mid west 🤷🏽♂️
Melo was a bucket. Should be a first ballot hof despite not winning a ring in the NBA. His career stats, resume and impact on the culture alone makes him worthy.
With all that said, Jokic is in a different league. And they don't belong in the same sentence.
This is not a 20 plus minute discussion. Jokic. Period.
Melo was only scorer
Don't compare it to all around MVP Jokic!
How about assists Stat?
As a lifelong Knicks fan, I never liked the trade that brought Melo to the Knicks, but I'd do that same trade for the Joker in a New York minute.
Very not on topic...but the video quality is amazing. You can really tell that you've put effort into the production of the podcast and it looks 10/10. Also guessing the upload is in 60FPS :)
Melo:
0 championships
0 MVP’s
0 scoring titles
0 DPoTY
Wanted out of Denver
Never achieved anything after leaving.
Denver owes Melo absolutely nothing. 15 will forever be Jokic in that town.
RUclips's Pavlovian Conditioning has me always skipping the first segment of any RUclips video, with the assumption that the content creator is just wasting time and padding the runtime.
With that, I arbitrarily skipped to the 6 minute mark on this video, and that happens to be when the video really starts. Content creators are just garbage.
What did Melo even do?
Melo can only dream being a player Jokic is
The Nuggets knew Jokic was going to be this good, that's why they drafted him 41st, during a commercial.
I think even if they retired Melo's 15 before Jokic arrived, by this point if Jokic said to take it down and give me 15, Denver would do it.
Never seen so many ex-NBA players ganging up on a chill dominant player before. Like, grow up.
“What does a team owe you if you forced your way out of their franchise”? NOTHING! And Ty sir.
Imo there’s no drama. Nuggets should have protected the number, BUT there was no conspiracy. Nobody knew Jokic was going to be this amazing.
Stephen a picking up from where Shannon left off from with the great content🔥
Jokic is on another stratosphere to Melo. Melo was great in Denver but he never took them over the Hump. JOKIC did and he is a denver legend already
Good point to never be personal....bc theres no need for it. Very professional.
Me personally I’m rocking with melo all day. The league was different compared to now. Jokic is good but he doesn’t wow me in anyway. When i see the number 15 in Denver I think of melo. Mind you im in my mid late 30s . Melo was a bad mf offensively fr score from all levels on the court and create anything he wanted
Thank you
Melo had like 3 or 4 all-star snubs on Denver. Consistently underrated.
he could have 10 , still not better than jokic
Denver left the number available, because they didn't intend to retire it for Melo, especially after he demanded a trade.
Jokic got the number he always wore. Nobody knew how good he would turn out to be when they gave him the number. Frankly, I don't believe they even thought about Melo by that point.
Nikola Jokic's jersey was #15 since he was drafted in 2014. If Jokic wasn't remotely close to the success he is today, Melo wouldn't be making a big deal about this at all. And it wasn't like the Nuggets were fortune tellers who could accurately predict Jokic's meteoric rise and value to the franchise. They recognized his potential, and then things panned out in everyone's favor.
I'd rather see both #15's up on the Denver rafters, having grown up in Denver and admiring Melo, while taking pride in the championship Nuggs we have today, led by Jokic.
Accr. to Sporting News:
"Jokic wears No. 15 for the most Jokic reason ever. According to The Athletic's Nick Kosmider, Jokic chose the number when he was on a youth team in Serbia. He was the biggest kid on the team and No. 15 was the biggest jersey available."
Nobody knew Jokic was gonna be who he was. He was drafted during a Taco Bell commercial😂. Melo was reaching when he said that they gave him 15 to erase what he did
Denver draft the Joker during a damn Taco Bell commercial. They didn’t know what he was gonna turn into.
You should have put Total Minutes Played on that graphic also. For 3 of those years jokic didn't even start 😂😂😂😂
In today's NBA, Carmelo would average 30 plus. Joker in the early 2000s would have way lower stats with the size of the NBA and the number of bigs
And he would still not win anything because he a looooosssseeerr babeeeeee
Melo’s biggest downfall was being drafted with Lebron and D Wade and thinking that he is the same caliber player. He was great and a hall of farmer, but he’s not even in D Wade’s class let alone a top-20 all timer. He lost the number by forcing his way out of Denver (regardless of whether they were rebuilding).
The Nate Rob bit doesn't make sense. Nate chose to step in the ring , he literally asked for it
Is Melo developmentally disabled? The Nuggets didn't expect their second round pick in 2014 to be an all-star much less to be the best player in the league for the last 3 years. Even if they did know that, why would they keep that number from him? It's too stupid to believe this came out of that man's mouth.
Jokic joined the nuggets while Carmelo was still in the league. What were the nuggets supposed to do? Retire his number as soon as he demanded a trade? No. Tough shit, truly sorry
First of all Melo ain’t do nothing in Denver. He ain’t bring no chips. So nobody give a dam bout retiring his #. He ain’t got 1 ring. 😂 joker got Denver they first championship! He’s the best to ever wear #15 for Denver. Point blank!
Melo belongs in the Alex English/Bernard King/World Free conversation
Jokic will be in the Magic/Kareem/Bird conversation by the time he is done
I hate they gave jokic Melo’s number but they did and it’s his now. He’s the better player.
It’s simple: Jokic probably ask for #15, and they gave it to him. It’s not like he was their hot prospect. I think the Nuggets would have eventually retired his jersey, and maybe that’s why Melo is bitter.
Tbh it's more on the nuggets for not saving the Jersey but u can't be mad a Joker at all
There is no drama about the Jersey, Jokic is an NBA Champion. Melo is a loser, nuff said!
2 MVP Vs 0 MVP and a champ is all u need to compare
Melo was very good however you cant compare , Jokic is in another league imo.
Melo like that ex u wont block on social 😂
caring what retired players have to say is moronic
Greetings from Serbia
Clear information regarding the number 15 worn by Jokic, Jokic wore the same number 15 in the Mega Lex club, so if he could have taken it in Denver (as you said the number is not retired), why would he change the jersey number that is not used and which he carries his entire basketball career????
Huge Melo fan... can't agree with him here. What legacy of his are the Nuggets trying to erase? The 1 WCF appearance that him and Iverson had where they didn't do shit? Melo needs to cool it. He's nowhere near Jokic's level.
Realize how much of a casual you are. Why are you comparing Jokic and Melo? Did Melo compare himself to Jokic? Did Melo say anything negative about Jokic? Did Melo even really mention Jokic outside of saying the nuggets gave him the number? So what are you not agreeing with what did Melo say for you not to agree with? What does Melo stats have to do with anything Melo said? What does comparing Jokic career to Melos have to do with anything Melo said? lol you’re a casual who’s criticizing and going after Melo for imaginary media narratives lol btw Melo made the WCF with Billups not Iverson
@@youngmelo3717 What don't I agree with what Melo said? Let's see, maybe that the Nuggets are trying to erase his so called legacy in Denver by giving no. 15 to Joker. Made it pretty clear in my post. Melo giving you his Honey Nut Cheerios 🤣🤣🤣
Melo is an NBA icon, shit, even as a kid in a country side little town I clearly remember my cousins having his posters on their walls and his NBA live Cover. Melo is a future HoF. Melo will always be remembered by the Denver fans because they are going to acknowledge that someone who did some great things for their organisation, regardless of how it ended, has been inducted into the HoF and that is a part of not only basketball history but also the History of the Nuggets and Melo’s career. This whole jersey nonsense is ridiculous. To imply the Nuggets owe him something is ridiculous. He was made a millionaire multiple times over by the Nuggets and he gave the nuggets his skills in return. Given the racial undertones that surrounded Jokic last season this also came off as a “They gave the white boy my jersey number so they can erase me!” Type of argument which is also ridiculous. If Jokic came into the league and crashed out in 2 seasons Melo wouldnt have said “How dare the Nuggets give my jersey number to this bum!?”. There are many players who had significant impacts on franchises across the league who will never have their numbere retired because that is reserves for the top of the top or someone seriously significant to the org in the event of a death or tragedy.
Jokic chasing the greatest players who have ever played he passed Melo up two years ago
😂 naw he's gotta get in the top 15 first
Passed them yes, chasing them? Not even a lil
Last year..
Stop playing kid. Jokic is better than your 20 favorite players of all time.@@darrellsaunders6089
@@thomasnguyen3925Jokic chasing.
A crucial stat is missing from those lists - how much more efficient Jokic is than Melo ever was.
In general, all bigs are more efficient than wings / perimeter players
and finals MVP
No way it’s almost like he’s a center or something
Efficient? lol, Melo was never comparable to Jokic. They don't belong in the same universe.
@@DiamondEDCbigs that camping under the basket. Not all bigs plays like embiid and jokic.
Jokic gave Nuggets a ring, not Carmelo. So 15 is Jokic for the Denver franchise.
Which is petty. Nuggets gave it away
@@Chris56076he wanted out. He's said that he didn't want to be there if Denver wanted to rebuld.
@@EmeraldArchercause why you rebuilding when they had a perfect team just a shitty coach lol jokic gots todays ruies advantage not better than melo
@@capitalg1415 Carmelo said it himself on all the smoke. I'm not talking about Jokic.
I love Melo and when he was in his prime he was a beast.
However Jokic is in another class, there is no comparison at all.
True, but for one of your best players EVER you gotta retire his jersey.
@lionelsheja6381 they ain't gotta do shit, he left them forced his way out lmao they can do w.e
@@lionelsheja6381 he literally disrespected the franchise
@@lionelsheja6381Melo won’t admit this but he never had best interest for Denver after all. Right after his buddy Lebron got Swept by the Nuggets themselves, he suddenly announced his retirement. Just like Lebron had made retirement comments same night😂 Like Coach Malone said “the narrative wasn’t about us”🎯 “put that in your pipe & smoke it”🗣️ it’s deeper than a jersey number but Melo refuses to admit😭
It is as KD wants okc to retire his jersey. Quite similar examples.
5:58 is when he actually starts talking about the Melo and Jokic jersey number thing. Save you some time.
Tnx
Thx
Thank you dude.
Thanks bruh
Not all heroes wear capes! Thanks Brother! 😉
Trust me Joker is never going to talk about this shit if the media ask him about it. Thats the difference between the 2 guys. Melo salty AF.
What drama? Melo won JACK SQUAT, and Jokic won a ring and an FMVP.
and 2 league mvps
And was robbed of a 3rd
@@aldenduffieldIII📠📠📠
And played nobody .. only other big in the league is Joel … bro has no competition
@percymims4860 He faced against the twin towers in Minnesota KAT & Rudy, and then AD who was supposed to be the Jokic stopper.
Stop it.
Carmelo left without a title or an MVP. #15 belongs to The Joker
What crack rock u smoking?melo still better of all time
@@TechnoRap64 no he aint
@@TechnoRap64 At what? Bad planning stat padding and not playing defense?
@@TechnoRap64says the guy taking fentanyl with his dumb take
@@TechnoRap64 Put the pipe down
Chauncey Billups said it best about Melo - "...he could have games where he had 20, 22 [points], we win the game, and he’s mad. He might have 36, and he’s in there, you know, we lose the game, and he’s in there picking everybody up. Scoring 30 meant too much." Melo is remembered as one of the greatest scorers, Jokic will be remembered as a 2-time MVP and a CHAMPION.
multiple champ when it's all said and done...
@@JohnS-gf4sznaw they’ll never win again
And that’s before analytics took over
@@snapbackznfitzJust like Dirk
@@Disxreetexactly like Dirk 🤷🏾♂️ Gone hold on to that championship forever
Jokic won a chip for Denver that should be the end of discussion.
I have been a Nuggets fan all my life and when Melo was drafted, I cheered even more, because Carmelo was a Great player. But when he forced his way out of Denver, I was upset and the fan base didn't appreciate his actions. But now, with that being said, NIKOLA JOKIC will go down as the greatest Nuggets player of all time. He is a walking Legend in his prime. Carmelo is just jealous, because he doesn't have a ring or MVP on his resume.
Even if Jokic leaves Denver in the future, which by the way has
He didn't force his way out...
Nobody cares about Jokic. His TV ratings are abysmal. Even in the finals nobody watches. The only people who care are internet bots and race warriors.
@@nilesmaxwell758 he did
Remember when he said "I can't pass the ball to myself? Pepperidge farm remembers
Melo should be thankful that Jokic let him borrow the number before he arrived.
Best comment ever! Anthony should be honored to share a jersey with Jokic.
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Well damn😮
Cold😭🥶
Facts 💯
Melo is one of the greatest ever however Jokic is entering a different atmosphere of all time greats. Multiple times MVP with a Ring yeah it’s his Jersey number now.
Exactly Melo is one of those borderline top 75 players. Jokic has a great chance to be top 10 when all is said and done.
@@Young-ep8iktop 10 in scoring is boarderline ?😂
@@tamukachinyadza1095 He's also top 5 in bricks too, he's a selfish chucker and that's why he never won shit
@@tamukachinyadza1095 alex english retired as the 7th leading scorer and look at him now. Melo retired as 9th and will be dropping out soon as well. He is trash outside scoring. Even as a scorer he was inefficient. KD, Kobe, lebron, Dirk, Dwade, paul pierce all had better career true shooting percentage.
When we say melo is one of the greatest, we mean top 25.
When we say Jokic will go down in history as one of the greatest players ever, we mean he’s projected to make top 5 fasho.
Nobody thought Jokic was going to turn into the player that he is tho…..the Nuggets weren’t thinking that deep into it at the time to be petty
It was because Jokic was a nobody that makes it even more petty, Melo has a point but Denver shouldn't retire his number anyways
@@CyrogenicNationwhy it's not like he attends the games
@@CyrogenicNation There wasn't a single thing petty about it. Melo left 4.5 years earlier, he was still in the prime of his career, never wore the number again, and Jokic had that number when he played in Serbia, so Denver obliged him. Melo's the one being petty, conspiratorial, and self-centered here.
@@CyrogenicNation Not petty at all, Melo left and was in the middle of his career. Nobody was thinking about a number "belonging" to a former player, he left and it was an available number. He didn't do anything worth anybody even remembering "That was Melo's number", it's not like Jordan or LeBron with the 23 and 6, or Duncan and Garnett with 21. I forgot he ever wore a number besides 7. Once Melo left it was just another number in circulation, and Jokic did greater things with it than Melo.
Jokic winning a Championship did what we all expected Carmelo, Chauncey AND Iverson to do
And Kenyon Martin
Why do casuals always think these 3 were in the same team at the same time. I literally argue with casuals all the time who think these 3 played together
Dude, i definitely didnt expect Nuggets thuggets to win back then. Fun team to watch, but they were going up against prime Spurs, Suns and Lakers with Kobe. And Melo as good as he was he was never considered the best player in the league. Meanwhile Jokic is 2x mvp (should be 3) and once his team got healthy he got a ring.
@@youngmelo3717 Yeah! this dude is delusional. Nobody is expecting Melo to win anything.
I NEVER would've expected that trio to be more than a hot mess that sometimes might look good together. We never got to see it, though, cuz Iverson was traded for Billups, and McDyess.
I was born and raised in Denver,Co and Melo was the reason I even got into watching basketball. He made the Nuggets fun to watch and became my favorite player. With that said, the way he left Denver left a sour taste in fans and the organizations mouths. He did a lot for the Nuggets, but to make Jokic change numbers isnt fair to Jokic. Melo was a good player, but Jokic is a great player. I think if Melo left denver in better terms we wouldnt even be having this arguement. The way Melo left he did it in a way where it felt like idgaf i just want out mentality. So to see him crying now about not retiring his jersey is kinda funny to me. He should just focus on having the Knicks retire his jersey, because the Nuggets wont be doing it lol
If you seen the actual video, he’s not crying. He felt a way once Jokic came on the court wearing 15 in general. It’s more about the organization having a nasty taste in their mouth compared to Jokic. Imagine a Magic player wearing 12 and that person going and winning a chip and two mvps and now you can’t retire Dwights jersey. That’s crazy. But look at that roster tho, no matter how bad of an organization the Magic is, nobody wears 12. That’s my point.
@@Rugbyrug Denver was under no obligation to put #15 on ice for a player who was still in the prime of his career when they drafted Jokic, never wore the number again, and was Jokic's number when he was in Serbia. Melo, once again, making all about him instead of the team.
Yep unless you won some chips and left on good terms, there's literally no reason your old number should be reserved or even considered for retirement when you leave at age 28-29 in the middle of your career
@@Rugbyrug I feel bad for the guy bcuz he was once my favorite player. Its a hard arguement bcuz Melo did do a lot for the Nuggets. But the org had no obligation to hold his number when he was still in his prime playing in NY. Also nobody ever thought a 41st pick would do what hes doing so this is a crazy situation to happen in the first place. I wouldnt even be mad if when Jokic retires the Nuggets retire them both. Melos 15 in the Sky Blue color and Jokic with the Current colors. That would be a win/win.
@@Rugbyrugnah, no one would have thought Jokic when he was drafted would be this good. If Jokic was a scrub while wearing 15, we wouldn't even have this issue. But then Jokic became the player he is today. Melo is barking at the wrong tree. He has no one to blame or maybe if he wants to blame something, which is himself when he left Denver.
I'm taking Jokic all day, everyday.
What crack u on?melo is better all time
@@TechnoRap64 Melo won nothing. No chip. No individual awards. NOTHING. If anyone is on crack, it's you
@@TechnoRap64 What did you just say? A guy that never got it done is better than a guy that got it done? Also, a guy that did way more in half the seasons than Melo did his entire career? You are trippin.
@@TechnoRap64 Melo isnt even a hallèof fame. Jokic is already top 30 all time, and on his way to top 10.
@@TechnoRap64 I literally shat my pants how much i laughed at that comment 🤣🤣🤣
Let me tell you something:
1. (and not even close) Melo thinks the world revolves around him
2. They gave #15 to Anthony Randolph before Joker (no problem with that Melo?)
3. Joker wore #15 loooong before NBA
To not know someone, and say they think the world revolves around them is very assuming
@@BrandynThom well, you can gather that by simply watching the carmelo video. he didnt even do his research. he just felt like denver tried to erase his history with the team by giving his number to jokic. but if that mfer would have done his research, he would know that jokic was already wearing that same number. this isnt some ploy by denver to erase carmelo. thats why carmelo thinks the world revolves around him, because its always about him.
@@sthao1733🎯🎯🎯
@@sthao1733on top of that. Joker was a 22 mpg 2nd round Role Player when he got the number. He really thinks Joker was given that number cause Denver knew he was on pace to be a HOF’er? 😂
Like Giannis, NO ONE so Joker being THIS good 😂 the man’s damn near went undrafted!!
@@BrandynThom Melo is a famous person, we know enough about him to be able to say he does think the world revolves around him
Jokic always wore the number 15 jersey before he even went to nuggets anyway
Exactly! Melo is being "melo-dramatic!" 🤭😂
I have no dog in this fight.
1) Melo wanted out of Denver.
2) The Nuggets gave #15 to a 2nd round pick who had worn that number his entire life.
3) Jokic has clearly ascended into a class that Melo never reached.
Melo needs to let this go.
Jokic is real 15! There is no question.
Melo dont even go to nuggets games, he would actually get boo’ed if he comes here 🤷🏽♂️ #15 belongs to jokic
He got booed when he was playing for the Knicks, he got yall jamal Murray with that 1st rd pick
And he blames the Knicks for not putting a team around him when he's the reason they didn't have assets. People forgetting that he was in a contract year and couldnt even be bothered to wait until free agency. Stop tryna tell a fan base how to feel about a player..@@atrain2345
Melo is delusional. Jokic is 2 levels above Carmelo as a player .
Wow 😮💨
How is he delusional? He was a many time all star and all nba player in Denver that turned the franchise completely around. He''s also a top ten scorer all time and will be a first ballot hall of famer. You sound completely ignorant of his career in Denver. Those were his best NBA years. I agree Jokic is a better player but Melo was a great Nugget that absolutely should have his jersey in the rafters here in Denver.
Jokic ranks higher than Melo in the all time list for sure, BUT in a 1 v 1 Melo would dawg Jokic 😂
@@tompratt7125Bro I’m a big Melo fan but Melo knows damn well Jokic ranks higher than him all time and deservingly so. But in a 1 v 1 Melo would dawg him lol
@@tompratt7125 0 rings
5:54 is when he starts actually talking about Jokic
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If i was in Melo's situation, I would have been happy for my ex team for winning a championship and developemnt such a team and player in Jokic. I will be happy. The fact that Melo is bring this up is that he is the most petty player in history of NBA.
Why tf would he be happy for a team that didn’t even wanna keep his team together to run it back ?
They had the same team the next year. They replaced Dahntay Jones with Aaron Aflalo, and that’s it. Do some research before you fall for Melo revisionism. He wanted to be in New York and that’s the reason he left.
@@sawyeral If Melo says otherwise he's absolutely full of shit. He wanted to go to NYC....and, maybe more importantly, his wife wanted to go to NYC. I remember reading a big ESPN The Magazine article back in the day where Melo was picture, smoking a cigar, talking about how he wanted to get his "brand" out there and he obviously thought NYC was the place to do it.
He never even visited Denver after he left @@KClouisville
Melo didnt even watch a single Finals game last season. He watched the Knicks' PO games tho
Carmelo Anthony popularized the forced trade.
Lied y'all just be saying shit
Ummm definitely not. Not even close really
and playing no defense
Who would you rather retire? A 2x MVP, 1 Finals MVP, NBA Champion or a dude who only won a Scoring Title? LOL
Good point 👍🏽
Melo only care about Jokic's number is because Jokic became the best player in the NBA and brought a chip to Denver while he the previous owner of that number didn't do any of that
Yeah it's really feminine for Melo to vocally be acting like this over an old number going to someone else, who happened to do better things with it. That's like if Melo owned a house/property he got tired of, sold it and moved to a penthouse in New York, then Jokic comes along and buys the house/property and upgrades it and then Melo comes crying about how it's not fair Jokic made the property look so good and says he wants his old house back
True, the way Melo pouted reminds me of a jilted ex-girlfriend
Biggest difference is melo was a black hole while jokic is super efficient
The funny thing about this melo/jokic is that jokic doesn’t even care about this
Melo salty asf. Jokic owns 15 & it will be hanged on the rafters here in Denver after its all said & done. One is a 2x league mvp and a finals mvp and the other is just a conference finals participant 🤷🏽♂️ he left denver because his ex wife told him too keep the same energy 👋🏽
Skip to 5:54 if you want to listen to the Jokic/Melo talk instead of SAS ego rambling about himself
As a 50yo Denver native and lifelong Nuggets fan … Melo HOF - absolutely! 👏
Melo 15 retired in Denver - oh _hellllll_ no! ✋😂
Man I miss those old jerseys. Melo and Iverson days were so much fun.
Me too, but their tandem was short lived. If AI came to Denver in 04-05 he and Melo would gotten out of the first round together and maybe AI gets his number retired in Denver too had he played 3-4 or 5 seasons there, he was their year in a half
Regular season, maybe. Nothing muchg fun about losing in the 1st rd.
This is an unique situation. While I understand why Melo would say something, he has to accept that Jokic has simply accomplished more than him. He brought a title to the city, won multiple MVPs, great ambassador of the team, etc. There's levels to this.
Thank you Stephan A the Nuggets had no ill intentions either.
1. Anthony Rudolph got number before Jokic after Melo.
2. No one including Denver could have ever dreamed a 41st pick 2nd rounder would he in conversations as an all timer.
3. Jokic wore the number 15 as a kid.
4 your right the Nuggets owe him nothing the number will be retired in Jokic honor!
Jokic surpassed Melo at this point.
He has already done that around 3 or maybe 4 years ago
@@VanessosIliop.05 I agree. Jokic surpassed Melo when he won his first MVP, case closed.
The ironic thing is there had recently been momentum in the Nuggets diehard fanbase to reconnect with Melo, for the team to reconnect and get on a more positive footing with him. For everyone to focus on his years with the Nuggets and not his forcing a move out of Denver. But he has just blown all that up.