The absolute refusal of monotheism to understand polytheist cult images (all while having their own sacred inanimate objects), never ceases to astonish and amaze me.
Will you be making a video on your article "The Structure of Heaven and Earth: How Ancient Cosmology Shaped Everyone's Theology"? I think that would be a popular video.🙂
Ironic. Through the course of this video, and infused I suppose, by the advent of the rest of them and the culmination of my years, I thought about messaging you, InquBblRedr, and inquiring if you might have your own sort of Biblical Narrative or overall take? The title of your work seems like what I am after perhaps. I'm taking a lot in but feel that I could use something like a cohesive and clarifying something or other lol... really really enjoy your stuff, and found it quite hospitable the single small fee option available to become patron... 🙏🏻🌎❤️
I really appreciate you joining the channel, by the way! I'm still exploring all these topics myself. I am slowly working toward the overall picture of how and why the Bible was written. That will probably become a video once I have a firmer opinion of how and why the final Pentateuch was composed. Separately, I'm working on a "complete history of Israel" project. I have a big timeline with about forty references so far and I'm just getting started. I get that my videos so far are a bit scattershot, but I hope that they each give a sense of how complicated the Bible is and how much we still don't know.
This video sums up why I love the Bible! So many elements to pick apart and try to unravel. It's really a big riddle asking us for it to be solved. I'm so glad people like you exist Paul!
Well you pick them apart and unravel them in literally the worst kind of ways where you sit there and bash God so😅 keep loving the Bibbleee?🤷 should be ashamed of yourself, saying God’s sacrifice children to fire you that is so false and wicked and you chose the translation that makes it sound like it. Yeah you really love the Bible buddy.
Why are you acting like you care about the Bible again? You sit there and bash God all day and you’re trying to convince us you like the Bible? I think you think you can pick a part and unravel the Bible but you mean it in a different kind of way where you cherry pick certain things to make it sound like you know what you’re talking about when you have no idea in part because your blinded by hate and you didn’t look at any other sources because you took no other looks at any other stances on anything else. You’re doing the work in a great way my man keep loving the Bible.😂🤘God burnt kids🙄okeyyyyyy
There's a prophecy of Red Bull calves that are being sent to Israel from Tennessee. They want to slaughter unyoked red bull calves to usher in the Messiah. It's blasphemy to me.
From Old Testament. Golden calf thought to represent Egyptian bull god Apis in earlier period and of Canaanite fertility god Baal in the latter. Google is great incl images. ; )
Sureeeeeeeeeee you been looking at any comic books lately 😅 This hate for God will get you in trouble and bet you won’t be yo worried about Hods job when you me begging him for help😂I wish I loved something as much as you fools hate God nahhhh For a God you people hate you never let Him leave you mind or watch brain dead videos that take the same view everytime “Hod bad me better nowhere Satan” ogha ogha
Prof. John Day's book you mentioned (Yahweh and the gods and goddesses of ancient Canaan) is a great read even for someone not terribly familiar with the subject. John Day is also a kind individual--he'll respond to questions by email and even be polite when you're wrong about something :)
One often repeated claim, rarely contested, is that the golden calf (in Exodus) was intended to replace YHWH. In fact, the intent of making it was to replace Moses. This is clear in the text, people just don't like to read.
The calf was an idol representing Yahweh, the son of Canaanite god El, the bull. The story is part of the evolution of the religions of the Israelites, from the polytheistic Canaanite religion and Yahwism into the henotheistic Judaism. And how could the Israelites have known that Yahweh just made up the commandment that forbid graven images/idols?
Paul, I've got to hand it to you this is an excellent video. I knew there was some connection between the two stories and the political undercurrent between Judah and Israel, but what you presented here is fairly compelling. It also proposes an intriguing possibility as to why the Quran does not have Aaron perpetrating the act of constructing the golden calf, since there are biblical versions of the story which do not mention his role in the episode. This is highly theoretical, but it is something I'm wondering about.
@@InquisitiveBible I'm sure that there is more to it than simply the alternate versions of the calf story, but in one of the two tellings of the story in the Quran, the builder of the calf is an individual called as-Samiri which probably means the watchman (etymologically related to the word Samaritan, hmmm...), whereas in a different version it is never said who built the calf only that it may have been Aaron so the evidence is kind of murky. Further there are some scholars who argue that the figure of as-Samiri is in fact Aaron which is not without its share of problems. Michael Pregill has an excellent book on the subject of the reception history of the golden calf story from its prehistory to the emergence of the Quran, the Golden Calf between Bible and Quran. He does explore and argues that the figure of as-Samiri is Aaron and he provides a helpful tour of Jewish and Christian interpretations in the centuries leading up to the Quran. It's a fascinating read.
The true riddle of the Golden Calf story is.... In Exodus 32:21 it says - "And Moses said to Aaron, What did the people do to you that YOU LET THIS GREAT SIN come on them?"....sooo....Aaron committed the sin.... and managed to survive following massacre by the Levites..... HOW? 😳 WHY?? 🤔
@@CheburashkaGenovna the text very clearly has Aaron claim to be in very passive cooperation with what "the people" initiated & demanded of him. Hence it was "the people" who get slain by the Levites and not any members of Aaron's household
@@tsemayekekema2918 Passive...very passive... Please, help me to understand... "When the people saw that Moses was so long in coming down from the mountain, they gathered around Aaron and said, “Come, make us gods who will go before us. As for this fellow Moses who brought us up out of Egypt, we don’t know what has happened to him.” - Right? Aaron answered them, "Oh, you of little faith! Have you forgotten that the Lord, the creator heaven and earth, brought you out of slavery in Egypt in such a miraculous way? Did he not lead you through the desert? Did he not feed you and your children manna for 40 years? How dare you doubt his presence and might? Silence your voices! As long as I live, I will stand up for his glory - as my brother did! Through authority given me by our Lord himself I command you to back off and repent in prayer - RIGHT NOW!!" Did he with his mighty voice! - right? No... he didn't?? But... ehhh... what did he say instead? Aaron answered them, “Take off the gold earrings that your wives, your sons and your daughters are wearing, and bring them to me.” Really? And then? "He TOOK what they handed him and MADE it into an idol cast in the shape of a calf, FASHIONING it with a tool." Yeees... sounds somewhat "passive"... does it? But afterwards he of course realized that the Lord wouldn't appreciate such "passivity" and destroyed the idol or at least hid it to safe his people from sin, which was about to happen... did he? Not?!? Hmmm...let's see.... "... he BUILT an altar in front of the calf and ANNOUNCED, “Tomorrow there will be a festival to the Lord.” But THIS ONE is "passive"... for sure... isn't it? He didn't actually lift a finger. And therefore, rightly so, stayed alive - in the face of a pile of 3,000 corpses that smelled of blood, fearful sweat, urine and feces - all those smells of mortal agony. His brother Moses was of course delusional as he had stated - “What did these people do to you, that YOU LED them into such great sin?” It was just a big, big misunderstanding. Aaron was passive and therefore deserved righteous mercy before the Lord. Moses had had to accept this....this simple-minded fellow. I get it now... somehow... I think... maybe
you are correct that Samaria was the capital of the northern kingdom during Hoshea and it mentions it in 8:5. Agleycha= "Your Calf" as Agel = calf (soft a not long a)..
I'm more bothered by how much of the Bible people skip when they do read it. I watched four dramatizations of the Exodus story (movies and miniseries) for this video, and all of them include the golden calf but pretend the Levite slaughter and the plague never happened.
@@InquisitiveBible that's very true and also typical of Bible classes and sermons regarding the more offensive stories in the Bible. For example Psalms 110 is often quoted as a beautiful hopeful Psalm and as such the final two verses aren't read at church.
I don't know if I'll do a video about it (my to-do list is pretty long), but maybe a blog article. It's an interesting topic I didn't know much about until I read Mettinger's book for this video.
@@wannabe_scholar82 The next one on my list is the history of the Philistines, but I *might* do something first on the dating of Daniel and all the historical references in Daniel's prophecies. I haven't totally made up my mind. I also have the 12 tribes, the Garden of Eden, 1 Enoch, and the Synoptic Problem on my list for 2024.
After watching this video, I now completely understand your statement at the beginning as to the stubbornness of this particular problem. Another banger of a video!
Someone with better Hebrew can correct me, but I think the term used in both passages refers to a young bull, so both 'calf' and 'bull' are technically correct. Pakkala in a footnote says that "calves" is traditional, but "young bulls" would be more accurate.
At one time the calf symboled the spring equinox in Taurus. The word heifer is usually associated with the moon. Aaron (a female name) was also called Cohen Aldebaran.
Great breakdown, honestly ive always seen the connections between the two stories and thought... "Wait a second, why is Israel playing 'The Hits' again." And why didn't anyone say, hmmmm this sounds familiar. Lol Great job.
Lets think about this story. The people of Israel wanted a God they could see that they could worship. The one god that considered them his "most treasured possession" would only show himself to Moses. To top it all off he gets pissed because the people made a golden calf to have a visable god to worship and wants to punish them for it. Seems to me Yaweh wanted a reason to be wrathful. All that time he had Moses on a mount carving out laws, he could have just revealed himself to the Israelites along with Moses while dishing out the laws. I mean hes God right? So he knew what the Iraelites would do before they did it, could have prevented it but chose not to, then decides to punish them. And bible proponents claim to read and understand!😮😢
Golden calf = cash cow , a way that created wealth for a few but disguised as a religious act Like pilgrimage to Mekkah is a cash cow , nowhere in Quran is it an obligation
Hoshea 4:15 is telling the tribe of Judah not to become like the House of Israel (northern kingdom (has become) and Bet Aven means "house of Iniquity" not house of delusion. House of Delusion would be "Bet Ashleyah."
How do people wandering in a desert with minimal possessions manage to MAKE a golden Idol of any kind of any significant size? Where did they get the gold required? How did they melt the gold and create a mold into which to pour the molten gold? What would they have burned to create the heat needed? Even if hollow, lots of gold required, and if hollow then the casting procedure becomes more demanding. What would they have used to create the mold? Sand? That would not work very well. This story is pure fiction.
If you read the part before they leave Egypt after the slaying of the 1st born in Egypt the Israelites went to the people of Egypt and asked for gifts from them and some of them most likely received jewelry so when Aaron asked for jewelry and rings that's why they had enough to melt down and if you read the Bible they were slaves in Egypt which they did manual labor which most likely also included blacksmithing which is how they knew how to smelt the calf everything they knew they learned in Egypt
The problem is, you're speculating. Making stuff up, in other words. You really do not KNOW. You have to invent in order to make the narrative work. I call foul on that. @@DNS-FRANK09
A Jewish Rabbi explained that the magic that was performed by the lesser gods for the pharaoh left Egypt with the higher God, Yahweh. This calf was magically made as they had nothing to make it with.
The text includes Aaron's explanation, that he melted the people's gold rings in a fire and the gold melted into a lump shaped like a calf. It sounds like a flat 2D representation rather than a 3D sculpture.
.. the way i read it, way back in the desert, when Moses was talking to The Dragon,, Aaron asked for their gold rings, ear and finger and nose and toes,, and threw them into the fire,, The molten gold dribbed out in the shape of a calf. .
The mystery of the Golden Calf is this, the lesson is even if an idol absolutely miraculously appears in front of you, and it is completely inexplicable except as a divine act, the people of Israel are to still reject it in favor of the god of Moses and Abraham. However I believe this god ultimately is themselves, the Jewish nation, thus the lesson is ever and always Man over Nature, and only those people and belief systems who at some level possess or embody this continue their existence.
The Hebrew term means a male calf or young bull, but I think in all cases we're supposed to imagine a strong young bull, not a suckling. If you're talking about my graphics, those are not to scale and are meant purely to entertain. :)
Every time I watch one of these I realize how little we actually know about the things a lot of people hold as supremely important. It seems so clear, so straight forward, as a fundamentalist. It’s all a neat tapestry in the image of Jesus. But then you notice one loose thread, and then another one, and then another one. You try to ignore them, but you can’t unnotice what you’ve seen. Eventually you cave in and you pull on one thread, only for the whole understanding of god and the bible you had until then to come undone and be revealed as a whole bunch of loose threads. It’s frightening, really.
NT Wright's Jesus & The Victory of God would give you a more down-to-earth description of the historical Jesus; and Simon Gathercole's book The Pre-existent Son would give you the only accurate description of synoptic christology. Regarding the Old testament, you're right to note that every traditional portrait is wrong. I was shocked to learn from this video that the popular critical view about Jeroboam's reforms was wrong all along!
I see it as complex and in awe that even more then of millenniala of writing of Gods nature & The stories of the Bible is confusing and just deeper then just a cut and slide.
Thank you so much for all your hard work! I’m amazed by those like yourself who can unravel times and places and thought processes of ancient writers to make sense of it all. The simplistic versions taught in Sunday school are not helpful.🤨 I was taught to take everything literally. If only true scholarship of the Bible and NT were required education. Even if it is only on the more familiar bible stories like this one. Makes the telling so much more fascinating as well. Thanks again.
The famous Charging Bull statue was made by Italian sculptor Arturo Di Modica and illegally placed outside the New York Stock Exchange after the 1987 market crash as a publicity stunt. It was probably inspired by the bull and bear statues outside the Frankfurt Stock Exchange, which in turn were inspired by 18th-century London stock-trading lingo that in turn came from the dangerous sports of bear-baiting and bull-baiting. Although people have compared the NYSE statue to the biblical golden calf, there is no direct thematic relationship.
The bull is so sacred in history that you weren't allowed to represent yourself with them in carvings or paintings. (Kings mostly) the horns belongs to the gods , king sargon as he was the tallest and had horns in a carving which is a double no no and learned the hard way as his civilization was wiped out almost with no trace .. Hindu people don't even eat it its so sacred to them in thier beliefs .. in all ,this representation of the bull was spread all over the world from the same source and humans are low level intelligence so.... i deal with subjects like this alone 😢 The bull belongs to king anu and enlil ( annunaki) specifically and can not be shared ❤ learn ancient ranks ( anu# 60, enki#40, enlil # 50 and tittles ( morning star , innana ishtar not lucifer , this is why jesus / yehsua said he was the morning star ) ( elohiem, plural / many) yahweh is a tittle not just a name , thier are varients like the hindu avatars of shiva , vishnu etc. Islam has 99 names of allah which are varients / tittles . Enoch told us he was freaked out how many thier were . The watchers alright 🛸😂😂😂
The calf was built because of the prophecy saying he would be there during the season of "His Reign/Taurus" which happened in 3750 (or 1 AD). YHWH tells us not to worship any image! and that is why he was wroth.
The upright stone, anointed with oil (symbols semen) is the phallus (Hermes pillar). The application of oil (semen) and wine (passion) to this pillar, would not have been carried out by a male. This would only have been done by a female who desired to be impregnated. Remember where Jacob (female) and Esau (male) wrestled in the womb? Jacob held on to the heel (phallus) of Esau. This "birthright" was the phallus (hi daddy Isaac). These two characters are born six months apart, just like Cain and Abel. We should also recall that John the Dipper and Jesus were born six months apart. Aaron is a female word.
the Hoshea translation is a complete mistranslation and it has additions not in the Hebrew text. I think when people search for translations that are totally incorrect to fit their narrative, they endanger their entire point. It is better to just stick with facts. You do have some interesting points tho. but also some that are just way off. I read and write in ancient Hebrew, Aramaic, and Yiddish.
Thanks for the comment, and I always appreciate clarification on the Hebrew. For that part of the video, I'm mainly relying on the work of S. David Sperling, who is a Jewish rabbi and accomplished Bible scholar, so I assume he understands the range of potential meanings. I think others translate it more generically as "evil" or "wickedness", but the overall argument is not affected. Awen/aven also appears as a synonym for Bethel in Amos 5:5, which I notice Alexander Rofé (Hebrew University of Jerusalem) translates as "delusion" in a 2003 paper I have in front of me. I also understand that more generally, parts of Hosea are very difficult to interpret, so there will always be a range of views on what point the author is trying to make.
The golden lamb (sun at the spring equinox in Ares) who becomes the golden ram at the summer solstice. This is the golden ram that sets headfirst and is caught in the thorn bush (Acadia tree) aka winter and is slain by Abraham. Abraham then burns this poor beast on the Altar aka the constellation Ara. This happens ever year.. Gold = Sun and solar myth. Silver = Moon and lunar myth.
@@harveywabbit9541 You're the one who believes in the made-up story you just told, even though there is no mention of gold or silver in the actual text
The death of Moses (winter solstice in Aquarius) denotes the precession of the equinoxes from Taurus (mooooo) to the age of Aries (baaaaaa). The winter solstice in Aquarius becomes the winter solstice in Capricorn. The death of Aaron denotes the end of the summer solstice in Leo and movement to Cancer. Cancer is where we find the two asses (stars) that Jesus aka Bacchus rides on into Jerusalem.
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Easily my new favorite RUclips channel. Stellar work!
The absolute refusal of monotheism to understand polytheist cult images (all while having their own sacred inanimate objects), never ceases to astonish and amaze me.
Will you be making a video on your article "The Structure of Heaven and Earth: How Ancient Cosmology Shaped Everyone's Theology"? I think that would be a popular video.🙂
Definitely! The visuals will be a lot of work though. :)
Ironic. Through the course of this video, and infused I suppose, by the advent of the rest of them and the culmination of my years, I thought about messaging you, InquBblRedr, and inquiring if you might have your own sort of Biblical Narrative or overall take? The title of your work seems like what I am after perhaps. I'm taking a lot in but feel that I could use something like a cohesive and clarifying something or other lol... really really enjoy your stuff, and found it quite hospitable the single small fee option available to become patron... 🙏🏻🌎❤️
I really appreciate you joining the channel, by the way! I'm still exploring all these topics myself. I am slowly working toward the overall picture of how and why the Bible was written. That will probably become a video once I have a firmer opinion of how and why the final Pentateuch was composed. Separately, I'm working on a "complete history of Israel" project. I have a big timeline with about forty references so far and I'm just getting started.
I get that my videos so far are a bit scattershot, but I hope that they each give a sense of how complicated the Bible is and how much we still don't know.
This video sums up why I love the Bible! So many elements to pick apart and try to unravel. It's really a big riddle asking us for it to be solved. I'm so glad people like you exist Paul!
Well you pick them apart and unravel them in literally the worst kind of ways where you sit there and bash God so😅 keep loving the Bibbleee?🤷 should be ashamed of yourself, saying God’s sacrifice children to fire you that is so false and wicked and you chose the translation that makes it sound like it. Yeah you really love the Bible buddy.
Why are you acting like you care about the Bible again? You sit there and bash God all day and you’re trying to convince us you like the Bible? I think you think you can pick a part and unravel the Bible but you mean it in a different kind of way where you cherry pick certain things to make it sound like you know what you’re talking about when you have no idea in part because your blinded by hate and you didn’t look at any other sources because you took no other looks at any other stances on anything else. You’re doing the work in a great way my man keep loving the Bible.😂🤘God burnt kids🙄okeyyyyyy
Golden Quadriceps
Says calf 100 times. Shows bull 100 times.
Look at the red bull calves being sent to Israel right now. By some rules they can't have been worked. Some prophecy they think they need to do.
There's a prophecy of Red Bull calves that are being sent to Israel from Tennessee. They want to slaughter unyoked red bull calves to usher in the Messiah.
It's blasphemy to me.
From Old Testament. Golden calf thought to represent Egyptian bull god Apis in earlier period and of Canaanite fertility god Baal in the latter. Google is great incl images. ; )
The Calf terminology is (probably) a disparaging way of polemicizing against bull worship.
Holy cow! There is much to ponder here.
Holy cow indeed! :D
It is fitting that all the images in this video look like they came straight out of a comic book
Most comic book characters have better morals than Abraham and Moses.
Sureeeeeeeeeee you been looking at any comic books lately 😅
This hate for God will get you in trouble and bet you won’t be yo worried about Hods job when you me begging him for help😂I wish I loved something as much as you fools hate God nahhhh
For a God you people hate you never let Him leave you mind or watch brain dead videos that take the same view everytime “Hod bad me better nowhere Satan” ogha ogha
"Mr. Moses...suddenly I'd like to leave your desert!"
Prof. John Day's book you mentioned (Yahweh and the gods and goddesses of ancient Canaan) is a great read even for someone not terribly familiar with the subject. John Day is also a kind individual--he'll respond to questions by email and even be polite when you're wrong about something :)
I can confirm that Professor Day is a wonderful gentleman who answers emails from amateurs like me. :)
That dancing at the end reminds me of Elaine from Seinfeld.
Good stuff
Thanks!
One often repeated claim, rarely contested, is that the golden calf (in Exodus) was intended to replace YHWH. In fact, the intent of making it was to replace Moses. This is clear in the text, people just don't like to read.
I think the video has refuted that. It was to replace Moses yes-but error was merely a description of Bethel's golden calves
The calf was an idol representing Yahweh, the son of Canaanite god El, the bull.
The story is part of the evolution of the religions of the Israelites, from the polytheistic Canaanite religion and Yahwism into the henotheistic Judaism.
And how could the Israelites have known that Yahweh just made up the commandment that forbid graven images/idols?
Indeed. And how are the golden cherubim that create a sacred space for YHWH to dwell in the tabernacle/temple not graven images?
Paul, I've got to hand it to you this is an excellent video. I knew there was some connection between the two stories and the political undercurrent between Judah and Israel, but what you presented here is fairly compelling.
It also proposes an intriguing possibility as to why the Quran does not have Aaron perpetrating the act of constructing the golden calf, since there are biblical versions of the story which do not mention his role in the episode. This is highly theoretical, but it is something I'm wondering about.
Very interesting! I don't know enough about the Quran to speculate.
@@InquisitiveBible I'm sure that there is more to it than simply the alternate versions of the calf story, but in one of the two tellings of the story in the Quran, the builder of the calf is an individual called as-Samiri which probably means the watchman (etymologically related to the word Samaritan, hmmm...), whereas in a different version it is never said who built the calf only that it may have been Aaron so the evidence is kind of murky.
Further there are some scholars who argue that the figure of as-Samiri is in fact Aaron which is not without its share of problems. Michael Pregill has an excellent book on the subject of the reception history of the golden calf story from its prehistory to the emergence of the Quran, the Golden Calf between Bible and Quran. He does explore and argues that the figure of as-Samiri is Aaron and he provides a helpful tour of Jewish and Christian interpretations in the centuries leading up to the Quran. It's a fascinating read.
I have not come across that book, so thanks for letting me know!
What an incredible and informative video! You’ve put together tons of layers of scholarship on this topic that I had no idea about before!
The true riddle of the Golden Calf story is....
In Exodus 32:21 it says - "And Moses said to Aaron, What did the people do to you that YOU LET THIS GREAT SIN come on them?"....sooo....Aaron committed the sin.... and managed to survive following massacre by the Levites..... HOW? 😳 WHY?? 🤔
Yep, that is one of its many puzzles with no consensus solution.
Aaron was too much of a main character to be killed off! Plus the text explicitly reduces Aaron's agency in the error
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@"... reduces explicitly agency in the error..."
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@@CheburashkaGenovna the text very clearly has Aaron claim to be in very passive cooperation with what "the people" initiated & demanded of him. Hence it was "the people" who get slain by the Levites and not any members of Aaron's household
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Passive...very passive...
Please, help me to understand...
"When the people saw that Moses was so long in coming down from the mountain, they gathered around Aaron and said, “Come, make us gods who will go before us. As for this fellow Moses who brought us up out of Egypt, we don’t know what has happened to him.” - Right?
Aaron answered them, "Oh, you of little faith! Have you forgotten that the Lord, the creator heaven and earth, brought you out of slavery in Egypt in such a miraculous way? Did he not lead you through the desert? Did he not feed you and your children manna for 40 years? How dare you doubt his presence and might? Silence your voices! As long as I live, I will stand up for his glory - as my brother did! Through authority given me by our Lord himself I command you to back off and repent in prayer - RIGHT NOW!!"
Did he with his mighty voice! - right? No... he didn't?? But... ehhh... what did he say instead?
Aaron answered them, “Take off the gold earrings that your wives, your sons and your daughters are wearing, and bring them to me.”
Really? And then?
"He TOOK what they handed him and MADE it into an idol cast in the shape of a calf, FASHIONING it with a tool."
Yeees... sounds somewhat "passive"... does it?
But afterwards he of course realized that the Lord wouldn't appreciate such "passivity" and destroyed the idol or at least hid it to safe his people from sin, which was about to happen... did he?
Not?!? Hmmm...let's see....
"... he BUILT an altar in front of the calf and ANNOUNCED, “Tomorrow there will be a festival to the Lord.”
But THIS ONE is "passive"... for sure... isn't it?
He didn't actually lift a finger. And therefore, rightly so, stayed alive - in the face of a pile of 3,000 corpses that smelled of blood, fearful sweat, urine and feces - all those smells of mortal agony.
His brother Moses was of course delusional as he had stated - “What did these people do to you, that YOU LED them into such great sin?”
It was just a big, big misunderstanding. Aaron was passive and therefore deserved righteous mercy before the Lord. Moses had had to accept this....this simple-minded fellow.
I get it now... somehow... I think... maybe
Finally a new, well researched video. I hope you upload more often. Cheers to more OT related topics
This was extremely fascinating. Thanks for making this!
you are correct that Samaria was the capital of the northern kingdom during Hoshea and it mentions it in 8:5. Agleycha= "Your Calf" as Agel = calf (soft a not long a)..
Ashera is also associated as the mother of cattle. 6:56
Kinda gives new light to kosher law too
Asher is the happy phallus. Guess what you get when you add the female determinant ah????
Beautiful. Excellent. But you would be amazed (or perhaps not) at how many Christians never read the Bible.
I'm more bothered by how much of the Bible people skip when they do read it. I watched four dramatizations of the Exodus story (movies and miniseries) for this video, and all of them include the golden calf but pretend the Levite slaughter and the plague never happened.
@@InquisitiveBible that's very true and also typical of Bible classes and sermons regarding the more offensive stories in the Bible. For example Psalms 110 is often quoted as a beautiful hopeful Psalm and as such the final two verses aren't read at church.
I was following everything until about the 10 min mark, this is gonna be one of those videos ill have to rewatch a few times 😅
Thanks!
Wow, thanks for the support!
I almost thought I'll never see an upload this year
Yeah, this one took a lot longer than intended!
Could you do a survey of Jewish aniconism?
I don't know if I'll do a video about it (my to-do list is pretty long), but maybe a blog article. It's an interesting topic I didn't know much about until I read Mettinger's book for this video.
@@InquisitiveBible What's next on your to-do list?
@@wannabe_scholar82 The next one on my list is the history of the Philistines, but I *might* do something first on the dating of Daniel and all the historical references in Daniel's prophecies. I haven't totally made up my mind. I also have the 12 tribes, the Garden of Eden, 1 Enoch, and the Synoptic Problem on my list for 2024.
Captain Haddock, you did great with this.
Arronice !
I really enjoyed this production and presentation. Keep up the good work.
This is a fascinating story and I'm glad you did a video on it.
There were no Jews or Christians in the time of Moses .....Only pagans,gentiles
After watching this video, I now completely understand your statement at the beginning as to the stubbornness of this particular problem.
Another banger of a video!
Interesting..
Why does the bible use the word "calf" when all the illustrations show bulls? Is it just a quirk of old english?
Someone with better Hebrew can correct me, but I think the term used in both passages refers to a young bull, so both 'calf' and 'bull' are technically correct. Pakkala in a footnote says that "calves" is traditional, but "young bulls" would be more accurate.
At one time the calf symboled the spring equinox in Taurus. The word heifer is usually associated with the moon.
Aaron (a female name) was also called Cohen Aldebaran.
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Nun, the fish, fathered Joshua aka Jesus. This "fish" was called Dagon which is two words of dag (fish) and on (sun).
Great breakdown, honestly ive always seen the connections between the two stories and thought... "Wait a second, why is Israel playing 'The Hits' again." And why didn't anyone say, hmmmm this sounds familiar. Lol
Great job.
This is a story taught by Hebrews and Muslims there were no Christians or Jews in the time of Moses......period
Before Yahweh was the god of the Israelites, he was the god of metallurgy. That’s why they made a golden calf.
I'm assuming you got that idea from Nissim Amzallag's paper?
Hebrews and Muslims understand this story ...Gentiles do not
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Fantastic and informative work once again!
Lets think about this story. The people of Israel wanted a God they could see that they could worship. The one god that considered them his "most treasured possession" would only show himself to Moses. To top it all off he gets pissed because the people made a golden calf to have a visable god to worship and wants to punish them for it. Seems to me Yaweh wanted a reason to be wrathful. All that time he had Moses on a mount carving out laws, he could have just revealed himself to the Israelites along with Moses while dishing out the laws. I mean hes God right? So he knew what the Iraelites would do before they did it, could have prevented it but chose not to, then decides to punish them. And bible proponents claim to read and understand!😮😢
Golden calf = cash cow , a way that created wealth for a few but disguised as a religious act
Like pilgrimage to Mekkah is a cash cow , nowhere in Quran is it an obligation
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Hoshea 4:15 is telling the tribe of Judah not to become like the House of Israel (northern kingdom (has become) and Bet Aven means "house of Iniquity" not house of delusion. House of Delusion would be "Bet Ashleyah."
How do people wandering in a desert with minimal possessions manage to MAKE a golden Idol of any kind of any significant size? Where did they get the gold required? How did they melt the gold and create a mold into which to pour the molten gold? What would they have burned to create the heat needed? Even if hollow, lots of gold required, and if hollow then the casting procedure becomes more demanding. What would they have used to create the mold? Sand? That would not work very well. This story is pure fiction.
And they still have enough left over to make the Tabernacle and gold-encrusted Ark of the Covenant. :)
If you read the part before they leave Egypt after the slaying of the 1st born in Egypt the Israelites went to the people of Egypt and asked for gifts from them and some of them most likely received jewelry so when Aaron asked for jewelry and rings that's why they had enough to melt down and if you read the Bible they were slaves in Egypt which they did manual labor which most likely also included blacksmithing which is how they knew how to smelt the calf everything they knew they learned in Egypt
The problem is, you're speculating. Making stuff up, in other words. You really do not KNOW. You have to invent in order to make the narrative work. I call foul on that. @@DNS-FRANK09
A Jewish Rabbi explained that the magic that was performed by the lesser gods for the pharaoh left Egypt with the higher God, Yahweh. This calf was magically made as they had nothing to make it with.
The text includes Aaron's explanation, that he melted the people's gold rings in a fire and the gold melted into a lump shaped like a calf. It sounds like a flat 2D representation rather than a 3D sculpture.
.. the way i read it, way back in the desert, when Moses was talking to The Dragon,, Aaron asked for their gold rings, ear and finger and nose and toes,, and threw them into the fire,,
The molten gold dribbed out in the shape of a calf.
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The mystery of the Golden Calf is this, the lesson is even if an idol absolutely miraculously appears in front of you, and it is completely inexplicable except as a divine act, the people of Israel are to still reject it in favor of the god of Moses and Abraham. However I believe this god ultimately is themselves, the Jewish nation, thus the lesson is ever and always Man over Nature, and only those people and belief systems who at some level possess or embody this continue their existence.
That was the purpose of the final texts i agree
This is freaking awesome 👌 ❤
Thanks for bringing me to it 😇
If it's a calf... why is it a swole ass grown bull? Just a minor curiosity. Is this a language difference?
The Hebrew term means a male calf or young bull, but I think in all cases we're supposed to imagine a strong young bull, not a suckling.
If you're talking about my graphics, those are not to scale and are meant purely to entertain. :)
El is the Bull of Heaven
Every time I watch one of these I realize how little we actually know about the things a lot of people hold as supremely important.
It seems so clear, so straight forward, as a fundamentalist. It’s all a neat tapestry in the image of Jesus. But then you notice one loose thread, and then another one, and then another one. You try to ignore them, but you can’t unnotice what you’ve seen. Eventually you cave in and you pull on one thread, only for the whole understanding of god and the bible you had until then to come undone and be revealed as a whole bunch of loose threads. It’s frightening, really.
NT Wright's Jesus & The Victory of God would give you a more down-to-earth description of the historical Jesus; and Simon Gathercole's book The Pre-existent Son would give you the only accurate description of synoptic christology.
Regarding the Old testament, you're right to note that every traditional portrait is wrong. I was shocked to learn from this video that the popular critical view about Jeroboam's reforms was wrong all along!
I see it as complex and in awe that even more then of millenniala of writing of Gods nature & The stories of the Bible is confusing and just deeper then just a cut and slide.
Thank you so much for all your hard work!
I’m amazed by those like yourself who can unravel times and places and thought processes of ancient writers to make sense of it all. The simplistic versions taught in Sunday school are not helpful.🤨
I was taught to take everything literally.
If only true scholarship of the Bible and NT were required education. Even if it is only on the more familiar bible stories like this one. Makes the telling so much more fascinating as well.
Thanks again.
Sorry my english is bad but if i understand well the two calves was originally not a problem at all in this story in the origin ?
That’s right. It seems that the original story was concerned about a rival temple and priests in Bethel, and not so much about the calf/bull idols.
The calf is at the NYSE, and the 10 commands is the twin towers.
The famous Charging Bull statue was made by Italian sculptor Arturo Di Modica and illegally placed outside the New York Stock Exchange after the 1987 market crash as a publicity stunt. It was probably inspired by the bull and bear statues outside the Frankfurt Stock Exchange, which in turn were inspired by 18th-century London stock-trading lingo that in turn came from the dangerous sports of bear-baiting and bull-baiting. Although people have compared the NYSE statue to the biblical golden calf, there is no direct thematic relationship.
The bull is so sacred in history that you weren't allowed to represent yourself with them in carvings or paintings. (Kings mostly) the horns belongs to the gods , king sargon as he was the tallest and had horns in a carving which is a double no no and learned the hard way as his civilization was wiped out almost with no trace .. Hindu people don't even eat it its so sacred to them in thier beliefs .. in all ,this representation of the bull was spread all over the world from the same source and humans are low level intelligence so.... i deal with subjects like this alone 😢
The bull belongs to king anu and enlil ( annunaki) specifically and can not be shared ❤ learn ancient ranks ( anu# 60, enki#40, enlil # 50 and tittles ( morning star , innana ishtar not lucifer , this is why jesus / yehsua said he was the morning star ) ( elohiem, plural / many) yahweh is a tittle not just a name , thier are varients like the hindu avatars of shiva , vishnu etc. Islam has 99 names of allah which are varients / tittles . Enoch told us he was freaked out how many thier were . The watchers alright 🛸😂😂😂
The calf was built because of the prophecy saying he would be there during the season of "His Reign/Taurus" which happened in 3750 (or 1 AD). YHWH tells us not to worship any image! and that is why he was wroth.
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You might as well debate Star Wars trivia, since the Golden Calf, Moses, and the entire book of Exodus are completely fictional! 😂
The upright stone, anointed with oil (symbols semen) is the phallus (Hermes pillar). The application of oil (semen) and wine (passion) to this pillar, would not have been carried out by a male. This would only have been done by a female who desired to be impregnated. Remember where Jacob (female) and Esau (male) wrestled in the womb? Jacob held on to the heel (phallus) of Esau. This "birthright" was the phallus (hi daddy Isaac).
These two characters are born six months apart, just like Cain and Abel. We should also recall that John the Dipper and Jesus were born six months apart. Aaron is a female word.
"Heel"indicating phallus, never heard that before
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Recommend Sex in Religion by James B. Hannay.
The name "Jacob" means "Heeler", one who trips people by their heel. I don't think they usually tripped people by the penis.
What in the erotic fanfiction is that? Is that held by any scholarship?
I knew this!
the Hoshea translation is a complete mistranslation and it has additions not in the Hebrew text. I think when people search for translations that are totally incorrect to fit their narrative, they endanger their entire point. It is better to just stick with facts. You do have some interesting points tho. but also some that are just way off. I read and write in ancient Hebrew, Aramaic, and Yiddish.
Thanks for the comment, and I always appreciate clarification on the Hebrew. For that part of the video, I'm mainly relying on the work of S. David Sperling, who is a Jewish rabbi and accomplished Bible scholar, so I assume he understands the range of potential meanings. I think others translate it more generically as "evil" or "wickedness", but the overall argument is not affected. Awen/aven also appears as a synonym for Bethel in Amos 5:5, which I notice Alexander Rofé (Hebrew University of Jerusalem) translates as "delusion" in a 2003 paper I have in front of me.
I also understand that more generally, parts of Hosea are very difficult to interpret, so there will always be a range of views on what point the author is trying to make.
The golden lamb (sun at the spring equinox in Ares) who becomes the golden ram at the summer solstice. This is the golden ram that sets headfirst and is caught in the thorn bush (Acadia tree) aka winter and is slain by Abraham. Abraham then burns this poor beast on the Altar aka the constellation Ara. This happens ever year.. Gold = Sun and solar myth. Silver = Moon and lunar myth.
Why would anyone make a myth to conceal the fact that winter and summer happen every year?
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The insanity of religion knows no bounds.
@@harveywabbit9541 You're the one who believes in the made-up story you just told, even though there is no mention of gold or silver in the actual text
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Who took Gold (sun - solar myth), Silver (moon - lunar myth), and clothes (stars - stellar myth) out of Egypt?
@@harveywabbit9541 The insanity knows no bounds when you think wearing clothes means something about stars
The death of Moses (winter solstice in Aquarius) denotes the precession of the equinoxes from Taurus (mooooo) to the age of Aries (baaaaaa). The winter solstice in Aquarius becomes the winter solstice in Capricorn. The death of Aaron denotes the end of the summer solstice in Leo and movement to Cancer. Cancer is where we find the two asses (stars) that Jesus aka Bacchus rides on into Jerusalem.
I'll worship and serve the devil against Yahweh and El to make this world a better place!
Its not Yahweh, its Yehovah. Dr. Nehemiah Gordon ✡