@@FortefyreStill better than my awful/painful GTA PS2 experience (Especially GTA III) where i had endless amount of problems such as NPC's only listening whenever they feel like it, Dying sooooo many times just to see the lovely "Wasted!" on my screen, Failing a mission in such a bullshit and very unfair way, Cars getting flipped over, A cheat doesn't work at random for no reason even when i typed it right to a goddamn fucking T, Gangs shoot you for no reason, Mods don't work and either nothing happens or the game crashes. Oh i could go on and write a book about on how these games caused me severe anger issues as a teenager at 13-15.
They didn't want kids to be able to rent Lion King in one weekend and beat the game. They made it extremely hard in the hopes more people would buy Lion King.
Have you tried different combos for starters? In my playthrough I think I played Lejes with Valsu. With him being a mage, when he betrayed me it wasn't as bad, or maybe I'm thinking of another character. Strategy wiki is VERY helpful for figuring out what characters will be aggressive towards you.
11:05 Same here. I only want to worry about enemies/bosses and bullets, not getting hit by an obstacle, ceiling or wall. Thankfully, some horizontal shooters like Cotton or Deathsmiles won’t have you dying when you touch the ground. Drainus has the stealth guard feature which I ALWAYS leave on because I dislike dying by touching the ground, wall or ceiling. And many bullet hell horizontal shooters have ground that is either nonexistent or doesn’t hurt you at all and I very much prefer that.
Demon Crest was/is a great game. I cant beat the last special boss but damn it was a blast to play. The 7th Saga, however, is my favorite game on the SNES I have never beat.
Legend of Galahad for the Mega Drive had the same issue as Zombie Ate My Neighbours as far as passwords went; for some reason you also only got a password at the end of levels 7 and 14 out of a total of 21 (I don't know if Leander, as the Amiga version was called, had the same issue but trying to start level 8 with only the initial sword was really painful due to how little damage it did to the dragon enemies which insta-kill you if their head touches touches you).
12:10 Bro I owned Barts Nightmare as a kid and could never make it past the orange door. Eventually like 14 years later I finally beat it, but it was still a struggle.
@Fortefyre The worst thing about it is to get an A+ you have to grind points in one of the itchy and scratchy stages. I remember getting all the way to the last stage and dying I was so mad.😭😭😭
I'm replaying 7th Saga right now with Esuna and Lux. I always forget about not getting the Remote and having to sail from Bonro instead. Great JRPG! Good stuff, Forte!
I know they released Rondo of Blood on the Wiiware so I still have a virtual copy of it. It's definitely a more polished game than Dracula X but both are fun
What stands out for me with Actraiser 2 was actually the soundtrack and setting, both of which I found stellar. It’s a letdown from the first as the simulation is what sets it apart from just another platformer but I I still think it works as a standalone it would just be viewed more kindly if the original didn’t exist
10) Zombies Ate My Neighbors - I love playing this game...but I hate trying to beat this game. So, I just play until I've gotten my fill and call it a day. The password system is such a big problem. 9) Battlemaniacs - This game is fun and charming...right up until the moment that it reminds you, "This is a Battletoads game, buddy. Good luck." HM1) Demon's Crest - Just beating the game (getting to an ending) isn't that tough at all. But trying to fully complete the game is quite a bit harder. Fantastic game, though! 8) Contra III - 90% of the difficulty here lies with the final boss. With some practice, the earlier stages can become pretty easy but that finale...holy smokes, what a pain! 7) Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts - This game is so charming...but WAY too difficult. I can beat Ghouls 'n Ghosts on Genesis but this game is just too much. HM2) The 7th Saga - I've avoided this game for decades because of how difficult I've heard it is. 6) The Lion King - This game's difficulty is the "die and retry" variety and there are really only a few spots that are the offenders. Once you get past them, it's really not all that tough to beat. 5) Actraiser 2 - I've not attempted this game, mostly out of disappointment against the original but it's reputation as tough-as-nails does stand out. 4) Hagane - I've attempted this once or twice. I never last very long. I've heard this called the hardest game on the SNES and I believe it. HM3) U.N. Squadron - It's been 32 years and I've still never beaten the final stage of this game. Love it to death...but the final stretch is tough. 3) Super ESB - The entire Super Star Wars trilogy is fairly tough but plenty beatable. Super ESB is no doubt the hardest, simply because it's the longest and has the most grueling stages. 2) Bart's Nightmare - This game is a mish-mash. Some stages are stupid easy and some feel almost impossible. I have a soft spot for it but it can be a *rough* playthrough. 1) Dracula X - I've yet to make a serious attempt to beat this one but I understand that many parts, including the final boss, are just the worst kind of hard.
@@Fortefyre My pleasure! I really enjoyed the video and wanted to lend my thoughts. Many of these are games I grew up with and have become dear to me. The Super Star Wars trilogy, for example, is a series of games that I bought as they released and spent many, many hours pouring into them. I've gotten quite adept at them to the point that I sometimes forget how challenging they can be in the beginning. But that's part of the fun of the journey through any difficult game; watching yourself grow and learn and how your feelings change.
The Super Star Wars games are awesome and I've beaten all three of them. Lots of gameplay variety, multiple playable characters, and they captured the feel of the movies well. They're hard, yes, but hard in a get-good way. Also, the lightsaber totally isn't weak when you use the spinning lightsaber move, which lets you do an ongoing somersault while swinging your blade of death through enemies. Also, Super Ghouls and Ghost is much, much easier if you play it on Nintendo Switch Online with the rewind feature. Some may call that blasphemy, but it lets you breeze through the game's two playthroughs - sure, it's still hard, but it's manageable since you don't have to start levels over when you die.
I will definitely agree that Castlevania X is STILL hard... I only finished it when I was in my late 20s...While other's consider it as a butchered version of the PCEngine original game, i still had fun as I thought of it as a what if of sorts... Will surely try Hagane and the & 7th Saga games as I have never played or known of them before...
Hagane is beyond fun, like I was shocked. There aren't many games that are so well made that it MAKES you want to keep playing them even when you're losing consistently, it's a real accomplishment in development tbh. 7th Saga, if you do play it, and you like it, is part of a bigger psuedo-franchise with a kinda sequel Mystic Ark, and Brain Lord but none of them correlate. It's worth checking them out!
@@Fortefyre pretty cool I was in from 1998-2002 security forces then I worked as a government contractor for 15 years at the red flag building on base.
Heres a funny one about USA 7th Saga that will actually blow your mind. I blasted so many hours on that game even before I found this one out: The easist solo character challenge is the Demon. His Sword strength and maxed out Speed at earliest level possible makes him the actual easiest character even above that cheatstick named Valsu or Esuna even. Esuna can get ganked anytime she fights a magic resistant enemy and Valsu can be ran over if he cannot deal enough damage. Lejes suffers from none of those problems.
@@Fortefyre I fell into the category of solo challenge game running 7thSaga about 10 years ago and yeah. Demon was not just the solo champ, he was also the fastest for completion too. His main thing was just getting him to the level that he maxed out his speed stat. AS for his classic class, hes basically a FF1 Red Mage with only Black Magic instead. The stupid thing with him is that at the map area right before the final dungeon you can use his mass insta-kill spell on the most common enemies there and just power level like crazy if you need to by that point. He gets that VACUUM2 spell way earlier than Esuna does too. Its only problem is the high cost and finding the enemies that have a low magic stat( magic doubles as the magic defense stat too) so that it lands often.
Beat Battletoads: Battlemaniacs fairly recently. Have a Retron5 with GameGenie Cheats in order to beat it. Infinite Lives, Infinite Energy, and Moon-Jump (for the very end of the Hover bike level only). It took me 2 hours to learn patterns for whole Hover bike level, 2 hours for last 3 parts of the Snake level, 4 tries (2hours 1st time, 2 hours 2nd time, 3 hours 3rd time, & 90 minutes for last time) and 90 minutes for tower part. Was able to SAVE spots I was in because of 5-Gigabyte card space in back of Retron5.
There exists a bootleg lion king game for SNES where everytime you die, Simba (or Timon or Pumba) commits suicide on the continue screen. Simba hangs himself, Timon buries himself alive and Pumba jumps in a pot of soup.
Contra 3:the Alien Wars,Mega Man X3,Super Ghouls and Ghosts,R-Type 3 are all frustrating. I actually didn't find Castlevania Dracula X that difficult,compared to the PSP remake that was maddingly tough! My biggest gripe on the SNES one was you couldn't play as Maria Renard as in the other versions.
The 7th Saga is the hardest game I've ever played that doesn't involve using your reflexes. You cna't just grind your way to a win because the other characters level up WITH you. There are parts of the game that if you level up too much, the character you have to fight will murder you harder than if you hadn't grinded at all. I'm pretty sure that you can get legitimately stuck if you grind too much. The Lion King is a breeze, though. It blows me away how many people consider it hard. I got that game when I was in middle school and I never found it to be all that difficult.
Right? It's ONE pattern to learn in Lion King. Sure it's tough initially, but once you have the pattern it's kind of cake. But that pattern is still gnarly.
Hey, so I've recently start watched your videos, but I have one question. Some games start with 'HM:', what does that stand for? BTW, Zombies At My Neighbors was difficult, however very fun!
I’ve probably mentioned this before about Zombies Ate My Neighbors, but it needed longer passwords so you could keep your items. Super Empire Strikes Back is an exercise in frustration because the ice physics on Hoth are with you throughout the entire game! Did Cloud City use too much wax on their floors, or what!? And the tragedy of Dracula X…. All of the level content could’ve made it from the Rondo Of Blood. I’m not expecting the cinemas, the red book audio, and voice acting. But everything else could’ve made it into Dracula X. 😞
It's like crisco on your feet! I agree entirely with what you're saying about Dracula X, because the fancy bells and whistles, could have been pushed to the wayside for a SOLID port.
personally i found battletoads in battlemaniac hardest of those on the list. you have extremely limited lives and once you get to the turbotunnel the difficulty just keeps on spiking. hagane was pretty easy for me since you have alot of continues and enemies often drops extra lives. Dracula x was also easy for me except for the final boss.
Great list! Yeah, Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts is really rough. I've only managed to get the true ending once years ago and I probably don't have the patience to ever do it again! 😅 For me, I'd also give honorable mention to Super R-Type/R-Type III and Pugsley's Scavenger Hunt. I'm curious to see a Top 10 hardest Sega Genesis games if it hasn't already been done.
The first Super Star Wars game kicked my butt so hard that my teeth were sore. I never got past the first stage, though I gave up on it pretty quickly. I'll admit that I've always stunk at run and gun platformers, but when I rented this one it took away my desire to play anything in the series.
Really good list! I've only been able to beat Contra III and Demon's Crest out of this list. Made it to the end of UN Squadron and Dracula X and gave up because of my sanity. Act Raiser 2 is my vote for hardest I've played. It has such unforgiving game-play and a steep learning curve for the controls. Back in the day Game Genie codes weren't even a help and I've yet to beat one boss on it.
I think the most "fuck you" think ActRaiser 2 did to me, was letting you suffer through easy mode before telling you before the final area to "play on a harder difficulty" lmao
I agree. All of the games on this list are difficult. I don't know if it is a good thing or a bad thing that I have beaten nearly all of them. The ones I have not beaten are the star wars games and 7th saga. All of the others I have beaten.
Man no one talks about UN Squadron. I love that game. It has some really outstanding music. Took me a long time to beat it, but once you get the strategy down of holding the initial plane until you can afford the ultimate its not too crazy.
One game you probably never played but is without a doubt one of the hardest SNES games is Faceball 2000. 41 levels, no passwords, and the last levels are extremely difficult.
If you give it time, Castlevania Dracula X is beatable. I got the best ending last October with the re-release of the Advance Collection (without save states or rewinds). It’s very much grounded in the NES mechanics, which I’m ok with since those were my first experiences with CV. I’m not sure that Actraiser 2 is possible to beat though. I tried so damn hard a couple years back. A2 is gorgeous to look at, but a chore to play.
@@Fortefyre I was six years old when I was blessed as one of the first NES owners in my small town back in 85. …my kidneys hurt just writing that down. 😂
Bro I clicked and my head thought Battletoads! 😂 I was right! I have nostalgia for the SNES one (couldn't beat it even with cheats when I was younger) but nowadays I'd rather trust eating gas station sushi than my abilities to beat it as an adult.
I almost beat the Zombies at my Neighbors. I think I got to the last level, but ran out of the certain item to complete it and gave up. Also, I have noticed with the game is if a neighbor dies, you have that many less for the rest of the game.
In The 7th Saga, I always liked Lux. Except for the clanking when he walks. Also, I got Valsu to join me as Lejes, which the manual said would never happen.
Oh yeah, Castlevania Dracula X is tough to beat, I barely got passed the second stage, and I have yet to see the third boss, I got lucky when I found the copy I have of this game, it was expensive but I had enough money to buy it available, it's as they say, and I already beat Super Castlevania IV for the SNES and Castlevania III Dracula's Curse for the NES, but Dracula's X is a different animal, a lot harder... I'm just not sure at the monsters or the pitfalls, or the floor collapsing right of your feets, but the challenge in that game is pretty much expert, well worth it even if... Also, it,s a perfect game of choice when it's Halloween... That game is a monster....
I'm gonna log my opinion on your opinions as I watch: Agree: 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 3, 2, 1 Disagree: Never played: 5, 4 Looks like I don't have much to complain about with this video
The first version of Final Fantasy 4 in Japan is notably less forgiving than what we got in the US. The only version even more difficult is the DS remake; with the original difficulty labeled as hard mode on mobile and PC. Final Fantasy 4 Easy Type in Japan however is the easiest one ever. Dishonorable mention to Mega Man X3. While the bosses are easier than ever to exploit with the AI behavior (aside from Kaiser Sigma), the generic enemies hit far harder than before or since. Also, the Giga Crush was replaced with a barrier ability that didn't really work out. Also the fully charged buster upgrade is not as useful as the one with Mega Man X2 due to the one in X3 firing more like a wall of projectiles.
Wizardry 5 was a pain for me. I had a book of notes of how to pass certain areas, hand drawn maps with traps and secrets. I had even managed to find my way to the Hell level and fought the games optional boss. Never made it to the Sorn until i was playing an emulator in Iraq because my dad tossed all my stuff because "Witchcraft". Just out of the shear size and the lack of knowing what to do without a guide makes the game hard. It has like 30 or so required items and the hints are absolutely asinine.
@@Fortefyre I am currently playing through the rerelease of it on PS5. Seems like the same game with some quality of life upgrades. I'm around the halfway point grind down to the bottom, which is the biggest downside. There is literally nothing for like 5 floors. Just grind to level up.
@Fortefyre same. I enjoy channels like yours since I grew up on NES and SNES. Gives me games to add to my current rotation. I'm slowly knocking out my modern games back log, but my retro is Wizardry and Dragon Quest 1-5. Trying to knock all of those out before the DQ3 release this year.
Hagane should have been higher on the list. I have beaten it but SON OF A BITCH! It's one of those games that if you finally beat it, you're never going to want to go through that ever again. When you beat a video game you should feel a sense of accomplishment, with Hagane, it's a relief, and a game should not be so hard it's a relief as opposed to an accomplishment. I also own a repro of Hagane, as well as a repro box, and a repro owner's manual. You also need to try Nightmare Busters, it's not as bad as Hagane, but it's no cakewalk either. I have a repro of Nightmare Busters as well.
@@Fortefyre I wouldn't say I "mastered" it. I used it a few times and didn't see the need to use it. I didn't use most of his special moves because I couldn't remember all the button presses in the heat of combat. That's also one of the reasons I don't like 2D fighters. LOL.
Git gud lol kidding. Of the games on this list I agree and I still haven’t beaten some of them. I feel like Zombies Ate My Neighbors was originally meant to be an arcade game but then they decided to expand it and forgot to balance it. It’s fun but you have to know what you’re doing to get far.
I was going to say Demons Crest final secret boss. I was proud to just beat the Gameboy game of Battletoads that shit wasn't easy. Contra you have to beat it 2 or 3 times to actually get the best ending. I suck at this game never going to finish this one. Lion King spot on fuck that game. Sandy Koufax only had 2 pitches didn't matter you weren't hitting either one. Mickey Mantle came up to the plate and his teammate said just sit back down your not hitting shit. any of the Star Wars FFS way to difficult nailed that. I beat Castlevania Dracula X hated those pits on the final boss just BS. Got the worst ending but screw it.
Yeah, those are all pretty tough in their own ways. At least most of them are pretty awesome as well. I love Demon's Crest and Contra 3. Dracula X I didn't think was tough until the final boss. The arena for that fight is downright nasty. What a difficulty spike. ActRaiser 2, though, might be the biggest disappointment on the system. The first game rules, and the graphics in 2 are phenomenal. The slow walking speed, sluggish combat, and awkward to learn floating/diving mechanics come together with the excised sim mode to made a great big pile of sadness.
2 Same on Actraiser II. The first was my favorite game on the system and for them to gut and repurpose the game in such an abomination was just awful. Working my way through the back catalogue of your videos. I hope your move went okay and you are settling in to your new digs.
The Super Star Wars games were NOT that hard. They were a bit of a challenge, but my friends and I were comfortably able to beat every one of them with a 3-day rental.
@@Fortefyre LoL! Can't argue with that. If it did... it did. Not sure why I never had the problems with it so many others had. I'm typically not great at action-heavy games.
I do remember those Star Wars games being hard as hell
They definitely are!
@@FortefyreStill better than my awful/painful GTA PS2 experience (Especially GTA III) where i had endless amount of problems such as NPC's only listening whenever they feel like it, Dying sooooo many times just to see the lovely "Wasted!" on my screen, Failing a mission in such a bullshit and very unfair way, Cars getting flipped over, A cheat doesn't work at random for no reason even when i typed it right to a goddamn fucking T, Gangs shoot you for no reason, Mods don't work and either nothing happens or the game crashes. Oh i could go on and write a book about on how these games caused me severe anger issues as a teenager at 13-15.
@@FortefyreEven NES games were more fun than that unfair GTA 3 even was. (No kidding)
The star wars gsmrs are very easy everyone has a hitten cave where you can get essy 98 Lifes
Earthworm Jim 2 that is a brutal hard game
If you enjoyed the SNES Star Wars games then you might also like Indiana Jones Greatest Adventures.
Wasn’t the old wives tale that Lion King was made so hard to keep kids renting it?
No it's very true lol. Disney told them to make it hard. The whole idea is "make it hard to where the kids want to buy it to beat it".
They didn't want kids to be able to rent Lion King in one weekend and beat the game.
They made it extremely hard in the hopes more people would buy Lion King.
A lot of games are like that
Seventh saga is the game i tried to beat many times but got stuck at almost the same
point every time
Have you tried different combos for starters? In my playthrough I think I played Lejes with Valsu. With him being a mage, when he betrayed me it wasn't as bad, or maybe I'm thinking of another character. Strategy wiki is VERY helpful for figuring out what characters will be aggressive towards you.
11:05 Same here. I only want to worry about enemies/bosses and bullets, not getting hit by an obstacle, ceiling or wall. Thankfully, some horizontal shooters like Cotton or Deathsmiles won’t have you dying when you touch the ground. Drainus has the stealth guard feature which I ALWAYS leave on because I dislike dying by touching the ground, wall or ceiling. And many bullet hell horizontal shooters have ground that is either nonexistent or doesn’t hurt you at all and I very much prefer that.
Ooooh
That jared joke tho. 😂😂😂
It's better than what it originally was lmao, my wife is catholic so I had to "revise" it.
I'm a Catholic-turned-Mormon, and I found that joke to be perfect 😂
@@Fortefyre What was the original??
@@yleetv Harder than a catholic priest at disney world lol
@@Fortefyre Ahh, right 😆😅
Demon Crest was/is a great game. I cant beat the last special boss but damn it was a blast to play. The 7th Saga, however, is my favorite game on the SNES I have never beat.
You gotta go back and try it lmao
Legend of Galahad for the Mega Drive had the same issue as Zombie Ate My Neighbours as far as passwords went; for some reason you also only got a password at the end of levels 7 and 14 out of a total of 21 (I don't know if Leander, as the Amiga version was called, had the same issue but trying to start level 8 with only the initial sword was really painful due to how little damage it did to the dragon enemies which insta-kill you if their head touches touches you).
See that's the kind of stuff that just irritates the hell out of me lol. It's a BAD oversight!
12:10 Bro I owned Barts Nightmare as a kid and could never make it past the orange door. Eventually like 14 years later I finally beat it, but it was still a struggle.
I FEEL YOUR PAIN
@Fortefyre The worst thing about it is to get an A+ you have to grind points in one of the itchy and scratchy stages. I remember getting all the way to the last stage and dying I was so mad.😭😭😭
I'm telling you, the game was a mistake lmao.
I'm replaying 7th Saga right now with Esuna and Lux. I always forget about not getting the Remote and having to sail from Bonro instead. Great JRPG! Good stuff, Forte!
You can do it!
I know they released Rondo of Blood on the Wiiware so I still have a virtual copy of it. It's definitely a more polished game than Dracula X but both are fun
Aboslutely! Rondo will always be the "better" game, but Dracula X still holds weight.
X looks better and has a killer OST but man, Rondo just blows it out the water
What stands out for me with Actraiser 2 was actually the soundtrack and setting, both of which I found stellar. It’s a letdown from the first as the simulation is what sets it apart from just another platformer but I I still think it works as a standalone it would just be viewed more kindly if the original didn’t exist
I am just such a big fanboy for everything that made Actraiser 1 what it was.
10) Zombies Ate My Neighbors - I love playing this game...but I hate trying to beat this game. So, I just play until I've gotten my fill and call it a day. The password system is such a big problem.
9) Battlemaniacs - This game is fun and charming...right up until the moment that it reminds you, "This is a Battletoads game, buddy. Good luck."
HM1) Demon's Crest - Just beating the game (getting to an ending) isn't that tough at all. But trying to fully complete the game is quite a bit harder. Fantastic game, though!
8) Contra III - 90% of the difficulty here lies with the final boss. With some practice, the earlier stages can become pretty easy but that finale...holy smokes, what a pain!
7) Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts - This game is so charming...but WAY too difficult. I can beat Ghouls 'n Ghosts on Genesis but this game is just too much.
HM2) The 7th Saga - I've avoided this game for decades because of how difficult I've heard it is.
6) The Lion King - This game's difficulty is the "die and retry" variety and there are really only a few spots that are the offenders. Once you get past them, it's really not all that tough to beat.
5) Actraiser 2 - I've not attempted this game, mostly out of disappointment against the original but it's reputation as tough-as-nails does stand out.
4) Hagane - I've attempted this once or twice. I never last very long. I've heard this called the hardest game on the SNES and I believe it.
HM3) U.N. Squadron - It's been 32 years and I've still never beaten the final stage of this game. Love it to death...but the final stretch is tough.
3) Super ESB - The entire Super Star Wars trilogy is fairly tough but plenty beatable. Super ESB is no doubt the hardest, simply because it's the longest and has the most grueling stages.
2) Bart's Nightmare - This game is a mish-mash. Some stages are stupid easy and some feel almost impossible. I have a soft spot for it but it can be a *rough* playthrough.
1) Dracula X - I've yet to make a serious attempt to beat this one but I understand that many parts, including the final boss, are just the worst kind of hard.
It was SO epic of you to take the time to break down your takes as well! Thank you! It seems like we have mostly the same opinions on difficulty lol.
@@Fortefyre My pleasure! I really enjoyed the video and wanted to lend my thoughts. Many of these are games I grew up with and have become dear to me. The Super Star Wars trilogy, for example, is a series of games that I bought as they released and spent many, many hours pouring into them. I've gotten quite adept at them to the point that I sometimes forget how challenging they can be in the beginning. But that's part of the fun of the journey through any difficult game; watching yourself grow and learn and how your feelings change.
The Super Star Wars games are awesome and I've beaten all three of them. Lots of gameplay variety, multiple playable characters, and they captured the feel of the movies well. They're hard, yes, but hard in a get-good way. Also, the lightsaber totally isn't weak when you use the spinning lightsaber move, which lets you do an ongoing somersault while swinging your blade of death through enemies.
Also, Super Ghouls and Ghost is much, much easier if you play it on Nintendo Switch Online with the rewind feature. Some may call that blasphemy, but it lets you breeze through the game's two playthroughs - sure, it's still hard, but it's manageable since you don't have to start levels over when you die.
It's been a LONG time since I've played them. They kicked my ass lol.
I will definitely agree that Castlevania X is STILL hard... I only finished it when I was in my late 20s...While other's consider it as a butchered version of the PCEngine original game, i still had fun as I thought of it as a what if of sorts... Will surely try Hagane and the & 7th Saga games as I have never played or known of them before...
Hagane is beyond fun, like I was shocked. There aren't many games that are so well made that it MAKES you want to keep playing them even when you're losing consistently, it's a real accomplishment in development tbh.
7th Saga, if you do play it, and you like it, is part of a bigger psuedo-franchise with a kinda sequel Mystic Ark, and Brain Lord but none of them correlate. It's worth checking them out!
I always have thought ActRaiser 2 will be absolutely unfinishable…
I did beat it, but I needed Save States on the Tanzra fight.
@@Fortefyre I need save states for just the first area 😂
Awe come on :P
Hey I was in the airforce and i was also at nellis air force base. When were you in? Just caught that while watching the video.
I joined in 12 and got out in 23. I was at Nellis from 18 to 23:) I bounced between Viper and Tomahawk AMU.
@@Fortefyre pretty cool I was in from 1998-2002 security forces then I worked as a government contractor for 15 years at the red flag building on base.
@@Wair18 Nice man! I miss Nellis, it was always busy, but not for the wrong reasons.
8:42 Grind this, beat it, and hold your dad to his word
My dad passed away two years ago, but I can comfortably say he would tell me to "kiss his ass" and then we'd laugh over it lmao.
Heres a funny one about USA 7th Saga that will actually blow your mind. I blasted so many hours on that game even before I found this one out:
The easist solo character challenge is the Demon. His Sword strength and maxed out Speed at earliest level possible makes him the actual easiest character even above that cheatstick named Valsu or Esuna even. Esuna can get ganked anytime she fights a magic resistant enemy and Valsu can be ran over if he cannot deal enough damage. Lejes suffers from none of those problems.
I never considered using the demon, I was so hardset on traditional RPG classes and races that I understood lol.
@@Fortefyre I fell into the category of solo challenge game running 7thSaga about 10 years ago and yeah. Demon was not just the solo champ, he was also the fastest for completion too. His main thing was just getting him to the level that he maxed out his speed stat.
AS for his classic class, hes basically a FF1 Red Mage with only Black Magic instead. The stupid thing with him is that at the map area right before the final dungeon you can use his mass insta-kill spell on the most common enemies there and just power level like crazy if you need to by that point. He gets that VACUUM2 spell way earlier than Esuna does too. Its only problem is the high cost and finding the enemies that have a low magic stat( magic doubles as the magic defense stat too) so that it lands often.
Duly noted.
Beat Battletoads: Battlemaniacs fairly recently. Have a Retron5 with GameGenie Cheats in order to beat it. Infinite Lives, Infinite Energy, and Moon-Jump (for the very end of the Hover bike level only). It took me 2 hours to learn patterns for whole Hover bike level, 2 hours for last 3 parts of the Snake level, 4 tries (2hours 1st time, 2 hours 2nd time, 3 hours 3rd time, & 90 minutes for last time) and 90 minutes for tower part. Was able to SAVE spots I was in because of 5-Gigabyte card space in back of Retron5.
My Retron5 was a piece of shit when it came to reading SD cards. Which one did you use?
@@Fortefyre It says it is a TOSHIBA SDHC 5 Gigabyte memory card. My Retron5 is the black-covered one (don't know if that's different from the others).
Outside of color scheme I don't believe it is. They both have that atrocious controller haha.
There exists a bootleg lion king game for SNES where everytime you die, Simba (or Timon or Pumba) commits suicide on the continue screen. Simba hangs himself, Timon buries himself alive and Pumba jumps in a pot of soup.
Yupppp I remember Jon Tron covering it lol
@@Fortefyre right! Couldn't remember if it was him or PB Gamer. Good video either way. I appreciate the reply and the content.
I still laugh at the "Oh my GODDDDDDDDD" to the tune of Lion King lol
Contra 3:the Alien Wars,Mega Man X3,Super Ghouls and Ghosts,R-Type 3 are all frustrating. I actually didn't find Castlevania Dracula X that difficult,compared to the PSP remake that was maddingly tough! My biggest gripe on the SNES one was you couldn't play as Maria Renard as in the other versions.
Those are all great additions! I feel like I could make a Top 10 Hardest Shooters on the SNES alone from what Japan sent our way.
The 7th Saga is the hardest game I've ever played that doesn't involve using your reflexes. You cna't just grind your way to a win because the other characters level up WITH you. There are parts of the game that if you level up too much, the character you have to fight will murder you harder than if you hadn't grinded at all. I'm pretty sure that you can get legitimately stuck if you grind too much.
The Lion King is a breeze, though. It blows me away how many people consider it hard. I got that game when I was in middle school and I never found it to be all that difficult.
Right? It's ONE pattern to learn in Lion King. Sure it's tough initially, but once you have the pattern it's kind of cake. But that pattern is still gnarly.
That second level. You know which one. I remember reading somewhere that it is one of the toughest and most hated levels on the SNES platform.
it took me a long time to beat contra 3 on the hardest difficulty. I read that the codes only work for the japanese version.
This is true (to my knowledge)
Hey, so I've recently start watched your videos, but I have one question. Some games start with 'HM:', what does that stand for? BTW, Zombies At My Neighbors was difficult, however very fun!
Honorable Mention! I'm trying to find better options for the lower third, so hopefully that will be fixed in the future :)
@@Fortefyre ...Ooooh, okay! Yeah, seeing it now, that makes sense. Well, thank you for that.
All the Super Star Wars game are crazy and hard...I didn't get a lot of enjoyment out of those three.
The first time I messed with them was on the Game Gear tbh lol.
I tried Actraiser 2 for 40 minutes. Then I took it back to the game store and replayed the first one.
I’ve probably mentioned this before about Zombies Ate My Neighbors, but it needed longer passwords so you could keep your items.
Super Empire Strikes Back is an exercise in frustration because the ice physics on Hoth are with you throughout the entire game! Did Cloud City use too much wax on their floors, or what!?
And the tragedy of Dracula X….
All of the level content could’ve made it from the Rondo Of Blood. I’m not expecting the cinemas, the red book audio, and voice acting. But everything else could’ve made it into Dracula X. 😞
It's like crisco on your feet! I agree entirely with what you're saying about Dracula X, because the fancy bells and whistles, could have been pushed to the wayside for a SOLID port.
personally i found battletoads in battlemaniac hardest of those on the list. you have extremely limited lives and once you get to the turbotunnel the difficulty just keeps on spiking. hagane was pretty easy for me since you have alot of continues and enemies often drops extra lives. Dracula x was also easy for me except for the final boss.
I need to play more Castlevania.
2:57 to me the really hardest part about this game is the 2 final bosses. (One of which you need a password just to fight.)
I 100% agree!
Great list! Yeah, Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts is really rough. I've only managed to get the true ending once years ago and I probably don't have the patience to ever do it again! 😅 For me, I'd also give honorable mention to Super R-Type/R-Type III and Pugsley's Scavenger Hunt.
I'm curious to see a Top 10 hardest Sega Genesis games if it hasn't already been done.
I'll add it to the list :)
The first Super Star Wars game kicked my butt so hard that my teeth were sore. I never got past the first stage, though I gave up on it pretty quickly. I'll admit that I've always stunk at run and gun platformers, but when I rented this one it took away my desire to play anything in the series.
I believe that 100%
Really good list! I've only been able to beat Contra III and Demon's Crest out of this list. Made it to the end of UN Squadron and Dracula X and gave up because of my sanity. Act Raiser 2 is my vote for hardest I've played. It has such unforgiving game-play and a steep learning curve for the controls. Back in the day Game Genie codes weren't even a help and I've yet to beat one boss on it.
I think the most "fuck you" think ActRaiser 2 did to me, was letting you suffer through easy mode before telling you before the final area to "play on a harder difficulty" lmao
I agree. All of the games on this list are difficult. I don't know if it is a good thing or a bad thing that I have beaten nearly all of them. The ones I have not beaten are the star wars games and 7th saga. All of the others I have beaten.
sounds like you have a goal now!
Man no one talks about UN Squadron. I love that game. It has some really outstanding music. Took me a long time to beat it, but once you get the strategy down of holding the initial plane until you can afford the ultimate its not too crazy.
Yeah I never even really considered the idea of holding onto my money until the end lol.
@@Fortefyre Did you beat it without the best plane? That would be impressive to me, the top plane is very powerful.
@@WobblePizza I've beaten the arcade version, but that's day and night when you have infinite credits lmao.
One game you probably never played but is without a doubt one of the hardest SNES games is Faceball 2000. 41 levels, no passwords, and the last levels are extremely difficult.
I've never even heard of it lmao.
I remember ProJared mentioning that one.
If you give it time, Castlevania Dracula X is beatable. I got the best ending last October with the re-release of the Advance Collection (without save states or rewinds). It’s very much grounded in the NES mechanics, which I’m ok with since those were my first experiences with CV. I’m not sure that Actraiser 2 is possible to beat though. I tried so damn hard a couple years back. A2 is gorgeous to look at, but a chore to play.
Actraiser 2....*sigh* that game hurt my soul. It genuinely hurt my soul.
Zombies Ate My Neighbors is one I never played, but I sometimes hear swearing coming from the ether of damned souls who could never beat it.
I'm one of those lmao.
Oh lord Contra 3 I plunked down so much allowance at the video rental store for that one 😅
I would have myself, but by the time I was renting games, the N64 was in the limelight.
@@Fortefyre I was six years old when I was blessed as one of the first NES owners in my small town back in 85. …my kidneys hurt just writing that down.
😂
Moo sit down, you know your back hurts :P
Bro I clicked and my head thought Battletoads! 😂 I was right! I have nostalgia for the SNES one (couldn't beat it even with cheats when I was younger) but nowadays I'd rather trust eating gas station sushi than my abilities to beat it as an adult.
BIG FACTS lmao. I'd trust Pimento Cheese sandwiches left out in the vegas sun for 2 days over playing Battletoads again.
I am enjoying your videos along with your zingers.
Thank you! I appreciate that!
What might be easy to you is might be hard for me. That was a true statement
As it should be!
I'm going to have to try Hagane, it looks sick
Hagane is a SLEEPER hit. I promise you, you will enjoy it.
I almost beat the Zombies at my Neighbors. I think I got to the last level, but ran out of the certain item to complete it and gave up. Also, I have noticed with the game is if a neighbor dies, you have that many less for the rest of the game.
ZAMN kicks my ass sideways every single time I try to play it, and it upsets me so much lol
2:10 😅🤣😂 savage 💀
SO true though lmao.
truer words have never been spoken @@Fortefyre
In The 7th Saga, I always liked Lux. Except for the clanking when he walks. Also, I got Valsu to join me as Lejes, which the manual said would never happen.
WOAH seriously?
Oh yeah, Castlevania Dracula X is tough to beat, I barely got passed the second stage, and I have yet to see the third boss, I got lucky when I found the copy I have of this game, it was expensive but I had enough money to buy it available, it's as they say, and I already beat Super Castlevania IV for the SNES and Castlevania III Dracula's Curse for the NES, but Dracula's X is a different animal, a lot harder...
I'm just not sure at the monsters or the pitfalls, or the floor collapsing right of your feets, but the challenge in that game is pretty much expert, well worth it even if...
Also, it,s a perfect game of choice when it's Halloween...
That game is a monster....
I had a special month prior to this month, so I don't think I'll be doing anything special for spooktober lol.
I'm gonna log my opinion on your opinions as I watch:
Agree: 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 3, 2, 1
Disagree:
Never played: 5, 4
Looks like I don't have much to complain about with this video
Looks like I did something right! :P
10:20 Thank you for your Service
Oh thanks!
@@Fortefyre no problem whenever I see a Veteran I like to thank them for their Service
Well it means alot!
Why would anybody even begin to construct a barbed wire canoe?🤣
Modern problems require modern solutions :P
Crazy how many of those games are Star Wars games.
Right?
The first version of Final Fantasy 4 in Japan is notably less forgiving than what we got in the US. The only version even more difficult is the DS remake; with the original difficulty labeled as hard mode on mobile and PC. Final Fantasy 4 Easy Type in Japan however is the easiest one ever.
Dishonorable mention to Mega Man X3. While the bosses are easier than ever to exploit with the AI behavior (aside from Kaiser Sigma), the generic enemies hit far harder than before or since. Also, the Giga Crush was replaced with a barrier ability that didn't really work out. Also the fully charged buster upgrade is not as useful as the one with Mega Man X2 due to the one in X3 firing more like a wall of projectiles.
Interesting!
Wizardry 5 was a pain for me. I had a book of notes of how to pass certain areas, hand drawn maps with traps and secrets. I had even managed to find my way to the Hell level and fought the games optional boss. Never made it to the Sorn until i was playing an emulator in Iraq because my dad tossed all my stuff because "Witchcraft".
Just out of the shear size and the lack of knowing what to do without a guide makes the game hard. It has like 30 or so required items and the hints are absolutely asinine.
So far, I've only messed with Wizardry 1, and I love it, it was a great game, but it sounds like I have a rough franchise ahead of me lol.
@@Fortefyre I am currently playing through the rerelease of it on PS5. Seems like the same game with some quality of life upgrades. I'm around the halfway point grind down to the bottom, which is the biggest downside. There is literally nothing for like 5 floors. Just grind to level up.
@@anthonybooth1005 Ew. I'm about to beat Dark Cloud hopefully on my side of things. I'm ready to move on to other games lol.
@Fortefyre same. I enjoy channels like yours since I grew up on NES and SNES. Gives me games to add to my current rotation. I'm slowly knocking out my modern games back log, but my retro is Wizardry and Dragon Quest 1-5. Trying to knock all of those out before the DQ3 release this year.
Hagane should have been higher on the list. I have beaten it but SON OF A BITCH! It's one of those games that if you finally beat it, you're never going to want to go through that ever again. When you beat a video game you should feel a sense of accomplishment, with Hagane, it's a relief, and a game should not be so hard it's a relief as opposed to an accomplishment. I also own a repro of Hagane, as well as a repro box, and a repro owner's manual. You also need to try Nightmare Busters, it's not as bad as Hagane, but it's no cakewalk either. I have a repro of Nightmare Busters as well.
I love Hagane lol. It's really a good solid game, and there's so many ways to beat the bosses. Did you ever master the somersault kick?
@@Fortefyre I wouldn't say I "mastered" it. I used it a few times and didn't see the need to use it. I didn't use most of his special moves because I couldn't remember all the button presses in the heat of combat. That's also one of the reasons I don't like 2D fighters. LOL.
I knew zombies would be on the list.
It has to be lol
Zombies ate my neighbours is RUTHLESS
DUDE ISN'T IT?
@@Fortefyre its supposed to be a fun multiplayer game no way in hell
Boy dem sum nasty ass games here!
filthy games!
I actually completed Bart’s Nightmare. It’s hard, but doable.
The Itchy and Scratchy stages were the easiest by the way.
NOPE lol
You liked Castlevania more before it became a MetroidVania??? Woof, bold stance, lad. Haha
:P I like to live dangerously.
Super Star Wars was harder than Super Empire for me.
They all are stupid hard to me lol
I can blow through yhe first 3-4 ish levels of super gouls and ghosts then it gets hard
I wish I could even make it past level 1 lmao.
Try ren @stimpy time warp. Holy balls is it difficult.
Oh no doubt!
Demon’s Crest is tough but fun. If you’re a masochist.
Indeed!
The Loin King
Jim Power: The Lost Demension in 3D
Battlemaniacs
Hagane: The Final Conflict
Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts
Megaman X, X2 and X3
7th Saga
That's a solid list!
Git gud lol kidding. Of the games on this list I agree and I still haven’t beaten some of them. I feel like Zombies Ate My Neighbors was originally meant to be an arcade game but then they decided to expand it and forgot to balance it. It’s fun but you have to know what you’re doing to get far.
Zombies is the bane of my existence lmao.
@@FortefyreI never beat it either, it takes too long. Yeah there are passwords but bleh.
Bleh indeed!
I was going to say Demons Crest final secret boss. I was proud to just beat the Gameboy game of Battletoads that shit wasn't easy. Contra you have to beat it 2 or 3 times to actually get the best ending. I suck at this game never going to finish this one. Lion King spot on fuck that game. Sandy Koufax only had 2 pitches didn't matter you weren't hitting either one. Mickey Mantle came up to the plate and his teammate said just sit back down your not hitting shit. any of the Star Wars FFS way to difficult nailed that. I beat Castlevania Dracula X hated those pits on the final boss just BS. Got the worst ending but screw it.
Thank you for taking us on a journey inside your retro video gaming journey!
Yeah, those are all pretty tough in their own ways. At least most of them are pretty awesome as well. I love Demon's Crest and Contra 3. Dracula X I didn't think was tough until the final boss. The arena for that fight is downright nasty. What a difficulty spike.
ActRaiser 2, though, might be the biggest disappointment on the system. The first game rules, and the graphics in 2 are phenomenal. The slow walking speed, sluggish combat, and awkward to learn floating/diving mechanics come together with the excised sim mode to made a great big pile of sadness.
Don't even get me started on ActRaiser 2...god that irritated me. ActRaiser Renaissance was just as bad to me, with them shoehorning in tower defence.
I prefer Rondo of Blood over Castlevania X anyways.
Oh absolutely!
I love this kind of content 💋👌
Why thank you!
2 Same on Actraiser II. The first was my favorite game on the system and for them to gut and repurpose the game in such an abomination was just awful. Working my way through the back catalogue of your videos. I hope your move went okay and you are settling in to your new digs.
It's pretty solid, the house is amazing! If you think Actraiser 2 is bad, try Actraiser Renaissance, they shoe-horned tower defense into it.
Yeah, F these games... in a good way.
Absolutely!
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:)
A jared fogle joke in 2024? Woof. That's terrible
Would you expect anything less from me? LOL
The Super Star Wars games were NOT that hard. They were a bit of a challenge, but my friends and I were comfortably able to beat every one of them with a 3-day rental.
I disagree, that game spanked my ass with a spatula. Lol
@@Fortefyre LoL! Can't argue with that. If it did... it did. Not sure why I never had the problems with it so many others had. I'm typically not great at action-heavy games.