@James Darmor He's not going to lose that crazy agility, except for with age. It's AI, but taller. He'll look like Richard Hamilton out there and more finishes above the rim. Even longer strides than he had won't make him less agile.
@James Darmor it's simple math really. The loss in agility and speed that would come with the increased height would easily be shadowed by how much easier it would be to score for him and how much better he'd be on D
@James Darmor actually depends on if he would put in the effort to be in shape and work on his agility and increase his speed you're clearly out of shape irl
Kyrie is an amazing player with superstar skills but Iverson was on a completely different level. I don't see Kyrie or any point guard ever doing what Iverson did in 2001 where he, at barely 6'0 and 170 pounds, led a garbage team all the way to the finals and still find a way to win at least one game. Iverson was a 4x scoring champion. The only guy under 6'1 to have over 20,000 career points. Won league MVP over guys like O'Neal, Duncan, Kobe, Garnett all in their prime. That's not a knock against Kyrie or any other point guard. Iverson was just special.
@@lomoney4008 Kyrie's problem is that he pounds the ball incessantly, running time off of the clock until he makes his move. He seems to often be on the court by himself, in his mind, until he reaches a point where he has no choice but to dump it off to his teammates with little time left take a decent shot. At the same time he makes some amazing shots at the rim against multiple defenders, so he's is at least entertaining.
Renzy Wenzy and I love Kyrie (that Finals shot was legendary) but Iverson didn’t need a Lebron and another All-Star player to get to the Finals in the first place. Put a whole city on his back for a decade+... pound for pound inch for inch a true 🐐 and Legend in the game of basketball
Can Kyrie: 1 Cross Jordan 2 Score 50 in ROOKIE year 3 Make it to the finals by HIMSELF(no LeBron) 4 Defeat Shaq and Kobe by HIMSELF 5 So put back dunks 6 Who dropped more people 7 Who wanted the head band and arm/leg sleeve b4 AI(NOBODY) Allen Iverson>Kyrie Irving
@Domo Jones Bruh, you ain't never lied. Kyrie had a team that took Lebron to 7 games in the ECF without him, and couldn't get them past round 2. AI got a game against Shaq & Kobe with Dikembe and...🤔🤷♂️ How is this even a debate?
You can add LeBron to that and AI still has more heart than those 3. Better defender than those 3, lead the league in steals. They keep saying LeBron carries his team, AI carried more weight than LeBron ever has.
Still zero rings. Sure, he carried the Sixers to the finals but that's the exact thing y'all knock LeBron for. Y'all keep pointing to his 6 finals losses whenever somebody brings up a comparison vs MJ
Allen Iverson was an absolute offensive GOD. Im telling you he could not be stopped. Kyrie is REALLY good don't get me wrong, but Iverson was absolutely ABSURD.
SedaW LoL real talk defense couldn't check A.I on any level. Nigga A.I was a automatic bucket back in his days. I bet if A.I was in game 3 where cavs didn't score for the final 3 minutes of the game, they would've won .
Not to mention he put his body on the line and hustled every play. Might not have been a lock down defensive player but if you got lazy he could strip you quick
🚫STOP IT!Allen Iverson's PUPPETRY concerning SKILLS, FORCED the NBA to "INSTALL MERCY RULES" because A.I HANDLES and Iverson was a BETTER SCORER!Tmac,Kobe maybe better offensively but IVERSON IS A TOP TEN OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF ALL TIME AND MAYBE 1ST UNDER 6 FEET TALL!BLASPHEMY!This Man STANDS 7th ALL TIME PPG AVG!
@adam brown debating about AI is hard, either you think he is god tier, like the original comment by Kyza Sose, or they're like you, who downplay how good AI actually was. Pure offense skill wise, he might be one of the best ever. His impact is highly dampened by his height though, he was not even 6 ft, and he had a bad attitude, never got better. He can never be mentioned with the GOATs because of that. A 6'6" Iverson would probably son almost anyone.
Ray Lew But he was defensive player of the year though. Kyrie was basically by himself on a bad team from year 1-3 at age 19-21. AI had 1 playoff team in his 1st 3 years in a lockout season in which the team went 22-28. AI didnt have a decent record until his 4th year and his 5th was when they went to the Finals, at the age of 25. Kyrie is more skilled than AI.
When you consider strictly skill set, forget team accomplishments etc. When you consider the disadvantages Iverson faced when all defenders were taller and stronger (Iverson 6'0 165lbs) and the fact he had no one else to rely on, a very good argument can be made that Iverson is one of the greatest basketball players of all time! Now he has no rings so he will not be mentioned with Jordan and Kobe etc, but looking at strictly skill set, Iverson is as good as any other basketball player to have ever played. If you never got to see that man play, youtube him and sit back and enjoy!
Clive Clivington he went to the finals with one of the worst rosters ever, and the second worst roster to be in the finals first LeBron on the old cavs. AI made the finals against the Lakers where he was murdering their whole team. Kobe could not guard him and kobe is one of the most toughest defenders of all time. AI was getting triple teamed by ppl all over 6'5 and he's 5'11 I don't even see kyrie getting doubled ever unless he's crazy hot. AI gets doubled first play of the game as soon as the ball touches his hands and he still socres.
Karpov Liam Kyrie isn't a ball hog. Truth. AI was a ball hog because he had to be. Aside from the 6th man of the year and the DEFENSIVE player of the year, who else did he have to pass to? And even if he did have teammates, he played against the best one two punch EVER, and stole a game in the finals when no one expected them to even get there, giving them their only loss of that entire playoff run.
I miss those days. AI is the last player that comes to mind that virtually every kid wanted to emulate. Be it the generational handles or the do it all attitude. The small stature or the start to stop quickness. There was something relatable yet other worldly about him. It's different with a LeBron, Shaq, etc because most kids knew they weren't going to grow up being 6'8+ athletic anomalies.
Trayvon Etienne You must not know A. I I'm talking bout the A. I that took a game from Kobe and SHAQ. the A.I that was the only good offensive player they had. He would score the fucking ball in the last 3 minutes of a damn playoff game. simple.
Capo Gainz kd is gonna go down as one of the greatest. 4 time scoring champ youngest to ever won a scoring title an mvp a finals mvp and kd still in prime
KD spoke only in terms of individual skills. Clearly A.I was more effective with the skills he had, but KD was right in saying Kyrie has more skills than him. It's just how it is. You can have all the skills in the world, but if you can't win like A.I you can't be greater. But you can be better.
Entertainment Attorney I hear you. A.I. is my favorite player of all time but Kyrie is my current favorite player and I'm from Jersey. So it's all love. I just consider heart an intangible skill
sib Kyrie is that guy that knows all the tricks but Iverson just balled. Iverson had better stamina, speed, quickness, verticle, 1st step, decision making, better passer, and played the passing lanes better
I was alive but very young born in 1996 and In my opinion Iverson is head and shoulders better than kyrie I wish the cavs had AI in his prime currently I do not want to see the warriors win anymore chips
100%... iverson didn't have anything to work with.. and the league was much more physical back then, the league is softer now plus ball handlers can take an extra step now too
Tommy Williams Doesn't matter. Doesn't change the fact he doesn't play defense and he's not a great playmaker. 25-28 Is usually a player's best years and I don't see him making any huge jump within that time that'll put him in the same sentence as Iverson. Not to mention his durability isn't all that great either.
AI was one of the most exciting players I have EVER watched!! He took a group of team mates that had no business in the playoffs let alone to the finals and took a game from Kobe and Shaq's lakers!! If you put AI in those days with a decent team or a for real number two then he might have won a finals or got there alot, Iverson was special to watch he was a lil dude but thought he was ten feet tall with just pure guts, heart & no fear!!
kyrie is showing this year he may perhaps the best guard to ever play the game. His command of the dribble tp get anywhere he wants against whomever checks him is very kobeish. Kyrie has built his body up and is hard to knock iff his spot. AI could be moved and certainly didnt have a postgame like kyrie. kyrie has a jumper that is deadly off the dribble and standing still. AI worked hard to get buckets while Kyrie has a rounded game and uses intellect and assessing the game to get easier buckets with less energy. Both have that dog in them. I do believe kyrie is a better playmaker than AI as well simply watch his team USA highlights. He was the best by far on thr offensivr side plsying 1 on 5 against the best NBA talent in the world. kyrie can articulate himself like a statesman. Certainly not your typical athlete interview hes introspective, exposed. a delight to litsen and watch. Only 25 years old with a chip.
I think kyrie has more skills but Allen utilizes his set of skills WAAAAAY better than kyrie ever could. Mentally Iverson is out of kyrie's stratosphere.
Top 5 Prodigy #89-93 ummm Kyrie has NEVER been that much more efficient and has NEVER singlehandedly led ANY team to a Finals. Not to mention drop 40 plus on supposed 2nd greatest SG either.
Top 5 Prodigy #89-93 If AI played with Lebron, we already know what would happen. No words need to be wasted lol. Put Kyrie on the 76ers of 01', are they going to the playoffs? How bout the finals? Yea, I didn't think so either.
Nick Gladding ur on crack he overrated because ur pathetic team has a lousy bench that can't hold a lead. was u calling him overrated with all them 4th quarter comebacks?
It's not even close, AI led his team to the finals , Kyrie still haven't did so. He had a shot in Boston but couldn't do it. But AI did, O and by the way Kyrie has not even been in a MVP race but AI has and won.
Let's just put it like this, the Cleveland Cavaliers would be standing here as 3 time world champions had Iverson & LeBron both played on the same team
Give Kyrie credit though, if it weren't for him, GSW would've had a 3-peat. We all know Lebron wasn't gonna take that last shot in Game 7 last year. Also, Kyrie was robbed of that Finals MVP last year.
KD was just trying to be nice since he robbed the LavaLiers of any chance at championship gold. But the truth is past all those fancy handles and decent layup package, he ain't shit compared to AI. He stole a Finals game from Shaq and Kobe by himself. Kyrie can't even steal a regular season game against the Pistons without LeBron.
Yo Mammas Boo excuses. If lebron is the greatest and kyrie better than curry and love better than Draymond and korver is an all-star who ranks number 7 on all time 3 pointers made and Cleveland broke the three point made record in the finals with jr swish hitting five 3s then you have no excuse.
ave383 Excuses about what? Kyrie is overrated....sure he has handles and a shot. Is he a leader...nope...consistently healthy... not really......known for not dissapearing in a crucial game ....shiiiiiii@...he's Waldo sometimes.
4 years later and Kyrie still doesn’t even compare to Allen iverson. Greatest p4p player arguably ever & will always be a top 5 guard ever no matter how you look at it. Straight up
if A.I. played in today's nba we wouldn't be talking about how much better K.I. is than A.I. K.I. plays in a league were you can't touch them when they shoot or block shots in the paint like they use to haha A.I. was a better shooter better ball handler better finisher better all around talent you can say what you want about shooting percentage but A.I. took contested shots most of his career at 5'11 not 6ft
i'd even give kyrie the better ball handling, AI had the sick crossovers but it was his speed that made it deadly. Kyries handles are so intricate and smooth and quick...but dont get me wrong I think AI was definitely a better player because of his mentality. cocky muthafucker who knew he was the man and proved it every night
Iverson was also a much better playmaker than Kyrie is, maybe the handles alone goes to Kyrie but Iverson’s speed along with his handles made his handles much more deadly like Sam said. Kyrie doesn’t have shit on Iverson. Great player but not on the level that Iverson was, undisputed
I'm with you! Kyrie is a stud but if Bron leaves, he'll never play in another finals game! FACTS!! I would love to see him play off the ball more and be more of a facilitator. I watched him his entire career and he's not a treat if the ball isn't in his hands.
Kevin Riddell the coach and the players. The teams chemistry is crazy good. But most of the credit does go to brad but let’s not forget about the players. They have hell of potential
it is true that Kyrie is more skilled but AI had Westbrook-like energy reserves on top of being quicker, faster and a lot more consistent. Easily more valuable player
A.I dragged his team to the finals and gave the lakers their only loss and stopped them from going undefeated as the only team but nah. A.I came and lit up the first game while handling players like shaw knocking him down.
How the hell are you gunna say kyrie is better than AI in anything? When Lebron gets benched for 2 minutes the cavs go down by 15 damn points. Kyrie can't do shit Lebron makes him look better.
Yes because Kyrie has two All Stars on his team, one of them is a top 4 player of all time. It is easier for Kyrie when the defense has to focus on those guys too. AI was pretty much the only one that could score by himself on this Sixers team. AI is a bit inefficient? Yes, but put Kyrie on this Sixers team and see how the numbers get worse...
Kyrie is also playing in an era where the big-man can't camp in the paint like in the past. Plus you can't hand-check or be as physical on defense. Go look at Iverson's efficiency when he played with Melo in Denver in like 06-08. He was still scoring over 26 points on pretty good efficiency at like 31-32 years old. If prime Iverson played in this era, he'd still average 28 + on better efficiency, especially if he had great offensive talents on his team to take some of the pressure of. The only thing you can objectively give Kyrie over Iverson is that he is a much better three-point shooter. Everything else I would give to Iverson, including handles. Kyrie might be more flashy, but Iverson could get to anywhere he wanted on the court at any-time. Iverson was also more athletic than Kyrie, plus he had a higher motor. Kyrie's finishing is pretty incredible, especially with his off-hand, but Iverson was also a beast at finishing difficult shots in the painted area.
Nostalgic Bliss Iverson isn't close to irvings efficiency, and u say big man camp down there acting like the 3 second rule is a new rule. Kyrie is a better shooter, finisher, ball handler by large margins. AI happened to play in a weaker era where there wasn't much talent. AI also didn't win anything when he was on a good team in denver
Kendrick Lamar Kyrie been that nigga since he.came into the league he was putting up big ass stats without LeBron but when LeBron came back y'all saying the only reason Kyrie good is because of LeBron hell no this man is one of the best finishers of all time don't forget his career high is 57 remember that
Can Kyrie: Cross MJ Average 24ppg in rookie season average 33ppg at 30 Carry a trash team to the finals in the hardest era of basketball. Be 6'0" 155 and dominate. Kyrie is a legend but A.I is pure gold.
steals are not a measure of good defense in fact most of them are by guards who are terrible defenders who just roam around because they can't guard their own position and occasionaly pick off a pass
Um Yeah Javale McGee is a perfect example. Horrible rim protector but really good shot blocker. Can't guard the pick and roll and gets dominated by strong players but gets a lot of blocks.
Max making sense. Wtf. lol. Don't forget Ai is more athletic, much faster, and is more agile than kyrie. Kyrie has better handles because handles have since evolved since AI, but that's pretty much it.
Ultimate gamer assassin yea but on offense Irving can depend on other people to take the shooting load while Iverson just couldn't. The whole team was centered around Iverson which is why he took the most shots, missed a lot and made a lot. When you have other good scorers like Irving than ofc the shooting percentage is gonna be better because he isn't shooting on every offensive possession like iverson had to.
Kyrie lead his team to get Andrew Wiggins. Don't disprespect ai bringing this kyrie bs. Not even on same planet. One was a lion the other needed the lion to be able to eat.
Iverson had the ability to embarrass a player like no one else. Kyrie is ok. Imagine Russel Westbrook toughness and speed with kyrie handles and an unguardable crossover. Remember they made AI change his dribble saying it was a carry. When rules are examined or changed because of a player, they are special.
Nobody compares to AI. I miss his presence on the court. AI played injured with a subpar team. He'd never sit out. He had more heart than KI and KD combined. 🏀💯🏀
Well ur wrong ! What skill u talking about ? Be specific and I'll prove u wrong. Handles with cross over iverson , taking in the paint vs big trees back then where u could actually get hit and not get a foul , speed , steals all of this goes to the goat of little man Allen Iverson !! Irvning is just better at shooting 3s that's all everything else goes to GOAT OF LITTLE MAN IVERSON ! I watched him at gorge town and his whole career !
Hand checking riles were revamped in 2004 so A.I played most of his career with rules that had the odds stacked against him. He wasnt allowed to just March to the basket. Iverson is 2nd in playoff pts per game with 29.7 only bested by MJ. Basketball is a 2 way game offense and defense. A.I led the league 3 yrs in steals. Not bc he was a good on ball defender but bc he picked pass lanes. He read plays and predicted flow. He was better offensive, defensive and mental. No question just THE ANSWER!!!! #3 Straight Killer!!!!
He didn't just "play" the passing lanes, was like an NFL corner. You couldn't even attempt a pass in his direction because he was taking it back the other way for a bucket. Do u know how disruptive that is to a team's offense?
have you ever played basketball? playing the lanes gets you 2 steals a game big whoop. playing defense is straight up guarding a man which AI couldn't do BC of size. I don't even see the reason for playing the passing lanes. you get maybe 1 or 2 steals which doesn't show real d
Don't let the Warriors blowing a 3-1 lead distract you from the fact, KD and the Thunder blew a 3-1 lead to the Warriors before the Warriors blew their own 3-1 lead.
To quote the great Kobe Bean Bryant, “We should all be fortunate Allen Iverson wasn’t 6’5” “
@James Darmor giannis is damn near 7 feet and can dribble I'm pretty sure iverson would've been a goat at 6'5
@James Darmor You sound dumb as hell
@James Darmor He's not going to lose that crazy agility, except for with age. It's AI, but taller. He'll look like Richard Hamilton out there and more finishes above the rim. Even longer strides than he had won't make him less agile.
@James Darmor it's simple math really. The loss in agility and speed that would come with the increased height would easily be shadowed by how much easier it would be to score for him and how much better he'd be on D
@James Darmor actually depends on if he would put in the effort to be in shape and work on his agility and increase his speed you're clearly out of shape irl
Kyrie is that boy but he is not The Answer
perfect way to put it
Well said!
Anthony Jackson nor is he the question...
Facts
Anthony Jackson yes he is the answer n yes he is better than AI, period 😳
KD still mad about that time that Iverson took his ankles when he played for the sonics
Armen Breezy 😂😂😂😭😭😭😭
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Yes I’m sure getting crossed during the beginning of his career well over a decade ago is burning in his brain
Dre Truth a dude like KD .....it is 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I still take AI because I've never seen kyrie by himself carry his team to the finals
NAS NAS AI didn't go to tHe finals in His rookie year dun
Leo Quintana this is the most autistic and biased comment i have ever seen
Leo Quintana kyrie was not a rookie when LeBron joined b
NAS NAS Same KD did really look at the history he just looked at the handling and skill which you can give him that but everything else no.
NAS NAS AI had the DPOY, the 6MOY, the COTY. He didn't do it "himself."
Ask Tyronn Lue.
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Durant is smoking dry ice cubes if he thinks Kyrie is better than Iverson. Done won a chip and already losing his mind
😂😂😂💀💀dry ice cubes
He isnt even better than Iverson, he has just had the better career.
QUENTIN30 CDUB I thought he was already smoking dry ice cubes
The Answer is Iverson
James G Well said. Lol
Put down Iverson under every question on a test and you're gauranteed to get 100
Kyrie is really good this season, kyrie hasn't played long like Allen, so it will take time.
Toronto James Man I played you in 2k17 thou suck my nigga
Yea im a boston fan but jeezus Allen was a once in a lifetime. No one ompares
Kyrie is an amazing player with superstar skills but Iverson was on a completely different level. I don't see Kyrie or any point guard ever doing what Iverson did in 2001 where he, at barely 6'0 and 170 pounds, led a garbage team all the way to the finals and still find a way to win at least one game.
Iverson was a 4x scoring champion. The only guy under 6'1 to have over 20,000 career points. Won league MVP over guys like O'Neal, Duncan, Kobe, Garnett all in their prime. That's not a knock against Kyrie or any other point guard. Iverson was just special.
@bojo perez kyrie can never be mvp or a scoring champ max is right kyrie is just a great iso shooter thats it
@@lomoney4008 Kyrie's problem is that he pounds the ball incessantly, running time off of the clock until he makes his move. He seems to often be on the court by himself, in his mind, until he reaches a point where he has no choice but to dump it off to his teammates with little time left take a decent shot. At the same time he makes some amazing shots at the rim against multiple defenders, so he's is at least entertaining.
More skill is different than better player. See y’all change the argument/topic. Point is skills for skills not better player
Renzy Wenzy and I love Kyrie (that Finals shot was legendary) but Iverson didn’t need a Lebron and another All-Star player to get to the Finals in the first place. Put a whole city on his back for a decade+... pound for pound inch for inch a true 🐐 and Legend in the game of basketball
ss mano tem toda a razão allan iverson é foda, represento o brasil dizendo isso.
Irving is a Beast 👹!
But A.I. is one of the GOATS!!
@@truzzprod.8191 dont worry he trippin
@Gary Thompson I bet you don't even understand what you mean
How
Biiig facts
your right
Can Kyrie:
1 Cross Jordan
2 Score 50 in ROOKIE year
3 Make it to the finals by HIMSELF(no LeBron)
4 Defeat Shaq and Kobe by HIMSELF
5 So put back dunks
6 Who dropped more people
7 Who wanted the head band and arm/leg sleeve b4 AI(NOBODY)
Allen Iverson>Kyrie Irving
Defensive player of the year
4 scoring titles
LET ME SHUT UP!!!!
@Domo Jones Bruh, you ain't never lied.
Kyrie had a team that took Lebron to 7 games in the ECF without him, and couldn't get them past round 2.
AI got a game against Shaq & Kobe with Dikembe and...🤔🤷♂️
How is this even a debate?
No ring
Russell Westbrook can ai hit a game winning 3 point shot under pressure in an iso 1v1 against Steph curry in a nba finals game 7? Kyrie>ai
Hurley Gonzalez Easily.
Iverson> Kyrie Irving
Lol u play roblox
@@dotasterisk well he’s right tho
Kyrie is one of my favorite players but they're right AI was a different animal.
Lakers Fan Kyrie doesnt have A.I.'s heart
I mean kyrie has lots of heart and passion but true AI took one of the worst teams to the finals and never gave up. He's one of the greatest ever
"I need to add nothing else 😂😂
Ifare Nass lmao
Loved it
A.I got more heart than KD & Kyrie put together. 💯
Too easy.
You can add LeBron to that and AI still has more heart than those 3. Better defender than those 3, lead the league in steals. They keep saying LeBron carries his team, AI carried more weight than LeBron ever has.
@@docj7631 now im not trying to start no debates or nothing but lebron carried the hell outta the cavs in 2018
Still zero rings. Sure, he carried the Sixers to the finals but that's the exact thing y'all knock LeBron for. Y'all keep pointing to his 6 finals losses whenever somebody brings up a comparison vs MJ
@@anormalfacedguy8251 but still AI easter conference was tougher than lebrons east
Allen Iverson was an absolute offensive GOD. Im telling you he could not be stopped. Kyrie is REALLY good don't get me wrong, but Iverson was absolutely ABSURD.
SedaW LoL A GOD indeed. AI was just filthy.
SedaW LoL real talk defense couldn't check A.I on any level. Nigga A.I was a automatic bucket back in his days. I bet if A.I was in game 3 where cavs didn't score for the final 3 minutes of the game, they would've won .
Not to mention he put his body on the line and hustled every play. Might not have been a lock down defensive player but if you got lazy he could strip you quick
"automatic bucket"
"could not be stopped"
Yet his field goal % was complete ass... Iverson fans... I tell you... 😂
Not even a comparison, AI is one of the all time greats.
Kyrie will surpass him. AI not even a top 10 pguard of all time.
Dr Manhattan u right 'cause he a SG lmao, he the 3rd best SG ever, don't @ me
@@tord2354
1.MJ
2. Kobe
3. Wade
4. McGrady
5. Iverson
@@tyronejohnsonjr4261 That is blasphemous! - Steven A. Smith.
@@tord2354 which part😂
🚫STOP IT!Allen Iverson's PUPPETRY concerning SKILLS, FORCED the NBA to "INSTALL MERCY RULES" because A.I HANDLES and Iverson was a BETTER SCORER!Tmac,Kobe maybe better offensively but IVERSON IS A TOP TEN OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF ALL TIME AND MAYBE 1ST UNDER 6 FEET TALL!BLASPHEMY!This Man STANDS 7th ALL TIME PPG AVG!
@adam brown debating about AI is hard, either you think he is god tier, like the original comment by Kyza Sose, or they're like you, who downplay how good AI actually was. Pure offense skill wise, he might be one of the best ever. His impact is highly dampened by his height though, he was not even 6 ft, and he had a bad attitude, never got better. He can never be mentioned with the GOATs because of that. A 6'6" Iverson would probably son almost anyone.
@adam brown your list is all fucked up and wrong
@adam brown He's talking points per game, in which AI is top 10 all-time.
I’m gonna go out on a limb here and guess you like Allen Iverson a little bit???
Iverson carried a shit team to THE NBA FINALS, Irving couldn't take Cavs even to the Playoff. Dont disrespect the Answer like that
Samo Lajf
Yup, and the east was relatively competitive back then.
Samo Lajf Shit team? He had the DPOY, 6MOTY, and COTY. FOH
Sid Barrett dikembe was 34 and had no offensive skill Aaron mckie was their second best player
Ray Lew But he was defensive player of the year though. Kyrie was basically by himself on a bad team from year 1-3 at age 19-21. AI had 1 playoff team in his 1st 3 years in a lockout season in which the team went 22-28. AI didnt have a decent record until his 4th year and his 5th was when they went to the Finals, at the age of 25. Kyrie is more skilled than AI.
Allen Iverson and Detroit Isiah Thomas best small guards EVER
EIH Zeke curry
ave383 curry 6'3, iverson 5'11 1/2 and Isiah 6'1...SMALL GAURDS he said
ave383 Curry is 6'4 dude. C'mon man. And Curry isn't better than those two. Not until I see him get a Finals MVP
EIH Zeke 💯
kendall mallett curry is better than ai bro lol
Iverson was more dominant. In terms of natural talent, Iverson was a rare bird.
When you consider strictly skill set, forget team accomplishments etc. When you consider the disadvantages Iverson faced when all defenders were taller and stronger (Iverson 6'0 165lbs) and the fact he had no one else to rely on, a very good argument can be made that Iverson is one of the greatest basketball players of all time! Now he has no rings so he will not be mentioned with Jordan and Kobe etc, but looking at strictly skill set, Iverson is as good as any other basketball player to have ever played. If you never got to see that man play, youtube him and sit back and enjoy!
People respect AI as if he did win
Clive Clivington he went to the finals with one of the worst rosters ever, and the second worst roster to be in the finals first LeBron on the old cavs. AI made the finals against the Lakers where he was murdering their whole team. Kobe could not guard him and kobe is one of the most toughest defenders of all time. AI was getting triple teamed by ppl all over 6'5 and he's 5'11 I don't even see kyrie getting doubled ever unless he's crazy hot. AI gets doubled first play of the game as soon as the ball touches his hands and he still socres.
Carmelo Anthony preaching to the choir
Ryan Petley perfectly said
Karpov Liam Kyrie isn't a ball hog. Truth. AI was a ball hog because he had to be. Aside from the 6th man of the year and the DEFENSIVE player of the year, who else did he have to pass to? And even if he did have teammates, he played against the best one two punch EVER, and stole a game in the finals when no one expected them to even get there, giving them their only loss of that entire playoff run.
Allen Iverson was tough and pound for pound the best shooting guard of all time. This is coming from a Pacer fan.
KiD 504# lol
JGrifFs p4p is a term for smaller guys Jordan was 6'6 215 p4p don't really apply for him AI is like 5'11 160 scoring over 7 footers
@@RealZiggy2Real p4p as in pound for pound?
A.i was a PG! He played like a SG.
Even though i like A.I, T-mac is the best shooting guard of all time 😏
I miss those days. AI is the last player that comes to mind that virtually every kid wanted to emulate. Be it the generational handles or the do it all attitude. The small stature or the start to stop quickness. There was something relatable yet other worldly about him. It's different with a LeBron, Shaq, etc because most kids knew they weren't going to grow up being 6'8+ athletic anomalies.
Joshua Welch steph curry is literally that now
@Jack park 5'9 is actually average height
No comparison. But put A.I in Kyrie's place this year and you get a series. PERIOD.
kendall mallett no It isn't 😂😂😂😂 stop lying to urself Ai good but not dat good
Trayvon Etienne You must not know A. I I'm talking bout the A. I that took a game from Kobe and SHAQ. the A.I that was the only good offensive player they had. He would score the fucking ball in the last 3 minutes of a damn playoff game. simple.
Trayvon Etienne you crazy as fuck if you think A.I. isn't that good.
kendall mallett Kyrie averaged 29 points, how much better can Iverson play lmao and Iverson never played vs pgs this good
kendall mallett and u do realize AI was on a Denver nuggets team that was good and they couldn't even make the finals right?????
Durant gets one ring and starts talking crazy. Tell that man to stay in his lane
Capo Gainz top 2 player in the world has the right to say whatever lmao
d pee mannnn F KD. Damn coward
Capo Gainz kd is gonna go down as one of the greatest. 4 time scoring champ youngest to ever won a scoring title an mvp a finals mvp and kd still in prime
wontoonaki Rose is the youngest MVP in nba history
wontoonaki and i think kawhi is the youngest to win a finals mvp or magic im not sure
Iverson was only 5 foot11 and was under 185.Let the great Iverson live on my dude.
He's 6'0ft .
AI was 6'1 150lbs
He’s 6 foot even
AI had the heart of a lion no comparison
KD spoke only in terms of individual skills. Clearly A.I was more effective with the skills he had, but KD was right in saying Kyrie has more skills than him. It's just how it is. You can have all the skills in the world, but if you can't win like A.I you can't be greater. But you can be better.
Entertainment Attorney I hear you. A.I. is my favorite player of all time but Kyrie is my current favorite player and I'm from Jersey. So it's all love. I just consider heart an intangible skill
Kyrie has mamba mentality too but he's not that good as the leader.
So Kyrie doesn't have heart?
sib Kyrie is that guy that knows all the tricks but Iverson just balled. Iverson had better stamina, speed, quickness, verticle, 1st step, decision making, better passer, and played the passing lanes better
If you werent alive during Iversons MVP season, you aren't allowed to have an opinion.
InitialXG but I watch all of iversons games he is the reason I like basketball.
InitialXG facts too many kids born post 2005 in the comments
I was alive but very young born in 1996 and In my opinion Iverson is head and shoulders better than kyrie I wish the cavs had AI in his prime currently I do not want to see the warriors win anymore chips
Max: I completely agree with Stephen A.
Stephen A: Well, you’re wrong and let me tell you why...
100%... iverson didn't have anything to work with.. and the league was much more physical back then, the league is softer now plus ball handlers can take an extra step now too
Idk Man tf niggas act like traveling cuz became a thing .... n u gon act like at 1 point da league didn't let Ai carry da ball
john wall is faster then both of them
hell yeah a.i. was a tough sob. he use to get battered goin to the rim. i'm surprised he played that long.
stonedcold john wall is faster than both of them
Dusty Bones ray allens bucks, Vince carter raptors, Paul pierce Celtics, Tmac magic, Jason Kidd nets... east is weak as fuck right now not back then
Iverson is a top 4-5 SG of all time. Irving isn't even a top 10 PG of all time. There's no chance in hell.
SSA INVINCIBLEx Irving aint even top 5 PG right now
SSA INVINCIBLEx Kyrie only 25 tho
Kyrie will always have a ring while Iverson while remain ringless
25 years old idiots
Tommy Williams Doesn't matter. Doesn't change the fact he doesn't play defense and he's not a great playmaker. 25-28 Is usually a player's best years and I don't see him making any huge jump within that time that'll put him in the same sentence as Iverson. Not to mention his durability isn't all that great either.
Iverson literally carried his team night in night out dude was the Answer
Put some "SPECK" on Allen Iverson name......stop playing with me.
I like that 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
Adam Silver ordered a drug test on KD after this comment.
AI was one of the most exciting players I have EVER watched!! He took a group of team mates that had no business in the playoffs let alone to the finals and took a game from Kobe and Shaq's lakers!! If you put AI in those days with a decent team or a for real number two then he might have won a finals or got there alot, Iverson was special to watch he was a lil dude but thought he was ten feet tall with just pure guts, heart & no fear!!
Iverson is the 🐐 idk wtf the cupcake is talking about
True watch our last video on him. One of his greatest stories of all time
Listen A.I is my fav, but he ain’t the 🐐 that’s Jordan’s, but he is the mini 🐐 for sure. There’s no one under 6’3 better than him.
Ken T what about steph Curry
kyrie is showing this year he may perhaps the best guard to ever play the game. His command of the dribble tp get anywhere he wants against whomever checks him is very kobeish. Kyrie has built his body up and is hard to knock iff his spot. AI could be moved and certainly didnt have a postgame like kyrie. kyrie has a jumper that is deadly off the dribble and standing still. AI worked hard to get buckets while Kyrie has a rounded game and uses intellect and assessing the game to get easier buckets with less energy. Both have that dog in them. I do believe kyrie is a better playmaker than AI as well simply watch his team USA highlights. He was the best by far on thr offensivr side plsying 1 on 5 against the best NBA talent in the world. kyrie can articulate himself like a statesman. Certainly not your typical athlete interview hes introspective, exposed. a delight to litsen and watch. Only 25 years old with a chip.
Justin McNair stfu
I think kyrie has more skills but Allen utilizes his set of skills WAAAAAY better than kyrie ever could. Mentally Iverson is out of kyrie's stratosphere.
Mentally, Kyrie is stuck on flat earth
Hell naw bra watch a i
Lmao how does he utilize it more when he's never been as efficient as kyrie?
Top 5 Prodigy #89-93 ummm Kyrie has NEVER been that much more efficient and has NEVER singlehandedly led ANY team to a Finals. Not to mention drop 40 plus on supposed 2nd greatest SG either.
Top 5 Prodigy #89-93 If AI played with Lebron, we already know what would happen. No words need to be wasted lol. Put Kyrie on the 76ers of 01', are they going to the playoffs? How bout the finals? Yea, I didn't think so either.
Iverson's heart and determination is 10 times more than Kyrie and Durant combined.
I'm young and I know kyrie isn't even close to AI atleast not now. Please watch he's MVP season Jesus Christ
EIH Zeke L
EIH Zeke AI MVP he didn't even shoot 50% in that season
Not now not ever
who cares
Overall game, no. Just handles and layups.
Hell no, Kyrie is like Iverson son
Yea kinda
ur on drugs
isn't that still being better tho??
BeasTGoD gaming I'm a OKC fan but Westbrook is overrated
Nick Gladding ur on crack he overrated because ur pathetic team has a lousy bench that can't hold a lead. was u calling him overrated with all them 4th quarter comebacks?
It's not even close, AI led his team to the finals , Kyrie still haven't did so. He had a shot in Boston but couldn't do it. But AI did, O and by the way Kyrie has not even been in a MVP race but AI has and won.
Kyrie never made a nigga fall 2wice lmao
lol. he damn sure did
Who was it? Lol
yabiggirl 60thSt Antonio Daniels lmao
Brandon Knight rising stars game
drc pharaoh 2 times in one possession?
Let's just put it like this, the Cleveland Cavaliers would be standing here as 3 time world champions had Iverson & LeBron both played on the same team
Frenchy Blaxk Yep that team would have been nasty lol.
thebeast12333 I was gonna write the same thing.
Frenchy Blaxk nope
Give Kyrie credit though, if it weren't for him, GSW would've had a 3-peat. We all know Lebron wasn't gonna take that last shot in Game 7 last year. Also, Kyrie was robbed of that Finals MVP last year.
Iverson wouldn't have put up with Bron-Bron's insecurities and they would've clashed.
What Stephen A said is probably why Kyrie left Cleveland lol
Adam D I thought that too.
skillset = even
carrying a team = AI
accomplishments = AI
Vincent Carter Heart = AI
Kyrie has a 💍
It dont matter he never had the help Kyrie has, clown, he still on another level.
Vincent Carter u drunk too...lol
Kyrie would never be able to do what a.i did with the lack of talent around him. Let alone the level of difficulty of the team's a.i had to face.
KD...wrong answer my friend...
He couldn’t hold a candle to A.i .
KD was just trying to be nice since he robbed the LavaLiers of any chance at championship gold. But the truth is past all those fancy handles and decent layup package, he ain't shit compared to AI. He stole a Finals game from Shaq and Kobe by himself. Kyrie can't even steal a regular season game against the Pistons without LeBron.
Yo Mammas Boo excuses. If lebron is the greatest and kyrie better than curry and love better than Draymond and korver is an all-star who ranks number 7 on all time 3 pointers made and Cleveland broke the three point made record in the finals with jr swish hitting five 3s then you have no excuse.
ave383 Excuses about what? Kyrie is overrated....sure he has handles and a shot. Is he a leader...nope...consistently healthy... not really......known for not dissapearing in a crucial game ....shiiiiiii@...he's Waldo sometimes.
Yo Mammas Boo decent?!?!?!?!?! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yo Mammas Boo are you a larriors fan
I think AI better but decent lay up package tho
I agree AI is the better player!
The answer is the ANSWER
KD must really hate Iverson to say that bullshit!
he talking shit cause he feeling himself right now
Yeah, A. I was a leader. KD pulling some Eric Snow type of ish.
The answer is the answer
Can't even question it
4 years later and Kyrie still doesn’t even compare to Allen iverson. Greatest p4p player arguably ever & will always be a top 5 guard ever no matter how you look at it. Straight up
AI is better but I still respect Kyrie
if A.I. played in today's nba we wouldn't be talking about how much better K.I. is than A.I. K.I. plays in a league were you can't touch them when they shoot or block shots in the paint like they use to haha A.I. was a better shooter better ball handler better finisher better all around talent you can say what you want about shooting percentage but A.I. took contested shots most of his career at 5'11 not 6ft
David Bermea and the thing with a.i. is that he still got up
Better finisher? Ehh
i'd even give kyrie the better ball handling, AI had the sick crossovers but it was his speed that made it deadly. Kyries handles are so intricate and smooth and quick...but dont get me wrong I think AI was definitely a better player because of his mentality. cocky muthafucker who knew he was the man and proved it every night
Iverson was also a much better playmaker than Kyrie is, maybe the handles alone goes to Kyrie but Iverson’s speed along with his handles made his handles much more deadly like Sam said. Kyrie doesn’t have shit on Iverson. Great player but not on the level that Iverson was, undisputed
Sam Delagrange yes Iverson no comparison hr better than Kyrie Irving he has a bigger heart more Killer Instinct.
When you say Golden State, KD is not even the first player you'll think of.
not even 2nd
Kyrie over Iverson? 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂. Durant what u smoking?
Bruh KD just saying this cuz he wanted to team up with Irving somewhere.
This aged well
haha lol
@@j.madelozo8222 TOO well
The answer
Noo way. AI a legend... Kd, played against him when he was on his farewell tour..
I hope LBJ leaves so everyone can see that Kyrie can't get to the playoffs. Kyrie's not even a top 5 current point guard. AI is a legend.
gullintanni Kyrie is tHe best PG in tHe NBA. No one can name a more skilled player. Simple
gullintanni that's not the point bro it's Kevin Durant opinion he can't have an opinion to him he's better than Allen Iverson that's all he's saying
Leo Quintana your dumb
I'm with you! Kyrie is a stud but if Bron leaves, he'll never play in another finals game! FACTS!! I would love to see him play off the ball more and be more of a facilitator. I watched him his entire career and he's not a treat if the ball isn't in his hands.
Leo Quintana Kyrie is not the best PG in the league...skill is not the end all be all of that argument.
We will see if Kyrie can lead a team like AI now.
One In Common he has....look how far the Celtics have gotten with Kyrie
Jon Infante they're making the ecf without kyrie the Celtics success is because of brad Stevens not kyrie
Kevin Riddell the coach and the players. The teams chemistry is crazy good. But most of the credit does go to brad but let’s not forget about the players. They have hell of potential
Jon Infante
look how far they have gone without kyrie
Maybe one day....but come on, it's AI!
it is true that Kyrie is more skilled but AI had Westbrook-like energy reserves on top of being quicker, faster and a lot more consistent. Easily more valuable player
Random Palmtop Gaming well, AI's crossover is better skill than Kyrie's skill
A.I dragged his team to the finals and gave the lakers their only loss and stopped them from going undefeated as the only team but nah. A.I came and lit up the first game while handling players like shaw knocking him down.
How the hell are you gunna say kyrie is better than AI in anything? When Lebron gets benched for 2 minutes the cavs go down by 15 damn points. Kyrie can't do shit Lebron makes him look better.
Kendrick Lamar kyrie is WAY more efficient
Yes because Kyrie has two All Stars on his team, one of them is a top 4 player of all time. It is easier for Kyrie when the defense has to focus on those guys too. AI was pretty much the only one that could score by himself on this Sixers team.
AI is a bit inefficient? Yes, but put Kyrie on this Sixers team and see how the numbers get worse...
Kyrie is also playing in an era where the big-man can't camp in the paint like in the past. Plus you can't hand-check or be as physical on defense.
Go look at Iverson's efficiency when he played with Melo in Denver in like 06-08. He was still scoring over 26 points on pretty good efficiency at like 31-32 years old.
If prime Iverson played in this era, he'd still average 28 + on better efficiency, especially if he had great offensive talents on his team to take some of the pressure of.
The only thing you can objectively give Kyrie over Iverson is that he is a much better three-point shooter. Everything else I would give to Iverson, including handles.
Kyrie might be more flashy, but Iverson could get to anywhere he wanted on the court at any-time. Iverson was also more athletic than Kyrie, plus he had a higher motor.
Kyrie's finishing is pretty incredible, especially with his off-hand, but Iverson was also a beast at finishing difficult shots in the painted area.
Nostalgic Bliss Iverson isn't close to irvings efficiency, and u say big man camp down there acting like the 3 second rule is a new rule. Kyrie is a better shooter, finisher, ball handler by large margins. AI happened to play in a weaker era where there wasn't much talent. AI also didn't win anything when he was on a good team in denver
Kendrick Lamar Kyrie been that nigga since he.came into the league he was putting up big ass stats without LeBron but when LeBron came back y'all saying the only reason Kyrie good is because of LeBron hell no this man is one of the best finishers of all time don't forget his career high is 57 remember that
Can we just have a moment and thank God Allen Iverson wasn't 6'5.....
Change his name from answer to problem cause that's what he would be against everyone else
Can Kyrie:
Cross MJ
Average 24ppg in rookie season
average 33ppg at 30
Carry a trash team to the finals in the hardest era of basketball.
Be 6'0" 155 and dominate.
Kyrie is a legend but A.I is pure gold.
A.I is much greater defender than kyrie ... A.I lead NBA in steals
steals are not a measure of good defense in fact most of them are by guards who are terrible defenders who just roam around because they can't guard their own position and occasionaly pick off a pass
jordan michael his defense was overrated not going to lie he plays okay defense
Seth Curry Yeah, that's why he won DPOY
Mr Charles Green Just like blocks are bad for centers that just roam the paint?
Um Yeah Javale McGee is a perfect example. Horrible rim protector but really good shot blocker. Can't guard the pick and roll and gets dominated by strong players but gets a lot of blocks.
So disrespectful.
A.i. is better .end of discussion
No one compares to A.I. KD, just stop. Don't embarrass yourself like this!
Skill set wise yes... but Iversons heart is what separates him from Kyrie
Max making sense. Wtf. lol. Don't forget Ai is more athletic, much faster, and is more agile than kyrie. Kyrie has better handles because handles have since evolved since AI, but that's pretty much it.
Kyrie has flashier handles, but AI's handles were just as good. Iverson has the best crossover of all time
Mari E Since AI and BECAUSE of AI
Mari E better shooter as well let’s not forget the most important part of the offensive side efficiency
ben1ben2ben1 no
Ultimate gamer assassin yea but on offense Irving can depend on other people to take the shooting load while Iverson just couldn't. The whole team was centered around Iverson which is why he took the most shots, missed a lot and made a lot. When you have other good scorers like Irving than ofc the shooting percentage is gonna be better because he isn't shooting on every offensive possession like iverson had to.
He clearly said skill wise not better career or player
Whats funny is kyrie went to the celtics as the leader and failed miserably! Revolotionary vs good player in his era!!! Checkmate💥
KD has been taking a lot of of L's lately. He is approaching Meek Mill status
“I need to add nothing else, we’re good.” - Stephen A. 🤣😂😂🤣
He did not say he was better. He said he is more skilled there is a difference
allen iverson is the best pound for pound player of all time👏🏽
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Matt has gotten much better. Hats off to both analysts well said.
Durant must've been geeked up on something when he made those borderline ridiculous comments
*Don't get distracted* by the fact that before both of them actually stated their arguments, *They Both agreed what Kevin Durant said was factual....*
Kyrie lead his team to get Andrew Wiggins. Don't disprespect ai bringing this kyrie bs. Not even on same planet. One was a lion the other needed the lion to be able to eat.
Sergio Hernandez top comment all facts
Iverson had the ability to embarrass a player like no one else. Kyrie is ok. Imagine Russel Westbrook toughness and speed with kyrie handles and an unguardable crossover. Remember they made AI change his dribble saying it was a carry. When rules are examined or changed because of a player, they are special.
Theres only one way to settle this! Lets get a time machine and have 2001 AI in his prime vs 2017 Kyrie and have them go 1-1 and we will see
@ace- and than step ova him like he did his coach in the finals
johnwazher3 iverson had better defense and was way more athletic so of course AI would win.
johnwazher3 AI would just take open layups and dunks cause kyrie gonna be on the other end of the floor waiting to get the ball.
let's not forget steals leader
*Don't get distracted* by the fact that before both of them actually stated their arguments, *They Both agreed what Kevin Durant said was factual....*
Debateble was what was said or "an argument can be made"
Nobody compares to AI. I miss his presence on the court. AI played injured with a subpar team. He'd never sit out. He had more heart than KI and KD combined. 🏀💯🏀
You know what Stephan A gonna say 😂
AI is the homie
mindalteringfx He'll never hide his bias in regards to Allen Iverson
mindalteringfx Stephen a ain't wrong though
True...I'm just saying...AI the man
Iverson carried a team to the finals
That 2001 Raptors Sixers series is what made me fall in love with the NBA.
how about curry and klay leave golden st. can Durant won title again
of course not
no kd is never gonna lead a team
Not even klay just curry he won’t ever see another ring ever
Robert Payams they’re playing well without him in the playoffs now. Rockets are a tough one though. I think winner of the West takes it all.
Bruh why y'all Sleeping on draymond
kyrie is more skilled, but AI was more dominant.. that's what i think anyway.
Well ur wrong ! What skill u talking about ? Be specific and I'll prove u wrong. Handles with cross over iverson , taking in the paint vs big trees back then where u could actually get hit and not get a foul , speed , steals all of this goes to the goat of little man Allen Iverson !! Irvning is just better at shooting 3s that's all everything else goes to GOAT OF LITTLE MAN IVERSON ! I watched him at gorge town and his whole career !
Hand checking riles were revamped in 2004 so A.I played most of his career with rules that had the odds stacked against him. He wasnt allowed to just March to the basket. Iverson is 2nd in playoff pts per game with 29.7 only bested by MJ. Basketball is a 2 way game offense and defense. A.I led the league 3 yrs in steals. Not bc he was a good on ball defender but bc he picked pass lanes. He read plays and predicted flow. He was better offensive, defensive and mental. No question just THE ANSWER!!!! #3 Straight Killer!!!!
Playing the passing lanes is defense you fools
Chris Brown not really
Noooooooo........it's not actually!!!
Not if that's not the game plan...
He didn't just "play" the passing lanes, was like an NFL corner. You couldn't even attempt a pass in his direction because he was taking it back the other way for a bucket. Do u know how disruptive that is to a team's offense?
have you ever played basketball? playing the lanes gets you 2 steals a game big whoop. playing defense is straight up guarding a man which AI couldn't do BC of size. I don't even see the reason for playing the passing lanes. you get maybe 1 or 2 steals which doesn't show real d
ohhhhhhh, so this is why he went to the celtics
Bro he doesn't. After checking some old AI highlights, it's really no comp. It's crazy. He dunked on VC bro.... VINCE CARTER
AI carried a bunch of bums to the finals
i fuck with kd but what kind of blasphemy is this ?!
He a champion and he was the reason they won the chip that year finals MVP hater!
don't let KD distract you from the fact that the Warriors blew a 3-1 lead :D
Dan Han Didn't blow a lead. Got cheated out of a lead.
Don't let the Warriors blowing a 3-1 lead distract you from the fact, KD and the Thunder blew a 3-1 lead to the Warriors before the Warriors blew their own 3-1 lead.
*Don't get distracted* by the fact that before both of them actually stated their arguments, *They Both agreed what Kevin Durant said was factual....*