Kendrick Lamar & The Weeknd Sued Over "Pray for Me"

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  • Опубликовано: 25 фев 2020
  • The lawsuit: www.scribd.com/document/44866...
    Yeasayer - "Sunrise"
    • Yeasayer- Sunrise
    The Weeknd & Kendrick Lamar - "Pray for Me"
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  • @lukeross2227
    @lukeross2227 4 года назад +1666

    2019: Band breaks up
    2020: band Sues kendrick Lamar
    Clout

    • @AxxLAfriku
      @AxxLAfriku 4 года назад +20

      ATTENTION BROTHER!!! I have two very very hot and big RUclipsr girlfriends who I show off (I smell like 100 de*d orangutans oh nooo)! Thank you for you attention, dear dude kid luke

    • @nathanburnett9529
      @nathanburnett9529 4 года назад +49

      AxxL clout

    • @ConarsLIFE
      @ConarsLIFE 4 года назад +2

      stonks

    • @russiasvechenaya58
      @russiasvechenaya58 4 года назад +9

      Weeknd has more clout than Kendrick sooooo.....

    • @brandonayong752
      @brandonayong752 4 года назад +1

      Who that chaser thinking that he's fronting on ? Man Man
      Get the fuck out my page I'm the court man

  • @aleupms
    @aleupms 4 года назад +2625

    i am suing melon for kidnapping all my opinions and holding them hostage

  • @LauknezMonsta
    @LauknezMonsta 4 года назад +1446

    Let’s agree: The Beatles ripped off Lil Xan

  • @user-oe4rr6jb4q
    @user-oe4rr6jb4q 4 года назад +2423

    anthony wtf is a Yeasayer

    • @bazzmusic4952
      @bazzmusic4952 4 года назад +200

      Probably something vegan

    • @KoRnBrony
      @KoRnBrony 4 года назад +80

      People who dont like MBDTF

    • @jakegraham3758
      @jakegraham3758 4 года назад +36

      People who like Jesus is king but no other ye album

    • @smashfam1
      @smashfam1 4 года назад

      kid detected

    • @BassistBob81
      @BassistBob81 4 года назад +15

      The opposite of a Naysayer?

  • @jizag0716
    @jizag0716 4 года назад +1288

    I thought that sound was just like African chants or something you can hear more similar to that throughout the album

    • @Dinnerthedaythebanksareopen
      @Dinnerthedaythebanksareopen 4 года назад +315

      It is lol. The sound is a celebratory sound that Africans and Arabs make on special occasions. It's not a sample lol. The Weeknd is Ethiopian and I'm pretty certain he put that in the track as a homage to his African roots. The two songs don't sound anything alike.

    • @jizag0716
      @jizag0716 4 года назад +55

      Valerie Tesfaye yea definitely fit the aesthetic they were going for with the album and it matched well with the movie

    • @ErikGiovani
      @ErikGiovani 4 года назад +73

      Valerie Tesfaye it’s actually from Ludwig Goranson putting African stuff all over the album, The Weeknd dgaf

    • @pan-semitistcommunist4181
      @pan-semitistcommunist4181 4 года назад +12

      @@Dinnerthedaythebanksareopen ululating, my family does it constantly 😂

    • @pan-semitistcommunist4181
      @pan-semitistcommunist4181 4 года назад +37

      @@ErikGiovani he speaks Amharic all the time on his albums so i wouldn't say he "dgaf"

  • @malarkeyhere
    @malarkeyhere 4 года назад +543

    I'm not a musician but I'm Ethiopian/Eritrean and that chant is a common chant made by Eritrean/Ethiopian women during celebrations. It sounds a bit like "EL'EL'EL". Given the fact that the Black Panther soundtrack was inspired by African culture and music, I'm pretty sure that's what that sound is. that's sound is also present in other cultures, recently Shakira was being made fun of for doing that celebration chant during the Superbowl. And Able uses references to Ethiopian culture more than people would think. Like in "The Hills" at the end there is a voice that sings "yene konjo" which in Amharic means my love. so I'm pretty sure there is no basis for copyright infringement here.

    • @sorrowfulsatchel679
      @sorrowfulsatchel679 4 года назад +4

      Shakira isn't of African descent, she's Colombian

    • @basketcase3496
      @basketcase3496 4 года назад +24

      sorrowful Satchel shes part Lebanese

    • @wateredown_3651
      @wateredown_3651 4 года назад +5

      @@basketcase3496 still not african

    • @MegaSolidG3K
      @MegaSolidG3K 4 года назад +55

      @@wateredown_3651 right before the original comment mentions Shakira, they preface it by saying it's present in OTHER CULTURES
      doesn't matter if she's African or not, she was only mentioned as an example of the chant's recent use in pop culture

    • @MegaSolidG3K
      @MegaSolidG3K 4 года назад +12

      @@sorrowfulsatchel679 they never said she was, they only said the chant was "present in other cultures," and then gave her as an example

  • @chinclucker
    @chinclucker 4 года назад +344

    This is absolutely nothing. The intro to sunrise is definitely them singing "oooh" but the Pray For Me bit is "alalalalalalalalalala."

    • @DarcyMH
      @DarcyMH 4 года назад +1

      agree

    • @Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo
      @Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo 4 года назад +3

      You can tell who has never made music from these comments

    • @brown-eyedcheese5440
      @brown-eyedcheese5440 4 года назад +15

      Sir Switch Crookington yOu CaN tElLL wHo HaS nEvEr mAdE mUsiC fRom tHeSe cOmMeNtS

    • @gigatronusprime
      @gigatronusprime 4 года назад +1

      @@Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo bruh

    • @caleb5568
      @caleb5568 4 года назад +3

      Nigel Chinclucker that “alalala” chant is a VERY common Ethiopian Chant. The Weeknd is Ethiopian. Simple as that. He didn’t rip anything from that band.

  • @username-1999
    @username-1999 4 года назад +469

    'ain't nobody praying for me' - Kendrick Lamar on the 7/10 Score album, DAMN.

    • @sfglim5341
      @sfglim5341 4 года назад +25

      A video by Anthony Fantano around 20 minutes long about Kendrick Lamar’s album called damn with songs by Kendrick Lamar which Anthony Fantano gave a score of 7/10 which made many people very angry and mad at Anthony Fantano. Anthony Fantano

    • @joedorben3504
      @joedorben3504 4 года назад +8

      I think he sees it as more of a 5/10 now lol

    • @mayoislife4968
      @mayoislife4968 4 года назад +1

      It’s atleast a darn/damn

    • @lunaleonem3378
      @lunaleonem3378 4 года назад +6

      @@joedorben3504 He changed the score to 6/10 a while ago so maybe now it's 5/10.

    • @Tim....
      @Tim.... 4 года назад +2

      @@lunaleonem3378 6/10 is fair for Damn now

  • @mahletd167
    @mahletd167 4 года назад +219

    the weeknd is ethiopian and so am i. the “elelelele” was a homage to a chant that north or east africans/arabs do in celebration, similar to a clap. this dude is just down on cash and need some $$ lmfaooo.

    • @mraaronhd
      @mraaronhd 4 года назад +3

      Canadian- yes. Ethiopian- kinda, but not really.

    • @JH-tr3ck
      @JH-tr3ck 4 года назад +2

      mraaronhd lmao The Weeknd is definitely Habesha. I don’t know what your talking about

    • @mraaronhd
      @mraaronhd 4 года назад +7

      Jonas Helling he wasn’t born in Ethiopia. His parents are Ethiopian, not him. He was born in Canada. He is Canadian.

    • @HM-ig7mz
      @HM-ig7mz 4 года назад +2

      @@mraaronhd he was born and lived in Canada does not mean he has actual Canadian blood in him. But I guess you can say he is both

    • @flyboi_mina6693
      @flyboi_mina6693 4 года назад +1

      Even Egyptians do it I’m Egypt that’s our chant

  • @jamesw.9256
    @jamesw.9256 4 года назад +1026

    It doesn't sound the same to me. The Pray for Me version sounds like it has a clear L pronunciation in it: more like an alalalalalala. You don't hear that L being pronounced in the Yaesayer version. It doesn't sound like a sample. It just seems like the tone is similar, but doesnt mean the vocalization was stolen.

    • @sanderpeterson
      @sanderpeterson 4 года назад +45

      a huge L.

    • @thenotoriusg
      @thenotoriusg 4 года назад +18

      Yeah actually, think your right

    • @mishmashmush
      @mishmashmush 4 года назад +25

      James W. olololololo vs alalalalalala

    • @planej6315
      @planej6315 4 года назад +30

      Exactly. You can't manipulate a sample to sound like they're singing an "aah" sound instead of an "ooh". These two songs only share the same key and that's it.

    • @jamesw.9256
      @jamesw.9256 4 года назад +11

      @@mishmashmush Not even that. Yaesayers sounds like an ooooo or an aaaaaa, but with variation of "stresses" (at least from a writers' pov. I'm not sure what you call that from a musical standpoint. Maybe pitch. I'm not sure) It sounds softer. Whereas the Pray for Me seems harder because the consonant is present.

  • @DaOmega95
    @DaOmega95 4 года назад +380

    Isn't that sound directly from the Ludwig Göransson score on "Black Panther"?
    The album incorporates parts of the score very directly.

    • @Amouroso
      @Amouroso 4 года назад +38

      DaOmega95 right? That’s what I thought too. The album is actually really creative and inspired in how elements from the score were incorporated and sampled in all of the songs

    • @micahpaulsen3940
      @micahpaulsen3940 4 года назад +16

      Yeah but Abel and Kendrick have more money

    • @Blueissuperior
      @Blueissuperior 4 года назад +2

      Well they're not gonna sue Marvel directly lol

    • @TheSammlung23
      @TheSammlung23 4 года назад +2

      @@Blueissuperior So Ludwig Goransson copied Yaesayer if I'm understanding your logic correctly?

    • @Blueissuperior
      @Blueissuperior 4 года назад +12

      @@TheSammlung23 nah I think they're doing this for money/attention they don't have a case

  • @losingfayth
    @losingfayth 4 года назад +367

    That... Isn't that just a stereotypical "tribal war-cry"? That's what I always interpretted it as. I've heard that sound used in movies, videogames, everything and never thought it sounded like the intro to a Yeasayer track

    • @masonshipton2344
      @masonshipton2344 4 года назад +24

      Spongebob has used that war-cry several times

    • @delmylopez6674
      @delmylopez6674 4 года назад +10

      @@masonshipton2344 VICTORY SCREECH

    • @malarkeyhere
      @malarkeyhere 4 года назад +39

      It’s not a war cry it’s a celebration chant, usually used in churches in Ethiopian/Eritrean culture. Hence the title pray for me. And the Weeknd is Ethiopian. YEASAYER ARE SMOKING CRACK.

    • @Croviel
      @Croviel 4 года назад +4

      they are called ululation

    • @maaxa3766
      @maaxa3766 4 года назад +3

      @@malarkeyhere so basically it is a victory screech

  • @37willdog
    @37willdog 4 года назад +136

    The Weeknd has been sued for copyright infringement like 3 times in the past year. Cut the man a break

    • @Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo
      @Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo 4 года назад +2

      @Ossarian Thank You

    • @oops6876
      @oops6876 4 года назад +1

      ayaan bazaz it can be changed more, whether you believe it or nottt

    • @gigatronusprime
      @gigatronusprime 4 года назад

      @@Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo Quit replying to every comment, thrashing people.

    • @harryjang3408
      @harryjang3408 4 года назад +2

      It's not even the first lawsuit for this album. Kendrick's also having a hard time.

    • @younggeezerrr3156
      @younggeezerrr3156 4 года назад +7

      Ossarian r u in the studio w him? Lol he writes majority of his work man. Has someone maybe helped him on a hook or a verse here and there probably but he is too gifted to not do majority of it on his own. Hell, he’s wrote amazing songs for others; love me harder Ariana grande, shot for me drake, marvins room drake, practice drake and 6 inch by Beyoncé.

  • @beyonder7776
    @beyonder7776 4 года назад +270

    I'm beginning to think lawsuits like this aren't being made with the expectation of winning, they're just publicity grabs for the accuser to get their name in headlines somehow. That's the most frustrating thing.

    • @GriffinWelch
      @GriffinWelch 4 года назад +26

      The sad part is that these cases actually do get taken seriously.

    • @mikewastelandleader
      @mikewastelandleader 4 года назад +1

      @@GriffinWelch They should people make stuff and someone steals it. This is serious but I'm not saying there is A case here in saying that stealing people's work is bad

    • @mikewastelandleader
      @mikewastelandleader 4 года назад +5

      It cost money to do this so its pretty expensive advertisements

    • @Chrisisplays
      @Chrisisplays 4 года назад +5

      They used their sample, alright, which isn't even that big of a deal. It's just, that you as an artist, should feel obliged, to contact the original owner of said recordings you are using to publish your recording, on which you make money, since it's totally dependent on their choice. It's a business, as much as it's a craft and an art. Just like every other thing you can do heartfelt.

    • @youngvolki1745
      @youngvolki1745 4 года назад

      I'm with you on this one. If you purposefully file in lawsuits like this you should be fined. Not only do you drag the name of the accused people in the mud , you also waste the time of the lawyers and judges.

  • @johannesgutenburg6425
    @johannesgutenburg6425 4 года назад +139

    I would laugh if the producer showed up in court, bought out their macbook and opened a synthesiser and recreated that sound. Slam dunk

    • @scxmvt
      @scxmvt 4 года назад +18

      *Thanks for creating printing and all that shit in Europe Mr.Gutenburg, really helps me out...*

    • @ya9thelatinogringo
      @ya9thelatinogringo 4 года назад +2

      Loved U in police academy mr guttenberg

    • @levialgol8886
      @levialgol8886 4 года назад

      Johannes Gutenburg lol Skrillex did that for Sorry. Shit was hilarious

    • @CallOfDerzy
      @CallOfDerzy 4 года назад +2

      good luck creating those vocal harmonies with a synthesizer id love to see it.

    • @johannesgutenburg6425
      @johannesgutenburg6425 4 года назад

      whyz are you challenging me bro?

  • @Radical__
    @Radical__ 4 года назад +653

    I wonder when Kendrick will get sued for ripping his entire discography off from the musical genius that is Corey Feldman

    • @zGrover402
      @zGrover402 4 года назад +4

      ?

    • @TonsMoreCowbell
      @TonsMoreCowbell 4 года назад +5

      Feldog is god

    • @santeriairaksinen398
      @santeriairaksinen398 4 года назад +30

      Well, Fieldman copied Playboi carti so there will be a kawsuit for him too.

    • @ysmmac6015
      @ysmmac6015 4 года назад +20

      Masa no because carti and kendrick are dog shit. corey is the real deal and deserves a veteran discount

    • @shutupdodo3686
      @shutupdodo3686 4 года назад +3

      YSM Mac Carti >>>>>>>>>>> whoever tf Corey’s irrelevant ass is

  • @treysmith1551
    @treysmith1551 4 года назад +84

    There’s a distinct difference between both sounds
    Yeasayers sound says: OOOOOO
    And The Weeknd song says: Ahhhhhh

    • @bengee.
      @bengee. 4 года назад +12

      Trey Smith it’s more like The Weekend is ululating as in the “lulululululu” or “lalalalala” sound is being made but the point still stands

    • @TheDGomezzi
      @TheDGomezzi 4 года назад +4

      You can change the vowel characteristic by shifting the formants. The effects of ululating can be simulated with a fast sidechain.

    • @gigajule5000
      @gigajule5000 4 года назад +2

      @@TheDGomezzi It certainly sounds like an auto pan or some other kind of stereo modulation effect. And yea, shifting the formants would mangle the vowel noise.
      That's the thing about re pitching vocals. The process pretty well transforms a lot of the characteristics of the original sound, but if it's the same audio clip it's the same audio clip.

  • @scrimblogoggins
    @scrimblogoggins 4 года назад +36

    Anthony, you know how that tiger shirt makes me feel. Replace it or I’m calling the FBI again.

  • @superwildejellyfish
    @superwildejellyfish 4 года назад +261

    Oh ffs. We’re going to get to a point where no one can make any more music since everyone will end up getting sued. Depressing really. And really stupid.

    • @codeking22
      @codeking22 4 года назад +9

      This happens alot more than people realise

    • @kolanut
      @kolanut 4 года назад +8

      I mean you act like this will effect Kendrick or the Weeknd in any way at all

    • @Adam-de8jm
      @Adam-de8jm 4 года назад +19

      The year is 2030 and all of music theory is copyrighted, only indie-experimental-lofi-a cappella-deathmetal remains

    • @vz2428
      @vz2428 4 года назад +1

      @@kolanut yeah, legally and economically

    • @IMZ44
      @IMZ44 4 года назад

      Preach

  • @repker
    @repker 4 года назад +17

    The choir sound in Pray for Me is an inital "ah," quickly followed by a sustained "lalala..." This "lalala..." has a clear initial rhythm that smears over time to create a smooth timbre (a kind of sustained "ah"). It should also be noted the "ah" and "lala..." are in time with the beat. Contrast this with the choir sound in Sunrise, which is a chorused "oooo" with an upwards pitch bent attack. The perceived timbral rhythm is mostly just chorusing motion (basically: an erratic beating effect produced by combining sounds with slight variations in pitch, i.e. lots of singers trying to sing the same note).
    Hardly a sample. I don't even need to use my subjective experience to justify this. Look at both songs in a spectrogram and the differences are so fucking obvious it's absurd. Either whoever behind the lawsuit is utterly incompetent, or they're knowingly wrong and malicious money grubbers.

  • @301larussomusic
    @301larussomusic 4 года назад +27

    "Me and Top Dawg playing rock paper scissor in court"

  • @mappyninapopo
    @mappyninapopo 4 года назад +63

    Anthony please put on a shirt you're scaring the kids.

  • @josh5245
    @josh5245 4 года назад +46

    getting sued for..... 7..... dollars...... damn.

  • @JyzYorkeManifestKidd
    @JyzYorkeManifestKidd 4 года назад +36

    I am sewing melon that *"uh"* was stolen from me.

    • @Xvladin
      @Xvladin 4 года назад +5

      Sew him a new shirt because apparently he only has one

    • @JyzYorkeManifestKidd
      @JyzYorkeManifestKidd 4 года назад +1

      @@Xvladin exactly

  • @megaascension2748
    @megaascension2748 4 года назад +167

    If anyone needs to be sued for infringement, it's the Black Eyed Peas for their new song "RITMO". It has an uncredited sample of DJ Snake & AlunaGeorge's song "You Know You Like It". And it's not a just a sample, it's the "drop" in "RITMO"!

    • @eonblue32
      @eonblue32 4 года назад +73

      Just because it's uncredited doesn't mean they didn't clear it and pay for it.

    • @codeking22
      @codeking22 4 года назад +20

      Wait black eyed peas are still a thing???

    • @darko1295
      @darko1295 4 года назад +40

      yo wtf, how does Black Eyed Peas have hit song with over half a billion views in 2020?

    • @megaascension2748
      @megaascension2748 4 года назад +13

      @@darko1295 It's in a new movie. And J Balvin. RUclips has blown up in spanish speaking countries.

    • @TeShiky
      @TeShiky 4 года назад

      @@darko1295 wtf

  • @JakePollard
    @JakePollard 4 года назад +151

    The vocals are different, Pray for me is aaaaaaas and Sunrise is oooooos

    • @wrldonwill
      @wrldonwill 4 года назад +7

      These days, you can run an audio sample through so much processing that you can change the whole sound completely.

    • @traktor7372
      @traktor7372 4 года назад +3

      @@wrldonwill Yeah well. Even if it's sampled, if you put that much effects on it its not plagiarism anymore. Thats fair use.

    • @ethanvalenzuela1425
      @ethanvalenzuela1425 4 года назад +5

      Traktor that’s not how sample clearing works g

    • @wrldonwill
      @wrldonwill 4 года назад

      @@ethanvalenzuela1425 thank you for telling that guy.

    • @Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo
      @Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo 4 года назад +1

      @@traktor7372 clown

  • @BAJF93
    @BAJF93 4 года назад +26

    I thought Ye sayer has to do something with Kanye, lol.

    • @Xvladin
      @Xvladin 4 года назад

      The Knights Who Say Ye

  • @lucasferraz2104
    @lucasferraz2104 4 года назад +88

    He waited to The Weeknd get hype again, and now that the weeknd its hyped again because After Hours, he sued him to get viwes in your 2007 track

  • @FOWBOWZ
    @FOWBOWZ 4 года назад +29

    The pray for me song sounds more like an *Oulalalalalala* while the sound from Yeasayers sounds more like an *ouhuhuhuhuhu*

  • @DanPurcell
    @DanPurcell 4 года назад +167

    HOLD ON. THEY'RE TRYING TO CLAIM COPYRIGHT OVER SUNG CHORD CHANGES?
    C'mon now lol

    • @pattyvilleTV
      @pattyvilleTV 4 года назад +17

      nope. they're trying to say that they were sampled without permission.

  • @SeymourDisapproves
    @SeymourDisapproves 4 года назад +9

    I agree, suing over the existence of a sample rather than how the sample was implemented is wild. It would be like if Vanilla ice got sued for using a guitar in his song as opposed to what he played on the guitar.

  • @alexohkay
    @alexohkay 4 года назад +30

    It sounds similar, but so does Megalovania and Complicated by Avril Lavigne.

  • @aw93927
    @aw93927 4 года назад +12

    You can’t turn “ooooooh” with lots of vibrato into “ALALALALA” this lawsuit is absolute trash, it’s not a sample. Been making music and engineering for over a decade and I can tell there’s no case here, just a shameless money grab.

    • @elijahgavin6706
      @elijahgavin6706 4 года назад +1

      Adam Winter weird because other audio engineers are in here explaining exactly how you could alter the oooooooh to sound like there are the l sounds in Pray for Me

    • @tewekdenahom485
      @tewekdenahom485 4 года назад +1

      @@elijahgavin6706 okay so vowels don't mean shit anymore
      Is that legally defendable?
      Hell no

    • @NormalAF
      @NormalAF 4 года назад +1

      @@elijahgavin6706 okay but why? like why would anyone go through the trouble of sampling some obscure song for a few seconds for the sole purpose of imitating an african chant when its not an african chant to begin with? it reasonably doesn't make sense

    • @aw93927
      @aw93927 4 года назад

      @@elijahgavin6706 Yes technically you can use a formant shifting plugin to do it but at that point how far removed does it need to be to not be considered the same? It's a slippery slope and when it goes to trial the argument is nuanced enough that jurors tend to pick who they felt had the best argument, it's no longer based on facts.

    • @elijahgavin6706
      @elijahgavin6706 4 года назад

      Adam Winter I don’t recall making any comment about whether they have a case or not, only that it could be done

  • @corbinfreeman6607
    @corbinfreeman6607 4 года назад +5

    Imagine Yeasayer being able to convince the court that the audio clip came from their song, and not a clip of chanting from the movie this album is from

  • @lukeberrie3942
    @lukeberrie3942 4 года назад +59

    I honestly don’t think Kendrick Lamar (and his producers) have ever heard a Yeasayer song in their lives.

    • @ellveeentertainment8875
      @ellveeentertainment8875 4 года назад +14

      Ud be suprised

    • @saucybeer
      @saucybeer 4 года назад +14

      Luke Berrie Hip hop producers are notoriously known for sampling just about everything , wtf are you talking about?

    • @lukeberrie3942
      @lukeberrie3942 4 года назад +6

      Andy Yeasayer are irrelevant af. Nobody wants to sample that shit.

    • @redgenerall28
      @redgenerall28 4 года назад +12

      @@lukeberrie3942 nah, logic is exactly opposite. It's much cooler to sample some obscure stuff that nobody heard.

    • @yeastpriest9181
      @yeastpriest9181 4 года назад +4

      Oh they absolutely have - dude sampled Beach House for god’s sake!

  • @derrickgoble8976
    @derrickgoble8976 4 года назад +56

    Nobody will sue “Peanut Man” by Tim Buckley because nobody could copy Tim’s genius.

    • @derrickgoble8976
      @derrickgoble8976 4 года назад +1

      Weyes Noir fun fact: fantano has not listened to Tim Buckley. Granted “peanut man” is his worst (yet still complex) song, if he did a classic review it should be over Starsailor or Happy Sad

    • @derrickgoble8976
      @derrickgoble8976 4 года назад

      Weyes Noir true

  • @nahomwondimu4067
    @nahomwondimu4067 4 года назад +4

    I'm pretty sure The alalalala comes from Ethiopian orthodox churches. Whenever a priest says something uplifting or powerful the females in the church produce that sound. The weeknd is a very strong supporter of the Ethiopian orthodox community here in Toronto he's donated thousands of dollars to the saint mary's Orthodox Church. The religious origin of the alalalala sound ties back to the title of the track "Pray for me".

  • @DeezyDru
    @DeezyDru 4 года назад +14

    The "Woolalalala" African chant sample is all throughout the BP OST. Off rip, It pops up on "X" towards the end as it's transitioning into "The Ways" but it's a pitch lower than it's appearance on "Pray For Me" & way more isolated so it comes across a lot clearer. You can tell it's not a sample of the Yeasayer song by listening to that. Plus, I remember MixedByAli saying they got a shit ton of sound bites from the movie & they incorporated those in the album. Either way, if Yeasayer comes away winning this court case, they'd be wrong on this one.

  • @chuckslemino
    @chuckslemino 4 года назад +15

    From listening to it I don't think that it is the same sound or a sample, in the Yeasayer song the vocals seem to be a consistent breath out, if that makes any sense whereas in Pray for me it's more of a tribal sounding Alehlehleleh sound, if that also makes any sense, and I think that fits more with the theme of Black panther

  • @jsjejejjerkrj9410
    @jsjejejjerkrj9410 4 года назад +44

    anthony i am suing you and the weeknd.

  • @TheSickGman09
    @TheSickGman09 4 года назад +85

    Oof. Went and listened and I'm scared they may lose this case. Lawsuits about music never go well lmao

    • @Andioop69420
      @Andioop69420 4 года назад +76

      TheSickGman09 no one owns the note D. Especially when it’s done in the style of an African chant. It’s a morally and artistically bankrupt court case.

    • @TheSickGman09
      @TheSickGman09 4 года назад +3

      @@Andioop69420 yes. I agree. But I think they may win.

    • @Andioop69420
      @Andioop69420 4 года назад +18

      TheSickGman09 it might be naive to hope common sense can prevail. Hope they get a good lawyer and maybe Adam Neely as a music consultant.

    • @saintt9044
      @saintt9044 4 года назад +6

      I feel like The Weeknd and Kendrick will get pretty good lawyers, researchers, and financial backing from their record label, right? I would imagine that they have interest in yeasayer not winning too? Idk of course but it looks good for them from this article

    • @cai6972
      @cai6972 4 года назад +1

      @@saintt9044 Katy Perry got money but she lost so...Here's hoping

  • @VarsityAthlete04
    @VarsityAthlete04 4 года назад +37

    Not again

    • @CJ_YT.
      @CJ_YT. 4 года назад +1

      Liquid swordsss sick

  • @feli6277
    @feli6277 4 года назад +9

    In the sunrise track it's "ooooohohooooo" and in the weeknd & kendrick lamar song it's"allalllaaalalla" - it's not the same 😒

  • @amerikandood7877
    @amerikandood7877 4 года назад +99

    No melon, I dont think God can sue Kendrick and the Weeknd for stealing his prayers, try again

    • @legendaryalex8720
      @legendaryalex8720 4 года назад +3

      ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!

    • @alexanderiskandar8379
      @alexanderiskandar8379 4 года назад +2

      @Nathan I think this might be the worst comment I've ever read.

    • @mabbott946
      @mabbott946 4 года назад +2

      I hate this comment section sometimes

    • @alexanderiskandar8379
      @alexanderiskandar8379 4 года назад +2

      Nooo he deleted his comment, I was being sarcastic, I actually liked it.

  • @latelee0072
    @latelee0072 4 года назад +4

    There's a few samples in the song sunrise that they didn't get permission for lol

  • @JamesReviews
    @JamesReviews 4 года назад +69

    They are just jealous that their song never took off. Sounds nothing like pray for me in ny opinion. So nothing will really happen

    • @leonidas8513
      @leonidas8513 4 года назад +32

      They're desperate for fame because their band is dead. This is almost becoming a trend with popular songs

    • @JamesReviews
      @JamesReviews 4 года назад

      @@leonidas8513 exactly

    • @justfetus
      @justfetus 4 года назад +11

      they're not jealous nor desperate for fame. They just want a piece of the pie after a big artist used an unlicensed sample. Copyright law is fun.

    • @JamesReviews
      @JamesReviews 4 года назад +1

      @@justfetus I don't think it sounds the same

    • @jasonarmstrong9656
      @jasonarmstrong9656 4 года назад

      justfetus now hears a thought I’m sure if they don’t own their publishing they don’t need to be asked for permission of sampling the label or whoever owns it does.

  • @pablogallegoGNZ
    @pablogallegoGNZ 4 года назад +1

    Listening to both parts: the sound in Yeasayer has a long "oh" sound while in Kendrick & The Weeknd's song you can clearly hear the "eL-L-L" vibration as if the tongue is moving up and down giving the vibration effect. Two very different sounds, its noticeable right away.

  • @KJ-hg5ck
    @KJ-hg5ck 4 года назад

    Just waiting for your Royce album review!!!

  • @MVD.
    @MVD. 4 года назад +50

    This one might be the dumbest lawsuit yet. It's just a vocal technique lmao

    • @ImpendingRiot83
      @ImpendingRiot83 4 года назад +22

      The legal precedent behind this gaggle of no-name fuckwits winning would be disastrous for so many artists. These Yeasayer shitheads have no idea what they’re doing to anyone who tries to carry a fucking tune with their voice.

    • @gintuner4371
      @gintuner4371 4 года назад +5

      Yeah but if it is sampled, they might have a case? Idk really, i agree that if it isn't sampled, just reproduced, they don't have a case, but it sounds to me just like it was sampled and altered to sound the way it does in "Pray for me". It's all in the courts' hands.

    • @Moneyman-33
      @Moneyman-33 4 года назад +4

      ImpendingRiot83 It’s not just a vocal technique the claim is he sampled their music without asking and without giving any credit. That’s not fair to any artist. Why couldn’t Kendrick just fucking write in the liner notes of the album “samples” and list them?
      Fucking ridiculous man it’s literally stealing

    • @P0k3D0nd3M4cG
      @P0k3D0nd3M4cG 4 года назад

      @@Moneyman-33 ...but they're audibly different.

    • @P0k3D0nd3M4cG
      @P0k3D0nd3M4cG 4 года назад

      @@Moneyman-33 plus Kendrick doesn't produce, dumbass. He wouldn't know what samples were used in an instrumental unless he oversaw production from start to finish

  • @WB6363
    @WB6363 4 года назад +10

    i always thought it was just the weeknd going "walalalalalala" in the mic it doesn't sound like a sample at all

  • @jaetrxpp
    @jaetrxpp 4 года назад

    I think they might actually be referring to the vocal sample around the 1:30 in Pray for Me. Sounds somewhat similar.

  • @markgivens2557
    @markgivens2557 4 года назад

    Thank you. I didnt get it from the article. They sorta have a point.

  • @johnnyk3917
    @johnnyk3917 4 года назад +8

    (In reference to 2:10 on Pray for Me) The Weeknd is Ethiopian lol that sound is something that women make in our culture during celebrations

  • @ellveeentertainment8875
    @ellveeentertainment8875 4 года назад +6

    R u ever going to review stitches. He deserves it

  • @Tommy-ot9mm
    @Tommy-ot9mm 4 года назад +1

    The thing is the samples pitch isn't necessarily been changed, what they did was change the formants to a higher frequency. Pitch just changes the notes in this case being sung. Formant shifting changes the characteristics of the voices, that's why it sounds similar but not exactly the same. Any producer with Melodyne (or any other similar plugin) could do this real easily. I agree the wording of this case is weird but there's no way they didn't sample it. Not to mention that as easy give away is that they sampled the very start of a song, talk to any producer that samples and they'll tell you that 90% of all the chops they make are from the beginnings of a track.
    Plus The Weeknd already did this sort of thing with Portishead.

  • @sushitrash893
    @sushitrash893 4 года назад

    As soon as I checked Pray For Me at 2:10 I bursted out laughing for sure 😂 your impression of it was spot on lol

  • @jakewheldon1302
    @jakewheldon1302 4 года назад +16

    Damn, Anthony do be wearing the panther shirt to rub it in tho. Nice.

    • @cristianromero2214
      @cristianromero2214 4 года назад +2

      Jake Wheldon lol I hope you’re just making a joke. I don’t want to get whoooshed so imma leave it at that

    • @BrownTown1897
      @BrownTown1897 4 года назад

      Black Panther, Orange Tiger, right

    • @pr4thidude465
      @pr4thidude465 4 года назад +1

      WATCH OUT MELON THERE IS A TIGER ON YOUR CHEST 😱😱😱😱🤯🤯🤯

  • @KamiKazuo
    @KamiKazuo 4 года назад +47

    Anthony you can't just sue the artists who made a song for the Black Panther soundtrack just because the word "Black" offends you.

    • @monkeymask9596
      @monkeymask9596 4 года назад +4

      KAZUO hahahah so funny get it because he didnt actually say that hahah so original and hilarious

  • @mollybeatrixmusic
    @mollybeatrixmusic 4 года назад +1

    i haven’t thought about this song in an extremely long time

  • @doodbro931
    @doodbro931 4 года назад +1

    The sound is kind of similar but the one in Pray for Me is clearly like a tribal/primitive call because of the Black Panther movie. The movie setting is in Africa with heavy tribal themes at the core of the characters and the sound supposed to be a warrior call or something to that effect.

  • @blackicon2609
    @blackicon2609 4 года назад +16

    Why is he suing Kendrick on the weekend everyone vibing in the weekend bro 😔

  • @seltibar4581
    @seltibar4581 4 года назад +10

    Can't wait for this to be on Kendrick's new album.

  • @chrisbeffa8890
    @chrisbeffa8890 4 года назад

    The first 45 seconds of that Yeasayer song is amazing. I'll probably just loop that on my playlist.

  • @Brownsamurai
    @Brownsamurai 4 года назад +1

    YaySayer was sick back in the day. Yeah I hear it

  • @jvckhvtesgvmes3395
    @jvckhvtesgvmes3395 4 года назад +35

    This is so disappointing. I've actually really enjoyed a lot of Yeasayer's stuff in the past, their work on the GTA V soundtrack in particular was incredible, but I've lost a lot of respect for them as a band after this.

    • @Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo
      @Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo 4 года назад +2

      Nobody cares

    • @americansoul5563
      @americansoul5563 4 года назад +2

      @@Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo about what ( gta 5 soundtrack , hs opinion or the band )

    • @Substantial-hf1rm
      @Substantial-hf1rm 4 года назад +11

      @@Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo You cared enough to reply fam.

    • @ethanbrown6188
      @ethanbrown6188 4 года назад +1

      It might not be them, but their lawyers. Don't let a stupid lawsuit ruin music for you :)

    • @jvckhvtesgvmes3395
      @jvckhvtesgvmes3395 4 года назад +1

      @@ethanbrown6188 We can hope! I still think their music is great, was just very deflating to see another one of these music lawsuits with their name attached to it.

  • @pun33thifi3d6
    @pun33thifi3d6 4 года назад +62

    The sad part of this comments section is that nobody wants to discuss or express their opinions anymore, Everybody wants clout by meme commenting.
    Everytime I jump in to the comments section i hope that somebody might be expressing their opinions over the video's topic but I'm disappointed each and every time.
    This has become the worst comments section.

    • @edgarbachman9037
      @edgarbachman9037 4 года назад +7

      Couldn’t agree more, anyone who feels this way should down-vote the stupid ass filler comments and up votes comments that are discussions or comments about the content of the video. We don’t have to let our favorite channels comment section turn into a locker room! Use those thumbs, boys.

    • @festivepapa5573
      @festivepapa5573 4 года назад +4

      Eminem's Sidekick I went into the comments to see people discussing and it never happens

    • @storyofwoe
      @storyofwoe 4 года назад +2

      is that not what the subreddit is for?

    • @darthdj31
      @darthdj31 4 года назад

      The 2015 comments actually talk about the music. I'd encourage commenters to share their thoughts in kind too. Most are obviously not thinking about the music

    • @happyslapper0325
      @happyslapper0325 4 года назад +4

      Just sort by newest my guy. All the memes get liked the most so they show up at the top

  • @conjo4030
    @conjo4030 4 года назад +1

    Good afternoon Melon!

  • @egagnard
    @egagnard 4 года назад +2

    The 2:10 mark in Pray for Me I always imagined was an African call of sorts. I wouldn't say its reminiscent of Sunrise

  • @five6iix
    @five6iix 4 года назад +12

    My music gonna blow soon

  • @anthonyl1017
    @anthonyl1017 4 года назад +22

    Weird way to spell Car Seat Headrest track review
    Get on it Melon boy

    • @BlueThe1up
      @BlueThe1up 4 года назад +1

      i liked it. dunno how mellone will enjoy it. the instrumentals were a bit weak

  • @zorazora0
    @zorazora0 4 года назад

    I think the lawsuit is more about the background choirs you can hear on The Weeknd's song at 1:36. They do kinda sound like the same choirs, sampled and pitch-modulated. Or it could be any other choir, or any Kontakt library really

  • @noahparton3210
    @noahparton3210 4 года назад

    I thought it sounded pretty close and that it'd be as easy as transposing, reverb, and some warping. I threw it into my DAW and worked with it but it doesn't achieve that lalala sound over the oooh sound, but then again, there are a lot of VSTs out there that do a lot of different things. Keeping it as is without transposing actually sounds a lot closer than pitching it up an octave. I tried a few plugins to add a more la la la type of vibrato but I couldn't achieve it (via Autotune, frequency shifter, or automation). I think Abel or the producer and Yeasayer simply crossed paths artistically speaking.

  • @duggalbrothers
    @duggalbrothers 4 года назад +12

    Melon lookin THICCCCC

  • @beaverjacob_214
    @beaverjacob_214 4 года назад +3

    Imagine being white and thinking that you invented a tribal cry.

  • @joshuaturk5184
    @joshuaturk5184 4 года назад

    Sounds more like a pitched down, slightly slowed sample of the intro to Dead Prez - Radio Freq

  • @tpain525
    @tpain525 4 года назад

    quesion if Kendrick and the weekend can prove in the raw recording that they were the one who recorded that part especially since it's a reference to the vocal chants in the blank panther, wouldnt the case be closed at shut? when i heard that i noticed it was the weeknd doing the vocal chants from the movie

  • @TheDob766
    @TheDob766 4 года назад +5

    Vocals in pray for me sound more like an “Ah” while Sunrise sounds more like an “Ooh”. If you’re not hearing that somethings wrong. This is a bogus suit.

  • @nuutella6564
    @nuutella6564 4 года назад +7

    “Sunrise” was kinda ass compared to “Pray For Me”
    don’t see the similarity. 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @oscar-vm5it
    @oscar-vm5it 4 года назад +1

    Where the pitchfork link melon ffs

  • @double0hsnap538
    @double0hsnap538 4 года назад

    I think it's a sample. If you listen to pray for me right at the end of Kendrick's verse, you can hear it most clearly. I don't know if the "elelele" part is a warbled version of the original (it sounds like it could be.) However, the "ooh" is quiet and layered over in the background, but it's unmistakably the same pitch, tonality, and even the same key. If you switch back and forth between the two tracks and tune your ear to the "ooh" sound right at the beginning of sunrise, you can hear it throughout the second half of pray for me. It's subtle, but I'm pretty sure it's the same.

  • @bayataoski609
    @bayataoski609 4 года назад +4

    Don't Pray For Me

  • @tastywindex
    @tastywindex 4 года назад +4

    the death of copyright would be the greatest thing to happen to music creatively

    • @Moneyman-33
      @Moneyman-33 4 года назад

      Neslope And it would also allow much larger artists with bigger social media presence to blatantly steal other artists music from them and those artists would just be told “get fucked bro”
      There’s a line between the two that can be drawn but 0 copyright laws just allows thieves to get away with it and then profit.

    • @Imetral0
      @Imetral0 4 года назад

      @@Moneyman-33 meh. all that really happens with these laws in place is erroneous lawsuits like this. music should be shared, not owned.

    • @Moneyman-33
      @Moneyman-33 4 года назад

      Imetral That’s absurd. That’s like saying if you form a business and make a product you should be forced to just share it with everyone. That’s not how life works nor is it should be how life works. If you make something and work hard on it. You own that. It’s not your duty to hand it out for free. That’s such a childish way of thinking it’s incredible you actually think that.
      My guess is you’ve never created a song yourself and understood how hard that is. And then can’t empathize with someone whose done that work but gets that work stolen by a more well known group and then all your hard work gets used to increase the fame of someone else who didn’t earn it. That’s called theft, ya know, stealing? It’s kind of illegal. For a reason?

    • @Imetral0
      @Imetral0 4 года назад

      @@Moneyman-33 that's some nice false equivalence and assumptions you've got there. not that i need to prove myself to you, but i am a musician and i have created some songs that i've poured time and effort into.
      also, your entire premise is formed from the perspective of music as a business rather then music as an art form. i know it's hard to open your mind to alternative perspectives but you might want to try it.
      it's funny bc i got these ideas from John Frusciante. y'know, one of the most successful and well respected musicians of the modern day.

  • @butterfingersman
    @butterfingersman 4 года назад +1

    its behind the alalalala guys, you can hear it at the very end of the song a little if you listen very close. still a dumb case of copyright infringement for a texture sample lol

  • @rileyschmedeman652
    @rileyschmedeman652 4 года назад

    i just wanted the car seat headrest track review

  • @gerothepharaoh
    @gerothepharaoh 4 года назад +19

    Why do people get angry when their art is sampled, I’d be honored if Kendrick Lamar got inspiration from something I made

    • @cai6972
      @cai6972 4 года назад +9

      They get angry cuz the song makes money and they dont even though their art contributed, which makes sense they should have splits but a lot of artists stretch way too much

    • @Dooodl_
      @Dooodl_ 4 года назад +1

      ud be a starving pride dude walkin round man😂u gotta get that fettucini

    • @demifolk8940
      @demifolk8940 4 года назад +1

      Gero, The Pharaoh Usually you get payed if your stuff gets sampled. Thats how it works. I love Kendrick and all but thats just stealing. If someone made something CREDIT IT. Don’t just take their shit and make profit off of it, thats scummy. I don’t believe Kendrick would intentionally do something like this tho. He probably wasn’t even aware. Thats my guess tho

    • @shutupdodo3686
      @shutupdodo3686 4 года назад

      demifolk I don’t even think he stole it tho. Isn’t the noise literally a part of like tribal African culture or something?

    • @MrHoofoo1
      @MrHoofoo1 4 года назад +1

      demifolk its not even similar, and its not even Kendrick performing it, its the weeknd, i doubt either of them new. Its not even similar.

  • @gsiddharth4123
    @gsiddharth4123 4 года назад +3

    Anthony has CORONAVIRUS.
    You know it's just my opinion right.

  • @StopmotionStudios13
    @StopmotionStudios13 4 года назад

    Melon the composer who recorded the soundtrack for Black Panther actually went to Africa to record local artist. Pieces of the soundtrack are sprinkled troughout the Black Panther collaboration album. The sound you hear therefore cant be sampled from the Sunset song.

  • @SomeSong2
    @SomeSong2 4 года назад

    Funny how the beginning of Sunrise sounds like the beginning of Like a Prayer.

  • @devinshearer7523
    @devinshearer7523 4 года назад +3

    Can you leave my family alone? We can clearly see you in the bushes

  • @declhum92
    @declhum92 4 года назад +9

    "some of the allegations here seem quite silly, a little preposterous"
    - Anthony Fantano in court for his sexual abuse case

    • @nathanielreed4350
      @nathanielreed4350 4 года назад

      Sexual abuse is a legitimately painful topic for some people. Why would you joke about this?

  • @PartridgeFamm
    @PartridgeFamm 4 года назад

    The only common thread that's evident to me is the timbre and the minor seventh chord-- seemingly voiced in root position, but the vowel being stressed in both respective tracks are different. Hopefully they aren't trying to do something as headassy as trying to copyright a chord or texture.

  • @sargonavocado4582
    @sargonavocado4582 4 года назад

    hey now melon thought you could edit out you hitting that marijuana cigarette vaporizer pen at 3:14 did'ya?!

  • @TheKeeperofChaos
    @TheKeeperofChaos 4 года назад +3

    Reading this comment section makes me realize none of y’all melon heads actually watched or listened to Anthony, you just saw “irrelevant band sues rapper “ and commented without bothering to consider anything else...

  • @beatsbykana
    @beatsbykana 4 года назад

    all these music lawsuits scaring me...

  • @evelynrose925
    @evelynrose925 4 года назад

    Oh my goodness I think I can hear it. In the beginning on the sunrise song that hhhiiiiggghhyyy vocal sound. It sounds like it was edited and remixed to sound like the hiyahiyahhiyah sound on Pray for Me which starts at 1:54 and then really noticeable at 2:12. Thats so crazy they picked that up. 👀 lowkey deserve some money from whoever sampled them without notice. Ok I actually watched the rest of the video and yes I do believe its close enough for them to win. That vocal edit is one of the distinguishing characteristics of the song and is why i really like the song so the Yeasayers do deserve money if they can prove audio engineer wise that the vocals are in essence identical.

  • @Deyontae
    @Deyontae 4 года назад +1

    Irrelevant rock bands will due anything for clout. First, they continue to sue a man that just died in juice wrld, and now they are suing two of the biggest artist in the world for a song that is on the soundtrack of possibly the biggest movie in 2017

  • @glenaladar
    @glenaladar 4 года назад

    Its funny because you can hear Lyn Collins (Think) drums in Yeasayers Sunrise song.

  • @blahblah-we6dw
    @blahblah-we6dw 4 года назад

    I sometimes think these lawsuits are ridiculous we're in an age with so much art with music you have big music companies helping artist make music most of its gonna sound similar it's very hard to make things sound completely unique.

  • @kolbycrase4990
    @kolbycrase4990 4 года назад

    Cover the new car seat headrest song

  • @boogabuga7657
    @boogabuga7657 4 года назад

    It is the same chord being sung using harmonized male voices. And there is certainly a tremolo type effect on the whole sound in Pray for Me that could be used to make the sample sound different from it's original source. To me however, it doesn't sound like the same voice singing both parts. In Pray for Me it sounds like the Weeknd's voice and the vowel is different.