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  • Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2019
  • On 9th September 2015, Queen Elizabeth II became the longest-serving British monarch. One of the most enduring images of her coronation in 1953 is that of Her Majesty surrounded by her dukes. Their influence once extended beyond the merely ceremonial, they were a crucial part of the architecture that supported the monarchy. Only 24 noble dukes now remain and this documentary - with unique access to the dukes of Norfolk, Argyll, Montrose and Marlborough - explores both the fascinating history and function of their great dukedoms in modern day Britain.
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  • @AbsoluteHistory
    @AbsoluteHistory  2 года назад +5

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  • @xoxo62477
    @xoxo62477 3 года назад +563

    Her parents are in the afterlife screaming, "I told you 400 times to leave that dagger alone!"

    • @serenapetersen1822
      @serenapetersen1822 3 года назад +13

      😂you'll put your eye out!

    • @seekingtruthlight
      @seekingtruthlight 2 года назад

      The arrogance to believe yourself above those paying for their wealth..the Commoner...and the self-entitlement for doing absolutely nothing to deserve it..is astounding. Commoners have been conditioned and subjugated for centuries to literally..buy into this thinking.

    • @ohiostin
      @ohiostin 2 года назад

      She killed her dad to be Queen?

  • @MrFearless
    @MrFearless 4 года назад +661

    When that lady actually found the knife she was talking about, the realization of how much time she spent living there, in such a beautiful home, hit me.

    • @militzamadrid462
      @militzamadrid462 3 года назад +30

      ...the way she spoke, one can Tell that she Is very much from that beautiful place.

    • @Howtragicforyou
      @Howtragicforyou 2 года назад +21

      It’s quite odd to see someone like her talk about such a spectacular place in the same sort of loving terms and passion I talk about the little island I spent my childhood summers on. Turns out nostalgia is universal.

    • @DowncastOdin
      @DowncastOdin 2 года назад +8

      I love that you can see when she goes from oh its a museum display to its my childhood home when sh grabs the rope and just nonchalantly tosses it away

  • @Lagmire
    @Lagmire 4 года назад +1478

    My wife’s grandfather is heir apparent to an Earldom (also a viscount?) when his older, childless brother dies. Both men are in their early 80’s. Next in line is my wife’s uncle, who has no sons. Next after that is my wife’s younger uncle who is currently living on the streets of Vancouver, Canada.
    There is a possible scenario where a Canadian homeless drug addict becomes an Earl/Viscount.

    • @caligulalonghbottom2629
      @caligulalonghbottom2629 4 года назад +172

      Honestly if a woman can inherit the throne, I think they should make special arrangements to have these titles inheritable by women as well... It would require ALOT of paperwork from the Queen herself to do it but it could be done. Actually, it could probably be done by Parliament but that would really be chipping away at HM's last remaining prerogatives...

    • @KealaniAlexandra
      @KealaniAlexandra 4 года назад +54

      @@caligulalonghbottom2629 What every changes are made to acknowledge gender equality can only ever affect change to the present and the future. It can never make things equitable for the past.. The practice of allowing various titles to pass to eldest daughters has already begun. Louis Mountbatten himself was succeeded by his daughter. Princess Beatrice will become Duchess of York when her father passes. And there are other cases. The changes come, but slowly.

    • @caligulalonghbottom2629
      @caligulalonghbottom2629 4 года назад +26

      @@KealaniAlexandra. Those titles are again...only for those close to the royal family.

    • @LivingInChrysalis
      @LivingInChrysalis 4 года назад +45

      @@KealaniAlexandra Princess Beatrice will inherit? Considering the Duke of York has traditionally been the title given to the second son of the monarch... this change is bizarre

    • @pedanticradiator1491
      @pedanticradiator1491 4 года назад +58

      Kealani Smith I’m sorry but Princess Beatrice is not going to inherit her fathers titles as they can only pass to males. In the case of Louis Mountbatten a special remainder was put on his title so that it could pass to his daughters if there were no sons Queen Victoria or Edward VII did this for the Duke of Fife (Edwards son in law) but the present monarch has not done it for any of her sons and grandsons who have been given titles

  • @tjmmcd1
    @tjmmcd1 4 года назад +1229

    @12:20..."I'm here because of an accident of birth, and I didn't do anything to deserve this huge privilege".
    The most honest response I've ever heard.

    • @HollywoodF1
      @HollywoodF1 4 года назад +99

      I feel like it comes a bit from a place of guilt. In the past, the title was not just about what you got, it was about your obligation as well. I wonder if he feels too disconected from Scotland to feel the sense of fulfillment that comes with well executed duty.

    • @numberpirate
      @numberpirate 4 года назад +64

      All inheritance is an accident of birth, collecting on one of either three things, great intellect (patents), great greed(cutthroat business endeavours) or absolute luck (lottery winnings).

    • @brandiguarino1778
      @brandiguarino1778 4 года назад +9

      Agreed.

    • @tonymiller225
      @tonymiller225 3 года назад +3

      Despite the clamoring's of the communists and his "white privilege" genetics plays a decent part in the culture and technology whether the left likes it or not. England and all the technology and progress that flowed from it was not built on random accidents of birth

    • @anthonytindle5758
      @anthonytindle5758 2 года назад +3

      Yes I agree it's about time heirs come and realise that the majority of humans have to break a sweat on a regular basis not only to put food I there mouths but earn a living with no heirs and graces, get a grip on life you pompent snobs, you're no use to anyone not even the house you live.

  • @avery2621
    @avery2621 4 года назад +1301

    That moment when you forget what titles you have

    • @torinjones3221
      @torinjones3221 4 года назад +28

      Ck2 much

    • @F-J.
      @F-J. 3 года назад +5

      😆 🤣 😂

    • @lynnhauenstein4136
      @lynnhauenstein4136 3 года назад +10

      What was point of so many titles and I'm curious as initially awarded by monarchy, history behind titles.

    • @rawdawg15
      @rawdawg15 3 года назад +42

      @@lynnhauenstein4136 tradition and nothing else. Its not like they go to these places they are duke of and prance around in scarlet robes

    • @EmdrGreg
      @EmdrGreg 3 года назад +9

      Yes, I SO hate when that happens.

  • @stonedperson97
    @stonedperson97 4 года назад +963

    "I dont know if were allowed to do this but..."
    * tosses red rope aside *

    • @ahmedmuhammed4906
      @ahmedmuhammed4906 4 года назад +33

      Like a Baaaws

    • @emilinebelle7811
      @emilinebelle7811 4 года назад +67

      I loved her. 😂

    • @rangerdave1973
      @rangerdave1973 4 года назад +82

      It's her house...

    • @stareagle5000
      @stareagle5000 4 года назад +33

      dave rg
      It was her father’s house. It’s is her.... great nephews house?
      I think that’s correct.... don’t quote me on it.

    • @nacht98
      @nacht98 4 года назад +31

      @@stareagle5000 it used to be her house.

  • @jesusbeloved3953
    @jesusbeloved3953 4 года назад +597

    The Duke of Atholl is one of the most humble people I’ve ever seen. God bless him!

    • @catsandcrafts171
      @catsandcrafts171 4 года назад +44

      I really wanted to dislike him at the beginning of that section, and by the end I thought we was excellent! I wish perhaps they'd dedicate more time to being over at the estate, he seems like he would be an asset there.

    • @yama5182
      @yama5182 4 года назад

      My Menagerie ! ...Humble for stating the Obvious truth...that’s ridiculous.

    • @user-uy6uc5ey5q
      @user-uy6uc5ey5q 3 года назад +13

      @@catsandcrafts171 The 10th Duke the day before he died in Feb '96 transferred all of the estate into a trust which is controlled to this day by the 10th Duke's direct family (mainly the his cousin I believe as briefly shown in the video). The 10th Duke's relevates I suspect aren't massively keen on their distant relative "being over at the estate" more than absolutely necessary for the various ceremonial functions he carries out.
      I might add the estate makes a lot of money from tourism nowadays and in fact the 'Atholl Highlanders' hadn't existed since the end of WW1 till 1966 when the 10th Duke recreated it, though not a regular thing to 1973. All the stuff you see on the screen here called the 'Atholl Gathering' they only done since 1984. To see them you have to pay for a ticket. As to the claim of being the "largest (or alternatively, last) private army in Europe, this pretty much is all from the Atholl estate publicity claims. In all their publicity they are at pains to use the phrase "no military role" as to avoid possible legal issues as the UK does have rather strict laws about mercenaries. Claiming that an army has "no military role" is rather like a baker saying they don't make cakes or bread. A bunch a guys with outdated 303s engaging in Scottish Highland military cosplay does not an army make.

    • @i.rankin6711
      @i.rankin6711 3 года назад +2

      ..and Blair castle makes a great visit ! Especially if you arrive before 11 a m . Then a piper from the Duke' s private army will greet you - unforgettable !

    • @HipsterYoda
      @HipsterYoda 2 года назад

      Because he wasn't born into it lolol

  • @derricklangford4725
    @derricklangford4725 3 года назад +344

    I just love that first old dutchess, everything about her is just like so casual, "No we didn't discuss it" 😂

    • @illonamuda9509
      @illonamuda9509 3 года назад +27

      She is not a duchess... She's a lady, a past duke's daughter, aunt to the recent duke

    • @derricklangford4725
      @derricklangford4725 3 года назад +9

      @@illonamuda9509 thank you for the info

    • @pennymiller3842
      @pennymiller3842 2 года назад +8

      the daughter of a duke is not a duchess unless she marries another duke

    • @conserztasfia0078
      @conserztasfia0078 2 года назад +1

      @@pennymiller3842 didnt lord mountbatten's daughter inherit his title as a countess and lady mountbatten?
      Then why can't other daughters inherit their father's titles?

    • @pedanticradiator1491
      @pedanticradiator1491 2 года назад +2

      @@conserztasfia0078 When Mountbatten was given his titles he only had daughters and was unlikely to have any more children due to age and the circumstances of his marriage so an exception or special remainder was made to his title where it could pass to his daughters but after them the titles are restricted to male heirs only. Many pre union Scottish titles are open to female succession as are some ancient English Baronies but most peerage titles can only be inherited by men. When an hereditary peerage is or was created the rules of succession to that title are laid down in a document called a letter patent most are straightforward saying inheritance is by the male heirs of the first holder only but some can be quite complicated eg: the Earldom of Selkirk the rules of which are designed so that the title can never be held by the same person who is also the Duke of Hamilton

  • @chaosPneumatic
    @chaosPneumatic 2 года назад +460

    Imagine being able to touch and move every piece at a museum because it's _literally your house._

    • @maximilianomadrigal6661
      @maximilianomadrigal6661 2 года назад +1

      Isnt it her house not his

    • @chaosPneumatic
      @chaosPneumatic 2 года назад +33

      @@maximilianomadrigal6661 I don't see where I used any gendered pronoun or implied it was anyone else's house.

    • @butter790
      @butter790 2 года назад +4

      Museum full of stolen artefacts!!

    • @doraholden848
      @doraholden848 2 года назад +5

      Imagine being forced to have paying strangers come through your home at least two or three times a week in order to pay your property taxes and bills.

    • @emr6153
      @emr6153 2 года назад +1

      Imagine not because it's not really your house, though!!

  • @Snowymae
    @Snowymae 3 года назад +187

    The way they were handling the robes, and storing them in plastic in the attic was making the conservator in me scream and writhe in pain.

    • @user-uy6uc5ey5q
      @user-uy6uc5ey5q 3 года назад +16

      Suggest not watch these type of documentaries. All seem to be full of inbred upper class twits with mostly no idea of how they got to where they are in life. Interestingly the son, who doesn't use his title, as a historian, seemed to be the only one with any idea about the history.

    • @lordcawdorofmordor2549
      @lordcawdorofmordor2549 3 года назад +6

      @@user-uy6uc5ey5q Sadly he's kind of arrogant too, tried to say that reforming the House of Lords is treason and subscribes to the theory that Shakespeare's plays were actually written by one of his ancestors

    • @user-uy6uc5ey5q
      @user-uy6uc5ey5q 3 года назад +14

      @@lordcawdorofmordor2549 'Kind of arrogant' is sort the default mode of the upper class, so for me that was a built in assumption. What you not might realise a lot of the hereditary peers (and to be fair a smaller number of appointed ones as well) who sat in the Lords milked the system for allowances and expenses, some were clearing away US$70000 tax free annually with little to no actual participation in actual debates or even voting (to get paid the peer just needs to recorded as being present in the Palace of Westminster, there no time limit on for how long- hence the nickname "taxis left running Lords" being used for some. The really wealthy ones of course don't bother as 70 grand is chicken feed to them, but the more conventional income Lords viewed the seat in Westminster as a retirement income. Suspect thats where the "treason" comment arises from.

    • @alalalala57
      @alalalala57 3 года назад +1

      @@lordcawdorofmordor2549 I mean, he's technically correct.

    • @alalalala57
      @alalalala57 3 года назад

      @@user-uy6uc5ey5q Who cares?

  • @beneiseoleinmheart5614
    @beneiseoleinmheart5614 4 года назад +849

    She knew exactly where that Dagger was 👥😂😂

    • @briggyb
      @briggyb 4 года назад +45

      I love her!!

    • @stephanierichards1096
      @stephanierichards1096 4 года назад +11

      @@briggyb me too

    • @scruffmcgruff03
      @scruffmcgruff03 4 года назад +21

      It was her childhood home

    • @JackieMReacts
      @JackieMReacts 3 года назад +11

      would come in handy if the purge happened

    • @lynnhauenstein4136
      @lynnhauenstein4136 3 года назад +10

      That the dagger still there, super cool. And just where she remembered it. Only in UK, IN US be in some dusty drawer without explanation.

  • @Andrew-gn9qp
    @Andrew-gn9qp 4 года назад +152

    The Duchess at the end is very smart at ensuring the financial stability of her family. Well done.

  • @stevenharland556
    @stevenharland556 3 года назад +119

    bless you lady Rosemary,i had to get home because my mother was roasting an ox,i almost died when you said that.what a lovely woman.

    • @georgealderson4424
      @georgealderson4424 3 года назад +10

      I had a thought that the ox was being humiliated!

    • @stevenharland556
      @stevenharland556 3 года назад +5

      @@georgealderson4424 ha ha,never thought of that,that cheered me up no end.good one.

    • @georgealderson4424
      @georgealderson4424 3 года назад +6

      @@stevenharland556 Glad I cheered you up as your picture did for me!

  • @gothikia
    @gothikia 2 года назад +65

    "In a house like this you don't want a bunch of midgets running about". Absolutely pissing myself laughing at this.

  • @jamesneedham6265
    @jamesneedham6265 3 года назад +155

    I would not be surprised if that small central London Terrace is worth more than the Scottish Castle

  • @brianrodney5202
    @brianrodney5202 3 года назад +71

    " The ermine is looking very unhappy " must be the best quote in this video.

  • @i.p.956
    @i.p.956 2 года назад +63

    "I'm here because of an accident of birth, and I didn't do anything to deserve this huge privilege" - one of the few rich people who is not self entitled, I like this man's modesty.

    • @dryroasted5599
      @dryroasted5599 2 года назад +3

      At some point during that segment, they said he owned a sign business in South Africa, and he had no ownership of the properties. It is run as a business to support the estate.

  • @kogababe
    @kogababe 4 года назад +129

    If I was walking around with that many titles, I'd have a note card in my wallet to remind me of what the hell they were

  • @mikewillis44
    @mikewillis44 3 года назад +223

    So the guy is sitting having a beer on the porch in some middle of nowhere dorpie and someone walks up to him and tells him he is now a Duke.

    • @mebsrea
      @mebsrea 3 года назад +12

      I was wondering about that myself. Did he know he was in line to inherit, or did it come as a total surprise to find out he was suddenly a duke?

    • @AntonGudenus
      @AntonGudenus 2 года назад +8

      @@mebsrea If he didn't know, somebody (most probably his father/grandfather wanting nothing to do with the family) must have actively kept him from knowing.
      Otherwise that's not something you forget.

    • @bigtim3060
      @bigtim3060 2 года назад +1

      @@AntonGudenus you wont forget that one of your relatives a long time ago was the second, and non-inheriting, son to a duke? Seems like something that could easely be forgotten about out on a farm in SA

    • @AntonGudenus
      @AntonGudenus 2 года назад

      ​@@bigtim3060 The 10th duke was his fathers second cousin once removed (so they share at least their great-grandfather). And given how prestigious the title is (both as a Duke and as the head of clan Murray) it is nearly certain, that some relatives, or even random people doing their own research, made them aware.
      Out of my own experience; you'd be surprised how many people do research on this subject and then randomly call the people they find with the research (mainly to further the research). Finding the heirs and lines of succession to random titles is a surprisingly widespread hobby.

  • @kirkreid743
    @kirkreid743 4 года назад +209

    A Duke whose ancestral home is now a Best Western...that would be my luck if I inherited a title. Lol.

    • @spartansas36
      @spartansas36 4 года назад +6

      The Duke of St albans then

    • @Austin8thGenTexan
      @Austin8thGenTexan 3 года назад +16

      ... with the family still buried in the hotel's garden ? Oh, my ! ⚰️

    • @simeon136
      @simeon136 3 года назад +9

      @@Austin8thGenTexan, I got married there in 2000.

    • @SSs-ch4ey
      @SSs-ch4ey 3 года назад +2

      Same

  • @katieosborn9345
    @katieosborn9345 4 года назад +273

    The duke of Atholl is very humble. That's very rare to see when it comes to aristocracy and quite nice. During the army games the Duchess is wearing jeans!! That's gotta be a first.

    • @olavwilhelm6843
      @olavwilhelm6843 4 года назад +12

      he is not humble , he is more or less a simpleton

    • @drewpamon
      @drewpamon 3 года назад +12

      I suspect most aristocrats are far different than the popular image.

    • @foxycinnamon7307
      @foxycinnamon7307 3 года назад +6

      @@drewpamon I was a bit surprised by the jeans AND a hoodie. By a duchess. Handing out prizes.

    • @IamLentil
      @IamLentil 3 года назад +3

      May he live a happy long life and stay as humble as always, respect 👏

    • @yagalpollyy3721
      @yagalpollyy3721 3 года назад +1

      or he's on camera

  • @marianoxerez
    @marianoxerez 3 года назад +40

    50:56 Ah those sweet family mementoes: "these are the socks and the hat he wore at his execution" hahahaha

  • @flamencoprof
    @flamencoprof 4 года назад +86

    07:34 LOL "..' my mother was roasting an ox".

    • @wfcoaker1398
      @wfcoaker1398 4 года назад +7

      I snorted my tea. Lol

    • @mad3arber
      @mad3arber 4 года назад +17

      Poshest thing said in this documentary

    • @marleneclough3173
      @marleneclough3173 4 года назад +12

      For the Coronation oxen wereroasted all over the country as part of the celebration

    • @flamencoprof
      @flamencoprof 4 года назад +7

      @@marleneclough3173 Thanks for the info. Here in NZ, it is not uncommon to roast whole sheep, in fact, an address not 500m from mine advertises a spit for hire for such a purpose. However, I have never heard of anyone ambitious enough to attempt roasting a whole cattle beast in the same way. Credits to the Brits for not only knowing how, but also having a tradition of doing so!

    • @maxschon7709
      @maxschon7709 4 года назад +8

      I am sure her mother was NOT reoasting the ox - herself- for that servants had to be.

  • @pete5668
    @pete5668 4 года назад +195

    You'd think the Queen would have the means to provide housing for these guys. That way she could say that she "put up her Dukes."

  • @dophan6938
    @dophan6938 4 года назад +58

    I spotted a lot of locations for "The Crown"
    I love it so much!

    • @iluvcamaros1912
      @iluvcamaros1912 4 года назад +9

      Blenheim is often used as a stand in for Buckingham Palace. It's in film Young Victoria too.

    • @mathbau
      @mathbau 3 года назад +4

      @@iluvcamaros1912 I think Dophan meant Belvoir Castle (38:15) - it was used to double for Windsor Castle.

  • @clintmacarthur7895
    @clintmacarthur7895 4 года назад +44

    We have a Viscount running our blood line, although my mother has the coronet out of concern he would sell it.

  • @marieconstantia4441
    @marieconstantia4441 3 года назад +30

    “My Mother was roasting an ox...”. I hated it when Mom did that.

    • @sarahsarah3945
      @sarahsarah3945 3 года назад +5

      She had to skip the Queen's wedding after-party because her mother was roasting an ox in the park 🤣

    • @michelebrowne418
      @michelebrowne418 2 года назад

      Can I have her recipe? 😉

  • @stevewallschlaeger1379
    @stevewallschlaeger1379 4 года назад +193

    I am glad that they all seem quite practical and on the whole very very unpretentious but I very much think it is sad that there isn't a bit more pride in the pagaentry of the title. Time does move forward

    • @c-r
      @c-r 4 года назад +5

      Guillotine all of them.

    • @incendior
      @incendior 3 года назад +21

      @@c-r bruh what the hell

    • @alalalala57
      @alalalala57 3 года назад +11

      @@c-r you first

    • @militzamadrid462
      @militzamadrid462 3 года назад +3

      ...probably if they would get help from the tax payers as the Queen AND her family does.

    • @bluehammy1
      @bluehammy1 3 года назад +3

      Pagaentry is fleeting and empty. People have to have a purpose in life.

  • @daisydemelker6360
    @daisydemelker6360 2 года назад +6

    Dude, I knew the Duke of Atholl from growing up in Louis Trichardt and went to school with his kids. This is insane.

  • @patriciahowellcassity767
    @patriciahowellcassity767 4 года назад +32

    Lovely documentary but too many commercials. Far too frustrating to watch to the end.

    • @dereks4131
      @dereks4131 4 года назад +2

      AdBlocker is your friend.

  • @rachelstechman5959
    @rachelstechman5959 2 года назад +5

    That Duke of Leeds' daughter's story is so SAD!! Having some stranger marry your dad for his title who sounds like the meanest stepmother ever. And she tells her story so matter of factly

  • @judechauhan6715
    @judechauhan6715 4 года назад +71

    I think the great thing about the women not wanting to be duchesses is that they realise it just adds stuff onto being rich instead of just being allowed to live a rich life you have to do stuff XD

    • @latishiabedwards1423
      @latishiabedwards1423 3 года назад +7

      I think that's what Kate Middleton realize. You have access to millions if not billions and yet you must spend most your time going to charities.

  • @traczebabe
    @traczebabe 4 года назад +50

    This is very interesting. I appreciate the history of it.

  • @crhu319
    @crhu319 3 года назад +7

    5:36 QEII saved the monarchy by sheer beauty and diligence... And that joyful image is sadly one of only a very few I've seen.
    It's not a life you would really want, under that scrutiny. The Dukes are probably happier to be forgotten.

  • @MustAvoidScurvy
    @MustAvoidScurvy Год назад +1

    I keep watching this documentary over and over again! Is so interesting! I hope that a follow up could be made

  • @cjluv3000
    @cjluv3000 2 года назад +7

    Very interesting. My grandmother on my father's side is a descendant of Duke Wyatt. He gave up his title for love and was exiled to South Africa.

  • @thepinkzebra
    @thepinkzebra 3 года назад +25

    I knew he was South African! Unmistakable accent. ❤❤❤

  • @Illumnia548
    @Illumnia548 4 года назад +15

    54:12 " not very interesting, but..." Love that casual disinterest in the servants quarters 😁😁😁

  • @therealgodessisis5004
    @therealgodessisis5004 4 года назад +49

    An acquaintance once told me a story about the wife of the Duke of something another, who gave birth to the child of Paul Robeson, the baby was secretly put up for adoption. There are many people with "aristocratic blood" floating around.

    • @djune286
      @djune286 4 года назад +10

      I am a descendant of Charlemagne but 80% of all Dutch people probably are. Charlemagne may have been my ancestor but it did not do much for us as a family. 400 years ago my ancestors were still in the class of landed gentry, then came a few vicars and schoolteachers followed by a few ancestors who worked as millers or shopkeepers and around the time of Napoleon they already had become poor, landless peasants. The downward spiral in my family tree is the most interesting thing about it.

    • @ingriddubbel8468
      @ingriddubbel8468 4 года назад +8

      Paul Robeson was very handsome and very refined. I imagine lots of women fell for him.

    • @derricklangford4725
      @derricklangford4725 3 года назад +4

      Wow, that's crazy 🤔 Ole Man River, was hitting Aristocratic WHOP

    • @lilymarinovic1644
      @lilymarinovic1644 3 года назад +5

      I would be way more proud to be related to Paul Robeson than some anonymous aristo tbh. An amazing person.

    • @crhu319
      @crhu319 3 года назад +3

      Robeson had an incredible voice. But being very black there would be no denying the baby was illegitimate lol

  • @anahansel3394
    @anahansel3394 4 года назад +56

    "He and his second wife" god the shade

  • @havingalook2
    @havingalook2 4 года назад +10

    That was simply brilliant. So informative. Many thanks indeed for presenting this. Cheers

  • @casketkitty9917
    @casketkitty9917 4 года назад +61

    I have always found this an interesting title. Because several Generations ago before my family migrated William Keith was a Duke but as the family's power slowly was chipped away they were forced into more mundane positions to acquire assets and eventually came to America resulting in me somewhere along the line. Always fascinating seeing where something start understanding how it progressed to what it is now and guessing out what could possibly come to be

    • @michaelk1621
      @michaelk1621 4 года назад +3

      Hey fellow Keith 🤗

    • @stevewallschlaeger1379
      @stevewallschlaeger1379 4 года назад

      Yes. Tell me more about that. What do you think it should become? What would you do if you were Duchess? Duke? They could have a beneficial effect? Would you want to emulate the Princess of Wales in cause of world peace and others? Or tell me more? Purpose right?

    • @gondwanaland3238
      @gondwanaland3238 4 года назад +3

      William Keith d 1581.4th Earl Marischal. Scots Nobleman and politician.
      Lived during the reign of James V and Mary Queen Of Scots. Was a member of Mary's privy council. Is this he William Kieth to whom you are referring?

    • @casketkitty9917
      @casketkitty9917 4 года назад +3

      @@gondwanaland3238 Actually yes. Although any connection to date has been eroded away. All that is left are a few documents marking land and a handful of letters floating around the family.

    • @scruffmcgruff03
      @scruffmcgruff03 4 года назад +1

      Most of the former southern colonial planter elite have a close connection to the aristocracy. Also a few Pennsylvania Quakers. The duchess of St. Albans is a massive twat

  • @tonicastel2390
    @tonicastel2390 4 года назад +10

    Very interesting. Thanks for posting.

  • @MichaelAndersxq28guy
    @MichaelAndersxq28guy 3 года назад +2

    What a well done, informative, video.
    What bloody LOUD music at the end. It almost blew the earbuds right out of my head.

  • @susansuewwilliams
    @susansuewwilliams 4 года назад +13

    As a historic and I think this is the most wonderful video of Dukedom
    Thank you!!

    • @ingriddubbel8468
      @ingriddubbel8468 4 года назад +3

      As a historic what?
      It's as a historian which you erroneously fancy yourself to be even though you don't know the proper title.

  • @coopsevy5664
    @coopsevy5664 4 года назад +3

    Very helpful and educational!

  • @prettyinpinky5937
    @prettyinpinky5937 4 года назад +58

    My town in South Africa has a part named Athlone Park and we have a Scottish Heritage and a festival called the Highland Gathering where the people of Scottish decent celebrate the Scottish Culture

    • @qwertyTRiG
      @qwertyTRiG 4 года назад +10

      But Athlone is an Irish town.

    • @itshenrique1753
      @itshenrique1753 3 года назад

      Bloody hell, you live in Toti don't you

    • @itshenrique1753
      @itshenrique1753 3 года назад

      I live near lords and legends. Small world ain't it

  • @oyiegeronimo
    @oyiegeronimo 4 года назад +149

    The landless duke’s wife is more stuck up than anyone else. For someone who just married into their “graceness”

    • @dlxmarks
      @dlxmarks 4 года назад +34

      She's rather cocky given she is his third (although probably final) duchess. I found her possessiveness ("Murray's coronet" "my coronet") more annoying. Most hereditary peers seem to realize that these are all family properties of which they are only the transitory custodians and tenants. Charles Beauclerk doesn't mention his own grandfather who succeeded to the tile at 49 as the second cousin to the previous duke. He was responsible for seriously damaging the family's finances..

    • @patrickmcshane7658
      @patrickmcshane7658 4 года назад +4

      Howabout calling her gracie?

    • @konniechung
      @konniechung 4 года назад +18

      I liked that she always gave credit where due..she wasn't emasculating...i didn't mind her...landless dukes wife..

    • @ingriddubbel8468
      @ingriddubbel8468 4 года назад +3

      Its not graceness; it would be their graces.

    • @tishbowman2990
      @tishbowman2990 4 года назад +11

      The damage done to the robes broke my heart!
      History left to rot.

  • @MCC4RTHY1
    @MCC4RTHY1 4 года назад +6

    Interesting. Thank you.

  • @aaronmaxwell7163
    @aaronmaxwell7163 2 года назад +3

    This again? Like... every month for YEARS this shows up for me to watch.

  • @MrSwifts31
    @MrSwifts31 4 года назад +35

    This quote from "The Importance of Being Earnest"may be a good motto for the aristocracy(past and present)
    "What between the duties expected of one during one’s lifetime, and the duties exacted from one after one’s death, land has ceased to be either a profit or a pleasure. It gives one position, and prevents one from keeping it up. That’s all that can be said about land"

  • @MattMorris481
    @MattMorris481 4 года назад +7

    The guy throwing the pole at 18:00 I would have been very happy to have him as linemen on my crew!

  • @leightonshehan7423
    @leightonshehan7423 3 года назад +9

    I love this documentary. I watch it every time it shows up on my recommended.

  • @iudvomberg8448
    @iudvomberg8448 3 года назад +54

    20:17 : the gender of a child is determined by the chromosome given by the male parent not the mother. So it was him struggling to produce an heir, not her.

  • @dlxmarks
    @dlxmarks 4 года назад +40

    I think Winston Churchill was the most recent candidate for being made a non-royal duke. He declined ostensibly to not interfere with his son's (already extinct) political career. In reality he didn't want to resign from the House of Commons and, as a matter of pride, didn't want to be compelled to live a duke's lifestyle since his finances were never very strong throughout his adult life.

    • @seevee9057
      @seevee9057 4 года назад +4

      But is it possible for two persons of the same family to have the title duke?

    • @dlxmarks
      @dlxmarks 4 года назад +12

      @@seevee9057 There's no prohibition against it but I think Winston knew his dukedom would compare poorly to the splendor of his Marlborough cousins.

    • @JBGARINGAN
      @JBGARINGAN 4 года назад +7

      No, one family can have multiple titles. Not necessarily by the same individual that's the whole point of intermarrying with other families to inherit their titles through one of your family.

    • @TheSynecdoche
      @TheSynecdoche 4 года назад +5

      @@seevee9057 Churchill was offered the dukedom of Dover, which didn't exist but would be created for him. For each ducal title there is only one duke, but Marlborough and Dover would be two different dukedoms.

    • @pedanticradiator1491
      @pedanticradiator1491 4 года назад +5

      Frits Burghardt he was offered Duke of London not Dover

  • @kimsymons715
    @kimsymons715 3 года назад +2

    This was wonderful....learned a lot. Thank you. 👸

  • @Orionbelt1991
    @Orionbelt1991 4 года назад +37

    46:36 got my rolling on the floor! How British and aristocratic at the same time

  • @thescarecrowcat
    @thescarecrowcat 4 года назад +15

    I enjoy this doc but honestly, it's been repackaged SO MANY times with different titles. Ugh.

  • @hqi1321
    @hqi1321 4 года назад +130

    It seems like so many of their stories are about a loss of purpose, and a yearning to make themselves whole again. What a sad bunch - I hope they find fulfillment in their lives.

    • @catsandcrafts171
      @catsandcrafts171 4 года назад +28

      Those who are working the land and running the estates seem the most contented - I think everyone needs to find a sense of worth and a purpose, and perhaps that is far more difficult when all practical needs are met via having titles and enough money. I found it quite melancholy in places.

    • @pillarservice9738
      @pillarservice9738 4 года назад +5

      Probably the more that the government is decentralized the less the vertical hierarchy is necessary..

    • @peterwimsey1
      @peterwimsey1 3 года назад +5

      getting a job and contributing to society would be a good way of finding fulfillment - like most people have to

    • @crhu319
      @crhu319 3 года назад +5

      They could form a Dukes trust or something. Up to them to find meaning in privelege.

    • @mayumimori3279
      @mayumimori3279 2 года назад +2

      @@peterwimsey1 it’s not like they didn’t work at all…

  • @WowUrFcknHxC
    @WowUrFcknHxC 4 года назад +24

    When you have so many titles you can't remember them all...

  • @dogguy8603
    @dogguy8603 4 года назад +38

    I am, technically, in line for an title, but it is INCREDIBLY distant, but its cool to say lol

  • @JohnYoo39
    @JohnYoo39 2 года назад +19

    There's an underlying theme of loss of direction and possibly depression with these modern aristocrats. I suppose it's pretty easy to forget what you have and obsess over things you can't have because the upper aristocracy is locked like living fossils, or what you could have had if mistakes weren't made by ancestors.
    And for those that don't obsess over having more, the realization that when you have what others wish they could have, and you're still unhappy, the problem might be you. Then they also lack the motivation to be a productive member of society, and they're reminded that the duties and obligations they may have had centuries ago are stripped from them, it all seems farcical and pointless.
    The people who got into regular jobs or are managing the estate as a business enterprise seem much more motivated.

  • @richardring272
    @richardring272 2 года назад +1

    I worked at Blenheim and during renovations I found the dukes coronet behind the organ in the long library.

  • @micheal49
    @micheal49 2 года назад +1

    Duchess of Rutland (??) sounds exactly like my favorite Oxford physicist. What a truly nice person she seems to be.

  • @Aarontlondon
    @Aarontlondon 4 года назад +10

    My partners grandfather is the younger son of a late Italian duke and the dukedoms are still inherited there like they are here in the UK. It’s even more weird there because Italy is so far removed from even having a monarchy!

    • @georgealderson4424
      @georgealderson4424 3 года назад

      Interesting

    • @promontorium
      @promontorium Год назад

      They pretend to inherit them. Like French "roayalty". The difference is, these British Dukes can have actual power. They can use their titles to get royal access or political power. That one Duke is authorized his own military. He doesn't do anything with it but make money, but he could.

  • @nemumami
    @nemumami 4 года назад +16

    that's lace from
    her: *from 1600 or whatever*

  • @hectorkeezy1499
    @hectorkeezy1499 2 года назад +2

    The Dutchess of Ruttland. What a fantastic Woman she is. Because of her, Beaver will go on for a very long time. What a powerhouse she is. Having five children, and running the estate, at the same time, shows the steel she has. That’s the kind of Women I love. More power to you, your Grace. 🇩🇰🙋🏻‍♂️😘

  • @loda9510
    @loda9510 4 года назад +1

    Very interesting

  • @numberpirate
    @numberpirate 4 года назад +18

    The duke of atholl is the only guys who could make kingsmen(the movie) real.

  • @petelosuaniu
    @petelosuaniu 4 года назад +19

    So these people still have real roles in the next coronation I heard. They have to actually be there. Anyway, if my grandmother was the queen, I would've hooked up with one of the Duchess of Rutland's girls. Gawd bligh me.

  • @jadecostello3325
    @jadecostello3325 2 года назад +2

    Love her pronunciation of "piano"! Reckon it is the posh version.

  • @bnap3221
    @bnap3221 2 года назад

    Makes men want to rewatch Brideshead Revisited

  • @TofuNapa
    @TofuNapa 4 года назад +159

    Seems like the Dukes are mostly Dukes in title only.

    • @realityvanguard2052
      @realityvanguard2052 4 года назад +12

      And renown and wealth, and some of them with castles, and some with armies and still great influence and power. Yeah but title only lol... did u even watch the whole show?

    • @TofuNapa
      @TofuNapa 4 года назад +49

      @@realityvanguard2052 I did watch it but apparently you missed the part where the documentary mentioned very few of them still had the wealth. 1 guy, only 1 had an army but are mostly made up of townfolks who comes together once a yr to play games so does that really count? I doubt they'll know what to do if China decides to invade. Most people interview are normal working class like the rest of us. A teacher, an accountant, a business man. Those with castles had to open them up to the public to generate revenue or risk losing it like the accountant Duke who's ancestral home is now a Best Western. Plus, if you think "renown" means being a regular at a restaurant you frequent like the Lady whose father was the last Duke in her bloodline, then I must be just as renown for everyone at Starbucks knows me!

    • @realityvanguard2052
      @realityvanguard2052 4 года назад +5

      @@TofuNapa Do you have an army?

    • @TofuNapa
      @TofuNapa 4 года назад +19

      @@realityvanguard2052 I don't, neither does the other dukes and their families. 😁

    • @SenorHybrido
      @SenorHybrido 4 года назад +16

      @Artere Laksamana Frankly speaking, after watching the show, I'd think that this current system is indeed saving taxpayers' money already. Imagine the government having to maintain all these oversized museums and hotels. Just maintaining a little section of that roof already costs 100k POUNDS, imagine maintaining and even revamping the rest of it (eg the wiring, bringing 4G and 5G service to them)! Not to mention it's just common sense that the civil servants will never be as efficient at running them as private companies, so if these guys can barely keep up, how will having the government take back these lands save them money?

  • @Laura-Yu
    @Laura-Yu 4 года назад +10

    Damn, what a history-

  • @Wood_969
    @Wood_969 3 года назад

    Amazing

  • @jenniferholden9397
    @jenniferholden9397 3 года назад +1

    There is also a Hornby Castle in Hornby, near Lancaster, Lancashire.

  • @glengattenby9567
    @glengattenby9567 4 года назад +3

    The Conyers were born at Hornby Castle. My mother’s was a converse and some have traced them to Hornby but not sure of the research behind the line.

  • @usamachaudhri7993
    @usamachaudhri7993 3 года назад +16

    I honestly wish new Dukedoms were still created. Long Live The Queen!

    • @borismedina8818
      @borismedina8818 3 года назад

      Me too

    • @kevsh4997
      @kevsh4997 3 года назад

      I agree!

    • @evacope1718
      @evacope1718 2 года назад +2

      They should be!! The monarchy should try hold onto as much tradition and custom as possible.

    • @JuanSanchezGuerra
      @JuanSanchezGuerra 2 года назад

      If you ask me, the concept of vitalico dukedoms for notable Brits is not a bad one.

    • @piusx8317
      @piusx8317 2 года назад

      @@evacope1718 Thank god they never will be

  • @chayheretoday9890
    @chayheretoday9890 2 года назад

    Living history, fascinating

  • @cindybogart6062
    @cindybogart6062 2 года назад +1

    I try extremely hard to understand these titles in the UK. It can be extremely confusing. Then they also change in various countries such as France. I ‘m sure it’s much more understandable if you grow up with all this. This was an extremely interesting programs & educational. Thank you.

  • @dukeofhaas
    @dukeofhaas 3 года назад +8

    Like most things in life, there is often a simple explanation for all the talk and predications regarding modern royal dukedoms and it is this: It is the longevity of the current Sovereign's life that has caused all of this discussion. At no time in British history has a reigning monarch lived to such an advanced age, thus causing royal titles to languish with the queen's increasingly older descendants. Looking at the death record of all the monarchs who ruled England/UK during the past 1,000 years, the average age of death is 49 (N= 58, range = 12 - 95 years). So if the current sovereign's reign followed the historic average, the current Prince of Wales would have ascended the throne decades ago, therefore Prince William would already be the current POW and Prince Henry the Duke of York. So the current situation occurred when a princess with longevity in her genes became queen at the tender age of 25 and then produced 4 equally healthy children. It's quite possible that the royal family are the only folks not worrying about this topic!
    [The previous text concerns royal dukes - not noble dukes - which is an entirely different kettle of fish.]

  • @WOTArtyNoobs
    @WOTArtyNoobs 2 года назад +6

    I was born in St Albans and virtually everyone in the city knows the story of the 1st Duke of St Albans and how Nell Gwyn hung him out of the window of Salisbury Hall threatening to drop her son to the yard below unless the King enobled him. Of course he did and it's true that St Albans was the nearest city that he could see. Salisbury Hall is also famous for being owned by the De Hallivand family and where the Mosquito fighter bomber was designed and now an aircraft museum. The citizens of St Albans are quite proud that there's not only Lord Verulam (the descendants of Sir Francis Bacon) but also a Duke and Duchess with the city's name too.

    • @ianevans2917
      @ianevans2917 2 года назад

      Funny how being a bastard only has currency among the aristocracy, many of whom appear proud of the fact that they are descendants of bastards.

  • @paulaburner
    @paulaburner 2 года назад +1

    1:14 haha, how he's struggeling to remember his titles 🤣 😂

  • @ReclusiveEagle
    @ReclusiveEagle 3 года назад +5

    46:37 Who tf drives around a car sipping coffee from a MUG. How? My mind

  • @heathermcd89
    @heathermcd89 2 года назад +4

    it would be nice for the daughters to be able to inherit the dukedom they were born in to, so it could continue.

  • @JodysJourney
    @JodysJourney 3 года назад +10

    Apparently the Duke of St. Albans is not only landless but also voiceless. 🤣🤣

    • @sammyboo.x3864
      @sammyboo.x3864 3 года назад +1

      Omg it was so hard to watch lol!

    • @angelaalbury986
      @angelaalbury986 Год назад

      The first Duke of St Albans was the son of Charles ll and Nell Gwynn.

  • @maryettamoody5079
    @maryettamoody5079 Месяц назад

    Lady roasting an ox for Woodstock wild

  • @tateghoul
    @tateghoul 3 года назад +2

    31:58 they should take that to a museum then

  • @ylvarasmussen625
    @ylvarasmussen625 3 года назад +7

    St Albans looks like he has no idea what's going on and the duchess is his brain.

  • @marquesdevalera7403
    @marquesdevalera7403 4 года назад +32

    The Duchess at 43:56 states that her younger son Hugo questioned when his older brother dies will he become Duke. The Duchess mistakenly stated that he would never become Duke but she is gave an inappropriate answer. According to the rule of primogeniture if Hugos elder brother dies without a son by a lawful wife then the ducal title passes to Hugo even if the elder brother has daughters and once Hugo died the ducal title would pass to his closest male relative. So it is possible that Hugo could become the next Duke after his brothers death or inherit it from their father should the elder brother predecease their father.

    • @SEELE-ONE
      @SEELE-ONE 4 года назад +35

      Alonso Valera shhh... white lie to prevent misterious deaths from happening...

    • @katieosborn9345
      @katieosborn9345 4 года назад +2

      They sure were adorable little boys.

    • @catsandcrafts171
      @catsandcrafts171 4 года назад +27

      Agreed, but I think she was trying to stop a child dwelling on the death of all his male family in order for him to become Duke... I'd probably give a similar answer; not entirely true, but also not untrue.

    • @dlxmarks
      @dlxmarks 4 года назад +10

      I guess she didn't want to get into a long discussion about heirs apparent versus heirs presumptive. Also the grimly glib concept of needing an "heir and a spare" which every estate tour guide loves to mention.

    • @iluvcamaros1912
      @iluvcamaros1912 4 года назад +1

      ​@@dlxmarks It sounds morbid, but within the royal family itself a deficit of males heirs often risked political chaos and civil war.

  • @donmac77
    @donmac77 2 года назад +1

    Lady Churchill is awesome!

  • @leosanvicente6539
    @leosanvicente6539 4 года назад +2

    what is the title of the music in 2:00?? anyone can help me coz i love it so much!!

    • @jamessergeant2136
      @jamessergeant2136 4 года назад +2

      'Zadok the Priest' by Handel - always played at Coronations.

    • @leosanvicente6539
      @leosanvicente6539 4 года назад

      @@jamessergeant2136 i searched for it and it did not match the music i wanted to know.! btw thanks 😉

    • @jamessergeant2136
      @jamessergeant2136 4 года назад +1

      cornelio lopena - sorry got it now. Handel Music for the Royal Fireworks, fourth movement, called 'Rejouissance'. You may like the rest of it too - great music. ruclips.net/video/Pq473x1rOrE/видео.html

    • @leosanvicente6539
      @leosanvicente6539 4 года назад

      thanks a lot . i will download it on my phone 🎼 😄😄

    • @Spike-yc5gx
      @Spike-yc5gx 2 года назад

      @@leosanvicente6539 Handel Queen of Sheba

  • @paulinbrooklyn
    @paulinbrooklyn 4 года назад +11

    Luckily the Duke of Atholl doesn’t have a lisp!

  • @adamb2216
    @adamb2216 2 года назад +5

    I figure that the whole system of dukes and earls will fade away, especially if the Queen (or future King) doesn’t swear in new ones. The ones that survive i think are more angling to be ultra-high end Bed and Breakfast places to make money, not exactly the same grandeur and power of the imperial past.

  • @102938475646665
    @102938475646665 2 года назад

    Bring back more dukes and make me one of them!

  • @mcdonaldlover9679
    @mcdonaldlover9679 2 года назад +1

    2:24 The person narrating this part is the brother of Princess Diana, Charles Spencer

  • @blueeyedscorpio7
    @blueeyedscorpio7 4 года назад +7

    Anyone know who the narrator is!? Almost sounds like Princess Diana's brother.

    • @stevethewomble
      @stevethewomble 2 года назад

      he is called Michael Waldman, it's in the credits @58:48

  • @forgottenpixel
    @forgottenpixel 4 года назад +9

    4:19 = my old age goals.

  • @mariatrouver9365
    @mariatrouver9365 3 года назад

    yes I agree history, repeat, you never change
    we don't trust you..... 🖤