PLEASE be good! - Kwumsy P2 Pro Triple Monitor
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I've been waiting for something like this for far too long. Getting work done on a laptop can be a pain with just one screen, but this $599 attachable display from Kwumsy/Ofiyaa allows you to have 3 monitors anywhere you can put your Macbook... or other 13.3-to-approximately-17-inch laptop.
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0:00 Intro
1:18 Portabl/Slidenjoy/Valerie
3:11 Project Valerie
3:44 Kwumsy Unboxing
5:58 Plugging in
11:43 Adam's Critiques
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13:10 "After realizing that, please don't mention OFIHAA and please don't tell the difference to your audience"
lol
TL;DR
Shhh. We don't know.
imagine in increases ofihaa sales more then clumsy's :D
I was about to come here and post that exact timestamp, but my rofl'ing delayed me... a lot
That was really funny, but kind of justified. From the company standpoint, they gain productivity by having two branches trying to market the same product and introducing competitivity. From the employee standpoint, they need to do better than the other branch. Neither sales team wants the sales of their counterpart to beat theirs, so with them making the first move for LTT, they want to get the dub.
Love the e-mail explaining the two company thing, specifically saying "Do not mention ofiyaa! Do not tell your audience about this!"...and LTT said "screw you, we are doing ALL of that!"
Yes, but to be fair they did still honor the spirit of that request. They barely mention the other name, while making Kwumsy sound kind of fitting. They gave it a good review and pointed us right to them.
I'm guessing a lot got lost in translation. I'm guessing it's more like "Hey, we worked really hard on this sponsorship, please don't give credit to our competing team" kinda thing. Which is fair, considering they aren't only competing for the same client base, but for the same company budget too. If Kwumsy spent their budget on promotion and marketing, but Ofiyaa get sales, then the OEM company might decide to sack the Kwumsy team for using more money, but getting less sales.
Pretty sure that email isn't even addressed to LMG. If you read it it says tik tok video.
@@EikottXD especially that Linus didn't mention that they sponsored him in any way. I understood it that he bought this unit all by himself.
I mean the Ofiyaa costs 150€ less then the Kwumsy so I am very happy to know that
I use the Mobile Pixel Trio. It's perfect for my small workspace in Tokyo. I also love how you are able to detach one of the screens and utilize it independently on a kickstand for something, like a switch. I recommend you check them out.
I also have these. Works like a charm, absolutely LTT should check them out. Im guessing they are alot better now them my old ones 🙂
That's the one I was thinking about! I think I was saw it a few time on Price is Right. Don't know why they don't seem to know about that one.
Yeah. While watching this, I was thinking, "He's making a big deal out of how no one else is doing this, but I'm sure I've seen various offerings for this sort of thing on Amazon alone."
Jay put out a video titled "I thought I wasted my money... Turns out I needed this all along!" where he went over an identical product from a company called TeamGee. I didn't even realize that this wasn't the same name as the Kwumsy in this video. In a follow-up video titled "I'm disappointed in myself... I need to make this right," he explained that the co-founder of a company called XEBEC contacted him to say that they are the patent holders and are suing TeamGee, and sent him an updated design with sliding screens.
I don't know how they can patent it, it's such a simple concept, 2 tablet sized displays on the side of a laptop. There's already so many copycats out there, and likely better/cheaper than Xebec. Why get $499 2 10 inch displays when you can get $350 2 12 inch displays instead? They all work about the same, similar mechanisms, USB-C/HDMI.
"Please don't mention Ofiyaa and please don't tell the difference to your audience" Welp, -1 point for Kwumsy (while I understand the intra-company struggle, you really shouldn't put yourself in a situation where you tell a review channel what not to tell their audience), and +1 for LTT not taking the bait.
That said, just the fact that they went through the additional effort of printing their quickstart guide in color - something I see very seldom in these kinds of direct-from-china products - _is_ a sign to me that at the very least they're not absolute charlatans (or if they are, they at least have some standards xD)
That was the single funniest point of the video for me. I fucking love this channel.
Email: "don't tell your audience"
LTT: what did ya say?
Another big flaw I saw in the video: when they played Doom, there is a huge delay on both screens - maybe about a second. So they are not suitable for gaming... Am I the only one who has seen this?
@@KookyBone that might just be because the laptop has a higher refresh rate display then the externals, the external display's only have a 60hz refresh rate, most gaming laptops these days have at least 120hz, now i'm not saying this is for sure the case in this case, as i don't recognize the laptop off hand and therefor can't look up to see what the laptops built in display's refresh rate is, but if i had to guess, i'd say this is likely the case here
@@mysteryboyee maybe, but I have never seen such a delay on my screens (which have 100&140hz). And it is really a huge delay... Not 1-2 frames, more like a second. This would have been great, if they tested it in the video and checked for a solution. Really @LTT !? You didn't check gaming on this device?
Finally! Linus can break three birds with one drop.
Lmao
8:32 the brightness control is probably linear, when brightness perception is logarithmic.
The displays were limited because they didn't have enough power. Once he plugged them in the peak brightness went up.
Mobile Pixels has been shipping lightweight attachable monitors like their Duex Pro for years from their own web store and on Amazon. I've purchased a couple of them for our productivity minded management staff at my workplace and aside from permanently affixing a few metal discs to the back of the laptop the monitors are incredibly easy to install and use. I recommend installing them with the base touching the tabletop you're using so that the side monitors have extra support. No laptop hinge is designed to carry 3 monitors.
Edit: watched further into the video and the Duex is also much lighter, each display works over one USBC or USBA cable (although type A uses a software display driver so lag and compression exists) and installs their drivers automatically upon connection or in many cases works without any drivers. I've never seen a Duex unit need additional driver installation, though I've never tried to connect one with USBA. The Duex is also able to be powered by the one USB cable and does not require any external power supply (but again, I've only ever used it on a Thunderbolt capable type C port).
And yes. These low power displays are not very bright or color accurate. None of them are.
A year or two ago, an out-of-town VIP was visiting our office and he had what seemed like an awesome portable 2nd monitor for his laptop! As a Field Supervisor, I kept trying to get them to order one for me, but, no dice!
@@Journeyman.71
I grabbed a portable monitor from a brand on Amazon called UPERFECT some time ago. QHD 16:10, 13.3" with pretty well calibrated panel from the factory with good service and documentation. Would recommend
Someone that ran a Kickstarter campaign once told me being 8 years late & not able to ship everything was still good... because they said "most kickstarters fail". I guess 🤷 thats just the mindset when there isn't really any negative consequences to not getting it right.
Just a side note... when a large amount of the people didn't get what they ordered the response to them was... if must of been there fault but they could reach out and sort it. To which evidently they were left on read after doing so.
I mean it's true but that's a really bad mindset, you should try to appease your promise to the investors to the best of your ability.
@DON'T CLICK ON PROFILE PHOTO Ok I won't. I'm not one to give in to curiosity by clicking on obviously baited shit.
If the kickstarter was honest and advertised as needing the money to try and finish development with no guarantee I would say cool, but they all lie and say they "just need the money to pay for manufacturing"
@@fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718 I was bored a couple weeks ago and decided to follow through. Basically, just ends with a Rickroll without fun 80s music or Rick Astley's cool dance moves.
That intro lol... Linus has come a long way as part comedian, part enterpreneur, part giganerd.
I just watched all his Old vids holy shot he has comed an Long Way and the tech has comed a Long way
@@Nickskating oh dear..
i could have never financially recover from it
the trauma would haunt me forever
it really just made my heart beat a hell faster
god
i was dead for a sec
He is also part Michael Scott
Part actor
This is a really cool concept, and I would love to see it get fine-tuned into something amazing. I can see this being a game changer for anyone that travels a lot for their work or even, depending on the price, being a primary multi-monitor solution for college students pursuing degrees in fields where this would greatly increase their productivity.
Linus is the type of guy to start a factory and engineering team to build stuff like this. Mark my words, this'll happen in 10-15 years.
|He need mr. Beast kind of money to do that. For now it's kind of hard, just look at what he did wit framework.
@@mygamechannel2300 True? But for that, all he needs are more sponsors, maybe a Patreon, and maybe making a product for Mr. Beast himself to make him an investor or something. They'd also need a lab, which they already do, or at least, they already have the building to turn into a lab. The 10-15 years thing might be too optimistic tho, not sure.
In 10-15 years more ppl will have good 3d printers lots of shared information and make it themselves. Or they will just use an Apple/Google-thing-whatever.
@@sergiofagundes1972 True? But that's more for North America, Western Europe, and East Asia. The rest of the world can barely afford inkjet or laser printers (especially the ink), let alone 3D printers.
@@moondust2365 South America isn't doing too badly mate. I'm pretty sure most of the population can afford a damn printer here in Brazil. 3D printers will most definitely go down in price, and I know some people who already own one or more.
“please don’t mention Ofiyaa“ Aah Kwumsy, you clearly haven’t watched enough LTT videos 😆
kudos to you guys for putting your own experiences with portbl/slidenjoy in the beginning there.
@DON'T CLICK ON PROFILE PHOTO don't delete your channel
How is what's being described literally not just outright fraud? Please tell me kickstarter banned them or puts a warning label on their campaign.
@@SixOThree what exactly makes you think that this is "outright fraud"?
There is no delivery guarantee on Kickstarter and as long as they are still working on that product it's not outright fraud.
A number of us bought these AFTER the kickstarter (the LTT video was after it). The kickstarter folks may or may not have fraud claims, but the rest of us certainly do.
As someone who has three 32" screens on my PC and still wants more screen area, I can definitely see the worth of this product for tiny laptops!
Wow, you don't have a silver spoon mate. Ye gots a gold spoon, and it's rhodium plated. Hahaha, now please be happy with what you currently have, because most people on Planet Earth have almost nothing. Well, a good half. You know?
@@jacobfoster5152 Wow, who pissed in your hat, i wasn't complaining about anything, you have issues.
@@jacobfoster5152 you're using youtube while there are starving kids in africa with 0 screens, sounds pretty privileged to be casting the first stone to me
@@stevefox3763 just gonna ignore that other guy 😅
i relate to that, but from 2 screens to 3. after being on a 1600x900 screen for years, i bought a used Dell P2214H last year as a 2nd screen. the improvement was massive, but eventually it began to get cramped.
so i bit the bullet and "splurged", replaced the two old screens and bought 3 Dell P2219Hs. pretty cheap surplus though, just 90$ each. now reading your comment got me scared on what if this setup eventually feels cramped 😣
@@CommandoTM The thing is no matter how much screen area you have you will use it and once used to using it you have so many things open at once that you start wanting more area lol.
That’s an incredible product, I can see getting a lot of use out of something like that. Especially if you don’t have room for a ultra wide monitor, or any monitor. Hopefully they’ll mKe a new version with some of those recommended fixes.
One of these companies sent me one free to review.
It’s awesome for vacations because you get 3 screens for content creating
i'm so glad you guys covered this product because i ended up with one as well. it's...not great, but it's functional. hoping another company improves on this design!
I really do hope there is a v2 version of this. The worst part of work travel is the sharp reduction in productivity related to the computer setup. I used to literally bring two laptops and use Mouse Without Borders.
This is not a product without a market. College students and people just wanting to save space are potential users as well.
They just need to get it "good enough" and I'm totally buying it. I dig it and I'm hopeful.
@@DestroyerV not everyone bouta drop a whole ass rack on a galaxy tablet g, just the 150 for a screen and be done
ideal design would be roll out folding oled displays. that would be lightweight and great image quality, but ungodly expensive.
@@sixgod5765 Could always just buy some used Galaxy tablet S6 for that 150. Hardware hardly matters there, as you are using it as a monitor.
@@DruidEnjoyer lmfao good luck using 8 inches then 💀 if it floats your boat bro go for it, but I can promise you not a single person will go out of their way to specifically get a tablet just to use as a screen 😂😭🤣 use your brain jeez
Honestly though, if it needs 2 cables to get full brightness anyway, you might as well get 1 or 2 separate mobile monitors, like the Lenovo L15 Mobile Monitor, for a lower price (+-200€ per screen, versus +-550€ for the Kwumsy P2 Pro), a less finicky and constrained setup, and a thinner transportable package.
I actually have Lenovo's M14t monitor. It's expensive for what it is for sure ($400-450 for the display assembly of a 2018 Yogabook essentially) with only 1080p resolution and 60Hz refresh rate. However, it's literally the only portable monitor I can find with a pen digitizer onboard; the rest are touch only.
Many midi controller also make use of an external power supply to reach full brightness. Some gimbals also need external power to reach full torque. It's nothing new. But then many portable external monitor do come with built-in batteries so that it's not sucking the laptop's battery.
It’s more a technical limitation than poor design, and I think having one connected together than two product helps with limited desk space
Ok, Lenovo...
@@davidmalkowski7850 if you want a pen digitizer on board a drawing tablet with display might have been a better option
Adam grows on me with every one of his videos. Seems like he really does his homework/prep work well.
That idea is awsome, looking forward to future updates.
My dad has an additional monitor for his laptop that attaches to the main screen, although that’s an add-on. I’m surprised it took this long for an official one that’s multi monitor out of the box to happen.
Could you please tell me what's your dad's plug-in monitor? If it's good, that is.
Linus has showcased a laptop like that before
@@j-janz The only ones I know of are the Thinkpad W700DS and W701DS. First one came with Core 2 Extremes, and W701DS is slightly more modern with Nehalem stuff, could max out with an i7 920XM, 8GB ram and Quadro FX 3800M, so not completely inept but still rather ancient.
My colleague bought the Duo attachable screen from kickstarter, he actually received it and it’s quite decent. Only one screen but much slimmer. I think Justine did a video review of it
@@j-janz Just checked, the only branding I could find is SideTrak. I’m pretty sure my dad’s work gave it to him.
Thanks for not giving into the requested lack of transparency to mention the competing (sale team's) version!
@DON'T CLICK ON PROFILE PHOTO the attention you desire is in this comment I’ve never bothered nor ever will
@@Leroys_Stuff Don't reply to the scambot
For someone that really needs several monitors for multitasking and is on business trips a lot I can see this be really useful. Set it up in the hotel room with power cables, get some remote work in, pack it up after and done. Probably fits in any bag and you can get a pouch for the cables, easy. Cool stuff.
The simplest, cheapest and most efficient way is probably to get the laptop you want + the portable monitor(s) you want and just plug them in. You can get way better specs that way.
The writing quality increased drastically recently. Keep up the great work! :*
I've had the Ofiyaa P2 (11") for a few months - it makes multi spreadsheet work a breeze - no more ALT-TABbing through when working across various spreaddys.
Also, good for those times when you are working but also able to side binge watch a series.
The Ofiyaa has a metal U shaped bracket to attach to the bottom of the rig to support the extra weight that is hanging off your laptop. Also, only has a faux suede bag to store the unit, also no SD slot. Plenty of cables to find a way to power it. Power ports are on the monitors not rig. Rig is sprung loaded.
I have mine rigged - laptop USB-C power into P2(1), P2(1) to P2(2), P2(2) to laptop USB-C power in. Quite a mass of cable spaghetti but it works a treat.
Instead of the included menu, for controlling the brightness you could use Twinkle Tray so you have similar menu in windows as for the laptop display
Ah. I use Win10_BrightnessSlider open source app to control my desktop monitors. I see Twinkle Tray is also open and similar enough. I do wonder whether these would work with these weird monitors to begin with, they might not have full DCC support, being developed by the company presumably quite oblivious to a lot of things.
Generally Monitorian is better in terms of memory usage, both do seem to have issues detecting my laptop display, so I usually use clickmonitorDcc, that one you can have each display as a system tray icon and scroll up/down to adjust brightness on them, so prefer for 1/2 monitor set-ups, at 3 it's too much scrolling for me.
@@Masterrunescapeer Was going to add my bit, same here, ClickMonitorDDC. I couldn't believe I still wasn't able to adjust display brightness through my PC on the desktop, it was unimaginable to me. This does everything I wanted, allows for easy shortcuts (like a custom dim mode, which I have set so all three of them vaguely match), and even makes colour calibration easier.
I've been seeing the Xebec Tri-Screen 2 advertised in the NYC subway. I just watched a review on it and it seems to fix the grievances with this model.
Been using the Kwumsy P2 Pro for a year now with my dual-screen Asus. So it’s a quad-monitor setup and so far it has worked flawlessly and effortlessly. No glitches or bugs and only one cable that brings power AND signal to the kwumsy screens. Also, to set them up and lock them into the screen takes no time and is done quite well. The mechanism is rather decent.
I would like to see Framework take on something like this in a modular fashion
Imagine if they added some metal contacts on the left and right side of the main monitor so it provides data and power. That way the monitors don’t require additional cables. Refine and fix some of the issues that were mentioned, and you have a sure winner.
@@ThatLaloBoy just slide them in at the sides... like Switch controllers :) should be doable
@@DanVibesTV along with some slide on/off cover to protect the contacts when not in use.
This would be genius
This was such a fun watch, before I noticed I had already watched the entire thing without looking away, good job
It's good to see how Linus owns past "mistakes".
I wonder if #integrity is a core value. Always learning post #kidkneecansir
Reminds me of BITD (early 2000s) I had some aftermarket powered speakers that would mount on your laptop screen. The design was actually decent and fleshed out.
There were two adhesive mounts that stuck on the back of the laptop monitor, the speakers slid onto those mounts for use and slid into each other for a compact package when not in use.
The speakers were powered by a PS/2 keyboard//mouse port which was universal on laptops of the era unlike USB believe it or not.
This is the type of video I enjoy, hope the company can improve on their product.
This is honestly something that still boggles my mind. I’ve never wanted more screens with my laptop. I just always accepted it as a limitation of portability, and this product hasn’t changed my mind. I’m not really excited about this solution, but maybe a decade from now the solution will be amazing.
@Rob I agree to this. I feel this is more for productivity for business oriented people not for gamers. I could really see this being used in small meetings or client briefings after the problems are ironed out.
It very much depends what you do on your laptop. As a developer I'm stuck attached to my desktop, I struggle every year when we go to our summer cabin, and I bring my laptop and 1 additional portable monitor, it's almost not even possible to do my job from one screen, when you need a reference design you are looking at, your code you are writing and the output of that work and you have 1 screen, it's just not doable. People do different things with a computer and people also work in different ways.
the issue is the mounting, you can buy way higher quality USB C/TB portable displays with touch with their own internal battery, and they're lighter and thinner. Just plop them down next to the laptop with their own kickstand. LTT has already done reviews of some of them.
@@flandrble I'd recommend getting a compact tablet stand from Amazon or something. They dramatically improved the stability and increase the viewing angles. Having used 5 different branded portable monitors all of their built-in stands and case-stand included have sucked.
I want this .... if I can convince a laptop manufacturer to make bigger batteries. But sadly, due to US plane regulations, laptop battery sizes have been frozen since 9-11
I've always wanted a solution like this, but didn't feel like I needed more screens! I've acquired many iPads and tablets over the years, so I created and use an attachment for them called Screenscene Mount. It works pretty well for what I need it for, and with 3rd party apps you can share your screen to your ipads/tablets.
That first segway was just great!!!
The three displays in the thumbnail represent my three stages of hope for this device.
Best of luck to the company. The recommendations are very useful for them, and they are close to getting something practical and usable!
There's a lot of portable monitors though, and it's hard to justify the Kwumsy over them. It's an awesome concept nonetheless!
13:08
"Please don't tell your audience about Ofiyaa.."
Linus: *posts the email itself*
Lol. Great bit of compliance there. 😅😂
While not 3 displays, I’ve been using a software package called Duet Display with my iPad on my Windows PC for about 5 years now. It gives me a pretty darn good second display when I’m on the road / away from my office. I’ve paired it with Ten One Designs “Mountie+” for pretty seamless operation. They update the software pretty frequently and offer a paid plan for extra features. Best part, the touch screen of the iPad works with Windows, if you need that type of things.
13:09 _"please don't tell the difference to your audience."_ goes and shows a screenshot of the whole email 😆
I hope we'll get to see more things like this. My laptop barely moves from its spot and setting up multiple monitors or a monitor arm is far from ideal in my situation, so having something you can just pack up and put away would be nice
why not use additional standard monitor?
I think with OLED burn in becoming less of a concern, a roll-up screen might be better than this contraption. You could have a 24" or possibly larger screen that's still portable and easy to carry around with a thin and light laptop. I don't see the need for it to be physically attached to the laptop to still be useful.
@@Lighthouse_out_of_order or just get a desktop. If you have a laptop that never moves or goes anywhere you might as well not use one
@@gotworc probably becaus laptops are cheaper. i dont know where you live or if its different for you but i bought a laptop with some specs for 500$
i found a desktop with the same specs for 900$
@@ahmed4363 Those aren't the same specs generally. Laptop CPUs have lower frequency and even core count sometimes, and gpus are also weaker on laptop when comparing equivalently named desktop variants. BTW, even if the CPU is said to have high boost clocks on the laptop, due to thermal constraints they are rarely reached.
Thanks for sharing this with us. Fascinating stuff.
There are quite a few products on the market to do something like this. Most support 1 monitor, then you can mount a 2nd version of it behind that first additional monitor. I can't remember off the top of my head what version we use at my MSP, but I haven't received a complaint from the 5-6 clients we ordered them for.
Interesting concept
Still surprising no large company has picked up on this niche though
Aside from laptops with bigger screens, you also have laptops with like an extra screen above the keyboard, or ultrawide. There are also very compact monitors you can carry with you, that aren't hanging from you laptop.
I like the idea, but unless it's a build in future, I don't see how carrying this big package with you is going to be something useful.
That moment until Linus realizes that there's a developer out there that has 7 displays on a laptop...
What I need a link to this
Sadly they no longer seem to be active as far as I can tell
Bringing a product to market affordably and whatever is happening with the expanscape website throwing back forbidden errors right now aren't exactly the same thing
I expected that it was from 10 years ago, so the 4K displays and multiple RTX 3070's was quite a surprise
Waiting for your comment displayed or talked about in an upcoming LTT video
I'am using WEICHENSI DQ30 1080P 17,3" 144 Hz since two years with my 17,3" 144 Hz laptop and this is great setup. It's portable, have light artificial leather stand, 2x USB-C and HDMI. I measured 1100:1 contrast and 240cd/m2.
im so glad i watched this review because i nearly bought this because its been flashing up on the social media alot !! i taught it would be a better choice for my laptop as im starting to learn some tech skills i really taught it was a decent product untill i saw this thanks very much guys i really appreciate the honest review !!! i can see now that its just not worth the hasstle or money !!
Would be interested in getting a similar review for the Xebec Tri-Screen 2 - it’s a US-based company with a very similar product and minus sketchy driver installation shenanigans.
This 100%. Their product looks far superior and seems to do what they actually want the Kwumsy to do.
I have an Xebec and love it
@@731Wam Is there any lag? Hows the brightness?
@@bobbleczar no lag as each screen is recognized as a standard monitor no drivers required. As for brightness I’m not sure on the exact specs but it is bright enough that I can use it outside.
But the monitors are TINY.
By Linus' Beard.. The holy myths of a three monitor laptop has finally come to reality. This cannot be..
Well made video, not sure if Paul is new but good job!
loved the shade in the sponsor segment with the emojis
Out of all the languages Linus could speak, he chose to speak violence.
With the time LTT videos got a lot of production value, now it's like watching a mini skit with humorous touchs.
I love the direction they're taking for this, good job!
That's awesome you are shooting videos again at your home, like good old times.
This is a pretty neat product, but from the looks of it, I think we are still better suited buying a single portable monitor. There are several reputable brands making them these days, some even come with built in batteries to alleviate the load on the laptop when you aren't near an outlet. They also tend to be much thinner for backpack carrying, and you can get much larger screens than the little 13" fellows on this product. I have been strongly considering acquiring one, but I have a desktop with multiple monitors and use that for most of my productivity work.
This actually seems really cool. Awkward for the moment but definitely pretty cool. If the two companies wanted to separate a bit more they could go two different routes with the same product; like, one cutting down on weight for portability while the other adds a battery, making it heavier but able to power itself for longevity. Then, each brand has a purpose and the different development teams can work cooperatively to make a better overall product while still having their own design spaces; what benefits the lightness of one will benefit the other, what helps make the battery last longer will help the longevity of the other, that sort of thing. In the meantime, consumers get a choice of portability vs battery life, which... honestly, probably ought to be offered anyway lol.
This is actually a weird (and slightly creepy) strategy for a lot of startups from China making niche electronics. You can see a lot of this on Amazon as well where you have these "brands" that look just like a jumble of random characters selling a lot of similar stuff (from electronics to clothing to toys to random gadgets).
Basically some OEM/white label manufacturer in China makes something interesting and wants to sell it overseas. But they have no brand recognition and don't really know what branding would work for their thing in the target market. So they generate a bunch of random "brand" names and put competing sales teams on each of these "virtual" brands. Each team tries different strategies (SEO, ADs, keywords, product pics, paying for reviews, reaching out to influencers etc.) for selling same product, and then after, say, a couple of months, they weed out the underperforming "brands"/teams and rinse and repeat. With a couple of cycles you end up with one working "brand name" plus a _ton_ of insight into how to get ranked highly on Amazon (what works, what doesn't, what gets you banned etc.) There's companies that specialize in doing this whole thing that sell their services to OEMs.
This is how we get brands like Anker, Aukey, Ugreen etc. Basically they're running an evolutionary algorithm with real people and throwaway brand names and seeing what natural selection ends up with. Quite dystopian if you think about it.
Exactly. That's the major benefit of two companies sharing designs. No one product is going to fit the whole market. By sharing products, they share the initial R&D. From there, each company should tweak it to their target market or create different versions to cater to each of their companies target markets. This how GM / Chevy, Ford / Lincoln, etc work. They share the initial design costs for the key components then go their separate ways for the final touches. There are very few reasons for two sister companies two sell the same exact product. For one, this means they are competitive against one another (without regiona mlarket agreements) which can foster toxicity between the companies and their leadership. But for two, why double on costs like HR, and basically have a fractured company? The whole point of sister companies is to allow each company to focus it's particular mission. The company I work for a has a sister company (owned by my company) in our office. We rarely interact. If I type any of their names into Outlook they don't pop up (like do for all 3000+ employees that work for my company). It's a net negative to have shared designs with a sister company and them their away the cost savings by selly literally the exact same product.
I use my (android) tablets for on-the-go multi screen capabilities. When I was in college people would always curious then jealous when they saw my three monitor setup. It was two 12" android tablets, and two USB cables (for driving the image to the tablets). That was in 2016 lol. But multiple monitors *anywhere I want* was a game changer for having a mobile office in my backpack. I could be equally productive aty home office, in the library, or at the university Round Table with a beer etc. So the value in the product is absolutely there for people who rely must be work efficient while mobile.
BUT, I will never purchase this type of product unless it is significantly lighter than my two tablets combined. PLUS, at $600 for the Kwumsy P2 - you can EASILY buy two used large form android tablets and then you have two monitors AND two more smart devices to use for any purpose WITH a built in battery so it won't drain your laptop if you keep them topped off.
If the P2 was MUCH lighter, had much better displays (my Samsung tablet have a 1440p very bright display), and built in internal battery to not needlessly drain my laptop I'd definitely buy it even at $1000 if could offer all of those things it would be a business trip staple and I could probably get my company to buy it for me.
Honesty a pretty weak start for this company. This thing needed way more TLC for the engineering dept.
Too bad either of these brands dont exist, infact they are both drop shipping store made by random people. They resell things on ali express for usually around 3x what they paid. Simply look up "Triple Monitor Screen Extender" on Ali Express and not only will you find the exact screen in this video but tons of other screens. Neither of them are legitimate companies. They are making around 250 dollars reselling a product they didn't even have to think up.
Despite the clumsiness this seems great, my work gave me a 13" laptop and a asus second screen which seems as good and clumsy as those screens and yet only has one additional panel. Could definitely see it being used for jobs where people have to go to client sites all the time as you can easily take laptop + screens and then plug into mains.
I love how they just showed the email where Kwumsy asked them to leave something out of their review. Honestly great job guys.
I would also suggest shrinking the bezel on the bottom and, if necessary, expanding it on the top. As mentioned, there isn't a lot of space on the bottom while there's effectively unlimited space above it.
I love how you guys upload every Sunday at 10:00AM PST. Watch your video before my shift every Sunday.
Linus Intros are always intriguing
I almost bought one today based on the video from 5 yrs ago. Thank God I looked for an updated review
I love seeing practical products
I've got the OFIYAA dual displays P2. I really like them, and I use them for when I've been working out in the field, or sitting in my armchair for evening jobs. Really a practical solution, although a bit heavy. It's lighter than my homemade solution though 😅
whats your homemade solution
More videos! Now that I have night shift i really need them
=D
I actually just got a KYY portable monitor today and so far I like it. 1080P with HDR (My other monitors are a 4K and 1080P without HDR) and the price (albeit on sale) wasn't bad. It has 2 USB-C full function ports and a micro or mini HDMI (I always forget which synonym for small they use). Pretty sure it's also a Chinese brand and the documentation is limited but honestly not too bad. It does say in the manual that you may need to use a separate power supply for full brightness (I think it said something about power saving presumably for the connected device). Only issue I've run into so far is that I can't get my Android phone to display portrait mode in a vertical orientation but that's apparently an Android issue with the only solution being to use some commands that require root access (I'm not rooting my phone since I'm concerned it will cause issues with my bank and insurance apps). Since both USB-C ports are full function I can use either one for power and the other for video and so long as the charger is powerful enough (it came with a small 2.4 Amp wall-wart) it can actually power the monitor and charge the connected device (works on my phone, haven't tried it with my Pi400 yet but I'm thinking those'll need more power). To be clear I've only just received the thing so I don't know how it will last long term but it looks pretty good for the price so far.
EDIT: A question for actual humans since our search overlords (I've tried both DDG and Google) can't understand my query. How do I figure out what images and/or videos I have saved on my Windows 10 computer are HDR. I'm pretty sure my phone takes HDR images but they're still just JPGs so how can I sift through images on my computer to figure out which ones actually have HDR content (I'm pretty sure it's a different codec like JFIF vs EXIF but I can't find a way to actually organize things by the codec only the capsule). Since I didn't have HDR capability before (except on my phone) I've never put much thought into it but since do now have a device that display HDR images on my Windows computer I'd like to be able to search for them.
honestly looking forward to seeing how kwumsy improves over time, i find the use of google drive to send drivers quite cute
I'm very excited to see this idea be refined over time. Deffs interested, just not for me in its current state.
6:41 Linus Drops Tips
10:42 I think it's great! They came through and it works well.
That segue at 0:50 was the best I've ever seen.
Did no one else notice "six hundred fifty thousand" for 600,500? Lol 0:33
I loved the criticism section of the video; specially since it includes suggestion on how to improve it. Hopefully the manufacturer will see the video and make a v2 of this product.
I personally think that most modern laptops have a very weak hinge to support the weight of the extra monitors. So, I think that they should strengthen the stand have that to be the main support while the laptop monitor would be more like a guide for the placement, alignment and centering of the folding monitors.
Nailed it with the hinge comment. Take apart most modern plastic laptops and the hinge assembly attachments will likely crumble.
I agree. Said to another commenter that I'd like to see, at a minimum in a V2, a double-kickstand solution that will take the strain more effectively.
I mean, can you imagine trying to use something like this with a Surface Pro, for instance? It'd be hellish.
Xebec makes one of these as well and solves some of the issues addressed at the end.
0:16 bro the bible wallpaper is funny lol
1:16 Just why?
Why *not* ?
10:10 i would say 2 cables for 2 monitors is a pretty good deal
This is honestly such a good concept
and being able to brag about 3 monitors… in a laptop… everywhere you go
That segue to your sponsor was fantastic
I feel like the tech world has created 10x crazier products. Considering all of its uses, this doesn't seem so far-fetched of a product. It's just crazy to me how long it took for an ACTUAL version of this product to exist.
10x crazier products? you mean like the smart toothbrush?
@@bookvee smart toilets.
no need for music in the bathroom. all you ever need to do on a toilet is flush it
@@ahmed4363 Saw a digital radio a few months ago which was built into a can opener. Apparently it only actually worked while the thing was running.
@@bookvee okay thats next level i need that
@@bookvee I guess by crazier I don't really mean better, just out there lmao
Dude, I remember (edit: 5) years ago when you talked about the original concept products.
I think it's taken WAY too long for manufacturers to release anything that does this. It would have been the BIGGEST thing back then, and now it's like "cool, but I expected that"
honestly, 1, kudos to Kwumsy for answer the question about the brands, and 2, if my lifestyle warranted a laptop and 3 displays (which it may in the future) id get this cuz it it seems super useful and the extra weight in a bag doesnt mean much to since im used to humping a fair amount of gear anyway cuz i go hunting and stuff
So I have an option that may work for some. I use a small viewsonic projector as a secondary monitor. It allows me to have a large or small monitor at a moments notice. My laptop also keeps the battery charged and display all with one cable. Just a thought.
I know the CEO of this company. When I asked him how he named it, he said that he asked his 4 year old what he thought of the product and he said "Clumsy", but as he was only 4 it sounded more like Kwumsy. The more you know 💫
"CEO" dawg what he is just dropshipping 😭
0:01 the macbook got yeeted
bruh
The fact Linus pointed out the kerning issue on the Kwumsy logo actually made my day
This is really a cool idea.
Hopefully it becomes more mainstream
I would really like to see an LCD or OLDED that can be rolled up like a mousepad or folded up like you would a closed cell phone sleeping mat. For storage it either has a hard tube/case to put it in or can just be stowed rolled or folded up. You can then whip out an extra screen pretty much anytime you need it and it will take up much less space than carrying an extra monitor around or having this clearly bad solution of slide out monitors built into your laptop.
Flexible displays are a compromise though and they would inevitable appear a bit wrinkled. I think these can be improved by being OLED and being just really thing and light so they don't need the giant mounting bracket.
I’m already doing something like this. I use Apple m1 max with my new iPad Pro and my old iPad Pro with side car and Luna display. Because neither will let you use both screens but if you use one iPad with Luna and one with sidecar and it works great. Very bright, everything had its own battery and no wires needed. But can also plug them in if you wanted less lag. Best thing about it is it all fits into my backpack and takes up no space. But very expensive. 🤷🏻♂️
I really like the idea. Can be improved by a lot, though.
A sponsor segue compilation video should do well. Also the LTT store injects lol.
Closest thing LTT themselves made to that was their April Fools 2022 video
I like the concept, but I think going with a triple widescreen display was a mistake.
I think it would be a better idea to have the side monitors keep the same hegiht, but go with portrait orientation.
You've still got the central widescreen for media viewing, while the side monitors can work well for word processing, web browsing, file browsing, etc.
This will cut down on cost, power demand, weight, and desk space. And i think the utility lost should be pretty minimal for most users.
The problem with this is that for web browsing you really need a minimum horizontal resolution of 1024px, since 1024x768 is the smallest common desktop screen resolution so that's what websites are often designed for. Unfortunately when you cut a 1080p monitor in half you only get a horizontal resolution of 960px, so get ready for a lot of horizontal scroll bars
@@chrisnightingale6917 Looks like 960p is pretty standard for web pages, but scrollbars take up a bit of space, so, 2x 1080x960 does have the issue you mentioned.
Thanks for bringing it up.
2x 1080x1024 would be ideal it seems, but is very much non-standard.
1920x1080 with 6" and 7" diagonals are on the market, and would fit the form factor nicely. The drawback would be the 1920 vertical pixels would be a notably higher pixel density than most laptop screens, so windows on the side screens would appear smaller than on the laptop screen.
There are some drawbacks to all 3 variants (these 2 and the real one.) I think I would still take either of dual portrait versions over the official version, but definitely a matter of taste.
0:51 Linus, bud, you're more kwumsy just being yourself, no need to add salt and cured pork products into the mix.
I thought this was a cool option a few years ago. Now with portable USB c displays that are getting quite nice. Light and have a battery in them and the ability to use wireless screen sharing (at least in windows) I often use an old surface pro 5 as a second display. Repurposing a product that still works but maybe not for what I need it to anymore.
Alternative: get the screen of an old/broken laptop, mount it in a frame with the controller board and you get a light portable monitor for cheap. I got the controller + frame for 25 USD with a simple stand included. Depending on the model of the screen it can be powered with the USB of the laptop or a power bank (if used with a smartphone/portable console).
Linus acting skills improving…? Not sure.
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I love how Kwumsy mentioned in email to not mention another brand, but LTT do it anyway cus that's just how they do things 🤣
Hopefully the marketing team doesn't get fired, at any rate, a positive reviews from LTT probably worked really well for the company
Thank God this video exists because I had just recently seen that Portabl Slide thing in a Daily Dose of Internet vid and was planning on buying it eventually… but apparently it’s a scam.
Your segues are getting better - if that was even possible!