Hey to all G2 fans, you have a chance. G2 is still a strong team and BLG is shakey all through out. It's not gonna be an east task but just believe in G2!
@@hellooo12 Dreaming if it is not possible. Look how shakey BLG is mostly in the early game. Saying there is chance don't mean it's a 100% chance but could go from 1%-99% depending on the situation. Seems like you're life is a mess right now and you seem to have no chance fixing it. This is a game. You have real life issues lol.
@@canadat4380 Exactly! Also even if you make out to swiss, there are no weak teams left there besides Fly or TL which are not that easy too. Praying for a good match up in swiss makes no sense but securing a spot next round.
There's absolutely a ramp up in skill and comfort as the tournament goes on. Easier teams earlier on allow you to figure out the meta and practice strategies to fight against it. And you don't have to play the best teams anyways. Look at TL's road
@@tryyonsmith4578you have to think about it in terms of probabilities, because that’s how it works in practice. A good draw will absolutely improve your chances at winning.
And no one will remember that next Worlds. All the LPL teams getting eliminated by T1 last year was more hilarious especially with the angry LPL fans, and people will remember that for years to come.
@@DanteLovesPizza uhh nope, the game is dead af lmao the only hilarious ones are angry LCK fans because once the game is completely dead no one even knows what LCK is and China and tencent are the ones benefits from all ur money and views because the game is owned by them, ez money
@@FynnRosenzweig The game can die and people will still remember LPL getting stomped by LCK. It's not just a game thing, it's a national pride thing, and China takes that pretty seriously if you're not familiar with the CCP. What you say is ironic, because LPL fans will be the ones who remember the shame.
Fnatic picked red side and last picked swain into ahri, Ezreal, and Rakan. Not to mention Gnar and Skarner, absolute best case scenario is you kill one of them as they peel Swain away. Which didn’t even happen because the team was mobile enough to stay away. Fnatic need to get rid of the coaches and humanoid asap
FLY-TL and G2-BLG is crazy. One NA team will qualify by having beaten two minor teams and the other NA team, while G2 has faced HLE, T1 and BLG. If they somehow get out of this it's a miracle
Its hilarious how many people are crying and thinks somehow the draws are rigged. G2 got unlucky with their draws, that's it. It happens. There are many teams in the past have had draws where they only had to beat weak/minor region teams to get past groups, yet somehow its a conspiracy because it happened here? Btw, all MAD had to do was beat GAM and they could literally be in the exact same situation as TL and if they had beaten TL they would also qualify by beating only weaker teams. So the only difference here is that MAD couldn't do what TL could. Besides, if you aren't incredibly biased, TL and FLY have easily been better than FNC/MAD. G2 also haven't shown anything to suggest they are better than FLY this tournament. FLY did take a map off HLE and G2's game against HLE wasn't close as a lot of people love to pretend. The game was long over but the baron steal just delayed it and Yone was splitting all game because they couldn't win a single 5v5 after 25 mins and after HLE got baron, the game ended immediately after. TL despite losing in their first two games, played the early game better than G2/FNC every did against any of the top teams, so stop pretending like the EU teams have done anything. The best performing team from the west right now is literally FLY and once any of these teams end up playing after the group stages they are all screwed anyways, so lets stop pretending that it matters anways.
Wow. Statistically it's expected that one team gets through Swiss only beating Western or minor region teams, but the chance of NA being guaranteed to do it without beating an LEC team either is miniscule. Meanwhile, G2 get the reverse, facing 4 LPL or LCK teams for the 2nd year running. For 2 years now G2 have been the only Western team to win a series vs an LPL or LCK team, and unless they beat the LPL champions they'll be knocked out a 2nd time. At least NRG had to beat LEC teams last year to qualify last year (and they beat all of them). That's the luck of the Swiss draw, but it's such a shame to see no NA vs EU games this year (at least unless we get a G2 vs TL/FLY semi...). Both NA and EU have had good moments at worlds - FLY taking a game off HLE, FNC off Weibo, G2 beating Weibo and taking HLE to the longest game - it'd be great to see how the two regions face up against each other.
When EU can stop being a 1 region team they wouldn't be having these results. EU get mad at MDK and FNC they couldn't beat the wildcard teams that FLY and TL beat now you want to get mad at NA blame yourselves! You had 2 other teams that can't even beat the wildcard regions. Sounds like a skill issue.
Fun fact: If the Worlds format was played with 8 professional teams and 8 teams comprised of literal monkeys from a zoo, on average one of the teams with monkeys would escape Swiss and make top 8.
Tomorrow either DK will lose to LPL and go out or WBG will remain winless against LCK and bring Theshy back for next year also FLY or TL will eventually make it to quarterfinals instead of G2 that got cursed by T1 and go home by BLG😂
agree. Why does it have to be dk vs wbg , tl vs fly , blg vs g2. I wanted dk, wbg and blg to not fight each other and win. oh well quarterfinal is gonna be more insane. if anyone fight against the NA teams, instant win
I'd like WBG to win, because of Light, he could have chased 2 pentas, but as you can see, he was only focused on winning the match, same way he was Vs JDG at LPL Regionals.
FLY-TL and G2-BLG is crazy. One NA team will qualify by having beaten two minor teams and the other NA team, while G2 has faced HLE, T1 and BLG. If they somehow get out of this it's a miracle
The whole format is dumb. BO1 is terrible. Swiss no rematches needs thrown out. Can’t wait for fearless draft as long as it’s done like NACL and not how the LPL tried it
Picking red side is basically picking yourself into a disadvantage. Not sure if it's disrespect, over confidence, idiocy, or a mixture and/or combination. Up until that game, there have been 17 red side wins out of 41 games in the main stage. It doesn't seem so bad when it's almost half, that is, until you realise most of the red side winners are vastly superior over their opponents, DK vs FNC, LNG vs TL, TL vs PNG, etc. There's an obvious blue side advantage on many levels, and it's been the same situation for many years now. You don't need statistics to make this side selection decision. Ayumu could do better, and he's a chimpanzee.
How would you balance that? Giving red side extra bans? Giving red side two last picks? Giving red side a hit of Vyvanse? Not flaming but it seems any advantage you give to red side can be very easily abused by a good team
@@killeryodellingmonkey4192 To be honest, if you want to balance it as much as possible, you need to identify what the blue side advantages are and eliminate them as much as possible. For example, one of the most obvious advantages is pick and bans. Blue side can target ban because they have first pick, red side ALWAYS has to ban "the OP meta" champions other they give it over. There was a brief period where red side was the more favourable side as they can counter pick last, but this issue remained, so it's obvious this needs to be addressed. We've seen so many matches where team strength is close, but the first team to play on blue side wins because every single win was on blue side. One way to offset this is to make the last game a blind pick when the scores are tied. OGN used to run this format, in a best of 5, if the match went to game 5, it was a blind pick game. Please tell me, how will this get abused? Right, it can't be. They can even extend this to best of 3s and even use blind pick for best of 1s. When every match counts in the Swiss stage, the most important thing is to eliminate as many innate factors that cause the game to be unbalanced as possible. Unlike the old group format, teams don't play on one side each against the same team as a way to give both teams the same advantage, so with the Swiss format, this becomes more important. Rito hates the idea because they don't like fair and fun, so, what can you do? The solution exists, Rito just won't implement it.
@@DanteLovesPizza well duh. I'd say the largest advantage blue side has is first pick. It forces red side to ban the strongest champs or risk playing against them. This is arguably counteracted by red side's last pick, where they can counter pick a particular champ or pull out an unexpected pick. So outside of that. What's the difference?
@@DanteLovesPizza Well i would say that the biggest addvatage of blue side is that its the strongest team that picks witch side, and thats why its so lobsided. Blue side is a small addvatage but not as large as the statistics would sugest.
@@Benji877 That's a part of the problem now. In previous tournaments with the group stage format and double round robin, teams played on both sides once. Side selection also gets decided by a coin toss in a best of 5 (not sure if it's still the case,) and there have been quite a number of best of three and best of five matches throughout the domestics and internationals that have seen blue side victories only. It's not just a "stronger team gets to pick" issue, it's a legitimate issue, and it's been like this for years, but Rito just refuses to do anything about it. A small advantage between two teams that are close in strength makes all the difference between a win and a lose.
riot is na-based,so they want at least 1 local team at worlds.that's why g2 had to play against all the strong teams (lck and lpl first seeds,world champions and world finalists) while tl only got minor regions after getting stomped
@aaabbb-zc7sx lmfao do you also believe in flat earth? Why would riot intentionally avoid the most hyped up matches possible for worlds? NA vs EU brings more attention than any of the other matchups. The only other matchup that would be close is #1 LCK vs #1 LPL.
Honestly, it feels kinda unfair to both us and the rest of the 2-2 teams. We've seen this match before both in Spring and Summer in LCS. Each team won one.. and they both look to have finally come into form now so yet again, it's a 50-50 on who wins that one.. on the other hand, all of NA is a bit inferior by compare to the East. I would love to have had a chance to see them play against G2 or DPlus Kia. On top of that, it'd give NA the opportunity (if they got lucky) to get two teams out of Swiss.. or on the opposite side, it'd give the Eastern teams a better chance to get out of Swiss themselves. All-in-all, it'd just be a win-win to avoid the same-region match.. it's really disappointing to see this so early on in Worlds.
@@Darkstormsun9865 It's not a hard draw because you have 1, or even 2, hard matches vs top teams, and any team can lose 2 and still go through. It's a hard draw if you have to beat multiple LPL or LCK teams to get through, or one of their top teams. G2 has to do both this year - beat the reigning LPL champ after already having beaten Weibo. No NA team has to beat any LPL or LCK team to qualify, let alone one of their top ones or multiple of them. I fact, for 2 years NA has got a team out of Swiss beating 0 LPL or LCK teams, this year not even needing to beat an LEC team - just minor regions and each other. Meanwhile G2 faced 4 LPL or LCK teams each year. It's pretty clear ones a hard draw and the others aren't!
@@HigherKaiju It's only about whether or not you advance by drawing LPL/LCK teams in an elimination Bo3 match, seeds are irrelevant. DK, 3rd seed, it's way worst than T1, 4th seed, but still DK just won over FNC & FLY. Like previous year, 5 first teams qualified were LCK/LPL.
@@80AM.Nah, I reckon G2 are a similar level to a 3rd or 4th seed LPL or LCK team, so 2-2 is exactly where I'd expect them to be. Having to beat the LPL #1 seed to qualify - easily the hardest team left in 2-2 - is still harsh though, especially having already beaten the other LPL team left in the 2-2 bracket.
congrats to tl for barely making it to 2-2 after losing to every major region they played against,and my condolences to g2 for their game against blg tomorrow.looks like fly will be the only western team at worlds(and the first to fly home)
FNC are a joke. A bunch of kids unable to make a decision. The amount of time they just stood waiting in the jungle is ridiculous. Let a different team go to worlds next time, you're wasting everybody's time.
As a League fan I can honestly say I'm sad that instead of getting an epic 5 match banger between 2 competitive teams, a slot is gonna be wasted on a 3-0 stomp.
If you say so.... G2 was supposed to be a 3-0 stomp too a couple years back but ended up making a run. 99.999% chance NA loses but even so that 0.001% chance is kinda exciting to think about
G2 IS #1 seed and gets all the absolute best teams exceot there very first matxh while Tl is #2 team and get all wildcard teams and will nost likly get threw the bracket this year is terrible.
Honestly that’s what NA gets for losing to a team they shouldn’t have lost to in the first place. Days before picks I absolutely called that NA would have to send NA home.
So just compare G2s way to 2-2 with TL or even BLG and I think everyone after this will see an issue. BUT this is the "beauty" of swiss stage that unexpected teams get through. However: G2 on paper is the best performing team of the 2-2 teams. Watching every game of worlds, they do the least sloppy mistakes, have good macro, can match the best teams until late games of 40+ min games, so there is definitely a world where they beat BLG. COME ON G2! MAKE IT HAPPEN! WE BELIEVE IN YOU! JUST GIVE US A GREAT FIGHT INTO QUARTERS!
@@robenriven Yeah right they are so good at beating Wild card teams and not winning a single match against any Eastern team... TL will probably win tomorrow though (if they don't INT), TL is overall better than FLY and has higher potential.
@eFrog27 10k gold in what games? The only game they've been down alot at all was vs T1 game 1 Every other game Has been competitive af and coulda went either way. I don't think you've been actually watching worlds and ur going on there games vs eu teams because G2 is playing much better then they played in Lec
whoever makes these rules should be fired. region protection should be very much viable and available. the entire purpose of Worlds and MSI is Region Rivalry. When it comes to an absolute no other choice of why a region should play itself then ok because there is no other option. But this guaranteed region progression by playing itself... its absolute troll. Whoever is responsible for these rules needs to seriously redo calculations.
Worlds is not region rivalry, that’s just what fans make it out to be. It’s to see who the best is. Lose now or lose later, it doesn’t really matter. The only thing that matters is who’s holding the trophy at the end
@@ml-jt6eg I'm sorry but if I’m going to support worlds to play like this... then I’m gone. I know many people feel this way. If I want my region to play against each other when clearly rules can prevent this from happening. I'd rather watch season splits then. That’s what they exists for. MSi is fine. Not for Worlds. unless there are absolutely no other options for elimination/advancements... Same region should NOT play upon each other to advance where clearly it's not even needed at that point. Semifinals are the absolute straw, not quarterfinals. Either way as you said regardless. The best will play against the best. Hence Region Rivalry.
Why do they keep saying that APA is good on Neeko? From what I can see he played Neeko once in 2024 prior to Worlds and it was a loss... and he hasn't looked good on it in Worlds either.. he just keeps pushing forward, getting blossom on one, and inting...
This was the fight we wanted to see. But would love to have both EU and NA aiming to be more competitive against LPL and LCK. Rather than toxic fans arguing against each other. Would've been nice.
riot had to fix it for you just so tl wouldn't draw another lpl/lck team lmao,any other variation and no na team would make top 8.only fly vs tl allows fly to pass
This draw is ridiculous, NA fans shouldn’t be proud of the team going to quarterfinals in such a dishonorable way. There is definitely human intervention going on here. Although I‘m not EU fan, but I have to say EU > NA. At least G2 beated lpl team, while NA got their victories from non lpl lck teams. I’m glad that LCS is removed in the following year though. Good riddance.
Dishonorable?? Cheating?? EU fans complaining about the NAs beating wildcard teams....WBG last year did the same thing they ONLY beat NA and EU teams and somehow beat BLG then got 3-0 by T1 in finals last year. KT had the worst draw last year with DK both times one being the decider match i think they played BLG or LNG in a Bo1 and then their last series was JDG at quarters. EU fans want G2 to be the best in the west but seems to want to complain when they get these strong Eastern Teams draws. What was the excuse last year fot G2? STOP being a 1 region team you had 2 other teams and they couldn't even beat said wildcard regions that both Fly and Tl beat but keep clingy on to G2 I suggest you tell FNC and MDK to do better.
Yeah, NA fans aren't proud that they have to send 1 of their own NA representative home. They were suppose to have 2 slots to possibly get out of swiss but this draw limited it to 1. Don't act like there are easy or hard paths in Worlds, it always happens to all teams in all of the years-they gotta be able to beat any team they face, or else that just means they weren't strong enough.
Who cares. Neither NA or EU will be holding the trophy at the end so get over it. LCS is just getting a name change and 1 LLA team (like that’s going to change anything).
Last year worlds we had 3 LCK team qualifying for worlds with KT VS DK to guarantee LCK have 3 teams at the decider 2-2 series now now we still have 3 LCK teams qualified... oh wait its rigged now because it's NA vs NA so LCS is guaranteed quarters while EU is a 1 team region. Maybe stop sending FNC and MDK that can't beat said wildcard regions and you wouldn't have these results. But it's ok maybe G2 will beat BLG
Of course, Classic. Isn't it rigged enough that LCK and LPL has 4 representatives on both of their regions while NA and EU only has 3, with 2 as secured and 1 needing to go through play-ins? Probability wise, about 80% win chance of eastern countries against 20% win chance for western. Also-what happened again to last year's DK vs. KT?
I found him funny actually. I was more surprised he has the guts to trashtalk Levi after that abysmal performance in Game 1. I guess being in a foreign team gave him more confidence because I don't recall him being this vocal in LCK.
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Hey to all G2 fans, you have a chance. G2 is still a strong team and BLG is shakey all through out. It's not gonna be an east task but just believe in G2!
g2 is also shakey tho
stop dreaming bro, this is real life
@@hellooo12 Dreaming if it is not possible. Look how shakey BLG is mostly in the early game. Saying there is chance don't mean it's a 100% chance but could go from 1%-99% depending on the situation. Seems like you're life is a mess right now and you seem to have no chance fixing it. This is a game. You have real life issues lol.
I agree G2 has a chance always but BLG is the worst possible draw but if any team up there could take them out its prob G2
@@canadat4380 Exactly! Also even if you make out to swiss, there are no weak teams left there besides Fly or TL which are not that easy too. Praying for a good match up in swiss makes no sense but securing a spot next round.
*⬇️TIMESTAMPS⬇️*
*Worlds 2024 - Swiss Stage - Round 4 Day 3*
*FNC vs WBG*
1:20:39 *- Game 1 Draft*
1:26:54 *- Game 1 Start*
2:14:48 *- Game 2 Draft*
2:21:32 *- Game 2 Start*
3:02:55 *- Game 3 Draft*
3:09:29 *- Game 3 Start*
*TL vs GAM*
3:53:52 *- Game 1 Draft*
4:01:01 *- Game 1 Start*
4:48:46 *- Game 2 Draft*
4:55:53 *- Game 2 Start*
5:32:13 *- Game 3 Draft*
5:39:04 *- Game 3 Start*
6:20:21 *- Draw Show: Swiss Stage Round 5*
Thank you!
*Spoiler Protection* 🛡️
*Spoiler Protection Boost* 🛡️🔝
Idk why people are saying g2 has a hard road. They’d have to play the top teams anyways. So what’s it matter it happens earlier in the tournament ?
They want G2 to be the best in the west but don't want to play the hard eastern teams
There's absolutely a ramp up in skill and comfort as the tournament goes on. Easier teams earlier on allow you to figure out the meta and practice strategies to fight against it.
And you don't have to play the best teams anyways. Look at TL's road
@@killeryodellingmonkey4192 if TL wants to win worlds ya they do. They’d have to win the Swiss and the the top 8 bracket stage.
Well its if you lose later in worlds you get alot more prize money. So you can get/ keep expensive players
@@tryyonsmith4578you have to think about it in terms of probabilities, because that’s how it works in practice. A good draw will absolutely improve your chances at winning.
Don’t be bitter …. Faker once said : If you want to be the best you have to beat the best
bro if DK gets 3-0'd by LPL after going 2-0. That would be hilarious
And no one will remember that next Worlds.
All the LPL teams getting eliminated by T1 last year was more hilarious especially with the angry LPL fans, and people will remember that for years to come.
I think it's unlikely.
Weibo seems like the weakest team out of the LPL & LCK teams.
@@DanteLovesPizza uhh nope, the game is dead af lmao the only hilarious ones are angry LCK fans because once the game is completely dead no one even knows what LCK is
and China and tencent are the ones benefits from all ur money and views because the game is owned by them, ez money
@@FynnRosenzweig
The game can die and people will still remember LPL getting stomped by LCK. It's not just a game thing, it's a national pride thing, and China takes that pretty seriously if you're not familiar with the CCP. What you say is ironic, because LPL fans will be the ones who remember the shame.
@@DanteLovesPizza not really. Its esports no one cares. And the game is owned by China. So no matter who win the game. China gets the money and pride
Someone can tell me the name of the songs at 6:33:28 please?
please someone find it
plsssss i want the song too
It sounds like German , but I couldn’t get a full sentence out of it . Just a couple of words and it didn’t help with the search :-(
Does someone know the song at 2:05:32? It isn't in the spotify playlist...
That Baron force in TL Gam game 1 was bronze level shot calling
6:12:05 UmTi trashtalk on Levi
Fanatic, you had some fun picks. Thank you.
Fnatic picked red side and last picked swain into ahri, Ezreal, and Rakan. Not to mention Gnar and Skarner, absolute best case scenario is you kill one of them as they peel Swain away. Which didn’t even happen because the team was mobile enough to stay away. Fnatic need to get rid of the coaches and humanoid asap
Has anyone found the song playlist for this season.? There are a few songs that I can' identify with Shazam, or Lyric search.
this is a real hero， you my friend and true hero👍
FLY-TL and G2-BLG is crazy. One NA team will qualify by having beaten two minor teams and the other NA team, while G2 has faced HLE, T1 and BLG. If they somehow get out of this it's a miracle
This tri-cast is so good
How do you find the songs used in the countdown and outro? Some absolute bangers for the gym in there
Which songs, can you give timestamps? You could try to use Shazam on your phone.
@@Geluonis920 trying to find the one at 6h35min and shazam cant figure it out T_T
@@Geluonis920please find that song its such a banger at 6:33:45
Its hilarious how many people are crying and thinks somehow the draws are rigged. G2 got unlucky with their draws, that's it. It happens. There are many teams in the past have had draws where they only had to beat weak/minor region teams to get past groups, yet somehow its a conspiracy because it happened here? Btw, all MAD had to do was beat GAM and they could literally be in the exact same situation as TL and if they had beaten TL they would also qualify by beating only weaker teams. So the only difference here is that MAD couldn't do what TL could. Besides, if you aren't incredibly biased, TL and FLY have easily been better than FNC/MAD. G2 also haven't shown anything to suggest they are better than FLY this tournament. FLY did take a map off HLE and G2's game against HLE wasn't close as a lot of people love to pretend. The game was long over but the baron steal just delayed it and Yone was splitting all game because they couldn't win a single 5v5 after 25 mins and after HLE got baron, the game ended immediately after. TL despite losing in their first two games, played the early game better than G2/FNC every did against any of the top teams, so stop pretending like the EU teams have done anything. The best performing team from the west right now is literally FLY and once any of these teams end up playing after the group stages they are all screwed anyways, so lets stop pretending that it matters anways.
Cuz its not G2 vs FNC
@@Darkstormsun9865 thats cause wbg knocked them out of they tourney, nothing else.
Anyone know the song at 4:39:00
Viper league of legends unreleased song just type viper and you will find it
Wow. Statistically it's expected that one team gets through Swiss only beating Western or minor region teams, but the chance of NA being guaranteed to do it without beating an LEC team either is miniscule. Meanwhile, G2 get the reverse, facing 4 LPL or LCK teams for the 2nd year running.
For 2 years now G2 have been the only Western team to win a series vs an LPL or LCK team, and unless they beat the LPL champions they'll be knocked out a 2nd time. At least NRG had to beat LEC teams last year to qualify last year (and they beat all of them).
That's the luck of the Swiss draw, but it's such a shame to see no NA vs EU games this year (at least unless we get a G2 vs TL/FLY semi...). Both NA and EU have had good moments at worlds - FLY taking a game off HLE, FNC off Weibo, G2 beating Weibo and taking HLE to the longest game - it'd be great to see how the two regions face up against each other.
at 1:36:00 why did he back right next to the brush with no wards
song at 36:00 pls
When EU can stop being a 1 region team they wouldn't be having these results. EU get mad at MDK and FNC they couldn't beat the wildcard teams that FLY and TL beat now you want to get mad at NA blame yourselves! You had 2 other teams that can't even beat the wildcard regions. Sounds like a skill issue.
Can we get that bald guy to come yell again? We're gonna need it at the knockout stage
He's the CEO of GAM. TK Nguyen.
anyone know the song at 4:38:15?
4:39:10 song name?
Fanatic: we got our shite wrecked as red side.
Also Fanatic: *chooses to play red side*
Fun fact: If the Worlds format was played with 8 professional teams and 8 teams comprised of literal monkeys from a zoo, on average one of the teams with monkeys would escape Swiss and make top 8.
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Yep, that's why I didn't predict all four LCK and LPL teams to go through to quarterfinals. Learnt from last year.
G2 Beats Wiebo and DK so not a accurate comment but close.
Spoiler:EU cooked
The worst Draw ever. Please bring the girl back
Tomorrow either DK will lose to LPL and go out or WBG will remain winless against LCK and bring Theshy back for next year also FLY or TL will eventually make it to quarterfinals instead of G2 that got cursed by T1 and go home by BLG😂
Bilibili Gaming will definitely win over G2
G2 fan lol I'll root for them 2 now that they are out
agree. Why does it have to be dk vs wbg , tl vs fly , blg vs g2. I wanted dk, wbg and blg to not fight each other and win. oh well quarterfinal is gonna be more insane. if anyone fight against the NA teams, instant win
Again 2023.
I'd like WBG to win, because of Light, he could have chased 2 pentas, but as you can see, he was only focused on winning the match, same way he was Vs JDG at LPL Regionals.
As a G2 fan I kinda want to unalive myself after this week 😢
A bit extreme lmao
talon e off the cliff lil bro
Wah wah
I love it bro I hate g2
on the one hand I'm super disappointed to see NA v NA. OTOH I'm stoked neither of our teams is playing BLG.
Fnc coaching staff needs to change
FLY-TL and G2-BLG is crazy. One NA team will qualify by having beaten two minor teams and the other NA team, while G2 has faced HLE, T1 and BLG. If they somehow get out of this it's a miracle
Yes really unlucky.Btw many people called this out.
I think it is fixed because Riot is NA based they want at least 1 NA team in the knockout stage.
AND won against wbg
I called FLY vs TL for the 2-2 spot. Too much cinema going on this swiss stage
@@RootGroves-hl8ktyeah I agree with this guy and also the moon landing was fake and the world is flat
LCK semis year?
That second game was a Gam Bang 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Finally world class castors. 🦋 LCK fighting!
I knew g2 was gonna get blg Tl vs Fly is dumb lol
The whole format is dumb. BO1 is terrible. Swiss no rematches needs thrown out. Can’t wait for fearless draft as long as it’s done like NACL and not how the LPL tried it
Picking red side is basically picking yourself into a disadvantage. Not sure if it's disrespect, over confidence, idiocy, or a mixture and/or combination.
Up until that game, there have been 17 red side wins out of 41 games in the main stage. It doesn't seem so bad when it's almost half, that is, until you realise most of the red side winners are vastly superior over their opponents, DK vs FNC, LNG vs TL, TL vs PNG, etc.
There's an obvious blue side advantage on many levels, and it's been the same situation for many years now. You don't need statistics to make this side selection decision. Ayumu could do better, and he's a chimpanzee.
How would you balance that?
Giving red side extra bans? Giving red side two last picks? Giving red side a hit of Vyvanse?
Not flaming but it seems any advantage you give to red side can be very easily abused by a good team
@@killeryodellingmonkey4192
To be honest, if you want to balance it as much as possible, you need to identify what the blue side advantages are and eliminate them as much as possible.
For example, one of the most obvious advantages is pick and bans. Blue side can target ban because they have first pick, red side ALWAYS has to ban "the OP meta" champions other they give it over. There was a brief period where red side was the more favourable side as they can counter pick last, but this issue remained, so it's obvious this needs to be addressed.
We've seen so many matches where team strength is close, but the first team to play on blue side wins because every single win was on blue side.
One way to offset this is to make the last game a blind pick when the scores are tied. OGN used to run this format, in a best of 5, if the match went to game 5, it was a blind pick game. Please tell me, how will this get abused? Right, it can't be.
They can even extend this to best of 3s and even use blind pick for best of 1s. When every match counts in the Swiss stage, the most important thing is to eliminate as many innate factors that cause the game to be unbalanced as possible. Unlike the old group format, teams don't play on one side each against the same team as a way to give both teams the same advantage, so with the Swiss format, this becomes more important.
Rito hates the idea because they don't like fair and fun, so, what can you do? The solution exists, Rito just won't implement it.
@@DanteLovesPizza well duh.
I'd say the largest advantage blue side has is first pick. It forces red side to ban the strongest champs or risk playing against them. This is arguably counteracted by red side's last pick, where they can counter pick a particular champ or pull out an unexpected pick.
So outside of that. What's the difference?
@@DanteLovesPizza Well i would say that the biggest addvatage of blue side is that its the strongest team that picks witch side, and thats why its so lobsided.
Blue side is a small addvatage but not as large as the statistics would sugest.
@@Benji877
That's a part of the problem now.
In previous tournaments with the group stage format and double round robin, teams played on both sides once.
Side selection also gets decided by a coin toss in a best of 5 (not sure if it's still the case,) and there have been quite a number of best of three and best of five matches throughout the domestics and internationals that have seen blue side victories only.
It's not just a "stronger team gets to pick" issue, it's a legitimate issue, and it's been like this for years, but Rito just refuses to do anything about it. A small advantage between two teams that are close in strength makes all the difference between a win and a lose.
No NA vs EU ? the whole play ins and swiss ? and possibly the entire worlds ?
very sus guys
riot is na-based,so they want at least 1 local team at worlds.that's why g2 had to play against all the strong teams (lck and lpl first seeds,world champions and world finalists) while tl only got minor regions after getting stomped
@@aaabbb-zc7sxthat’s not how that works. If they wanted to do that they could’ve done that for so many of the worlds.
@@aaabbb-zc7sx you're capping so hard dude. stop 😂
@aaabbb-zc7sx lmfao do you also believe in flat earth? Why would riot intentionally avoid the most hyped up matches possible for worlds? NA vs EU brings more attention than any of the other matchups. The only other matchup that would be close is #1 LCK vs #1 LPL.
@@aaabbb-zc7sx Glad to see other people are commenting the extremely obvious and logical counterpoint to your tinfoil hat garbage.
G2 vs lck and lpl #1 and 1st and 2nd place from last years worlds??? Thank god theyre fixing swiss stage next year💀💀💀
Yah G2 was vs all Top Tier Teams except for there first match.
I mean to be fair if they are going for the championship. At some point you have to win these no1. Avoiding them won’t solve the problem.
@@canadat4380and they have proved that they're not on that level
G2 is having the same treatment PNG got when they advanced to groups 😂
When you play scare you lose.
Who would've thought the BM player won
NA Teams Should only be invited for Scrims and Play-ins, its totally a downgrade to see them play in quarterfinals after watching LPL/LCK
this is unfair, why na vs na?
I wish they had enforced the region protection through the rest of Swiss. Feels pretty bad to knock out your own region...
Honestly, it feels kinda unfair to both us and the rest of the 2-2 teams. We've seen this match before both in Spring and Summer in LCS. Each team won one.. and they both look to have finally come into form now so yet again, it's a 50-50 on who wins that one.. on the other hand, all of NA is a bit inferior by compare to the East. I would love to have had a chance to see them play against G2 or DPlus Kia. On top of that, it'd give NA the opportunity (if they got lucky) to get two teams out of Swiss.. or on the opposite side, it'd give the Eastern teams a better chance to get out of Swiss themselves. All-in-all, it'd just be a win-win to avoid the same-region match.. it's really disappointing to see this so early on in Worlds.
NA getting the easiest POSSIBLE Draws.
G2 got pain and two other 4th seed regions. Fly got 1st seed Korea.
@HigherKaiju EU wins, omg hardest games ever!
NA wins, omg easiest games ever!
@@Darkstormsun9865 It's not a hard draw because you have 1, or even 2, hard matches vs top teams, and any team can lose 2 and still go through. It's a hard draw if you have to beat multiple LPL or LCK teams to get through, or one of their top teams.
G2 has to do both this year - beat the reigning LPL champ after already having beaten Weibo. No NA team has to beat any LPL or LCK team to qualify, let alone one of their top ones or multiple of them. I fact, for 2 years NA has got a team out of Swiss beating 0 LPL or LCK teams, this year not even needing to beat an LEC team - just minor regions and each other. Meanwhile G2 faced 4 LPL or LCK teams each year. It's pretty clear ones a hard draw and the others aren't!
@@HigherKaiju It's only about whether or not you advance by drawing LPL/LCK teams in an elimination Bo3 match, seeds are irrelevant. DK, 3rd seed, it's way worst than T1, 4th seed, but still DK just won over FNC & FLY. Like previous year, 5 first teams qualified were LCK/LPL.
Sayonara DK you had your chance but your messed up, so now get rekt
G2 is officially the unluckiest team.
RNG: First time?
KT LAST YEAR holds that since summer playoffs 2023
psg and kt:
If they were as good as you think they are they wouldn't be in this position in the first place
@@80AM.Nah, I reckon G2 are a similar level to a 3rd or 4th seed LPL or LCK team, so 2-2 is exactly where I'd expect them to be. Having to beat the LPL #1 seed to qualify - easily the hardest team left in 2-2 - is still harsh though, especially having already beaten the other LPL team left in the 2-2 bracket.
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So she just forgot to say G2?
congrats to tl for barely making it to 2-2 after losing to every major region they played against,and my condolences to g2 for their game against blg tomorrow.looks like fly will be the only western team at worlds(and the first to fly home)
salty much
So what should be changed about the swiss stage?😂
Get rid of BO1 format. Get rid of region protection.
FNC are a joke. A bunch of kids unable to make a decision. The amount of time they just stood waiting in the jungle is ridiculous. Let a different team go to worlds next time, you're wasting everybody's time.
If those other teams can’t even beat FNC then what’s the point of sending them? Just more waste of time
As an NA fan I can honestly say I'm glad we can get outta groups
As a League fan I can honestly say I'm sad that instead of getting an epic 5 match banger between 2 competitive teams, a slot is gonna be wasted on a 3-0 stomp.
If you say so.... G2 was supposed to be a 3-0 stomp too a couple years back but ended up making a run. 99.999% chance NA loses but even so that 0.001% chance is kinda exciting to think about
@@BMGPridelionnah
@seventh-hydra it happened 3 times at worlds last year. Get over it.
Best draw for NA lol atleast 1 will go through haha
Thanks bye G2 pls😎
finally the lifeless drawer is gone least this guy looks happy to be in the stage
EU fans crying nonstop since 2019. Insufferable babies 😂
EU fans shameless right now.
G2 IS #1 seed and gets all the absolute best teams exceot there very first matxh while Tl is #2 team and get all wildcard teams and will nost likly get threw the bracket this year is terrible.
Sjokz is just so hot 🔥
Ez arcanas VN thua yeah
Come on RIOT, FLY vs G2 it would be such an hype match up for the audience .
TL seems like such a fun team with a fun coach.
No one is happy about this draw
Honestly that’s what NA gets for losing to a team they shouldn’t have lost to in the first place. Days before picks I absolutely called that NA would have to send NA home.
Literally the worst draft for both na and eu
even that one na team is in quarters everyone will call it undeserved
So just compare G2s way to 2-2 with TL or even BLG and I think everyone after this will see an issue. BUT this is the "beauty" of swiss stage that unexpected teams get through.
However:
G2 on paper is the best performing team of the 2-2 teams. Watching every game of worlds, they do the least sloppy mistakes, have good macro, can match the best teams until late games of 40+ min games, so there is definitely a world where they beat BLG.
COME ON G2! MAKE IT HAPPEN! WE BELIEVE IN YOU! JUST GIVE US A GREAT FIGHT INTO QUARTERS!
Flyquest is better than G2 right now
Good macro is just down 10k gold in the first half of every game 😭
@@robenriveninsane cope lmao
@@robenriven Yeah right they are so good at beating Wild card teams and not winning a single match against any Eastern team... TL will probably win tomorrow though (if they don't INT), TL is overall better than FLY and has higher potential.
@eFrog27 10k gold in what games? The only game they've been down alot at all was vs T1 game 1 Every other game Has been competitive af and coulda went either way. I don't think you've been actually watching worlds and ur going on there games vs eu teams because G2 is playing much better then they played in Lec
whoever makes these rules should be fired. region protection should be very much viable and available. the entire purpose of Worlds and MSI is Region Rivalry. When it comes to an absolute no other choice of why a region should play itself then ok because there is no other option. But this guaranteed region progression by playing itself... its absolute troll. Whoever is responsible for these rules needs to seriously redo calculations.
Worlds is not region rivalry, that’s just what fans make it out to be. It’s to see who the best is. Lose now or lose later, it doesn’t really matter. The only thing that matters is who’s holding the trophy at the end
@@ml-jt6eg Well its if you lose later in worlds you get alot more prize money. So you can get/ keep expensive players
@@ml-jt6eg I'm sorry but if I’m going to support worlds to play like this... then I’m gone. I know many people feel this way. If I want my region to play against each other when clearly rules can prevent this from happening. I'd rather watch season splits then. That’s what they exists for. MSi is fine. Not for Worlds. unless there are absolutely no other options for elimination/advancements... Same region should NOT play upon each other to advance where clearly it's not even needed at that point. Semifinals are the absolute straw, not quarterfinals. Either way as you said regardless. The best will play against the best. Hence Region Rivalry.
Why do they keep saying that APA is good on Neeko? From what I can see he played Neeko once in 2024 prior to Worlds and it was a loss... and he hasn't looked good on it in Worlds either.. he just keeps pushing forward, getting blossom on one, and inting...
Oh my god NA vs NA??? G2 vs China #1 Seed???? Worst draw ever
Every year, same thing. EU 1 team region crying about how unlucky they are. If you're as good as China and Korea, beat them. It's that simple.
@@notechb0ss2.05 i hope your're not from NA zero team region full of washed imports.
Spawn coping lol
G2 PLEASE make it out of Swiss so we can have ONE SINGLE NA/EU MATCH THIS TOURNAMENT 😭😭
For a NA Vs EU match, you'd need both G2 and whichever from NA goes forward to win their quarter finals too, which is less likely than G2 qualifying
Nah that TL INTERVIEW 2-1 WAS CRINGE ASF 😭😭😭
Not a single EU vs NA draw the whole tournament. This format is garbage
G2 had two chances and blew it
This was the fight we wanted to see. But would love to have both EU and NA aiming to be more competitive against LPL and LCK. Rather than toxic fans arguing against each other. Would've been nice.
BYE BYE EU DOGS HAHAHA MDK OUT FNC OUT G2 OUT TOMORROW 😂😂😂😂
riot had to fix it for you just so tl wouldn't draw another lpl/lck team lmao,any other variation and no na team would make top 8.only fly vs tl allows fly to pass
@@aaabbb-zc7sx COPEEEE skill gap. You went from a 1 team region to a 0 team region 😂😂
Riot is a Chinese company so if anything they would have fixed it for LPL to play nothing but NA
scripted draws
This draw is ridiculous, NA fans shouldn’t be proud of the team going to quarterfinals in such a dishonorable way. There is definitely human intervention going on here. Although I‘m not EU fan, but I have to say EU > NA. At least G2 beated lpl team, while NA got their victories from non lpl lck teams. I’m glad that LCS is removed in the following year though. Good riddance.
Dishonorable?? Cheating?? EU fans complaining about the NAs beating wildcard teams....WBG last year did the same thing they ONLY beat NA and EU teams and somehow beat BLG then got 3-0 by T1 in finals last year. KT had the worst draw last year with DK both times one being the decider match i think they played BLG or LNG in a Bo1 and then their last series was JDG at quarters. EU fans want G2 to be the best in the west but seems to want to complain when they get these strong Eastern Teams draws. What was the excuse last year fot G2? STOP being a 1 region team you had 2 other teams and they couldn't even beat said wildcard regions that both Fly and Tl beat but keep clingy on to G2 I suggest you tell FNC and MDK to do better.
EU WOULD BE PROUD AHAHAHAHA
Yeah, NA fans aren't proud that they have to send 1 of their own NA representative home. They were suppose to have 2 slots to possibly get out of swiss but this draw limited it to 1.
Don't act like there are easy or hard paths in Worlds, it always happens to all teams in all of the years-they gotta be able to beat any team they face, or else that just means they weren't strong enough.
Who cares. Neither NA or EU will be holding the trophy at the end so get over it. LCS is just getting a name change and 1 LLA team (like that’s going to change anything).
Wtf?
The fact lcs guaranteed unto quarters instead of lck is kinda rigged no?
Last year worlds we had 3 LCK team qualifying for worlds with KT VS DK to guarantee LCK have 3 teams at the decider 2-2 series now now we still have 3 LCK teams qualified... oh wait its rigged now because it's NA vs NA so LCS is guaranteed quarters while EU is a 1 team region. Maybe stop sending FNC and MDK that can't beat said wildcard regions and you wouldn't have these results. But it's ok maybe G2 will beat BLG
Of course, Classic. Isn't it rigged enough that LCK and LPL has 4 representatives on both of their regions while NA and EU only has 3, with 2 as secured and 1 needing to go through play-ins? Probability wise, about 80% win chance of eastern countries against 20% win chance for western.
Also-what happened again to last year's DK vs. KT?
God, umti is so cringe and insufferable
I found him funny actually. I was more surprised he has the guts to trashtalk Levi after that abysmal performance in Game 1. I guess being in a foreign team gave him more confidence because I don't recall him being this vocal in LCK.
@@CristineTotHe is still the winner lol
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