I once was in Siurana (Spain) when there was a rock fall. I was at another crag but I heard the story. The rock fall was in 'El pati' (the playground). That is the most famous sport climbing crag around with all the hardest routes like 'La Rambla'. People were climbing when goats walked on top op the crag and started this rock fall. It was a huge block that came down, right above these climbers. When it came down it hit a ledge en flipped over, over the climbers. They were so lucky to get out of that unharmed!
I remember going to yosemite a few months after they expanded the cabins at curry village in 2008 and a rock slide took out the whole new area lmao We snuck by to look at the destruction and it was INSANE. Pictures dont do rocks like that justic
Being an Irish climber myself I can assure you we have some epic multi pitch stuff it’s not El Capitan (but what is)! Great video by the way definitely a fan of this new direction looking forward to more.
I shared a camp 4 site with the involved couple and 2 others guys the weekend before the event. I believe the 2 other guys were on the E. Buttress while Andrew and Lucy were bailing, or else they were bailed just a bit earlier. I'm sure it was really traumatizing for the survivors, they were all really nice people and wish them the best.
That's freakin' gnarly man... changed my head a bit hearing your story. I've been in all kinds of dangerous situations; many times... but that my brother was very, very, gnarly. I know you didn't have any choice but to go on... but still, I'm going to say you have got some big old balls. this is coming from someone who at 14 years old, was employed commercial fishing- salmon and Dungeness crab, and halibut on the west coast just north of "San Fran". they say commercial fishing is dangerous (greater than 100% injury rate) and no doubt- the sea takes many lives; but that stuff you guys do... freaks me out. much respect. peace and rock on...
Was there that day with my wife just hanging out. We vacation in bass lake every year and spend one day in Yosemite, the sound of the rock fall was so loud it was pretty wild
I was leaving Yosemite that day in 2017 we were about to leave from the tunnel but we ended up hearing the rocks fall. The dust came up after a few minutes
When in college I recall someone telling that there was this experiment, they were trying to see the effect of long time caving. One of the subjects heard a rockfall inside the cave. That must be the most frightening thing!
The algorithm knows me too well, I just saw the original piton pete video last week, and now an interview with his climbing partner! 👍 also I assumed the title was gonna be an onsite video of where Bobby injured that mountain during his recent fall 😄👍
Crazy, my wife and i were there that day just hanging out, we go to Bass Lake every year for vacation and we usually go to Yosemite for one of the days. I remember we were at the Tunnel view and the noise was so load like thunder, it was pretty wild.
Really enjoyed the story thanks! I was in the path of an earth landslide as a teenager, very fortunate it was comparitively slow and we were close to the edge enough for us to get clear in time. It really resets your concept of how trustworthy the ground you are walking on is! The idea of solid rock moving is pure terror to me. I guess this has erased historical routes and new ones will need to be established in time?
@@hankzikakis4624 water fall route is half that size and much harder than the nose, not comparable at all. I think the speed record is around 6.5 hours for WF
Every year someone dies from cliff collapse at my hometown at the beach. And it’s only like 50 - 100ft of sand stone. People like to sun bathe right at the foot of the cliff. If the rocks don’t kill you, getting buried alive will. RIP
Bolts would only really cause erosion if they shifted or moved, which in that case, it wouldn't really be a good anchor. But in terms of cracking the rock due to expansion of the steel or stainless steel bolts, unless you have a lot of bolts (like bolts every inch or two) all lined up across a sketchy part of the rock, you might be able to break off a hunk. The epoxy is probably stretchy enough not to crack rocks with temperature changes if they're glue-ins. The hammer in bolts could cause a crack from thermal expansion, but the stainless steels thermal expansion coefficient is between 14 and 17 (10-6 m/mC) depending on the alloy, granites being 7.9-8.4. A comparable case for context is concrete (~8) and water/ice (51) in Canada. Concrete slabs over winter will crack from ice seeping in and freezing, forcing the concrete apart. The difference is that the bolts wouldn't apply nearly as much force on the granite that ice applies to concrete. Steel's thermal expansion coefficient is closer to granite at 10.8-12.5, which applies even less pressure. You would have to be trying to break the rock to have it crack due to the thermal expansion of the bolts.
are they not monitoring the rock faces? so if the rock picks up "speed" over the course of a week/month/year They are doing this in the swiss alps. automatic laser measuring
@@mattgraham4340 why not. the rock does not go from 0 to ground in a single day. like he said that he could see the giant gaps. those would have develop over years. and if you monitor this development you could see if a section is getting worse, than send out someone that checks the rock
@@muchmore344 because my understanding is the motion before the collapse is mostly outwards and trivial distances before the collapse. Those giant gaps he was talking about, had probably been there for decades. Albeit, getting incrementally worse. The avalanches that you are talking about are some sort of aggregate of different materials that I suspect have a much larger plastic zone on their yield curve before failure. ruclips.net/video/nTAA-QOuhV0/видео.html
Great video! On a side note, it's a bit shocking to me how narrow-minded and narcissistic religious people can get sometimes: "if I was one day late I would have been killed, praise the Lord" - well, other people did get killed, not much Lord-praising there, I assume
Porta ledge camping in a 60' cypress tree doesn't seem so sketch after I heard about tossing a pebble behind the giant lose flake they were camping on. I don't think I could have slept there, I would of been shi+++ bricks in bags up there!
@@Xtreme_Airgun_Slugs Yeah you could have before the rock fall but after it's a no go. Big wallers are chill with camping up there on things like that, They probably all had a good laugh about the pebble toss.
Tragic. Seemed a bit light hearted for an event that took lives? I am sure the trauma was significant for those who witnessed. Amazing bravery for those who went in to rescue. Amazing the scale.
Probably a super un-cool thing to ask and it’ll quickly expose me as a non-climber but , what’s the likelihood that decades of climbing on it and hammering various pieces of metal into it over and over , added to the fragility of the rock ? Please know , I’m in no way looking to pass blame ! And of course over the years (growing up camping , hiking and micro-summiting all over , from Big Sur to British Columbia/Alaska , I’ve seen giant old rock slides and probably stood on granite slabs that had once been attached above me - eons of freeze and thaw cycles , etc. . I just remember seeing climbing footage where it looks like an apparatus was being forced in a crag/crack in the exact place I’d pry at if I wanted to cause full-on separation . I know , long winded and silly Q but I can’t see you roll your eyes from where I am . Thanks ! P.S. Anyone ever seen that short film , “Solo” that the Sierra Club produced in the late 60s (?) . The one where the dude finds the cute little frog on a granite face and puts it in his pocket . Let’s it go on top . I found it on YT once . Nothing like the mad climbs ppl do nowadays but , yeah , for it’s time it was really something . P.P.S. I’m glad that Ryan (?) wasn’t a casualty . But it’s obvious you two young fellas have a rare attitude toward the risks you take and mortality . Way to fully live life !
In my humble opinion the bolts are almost inert and cause almost no damage. the likelihood of bolts contributing to this. What causes the rocks of mountains to collapse is water, the water seeps into a crack an then expands, it takes something like 1.5 million ( or more ) psi to contain "Ice" so ice can basically force apart any loose rock over time.
It’s more of an odds game. Regardless of if people are climbing on it rockfalls still happen. We have gravity to thank for that. Rock, especially rock the size of el cap, is fuckin heavy. Gravity really doesn’t want it up there. El cap is also popular to climb so they’ll likely be climbers present to witness a rockfall. If a tree falls in the forest and there’s nobody around, does it make a sound? You don’t hear about the rockfalls that happen in remote areas, because nobody sleeps below them!
that is not the type of mic you pass back and forth you actually need to keep it further from your mouth so we don't have to listen to your breathing p.s. you sound the same as you do in every video and definitely nothing like a reporter ;)
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I dig the interview! That was such a major event, it’s cool to hear a first hand account.
I once was in Siurana (Spain) when there was a rock fall. I was at another crag but I heard the story. The rock fall was in 'El pati' (the playground). That is the most famous sport climbing crag around with all the hardest routes like 'La Rambla'. People were climbing when goats walked on top op the crag and started this rock fall. It was a huge block that came down, right above these climbers. When it came down it hit a ledge en flipped over, over the climbers. They were so lucky to get out of that unharmed!
Epic story. Rockfall on a big wall is one of my greatest fears in the outdoors.Makes you feel like a little ant with giants stomping around.
I remember going to yosemite a few months after they expanded the cabins at curry village in 2008 and a rock slide took out the whole new area lmao We snuck by to look at the destruction and it was INSANE. Pictures dont do rocks like that justic
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I had that dude as a ski coach. That dude can send it.
Alpine SHREDows ! keep crushing bro!
love the mic lol
Looks sticky
Mic on a stick - Malp on a stick
Rodney McKay wants the patent right
Incredible story! Thank you so much for sharing and I am so sorry for those that lost their lives.
Two close friends had JUST finished climbing one of the cathedral spires and have an incredible video from it. Crazy stuff.
Ryan has nice energy. What a crazy story, glad there weren’t more injuries.
Being an Irish climber myself I can assure you we have some epic multi pitch stuff it’s not El Capitan (but what is)!
Great video by the way definitely a fan of this new direction looking forward to more.
Great story!! I love hearing first hand stories about epics on El Cap. More please?!!
AWESOME VIDEO JENKS! I have always wanted to know more about this event.
I shared a camp 4 site with the involved couple and 2 others guys the weekend before the event. I believe the 2 other guys were on the E. Buttress while Andrew and Lucy were bailing, or else they were bailed just a bit earlier. I'm sure it was really traumatizing for the survivors, they were all really nice people and wish them the best.
I've really enjoyed the videos with Ryan Sheridan. Great job guys.
Ryan Sheridan! I did not know you were with Pete!! So happy go got up safe! Thanks for sharing :-)
Really enjoyed this. Thank you to both of you.
There are multi pitch routes in Ireland, there are some huge sea cliffs on the west coast
Crazy wild. Do more like this. I’m a tree climber Iv been climbing for 28 years. I would love to check out highlining!!
That's freakin' gnarly man... changed my head a bit hearing your story. I've been in all kinds of dangerous situations; many times... but that my brother was very, very, gnarly.
I know you didn't have any choice but to go on... but still, I'm going to say you have got some big old balls.
this is coming from someone who at 14 years old, was employed commercial fishing- salmon and Dungeness crab, and halibut on the west coast just north of "San Fran".
they say commercial fishing is dangerous (greater than 100% injury rate) and no doubt- the sea takes many lives; but that stuff you guys do... freaks me out.
much respect. peace and rock on...
Love it! I think the conversation format was cool- very cool story too.
I definitely liked this video. That story was so intense! I would love to hear some highlining stories.
Wow, that’s intense! I like the interview and hearing a first hand experience.
Cool microphone by the way ^^
Was there that day with my wife just hanging out. We vacation in bass lake every year and spend one day in Yosemite, the sound of the rock fall was so loud it was pretty wild
I was leaving Yosemite that day in 2017 we were about to leave from the tunnel but we ended up hearing the rocks fall. The dust came up after a few minutes
Can we get a super good enough hat with some cams on it? Me and my trad buddies would love that!
18:18 ryan did in fact not edit it it down.
I love HowNot2 He seems like Dennis' cousin from its always sunny
“Did you hear it or see it first”
Me - “He felt that shit”🤣🤣🤣
When in college I recall someone telling that there was this experiment, they were trying to see the effect of long time caving. One of the subjects heard a rockfall inside the cave.
That must be the most frightening thing!
The algorithm knows me too well, I just saw the original piton pete video last week, and now an interview with his climbing partner! 👍 also I assumed the title was gonna be an onsite video of where Bobby injured that mountain during his recent fall 😄👍
Crazy, my wife and i were there that day just hanging out, we go to Bass Lake every year for vacation and we usually go to Yosemite for one of the days. I remember we were at the Tunnel view and the noise was so load like thunder, it was pretty wild.
Pretty awesome interview, thanks for sharing the story
Really enjoyed the story thanks! I was in the path of an earth landslide as a teenager, very fortunate it was comparitively slow and we were close to the edge enough for us to get clear in time. It really resets your concept of how trustworthy the ground you are walking on is! The idea of solid rock moving is pure terror to me. I guess this has erased historical routes and new ones will need to be established in time?
Keep the stories coming!! Love hearing bout epics. Thanks!!
Really enjoying all the content please keep it coming
Keep the stories coming, please!
I work underground in a gold mine in Nevada, it doesn't take a big rock falling on you to hurt, just takes a little rock. You all be safe!
I'm not a climber, but blows my mind being a on wall for days. What's the fastest waterfall route has ever been climbed?
Not sure about waterfall specifically, but a comparable route on El Cap (about 3000 ft) has been climbed in less than 2 hours.
@@hankzikakis4624 water fall route is half that size and much harder than the nose, not comparable at all. I think the speed record is around 6.5 hours for WF
Ryan Patrick and Paul RPP... good thing no one was named Ian!
Love it Ryan! You are like our own Valley reporter. ;) I'm still hoping for that video idea I emailed you about. :) No one has done that before.
Every year someone dies from cliff collapse at my hometown at the beach. And it’s only like 50 - 100ft of sand stone. People like to sun bathe right at the foot of the cliff. If the rocks don’t kill you, getting buried alive will. RIP
This was awesome, give us a podcast with These characters!
Crazy story! Thanks for sharing.
question, do bolts ultimately cause the rock to contract and expand and therefore cause erosion??
Bolts would only really cause erosion if they shifted or moved, which in that case, it wouldn't really be a good anchor. But in terms of cracking the rock due to expansion of the steel or stainless steel bolts, unless you have a lot of bolts (like bolts every inch or two) all lined up across a sketchy part of the rock, you might be able to break off a hunk.
The epoxy is probably stretchy enough not to crack rocks with temperature changes if they're glue-ins. The hammer in bolts could cause a crack from thermal expansion, but the stainless steels thermal expansion coefficient is between 14 and 17 (10-6 m/mC) depending on the alloy, granites being 7.9-8.4. A comparable case for context is concrete (~8) and water/ice (51) in Canada. Concrete slabs over winter will crack from ice seeping in and freezing, forcing the concrete apart. The difference is that the bolts wouldn't apply nearly as much force on the granite that ice applies to concrete. Steel's thermal expansion coefficient is closer to granite at 10.8-12.5, which applies even less pressure.
You would have to be trying to break the rock to have it crack due to the thermal expansion of the bolts.
Great content!
I like this style of video
This Ryan is also awesome!
I liked this format.
Really cool video
14:08 But what I really want to know brah is did it go across the road dude?
Thumbs up! Nice chat xxx
This is awesome!
The new set at el cap is sick
Wtf...
This is amazing.
Storytime is a great idea
Love the mic
The Patreon mic. Maybe we ought to donate just a bit more…
When the video started, I thought he was playing a recorder.
@@jaredshearer7989
“Today on How Not to Highline we’re going to break test you…the audience” Pull out an actual recorder!
@@davids1716 Jenks is a superstar. No way he reads the comments. 😏
@@jaredshearer7989
Yup!
are they not monitoring the rock faces? so if the rock picks up "speed" over the course of a week/month/year
They are doing this in the swiss alps. automatic laser measuring
I doubt such a technique is applicable. I don't think this igneous dome exfoliation is comparable to typical avalanche systems.
@@mattgraham4340 why not. the rock does not go from 0 to ground in a single day. like he said that he could see the giant gaps. those would have develop over years. and if you monitor this development you could see if a section is getting worse, than send out someone that checks the rock
@@muchmore344 we do this in norway as well. Works pretty good on the rocks we have.
@@muchmore344 because my understanding is the motion before the collapse is mostly outwards and trivial distances before the collapse. Those giant gaps he was talking about, had probably been there for decades. Albeit, getting incrementally worse. The avalanches that you are talking about are some sort of aggregate of different materials that I suspect have a much larger plastic zone on their yield curve before failure. ruclips.net/video/nTAA-QOuhV0/видео.html
There has been some thermal imaging done. Exfoliating rock is a different temperature.
can I hold your stick lol Ryan S. is a beast climbing he has no fear and is very skilled at what he does
You weren't to high?
No comment.
Lmao.
I enjoyed this story
Great video!
On a side note, it's a bit shocking to me how narrow-minded and narcissistic religious people can get sometimes: "if I was one day late I would have been killed, praise the Lord" - well, other people did get killed, not much Lord-praising there, I assume
That’s because religion is bulls*it!
Yeah, there isn't much critical thinking in the super religious community.
Exactly. Hoping that we as humans will be past superstitions slowly but surely.
@@Dodanos1Only to replace them with "woke ideology" and faith in the authority of bloodsucking government.
He just sounds happy to be alive to me, and who can blame him? I’d be excited to survive something like that.
Shit I didn't know Kia the hitchhiker got out of jail!
I really enjoyed this video. Less RUclips-y = better.
Would love to learn more about why it takes so long to climb it
3000’ vertical wall may have some influence on it
Did you make it fall dude?
More stories!!
This was sick, cool podcasty feel but really personable, would love to see more
Porta ledge camping in a 60' cypress tree doesn't seem so sketch after I heard about tossing a pebble behind the giant lose flake they were camping on. I don't think I could have slept there, I would of been shi+++ bricks in bags up there!
I would have rapped off that wall faster that butter on a hot pan!
@@Xtreme_Airgun_Slugs Yeah you could have before the rock fall but after it's a no go. Big wallers are chill with camping up there on things like that, They probably all had a good laugh about the pebble toss.
Well, that's a mic. And by mic I mean story.
Tragic. Seemed a bit light hearted for an event that took lives? I am sure the trauma was significant for those who witnessed. Amazing bravery for those who went in to rescue. Amazing the scale.
Fuckin rad mic! You change that and its gunna be such a mistake hahahaha best mic ever, love the stories too more of em!
So scary
RIP those who died 😔
So wild🙏🤙✌️
that is frickin terrifying!!!
Loosing your hammer but not your life in that scenario would indicate to get the fuck down again, you've sort of cheated death at that point xD
The mic should have been a piton.
That shit is wild.
I like this guy
I’d be sweatin!
what even fell there?
This was really interesting. I liked this.
"Miguel Microphone... on a shtick"
ye, story was coo. Want more pls
Probably a super un-cool thing to ask and it’ll quickly expose me as a non-climber but , what’s the likelihood that decades of climbing on it and hammering various pieces of metal into it over and over , added to the fragility of the rock ? Please know , I’m in no way looking to pass blame ! And of course over the years (growing up camping , hiking and micro-summiting all over , from Big Sur to British Columbia/Alaska , I’ve seen giant old rock slides and probably stood on granite slabs that had once been attached above me - eons of freeze and thaw cycles , etc. . I just remember seeing climbing footage where it looks like an apparatus was being forced in a crag/crack in the exact place I’d pry at if I wanted to cause full-on separation . I know , long winded and silly Q but I can’t see you roll your eyes from where I am . Thanks ! P.S. Anyone ever seen that short film , “Solo” that the Sierra Club produced in the late 60s (?) . The one where the dude finds the cute little frog on a granite face and puts it in his pocket . Let’s it go on top . I found it on YT once . Nothing like the mad climbs ppl do nowadays but , yeah , for it’s time it was really something . P.P.S. I’m glad that Ryan (?) wasn’t a casualty . But it’s obvious you two young fellas have a rare attitude toward the risks you take and mortality . Way to fully live life !
In my humble opinion the bolts are almost inert and cause almost no damage. the likelihood of bolts contributing to this. What causes the rocks of mountains to collapse is water, the water seeps into a crack an then expands, it takes something like 1.5 million ( or more ) psi to contain "Ice" so ice can basically force apart any loose rock over time.
It’s more of an odds game. Regardless of if people are climbing on it rockfalls still happen. We have gravity to thank for that. Rock, especially rock the size of el cap, is fuckin heavy. Gravity really doesn’t want it up there. El cap is also popular to climb so they’ll likely be climbers present to witness a rockfall. If a tree falls in the forest and there’s nobody around, does it make a sound? You don’t hear about the rockfalls that happen in remote areas, because nobody sleeps below them!
I wish I was in Yosemite
Do took a giant whipper and loosened the rock the day before.
Epic
So if I donate I'll get a stick mic of my own? Lol
Nice. I'd love to hear more authentic climbing stories. Can also be a bit longer than the "14-16 minutes of talking". ;) 👍
Let's play a game,take a shot everytime he says like 😂
He's a stoner, we'd die of alcohol poisoning 😄
@@Xtreme_Airgun_Slugs Thats LIKE really true maaan
Thanks be to lucky dice
Story time with climbing enthusiasts is a awesome idea. Podcasts suck .
Lol this guy is a riot.
why are you looking up when someone says rock? its like people when you yell fore and they dont duck lol
Is it root or route? Fight!
that is not the type of mic you pass back and forth
you actually need to keep it further from your mouth so we don't have to listen to your breathing
p.s. you sound the same as you do in every video and definitely nothing like a reporter ;)
Haha ryan!
pITON pETE?