The speech pretty much did the trick for me! Foxen is entirely capable of firing that final bullet with air cos i'm positive that he pretty much knew where you' re at. That was before you said that about the "unexpected ace". Your image of generally being sincere in your table talk helped you there. Changed his perspective and "led him" to do what you wanted. But hey, that's just me.
@@dnegspoker It's an incredible extra asset to have in live poker, successful, on-point table talk, that is. The vast majority of new-era players like me are "robots". And even if some try it, most of the times feels forced and fails. My guess is you sort of have to be a natural. To have a certain type of personality. I wonder: a) did you always have it from the get-go? b) did someone (like Scotty Nguyen for example or maybe a coach) "inspire" you to start incorporating it to your game? With your own, unique style of course. c)learned and evolved it by trial and error all on your own?
This was the most interesting hand breakdown I can remember on this channel, and it has some serious competition. Particularly the analysis of why Foxen didn't fire the river. Loved this one.
As a new school type player it's taken me a bit to appreciate your style but this is it right here. Facing that river bet would have been so insanely hard but you got him talking and he decided to check when he very much should have bet.
I gotta say, when Daniel said I didn't expect that A and Foxen hesitated....hmmm. For once, I know I would have made a near pot size bet (or an overbet). Such a polarized situation. I think I get that bluff through often enough to make it profitable. Regardless, well played Daniel.
The table talk affected Alex a bit I believe.. he doesn't usually say much and I think he could tell you knew what he was up to with his line. Master of the situation Daniel, your check each time gave him so much rope!
Great stuff, Daniel. Using counterfeited two pair as a bluff, when board pairs like this, is a perfect example of the GTO machine not being relevant until a certain - pretty high - level. A loooooot of players never ever fold top trips, regardless of kicker. Exploitive very much comes into it here imo, and you need to be damn sure, it's a spot and an opponent who has a fold in them.
I think you saying subtly “oh I didn’t think they’d be any left (referring to the ace on the river) was the key!!! Up until you said that I think he could have got you off with an all in (my opinion)
"I did not expect that card". C'mon Daniel you don't spit out air in that moment. If there is such a thing like spontaneous calculus, you are one of the pros who might have it. "Whatever he took that for." Yeah, right😜 Greetz from good ole Germany.
My initial read on your reaction to the riv was more indicative of how horrible that card was for your hand. Unsure if the gut would've felt the same if I didn't see the hole cards preceded by the whole explanation of how the turn was only okay - a standard always call never checkraise spot. Also how A and 8s pretty much kill your hand.. If Foxen hated you vs being friendly I wonder if he took the time to really think about your vocal reaction to that riv would he have pulled the trigger 🤔
@@mayweatherk7478 in late position we get to open more marginal hands - suited connectors and suited gappers, lower pocket pairs. Sure, late position will also open most aces, but as a percentage of their pre flop open range it is less weighted towards aces as UTG/UTG+1
I think the table talk was the reason he checked back. He seemed confident but soon as you said what you said, his demeanour changed and he no longer emanated the confidence that he showed on flop and turn
Daniel. What's a better study tool for beginner to intermediate to advanced skill levels? Solver work, PokerGo or Hybrid Poker , Hiring a coach or a mentor? (Obviously all of them duh) If you were to discuss your best approach? Would love to hear your thoughts on this.
Hey Daniel, just found your channel and it's so cool. I have a quick question, will you be able to do the live streams? I'm a huge fan of your streams!
Nice analysis, looks like a great tournament. It's awesome that, unlike in so many other sports, we get to watch these tournaments for free on RUclips. Huge fan. Gonna go look for this full tournament. Wonder who won in the end.
Table talk did matter in this particular case, I think. I think Foxen would have bet that river for at least half pot otherwise. I don't really agree with the conclusion, Foxen's river bet would have folded all kings and jacks in N's range. Great job Negreanu doing what he does best.
Hi Dan. I've watched you since " poker after dark" used to air. You demeanor and energy ( as a person) I admire very much. You demeanor and energy as a poker player is likewise. You're a humble and cool guy, along with being a dangerous person at the poker table. I not a professional, but I have a flow that's unpredictable at the poker player. If you're ever in the Pennsylvania area, come visit the Parx casino in Bensalem, my name is Jeff, I'm originally from Philly, but I live in warminster pa. I would very much like to meet me in person and converse on some strategies and science when it comes to poker.... Keep up the awesome work
Just think it over. Would you have played the hand differently than Daniel? Would you have not called the bet preflop , headsup with KJ? Would you have not called the bet on the flop with second pair decent kicker and backdoor strait door? Would you have not called the turn bet after you’d hit your second pair? Would you have not checked the river after your second pair had been counterfeited? Tell me, what would you have played differently?
@@thiccupcake I'm totally defending KJ on the just over min raise to the flop, but after wards the 7k bet on the flop was pretty fat with the ace threatening my jack. It's a tough call and I only call if my stack was a deep as negs was.
@@VVeZoX anyone can watch a fucking RUclips video so what do you mean by "you're watching this video and don't get this" this isnt the upper echelons of poker discourse it's literally the most popular player there is. The fact you're so pressed about a new player asking a question says a lot about how comfortable you are with yourself. Sure you're racking in thousands though mate
I think he thought you had a straight, and since he was hoping for one, your comment on the ace made him think that you had already had one or something to that effect (such that there was a good chance that no bluff would get you to lay down your hand). I'd say table talk is really important, actually. It says a lot. There's one guy who is insane at it, who I think used to work in the CIA or something. American. Really good with psychology. Actually don't like his tactics, they're so aggressive.
Not necessarily. If you know how the computer program likes to play it is beatable, plus as a human being, your conscious, creativity, and memory are strong assets against a robot.
Great give up, hard to present trips. As soon as you call flop, most players are just thinking about bluffing you off a weak ace and that's about it imo.
@@VVeZoX at :50 he starts out by saying he has ideals bit hasn't looked yet. That tells foxen his state of mind to start the hand. There was plenty other talk to. If he doesn't hit the king on turn, pot probably doesn't go to daniel
In terms of growing the game, Nick Schulman has to be the worst commentator in poker. I don’t doubt his poker knowledge, but it’s sad how far we’ve fallen from the greats like Mike Sexton, Vince van Patton, Gabe Kaplan, even Lon and Norm from the WSOP.
@@dnegspoker I believe it was the $5k MSPT Venetian event and they were three handed at the final table when they soft played each other. I think the other guy even tried to sue them for the 50-100k he lost. I'm a long time fan Daniel, but what they did WAS and IS cheating. I dealt poker 13 years. What they did was unacceptable.
@@atorystory1445 Nonsense bro. I have nothing vested in any of them and dont care either way but with a basic understanding of ICM and knowing how fucking good bicknell is at poker nothing there is blantant or cheating. Shouldnt be saying stuff like that even online, why do dealers always gossip so hard you guys are like 9 year old girls its crazy. Look up "Kristen bicknell folds" she has laid down bigger hands in bigger spots more than once (also right in those spots). Why would they be more aggressive to each other when almost on par vs a short stack. How the fuck is that evidence? She is just very very very good.
@@davecox7199 I'll tell you what Dave. Next time you are playing for $100k in a tournament and two people work together to help each other win, then tell me if you feel cheated. I never said she and him weren't really really good. But every poker vlogger out there covered it and as I did, concluded it was cheating. Collusion IS cheating.
The speech pretty much did the trick for me! Foxen is entirely capable of firing that final bullet with air cos i'm positive that he pretty much knew where you' re at. That was before you said that about the "unexpected ace". Your image of generally being sincere in your table talk helped you there. Changed his perspective and "led him" to do what you wanted. But hey, that's just me.
That was exactly why I said it, all the reasons you listed hoping he would think I have at least an Ace
@@dnegspoker It's an incredible extra asset to have in live poker, successful, on-point table talk, that is. The vast majority of new-era players like me are "robots". And even if some try it, most of the times feels forced and fails. My guess is you sort of have to be a natural. To have a certain type of personality. I wonder: a) did you always have it from the get-go? b) did someone (like Scotty Nguyen for example or maybe a coach) "inspire" you to start incorporating it to your game? With your own, unique style of course. c)learned and evolved it by trial and error all on your own?
When I heard "I didn't think there was any ace left", I immediately thought the same. Mate, you're in his head 🙂
This was the most interesting hand breakdown I can remember on this channel, and it has some serious competition. Particularly the analysis of why Foxen didn't fire the river. Loved this one.
I really enjoy hearing your strategies after watching the game. That SHRB was one of my favorites to watch. Thanks for sharing! 😀
That was such a great tourney. Staged for a legendary comeback. Keep it coming, thanks Daniel.
It really was.
Plenty more on the way!
@@dnegspoker Nick Vitucci the scammer that swindle millions of dollars from people in his real estate Seminars and Con-man of Poker
Daniel is the best! Great analysis of this hand.👏👏👏
Could not help but giggle at the number of times I heard "King Jackoff".
Yes. I am a child.
Lol me too. I used to be king jackoff but now practice retention and self control.
As a new school type player it's taken me a bit to appreciate your style but this is it right here. Facing that river bet would have been so insanely hard but you got him talking and he decided to check when he very much should have bet.
I gotta say, when Daniel said I didn't expect that A and Foxen hesitated....hmmm. For once, I know I would have made a near pot size bet (or an overbet). Such a polarized situation. I think I get that bluff through often enough to make it profitable.
Regardless, well played Daniel.
A little old school yippity yappity lol
Nice speech play Daniel! You got the check back you wanted
100% the table talk helped.. he bets if you didn't say a word
I was so surprised by that check on the river from Foxen.
I haven't been that surprised since I watched Phil Hellmuth lose a hand quietly.
The table talk affected Alex a bit I believe.. he doesn't usually say much and I think he could tell you knew what he was up to with his line.
Master of the situation Daniel, your check each time gave him so much rope!
Great stuff, Daniel.
Using counterfeited two pair as a bluff, when board pairs like this, is a perfect example of the GTO machine not being relevant until a certain - pretty high - level. A loooooot of players never ever fold top trips, regardless of kicker. Exploitive very much comes into it here imo, and you need to be damn sure, it's a spot and an opponent who has a fold in them.
well played hand yet again and makes sense how you played it....cheers Daniel))))
Daniel, your next level thoughts on poker truly make you a poker sensei/guru. Thank you on your insights for these hand situations sir.
Amazing series Daniel! Thanks a lot! Excellent warm up before the WSOP
Thank you Daniel love this breakdowns
Thanks to this series everyone on GG is just limping EVERYTHING!!!!
Thanks Daniel - this video style is great!
You have no idea how much I appreciate these videos DNeg’s. Thank you!
Only Daniel can bluff someone off the hand with a check
What bluff?
do you not understand poker wtf 😂😂
@@timdutton2056 He pretended to have a strong hand. Else his opponent might have won the hand by making a different play. That's what a bluff is
@@iwersonsch5131 That wasnt a bluff. He had a decent hand.
@@andrewli2501 one of us does.
9:10 so that’s how Doug Polk learned to turn a counterfeit two pair into a bluff? He was running solvers before it was cool?
GREAT VIDEO DANIEL ❤
I love these videos, keep 'm comin' 🙂
7:05 LMAOO Foxen is too funny 🤣
Loving these videos!
good stuff. not a player myself but I enjoy watching.
i like Foxen, he seems to be such a nice guy through through the camera lense.
You are a verbal master. There's no denying that.
I think you saying subtly “oh I didn’t think they’d be any left (referring to the ace on the river) was the key!!! Up until you said that I think he could have got you off with an all in (my opinion)
All the tricks 🙂
Reverse psychology, baby!
Please keep these break downs coming!
I do the same thing when I want a check check --perfect chat --kinda obvious saying didnt expect that --but again mind game won you that hand
"I did not expect that card".
C'mon Daniel you don't spit out air in that moment.
If there is such a thing like spontaneous calculus, you are one of the pros who might have it.
"Whatever he took that for."
Yeah, right😜
Greetz from good ole Germany.
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"I didn't think there were any aces left.... Coz I've got two of um"
My initial read on your reaction to the riv was more indicative of how horrible that card was for your hand. Unsure if the gut would've felt the same if I didn't see the hole cards preceded by the whole explanation of how the turn was only okay - a standard always call never checkraise spot. Also how A and 8s pretty much kill your hand..
If Foxen hated you vs being friendly I wonder if he took the time to really think about your vocal reaction to that riv would he have pulled the trigger 🤔
Daniel the ace on the river is not a good card for you? cause it kinda reduces the chance of him having ace king or ace jack?
good insight into a difficult position...
I generally don't think every late position opener has an ace though
I don't understand the logic. Why is later position opening less likely to carry an ace as compared to early opener?
@@mayweatherk7478 in late position we get to open more marginal hands - suited connectors and suited gappers, lower pocket pairs. Sure, late position will also open most aces, but as a percentage of their pre flop open range it is less weighted towards aces as UTG/UTG+1
@@mayweatherk7478
RFI from later positions have MUCH wider opens
@@jasperw6673 okay I understand this a bit better. So what about the implications compared to a small or big blind opening vs late position
@@mayweatherk7478
Both are actually quite wide
From my experience if you get someone to laugh and joke with you during the hand, they are much less likely to bluff you.
You have make me over 1000€ mounth.
👍
Ty!
I think the table talk was the reason he checked back. He seemed confident but soon as you said what you said, his demeanour changed and he no longer emanated the confidence that he showed on flop and turn
I think your comment when the Ace hit gave you away. He should of had that tell in his pocket. Gotta bring your A game versus you.
Let's go!
Daniel. What's a better study tool for beginner to intermediate to advanced skill levels? Solver work, PokerGo or Hybrid Poker , Hiring a coach or a mentor? (Obviously all of them duh)
If you were to discuss your best approach?
Would love to hear your thoughts on this.
Hey Daniel, just found your channel and it's so cool. I have a quick question, will you be able to do the live streams? I'm a huge fan of your streams!
what's a good online room these days? looking for free entry no deposit freeroll tournies to kickstart my comeback lol
Nice analysis, looks like a great tournament. It's awesome that, unlike in so many other sports, we get to watch these tournaments for free on RUclips. Huge fan. Gonna go look for this full tournament. Wonder who won in the end.
What hand did you have him on before the table talk?
Table talk did matter in this particular case, I think. I think Foxen would have bet that river for at least half pot otherwise. I don't really agree with the conclusion, Foxen's river bet would have folded all kings and jacks in N's range. Great job Negreanu doing what he does best.
I believe it’s pronounced Jack King Off. Other than that great call Daniel!
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Hi Dan. I've watched you since " poker after dark" used to air. You demeanor and energy ( as a person) I admire very much. You demeanor and energy as a poker player is likewise. You're a humble and cool guy, along with being a dangerous person at the poker table. I not a professional, but I have a flow that's unpredictable at the poker player. If you're ever in the Pennsylvania area, come visit the Parx casino in Bensalem, my name is Jeff, I'm originally from Philly, but I live in warminster pa. I would very much like to meet me in person and converse on some strategies and science when it comes to poker.... Keep up the awesome work
I am looking forward for the last episode of this series, because I am pretty sure Daniel´s wife is going to come in and kill him on camera. :D
HAHAHA
I'm nearly 30 and still I giggle at "king jack off"
6:25 ..... He also could easily, had another KJ !
Something to think about !
Talked him out of betting the river eh?
would you arrive at the river with KQ and KT?
triangle hands nudge nudge wink wink
I've learned a medium sized bet is precisely 50%-54% pot
Is it really a fold on A pairing river? Feel like it would be 50% call
LUCKY CHOOWHEYY
What would you do if 2 of diamond came in the turn and he still bet 21k?
I'd like to know, what if foxen reraised or went all in...
8:45
think ur table talk made him think you had an A, dissuaded him from bluffing, wp
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Everybody loves Jack King Off
How about reviewing a hand that you lost or misplayed?
I have done that in many videos, but I really didn't screw up this event, it was the best performance I've ever had
Doesn’t Ace on river reduce his value hands and doesn’t change his bluffs so if he bets big it’s bluff heavy?
He won’t bluff much on the ace river so it was a great card for us results oriented
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Just think it over.
Would you have played the hand differently than Daniel?
Would you have not called the bet preflop , headsup with KJ?
Would you have not called the bet on the flop with second pair decent kicker and backdoor strait door?
Would you have not called the turn bet after you’d hit your second pair?
Would you have not checked the river after your second pair had been counterfeited?
Tell me, what would you have played differently?
I don't think I would've called flop, but considering the stack size of neg, I probably call. With a smaller stack I fold flop.
@@mayweatherk7478 Why would you not defend king jack? Like, BB defends even worse stuff
@@thiccupcake I'm totally defending KJ on the just over min raise to the flop, but after wards the 7k bet on the flop was pretty fat with the ace threatening my jack. It's a tough call and I only call if my stack was a deep as negs was.
Unrelated to this video. But why have I saw someone with a chip lead go all in instead of putting the opponent all in and having chips left?
@@shmizzle99 ah so when they say all in its just putting the other person all in?
@@lt8400 not necessarily. You may have less than others, which would put you all in.
@@SireJoe yeah but say its 2 players in and the chip leader goes "all in"
@@VVeZoX it's a RUclips video mate I haven't subscribed to a fucking elite poker site.
@@VVeZoX anyone can watch a fucking RUclips video so what do you mean by "you're watching this video and don't get this" this isnt the upper echelons of poker discourse it's literally the most popular player there is. The fact you're so pressed about a new player asking a question says a lot about how comfortable you are with yourself. Sure you're racking in thousands though mate
Hi Daniel apparently I have won a pc from a contest? I don't think this is legit is it?
09:20. Are you not also repping Ace, 8
You didn’t get lucky, you put him in a really difficult position and he made a decision advantageous to you. That’s skill
You don’t even know what you’re talking about. LOL
@@JJJJ-lz1vv agree
@@helderboymh I agree with him agreeing
@@JJJJ-lz1vv skillfull people outplay others. And non skilled people call it luck.
@@theghost4282 thanks for the words of wisdom LOL
I love the KJ call instead or raising, that's what I call "tranquilo" poker
It definitely worked. That comment won the hand bc he bets otherwise.
8:34 Amanda is going to kill him.
I think he thought you had a straight, and since he was hoping for one, your comment on the ace made him think that you had already had one or something to that effect (such that there was a good chance that no bluff would get you to lay down your hand). I'd say table talk is really important, actually. It says a lot. There's one guy who is insane at it, who I think used to work in the CIA or something. American. Really good with psychology. Actually don't like his tactics, they're so aggressive.
The table talk was not intentional... right *wink* *wink*
My boys in high school called me King Jack Off
Funny. I call this ABC poker.
You talked him out of betting the river
Haha you said king jackoff
yay
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if you had AJ or A8 your not checking river
you should have said... "Jack King Off"
i dont think u would fold, if he would have bet river, depends how big but i still think u would have call him. but guess we never know.
Would a computer beat the best poker players?
Yes
Maybe
Heads up, it's pretty much solved, and a computer would beat anybody. However, a good player would get more from a bad player than a computer would.
Not necessarily. If you know how the computer program likes to play it is beatable, plus as a human being, your conscious, creativity, and memory are strong assets against a robot.
Great give up, hard to present trips. As soon as you call flop, most players are just thinking about bluffing you off a weak ace and that's about it imo.
Why is he calling Jack King Off, King Jack Off!?!?? 🤦🏻♂️
Highly disagree w y KJ is horrible hand
He would of bluffed if you didn’t talk you could of made more
King Jackoff strikes again
@dnegspoker Looks like you got someone impersonating you in your own comments section, that’s a bold play
You talk way too much in hands, giving away info for no reason
Seems like it worked here pal.,..
I hate Foxen so much
Seems like you talk to much. Free info
Seems like it worked...
@@VVeZoX at :50 he starts out by saying he has ideals bit hasn't looked yet. That tells foxen his state of mind to start the hand. There was plenty other talk to. If he doesn't hit the king on turn, pot probably doesn't go to daniel
@@VVeZoX then at 2:55 he says lets see if you keep doing it. It just feels like dnegs doesn't have and ace
The guy with the N95... why? You're literally the only person in the building wearing it. Makes watching him play in a hand really boring.
In terms of growing the game, Nick Schulman has to be the worst commentator in poker. I don’t doubt his poker knowledge, but it’s sad how far we’ve fallen from the greats like Mike Sexton, Vince van Patton, Gabe Kaplan, even Lon and Norm from the WSOP.
This has to be a troll. Nick Schulman is the absolute GOAT
I wonder if Foxen cheats at poker with anyone else besides his wife. He lost my respect after what he and his now wife did.
He never cheated with his wife ever. Not sure where you get this nonsense from, but its way out of line and wrong
@@dnegspoker I believe it was the $5k MSPT Venetian event and they were three handed at the final table when they soft played each other. I think the other guy even tried to sue them for the 50-100k he lost. I'm a long time fan Daniel, but what they did WAS and IS cheating. I dealt poker 13 years. What they did was unacceptable.
@@atorystory1445
Nonsense bro. I have nothing vested in any of them and dont care either way but with a basic understanding of ICM and knowing how fucking good bicknell is at poker nothing there is blantant or cheating. Shouldnt be saying stuff like that even online, why do dealers always gossip so hard you guys are like 9 year old girls its crazy.
Look up "Kristen bicknell folds" she has laid down bigger hands in bigger spots more than once (also right in those spots). Why would they be more aggressive to each other when almost on par vs a short stack. How the fuck is that evidence? She is just very very very good.
@@davecox7199 I'll tell you what Dave. Next time you are playing for $100k in a tournament and two people work together to help each other win, then tell me if you feel cheated. I never said she and him weren't really really good. But every poker vlogger out there covered it and as I did, concluded it was cheating. Collusion IS cheating.