I think it sends a very worrying message to your audience if you, as an author or publishing house, use generative AI for your cover: if there's AI on the outside there's probably AI on the inside as well. Same with album covers. Any artform that uses AI 'art' in its promotion immediately cheapens itself, insults its audience, and says it couldn't give a s**t about other artists.
@@wenwilloughby8197 The worst thing is that book industry in general has moved away from genuine painted covers with photomontage covers like two decades ago. So, the replacement of artists has already occurred. Though stuff like D&D, Warhammer, etc. was an exception and D&D started doing AI.
@@fuzonzord9301 We had that, yes. But still, the difference was very clear, very easy to spot, even for non artists. And usually fully painted covers could be priced higher, and importantly, it was often well accepted the price difference compared to a cover made just by stock photos and some photoshopping. Plus, some of them included some heavy paint-over. I have made solely full (no photo involved) painted covers, and I have always perceived the higher value that writers tend to assign to painted artwork. But AI is using existing artists' styles, and producing images in a ridiculous portion of time. I hadn't any problems or conflict with photo montages, for this whole reason. Plus, as Holy says, there is still a lot of manual work in the photobashing work. Way, way more than in a text prompt.
A lot of people seem confused about Cara. It was not built as a replacement for Instagram. It came about after Artstation embraced AI and Jingna threw around an idea of creating a place for artists that resisted ai, a place where AD's or anyone wanting to hire artists could go to find artists that don't use ai as well as just a place for artists to gather and learn. There are a lot of traditional artists on there! I joined Cara about a week and a half after it was launched in January 2023 and I'm fully traditional (watercolor and gouache). I follow a ton of other traditional artists including many fine artists and wildlife artists. Many of the artists that first joined the site were fleeing Artstation - so, they were industry professionals that often work digitally. Cara has a lot going for it (I mean, other than being owned by someone that isn't a huge corporation and actively fights for artist rights). There is a social feed integrated for community with a 5000 character limit and every post is chronological. No algorithm to fight. No "we'll show your post to 10% of your following and if they like it THEN we'll show it to more of your following" bs. AI images have ruined so much for me, that Cara is a refuge of art where AI isn't allowed. When I scroll through there I know it's real art made by people. I can *enjoy* art again without questioning everything I see. It's so much more than just "but I have to build an audience!". Not everything is about numbers. However, if you want to build a varied audience then BlueSky Social is where to go. A true social platform with no algorithm and a huge array of moderation tools. It lacks a gallery feature however (which is something Cara provides), so it's more like Twitter in setup. I use Cara as my gallery-social and Blue Sky as my general-audience-social. Getting away from all things Meta several years ago was the best thing I've ever done for my health and my art.
I only used FB a short while to try and promote my art, but I knew of FB/Meta’s TOS going back near 2 decades. They’ve always claimed (via their TOS) all forms of data a User provides as their own. They didn’t make it clear, which is why they have had some landmark cases where they settled several class-action lawsuits globally. It’s pretty much the same with all social media platforms, and even service providers like Google. They embed their intent in lengthy TOS’s that they know most will never read. The use of “Legalese” is also an effective barrier to prevent their intent from being known too quickly as most people aren’t familiar with Legal language. It’s shifty at best, sinister at worst! I tried hotlinking art off my DeviantArt page to FB, but their algorithms are wonky. Not sure how it even works with promotion of content. Same for IG, even X/Twitter.
Can confirm that Cara is not just for digital art. One of my most popular portfolio images I posted months before the big blowout with meta, was a drawing of Calcifer in oil pastel. I still get notifications about it sometimes XD
In a sense everything we post is digital art no matter what the original media is …and I’m a painter ..of paint not pixels ..I don’t see a problem with digital art as that’s what it is and I even like the idea of starting in a physical way ..even finishing those works but have my own work as a digital starting point .although I don’t need to really go there …only so many seconds in a day .glad it’s good for you .
my most popular which i posted looong ago before the big blowup too, is simple drawing of Dream of the endless(The sandman). i get notifications everyday : ) I'm surprised and honored everytime
A good tip I learned to fight AI from completely stealing your style is to take images of your art in a WIP view. They don’t actually have to be WIP, but take them the same way. Ex: You have a canvas you painted sitting on a table, or you take a picture of your IPad with your art on it. When AI sees this, not only will it train itself on your art, but also the environment you’re in, which will make AI think that is part of your art too.
Ok, but what stops someone to cut the painting out of the photo, scale/transform perspective back to normal in Ps, and then feed it to AI? It takes just 2 minutes.
@@QuadroVFThe scale in which Meta is doing the training is probably huge. It would be inconvenient for them to go into such detail. Imagine someone at Meta manually cropping millions of images to prepare them for AI training.
@@QuadroVF true…IDK, maybe take lower resolution photos too so that even if that happens, the resolution will look shit when they crop it. They’d have to zoom in, which would already lower the resolution to begin with. Photoshop can do wonders, but I’ve found you can’t make an already low resolution photo look 4K. Photoshop has to make up information that isn’t there and it just makes it look worse usually. Not saying it has to be 380p or anything, but maybe like 720p?
@@marek_tarnawski It would be inconvenient but they have both the means and the people to prepare data they collected (without paying the users) beforehand to feed their own AI. Though, it would cost millions of dollars already, so not an easy decision to make for them either, but they have to prepare data anyway, to clean from data that would make the results "unsatisfying". Adding a few steps is a choice that could greatly help them having better results in the long term.
I agree. It'll have to come to that. People have been spoiled by being constantly entertained and seeing art everywhere--- and a soul-less dark age needs to reign for awhile. If you're a real artist: don't stop or change; despite the fact that this is a depressing transitional time.
I think that living in a world where everything is replaced by robots and technology has advanced so that people live with no responsibilities or problems makes life meaningless
I'm not joining Cara, I'm not deleting my Instagram account, but I'm not going to post on there anymore. I don't know what's going to happen going forward. But one thing for certain, I'm not going to stop drawing.
Cara is made by artists for artists and they have a no AI policy. It's a good app but it's super new so it's a little rough around the edges. It might be good to check out, but again, it's just really new.
It is getting better and better and faster and faster. They just don't have the underlying infrastacture to handle so many ppl, but they are working on it :)
Excellent advice...I agree artists should not take any drastic action (like permanently deleting their artwork from the internet) until the dust settles.
As a professional tradigital artist and animator, I heartily agree. Even though I’ve just joined Cara, I’m not leaving Instagram. Especially since it puts myself out there. If I left Instagram out of fear of being obsolete, it will just end up making that fear come true, similar to what a certain turtle from a certain king fu movie said, “One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it.”
I'm confused about Glaze being integrated with Cara. From what I saw, there is a Glaze utility within Cara, but you still have to choose to process it yourself. There are different options for the Glaze output, so if it were automatic when uploading to Cara, that is not apparent. I have Glaze installed on my own computer, but not everyone has a computer that is powerful enough to run it. In those cases, I think the Glaze web app is a good idea.
I see everyone saying that Cara is 'auto glazing' images, and I don't think that's enabled right now.. (my last upload was 10 days ago) Prior to Cara coming into the spotlight, they had a webglaze interface, that would allow the users to have daily tokens for glazing images, but they went through an abuse/attack and had to disable it, so as of now, it's DISABLED as far as I know... you gotta manually glaze your stuff on your PC...
@@BunnyLang Well, no. Glaze might be worth something in the short term, but 'AI' is a rapidly moving target. so it's most likely just a question of time before some future AI can cope with the techniques Glaze would apply to your images right now. Posting only to sites which resist web-scraping (like Cara, from what I have heard) is a somewhat better defense. Though really only because any change made to the website to better resist web-scraping automatically and retroactively applies to all files on the site, while updates in Glaze won't have any automatic or retroactive effect on the AI-resistance of the files you previously glazed.
@@BunnyLang Yes. As far as I'm aware, Glaze protects from style stealing. You can also use Nightshade along with Glaze or alone - it is called AI poison/scrambles everything for AI (but it is somewhat visible on images, depending on your chosen strenght).
@@vishtem33 The authors of Glaze and NightShade (using the tools in your PC, then uploading, it is not difficult) have said that while that is true, they will also keep updating the tools (or creating new ones) to counter that. Even if it just makes things a bit harder for the scrappers and AI companies, it's worth it. And I kind of almost predict that more tools like these, improved and better, from other developers are going to show up, constantly. But I like your point about how much better is having the images in a site that prevents (or try to) web scrapping, both technically and legally, and that auto updates their glaze version, that is cool... But.. wouldn't that need the uploaded images to be glazed constantly? (I don't know how that whole thing happens on server). Wouldn't that end up deteriorating the images?. I mean, if you use locally Glaze and NightShade (if you also want to make a sort of an attack, lol), and do so any time these tools update (meaning, you downloading the updated apps to your PC/Mac/Etc) , you would do it over your originals, not an already Glazed image, so if there's degradation it would not add up. Yep, it would need for one to be often re-uploading (with major apps upgrades). Or am I missing something? I am more about the social measures. Like sites (like Cara) that have people curating the artwork constantly to not allow AI art (which can be spotted easily by artists), even done so by the community, that has no AI art category, and which will ban anything detected as such. And in which clients will be more sure to find only human made art. At least the clients willing to find only such, which I suspect are going to be in an increasing number, and human made art becoming more and more valuable. About the technical measures, I have heard that about cropping or etc... but that misses the point. As we are aiming to the big mass operations.
I am planning on joining Cara definitely. I don't want meta AI stealing my images. I'm new at this so i haven't even been active on ig thank God! Cara has no art buyers but that'll be a place where i send them to check out my art if they ask.
I am both a Master artist and a software engineer, I want all artists to know, that AI will not replace you, even animation requires human intervention, With that said, artist need to change their strategies to survive doing this work.
Tell that to the big media companies who are replacing artists with AI art prompters. Some companies wont hire you unless you know how to code and I'm like those are two separate things, being an artist and being a coder but apparently they are gonna be merged.
As difficult as it is to say this, but the professional world of artists is going to shrink drastically. Even if companies start paying artists for training data or even stop training on public data, the cat is out of the bag. Producers, CEOs, and middle managers absolutely love this technology because it can do the work on dozens of artists for substantially less money. They will continue to us it and already have started using it. To give a stark example, the game Stellaris has added NPCs (non player characters ) voiced by AI, as well as generated assets for the game using AI.
You're stating a hard truth that has come too fast for people to accept. Perhaps the only consolation is that many, many professions totally unrelated to art are about to also be made redundant.
Politicians will get interested when this time their fantasies "there will be plenty of new professions created by AI" turn out to be daydreaming. Then situation is going to get ugly and sadly people will want to stop it and prohibit it while only way forward to something new would be to embrace it while strongly holding on democracy and human rights for everybody.
Have you ever done any videos about VARA rights? I HIGHLY recommend studying those laws and the history of those rights of artists. I have been able to hold the rights to mu murals when people try to replicate it. Moral rights to our work is very important and can really protect artists federally.
My work being taken/scraped/stolen isn’t the upsetting part for me. That would be more personal than this is. It’s the entirety of it. The system it’s feeding into.
Thank you for this video. I spent an hour today trying to convince the normies on Facebook that meta and ai are accelerating the enshittification of the internet and destroying the internet as we know it, and there was so much apologism that I felt like I was a crazy person living in an alternate reality. Glad to see I’m not the only one really spooked by this. I DO feel trapped by Meta with this crap. I haven’t joined cara yet because I didn’t want to contribute to their financial hardship until they’d sorted it out but I really like the portfolio option. Keeping an eye on that while I extricate myself from Meta. /sigh
Thanks for this video. I work as a photographer these days and was a little surprised that Adobe admits to looking through all photographers content for illegal activity. I think it's pretty crazy.
A client of mine bought an image of istockphoto that had money in it. I tried to open it in Photoshop to edit it but Adobe scanned the image and said it violated some term or other and it wouldn't open the image. So it's using AI so scan the image before opening it!!
Well I hope you know that for years Google has been going through your gallery looking for illegal activity....that same gallery that is viewable to anyone that has the link.
It’s just a good idea to wait for more information, then make an informed decision. The truth is, we can’t stop what’s coming, but we can learn how to prepare for it.
There is also a program called, Nightshade that shifts the shadowing in the pictures. I'm going to use whatever I can for now. I think this is going to cause a lot of art attorney's to crop up. Hopefully they'll work on a sliding scale, or if a corporation/ad agency steals your work, they can get a percentage at the end.
I would exercise caution tbh. Nightshade is another tech AI company, and I wouldn’t personally expect them not to make a profit off of my art. Plus, having learned AI programming, Nightshade is only proven on models that they themselves made. It’s a nice concept, but there’s risk.
@@Zeoytaccount Actually Nightshade is being developed by researchers at University of Chicago, and the people behind it are very vocal about artist rights. So not exactly "just another AI tech company". For now it is the only way us artists can fight back, so I'm hopeful about it!
Some people are deleting Instagram not because of Cara, but because they are tired of putting so much effort to posting art while onlyfns models get promoted above your work!
This is pretty much a nitpick and a technicality, but Cara _does not_ currently apply Glaze "protection" on every single piece of image file that's uploaded to Cara, because as Cara themselves said it would be too computationally and economically expensive to do so. What Cara _does_ do is they offer users the opportunity to _choose_ to apply Glaze on their art _but at a limited number_ of images per day. For more details on what all that really means I do recommend going to Cara directly, and/or to consult with digital artists & Web-programmers who are more well-versed and knowledgable about such Web technologies, _of which I most certainly_ *_am not_* an expert in such matters. _...All that said though:_ yes the makers of Cara _are_ artists and _they are_ making much effort towards protecting artists from AI-scraping and AI-related "bad stuffs". And _that_ at the very least is doing much more than what Instagram or Meta or Adobe or BeHance or ArtStation et cetera seem to be interested in doing on behalf of working artists, at this time.
Ive only tried glaze (standalone app) on my photos of art, not run them through a thief AI, but it does have the ability to change your works' style. Like a watercolor of a smooth lake can come out looking anywhere from a slightly grainy version to one looking like it was painted by small squigly brushstrokes of acrylic - depending on the chosen intensity. As far as selling a product on a market i would say i wish there was a better option, but there a few other protocols one can take to at least legally protect one's work. Style is one of those things that almost every artist copies on some level.
I completely agree with everything you said. I think it's best if we let Cara breath a bit, and not place too much pressure on it. You can use all the socials you want, but whenever you post an image, be sure to place a glaze on it. Forget your old work, that's already compromised. Just post new works with glaze or nightshade or whatever to help mess up the A.I.
I do love Cara, and I love the fact that it's by artists for artists... the only aspect of it that I have difficulty with is how i get my art to the general (non-artist) public.
I'll always only buy genuine human generated art. End of story. Who the heck will pay money towards AI manufactured images. The buck stops with the public to continue valuing true art.
Large corporations. Corporations that want to improve their bottom line at any cost. They will use a program they don't have to pay over an artist they do any day. And there will be things that used to have paid Artist artwork on products that don't anymore and you'll probably still buy them without even noticing.
@@kscott2655 I'll strictly and only buy directly from artists whom I know. Nothing on line. I like seeing an artwork for real because the dynamics change in a photograph.
@@kscott2655 So, art painted by humans is mostly valued by individuals, from now on. Time to really build up all around one's style and personality, as an artist, (and care about a community) instead of doing so much impersonal work. And I know... easy to say, but with those other things we were making a living. While, being a painter loved by own's work and/or personality, probably only will go well with a few artists. Well, that's the situation AI companies leaves us in. A lot leaving the field and working in something else, and disliking with deep disgust anything AI related (and their companies) *for ever* . We artists are not in mainstream numbers, so we can do only limited pressure, but the good news is, that, as other jobs get threatened (and I believe there WILL be a bunch), plus many safety issues (deep fakes, political manipulation, scams, etc) and other things that will pester people, AI is going to continue to get really bad press, which I predict it could become its main Achilles heel. Besides that ultimately, people want human made stuff to find that connection. So, funnily, the human factor (and imo, future stronger regulation) is what can end up making it worthless (even if never stopping in development), *in the market* at least. Which is what really count for us, indeed. I predict a strong backslash in so many areas... we are only seeing the very first shy complaints outside the art community. But I suspect that will grow. A lot.
Yeah, illustrative art is what most young artists are doing out of college It is not nearly as complex to learn on a professional scale as contemporary. Yet in LA galleries we see mostly the popular illustrative look.
My cousin is a big time AI bro. When I bring it up the risks he says “it’ll just create a whole new generation of artists” and “people were worried when social media happened.” He also brings up the WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes and said “they got their rights.” This is really frustrating to me as someone who has put so much effort into my art. What should I say? Also, I’m pretty sure Tumblr isn’t using art to train AI (though I suspect there’s a lot of AI images on there). Maybe it’s time to go back there to post art and hope the drama has died down.
He's right.... I'm a professional (and successful) artist. But I can clearly see this is going to create new artists that will be doing a LOT more than when I was coming up. Instead of artists making a few illustrations with their time / lives, you will have artists creating entire products. Short films for youtube? Entire world building art books? Or just seeing where they can take it to explore newer ideas (a lot of artists right now do very samey type stuff). I'm so excited to see all the various art being made as AI develops. Already on twitter i see all sorts of AI works being posted, videos and experiments as artists engage with the tech.... and it's SOOOO interesting and fresh. EXACTLY WHAT ART SHOULD BE. As more artists with passion bite into the tech, they will be making some amazing stuff. I love it, absolutely love it.
There is an opt out option on Tumblr. How well it works is another whole question.. as long as your art can be reached from the outside, anyone could use it without asking.
Just say him that AI companies can't use copyrighted work as training data freely: according to US legislation creating a product that competes in the same market of the stolen art violates the fourth factor in the definition of fair use. So artists have all the right to deny our consent to AI training. The lawsuits will end this savage robbery.
Last I heard Tumblr was in negotiations with OpenAi so Tumblr is selling your data. I found a great community on Bluesky and Mastodon Art plus lots of people outside of art are on there.
Stability AI, Midjourney etc have a terms agreement that if you stop paying the monthy subscription you must relinquish all the AI generated content immediatly. So in other words if you generate anything from their platform you have to pay then monthly in perpetuity or they can sue you.
what we need is a telephone book website of digital creators, who host their content away from the big players. be independent and take back power. ASAP
I’m so excited that you guys did this episode. I’m in the process of working out an Oracle deck and I’ve considered Kickstarter as an option. This was so helpful for me, I appreciate y’all!
please please please look up the software called Photoguard it messes up the ai big time when used on your art please review the software it made by mit
Thanks for the well thought out discussion. I can’t help but wonder if perhaps one outcome of the AI craziness might be a return to analog. Not merely an analog process in creating art, imagery and sculpture but also return to the real and physical gallery. The small town galleries that would host exhibits that would travel from gallery to gallery . I for one would love to see that.
I joined Cara following a similar video on the topic. As someone who works in oil on canvas, I immediately noticed when doing my first post that this platform is really not for traditional artists. Of course, illustrators and digital artists have my full empathy for what's going on with Meta, but Cara needs to get out of its current niche to become a real alternative to IG. And as for the webscraping that all AI companies do, I also have a normal website with my works, so they'll get it anyways... 🙂
I thought the same of Cara. But like art prof said, Cara is in its earliest stages. More artists with different backgrounds/styles may slowly trickle in. It was similar with IG.
Great information, thanks for sharing! I’ve not heard of Glaze, but it would be nice if artists could download it and apply to their art before posting on instagram. Not sure if that would work. A video on the different apps like Glaze would be interesting!
You can. Both Glaze and Nightshade are programs that you can download to your computer and use- just be warned, it takes a lot, test it on one picture at a time to not fry your computer. All the ideas of integrating it within online spaces is so people with weaker computers ca use it, or just to use it more easily.
I knew this would happened. AI can't read the copyright or plagiarism when using for creativity. It happened with a college student who used Grammarly to proofread her outline of her writing. The day after she submitted her work, the school called her suspension for cheating in her essay. She was upset and shocked that it happened as Grammarly had an AI and could not tell the difference between the copyright laws and creativity
One of things I will never understand is that why people cheat to win with using AI art for art competitions, recently people use AI art for pokemon art competitions, theres me worrying about the copyright law whatever I should do fan art or not. The AI art makes me question the copyright law in detail, is copyright law is protecting artists and normal working class people? Or copyright law protects rich people and companies who manipulate people? I uninstalled Adobe products to get avoid being spied on, Adobe tricked artists inside the terms and conditions which translates to we are spying on you in private files mode and we steal your art without consent. I could not share my human art on Instagram now because I know that metaverse steals art, nowadays i post writing alot on social media and repeat written content. I think its time we need more privacy and physical buildings that gives art community a physical place to go to instead of social media uses
Unfortunately this was the week I was supposed to work on my instagram page so I could get some traffic for my art on etsy. It's like standing on a dock watching the ship that I missed, was it in fact the Titanic? Should I jump on the Cara steamboat? Decisions, decisions. Thanks for the information it's hard to find out what is actually going on regarding these issues.
I hope you find your actual artists dreams, and draw to starve your distractions, draw the path, be happy with your art and find your good path. Care about you, and get started. Good luck
"I'm not leaving Instagram because I have a following there" is an incredibly dangerous concept, and exactly what Meta is counting on. This proves they can literally do ANYTHING (including openly stealing our art) and get away with it. (I get it, I really do. And this isn't meant to be criticism at all. It's just ... frightening. Meta is winning, because they have become this toxic boyfriend beating you to a pulp once a week, but whom you can't leave for fear of being alone.) What I would like to know, though: what's a following on Instagram worth these days, anyway? I mean, I used Instagram for art related stuff only, but over the past couple of months, artsy posts have completely vanished from my timeline. All I get now are memes and reels. Not even images from my closest contacts are showing anymore, unless I directly go to their profile.
Yes, and that really is what these companies are betting on is that approach, and yes, I realize by us staying on there just contributes to that. I don’t like it at all! In my mind, things are happening so quickly, and we really don’t know where we’re gonna be in even a month. So I am doing more of a wait-and-see. -Prof Lieu
@@artprof Aye, these are fairly trying times for the community. And again, not meant as criticism, after all I myself also took a waiting stance for quite a while before finally ditching Instagram - and I don't even have any financial stakes in this. Actually, rather thanks for talking about this in a calm and rational way!
Just joined Cara. I'd say give it some time to get used to since it's now hitting the scene in recent weeks. Though, being the stranglehold of widespread social media that is Meta (Instagram/Facebook) it's gonna be an uphill battle. As cool as the images created by AI may seems, the practices they're going about with could potentially backfire. It's no secret to why Meta chooses to train AI into scraping all existing images and then claim is as their own. It's no different to many would point out as plagiarism. Instagram is the biggest juggernaut of social media. But I'd say give it some time for Cara to flourish. That being said, with them coming out of the woodwork telling you that they've trained AI to make artworks only now should tell you everything you need to know. Kinda scary, really.
It just feels like the tech world is taking a shot at the creative community right now. Adobe, Meta and all the AI engines. With 4 of the 5 top companies in the world investing in AI there is an inevitability about this. I'm not against AI being used in an ethical way, there are some artists using it in ways the button pushers, casual users will never match. Getting to an ethical use is the challenge as well as having people be honest about their usage. I'm a traditional artist and hate how the AI debate is turning creative communities against each other. Artists are a robust bunch I have little doubt we will get through this and continue to thrive. Let's not loose sight of the fact that all digital art is still a fledgling industry that has only really been around 50 years, it will continue to adapt and grow. Where us traditional artist can count in the thousands of years and yes we are still adapting too..
Thank You for this important update concerning meta unv. & ai. I'm going to play it safe & delete all my photo's & videos for now . I will relpace my images with images that have the glaze protection.
This sucks I finally woke up the courage to make my own comic. And I post my character up. I’m not a big name, of course, and I’m not gonna lie I’m scared but you still have to fight through it to make my dreams come true.
In many ways, artists need to take the blame for the sorry state of intellectual property rights. Nearly 9 years ago, I posted on all major platoforms that this day was coming. I was roundly shut down, even banned on some forums. The reaction was most swift among photographers and photography sites, including IG. It was very disheartening. I was alerted to this harvesting during a court case. That's when I realized others need to be alerted. I even made presentations at academic conferences, but to mostly clueless audiences. Most were just interested in how to get more hits and more subscribes and more likes. None understood the stakes. It's hard for me to imagine artists with no imagination. Good luck to you.
As a concept artist having been driven out of the industry by AI, the future belongs to indie artists. You can choose to scale with AI, or revert to traditional. The worst thing you can do, however, is to hide from it. The more you learn about it, the more you can help yourself and others.
The reason why it takes a while to post on Cara is because of Glaze. Glaze can take hours to process an artwork with minimal artefacts and anomalies so that it is still visually appealing. If you ever use the software yourself locally, you are essentially trying to balance image quality with an effective amount of pixel corruption. Unfortunately, this means the more you corrupt the pixels of an image, the worse your image will look. I do not know the specifics but I imagine Cara is set to do this automatically in which it likely has to make several passes to maintain the balance. Using... an AI-based algorithm. Though not in the same sense of machine learning that is being used to train image generation engines.
I'm not against AI in itself. AI has a lot of good applications that can further our understanding of the world. In my own field, AI is being used to monitor wildlife for conservation purposes! However, it is generative AI and how it is built off stolen art and then being touted as a way to replace the very people who created the art it is trained on that is the issue. I'm all for ethical uses of AI, especially as a way to protect rights of humans in a world where we're seen as just another number on a spreadsheet.
I believe it is not automatic. Yo need to opt for it, but I understood you can do it a number of times per day (otherwise it'd kill the servers, so they had to put that limitation).
Personally I think animated films will lack the spirit that traditional ones have. Feel like they will suck. There was also a writers strike . What writer will want to participate in the creation of a.i films. Part of the writers strike was to prevent the use of a.i for writing scripts . Also a.i can’t do glass blowing, they can’t throw clay on a pottery wheel or make a sculpture from wood or metal. A.i can’t produce oil and acrylic paintings . What such artists truly want is for people to buy ones real world originals . Print reproductions are a reflection of the original. I think it’s important for artists to share the process of the development of one’s work on instagram and to post a lot of video showing their hand in the creation of their pieces. I’m wondering if glaze will be a Wordpress plug in for artists websites. I’ll check to see if it is. Good concept. A.i art at the moment isn’t that great. I tested firefly and while the results are cool there is something artificial about it. I think the best thing to use it for is concept work to help develop real world paint to canvas paintings.
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Sadly, no, Cara doesn't glaze automatically, you have to use the cara glaze page which is currently disabled, following an attack right before the Insta migration. But, when the Cara Glaze page will work again, you will be able to post directly from the glazing page, or just glaze without having to post. It's not quick, but you get an email when your picture is ready !
Ai is doing this with peoples faces and bodies also… to create ai influencers. Becareful ❤ I’m glad my photos are offline because multiple things were made of me against my permission.
@@artprof thank you 🙏🏻 for your response and also for teaching us these helpful tools to continue protecting artists. You bring a lot to the community even if it’s people wanting to protect photos of their family all is good to know. What we post goes out to what feels like an uncontrolled abyss but you’re helping us navigate that and teach us ways to protect our work. That is beyond helpful! Thank you! 😊
It is not automatic. And if they will be able to keep that service up, is something I am not sure about, if the site keeps growing at this fast pace. But you can always apply Glaze, or Nightshade, or both, locally, by downloading both free apps in your computer.
Nightshade may have potential... if literally everyone putting pictures on the web uses it, not just artists. Even then GenAI can just got back to previous versions of the dataset if new versions are poisoned. Glaze always felt like a cope to me. The psychological profile of the common user of GenAI won't care for the difference you have shown on the John Tenniel. We need to start thinking bigger than "style" and such things. Copyright won't save us. We need legit enforcement for identifiable metadata and a supply for our demand of a way to filter out what's real and not in a post-AI web. The old net may soon be locked behind due to geopolitical damage. This is way bigger than art.
AI art is soulless, despite how hyperrealistic it can get. Art needs imagination to move forward, something that AI can't replicate. That said, artists will need to evolve and adapt in different ways. Traditional art jobs are just not feasible anymore.
Regarding the slow "update" after posting to Cara: This might be due to Glaze, as this needs additional processing time (and it most likely uses kind of a FIFO pipeline for processing). Just a thought. Overall Cara sounds interesting, I'll give it a try (since I'm only an amateur photographer, I did delete all my posts on Instagram; I might go back when they offer an easy option to opt out, since the form they require here in Germany is complete bullshit, as they require us to state why we think our work is worth protecting - WTF do they think how copyright works???). What I find so interesting about Cara is this idea of having a timeline and a portfolio built from those timeline posts. Glaze I only see as a nice bonus feature.
While understandable Artists are reacting to this is w/e way. They need to know 10 other open source and closed source image gen models already got all the images from instagram a long time ago... meta is just one of them. open Ai Dalle, mid journey, S-diffusion. Your work is gonna/already get scanned by A.I no matter where it is. Cara is just a platform that for now authenticates the work you show, it doesn't stop any A.I. from using your work and incorporate it in training.
Yes... but it makes (Glaze, web glaze in cara, Nightshade, etc) it harder for some actors. Even that tiny bit is worth it. A big point of using Cara is that the owners have explicitly said they are against AI (unlike any other portfolio or mainstream site), and cure the website constantly to ban AI generated images. A (more or less) clean site has value on its own. Whether more or less successfully doing all this, is besides the point when you consider it from an ethical point of view. Meaning, a bunch of us join just for principles, same as many deleted their high end profiles from Art Station (and now from Instagram) long ago.
Thank you Clara...I have a small IG following of 238...so, there's that. I may check out CARA, not sure. When I post my art again on IG, I think I'll just make sure I have as big a watermark as possible. I also have a website that I'll be doing a lot more with....selling & promoting, reviewing, commentary. I often feel overwhelmed with all the complications of what we all may be dealing with in world of AI. And then all the bad actors out there working hard to steal whatever they can.
Good video. I'm an older, retired person who is just getting back to fine art (traditional) after 40-plus years as a corporate graphic designer. I just started posting a few pieces on Instagram and have signed up with Cara. Here's a basic question for posting on any electronic media site: Is it worth it to add a watermark on the image before posting? Thanks.
You can post with a watermark, but sometimes it's more distracting than it's worth. Even with a watermark your art can circulate in ways you don't want it to. - Mia, Art Prof Staff
We need patience, and for the moment defend us as best as we can. But this theft will be stopped. I mean, nobody with a minimum of knowledge of US law can honestly argue that the use of copyrighted art to train AI is fair use. AI creates a competing product, and that has never been declared fair use: it doesn't make sense, because copyright is here to protect and value our work.
You could use AI to create a piece of art and then correcting it to make it more accurate and enjoyable, that would be both educational and engaging. A video like this could really highlight how important the human touch is in true art. It would be interesting to see the experimentation process, pointing out stereotypes, errors, and details that don't quite work. This kind of content could bring more attention and awareness to the role of human creativity in art. LLMs are just a statistical tool, not that impresive once you have seen their limits, they are just a helpful gimmick. By the way older generations seems to be totally unaware and unwilling to explore LLMs so they are easily fooled by them.
I joined Cara, and I am wondering about the Glaze part because there is a note on there saying Glaze is disabled due to an abuse incident. Are our images stil automatically Glazed when we upload? Thank you for your videos, very helpful!
The only diffrence between your art and AI art is you can copywrite your art. Ai art is copywrite free so anybody can use it regardless who prompted ai to create it. So it learns by looking at everyones art. Artists have learned from other artists. Businesses always look for ways to reduce costs. Eventually even business will be replaced by AI. The writing is on the wall.
So am I correct in understanding that Meta will only use AI training on public posts ? So anything that is not public will not be used in their AI training ? (According to them) Is that correct?
Supposedly yes, that is what they are currently saying, that they can't or won't use things posted to private accounts. But they also say stuff like shadow banning isn't real, so I guess how much you want to trust what Meta says is up to you. 🤷♀️ -Lauryn, Art Prof Teaching Artist
I appreciate the overview of what is going on with these platforms. Quick question. It seems that Cara is limited to those who are using some sort of painting medium on board or canvas. True or not.
i downloaded everything and deleted all of my art from my instagram. Not sure if i will keep use Meta's products ever again. IF i am putting up anything onto instagram or facebook (husband uses FB and sometimes uses some of my art) or anywhere else it will be nightshaded and/or glazed firsthand. (I am in EU and have opted out but i really do not believe Meta or any "AI - vacuume) will respect my opt out.) I am gonna start to use Cara instead, i am hoping it will become a good app for us artists. They are doing babysteps right now and im very aware of that and it is ok.
Thank you so much for the update... Question: Im from Europe and I never saw an opt out option anywhere... Where was it you said people in Europe can opt out? Im building webpages and intent to write an article about this subject for the Danish audience, so I would like to find more valid information about this.
We can't verify personally since we're all in the US, but it sounds like it should be in your Privacy and Security settings of your IG/Facebook account. There's an AI section and then a place where you have the "right to object". Good luck! -Lauryn, Art Prof Teaching Artist
I understanding from what I’ve read is that the images have already been scraped. They didn’t ask anybody for permission before they did it. That’s the part that is so infuriating for people!! -Prof Lieu
You need to know that there is a total way of replicating every single one of the artists watching this in words and other ways, without any use of a scan or photo.
My fear is that cara's not gonna be able to handle the influx of people and have the funds to maintain it. I mean look at some streaming/social media platforms that were all the buzz and then had to shut their doors because it just became too expensive to run a social media platform. i.e. Mixer was a competitor to Twitch and they closed down after a year. After the dust settles, I wonder if Cara will actually last or will become just another obsolete social media platform that no one will venture to again.
Meta has been screwed for years …it really can’t get any worse for me.. at least I don’t want to be around to see that ..they had a bloody minded attitude to artists and photographers right from the start ,right from the takeover ..I’m glad I didn’t work at Insta in those days ..it would have been pretty awful for many …Meta are like Meta Facists ..it honestly scares me the way they disassemble social connections in such a dedicated way ?
IG was great until it wasn’t anymore. I feel Cara would be the same. Started off with a good intention but the pressure to upkeep and it takes money and they’ll have to put ads in. Nothing is ever free. With AI art rampant all over, I’m just not going to post anymore.
Ai generated imagery has destroyed more than big name artists, anyone trying to run a pod sticker or art shop cannot complete with the output from a prompt writer. Human art has been drowned out.
My plan is to move all my essential art to Cara, then delete my IG wall and all my uploads, upload black squares in protest and keep my IG account to keep my followers. Then when I have a new post on Cara I'll simply post a link to the post in an IG story.
I’m not sure there’s a difference in the sense of copying style. We do it as actual artists. Prompting just takes the skill away is the difference. The truth is that the only way to not have our art stolen or for others to be inspired by it and incorporate into their practice (speaking on real artists not prompters but also to avoid ai scraping) is to never share or sell your art which then means your art isn’t alive. It’s the trade off. Either be hidden and the art doesn’t live, or it lives and is at risk of inspiring someone or being scrapped by ai. I’m probably not gonna post on instagram anymore or join Cara. My photos and art for me only. I’ll let my stuff not live.
Pretty sure the reason images dont show up in your portfolio immediately on Cara is because they Glaze it first. While my existing artwork on Instagram is already scraped, I would never had uploaded anything if I had known. I will continue to stay there for the time being, but never post anything there unless it is glazed first. For video content Im not sure what is the best advice at the moment. This seems very dynamic and changing right now. I hope profit and power driven Meta (and Adobe) goes bankrupt and is replaced by ethically driven companies
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I noticed that a few local sci-fi/fantasy publishers started using AI generated covers. It made me not want to buy their books any more.
You're not alone in that. Hell, I wish more book were printed with just plain covers.
I think it sends a very worrying message to your audience if you, as an author or publishing house, use generative AI for your cover: if there's AI on the outside there's probably AI on the inside as well. Same with album covers. Any artform that uses AI 'art' in its promotion immediately cheapens itself, insults its audience, and says it couldn't give a s**t about other artists.
Would you be able to list them or point me in the direction?
@@wenwilloughby8197 The worst thing is that book industry in general has moved away from genuine painted covers with photomontage covers like two decades ago. So, the replacement of artists has already occurred.
Though stuff like D&D, Warhammer, etc. was an exception and D&D started doing AI.
@@fuzonzord9301 We had that, yes. But still, the difference was very clear, very easy to spot, even for non artists. And usually fully painted covers could be priced higher, and importantly, it was often well accepted the price difference compared to a cover made just by stock photos and some photoshopping. Plus, some of them included some heavy paint-over. I have made solely full (no photo involved) painted covers, and I have always perceived the higher value that writers tend to assign to painted artwork. But AI is using existing artists' styles, and producing images in a ridiculous portion of time. I hadn't any problems or conflict with photo montages, for this whole reason. Plus, as Holy says, there is still a lot of manual work in the photobashing work. Way, way more than in a text prompt.
A lot of people seem confused about Cara. It was not built as a replacement for Instagram. It came about after Artstation embraced AI and Jingna threw around an idea of creating a place for artists that resisted ai, a place where AD's or anyone wanting to hire artists could go to find artists that don't use ai as well as just a place for artists to gather and learn.
There are a lot of traditional artists on there! I joined Cara about a week and a half after it was launched in January 2023 and I'm fully traditional (watercolor and gouache). I follow a ton of other traditional artists including many fine artists and wildlife artists. Many of the artists that first joined the site were fleeing Artstation - so, they were industry professionals that often work digitally.
Cara has a lot going for it (I mean, other than being owned by someone that isn't a huge corporation and actively fights for artist rights). There is a social feed integrated for community with a 5000 character limit and every post is chronological. No algorithm to fight. No "we'll show your post to 10% of your following and if they like it THEN we'll show it to more of your following" bs.
AI images have ruined so much for me, that Cara is a refuge of art where AI isn't allowed. When I scroll through there I know it's real art made by people. I can *enjoy* art again without questioning everything I see. It's so much more than just "but I have to build an audience!". Not everything is about numbers.
However, if you want to build a varied audience then BlueSky Social is where to go. A true social platform with no algorithm and a huge array of moderation tools. It lacks a gallery feature however (which is something Cara provides), so it's more like Twitter in setup.
I use Cara as my gallery-social and Blue Sky as my general-audience-social. Getting away from all things Meta several years ago was the best thing I've ever done for my health and my art.
why are artists NOT getting a class action lawsuit figured out for Meta. This is possibly the biggest instance of IP theft of our time
Because artists are too poor and right now the courts are packed with anti-regulation judges.
I only used FB a short while to try and promote my art, but I knew of FB/Meta’s TOS going back near 2 decades. They’ve always claimed (via their TOS) all forms of data a User provides as their own.
They didn’t make it clear, which is why they have had some landmark cases where they settled several class-action lawsuits globally.
It’s pretty much the same with all social media platforms, and even service providers like Google.
They embed their intent in lengthy TOS’s that they know most will never read.
The use of “Legalese” is also an effective barrier to prevent their intent from being known too quickly as most people aren’t familiar with Legal language.
It’s shifty at best, sinister at worst!
I tried hotlinking art off my DeviantArt page to FB, but their algorithms are wonky. Not sure how it even works with promotion of content. Same for IG, even X/Twitter.
Can confirm that Cara is not just for digital art. One of my most popular portfolio images I posted months before the big blowout with meta, was a drawing of Calcifer in oil pastel. I still get notifications about it sometimes XD
In a sense everything we post is digital art no matter what the original media is …and I’m a painter ..of paint not pixels ..I don’t see a problem with digital art as that’s what it is and I even like the idea of starting in a physical way ..even finishing those works but have my own work as a digital starting point .although I don’t need to really go there …only so many seconds in a day .glad it’s good for you .
my most popular which i posted looong ago before the big blowup too, is simple drawing of Dream of the endless(The sandman). i get notifications everyday : ) I'm surprised and honored everytime
I have been using it and seeing traditional art a lot, so I think the technique does not matter but it should be art (in my understanding)
A good tip I learned to fight AI from completely stealing your style is to take images of your art in a WIP view. They don’t actually have to be WIP, but take them the same way. Ex: You have a canvas you painted sitting on a table, or you take a picture of your IPad with your art on it. When AI sees this, not only will it train itself on your art, but also the environment you’re in, which will make AI think that is part of your art too.
Ok, but what stops someone to cut the painting out of the photo, scale/transform perspective back to normal in Ps, and then feed it to AI?
It takes just 2 minutes.
@@QuadroVFThe scale in which Meta is doing the training is probably huge. It would be inconvenient for them to go into such detail. Imagine someone at Meta manually cropping millions of images to prepare them for AI training.
@@QuadroVF true…IDK, maybe take lower resolution photos too so that even if that happens, the resolution will look shit when they crop it. They’d have to zoom in, which would already lower the resolution to begin with. Photoshop can do wonders, but I’ve found you can’t make an already low resolution photo look 4K. Photoshop has to make up information that isn’t there and it just makes it look worse usually.
Not saying it has to be 380p or anything, but maybe like 720p?
@@marek_tarnawski It would be inconvenient but they have both the means and the people to prepare data they collected (without paying the users) beforehand to feed their own AI. Though, it would cost millions of dollars already, so not an easy decision to make for them either, but they have to prepare data anyway, to clean from data that would make the results "unsatisfying". Adding a few steps is a choice that could greatly help them having better results in the long term.
When people reach the crisis of meaning our human artwork will be greatly valued.
I agree. It'll have to come to that. People have been spoiled by being constantly entertained and seeing art everywhere--- and a soul-less dark age needs to reign for awhile.
If you're a real artist: don't stop or change; despite the fact that this is a depressing transitional time.
I think that living in a world where everything is replaced by robots and technology has advanced so that people live with no responsibilities or problems makes life meaningless
I'm not joining Cara, I'm not deleting my Instagram account, but I'm not going to post on there anymore. I don't know what's going to happen going forward. But one thing for certain, I'm not going to stop drawing.
Cara is made by artists for artists and they have a no AI policy. It's a good app but it's super new so it's a little rough around the edges. It might be good to check out, but again, it's just really new.
I am loving Cara and I’m not gonna post on ig anymore
It is getting better and better and faster and faster. They just don't have the underlying infrastacture to handle so many ppl, but they are working on it :)
@@exclamation.it’ll sell out once it’s popular
Just temporarily disable your account
Excellent advice...I agree artists should not take any drastic action (like permanently deleting their artwork from the internet) until the dust settles.
I agree Trent.
As a professional tradigital artist and animator, I heartily agree. Even though I’ve just joined Cara, I’m not leaving Instagram. Especially since it puts myself out there. If I left Instagram out of fear of being obsolete, it will just end up making that fear come true, similar to what a certain turtle from a certain king fu movie said, “One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it.”
I'm confused about Glaze being integrated with Cara. From what I saw, there is a Glaze utility within Cara, but you still have to choose to process it yourself. There are different options for the Glaze output, so if it were automatic when uploading to Cara, that is not apparent. I have Glaze installed on my own computer, but not everyone has a computer that is powerful enough to run it. In those cases, I think the Glaze web app is a good idea.
I see everyone saying that Cara is 'auto glazing' images, and I don't think that's enabled right now.. (my last upload was 10 days ago)
Prior to Cara coming into the spotlight, they had a webglaze interface, that would allow the users to have daily tokens for glazing images, but they went through an abuse/attack and had to disable it, so as of now, it's DISABLED as far as I know... you gotta manually glaze your stuff on your PC...
Thank you. If I can glaze on my PC then does that means I could post anywhere without worry?
@@BunnyLang Well, no. Glaze might be worth something in the short term, but 'AI' is a rapidly moving target. so it's most likely just a question of time before some future AI can cope with the techniques Glaze would apply to your images right now.
Posting only to sites which resist web-scraping (like Cara, from what I have heard) is a somewhat better defense. Though really only because any change made to the website to better resist web-scraping automatically and retroactively applies to all files on the site, while updates in Glaze won't have any automatic or retroactive effect on the AI-resistance of the files you previously glazed.
@@BunnyLang Yes. As far as I'm aware, Glaze protects from style stealing. You can also use Nightshade along with Glaze or alone - it is called AI poison/scrambles everything for AI (but it is somewhat visible on images, depending on your chosen strenght).
@@vishtem33 The authors of Glaze and NightShade (using the tools in your PC, then uploading, it is not difficult) have said that while that is true, they will also keep updating the tools (or creating new ones) to counter that. Even if it just makes things a bit harder for the scrappers and AI companies, it's worth it. And I kind of almost predict that more tools like these, improved and better, from other developers are going to show up, constantly.
But I like your point about how much better is having the images in a site that prevents (or try to) web scrapping, both technically and legally, and that auto updates their glaze version, that is cool... But.. wouldn't that need the uploaded images to be glazed constantly? (I don't know how that whole thing happens on server). Wouldn't that end up deteriorating the images?. I mean, if you use locally Glaze and NightShade (if you also want to make a sort of an attack, lol), and do so any time these tools update (meaning, you downloading the updated apps to your PC/Mac/Etc) , you would do it over your originals, not an already Glazed image, so if there's degradation it would not add up. Yep, it would need for one to be often re-uploading (with major apps upgrades). Or am I missing something?
I am more about the social measures. Like sites (like Cara) that have people curating the artwork constantly to not allow AI art (which can be spotted easily by artists), even done so by the community, that has no AI art category, and which will ban anything detected as such. And in which clients will be more sure to find only human made art. At least the clients willing to find only such, which I suspect are going to be in an increasing number, and human made art becoming more and more valuable.
About the technical measures, I have heard that about cropping or etc... but that misses the point. As we are aiming to the big mass operations.
I am planning on joining Cara definitely. I don't want meta AI stealing my images. I'm new at this so i haven't even been active on ig thank God! Cara has no art buyers but that'll be a place where i send them to check out my art if they ask.
I just joined Cara! Is anyone else there too? I'd like to make art friends
I am too
Hi there! I'm on Cara too
HIII im just joined too !!
Might be joining soon !
I have! I haven’t been drawing though TvT
I am both a Master artist and a software engineer, I want all artists to know, that AI will not replace you, even animation requires human intervention, With that said, artist need to change their strategies to survive doing this work.
Tell that to the big media companies who are replacing artists with AI art prompters. Some companies wont hire you unless you know how to code and I'm like those are two separate things, being an artist and being a coder but apparently they are gonna be merged.
As difficult as it is to say this, but the professional world of artists is going to shrink drastically. Even if companies start paying artists for training data or even stop training on public data, the cat is out of the bag. Producers, CEOs, and middle managers absolutely love this technology because it can do the work on dozens of artists for substantially less money. They will continue to us it and already have started using it. To give a stark example, the game Stellaris has added NPCs (non player characters ) voiced by AI, as well as generated assets for the game using AI.
You're stating a hard truth that has come too fast for people to accept. Perhaps the only consolation is that many, many professions totally unrelated to art are about to also be made redundant.
Ppl are not interested in artists situation yet. They will get interested when a.i. will take their jobs too.
Politicians will get interested when this time their fantasies "there will be plenty of new professions created by AI" turn out to be daydreaming.
Then situation is going to get ugly and sadly people will want to stop it and prohibit it while only way forward to something new would be to embrace it while strongly holding on democracy and human rights for everybody.
And substantially less quality.
@@SonnyBurnett2012 nah, that will make them care about THEIR situation.
Have you ever done any videos about VARA rights? I HIGHLY recommend studying those laws and the history of those rights of artists. I have been able to hold the rights to mu murals when people try to replicate it.
Moral rights to our work is very important and can really protect artists federally.
My work being taken/scraped/stolen isn’t the upsetting part for me. That would be more personal than this is. It’s the entirety of it. The system it’s feeding into.
Thank you for this video. I spent an hour today trying to convince the normies on Facebook that meta and ai are accelerating the enshittification of the internet and destroying the internet as we know it, and there was so much apologism that I felt like I was a crazy person living in an alternate reality. Glad to see I’m not the only one really spooked by this. I DO feel trapped by Meta with this crap. I haven’t joined cara yet because I didn’t want to contribute to their financial hardship until they’d sorted it out but I really like the portfolio option. Keeping an eye on that while I extricate myself from Meta. /sigh
Thanks for this video. I work as a photographer these days and was a little surprised that Adobe admits to looking through all photographers content for illegal activity. I think it's pretty crazy.
A client of mine bought an image of istockphoto that had money in it. I tried to open it in Photoshop to edit it but Adobe scanned the image and said it violated some term or other and it wouldn't open the image. So it's using AI so scan the image before opening it!!
Well I hope you know that for years Google has been going through your gallery looking for illegal activity....that same gallery that is viewable to anyone that has the link.
It’s just a good idea to wait for more information, then make an informed decision. The truth is, we can’t stop what’s coming, but we can learn how to prepare for it.
There is also a program called, Nightshade that shifts the shadowing in the pictures. I'm going to use whatever I can for now. I think this is going to cause a lot of art attorney's to crop up. Hopefully they'll work on a sliding scale, or if a corporation/ad agency steals your work, they can get a percentage at the end.
I would exercise caution tbh. Nightshade is another tech AI company, and I wouldn’t personally expect them not to make a profit off of my art.
Plus, having learned AI programming, Nightshade is only proven on models that they themselves made. It’s a nice concept, but there’s risk.
@@Zeoytaccount Actually Nightshade is being developed by researchers at University of Chicago, and the people behind it are very vocal about artist rights. So not exactly "just another AI tech company". For now it is the only way us artists can fight back, so I'm hopeful about it!
@@ennuiwolf And you can use Glaze and Nightshade together, so that's another plus
@@ennuiwolf Well said. And they have said that they will keep updating and adapting their apps to counter any "improvement" on the AI side.
See the Smithsonian November 2023 article on Nightshade
Some people are deleting Instagram not because of Cara, but because they are tired of putting so much effort to posting art while onlyfns models get promoted above your work!
Thank you so much for posting this. It's been hard for me to grasp exactly what's going on w/ AI.
You're very welcome! We are still trying our best to figure it all out, too. We're in it together! - Mia, Art Prof Staff
This is pretty much a nitpick and a technicality, but Cara _does not_ currently apply Glaze "protection" on every single piece of image file that's uploaded to Cara, because as Cara themselves said it would be too computationally and economically expensive to do so. What Cara _does_ do is they offer users the opportunity to _choose_ to apply Glaze on their art _but at a limited number_ of images per day. For more details on what all that really means I do recommend going to Cara directly, and/or to consult with digital artists & Web-programmers who are more well-versed and knowledgable about such Web technologies, _of which I most certainly_ *_am not_* an expert in such matters.
_...All that said though:_ yes the makers of Cara _are_ artists and _they are_ making much effort towards protecting artists from AI-scraping and AI-related "bad stuffs".
And _that_ at the very least is doing much more than what Instagram or Meta or Adobe or BeHance or ArtStation et cetera seem to be interested in doing on behalf of working artists, at this time.
1:20 In USA you don't have different laws, you have wrong laws. Call your lawmakers to correct them or they won't get your vote next time.
Ive only tried glaze (standalone app) on my photos of art, not run them through a thief AI, but it does have the ability to change your works' style. Like a watercolor of a smooth lake can come out looking anywhere from a slightly grainy version to one looking like it was painted by small squigly brushstrokes of acrylic - depending on the chosen intensity. As far as selling a product on a market i would say i wish there was a better option, but there a few other protocols one can take to at least legally protect one's work. Style is one of those things that almost every artist copies on some level.
I completely agree with everything you said. I think it's best if we let Cara breath a bit, and not place too much pressure on it. You can use all the socials you want, but whenever you post an image, be sure to place a glaze on it. Forget your old work, that's already compromised. Just post new works with glaze or nightshade or whatever to help mess up the A.I.
I do love Cara, and I love the fact that it's by artists for artists... the only aspect of it that I have difficulty with is how i get my art to the general (non-artist) public.
I'll always only buy genuine human generated art. End of story. Who the heck will pay money towards AI manufactured images. The buck stops with the public to continue valuing true art.
Large corporations. Corporations that want to improve their bottom line at any cost. They will use a program they don't have to pay over an artist they do any day. And there will be things that used to have paid Artist artwork on products that don't anymore and you'll probably still buy them without even noticing.
Book covers, movies, video games, card games, board games, puzzles, greeting cards, t- shirts, the list goes on.
@@kscott2655 I'll strictly and only buy directly from artists whom I know. Nothing on line. I like seeing an artwork for real because the dynamics change in a photograph.
@@kscott2655 So, art painted by humans is mostly valued by individuals, from now on. Time to really build up all around one's style and personality, as an artist, (and care about a community) instead of doing so much impersonal work. And I know... easy to say, but with those other things we were making a living. While, being a painter loved by own's work and/or personality, probably only will go well with a few artists. Well, that's the situation AI companies leaves us in. A lot leaving the field and working in something else, and disliking with deep disgust anything AI related (and their companies) *for ever* . We artists are not in mainstream numbers, so we can do only limited pressure, but the good news is, that, as other jobs get threatened (and I believe there WILL be a bunch), plus many safety issues (deep fakes, political manipulation, scams, etc) and other things that will pester people, AI is going to continue to get really bad press, which I predict it could become its main Achilles heel. Besides that ultimately, people want human made stuff to find that connection. So, funnily, the human factor (and imo, future stronger regulation) is what can end up making it worthless (even if never stopping in development), *in the market* at least. Which is what really count for us, indeed. I predict a strong backslash in so many areas... we are only seeing the very first shy complaints outside the art community. But I suspect that will grow. A lot.
Yeah, illustrative art is what most young artists are doing out of college It is not nearly as complex to learn on a professional scale as contemporary. Yet in LA galleries we see mostly the popular illustrative look.
It’s inevitable that every single platform will sell out at some point. You tell me one platform that has not. You can’t.
My cousin is a big time AI bro. When I bring it up the risks he says “it’ll just create a whole new generation of artists” and “people were worried when social media happened.” He also brings up the WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes and said “they got their rights.” This is really frustrating to me as someone who has put so much effort into my art. What should I say? Also, I’m pretty sure Tumblr isn’t using art to train AI (though I suspect there’s a lot of AI images on there). Maybe it’s time to go back there to post art and hope the drama has died down.
He's right.... I'm a professional (and successful) artist. But I can clearly see this is going to create new artists that will be doing a LOT more than when I was coming up. Instead of artists making a few illustrations with their time / lives, you will have artists creating entire products. Short films for youtube? Entire world building art books? Or just seeing where they can take it to explore newer ideas (a lot of artists right now do very samey type stuff).
I'm so excited to see all the various art being made as AI develops. Already on twitter i see all sorts of AI works being posted, videos and experiments as artists engage with the tech.... and it's SOOOO interesting and fresh. EXACTLY WHAT ART SHOULD BE. As more artists with passion bite into the tech, they will be making some amazing stuff. I love it, absolutely love it.
There is an opt out option on Tumblr. How well it works is another whole question.. as long as your art can be reached from the outside, anyone could use it without asking.
Just say him that AI companies can't use copyrighted work as training data freely: according to US legislation creating a product that competes in the same market of the stolen art violates the fourth factor in the definition of fair use. So artists have all the right to deny our consent to AI training. The lawsuits will end this savage robbery.
Last I heard Tumblr was in negotiations with OpenAi so Tumblr is selling your data. I found a great community on Bluesky and Mastodon Art plus lots of people outside of art are on there.
Tumblr also started scrapping everything on that platform to feed it to AI stuff... :(
Stability AI, Midjourney etc have a terms agreement that if you stop paying the monthy subscription you must relinquish all the AI generated content immediatly. So in other words if you generate anything from their platform you have to pay then monthly in perpetuity or they can sue you.
This is why I'm so confused.
You don't own things made by the ai.
what we need is a telephone book website of digital creators, who host their content away from the big players. be independent and take back power. ASAP
I’m so excited that you guys did this episode. I’m in the process of working out an Oracle deck and I’ve considered Kickstarter as an option. This was so helpful for me, I appreciate y’all!
please please please look up the software called Photoguard it messes up the ai big time when used on your art please review the software it made by mit
Thanks for the well thought out discussion.
I can’t help but wonder if perhaps one outcome of the AI craziness might be a return to analog. Not merely an analog process in creating art, imagery and sculpture but also return to the real and physical gallery. The small town galleries that would host exhibits that would travel from gallery to gallery . I for one would love to see that.
I would also like to add that even if you are not well known but specialize in a niche subject, you should be concerned about AI usage.
I joined Cara following a similar video on the topic. As someone who works in oil on canvas, I immediately noticed when doing my first post that this platform is really not for traditional artists. Of course, illustrators and digital artists have my full empathy for what's going on with Meta, but Cara needs to get out of its current niche to become a real alternative to IG. And as for the webscraping that all AI companies do, I also have a normal website with my works, so they'll get it anyways... 🙂
I thought the same of Cara. But like art prof said, Cara is in its earliest stages. More artists with different backgrounds/styles may slowly trickle in. It was similar with IG.
thank you very much for this video ..
I miss the good old days when we didn't have to worry about this ai thing 😢😑😡
Great information, thanks for sharing! I’ve not heard of Glaze, but it would be nice if artists could download it and apply to their art before posting on instagram. Not sure if that would work. A video on the different apps like Glaze would be interesting!
You can. Both Glaze and Nightshade are programs that you can download to your computer and use- just be warned, it takes a lot, test it on one picture at a time to not fry your computer.
All the ideas of integrating it within online spaces is so people with weaker computers ca use it, or just to use it more easily.
i think you can do that yes
I knew this would happened. AI can't read the copyright or plagiarism when using for creativity. It happened with a college student who used Grammarly to proofread her outline of her writing. The day after she submitted her work, the school called her suspension for cheating in her essay. She was upset and shocked that it happened as Grammarly had an AI and could not tell the difference between the copyright laws and creativity
One of things I will never understand is that why people cheat to win with using AI art for art competitions, recently people use AI art for pokemon art competitions, theres me worrying about the copyright law whatever I should do fan art or not.
The AI art makes me question the copyright law in detail, is copyright law is protecting artists and normal working class people? Or copyright law protects rich people and companies who manipulate people?
I uninstalled Adobe products to get avoid being spied on, Adobe tricked artists inside the terms and conditions which translates to we are spying on you in private files mode and we steal your art without consent. I could not share my human art on Instagram now because I know that metaverse steals art, nowadays i post writing alot on social media and repeat written content.
I think its time we need more privacy and physical buildings that gives art community a physical place to go to instead of social media uses
Thoughtful advice in this transitional time. Thx. Makes sense
Unfortunately this was the week I was supposed to work on my instagram page so I could get some traffic for my art on etsy. It's like standing on a dock watching the ship that I missed, was it in fact the Titanic? Should I jump on the Cara steamboat? Decisions, decisions. Thanks for the information it's hard to find out what is actually going on regarding these issues.
I hope you find your actual artists dreams, and draw to starve your distractions, draw the path, be happy with your art and find your good path. Care about you, and get started. Good luck
"I'm not leaving Instagram because I have a following there" is an incredibly dangerous concept, and exactly what Meta is counting on. This proves they can literally do ANYTHING (including openly stealing our art) and get away with it.
(I get it, I really do. And this isn't meant to be criticism at all. It's just ... frightening. Meta is winning, because they have become this toxic boyfriend beating you to a pulp once a week, but whom you can't leave for fear of being alone.)
What I would like to know, though: what's a following on Instagram worth these days, anyway? I mean, I used Instagram for art related stuff only, but over the past couple of months, artsy posts have completely vanished from my timeline. All I get now are memes and reels. Not even images from my closest contacts are showing anymore, unless I directly go to their profile.
Yes, and that really is what these companies are betting on is that approach, and yes, I realize by us staying on there just contributes to that.
I don’t like it at all! In my mind, things are happening so quickly, and we really don’t know where we’re gonna be in even a month. So I am doing more of a wait-and-see. -Prof Lieu
@@artprof Aye, these are fairly trying times for the community.
And again, not meant as criticism, after all I myself also took a waiting stance for quite a while before finally ditching Instagram - and I don't even have any financial stakes in this.
Actually, rather thanks for talking about this in a calm and rational way!
Just joined Cara. I'd say give it some time to get used to since it's now hitting the scene in recent weeks. Though, being the stranglehold of widespread social media that is Meta (Instagram/Facebook) it's gonna be an uphill battle. As cool as the images created by AI may seems, the practices they're going about with could potentially backfire. It's no secret to why Meta chooses to train AI into scraping all existing images and then claim is as their own. It's no different to many would point out as plagiarism. Instagram is the biggest juggernaut of social media. But I'd say give it some time for Cara to flourish.
That being said, with them coming out of the woodwork telling you that they've trained AI to make artworks only now should tell you everything you need to know.
Kinda scary, really.
It just feels like the tech world is taking a shot at the creative community right now. Adobe, Meta and all the AI engines. With 4 of the 5 top companies in the world investing in AI there is an inevitability about this. I'm not against AI being used in an ethical way, there are some artists using it in ways the button pushers, casual users will never match. Getting to an ethical use is the challenge as well as having people be honest about their usage. I'm a traditional artist and hate how the AI debate is turning creative communities against each other. Artists are a robust bunch I have little doubt we will get through this and continue to thrive. Let's not loose sight of the fact that all digital art is still a fledgling industry that has only really been around 50 years, it will continue to adapt and grow. Where us traditional artist can count in the thousands of years and yes we are still adapting too..
Thank you for this, I have built a playlist, intel info swell, your video is one of my favs, so here we all go in all arts.
Thank You for this important update concerning meta unv. & ai. I'm going to play it safe & delete all my photo's & videos for now . I will relpace my images with images that have the glaze protection.
This sucks I finally woke up the courage to make my own comic. And I post my character up. I’m not a big name, of course, and I’m not gonna lie I’m scared
but you still have to fight through it to make my dreams come true.
I aint never gonna stop drawing people out there are willing to pay more if something is crafted with dedication and love ❤️
In many ways, artists need to take the blame for the sorry state of intellectual property rights. Nearly 9 years ago, I posted on all major platoforms that this day was coming. I was roundly shut down, even banned on some forums. The reaction was most swift among photographers and photography sites, including IG. It was very disheartening.
I was alerted to this harvesting during a court case. That's when I realized others need to be alerted. I even made presentations at academic conferences, but to mostly clueless audiences. Most were just interested in how to get more hits and more subscribes and more likes. None understood the stakes.
It's hard for me to imagine artists with no imagination. Good luck to you.
As a concept artist having been driven out of the industry by AI, the future belongs to indie artists. You can choose to scale with AI, or revert to traditional. The worst thing you can do, however, is to hide from it. The more you learn about it, the more you can help yourself and others.
The reason why it takes a while to post on Cara is because of Glaze. Glaze can take hours to process an artwork with minimal artefacts and anomalies so that it is still visually appealing. If you ever use the software yourself locally, you are essentially trying to balance image quality with an effective amount of pixel corruption. Unfortunately, this means the more you corrupt the pixels of an image, the worse your image will look. I do not know the specifics but I imagine Cara is set to do this automatically in which it likely has to make several passes to maintain the balance. Using... an AI-based algorithm. Though not in the same sense of machine learning that is being used to train image generation engines.
I'm not against AI in itself. AI has a lot of good applications that can further our understanding of the world. In my own field, AI is being used to monitor wildlife for conservation purposes! However, it is generative AI and how it is built off stolen art and then being touted as a way to replace the very people who created the art it is trained on that is the issue. I'm all for ethical uses of AI, especially as a way to protect rights of humans in a world where we're seen as just another number on a spreadsheet.
@@ennuiwolf I agree.
I believe it is not automatic. Yo need to opt for it, but I understood you can do it a number of times per day (otherwise it'd kill the servers, so they had to put that limitation).
GDPR honestly is a law with endless positive dividends love living in Europe❤
Personally I think animated films will lack the spirit that traditional ones have. Feel like they will suck. There was also a writers strike . What writer will want to participate in the creation of a.i films. Part of the writers strike was to prevent the use of a.i for writing scripts . Also a.i can’t do glass blowing, they can’t throw clay on a pottery wheel or make a sculpture from wood or metal. A.i can’t produce oil and acrylic paintings . What such artists truly want is for people to buy ones real world originals . Print reproductions are a reflection of the original. I think it’s important for artists to share the process of the development of one’s work on instagram and to post a lot of video showing their hand in the creation of their pieces. I’m wondering if glaze will be a Wordpress plug in for artists websites. I’ll check to see if it is. Good concept. A.i art at the moment isn’t that great. I tested firefly and while the results are cool there is something artificial about it. I think the best thing to use it for is concept work to help develop real world paint to canvas paintings.
Sadly, no, Cara doesn't glaze automatically, you have to use the cara glaze page which is currently disabled, following an attack right before the Insta migration.
But, when the Cara Glaze page will work again, you will be able to post directly from the glazing page, or just glaze without having to post. It's not quick, but you get an email when your picture is ready !
Ai is doing this with peoples faces and bodies also… to create ai influencers. Becareful ❤ I’m glad my photos are offline because multiple things were made of me against my permission.
I'm sorry to hear likenesses of you or your work were used without your permission, that's awful! -Lauryn, Art Prof Teaching Artist
@@artprof thank you 🙏🏻 for your response and also for teaching us these helpful tools to continue protecting artists. You bring a lot to the community even if it’s people wanting to protect photos of their family all is good to know. What we post goes out to what feels like an uncontrolled abyss but you’re helping us navigate that and teach us ways to protect our work. That is beyond helpful! Thank you! 😊
I didn't realize glazed was auto applied. I'm more glad to not see ai junk shoved in my face like it's the best thing ever...
It is not automatic. And if they will be able to keep that service up, is something I am not sure about, if the site keeps growing at this fast pace. But you can always apply Glaze, or Nightshade, or both, locally, by downloading both free apps in your computer.
You are looking beautiful. Thank you for doing this video. This issue has been weighing heavily on my mind.
Nightshade may have potential... if literally everyone putting pictures on the web uses it, not just artists. Even then GenAI can just got back to previous versions of the dataset if new versions are poisoned.
Glaze always felt like a cope to me. The psychological profile of the common user of GenAI won't care for the difference you have shown on the John Tenniel.
We need to start thinking bigger than "style" and such things. Copyright won't save us. We need legit enforcement for identifiable metadata and a supply for our demand of a way to filter out what's real and not in a post-AI web. The old net may soon be locked behind due to geopolitical damage. This is way bigger than art.
AI art is soulless, despite how hyperrealistic it can get. Art needs imagination to move forward, something that AI can't replicate. That said, artists will need to evolve and adapt in different ways. Traditional art jobs are just not feasible anymore.
Regarding the slow "update" after posting to Cara: This might be due to Glaze, as this needs additional processing time (and it most likely uses kind of a FIFO pipeline for processing). Just a thought. Overall Cara sounds interesting, I'll give it a try (since I'm only an amateur photographer, I did delete all my posts on Instagram; I might go back when they offer an easy option to opt out, since the form they require here in Germany is complete bullshit, as they require us to state why we think our work is worth protecting - WTF do they think how copyright works???). What I find so interesting about Cara is this idea of having a timeline and a portfolio built from those timeline posts. Glaze I only see as a nice bonus feature.
While understandable Artists are reacting to this is w/e way. They need to know 10 other open source and closed source image gen models already got all the images from instagram a long time ago... meta is just one of them. open Ai Dalle, mid journey, S-diffusion. Your work is gonna/already get scanned by A.I no matter where it is. Cara is just a platform that for now authenticates the work you show, it doesn't stop any A.I. from using your work and incorporate it in training.
Yes... but it makes (Glaze, web glaze in cara, Nightshade, etc) it harder for some actors. Even that tiny bit is worth it. A big point of using Cara is that the owners have explicitly said they are against AI (unlike any other portfolio or mainstream site), and cure the website constantly to ban AI generated images. A (more or less) clean site has value on its own. Whether more or less successfully doing all this, is besides the point when you consider it from an ethical point of view. Meaning, a bunch of us join just for principles, same as many deleted their high end profiles from Art Station (and now from Instagram) long ago.
Thank you Clara...I have a small IG following of 238...so, there's that. I may check out CARA, not sure. When I post my art again on IG, I think I'll just make sure I have as big a watermark as possible. I also have a website that I'll be doing a lot more with....selling & promoting, reviewing, commentary. I often feel overwhelmed with all the complications of what we all may be dealing with in world of AI. And then all the bad actors out there working hard to steal whatever they can.
A visible watermark won’t help. You need to Glaze or Nightshade your images to protect them. You can use those programs independent from Cara.
Thanks for your take.
Thank you for this. I was not aware Cara even existed. I am glad there is a refuge for our art. Is there a refuge for writers, too?
Not that I'm aware of yet, but we will keep you posted! -Lauryn, Art Prof Teaching Artist
Good video. I'm an older, retired person who is just getting back to fine art (traditional) after 40-plus years as a corporate graphic designer. I just started posting a few pieces on Instagram and have signed up with Cara. Here's a basic question for posting on any electronic media site: Is it worth it to add a watermark on the image before posting? Thanks.
You can post with a watermark, but sometimes it's more distracting than it's worth. Even with a watermark your art can circulate in ways you don't want it to. - Mia, Art Prof Staff
I love this, news for artists! 😃
We need patience, and for the moment defend us as best as we can. But this theft will be stopped. I mean, nobody with a minimum of knowledge of US law can honestly argue that the use of copyrighted art to train AI is fair use. AI creates a competing product, and that has never been declared fair use: it doesn't make sense, because copyright is here to protect and value our work.
You could use AI to create a piece of art and then correcting it to make it more accurate and enjoyable, that would be both educational and engaging. A video like this could really highlight how important the human touch is in true art. It would be interesting to see the experimentation process, pointing out stereotypes, errors, and details that don't quite work. This kind of content could bring more attention and awareness to the role of human creativity in art. LLMs are just a statistical tool, not that impresive once you have seen their limits, they are just a helpful gimmick. By the way older generations seems to be totally unaware and unwilling to explore LLMs so they are easily fooled by them.
Thanks for posting this 🙏🏼
I joined Cara, and I am wondering about the Glaze part because there is a note on there saying Glaze is disabled due to an abuse incident. Are our images stil automatically Glazed when we upload?
Thank you for your videos, very helpful!
I’m not sure, I’ve heard many conflicting things about this. I’ll have to look deeper into it to provide an accurate answer. -Prof Lieu
@@artprof Thank you for reply :)
I’ll just stick with ArtStation, Adobe Portfolio, and Behance.
I’m too lazy to make any more socials .
Instagram was like a highschool phase.
Unfortunately Adobe is in deep shit with their own AI policies right now
The only diffrence between your art and AI art is you can copywrite your art. Ai art is copywrite free so anybody can use it regardless who prompted ai to create it.
So it learns by looking at everyones art. Artists have learned from other artists. Businesses always look for ways to reduce costs. Eventually even business will be replaced by AI. The writing is on the wall.
This is cool. can't wait to try
So am I correct in understanding that Meta will only use AI training on public posts ? So anything that is not public will not be used in their AI training ? (According to them) Is that correct?
Supposedly yes, that is what they are currently saying, that they can't or won't use things posted to private accounts. But they also say stuff like shadow banning isn't real, so I guess how much you want to trust what Meta says is up to you. 🤷♀️ -Lauryn, Art Prof Teaching Artist
I appreciate the overview of what is going on with these platforms. Quick question. It seems that Cara is limited to those who are using some sort of painting medium on board or canvas. True or not.
It is not limited in any way, as far as I know. I've heard there are both digital and traditional artists hosted there.
i downloaded everything and deleted all of my art from my instagram. Not sure if i will keep use Meta's products ever again. IF i am putting up anything onto instagram or facebook (husband uses FB and sometimes uses some of my art) or anywhere else it will be nightshaded and/or glazed firsthand. (I am in EU and have opted out but i really do not believe Meta or any "AI - vacuume) will respect my opt out.)
I am gonna start to use Cara instead, i am hoping it will become a good app for us artists. They are doing babysteps right now and im very aware of that and it is ok.
Thank you so much for the update... Question: Im from Europe and I never saw an opt out option anywhere... Where was it you said people in Europe can opt out? Im building webpages and intent to write an article about this subject for the Danish audience, so I would like to find more valid information about this.
We can't verify personally since we're all in the US, but it sounds like it should be in your Privacy and Security settings of your IG/Facebook account. There's an AI section and then a place where you have the "right to object". Good luck! -Lauryn, Art Prof Teaching Artist
@@artprof It sounds like another example of a Dark Pattern.... Thanks G!
Very interesting video.
Can they still use our images if we delete the account?
I understanding from what I’ve read is that the images have already been scraped. They didn’t ask anybody for permission before they did it. That’s the part that is so infuriating for people!! -Prof Lieu
You need to know that there is a total way of replicating every single one of the artists watching this in words and other ways, without any use of a scan or photo.
My fear is that cara's not gonna be able to handle the influx of people and have the funds to maintain it. I mean look at some streaming/social media platforms that were all the buzz and then had to shut their doors because it just became too expensive to run a social media platform. i.e. Mixer was a competitor to Twitch and they closed down after a year. After the dust settles, I wonder if Cara will actually last or will become just another obsolete social media platform that no one will venture to again.
There's nothing to do but let time run its course with it. -Lauryn, Art Prof Teaching Artist
Meta has been screwed for years …it really can’t get any worse for me.. at least I don’t want to be around to see that ..they had a bloody minded attitude to artists and photographers right from the start ,right from the takeover ..I’m glad I didn’t work at Insta in those days ..it would have been pretty awful for many …Meta are like Meta Facists ..it honestly scares me the way they disassemble social connections in such a dedicated way ?
IG was great until it wasn’t anymore. I feel Cara would be the same. Started off with a good intention but the pressure to upkeep and it takes money and they’ll have to put ads in. Nothing is ever free. With AI art rampant all over, I’m just not going to post anymore.
Just look at what ao3 did, I believe it is possible
That first dog without the glaze still looked nothing like Tenniel 😅😅
(but I got the point 🙃)
Ai generated imagery has destroyed more than big name artists, anyone trying to run a pod sticker or art shop cannot complete with the output from a prompt writer. Human art has been drowned out.
I’m currently without WiFi and Cara isn’t letting me upload anything from my cell phone with data.
When Cara becomes popular or got buy out, what's gonna stops them from using our art for Ai as well? Jump ships again?
What is the glaze?
It is something that will change the
Way the image is viewed by computer minds
My plan is to move all my essential art to Cara, then delete my IG wall and all my uploads, upload black squares in protest and keep my IG account to keep my followers. Then when I have a new post on Cara I'll simply post a link to the post in an IG story.
Ma'am, do not be alarmed, but there is a skeleton behind you!
Sadly glaze is not working anymore in Cara.
Do you honestly think that Meta can't scrape a private Instagram account?
I’m not sure there’s a difference in the sense of copying style. We do it as actual artists. Prompting just takes the skill away is the difference. The truth is that the only way to not have our art stolen or for others to be inspired by it and incorporate into their practice (speaking on real artists not prompters but also to avoid ai scraping) is to never share or sell your art which then means your art isn’t alive. It’s the trade off. Either be hidden and the art doesn’t live, or it lives and is at risk of inspiring someone or being scrapped by ai. I’m probably not gonna post on instagram anymore or join Cara. My photos and art for me only. I’ll let my stuff not live.
Hopefully Cara will take off. Anyone remember Ello? It didn't last.
What's Ello? -Lauryn, Art Prof Teaching Artist
@@artprof en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ello_(social_network)
Pretty sure the reason images dont show up in your portfolio immediately on Cara is because they Glaze it first. While my existing artwork on Instagram is already scraped, I would never had uploaded anything if I had known. I will continue to stay there for the time being, but never post anything there unless it is glazed first. For video content Im not sure what is the best advice at the moment. This seems very dynamic and changing right now. I hope profit and power driven Meta (and Adobe) goes bankrupt and is replaced by ethically driven companies