I think you're right about there being a difference, and I think your definitions are correct as far as how the genres have developed and are received by the larger reader population. Primarily because, of what I've read, those that are more typically described as "romantasy" do tend to fall apart without the romantic plots, while the "fantasy romance" can survive without them, while feeling like something is missing. But I think that's backwards. In my opinion, the first component is the modifier, much like other subgenres (historical fiction, paranormal romance, dark fantasy, etc.). So the "romance" in "romantasy" is saying "this is a fantasy-forward book with strong romantic elements." Whereas "fantasy romance" should be saying "this is a romance-forward book with strong fantasy elements." That is not, however, what most of the corners of the readerverses seem to adhere to. I begrudgingly accept the classifications for how they are largely applied, however, even if I think they would've been more accurate the other way around. 😂
Would you do an explanation and recommendations for fantasy action VS fantasy adventure? I honestly just loved your recommendations so much, so I would love to see what else you would recommend :)
@@allisonolah8782 oh my gosh, thank you so much. That’s so nice of you to say!! This was a super fun video to make. I hope to make more similar to this in the future!!
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I appreciate the distinction between the two, but there are more sub genre’s than just the two. There’s historical fantasy, urban fantasy, and paranormal romance to name a few. For example, “Bride” is actually paranormal romance. If you are as obsessed with vampires as I am, there is a whole backlist of older series that stand the test of time. One of my favorites is the Night Huntress series by Jeaniene Frost. Such a good series.
@@bheartsbooks right of course! The fantasy genre has so many types! And thank you for the vampire recommendation!! I’m always looking for new ones!! ❤️☺️
I do love how you explained it and you gave so many good recommendations! I agree that there needs to be a distinction because people harping on SJM not being good at politics and fantasy elements only having read ACOTAR is doing my head in 😂 people really need to give TOG a chance, it’s an epic fantasy all the way through, even if the magic system and politics aren’t the most unique, it’s still a very well written YA fantasy series.
I've watched Vampire Diaries and never expected to like a show that seemed so teen focused. The writing was good and the best part was the vampires. Now I've recently played Baldur's Gate 3 which has a vampire who is done very well and now I'm obsessed with vampires again. I'll have to give The Serpent and the Wings of Night a try. I've never read romance books before but I've read fantasy. I am wary about cringe but maybe it's just something I have to get over... or maybe a lot of romance books are cringe except for the good ones?
The trick is to find the good ones! You especially I don’t think would like Romantasy, but a Fantasy Romance would be SO up your alley! Another one that I think you’d enjoy which is super intense is “Empire of the Vampire” by Jay Kristoff, seriously excellent! And as for cringe, I’d say when it’s well written it’s never cringe 😏😉 Give serpents and the wings of night a chance I think you’ll love it!
Guys can someone help?? I want to read some fantasy/romantic books but so far every recommendation I got were so childish. I want some good written plots and deep characters. I mean the plot doesn't even have to be so complicated I just want to enjoy it while reading it. For example Shatter Me was so overhyped on social media so I read it but it was sooooo CHILDISH. Also so many ppl liked Throne of Glass and I gave it a try but it was boring. Like how am I supposed to find good books?? Please, any recs?
im glad that im learning this ....okay so romantasy are books that has heavy romance in it and fantasy romance is more fantasy and few romance, is more of a plot? if thats correct then romantasy is for me cuz im into dark romance lol with a good plot but i like it to run heavy on romance more lol any recommendations?
@@SeNiia honestly you might love one I just recently read which is Quicksilver!!! I was obsessed with it!!! I feel like it’s a Romantasy but it does lean a little more towards the fantasy plot! BUT…it’s so angsty and dark and romantic ugh 🤤🤤🤤 I ate it up!!!!!
@@LivinLiterature oh yes! i ordered that book yesterday from amazon hahaha yeah theres a lot of good reviews on that book i heard the guy is morelly grey like dark lol and i love that since i love crazy dark romance hahaha
I think I disagree. IMO Romantasy is equal parts romance and fantasy (they need to fit the reader expectation of both). Fantasy Romance (ie. Paranormal Romance) is a romance with fantasy elements. Romantic Fantasy is a fantasy with romantic elements. “Romantic” and “Fantasy”/”Paranormal” are treated as adjectives. Then “Romance” and “Fantasy” are nouns. Romantasy is a noun, so it is a genre mashup. It's about reader expectations. If you tell me it is a Fantasy Romance and it’s mostly fantasy, I will be pissed.
I definitely prefer romantasy. Sometimes, i just don't care about "world building" and all that. Im all about love and romance. A court of mist and fury is perfection.
No…I reject this, this is evil…now you’re telling me, Fantasy Romance, Romantic Fantasy, AND Romantasy, are all three distinct things???? Who decided this? Nobody got this memo.
This is getting like the different genres of metal... sometimes you can categorize things so specifically that it begins to lose all meaning, and a lot of it is subjective. I'm not sure I would've classified Divine Rivals as Romantasy myself - in my opinion, it's more delving into the impact of war on non-combatants (PTSD etc) and family than romance. Sure, the romance is important to the plot, but it felt to me more as a secondary arc.
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I knew there was a difference but I couldn’t tell which was which, your explanation makes perfect sense
🥹🥹 thanks! I’m so glad you liked my explanation!!
I think you're right about there being a difference, and I think your definitions are correct as far as how the genres have developed and are received by the larger reader population. Primarily because, of what I've read, those that are more typically described as "romantasy" do tend to fall apart without the romantic plots, while the "fantasy romance" can survive without them, while feeling like something is missing.
But I think that's backwards.
In my opinion, the first component is the modifier, much like other subgenres (historical fiction, paranormal romance, dark fantasy, etc.). So the "romance" in "romantasy" is saying "this is a fantasy-forward book with strong romantic elements." Whereas "fantasy romance" should be saying "this is a romance-forward book with strong fantasy elements." That is not, however, what most of the corners of the readerverses seem to adhere to.
I begrudgingly accept the classifications for how they are largely applied, however, even if I think they would've been more accurate the other way around. 😂
@@Kringlebert No notes, that was brilliantly said! Period.
Would you do an explanation and recommendations for fantasy action VS fantasy adventure? I honestly just loved your recommendations so much, so I would love to see what else you would recommend :)
Absolutely I’d be happy to!!! I’m so glad you enjoyed my explanation of this video!
Thank you for this!! I’d love to see some spicy romantasy book recs if you’re into those kinda books 💗💗
@@MorganMacLean02 oh I’m definitely into those kinds of books 🤭😉😏
You have the most amazing energy! I really loved this video. It was funny and I really enjoyed how you explained everything.
@@allisonolah8782 oh my gosh, thank you so much. That’s so nice of you to say!! This was a super fun video to make. I hope to make more similar to this in the future!!
@@LivinLiterature you are so welcome!! ❤️
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@@LilaLovesBooks123 haha so glad you liked them! And welcome!! Today’s video that I’m uploading has a giveaway link to win some books!! So feel free to enter! 😉😉❤️
I appreciate the distinction between the two, but there are more sub genre’s than just the two. There’s historical fantasy, urban fantasy, and paranormal romance to name a few. For example, “Bride” is actually paranormal romance.
If you are as obsessed with vampires as I am, there is a whole backlist of older series that stand the test of time. One of my favorites is the Night Huntress series by Jeaniene Frost. Such a good series.
@@bheartsbooks right of course! The fantasy genre has so many types! And thank you for the vampire recommendation!! I’m always looking for new ones!! ❤️☺️
Nobody ever talks about Night Huntress... I was so obsessed with that series, it was a beautifully written romance... ❤
@@BhanuChandrasekaran I’ve never heard of it! I’ll have to go check it out!
Love ya. Thanks for all the info. This is so timely & needed.
Thank you I thought so too!! So glad to meet someone who appreciates it understands this content 😉❤️
I do love how you explained it and you gave so many good recommendations! I agree that there needs to be a distinction because people harping on SJM not being good at politics and fantasy elements only having read ACOTAR is doing my head in 😂 people really need to give TOG a chance, it’s an epic fantasy all the way through, even if the magic system and politics aren’t the most unique, it’s still a very well written YA fantasy series.
I completely agree TOG is completely underrated!! And more people need to read it!❤️ and thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video!
I enjoyed TOG FAR more than ACOTAR (I've not yet made it past book one in that one and read all of TOG including the novellas).
I've watched Vampire Diaries and never expected to like a show that seemed so teen focused. The writing was good and the best part was the vampires. Now I've recently played Baldur's Gate 3 which has a vampire who is done very well and now I'm obsessed with vampires again. I'll have to give The Serpent and the Wings of Night a try. I've never read romance books before but I've read fantasy. I am wary about cringe but maybe it's just something I have to get over... or maybe a lot of romance books are cringe except for the good ones?
The trick is to find the good ones! You especially I don’t think would like Romantasy, but a Fantasy Romance would be SO up your alley! Another one that I think you’d enjoy which is super intense is “Empire of the Vampire” by Jay Kristoff, seriously excellent! And as for cringe, I’d say when it’s well written it’s never cringe 😏😉 Give serpents and the wings of night a chance I think you’ll love it!
I love the gravity falls drop also this really help me understand Roman tasty in a new way
Awww thanks!! Glad you enjoyed it! Freaking love, gravity Falls!
these are headed straight to my tbr
Yay I’m so excited!!!
You need a podcast! 😊
You’re too kind! I’d love that 😉☺️
Just finished the serpent last night gurlllllll omg I’m hooked I’m on my way to the second one
@@tawan.nuttikan GET IT GIRL!!!! That’s what I’m talking about!❤️
Guys can someone help?? I want to read some fantasy/romantic books but so far every recommendation I got were so childish. I want some good written plots and deep characters. I mean the plot doesn't even have to be so complicated I just want to enjoy it while reading it.
For example Shatter Me was so overhyped on social media so I read it but it was sooooo CHILDISH. Also so many ppl liked Throne of Glass and I gave it a try but it was boring. Like how am I supposed to find good books?? Please, any recs?
im glad that im learning this ....okay so romantasy are books that has heavy romance in it and fantasy romance is more fantasy and few romance, is more of a plot? if thats correct then romantasy is for me cuz im into dark romance lol with a good plot but i like it to run heavy on romance more lol any recommendations?
@@SeNiia honestly you might love one I just recently read which is Quicksilver!!! I was obsessed with it!!! I feel like it’s a Romantasy but it does lean a little more towards the fantasy plot! BUT…it’s so angsty and dark and romantic ugh 🤤🤤🤤 I ate it up!!!!!
@@LivinLiterature oh yes! i ordered that book yesterday from amazon hahaha yeah theres a lot of good reviews on that book i heard the guy is morelly grey like dark lol and i love that since i love crazy dark romance hahaha
@@SeNiia HE SLAYYYSSS!! So dark and angsty 🤤
@@LivinLiterature haha 😆 I will let u know how it goes 👍🏼👍🏼
@@SeNiia have fun with my mans 🤤🥰
New subscriber here! Great video :)
@@brightbeacon thank you so much!!! That’s so sweet of you to say!!!
I agree with you
@@Sai0912 thank you!!!!😊
What's with the thumbnail?
@@bonnieblue-blade7376 just my way of showing the difference between the two sub-genres ☺️
I think I disagree. IMO Romantasy is equal parts romance and fantasy (they need to fit the reader expectation of both). Fantasy Romance (ie. Paranormal Romance) is a romance with fantasy elements. Romantic Fantasy is a fantasy with romantic elements. “Romantic” and “Fantasy”/”Paranormal” are treated as adjectives. Then “Romance” and “Fantasy” are nouns. Romantasy is a noun, so it is a genre mashup. It's about reader expectations. If you tell me it is a Fantasy Romance and it’s mostly fantasy, I will be pissed.
I definitely prefer romantasy. Sometimes, i just don't care about "world building" and all that. Im all about love and romance. A court of mist and fury is perfection.
@@luvlost03 love that take girl!! ❤️❤️❤️ and yes ACOMAF IS PERFECTION!!!!
No…I reject this, this is evil…now you’re telling me, Fantasy Romance, Romantic Fantasy, AND Romantasy, are all three distinct things???? Who decided this? Nobody got this memo.
This is getting like the different genres of metal... sometimes you can categorize things so specifically that it begins to lose all meaning, and a lot of it is subjective. I'm not sure I would've classified Divine Rivals as Romantasy myself - in my opinion, it's more delving into the impact of war on non-combatants (PTSD etc) and family than romance. Sure, the romance is important to the plot, but it felt to me more as a secondary arc.