While watching season 7 I didn't know what people saw in them but now looking back I really like the idea of Henry falling for someone whose originally a villain with baggage instead of just ripping off his grandparents love story. It's also really nice to see someone cynical like Ivy/Drizella contrasts with Henry who has the heart of the truest believer.
F*ck the writers for not letting Henry go trick-or-treating with Jacinda and Lucy at the end of Beauty.Earlier in the episode, Roni talked to Henry about moving forward and letting himself love again. I'm not saying Henry should have gotten down on one knee and confess his undying love to Jacinda, but spending a couple hours together, trick-or-treating with Lucy, would be a good step forward. It would have shown Henry making progress towards being happy again. Instead, the writers made Henry have drinks with Ivy/Drizella. They really had to throw that racist ship a bone, uh?
Some random ass H*nvy shipper, comes on to my post thread about Cinderella's fairy godmother being the villain and is "still ship Henry and Ivy tbh"Bitch, what does that trash gotta do with the fairy godmother being the villain? And did you not read my url? What made you think that saying saying anything regarding H*nvy on my post by someone named queenofglassbeliever, would be a good idea?
Not necessarily an OTP because it’s rare, but Henry & Drizella. Built on rape and racism. I don’t get the appeal of Zelena & Hades either or Regina & Graham either.
Anyone who says or thinks that the S/tep Believer kiss was "soft" or "sweet" or that they're "happy they had least got that one little kiss", disgusts me.There was nothing cute about that kiss. It was Drizella using Henry's sympathy and friendship to gain some sort of resemblance of power and control in her time of grief. It was a non-consensual kiss, done under false pretenses. There's nothing cute or sweet about assault, you filth.
@@superman1208Extreme Ivy/Drizella supporters and H*nvy shippers ruined Drizella for me. They completely ignore all the evil she's done simply because she's pretty. Drizella abused Ella and killed Prince Gregor well before Gothel started manipulating her. She wasn't an innocent person pre-Gothel, but because she's a pretty white girl her crimes get a free pass.
Remember when Drizella took advantage of Cursed! Henry by kissing him? And she was clearly wanted to take it further even though she knew that Henry would never consent to sleep with her, but she was still willing to use him for her own selfish reasons and to hurt Ella and Lucy.
i sometimes get upset over the scenes (including deleted) that imply driz has a thing for henry because it’s just not...true to me. i don’t think she has romantic feelings towards him or even pretending to just to mess with ella. no offence to lucy cause i love that kid but just because she thinks it doesn’t make it true.
i’ve said this before but i think she was more attracted platonically to his cursed self for being actually friendly towards her even if it was fake. like when she kissed him for example, that was out of grief because her mother just died and he was the only one showing her actual companionship instead of just flat out dislike.
There was nothing cute about that kiss. It was Drizella using Henry's sympathy and friendship to gain some sort of resemblance of power and control in her time of grief. It was a non-consensual kiss, done under false pretenses. There's nothing cute or sweet about assault, you filth.
I'm anti CS. I don't try it. But I have respect for the fandom because I've had the pleasure of meeting good CS shippers. And I mean genuinely good CS shippers. The kind who recognize and acknowledge how their ship might be problematic or understand why someone may not ship them.
@@boomingbob1579Ella went through the same childhood tragedies that Drizella did. Cecelia abandoning them, Ana's death, Marcus' death, being abused by Tremaine.Ella was also abused by Drizella and forced to be a servant.Yet, Ella didn't turn into an evil bitch.
@@kayleighwilson1551 H*nvy: uncursed ivy. Henry is cursed. Ivy knows Henry would never want to be with her. Kissing him without any consent from him. Glass Believer: Both are cursed. Henry wants to kiss Jacinda and she knows, but still asks for verbal consent. Not kissing Henry until he gives her his consent. This is why Glass Believer is better than H*nvy.
@@boomingbob1579 Drizella to Henry: We've both lost people we care about. Me: Bitch, Henry lost the people he cares about because you took them away from him!
I actually didn t like Jacinda but Ivy was the Evil one in season 7. But it actually is so greattt. I MEAN they both have stories in their past and not easy ones and for him to fall in love with someone not "100 per cent good" is something new. If jacinda wasn t Lucy s mom I would have loved to see him and Ivy(her aunt) together
Remember when Drizella took advantage of Cursed! Henry by kissing him? And she was clearly wanted to take it further even though she knew that Henry would never consent to sleep with her, but she was still willing to use him for her own selfish reasons and to hurt Ella and Lucy. Apparently that's what H*nvy shippers call "chemistry" 🙄🙄😒😒
@@superman1208Lucy basically told Drizella that she wasn't, isn't, and would never be good enough for Henry. Henry repeatedly said that he did not view Drizella/Ivy in a romantic way. Regina/Roni told Henry was too good for Drizella/Ivy. Even Adelaide Kane said that she doesn't ship H*nvy
I think the biggest reason why Glass Believer didn't catch on with the majority of the fandom is because of how the show writers treated their story. In the first few episodes, Henry's and Ella's love story, but that was it. The writers set up the foundation, but they didn't build off of it. They could have turned Glass Believer into a beautiful, meaningful, and deeply emotional relationship. One about healing and finding love after being a servant in an abusive home and loving yourself and knowing that being yourself is more than enough for the right person, but no. Instead, the writers sidelined Ella and Henry. Then they had the audacity to insinuate a romance between Henry and Drizella and insult Henry's character by suggesting that he would ever have an affair. Cursed or not.
@@moriel58My main problem with Glass Believer was how they were written, too. I liked Step Believer by comparison bc they at least had the trope of Ivy being evil/seeking redemption towards the end while Henry saw the good in her whereas Glass Believer was deep for, like, 3 episodes and felt like high school crush status for the rest of it. Everyone telling Henry or Jacinda that they were meant to be together while the reasons that they weren’t weren’t emphasized enough to matter and their story in the Enchanted Forest was kinda glossed over. Ella’s backstory and how it affected her was pretty much told to us by her in the Wonderland episode when it should’ve been shown like it was with Drizella. She was treated like a side character in her own story.
@@oncergirl6600 Drizella never actually had real feelings for Henry. If anything it was an infatuation. Not with the man, but with the relationship and love he shares with Ella. Drizella doesn’t want Henry. She wants what Henry and Ella have. The best scenario I can compare it to is what happened between Anastasia, the Prince, and Cinderella in Cinderella III: A Twist in Time. Anastasia starts of believing that she wants the Prince for herself. That if the Prince loved her she’d be happy and uses magic to get it. Well, technically, Lady Tremaine used magic, but the details aren’t important right now. As the movie goes on, Anastasia learns the true meaning of true love and that you can’t make somebody love you. By the end, she’s learned that what the Prince and Cinderella share is stronger than anything and that she won’t be happy by taking away someone else’s happiness. Anastasia learns that what she really wanted all along was someone to love her the way the Prince loved Cinderella. She wanted a relationship and love like Cinderella’s and the Prince’s, but she wanted one of her own. H*nvy was built on racism. Bitch-ass "fans" made horrible, disgusting edits, copying and pasting Drizella/Ivy head over Ella/Jacinda's. That's whitewashing. It's erasing a woman of color and it's wrong. It's also built on rape. Had Ivy/Drizella been successful in seducing Henry, even if he had complied, it would have been rape. Because Ivy was not who she said she was. If the person you agree to have sex with is someone other than you think he or she is, your compliance does not count as consenting. A ship built on rape and racism. That's what people call chemistry? Disgusting. All H*nvy shippers, supporters and sympathizers are trash.
Nah. Just no bro. Charming and Regina is....weird, they don't get the Chemistry. I prefer Robin for Reg❤ But Henry and Ivy instead...OMG Chemistry overload😱 already in their first momenttt Meanwhile Henry and Ella just don't have it...sorry but they haven't got the chemistry at least not like Henry and Ivy do...
@@vpxluvSince St*p Believer 🙄🙄 is the name of the 😒😒 romantic 🙄🙄😒😒😒😒 ship between Henry & Drizella (I actually feel nauseous typing Henry, Drizella and romantic in the same sentence) I would like to come up with a name for their FRIENDSHIP.
![StepBeliever (Henry & Ivy) [OUAT] || You'll Ask For Me](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/JpVB3KxUkvI/mqdefault.jpg)
![Seungmin "그렇게, 천천히, 우리(As we are)" | [Stray Kids : SKZ-PLAYER]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/kAzmhLHePqU/mqdefault.jpg)
While watching season 7 I didn't know what people saw in them but now looking back I really like the idea of Henry falling for someone whose originally a villain with baggage instead of just ripping off his grandparents love story. It's also really nice to see someone cynical like Ivy/Drizella contrasts with Henry who has the heart of the truest believer.
Right? That’s the entire reason why I shipped them from the start.
Agree at 100%
F*ck the writers for not letting Henry go trick-or-treating with Jacinda and Lucy at the end of Beauty.Earlier in the episode, Roni talked to Henry about moving forward and letting himself love again. I'm not saying Henry should have gotten down on one knee and confess his undying love to Jacinda, but spending a couple hours together, trick-or-treating with Lucy, would be a good step forward. It would have shown Henry making progress towards being happy again. Instead, the writers made Henry have drinks with Ivy/Drizella. They really had to throw that racist ship a bone, uh?
@BeautyQueen2023Xyes agreed
Some random ass H*nvy shipper, comes on to my post thread about Cinderella's fairy godmother being the villain and is "still ship Henry and Ivy tbh"Bitch, what does that trash gotta do with the fairy godmother being the villain? And did you not read my url? What made you think that saying saying anything regarding H*nvy on my post by someone named queenofglassbeliever, would be a good idea?
I swear Henry had so much more chemistry with Ivy then he ever did with Ella and I’m so glad I’m not the only one who saw it!
Not necessarily an OTP because it’s rare, but Henry & Drizella. Built on rape and racism. I don’t get the appeal of Zelena & Hades either or Regina & Graham either.
@BeautyQueen2023Xyes
Just utter messy realistic epic love... one of once upon a times best ships EVER!!!!!!
Should of been ENDGAME
@@Sinead-nf2dm Agreed😌
Anyone who says or thinks that the S/tep Believer kiss was "soft" or "sweet" or that they're "happy they had least got that one little kiss", disgusts me.There was nothing cute about that kiss. It was Drizella using Henry's sympathy and friendship to gain some sort of resemblance of power and control in her time of grief. It was a non-consensual kiss, done under false pretenses. There's nothing cute or sweet about assault, you filth.
Drizella: It's fine. I'm done giving you a headache.
Henry : No, you still exist. So, the headache continues.
This is why people have ~chemistry~ tests cause if they did that it would have been HenryxDrizella ALL THE WAY
@moriel6890 sabban In that person’s eyes, they do. Chemistry is subjective.
@@superman1208Extreme Ivy/Drizella supporters and H*nvy shippers ruined Drizella for me. They completely ignore all the evil she's done simply because she's pretty. Drizella abused Ella and killed Prince Gregor well before Gothel started manipulating her. She wasn't an innocent person pre-Gothel, but because she's a pretty white girl her crimes get a free pass.
I’m in love with this. And Henvy.
"Ivory"...
@moriel6890 sabban I think they just mean they just like the idea of Henry x Drizella without the toxicity.
Remember when Drizella took advantage of Cursed! Henry by kissing him? And she was clearly wanted to take it further even though she knew that Henry would never consent to sleep with her, but she was still willing to use him for her own selfish reasons and to hurt Ella and Lucy.
I liked this video. I really liked when they were drinking and becoming friends. I believe Ivy wanted to be friends.
i sometimes get upset over the scenes (including deleted) that imply driz has a thing for henry because it’s just not...true to me. i don’t think she has romantic feelings towards him or even pretending to just to mess with ella. no offence to lucy cause i love that kid but just because she thinks it doesn’t make it true.
i’ve said this before but i think she was more attracted platonically to his cursed self for being actually friendly towards her even if it was fake. like when she kissed him for example, that was out of grief because her mother just died and he was the only one showing her actual companionship instead of just flat out dislike.
FINALLY! A new StepBeliever vid! Great!
This is so beautiful-I love all the parallels you showed
There was nothing cute about that kiss. It was Drizella using Henry's sympathy and friendship to gain some sort of resemblance of power and control in her time of grief. It was a non-consensual kiss, done under false pretenses. There's nothing cute or sweet about assault, you filth.
Omg LOVE this!!!! 😍😍😍😍 Hardly anyone makes any Henvy/StepBeliever edits...
I'm anti CS. I don't try it. But I have respect for the fandom because I've had the pleasure of meeting good CS shippers. And I mean genuinely good CS shippers. The kind who recognize and acknowledge how their ship might be problematic or understand why someone may not ship them.
I hated shipping this ship only because I knew they would never ever have a chance bc Henry and Jacinda had Lucy.
That was my constant mood throughout season seven.
I honestly was mad they didn’t end up
@@boomingbob1579Ella went through the same childhood tragedies that Drizella did. Cecelia abandoning them, Ana's death, Marcus' death, being abused by Tremaine.Ella was also abused by Drizella and forced to be a servant.Yet, Ella didn't turn into an evil bitch.
@@kayleighwilson1551 H*nvy: uncursed ivy. Henry is cursed. Ivy knows Henry would never want to be with her. Kissing him without any consent from him.
Glass Believer: Both are cursed. Henry wants to kiss Jacinda and she knows, but still asks for verbal consent. Not kissing Henry until he gives her his consent.
This is why Glass Believer is better than H*nvy.
@@boomingbob1579 Drizella to Henry: We've both lost people we care about.
Me: Bitch, Henry lost the people he cares about because you took them away from him!
I actually didn t like Jacinda but Ivy was the Evil one in season 7. But it actually is so greattt. I MEAN they both have stories in their past and not easy ones and for him to fall in love with someone not "100 per cent good" is something new. If jacinda wasn t Lucy s mom I would have loved to see him and Ivy(her aunt) together
@moriel6890 sabban People know Henry loves Jacinda. That person is just saying they would’ve prefer him with Ivy.
Remember when Drizella took advantage of Cursed! Henry by kissing him? And she was clearly wanted to take it further even though she knew that Henry would never consent to sleep with her, but she was still willing to use him for her own selfish reasons and to hurt Ella and Lucy. Apparently that's what H*nvy shippers call "chemistry" 🙄🙄😒😒
@@superman1208Lucy basically told Drizella that she wasn't, isn't, and would never be good enough for Henry. Henry repeatedly said that he did not view Drizella/Ivy in a romantic way. Regina/Roni told Henry was too good for Drizella/Ivy. Even Adelaide Kane said that she doesn't ship H*nvy
Why couldnt we get this instead?!
Watching season 7 they had more chemistry than who he ended up with how
It’s just much better
@moriel6890 sabban ok wot are you trying to see in the first sentence I’m a tad confused
@Star 98 én is egyetértek
@moriel6890 sabban While yes Henry wanted Jacinda. Most people didn’t see any chemistry between them.
@moriel6890 sabban I never said they did. And I never said I decide what happens. I’m just saying that’s how other people feel.
@moriel6890 sabban Where did u get that idea?
this is so beautiful! I love it ≤3
Finally' A new StepBeliever vid! Great!
What episode is 1:33 from? (The photos on the phone)
As much as I love Ivy and Henry. It would be kinda weird with Lucy. I mean I guess it wasn’t weird with Klaus, Elijah, Hayley, Hope in The Originals
Ive never watched The Originals so when I was first reading this I was like "who are these people? Did I miss a season or something?" 🤣
Josselyn Martinez 😂
Klaus was meant to be with Caroline...
@@MamtaSingh-il4lk I agree
@@MamtaSingh-il4lk Klaroline is one of the best couples ever!! 😭✋🏻
💖💖💖💖💖💖
Question: Did they write Ivy out of the show because she had better chemistry with Henry than Jacinda?
I think the biggest reason why Glass Believer didn't catch on with the majority of the fandom is because of how the show writers treated their story. In the first few episodes, Henry's and Ella's love story, but that was it. The writers set up the foundation, but they didn't build off of it. They could have turned Glass Believer into a beautiful, meaningful, and deeply emotional relationship. One about healing and finding love after being a servant in an abusive home and loving yourself and knowing that being yourself is more than enough for the right person, but no. Instead, the writers sidelined Ella and Henry. Then they had the audacity to insinuate a romance between Henry and Drizella and insult Henry's character by suggesting that he would ever have an affair. Cursed or not.
@@moriel58My main problem with Glass Believer was how they were written, too. I liked Step Believer by comparison bc they at least had the trope of Ivy being evil/seeking redemption towards the end while Henry saw the good in her whereas Glass Believer was deep for, like, 3 episodes and felt like high school crush status for the rest of it. Everyone telling Henry or Jacinda that they were meant to be together while the reasons that they weren’t weren’t emphasized enough to matter and their story in the Enchanted Forest was kinda glossed over. Ella’s backstory and how it affected her was pretty much told to us by her in the Wonderland episode when it should’ve been shown like it was with Drizella. She was treated like a side character in her own story.
@@oncergirl6600 Drizella never actually had real feelings for Henry. If anything it was an infatuation. Not with the man, but with the relationship and love he shares with Ella. Drizella doesn’t want Henry. She wants what Henry and Ella have. The best scenario I can compare it to is what happened between Anastasia, the Prince, and Cinderella in Cinderella III: A Twist in Time. Anastasia starts of believing that she wants the Prince for herself. That if the Prince loved her she’d be happy and uses magic to get it. Well, technically, Lady Tremaine used magic, but the details aren’t important right now. As the movie goes on, Anastasia learns the true meaning of true love and that you can’t make somebody love you. By the end, she’s learned that what the Prince and Cinderella share is stronger than anything and that she won’t be happy by taking away someone else’s happiness. Anastasia learns that what she really wanted all along was someone to love her the way the Prince loved Cinderella. She wanted a relationship and love like Cinderella’s and the Prince’s, but she wanted one of her own. H*nvy was built on racism. Bitch-ass "fans" made horrible, disgusting edits, copying and pasting Drizella/Ivy head over Ella/Jacinda's. That's whitewashing. It's erasing a woman of color and it's wrong. It's also built on rape. Had Ivy/Drizella been successful in seducing Henry, even if he had complied, it would have been rape. Because Ivy was not who she said she was. If the person you agree to have sex with is someone other than you think he or she is, your compliance does not count as consenting. A ship built on rape and racism. That's what people call chemistry? Disgusting. All H*nvy shippers, supporters and sympathizers are trash.
Sure they’d be fun but I’m with Mama Bear on this one lol
I’m shocked, I didn’t think people shipped them. It’s like shipping Charming and Regina. It’s a no for me.
I agree
Nah. Just no bro. Charming and Regina is....weird, they don't get the Chemistry. I prefer Robin for Reg❤
But Henry and Ivy instead...OMG Chemistry overload😱 already in their first momenttt
Meanwhile Henry and Ella just don't have it...sorry but they haven't got the chemistry at least not like Henry and Ivy do...
@@vpxluvSince St*p Believer 🙄🙄 is the name of the 😒😒 romantic 🙄🙄😒😒😒😒 ship between Henry & Drizella (I actually feel nauseous typing Henry, Drizella and romantic in the same sentence) I would like to come up with a name for their FRIENDSHIP.