I like the idea of a wood stove, but also anyone considering this should also keep in mind, the smaller the stove the more frequently it needs stoked. The small stoves will burn out after 3-4 hours and therefore need stoked in the middle of the night. Nice video Bob!
I’ll stoke mine for heat lol survival is not lazy it’s work to maintain life as our ancestors had experienced true skills is the key to survival thank you bob your very informative and this will help the younger generations in the future Gods blessings to you
Not really. It's more dependent on the type of stove, the type of fire, and the fuel. Find a friend that's a welder, preferably tig. Get an old oxy bottle or the like. Have that made into a wood stove. 12 hours of burn time with good fuel.
Since a wood-burning stove gets very hot, I would not recommend its use in a van, even a big van. The entire area around a stove has to be kept clear (sides and top) and the base has to be fireproof. In short, IMHO, there is simply not enough room in a van to use such a stove SAFELY.
It cracks me up when people say “free heat”. We heated with wood 40 plus years growing up. Yes “technically” it an be “FREE”, if you don’t buy it, but it’s a tremendous amount of work. That said, there’s nothing like wood heat, nothing to break down, and if you have plenty of time/energy, it’s great. But just so we’re clear, it’s a lot of work. Another benefit is you get warmed 5-6 times. Cutting, splitting, hauling, stacking, burning , lol Love the videos
I'd like a video on how to survive van life or nomad life while living with crippling agonising pain issues and low or no income. As a disabled person I expect to become homeless in the future.
I endorse and have used the "cubic wood stove"...built in Canada....two sizes, mine is the CUB measures 12"x12"x12"....works awesome even in Canada...8 years and still going strong...
Is Cub the name of the stove & can you cook on it? I'm looking for something for my tiny house (288sf) for a good alternative heat source. I had a nice smaller wood stove years ago when I lived in Ontario, Canada; but, that was back in the 80s & unfortunately I don't remember the name of the company. Thanks!
I guess the fiddly stove pipe was ONLY meant to be used when tied into the tent roof stovepipe adaption? On it's own it was just wobbly and not safe. I am going to look for a RUclips video on setting it up and maybe there is a trick we need to SEE. I tend to need a visual and you always give it a heroric effort so Thanks Bob!
You have so much charm that recovery on messing it up was A tier in entertainment! As a musician when on stage we keep our cool when we hit a bad note and we just rolled with the punches.
Winnerwell makes a very high quality product. I have the small with the rounded version. I took the long legs off it and mounted it to a stainless steel cooking sheet. Go as big as you have room for to get longer burn times. Free heat for life if needed!
Thanks Bob. I would love to have a woodstove in my van but do not have the room, nor the clearence. Using a diesel heater set outside my van and it has kept me and my cat warm in -4 weather. I am camping in KY now and have been on the road for 6 months.
Bob, I know you've probably talked about this before, but there is a middle ground between the Mr. Buddy and a woodstove (in terms of moisture production). That's the Wave 3. From what I hear, it puts out a lot less moisture than the Mr. Buddy, and it sips propane. Both of the "dry heat" options--a wood stove or a diesel heater--require cutting holes in your vehicle. And a diesel heater requires electricity as well as fuel. The Wave 3 doesn't require either electricity or cutting holes, and what little moisture it does emit can be dealt with fairly easily. It also has automatic shut off if it gets tipped over, which is important in a car/suv/van. And, as an added bonus, the Wave 3 is very easy to move from your rig to a tent. I'm sure a wood stove would be great in a tent, but my personal opinion is that a wood stove is too hazardous for a small space like a vehicle. Others may disagree, of course. But that's my two cents worth.
I agree. A woodstove wouldn't be my choice in a vehicle and a small one is definitely a no-go. We used to camp with a smallish woodstove in our cabin tent.
It still puts out moisture. It’s just the way the chemical reaction occurs when the propane burns. If it’s an unvented propane stove, it will put out moisture, just less moisture because it’s burning less fuel.
A single pine cone can put out a lot of heat. They burn down to hot coals that can last a long time on low setting. Ten pine cones can heat my camper all night long.
I always use a couple pine cones to start my large woodstove. But theres alot of pitch burning and im wondering how much soot buildup occurs in the stove pipe? Especially if you are burning nothing besides the cones as you mentioned. Be careful. The pitch buildup inside the pipe could ignite causing a hot fire in the pipe, and that could spell disaster.
Cool tent and stove. Looks like an ideal set up to camp and remove ground fuel to lessen the damage caused by forest fires. In other words, ask the BLM where there is a need to clean up the ground fuel around populated areas. Camp there with the permission of all and do some clean up.
Yeah, here in Indiana & Michigan we can't just go gather up firewood on park lands. Signs up prohibiting it, bige fines if you do. Even twigs and branches.
Thank you for sharing. 1- some of the compact chimneys have tethers at the top, similar to around the tent. 2- "free firewood", please be careful. Most of us are responsible travelers, but there's sometimes a few bad apples. I can now imagine chainsaws wailing or wasting a natural resource. GVT is easy to judge and start limiting or taxing such "free" items.
Hi Sir, yesterday I saw Nomadland and I believe you played yourself in this eye opening wonderful yet so painful movie, wish I could write English better because I come short in catch this movie in a few words. You told the lady about your son and living in memories instead of living in life itself. Thank you, although I cry writing this I never ever realized I do or did the same for 38 years, in may I might be 58 and I don’t know if I am too late to start living again. If I do I will try to come over once again to the USA and visit quartssite if I pronounce it correctly. English is not my native tongue so please step over the typos. Best regards and hopefully one day you want to shake my hand. Albert 🇳🇱
I watch and I love all of your videos because I learn so much.. I thought it was very ironic in the beginning of your video you were advertising wood stoves and not a tree in sight..hehe.. keep up the great videos because they are very informative and entertaining 😊👍😁🍻
Foresty Forest (youtube) installed a small wood stove in his van a year or two ago. He climbs mountains in the Rockies and experiences a lot of cold weather. He loves his. There is something about having a fire that, as a human, we all really like. He also saves the noise and cost of running his diesel heater except for the coldest conditions. He has an electric chainsaw he uses to process downed timber into short firewood.
I've been using a cubic-mini on my boat for years. BIG difference in the moldiness factor when you get the cabin heated up well every day. The pipes need to be taken apart and cleaned quite often, so get the tools.. Also a hand vac and a sawzall with wide tooth blades. I got the bigger one, you can always make a smaller fire. I love it!
A word of caution: If any stove designed to be used in a tent is used in a vehicle or permanent structure,DO NOT use the stove pipe that comes with the stove. Use conventional UL rated stove pipe.
Thank you Bob for this very important testing. I heat my home with a woodstove and I like it but I do not have a backup heating plan. So I deal with little issues sometimes. But a tiny woodstove in a small space, I would want some kind of emergency backup. But if course you can't beat the cost heat. I hope you get a hold of the company that makes the faulty pipe assembly and warn them . They WILL listen to you. Thanks for all you do for everyone. From Central Oklahoma
I have winnerwell medium and the very well made... I would get a large if I had it over simply for the larger stove pipe/chimney. Chimney needs to be at least metre above roof to provide enough draw to prevent smoke blow back... built it in my caravan and I have the windows open when its blazing... it cost including the roof rubber boot and some extra angled chimney pipes about $7-800 nzd. I take chimney off when driving . Yes it burns through the wood fast and u can't really shut it down for slow burn all night but it was best affordable option and very light weight. Will say I bought extra chimney (size large so it is double skined because tne chimney is really dangerous ... eg will burn through couple layers of skin instantly if u accidentally touch it... I've have a couple of good burns before i right up double skin chimney. I have a wire pet pen modified to sit around it when its going in attempt to protect my self and dog from accidental contact with red hot stove... can be installed inside if u do ur research and do it safely... Smoke detector and vent required.
I have the Pomoly mini dweller in my dodge caravan. Of course I had to drill a hole in my roof and put a deck plate to seal it when driving…. No regrets I love it. I burn those compressed wood sawdust logs . Easy to cut, burn well and no worries to carry bugs around. I don’t use it when I sleep Just in the evenings and mornings, nice ambiance and good to warm up food and boil water for coffee. I made a aluminum sheet folding shield for heat protection around it and also have a piece to protect my ceiling with a usb fan to distribute the warm air all around. Carbon dioxyde and fire detectors a must , plus cracked window for fresh air. Certainly not a setup for everyone, it needs a lot of attention.
I agree and use a one burner propane grill. I put a coffee can sized heating can with the stainless steel baffles. I put the grill on the lowest settings and have a fan in my window to circulate fresh air. This method uses a one pound can a night of course it’s better if you can use a 10 lb. Or larger by transferring the propane with an adapter. I don’t like the idea of a wood stove it’s hard to find dry wood in the winter or during a rainy season. The ashes are a mess and there is generally a lot of work involved. Of course I am considering using it as a backup system but making holes in my topper for ventilation is not something I am looking forward too.
I could just see me camping in a Wal-Mart parking lot at night in a van and have this little heater fired up and smoke pouring out of the top of the van. I don't think that would go over to good but looks like a great little heater.
I love my winnerwell!! I placed mine in my Airstream right by the door so im not tracking in wood crumbs every where. It is very light and easy to clean, I adapted the spark arrestor for a dickenson marine spark arrestor with deck fitting and 3 inch pipe that my winnerwell 2.5 inch pipe slips into.And believe me not easy mentally thinking about cutting a hole in my Airstream roof!!
Bob, that stove needs a flange made to the top to secure the pipe. That rook up pipe, I agree, is a joke. I’m guessing if it’s packable they can cook outside and hunker down near it to stay warm, but no way Jose’, in a tent with that thing, lol. Thanks
lol you’re in short sleeves. I’m thinking it’s rather balmy at -24C. I promised myself I would live in what I bought before tearing it apart. I really want a wood stove but am city camping right now. They send fire trucks over if they see you burning here. So you need to have a second source of heat while in city. That is challenging in a small space.
One of the reasons that a wood burning stove is heavy is for safety and durability. You absolutely cannot have something flimsy that can fail during a burn, and set fire to your place, or fail during the night and kill you in the process. A foldable oven may look good, but it is just not solid enough to be trusted and you cannot light it inside a tent or a vehicle unless you are very sure that you can put out the fire when and if it comes out of control, or the shit falls apart. It may look great in theory but when you actually try to use it, you will soon see that it is a risky product and for outdoor use only..
I agree with you on that. Make it stable and reliable. If I had a fold up one, I'd probably weld it solid so that it was more stable. It doesn't matter to me how much it weighs, just how well it works. I wouldn't be able to sleep if I had to worry about the stove turning over full of hot coals. I'd be cutting and welding on it when I got home. If I have to do that, I might as well just make it myself.
Even the design of the bell tent protects best from the cold because of Thermo dynamics and physics alone, adding a wood burning stove, provided it can maintain safety regs i think that might be the best suggestion.
Love your channel! I installed one of these wood burners and it worked great for a few days but the stove pipe clogged up with soot! I had to go with a Chinese diesel heater. If your stove starts smoking excessively check the stove pipe. Keep the stove pipe straight, don't try to put turns in it like I had to.
Probably from too much moisture in what you were burning, 20 percent and under moisture content shouldn’t clog your pipes as long as it’s a good hardwood
Thanks Bob, perfect timing for this video as i was just trying to figure out how to put a wood stove in my rig. I would love to have a cubic mini but they are so expensive.
Mr. Bob you don't know me... Yet! But you are my mentor/muse! You are the reason im making plans to become a nomadic travler! I was a native Phoenician for 49 years now currently in Colorado. When i hit the road ill be visiting my kids in TX AZ and CO! Im 53 years young and on ssi. This life suits me perfectly! (I lived off grid for many years 22 miles NE of Flagstaff AZ on leupp Rd. Im sure you know where im taking about. Near meteor crater! Anyway, I just want to thank you for the hours of entertainment and inspiration! I can't wait to learn more from you and meet you in person!
To my knowledge, the "folding" stoves are meant to be used for a short amount of time. Basically, you warm up the tent for 15-30 minutes to get ready for the morning as well as 15-30 minutes before you bundle up in your winter weight sleeping bag. They were never meant to run all night like an airtight stove.
Titanium has a great strength to weight ratio but unless you’re carrying the stove in a backpack… is it worth all the extra expense? Stainless is plenty good.
One problem with purchasing the "smallest" stove is that you're going to have to feed it more often in order to keep it fired up. I suggest anyone interested consider at least a 14 inch long stove so you can put a couple of decent size logs in there. You don't want to be getting up all night long feeding the stove. The Winnerwell is a fine stove and so are the titanium stoves. The Winnerwell is stainless steel, weighs more, and takes a lot longer to cool down (when you're trying to pack up and leave a camp site the next morning...). The titanium is very durable and like the guy said, very light. If you're looking for a back-packing option, the titanium is definitely the way to go. The titanium chimney is a bit of a pain to roll out the first time but once you set it up and do a burn, it will always remember that "chimney" shape and is absolutely no problem to work with. It doesn't take much of a fire in a stove to heat up most tents so either way you'll be alright. Pomoly makes some really great titanium stoves definitely worth considering. At Pomoly you can purchase a chimney that comes in sections that you don't have to bother with rolling out. It will take up more space when you're packing it all away but it's not problem if you're car camping or something like that. In my opinion, you want your chimney to protrude from your tent so that it's at least 3 feet above your tent top. Regardless of which kind of tent you have, you don't want to take the risk of even small burns in the top of your tent if you can avoid it. A 3 foot height (from the highest point of the tent) will probably be safe with no burns.
This is consistent with all of the other stove reviews I've seen. These roll up stove pipes just don't cut it. The Winnerwell's are looking like the way to go. You didn't mention the thicker gauge metal of the Winnerwell but I understand it to be another great selling point. Thanks for these videos. Its great to get an opinion from people who actually use the product, and not just a salesperson. Travel safe and I look forward to meeting you some day.
Tips I would give are learn about sleeping bags (there's more to know than just getting inside). You can boil water and fill a spill proof bottle, put it inside the bag and you be warm for hours plus water is still usable. Depending on your bed situation, having insulation below you will retain heat. Don't let your sleep area fill with condensation either
Hi Bob, I love your channel and typically watch a few of your segments each night. I am amazed by the variety of living arrangements people have made from living in their car to a van, RV etc. Anyway, sometimes think about getting a teardrop and hitting the road. I'd love for you to do a video talking about where to start/go. Yes, I know anywhere i want but would want more specifics based on your experience. Also, so many park in the desert. is that allowed? how does one just park and set up camp?? I think you get the idea, I hope, about what I am asking.
If you get one of these and you get tired of chasing firewood, you can install a small burner in the bottom of it and connect that to a 5 gallon propane bottle and have heat for most of the winter from one bottle of propane. If you’re not a handyman you might need some help from a handyman.
Hi Bob, nice video... I have used small wood stoves and love the heat they put out, but I've resorted to a small vented propane stove made for an ice house since it is so much easier. A 25 lb tank will heat my 3/4 insulated (no floor insulation) cargo trailer for about 80 hours.
Thank you for making this video! I am just starting my van life journey and thought that it would be a nice idea to have a wood burning stove for the van and wasnt sure of what to get and if people actually used them. Your videos have been amazing!
Also firewood is green energy. Burning firewood puts exactly the same amount of CO2 in the air as it would if the same piece of wood had laid on the ground and rotted. So, as long as you replace the trees, firewood is a net zero pollutant.
Hi Bob, Little stoves are nice..though the design of the folding stove should be designed better to stabilize that tall pipe! GREAT VIDEO, as always! ❤ Hugs to you and Cody! 🤗 ❤
Hot tents are great for winter hunting trips and nomads. I sugest the larger stoves to limit constant tending. The titanium stive and pipe are great for backpack hunting trips. If you still want to give it away, i know someone who can use it. Another great video Bob. Thanks again
If you want the very best quality stove you can buy, check out Four Dog Stoves. They make a lightweight titanium stove. Yes, it’s more expensive, but it’s very good quality and will not burn out. Your great great great grand kids will still be using it, lol!
Hey bro! Watched a video came up after yours & he had older model of the bad pipe one you have, & he had a ring at bottom that screwed into the top of stove so ur missing a part I think. God bless u & urs for 2024!!
The reason to do an outside burn in for an hour or so is to burn off the oils from the manufacturing process. Its going to stink, smoke and put off fumes you won't like breathing
A wood stove is perfect for a van, camper, box truck etc. Built out right each should hold the heat well through the night. I've had both gas and wood but prefer wood.👍
The titanium pipe is secured by clipping into the stove, and going through stove jack. It won't move like you were moving it if you complete the installation. That wasn't a fair representation.
Brian from Off Grid Back Country Adventures uses a folding titanium backpacking tent sometimes. I believe his is a different brand with a telescoping stove pipe that is an easier setup.
I like that bigger stove but not the flimsy stack,i would find a way to reinforce the top of that stove around the stove pipe opening, then try to source the solid stove pipe parts 😊
Please dont burn pinewood. And dont burn wood that isnt dry Both pine and this years wood will build up creosote on your chimney and then you have a chimney fire. There is a lot to learn to building a proper, safe fire. It will do no harm to look into safety and troubleshooting. Thank you, Bob, for all you do for mankind ❤❤
On a winter night you will be stoking a small stove like this every hour. Maybe add a bunch of rocks as a heat sink would help. Also, don't work around a wood stove if you have an unkempt beard and hair!
I have mixed feelings on wood stoves. Wood burners assumes that the operator has integrity and ethics. I have gone to too many desert campsites to find previous campers have hacked on or cut down the few live trees/bushes there were to make firewood bc they are too lazy to walk the distances required in the desert to find dead branches. The odds that a new seedling will grow in the desert and the decades that it takes makes wood not such a good resource. Why they would use fresh cut wet wood is beyond me but they try it. Save the fireplace for camping in more temperate rainforests.
I make my own stoves. I've made quite a few of them over the years. I prefer a round stove with an added cooking surface on top. I wouldn't live in a van if I was paid to. I hit my head all the time. That stove isn't big enough for me. It looks like a tinkertoy to me. Sorry, but I'd rather have one that's big enough to put a night log in. I'm pretty good at welding stainless steel or on a steel tank. I just made whatever I wanted to try over the years, and I have learned quite a bit about how to do it right. I know that some people use those tiny stoves, but I don't want one. I would rather have one that's a little bigger than it needs to be, and just not fill it up all the way. That gives room for kindling without just cramming everything in. I made the one I'm using out of an old sandblasting tank. I shortened it and used the piece I cut off for the floor that the fire bricks and wood set on. I used a chrome semi truck exhaust pipe and welded it to the tank. Nothing flimsy about it. This is the fourth winter of using this one. I made the cooking surface out of short pieces of bed railing. I have a four gallon pot of water sitting on it, so when I make a fire in it, the water gets pretty hot. I usually let the fire go out and the water will stay hot for at least a couple of hours. That gives me instant hot water if I need it for cleaning stuff. It also saves wood. It's 21degrees outside, 7 degrees chill, and 76 in here. I just put a few pieces of pine 2x4s that I got free at the truss company. I use the stuff they cut off. They pay to have it hauled off so they don't care how much I get. Free is fine with me. It's already kiln dried and ready to burn. I get a little bit of round wood here and there too. I've looked at the stove you have there, and I can make one if I wanted to. I don't see why it couldn't be a little bigger though. Big enough for that stick of wood and some kindling.. Maybe putting one in a van isn't that great of an idea. You can't put enough wood in it for a very long burn time. I guess if you don't sleep much it would be okay. I usually build a fire in the morning to knock the chill off, but it never really gets very cold in here. These last few nights I have burned more wood though. Temps around zero with minus fifteen chill factor. I kept it 80 inside. I have always enjoyed making a stove and trying to figure out how to get it to work the best that I can. Well it's cute if nothing else. I've never made one that small though. I made a square one about three times that size, and it worked fine.
I used a "Cubic Grizzly" woodstove, Made In Canada! for four years, almost every night, through the entire Pandemic, from The Blue Range to the Yakk. I boondock high up! I had a Dewalt 20v little chainsaw and it was easy to find dead juniper everywhere I stayed usually. You mention "buying" wood? Huh? Theres truck loads of dead branches free right behind you. What country are those two made in?
I like the idea of a wood stove, but also anyone considering this should also keep in mind, the smaller the stove the more frequently it needs stoked. The small stoves will burn out after 3-4 hours and therefore need stoked in the middle of the night. Nice video Bob!
I’ll stoke mine for heat lol survival is not lazy it’s work to maintain life as our ancestors had experienced true skills is the key to survival thank you bob your very informative and this will help the younger generations in the future Gods blessings to you
Maybe stove jack holds the pipe
Not really. It's more dependent on the type of stove, the type of fire, and the fuel.
Find a friend that's a welder, preferably tig. Get an old oxy bottle or the like. Have that made into a wood stove. 12 hours of burn time with good fuel.
so no probs as a senior igo to the loo that often
Since a wood-burning stove gets very hot, I would not recommend its use in a van, even a big van. The entire area around a stove has to be kept clear (sides and top) and the base has to be fireproof. In short, IMHO, there is simply not enough room in a van to use such a stove SAFELY.
It cracks me up when people say “free heat”. We heated with wood 40 plus years growing up. Yes “technically” it an be “FREE”, if you don’t buy it, but it’s a tremendous amount of work. That said, there’s nothing like wood heat, nothing to break down, and if you have plenty of time/energy, it’s great. But just so we’re clear, it’s a lot of work. Another benefit is you get warmed 5-6 times. Cutting, splitting, hauling, stacking, burning , lol Love the videos
Don't forget to bring a metal bucket for the ashes..
I'd like a video on how to survive van life or nomad life while living with crippling agonising pain issues and low or no income. As a disabled person I expect to become homeless in the future.
God bless you.
I endorse and have used the "cubic wood stove"...built in Canada....two sizes, mine is the CUB measures 12"x12"x12"....works awesome even in Canada...8 years and still going strong...
Is Cub the name of the stove & can you cook on it? I'm looking for something for my tiny house (288sf) for a good alternative heat source. I had a nice smaller wood stove years ago when I lived in Ontario, Canada; but, that was back in the 80s & unfortunately I don't remember the name of the company. Thanks!
@@tandiparent1906 Check out the Dwarf wood stove.
Love the Winnerwel stove! They were out of the small ones. I would prefer a small one. Thanks, Bob! That other one was ridiculous! Wow!
I guess the fiddly stove pipe was ONLY meant to be used when tied into the tent roof stovepipe adaption? On it's own it was just wobbly and not safe. I am going to look for a RUclips video on setting it up and maybe there is a trick we need to SEE. I tend to need a visual and you always give it a heroric effort so Thanks Bob!
You have so much charm that recovery on messing it up was A tier in entertainment! As a musician when on stage we keep our cool when we hit a bad note and we just rolled with the punches.
They are practical. Got to know how to start a fire in them and how to vent them. Yurts are awesome. 😊
The little tent stoves are a God send thanks Bob
Winnerwell makes a very high quality product. I have the small with the rounded version. I took the long legs off it and mounted it to a stainless steel cooking sheet. Go as big as you have room for to get longer burn times. Free heat for life if needed!
Thanks Bob. I would love to have a woodstove in my van but do not have the room, nor the clearence. Using a diesel heater set outside my van and it has kept me and my cat warm in -4 weather. I am camping in KY now and have been on the road for 6 months.
Bob, I know you've probably talked about this before, but there is a middle ground between the Mr. Buddy and a woodstove (in terms of moisture production). That's the Wave 3. From what I hear, it puts out a lot less moisture than the Mr. Buddy, and it sips propane. Both of the "dry heat" options--a wood stove or a diesel heater--require cutting holes in your vehicle. And a diesel heater requires electricity as well as fuel. The Wave 3 doesn't require either electricity or cutting holes, and what little moisture it does emit can be dealt with fairly easily. It also has automatic shut off if it gets tipped over, which is important in a car/suv/van. And, as an added bonus, the Wave 3 is very easy to move from your rig to a tent.
I'm sure a wood stove would be great in a tent, but my personal opinion is that a wood stove is too hazardous for a small space like a vehicle. Others may disagree, of course. But that's my two cents worth.
I agree. A woodstove wouldn't be my choice in a vehicle and a small one is definitely a no-go. We used to camp with a smallish woodstove in our cabin tent.
It still puts out moisture. It’s just the way the chemical reaction occurs when the propane burns. If it’s an unvented propane stove, it will put out moisture, just less moisture because it’s burning less fuel.
Carbon monoxide?
A single pine cone can put out a lot of heat. They burn down to hot coals that can last a long time on low setting. Ten pine cones can heat my camper all night long.
I always use a couple pine cones to start my large woodstove. But theres alot of pitch burning and im wondering how much soot buildup occurs in the stove pipe? Especially if you are burning nothing besides the cones as you mentioned. Be careful. The pitch buildup inside the pipe could ignite causing a hot fire in the pipe, and that could spell disaster.
Cool tent and stove. Looks like an ideal set up to camp and remove ground fuel to lessen the damage caused by forest fires. In other words, ask the BLM where there is a need to clean up the ground fuel around populated areas. Camp there with the permission of all and do some clean up.
Yeah, here in Indiana & Michigan we can't just go gather up firewood on park lands. Signs up prohibiting it, bige fines if you do. Even twigs and branches.
Thank you for sharing.
1- some of the compact chimneys have tethers at the top, similar to around the tent.
2- "free firewood", please be careful. Most of us are responsible travelers, but there's sometimes a few bad apples. I can now imagine chainsaws wailing or wasting a natural resource. GVT is easy to judge and start limiting or taxing such "free" items.
Hi Sir, yesterday I saw Nomadland and I believe you played yourself in this eye opening wonderful yet so painful movie, wish I could write English better because I come short in catch this movie in a few words. You told the lady about your son and living in memories instead of living in life itself. Thank you, although I cry writing this I never ever realized I do or did the same for 38 years, in may I might be 58 and I don’t know if I am too late to start living again. If I do I will try to come over once again to the USA and visit quartssite if I pronounce it correctly. English is not my native tongue so please step over the typos. Best regards and hopefully one day you want to shake my hand. Albert 🇳🇱
Albert, perhaps you can come to the next get together that Bob hosts in 2025. I bet Bob would be delighted to meet you.
I watch and I love all of your videos because I learn so much.. I thought it was very ironic in the beginning of your video you were advertising wood stoves and not a tree in sight..hehe.. keep up the great videos because they are very informative and entertaining 😊👍😁🍻
Hi Bob. Great Video.
For cooking I have a little hibachi. Not for heating but for cooking. Twigs small pieces of wood or even charcoal works well with it.
Foresty Forest (youtube) installed a small wood stove in his van a year or two ago. He climbs mountains in the Rockies and experiences a lot of cold weather. He loves his. There is something about having a fire that, as a human, we all really like. He also saves the noise and cost of running his diesel heater except for the coldest conditions. He has an electric chainsaw he uses to process downed timber into short firewood.
On ‘Lonewolf 902’ channel he’s installed wood burning stoves in his vehicles too.
I've been using a cubic-mini on my boat for years. BIG difference in the moldiness factor when you get the cabin heated up well every day. The pipes need to be taken apart and cleaned quite often, so get the tools.. Also a hand vac and a sawzall with wide tooth blades. I got the bigger one, you can always make a smaller fire. I love it!
Love wood stoves. I also like those little wood gas stoves (approx. $20) for cooking on when you run out of other forms of gas or electricity.
A word of caution: If any stove designed to be used in a tent is used in a vehicle or permanent structure,DO NOT use the stove pipe that comes with the stove. Use conventional UL rated stove pipe.
Thank you Bob for this very important testing. I heat my home with a woodstove and I like it but I do not have a backup heating plan. So I deal with little issues sometimes.
But a tiny woodstove in a small space, I would want some kind of emergency backup. But if course you can't beat the cost heat. I hope you get a hold of the company that makes the faulty pipe assembly and warn them . They WILL listen to you. Thanks for all you do for everyone. From Central Oklahoma
Hi. I'm from Oklahoma too. Northeastern part.
Love my Winnerwell stove. Love it. Actually mine has a front and right side window.
what a tipy!!! 👍👍👍👍 have a nice day all 🙂
Great video 👍. I agree with you. If you pay alot for you should not have to rig it up for it to work correctly. That is a bad design flaw
I have winnerwell medium and the very well made... I would get a large if I had it over simply for the larger stove pipe/chimney. Chimney needs to be at least metre above roof to provide enough draw to prevent smoke blow back... built it in my caravan and I have the windows open when its blazing... it cost including the roof rubber boot and some extra angled chimney pipes about $7-800 nzd. I take chimney off when driving .
Yes it burns through the wood fast and u can't really shut it down for slow burn all night but it was best affordable option and very light weight. Will say I bought extra chimney (size large so it is double skined because tne chimney is really dangerous ... eg will burn through couple layers of skin instantly if u accidentally touch it... I've have a couple of good burns before i right up double skin chimney. I have a wire pet pen modified to sit around it when its going in attempt to protect my self and dog from accidental contact with red hot stove... can be installed inside if u do ur research and do it safely...
Smoke detector and vent required.
What a really cool little wood burner
Thank you for your honest opinion !!!
I have the Pomoly mini dweller in my dodge caravan. Of course I had to drill a hole in my roof and put a deck plate to seal it when driving…. No regrets I love it. I burn those compressed wood sawdust logs . Easy to cut, burn well and no worries to carry bugs around. I don’t use it when I sleep
Just in the evenings and mornings, nice ambiance and good to warm up food and boil water for coffee. I made a aluminum sheet folding shield for heat protection around it and also have a piece to protect my ceiling with a usb fan to distribute the warm air all around. Carbon dioxyde and fire detectors a must , plus cracked window for fresh air. Certainly not a setup for everyone, it needs a lot of attention.
I agree and use a one burner propane grill. I put a coffee can sized heating can with the stainless steel baffles. I put the grill on the lowest settings and have a fan in my window to circulate fresh air. This method uses a one pound can a night of course it’s better if you can use a 10 lb. Or larger by transferring the propane with an adapter. I don’t like the idea of a wood stove it’s hard to find dry wood in the winter or during a rainy season. The ashes are a mess and there is generally a lot of work involved. Of course I am considering using it as a backup system but making holes in my topper for ventilation is not something I am looking forward too.
Great review on both. Thanks Bob. Great channel!
I could just see me camping in a Wal-Mart parking lot at night in a van and have this little heater fired up and smoke pouring out of the top of the van. I don't think that would go over to good but looks like a great little heater.
I love my winnerwell!! I placed mine in my Airstream right by the door so im not tracking in wood crumbs every where. It is very light and easy to clean, I adapted the spark arrestor for a dickenson marine spark arrestor with deck fitting and 3 inch pipe that my winnerwell 2.5 inch pipe slips into.And believe me not easy mentally thinking about cutting a hole in my Airstream roof!!
Bob, that stove needs a flange made to the top to secure the pipe. That rook up pipe, I agree, is a joke. I’m guessing if it’s packable they can cook outside and hunker down near it to stay warm, but no way Jose’, in a tent with that thing, lol. Thanks
I like those wood stoves,one that holds 16inch long logs.average length,dont have to stoke the fire as much thru the nite
lol you’re in short sleeves. I’m thinking it’s rather balmy at -24C. I promised myself I would live in what I bought before tearing it apart. I really want a wood stove but am city camping right now. They send fire trucks over if they see you burning here. So you need to have a second source of heat while in city. That is challenging in a small space.
Thank you for this video I think it saved me from making a poor decision on a small wood stove!
Excellent information. Thank you Bob.👍
Thank you, Bob, for this educational video.
When I get my skoolie, I’m heating with a wood stove. Stay warm, decrease moisture.
Love the wood stove! Thanks Bob! 🙋♀️
I would love 9ne of those stove. Trying my best to get family ready for winter.
One of the reasons that a wood burning stove is heavy is for safety and durability. You absolutely cannot have something flimsy that can fail during a burn, and set fire to your place, or fail during the night and kill you in the process. A foldable oven may look good, but it is just not solid enough to be trusted and you cannot light it inside a tent or a vehicle unless you are very sure that you can put out the fire when and if it comes out of control, or the shit falls apart. It may look great in theory but when you actually try to use it, you will soon see that it is a risky product and for outdoor use only..
I agree with you on that. Make it stable and reliable. If I had a fold up one, I'd probably weld it solid so that it was more stable. It doesn't matter to me how much it weighs, just how well it works. I wouldn't be able to sleep if I had to worry about the stove turning over full of hot coals. I'd be cutting and welding on it when I got home. If I have to do that, I might as well just make it myself.
I love the idea of titanium but that titanium foil stove pipe is too fiddly.
Even the design of the bell tent protects best from the cold because of Thermo dynamics and physics alone, adding a wood burning stove, provided it can maintain safety regs i think that might be the best suggestion.
Thanks lots of info Bob .
6:00 😂😂😂 the way he said made me laugh
Thanks for the honest review of the stoves😊. Safety is of utmost importance
Thank you. I bought a wood-burning stove for my 1957 Westerner.
Love your channel! I installed one of these wood burners and it worked great for a few days but the stove pipe clogged up with soot! I had to go with a Chinese diesel heater. If your stove starts smoking excessively check the stove pipe. Keep the stove pipe straight, don't try to put turns in it like I had to.
Probably from too much moisture in what you were burning, 20 percent and under moisture content shouldn’t clog your pipes as long as it’s a good hardwood
Everything needs maintenance
It would be very handy to dry clothes on the racks .
Thanks Bob, perfect timing for this video as i was just trying to figure out how to put a wood stove in my rig. I would love to have a cubic mini but they are so expensive.
Thanks. I love that you cover everything!
Mr. Bob you don't know me... Yet! But you are my mentor/muse! You are the reason im making plans to become a nomadic travler! I was a native Phoenician for 49 years now currently in Colorado. When i hit the road ill be visiting my kids in TX AZ and CO!
Im 53 years young and on ssi. This life suits me perfectly! (I lived off grid for many years 22 miles NE of Flagstaff AZ on leupp Rd. Im sure you know where im taking about. Near meteor crater! Anyway, I just want to thank you for the hours of entertainment and inspiration! I can't wait to learn more from you and meet you in person!
To my knowledge, the "folding" stoves are meant to be used for a short amount of time. Basically, you warm up the tent for 15-30 minutes to get ready for the morning as well as 15-30 minutes before you bundle up in your winter weight sleeping bag. They were never meant to run all night like an airtight stove.
Thank you for sharing ✌️💞🤟
Congrats on hitting 700,000 Subs Mr Bob!
Titanium has a great strength to weight ratio but unless you’re carrying the stove in a backpack… is it worth all the extra expense? Stainless is plenty good.
One problem with purchasing the "smallest" stove is that you're going to have to feed it more often in order to keep it fired up. I suggest anyone interested consider at least a 14 inch long stove so you can put a couple of decent size logs in there. You don't want to be getting up all night long feeding the stove. The Winnerwell is a fine stove and so are the titanium stoves. The Winnerwell is stainless steel, weighs more, and takes a lot longer to cool down (when you're trying to pack up and leave a camp site the next morning...). The titanium is very durable and like the guy said, very light. If you're looking for a back-packing option, the titanium is definitely the way to go. The titanium chimney is a bit of a pain to roll out the first time but once you set it up and do a burn, it will always remember that "chimney" shape and is absolutely no problem to work with. It doesn't take much of a fire in a stove to heat up most tents so either way you'll be alright. Pomoly makes some really great titanium stoves definitely worth considering. At Pomoly you can purchase a chimney that comes in sections that you don't have to bother with rolling out. It will take up more space when you're packing it all away but it's not problem if you're car camping or something like that. In my opinion, you want your chimney to protrude from your tent so that it's at least 3 feet above your tent top. Regardless of which kind of tent you have, you don't want to take the risk of even small burns in the top of your tent if you can avoid it. A 3 foot height (from the highest point of the tent) will probably be safe with no burns.
Excellent !
Thank for taking the time to post this Bob 😊
This is a high speed version of a Yukon stove we used for the military in Alaska
Thank you for this vid.
Awesome review. Thanks
Great review. Thanks.
In the army we had stoves that used diesel or gas or a combo of both and you could burn wood as well. Wonder if there are anything like it.
This is consistent with all of the other stove reviews I've seen. These roll up stove pipes just don't cut it. The Winnerwell's are looking like the way to go. You didn't mention the thicker gauge metal of the Winnerwell but I understand it to be another great selling point. Thanks for these videos. Its great to get an opinion from people who actually use the product, and not just a salesperson. Travel safe and I look forward to meeting you some day.
Tips I would give are learn about sleeping bags (there's more to know than just getting inside). You can boil water and fill a spill proof bottle, put it inside the bag and you be warm for hours plus water is still usable. Depending on your bed situation, having insulation below you will retain heat. Don't let your sleep area fill with condensation either
Hi Bob, I love your channel and typically watch a few of your segments each night. I am amazed by the variety of living arrangements people have made from living in their car to a van, RV etc. Anyway, sometimes think about getting a teardrop and hitting the road. I'd love for you to do a video talking about where to start/go. Yes, I know anywhere i want but would want more specifics based on your experience. Also, so many park in the desert. is that allowed? how does one just park and set up camp?? I think you get the idea, I hope, about what I am asking.
If you get one of these and you get tired of chasing firewood, you can install a small burner in the bottom of it and connect that to a 5 gallon propane bottle and have heat for most of the winter from one bottle of propane. If you’re not a handyman you might need some help from a handyman.
Hi Bob, nice video... I have used small wood stoves and love the heat they put out, but I've resorted to a small vented propane stove made for an ice house since it is so much easier. A 25 lb tank will heat my 3/4 insulated (no floor insulation) cargo trailer for about 80 hours.
sometime cheap is too cheap
Thank you for making this video! I am just starting my van life journey and thought that it would be a nice idea to have a wood burning stove for the van and wasnt sure of what to get and if people actually used them. Your videos have been amazing!
Good review, Bob
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Also firewood is green energy. Burning firewood puts exactly the same amount of CO2 in the air as it would if the same piece of wood had laid on the ground and rotted.
So, as long as you replace the trees, firewood is a net zero pollutant.
Hi Bob,
Little stoves are nice..though the design of the folding stove should be designed better to stabilize that tall pipe! GREAT VIDEO, as always! ❤
Hugs to you and Cody! 🤗 ❤
Hot tents are great for winter hunting trips and nomads. I sugest the larger stoves to limit constant tending. The titanium stive and pipe are great for backpack hunting trips. If you still want to give it away, i know someone who can use it. Another great video Bob. Thanks again
If you want the very best quality stove you can buy, check out Four Dog Stoves. They make a lightweight titanium stove. Yes, it’s more expensive, but it’s very good quality and will not burn out. Your great great great grand kids will still be using it, lol!
Thanks for the mini wood stove reviews. I'll pass on the second one as it doesn't look safe to me either.
Hey bro! Watched a video came up after yours & he had older model of the bad pipe one you have, & he had a ring at bottom that screwed into the top of stove so ur missing a part I think. God bless u & urs for 2024!!
That's a fancy littel jig.
Bravo
Thanks
The reason to do an outside burn in for an hour or so is to burn off the oils from the manufacturing process. Its going to stink, smoke and put off fumes you won't like breathing
Good Grief! Great Idea! Too Bad it Does Not Work! Thanks for showing it! Love Saving the money I Might have burned" up!
A wood stove is perfect for a van, camper, box truck etc. Built out right each should hold the heat well through the night. I've had both gas and wood but prefer wood.👍
The titanium pipe is secured by clipping into the stove, and going through stove jack. It won't move like you were moving it if you complete the installation. That wasn't a fair representation.
Brian from Off Grid Back Country Adventures uses a folding titanium backpacking tent sometimes. I believe his is a different brand with a telescoping stove pipe that is an easier setup.
Wood suitable for burning in a stove needs to be seasoned, at least for 1 season, depending on the ratio of surface area to volume.
I like that bigger stove but not the flimsy stack,i would find a way to reinforce the top of that stove around the stove pipe opening, then try to source the solid stove pipe parts 😊
Please dont burn pinewood. And dont burn wood that isnt dry
Both pine and this years wood will build up creosote on your chimney and then you have a chimney fire. There is a lot to learn to building a proper, safe fire. It will do no harm to look into safety and troubleshooting.
Thank you, Bob, for all you do for mankind ❤❤
I wish they made something like this for small rooms. 😏
On a winter night you will be stoking a small stove like this every hour. Maybe add a bunch of rocks as a heat sink would help. Also, don't work around a wood stove if you have an unkempt beard and hair!
Really neat.
I have mixed feelings on wood stoves. Wood burners assumes that the operator has integrity and ethics. I have gone to too many desert campsites to find previous campers have hacked on or cut down the few live trees/bushes there were to make firewood bc they are too lazy to walk the distances required in the desert to find dead branches. The odds that a new seedling will grow in the desert and the decades that it takes makes wood not such a good resource. Why they would use fresh cut wet wood is beyond me but they try it. Save the fireplace for camping in more temperate rainforests.
I make my own stoves. I've made quite a few of them over the years. I prefer a round stove with an added cooking surface on top. I wouldn't live in a van if I was paid to. I hit my head all the time. That stove isn't big enough for me. It looks like a tinkertoy to me. Sorry, but I'd rather have one that's big enough to put a night log in. I'm pretty good at welding stainless steel or on a steel tank. I just made whatever I wanted to try over the years, and I have learned quite a bit about how to do it right. I know that some people use those tiny stoves, but I don't want one. I would rather have one that's a little bigger than it needs to be, and just not fill it up all the way. That gives room for kindling without just cramming everything in. I made the one I'm using out of an old sandblasting tank. I shortened it and used the piece I cut off for the floor that the fire bricks and wood set on. I used a chrome semi truck exhaust pipe and welded it to the tank. Nothing flimsy about it. This is the fourth winter of using this one. I made the cooking surface out of short pieces of bed railing. I have a four gallon pot of water sitting on it, so when I make a fire in it, the water gets pretty hot. I usually let the fire go out and the water will stay hot for at least a couple of hours. That gives me instant hot water if I need it for cleaning stuff. It also saves wood. It's 21degrees outside, 7 degrees chill, and 76 in here. I just put a few pieces of pine 2x4s that I got free at the truss company. I use the stuff they cut off. They pay to have it hauled off so they don't care how much I get. Free is fine with me. It's already kiln dried and ready to burn. I get a little bit of round wood here and there too. I've looked at the stove you have there, and I can make one if I wanted to. I don't see why it couldn't be a little bigger though. Big enough for that stick of wood and some kindling.. Maybe putting one in a van isn't that great of an idea. You can't put enough wood in it for a very long burn time. I guess if you don't sleep much it would be okay. I usually build a fire in the morning to knock the chill off, but it never really gets very cold in here. These last few nights I have burned more wood though. Temps around zero with minus fifteen chill factor. I kept it 80 inside. I have always enjoyed making a stove and trying to figure out how to get it to work the best that I can. Well it's cute if nothing else. I've never made one that small though. I made a square one about three times that size, and it worked fine.
I would be roasting anywhere over 73 degrees, and I am cold natured.
I used a "Cubic Grizzly" woodstove, Made In Canada! for four years, almost every night, through the entire Pandemic, from The Blue Range to the Yakk. I boondock high up! I had a Dewalt 20v little chainsaw and it was easy to find dead juniper everywhere I stayed usually. You mention "buying" wood? Huh? Theres truck loads of dead branches free right behind you. What country are those two made in?