I shared neuvillette's frustration when i started this quest, i was saying "come on just tell him what you know furina" and then when the quest ended, i was overwhelmed, i understood she cant tell him anything that was her duty, her burden to bear. Im so astounded at furina's will to not give in. She managed to reign in and sidetrack someone like neuvillette for 500 years and even now. Brava furina, brava.
I'm most impressed by Funira bravery putting her hand into what she thought was primodial sea water. She has to keep up acting, she cannot let people doubt that she was not the hydro archon, and she put her duty before her survival. Going back to every decision she made, you can see she always put her mission before herself.
@@teddanville6996I also had so much respect when we found out she wasn't going to tell the traveler her secret in the box and would keep moving along her painfully lonely road
At the time, i was genuinely angry. I saw furina as an egotistical archon that's more of a celebrity than an actual god since she clearly isn't much of a leader. She seemed unlikable and unsympathetic. Knowing that innocent people died during the flooding made me extremely angry that furina did nothing to step in to help anyone. Once i found out the truth about furina. I cried a little. Me and her share a lot of similarities. Sometimes, it is to a scary degree. Our supposed fates are very similar. Crying as everyone fades away. Her crying on her throne as Fontaine plummets into the sea, me crying in an abandoned place as i fade away as i lose everything i love, Extremely loneliness, Assume bad things are gonna happen, experiencing traumatic events and haunted by despair and guilt. It kinda lifts my spirits but also scares me. I never expected her to go from the epitome of everything i despise about humanity to being somewhat like me. It's a little scary seeing someone go through soo much sadness and be like me. I was kinda scared for furina. Cause unlike her, i can't escape my fate cause its a fate that i chose and am willing to make it happen despite how sad it is. Im the reason why i have a sad fate. I made myself act as a chaotic being who loves everything evil in order to be somewhat accepted since i was tired of being resentmented, and people seemed to enjoy chaos as i bullied people for entertainment. I eventually retired that role because it wasn't who i truly was. I was fated to cause soo much despair for innocent people but i avoided it, then i became overly invested in my own flawed sense of justice and eventually snapped out of that. Now im a depressed 20 year old child who has no purpose except to love and empathize with others, which has been a complete failure due to the other people's lack of empathy. Unlike a fictional world, our world is far more unkind than most worlds in fiction, so i can't simply take a path similar to furina to go back out into the world again cause i can't be accepted due to who i am.
I already felt that when arleccino interrogated her during the tea party with the traveler. On one note she was very stern saying she is doing something about the prophecy but when pressed for details she deflated. From that point I felt there is something keeping her from revealing her secrets. 😢
Damn, you can feel the tension between these two They cares about Fontaine with their own Perspectives but still makes sense ✨ and when they mention egeria... that was the point tho
I understand both of the situations. Neuvillete was just trying to get answers to help understand the problem, but Furina had to keep the secret of focalors whereabouts and secret of the prophecy
furina did not know focalors’ whereabouts- nor did she even know focalors was the true hydro archon. focalors never told her her real identity or the true extent of the plan and why furina had to act as the archon.
@@kittycatzapocalyseshe’s focalors, she’s the true hydro archon. Her trailer says this, focalors says she’s the same person and zhongli didn’t even address the divinity as her own person but as furina’s divinity and called furina the god of justice. I’m tired of people not acknowledging furina as the archon when the game is almost shoving it down your throat.
@@Hanako-San100 is this a joke? tell me you didn’t play act five without telling me. first of all, there is no “true hydro archon” anymore after focalors’ destroyed the hydro archon’s divine throne. focalors was the last hydro archon, there literally isn’t and will be no hydro archon after her. second of all, no tf she’s not. her trailer says NOTHING of the sort. furina is a human, not a god, and she has never been a god, so answer me this: how can a human who has never been a god be an archon?? she is not focalors nor are they the same person. they have NEVER been the same person. they are two complete separate entities from eachother. this has been said so many times it’s actually shocking that you are trying to tell me they are the same person. this was the whole TWIST of act five, the fact that furina is not the hydro archon. did you play with your eyes closed?? furina is not only acknowledged as a human by practically everyone, but by her CREATOR (foaclors) herself. furina is simply the human counterpart of focalors. hear that? human counterpart, not the same person. furina was created to be the human focalors’ always wished to be- this is quite literally said by focalors herself. focalors does not say they are the same person, she says “although she is in a sense, me, in human form” what this means is that focalors’ acknowledges her as her human counterpart and feels sorrow for what furina has been through. they are literally two sides of the same coin. they are NOT the same person, they have never been the same person. it’s genuinely frustrating to explain this because of how damn obvious this is. they’re extremely different. the whole point of act five was to show the fact that furina is a human who was forced to do a gods work for five centuries, which gave her extreme trauma as again, she is a HUMAN with a weak human mind. she possesses no divinity and has never possessed any. furina is no god, therefore she quite literally cannot be an archon. two people cannot be an archon at once. this is shown in the ei and makoto situation. focalors has ALWAYS been the hydro archon, and furina has always been her human counterpart. the reason zhongli says that she will go down as the god of justice is because of firstly, respect for what she has done for fontaine and because of the fact her whole life, she has been considered the god of justice by her people because NOBODY ever knew she was a HUMAN. she practically saved the nation and because of this zhongli says he respects her. the reason he says that “her divinity has vanished” is because of the fact the hydro archons throne has been destroyed, her divine-god counterpart focalors no longer exists. furina literally had zero clue why she was chosen by focalors to play the part of the hydro archon, all she knew was that she had to do it so ‘mirror-her’ (focalors) could save fontaine. this is because as i said, focalors never told her the extent of the plan. this is again said by focalors. go play act five before trying to correct me oh my god
@@kittycatzapocalyse you an idiot? If anything furina created focalors because her divinity wouldn’t exist if she hadn’t ascended to archonhood first. The divinity is the focalors we see not the archon throne she literally tells us that she’s the divinity of focalors. Splitting is different from creating. I just quoted stuff that happened and you back it up by headcanons telling me I didn’t watch. Her trailer announces her as the hydro archon, the chanson of all waters, its even in her banner for god’s sake. They are the same archon, both furina and the divinity refers to each other as the self and zhongli even refers to her as the god of justice and that she has made a contract to herself. “My self in human form” human counterpart does not contradict any of this ice is a solid counterpart of water but it’s still water in solid form. Divinities aren’t even acknowledged as a separate being, they are referred to as simply the archons divinity otherwise zhongli would refer to her as focalors and not furina’s divinity and tell us that she died not that the divinity vanished. Paimons analysis too, “she sacrificed herself as a god and suffered 500 years as a human is that really what she wanted” Furina is the og focalors since focalors wasn’t born divine, she only became one when she ascended as the archon. She has the body and soul of focalors along with the other things I’ve said therefore she’s her. Ei would beg to differ with the weak human mind since ei said that her mind has reached that of a god. Furina can exist without her divinity but the divinity cannot exist without her. If she hasn’t ascended to archonhood, she never would have had attained divinity. Respect is different from saying that she made a contract to herself, Zhongli would have said that she is comparable to a god or would have focused on her act if he didn’t believe that she was the archon herself not that she’s the god and she made a contract to herself. Also he would be belittling focalors by merely calling her a divinity of furina and saying that she vanished because he wouldn’t be respecting the fact that she’s her own person and not merely a divinity. Even focalors we see refers to herself as the divinity of focalors so it’s not just the archon throne, you’d be contradicting your own argument that she’s not the archon because if zhongli refering to that throne he’d be saying thatits furina’s throne not focalors. Just because she doesn’t remember it doesn’t mean that it’s automatically not her since that’s still focalors conciousness within her since she has the spirit. Her divine counterpart is literally her divinity, she has a divinity zhongli said she’s furina’s divinity, she herself said that she’s furina’s divinity, it’s as straightforward as you can get.
@@kittycatzapocalyse you an idiot? If anything furina created focalors because her divinity wouldn’t exist if she hadn’t ascended to archonhood first. The divinity is the focalors we see not the archon throne she literally tells us that she’s the divinity of focalors. Splitting is different from creating. I just quoted stuff that happened and you back it up by headcanons telling me I didn’t watch. Her trailer announces her as the hydro archon, the chanson of all waters, its even in her banner for god’s sake. They are the same archon, both furina and the divinity refers to each other as the self and zhongli even refers to her as the god of justice and that she has made a contract to herself. “My self in human form” human counterpart does not contradict any of this ice is a solid counterpart of water but it’s still water in solid form. Divinities aren’t even acknowledged as a separate being, they are referred to as simply the archons divinity otherwise zhongli would refer to her as focalors and not furina’s divinity and tell us that she died not that the divinity vanished. Paimons analysis too, “she sacrificed herself as a god and suffered 500 years as a human is that really what she wanted” Furina is the og focalors since focalors wasn’t born divine, she only became one when she ascended as the archon. She has the body and soul of focalors along with the other things I’ve said therefore she’s her. Ei would beg to differ with the weak human mind since ei said that her mind has reached that of a god. Furina can exist without her divinity but the divinity cannot exist without her. If she hasn’t ascended to archonhood, she never would have had attained divinity. Respect is different from saying that she made a contract to herself, Zhongli would have said that she is comparable to a god or would have focused on her act if he didn’t believe that she was the archon herself not that she’s the god and she made a contract to herself. Also he would be belittling focalors by merely calling her a divinity of furina and saying that she vanished because he wouldn’t be respecting the fact that she’s her own person and not merely a divinity. Even focalors we see refers to herself as the divinity of focalors so it’s not just the archon throne, you’d be contradicting your own argument that she’s not the archon because if zhongli refering to that throne he’d be saying thatits furina’s throne not focalors. Just because she doesn’t remember it doesn’t mean that it’s automatically not her since that’s still focalors conciousness within her since she has the spirit. Her divine counterpart is literally her divinity, she has a divinity zhongli said she’s furina’s divinity, she herself said that she’s furina’s divinity, it’s as straightforward as you can get.
After the arguing you saw furina leaving the place running and I think is paimon who said that she was crying. In that moment I started to suspect a lot. Looks like she wanted to tell everything to Neuvillete but for some reason she can't.
i think neuvillette wanting for furina to show him her true self while furina distancing herself really shows their relationship like theyre so close that neuvillette thinks there should be no secrets between them and that furina would tell him if there was something wrong but obviously she can't tell anybody or the prophecy would happen neuvillette constantly trying to get closer to furina and discover her secret while she constantly distances herself making him feel frustrated to the point of putting her on trial and even then he didn't want to harm her... ughh they gave me so much brainrot im so sad fontaine is almost over (and we haven't had any more archon quests after the 4.2 one... it's been 4 patches now hoyo)
Furina: Oh so youve been watching me all this time, have you? I didnt think you were that type! I mean, neuvillette does love the taste of *water* he also likes looking at it.
@@RisenDivinities it quite literally wasn’t. Yeah that’s a thing but it’s definitely not happening here! Her basically calling him a creep was to get him off her back and to upset him. Which it worked, seeing as he literally got mad at her insinuating he’s a creep who watched her. If that’s what you considering flirting I’m a bit worried about you.
3:08 I can't believe some people fr have father-daughter hc about them even after when Furina said this to him. Like bro I am concerned about your relationship with your father if you believe that 💀💀💀💀
@@MavuikamybelovedYou’ve clearly never had a healthy relationship with your parents if you think that simple tone implies she meant it in a romantic context 😭 Daughters make jokes about their dads stalking them all the time, *I* do. Anyone with a normal healthy relationship with their parents would tell you especially how overprotective dads are of their daughters 😭
@@alcazarzaray I didn’t mean that it should be romantic!! they are close friends more than “ father and daughter “ because neuvillette doesn’t see her as a child. I’m talking about the relationship between the characters not irl !! like Furina is 500+ why would he watch her? she’s the hydro archon she doesn’t need anyone to look after her if she were a child it’s alright it’s not weird at all but she’s 500 she’s clearly an adult and also “ I didn’t know you were that type” I don’t think this is the way a daughter talks to her father. And how can you judge my relationship with my parents and say that it is unhealthy when you do not know a single thing about me or my relationships just because of a comment I wrote about fictional characters? Is your view that superficial? You judge a relationship you know nothing about just because of a comment? I have a good relationship with my parents and they are the best thing in my life and they care a lot about me and always protect me,and you come so easily and say it is unhealthy?! This is so superficial and really annoyed me.
because she is half of focalors? but since the hydro archon seat is destroyed, she lose her divinity, but that still makes her an archon, since archons are people who won the archon war
Furina literally made a joke about Neuvillette being a stalker and even said "I didn't think you were that type" and they still insist that they are father and daughter 💀💀💀 I'm not saying you have to ship them, but it's really weird to treat them like father and daughter, brothers
The really question is how he didn't notice she was faking being an archon all this time or that her personality is less mature than focalars something is off here
1. furina is alive and young for centuries 2. gods and archons specifically give off an aura as neuvilette said, furina had that. altho he had never taken a closer look at it, it felt off for him, he noted that thinking about it now, it felt like the aura of a curse, which makes sense considering what focalors did 3. he's not the type to go and test her through violent means, although that would have worked if he bothered💀
to begin with neuvilette didn't met focalor before personally. so there's no point of thinking and comparing focalor and furina. right after focalor became hydro Archon she didn't introduced herself and already went to proceed to her plan
He did say in the trial that he did sense something from Furina, which he thought was her divinity, but it was her curse, as for abilities, he most likely didn’t question it because there was never a moment where she needed to use it
I guess it was not a curse. Furina body was pretty much the human body of a God, even if she is powerless, her divine self Focalors would still able to supply enough divine to keep her body forever young. Furina body was likely divine enough to trick both Neuvillette and the Prophecy .
@@alexvasileva4297 eh, thats the vibe i get to the both of them in this cutscene(atleast the first half), but feel free to disagree, its just my opinion after all
y'all wouldn't act the same if both of them are males or females characters like for real just because they're male and female that doesn't mean they have to be father and daughter or siblings 💀
How can people See this scene as flirting or See sexual tension, Like how?! It doesnt fit this whole Scene and both of the characters. Furina Just Heard about the death of the people in Poisson, she is shocked, sad and Hurt that Something Like this happend and she couldnt do anything to protect them and still she Has to Play her role and Draw her Attention away from the questions Neuvillette gives her, because she can Not say anything. I am Not shure, but i think in this Moment she Has more important things in her head than to make a move on the Iudex. And Neuvillette in this whole Scene is irritaded, angry and pissed of of her behavior. The only Thing on His mind right now, is how He can End the Prophecy and save and protect the people of Fontaine. But shure "Whaaaat people died?! How horrible! Anyway perfect Timing for flirting" And sexually tension? After Furinas "Type" comment, Neuvillette Sounds Like he wants to rip her head of. Jeez, the "Wow. Whats your Secret? Let me guess" from Wriothesley sounded more flirtatious and spicy than this. Granted Not the best time to make a move on the Iudex either, but at least Neuvillettes respond then sounded that aggressive Like Here. And calling Neuvillette a Stalker...yeah Sure of course. Soooo romantic a stalker
@@castlescrumbled I am Not in denial, dont get me wrong i understand Neuvifuri and find it rather cute and fitting, especially after the Archonquest, when Furina can finally be herself and Neuvillette understands why she behaved Like she did. But seeing this Scene in a romantic way Just doesnt Work with me, Like i Said, it does Not fit the whole premise of the Scene and the characters, Like the Last lantern rite for example when they Met in Chenyu Vale or the Ending of the Archonquest, when Neuvillette tells us that He makes shure to Take Care of Furina. If Hoyo wants to hint at Something, i am pretty shure they would find another more suiting time and Scene, considering that they are pretty good at there Queer Coding hints they do. Also with Neuvillette and Furina being a straight relationship they dont need to hint at all, after all straight relationships are Not regulated or censored by the Chinese goverment. Or in short, whatever Neuvifuri or Wriolette, both of them are Not Canon, Not until Hoyo says so. There are only Things that can be interpreted in both ways
@@Sonnenschein404 people find that scene “flirty” as much as that other scene you compared it to. N & F’s argument sure is full of tension but others just choose to interpret more than that because that’s their kind of shipping lens. You know about the “Type” comment so I think you perfectly know why then why people have that shipping lens. Sure, english localization went insinuating “stalking”, but japanese and korean localizations of the same scene shaped it to where it is “I didn’t know you care for me” (it will show once you look up the kr/jp dialogues). But you didnt need to know that. Just saying that if you dont see NF that way thats fine because it’s a different pov than what shippers see. Ship whoever you like and dont bother people who enjoy a different headcanon than you. Because end of the day no ship is canon, and all hoyo does is give hints, not the real “confirmation” thing.
because she was acting. most people are not saying the the sexual tension was real. she was trying to make the situation less intimidating. however, the joke shows there's room between them to make flirtatious jokes, even though at that moment she was faking.
Ofc is always Wriollette shipper who say flirting is not flirting like That Was tensionate they are just jelous Wriothesley didn’t flirt with Neuvi and Furina did like bro shut uo
uhm? He didn’t. He was watching over her like her actions it’s not stalking! He’s just trying to protect the people of Fontaine and he wanted answers . STOP TWISTING THE SITUATION!?
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I shared neuvillette's frustration when i started this quest, i was saying "come on just tell him what you know furina" and then when the quest ended, i was overwhelmed, i understood she cant tell him anything that was her duty, her burden to bear. Im so astounded at furina's will to not give in. She managed to reign in and sidetrack someone like neuvillette for 500 years and even now. Brava furina, brava.
I'm most impressed by Funira bravery putting her hand into what she thought was primodial sea water. She has to keep up acting, she cannot let people doubt that she was not the hydro archon, and she put her duty before her survival. Going back to every decision she made, you can see she always put her mission before herself.
@@teddanville6996I also had so much respect when we found out she wasn't going to tell the traveler her secret in the box and would keep moving along her painfully lonely road
At the time, i was genuinely angry. I saw furina as an egotistical archon that's more of a celebrity than an actual god since she clearly isn't much of a leader. She seemed unlikable and unsympathetic.
Knowing that innocent people died during the flooding made me extremely angry that furina did nothing to step in to help anyone.
Once i found out the truth about furina. I cried a little. Me and her share a lot of similarities. Sometimes, it is to a scary degree. Our supposed fates are very similar. Crying as everyone fades away. Her crying on her throne as Fontaine plummets into the sea, me crying in an abandoned place as i fade away as i lose everything i love, Extremely loneliness, Assume bad things are gonna happen, experiencing traumatic events and haunted by despair and guilt.
It kinda lifts my spirits but also scares me. I never expected her to go from the epitome of everything i despise about humanity to being somewhat like me. It's a little scary seeing someone go through soo much sadness and be like me. I was kinda scared for furina.
Cause unlike her, i can't escape my fate cause its a fate that i chose and am willing to make it happen despite how sad it is. Im the reason why i have a sad fate. I made myself act as a chaotic being who loves everything evil in order to be somewhat accepted since i was tired of being resentmented, and people seemed to enjoy chaos as i bullied people for entertainment. I eventually retired that role because it wasn't who i truly was. I was fated to cause soo much despair for innocent people but i avoided it, then i became overly invested in my own flawed sense of justice and eventually snapped out of that. Now im a depressed 20 year old child who has no purpose except to love and empathize with others, which has been a complete failure due to the other people's lack of empathy. Unlike a fictional world, our world is far more unkind than most worlds in fiction, so i can't simply take a path similar to furina to go back out into the world again cause i can't be accepted due to who i am.
I already felt that when arleccino interrogated her during the tea party with the traveler. On one note she was very stern saying she is doing something about the prophecy but when pressed for details she deflated. From that point I felt there is something keeping her from revealing her secrets. 😢
@@TheExiled112well u couldnt be more wrong
Damn, you can feel the tension between these two
They cares about Fontaine with their own Perspectives but still makes sense ✨ and when they mention egeria... that was the point tho
I cant praise her voice actress enough. Her performance is outstanding in this aq!
praise neuvi's va too
It hurts more cause later on we watch Neuvillette learn that the she couldn’t explain the real reason
I understand both of the situations. Neuvillete was just trying to get answers to help understand the problem, but Furina had to keep the secret of focalors whereabouts and secret of the prophecy
furina did not know focalors’ whereabouts- nor did she even know focalors was the true hydro archon. focalors never told her her real identity or the true extent of the plan and why furina had to act as the archon.
@@kittycatzapocalyseshe’s focalors, she’s the true hydro archon. Her trailer says this, focalors says she’s the same person and zhongli didn’t even address the divinity as her own person but as furina’s divinity and called furina the god of justice. I’m tired of people not acknowledging furina as the archon when the game is almost shoving it down your throat.
@@Hanako-San100 is this a joke? tell me you didn’t play act five without telling me. first of all, there is no “true hydro archon” anymore after focalors’ destroyed the hydro archon’s divine throne. focalors was the last hydro archon, there literally isn’t and will be no hydro archon after her.
second of all, no tf she’s not. her trailer says NOTHING of the sort. furina is a human, not a god, and she has never been a god, so answer me this: how can a human who has never been a god be an archon?? she is not focalors nor are they the same person. they have NEVER been the same person. they are two complete separate entities from eachother. this has been said so many times it’s actually shocking that you are trying to tell me they are the same person. this was the whole TWIST of act five, the fact that furina is not the hydro archon. did you play with your eyes closed?? furina is not only acknowledged as a human by practically everyone, but by her CREATOR (foaclors) herself. furina is simply the human counterpart of focalors. hear that? human counterpart, not the same person. furina was created to be the human focalors’ always wished to be- this is quite literally said by focalors herself. focalors does not say they are the same person, she says “although she is in a sense, me, in human form” what this means is that focalors’ acknowledges her as her human counterpart and feels sorrow for what furina has been through. they are literally two sides of the same coin. they are NOT the same person, they have never been the same person. it’s genuinely frustrating to explain this because of how damn obvious this is. they’re extremely different. the whole point of act five was to show the fact that furina is a human who was forced to do a gods work for five centuries, which gave her extreme trauma as again, she is a HUMAN with a weak human mind. she possesses no divinity and has never possessed any. furina is no god, therefore she quite literally cannot be an archon. two people cannot be an archon at once. this is shown in the ei and makoto situation. focalors has ALWAYS been the hydro archon, and furina has always been her human counterpart. the reason zhongli says that she will go down as the god of justice is because of firstly, respect for what she has done for fontaine and because of the fact her whole life, she has been considered the god of justice by her people because NOBODY ever knew she was a HUMAN. she practically saved the nation and because of this zhongli says he respects her. the reason he says that “her divinity has vanished” is because of the fact the hydro archons throne has been destroyed, her divine-god counterpart focalors no longer exists. furina literally had zero clue why she was chosen by focalors to play the part of the hydro archon, all she knew was that she had to do it so ‘mirror-her’ (focalors) could save fontaine. this is because as i said, focalors never told her the extent of the plan. this is again said by focalors. go play act five before trying to correct me oh my god
@@kittycatzapocalyse you an idiot? If anything furina created focalors because her divinity wouldn’t exist if she hadn’t ascended to archonhood first. The divinity is the focalors we see not the archon throne she literally tells us that she’s the divinity of focalors. Splitting is different from creating. I just quoted stuff that happened and you back it up by headcanons telling me I didn’t watch. Her trailer announces her as the hydro archon, the chanson of all waters, its even in her banner for god’s sake. They are the same archon, both furina and the divinity refers to each other as the self and zhongli even refers to her as the god of justice and that she has made a contract to herself. “My self in human form” human counterpart does not contradict any of this ice is a solid counterpart of water but it’s still water in solid form. Divinities aren’t even acknowledged as a separate being, they are referred to as simply the archons divinity otherwise zhongli would refer to her as focalors and not furina’s divinity and tell us that she died not that the divinity vanished. Paimons analysis too, “she sacrificed herself as a god and suffered 500 years as a human is that really what she wanted” Furina is the og focalors since focalors wasn’t born divine, she only became one when she ascended as the archon. She has the body and soul of focalors along with the other things I’ve said therefore she’s her. Ei would beg to differ with the weak human mind since ei said that her mind has reached that of a god. Furina can exist without her divinity but the divinity cannot exist without her. If she hasn’t ascended to archonhood, she never would have had attained divinity. Respect is different from saying that she made a contract to herself, Zhongli would have said that she is comparable to a god or would have focused on her act if he didn’t believe that she was the archon herself not that she’s the god and she made a contract to herself. Also he would be belittling focalors by merely calling her a divinity of furina and saying that she vanished because he wouldn’t be respecting the fact that she’s her own person and not merely a divinity. Even focalors we see refers to herself as the divinity of focalors so it’s not just the archon throne, you’d be contradicting your own argument that she’s not the archon because if zhongli refering to that throne he’d be saying thatits furina’s throne not focalors. Just because she doesn’t remember it doesn’t mean that it’s automatically not her since that’s still focalors conciousness within her since she has the spirit. Her divine counterpart is literally her divinity, she has a divinity zhongli said she’s furina’s divinity, she herself said that she’s furina’s divinity, it’s as straightforward as you can get.
@@kittycatzapocalyse you an idiot? If anything furina created focalors because her divinity wouldn’t exist if she hadn’t ascended to archonhood first. The divinity is the focalors we see not the archon throne she literally tells us that she’s the divinity of focalors. Splitting is different from creating. I just quoted stuff that happened and you back it up by headcanons telling me I didn’t watch. Her trailer announces her as the hydro archon, the chanson of all waters, its even in her banner for god’s sake. They are the same archon, both furina and the divinity refers to each other as the self and zhongli even refers to her as the god of justice and that she has made a contract to herself. “My self in human form” human counterpart does not contradict any of this ice is a solid counterpart of water but it’s still water in solid form. Divinities aren’t even acknowledged as a separate being, they are referred to as simply the archons divinity otherwise zhongli would refer to her as focalors and not furina’s divinity and tell us that she died not that the divinity vanished. Paimons analysis too, “she sacrificed herself as a god and suffered 500 years as a human is that really what she wanted” Furina is the og focalors since focalors wasn’t born divine, she only became one when she ascended as the archon. She has the body and soul of focalors along with the other things I’ve said therefore she’s her. Ei would beg to differ with the weak human mind since ei said that her mind has reached that of a god. Furina can exist without her divinity but the divinity cannot exist without her. If she hasn’t ascended to archonhood, she never would have had attained divinity. Respect is different from saying that she made a contract to herself, Zhongli would have said that she is comparable to a god or would have focused on her act if he didn’t believe that she was the archon herself not that she’s the god and she made a contract to herself. Also he would be belittling focalors by merely calling her a divinity of furina and saying that she vanished because he wouldn’t be respecting the fact that she’s her own person and not merely a divinity. Even focalors we see refers to herself as the divinity of focalors so it’s not just the archon throne, you’d be contradicting your own argument that she’s not the archon because if zhongli refering to that throne he’d be saying thatits furina’s throne not focalors. Just because she doesn’t remember it doesn’t mean that it’s automatically not her since that’s still focalors conciousness within her since she has the spirit. Her divine counterpart is literally her divinity, she has a divinity zhongli said she’s furina’s divinity, she herself said that she’s furina’s divinity, it’s as straightforward as you can get.
"Mom...Dad...please don't fight."
I’m ur sibling
After the final revelation about furina this scene make sense.
The moment I saw this, I was like, “OPEN UP FURINA! TELL THE TRUTH!”😅
Is it the refrigerator one?
@@kumanberevolusi "refrigerator?" I don't follow...
if she did then everyone would be oceanids
Not the divorce arc!
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The only correct comment!
3:07 BEST PART
After the arguing you saw furina leaving the place running and I think is paimon who said that she was crying.
In that moment I started to suspect a lot. Looks like she wanted to tell everything to Neuvillete but for some reason she can't.
i think neuvillette wanting for furina to show him her true self while furina distancing herself really shows their relationship like theyre so close that neuvillette thinks there should be no secrets between them and that furina would tell him if there was something wrong but obviously she can't tell anybody or the prophecy would happen
neuvillette constantly trying to get closer to furina and discover her secret while she constantly distances herself making him feel frustrated to the point of putting her on trial and even then he didn't want to harm her...
ughh they gave me so much brainrot im so sad fontaine is almost over (and we haven't had any more archon quests after the 4.2 one... it's been 4 patches now hoyo)
If people have not yet completed the 4.2 AQ and Story Quest. Drop what you're doing and DO IT NOW.
No.... I am a child of divorce....
ok but those “heels hitting the floor noise” was godly in itself
their dynamic so soulmate like eimiko
Ikr? Not only does their matching designs and Elements give soulmates vibes, but their dynamics too.
yup ur right they have a healthy relationship which makes me like it more!@@amberxv4777
Yae and Ei are friends, wtf is wrong with you?
@@lilartist9892 It's a ship, even if the ones they're shipping are friends they can still ship them.
@@SoapySoappp ewww
Furina: Oh so youve been watching me all this time, have you? I didnt think you were that type!
I mean, neuvillette does love the taste of *water* he also likes looking at it.
Woah their mate a bit too spicy for my liking
A tal-, short glass of water 😂
NAHH- i flew of my bed when i read this
NAAAHHHHH 😭😭😭✋✋
Wow dude like this is true… Hoyo had this in mind while creating the scene…
2:09 this line hits rlly hard
Furina was probably also referring to Focalors especially since Focalors left her in the dark for 500 years
I think the people drowning was the breaking point for neuvillete to start arguing with furina
Mum, Dad, please stop fighting
Real
Mum and dad going thru their divorce rn 😭
@@feralfox5137 hii sibling
@@IlNeuvillettelI hii I’m still coping hru?
@@feralfox5137 my mother divorcrd my father and now I’m playing with my sister Sedene
3:09 Was that a...flirt?
Yes it was
It quite literally wasn’t 😭 she was insulting him
@@Kindredmagician-i5p It's called indirect flirting lmfao
@@RisenDivinities it quite literally wasn’t. Yeah that’s a thing but it’s definitely not happening here! Her basically calling him a creep was to get him off her back and to upset him. Which it worked, seeing as he literally got mad at her insinuating he’s a creep who watched her. If that’s what you considering flirting I’m a bit worried about you.
@@Kindredmagician-i5p thats just average genshin players when they see a normal interaction💀
The couple is arguing
couple fighting lol
Pov: my parents are fighting
My parents are arguing 😢
Oh no hope their still together and hope ur fine!
@@Anonymous193-w1oYour parents going through their divorce arc soon
Omg that's terrible 🥺
This was truly the most delicious Focallette moment
4.2 is all delicious Focallette moment❤
real the flirting moment when she calls him out for stalking her🤭
The whole archon quest screamed focallette. I don't know how people call focallette shippers creepy when they are already making it creepy.
@@Abduxalikovasabinathey cant accept this ship yet, cuz 'hetero ship'. Their people only believe mihoyo will only use or make bxb or gxg ship.
Real
I AM SO SORRY BUT I MISHEARD POISSON AS CROISSANT....
You're not alone lmao
ARE YOU GOING TO FINISH THAT CROISSANT
from fish to pastry
I wonder for thr Melsuin, did it look like mom and dad were fighting?
Her acting before she was revealed man this is sad!!
furina calling neuvi a stalker tho lmao
3:08 I can't believe some people fr have father-daughter hc about them even after when Furina said this to him. Like bro I am concerned about your relationship with your father if you believe that 💀💀💀💀
IKRRRR?!!! like a daughter make stalker jokes about her father??and say to him “I didn’t think you were that type “ it’s weird af!!
@@MavuikamybelovedYou’ve clearly never had a healthy relationship with your parents if you think that simple tone implies she meant it in a romantic context 😭 Daughters make jokes about their dads stalking them all the time, *I* do. Anyone with a normal healthy relationship with their parents would tell you especially how overprotective dads are of their daughters 😭
@@alcazarzaray
I didn’t mean that it should be romantic!! they are close friends more than “ father and daughter “
because neuvillette doesn’t see her as a child.
I’m talking about the relationship between the characters not irl !! like Furina is 500+ why would he watch her? she’s the hydro archon she doesn’t need anyone to look after her if she were a child it’s alright it’s not weird at all but she’s 500 she’s clearly an adult and also “ I didn’t know you were that type” I don’t think this is the way a daughter talks to her father.
And how can you judge my relationship with my parents and say that it is unhealthy when you do not know a single thing about me or my relationships just because of a comment I wrote about fictional characters?
Is your view that superficial? You judge a relationship you know nothing about just because of a comment? I have a good relationship with my parents and they are the best thing in my life and they care a lot about me and always protect me,and you come so easily and say it is unhealthy?! This is so superficial and really annoyed me.
Ikr lmao
@@alcazarzaray no tf we dont 💀💀💀
Oh thay abt to get a devorce
why was furina's hair glowing tho
She's a super saiyan bruh😂
She's so powerful her burst is up 100% of the time
because she is half of focalors? but since the hydro archon seat is destroyed, she lose her divinity, but that still makes her an archon, since archons are people who won the archon war
@@freshfrozen7612 yes ik but it should only be glowing if she uses her combat skills, not in a dialogue scene
Its her curse
Furina is so shameless😂😂😂in a positive way obvi and neuvis reactions being so outraged by suppressing himself🤭🤭🤭🤭 that was some high tension
Real like the tension…😂
Furina literally made a joke about Neuvillette being a stalker and even said "I didn't think you were that type" and they still insist that they are father and daughter 💀💀💀
I'm not saying you have to ship them, but it's really weird to treat them like father and daughter, brothers
In addition, Neuvillete never treated Furina like a kid and even less openly expressed seeing her as a kid.
They are atleast roughly the same age, which is nice and solidifies the dynamic they had during the quest.
Fr those ngas only say they're father and daughter all because Furina is short even though Neuvillette treats her as an adult
@@PeruvianPotato Fact
Treating them like father and daughter is weird.. I personally treat them like siblings though, bc they remind me of how siblings would act.
Slow-mooo.....
> 4:00
Divorce moment 😞✊
The really question is how he didn't notice she was faking being an archon all this time or that her personality is less mature than focalars something is off here
1. furina is alive and young for centuries
2. gods and archons specifically give off an aura as neuvilette said, furina had that. altho he had never taken a closer look at it, it felt off for him, he noted that thinking about it now, it felt like the aura of a curse, which makes sense considering what focalors did
3. he's not the type to go and test her through violent means, although that would have worked if he bothered💀
Venti, he is the perfect answer
to begin with neuvilette didn't met focalor before personally. so there's no point of thinking and comparing focalor and furina. right after focalor became hydro Archon she didn't introduced herself and already went to proceed to her plan
He did say in the trial that he did sense something from Furina, which he thought was her divinity, but it was her curse, as for abilities, he most likely didn’t question it because there was never a moment where she needed to use it
I guess it was not a curse. Furina body was pretty much the human body of a God, even if she is powerless, her divine self Focalors would still able to supply enough divine to keep her body forever young.
Furina body was likely divine enough to trick both Neuvillette and the Prophecy .
3:13
3:08 yummy laugh
They have the " father interogating her teenage daughter because she did something wrong" vibe to them
No
furina is in her rebellious phase i guess lmao
They do Not act like father and Daughter, like be fr
@@alexvasileva4297 eh, thats the vibe i get to the both of them in this cutscene(atleast the first half), but feel free to disagree, its just my opinion after all
y'all wouldn't act the same if both of them are males or females characters like for real just because they're male and female that doesn't mean they have to be father and daughter or siblings 💀
Furina just barking at Neuvi like Chihuahua vs Mastiff, Neuvillete would for sure mollywhopp Furina since she hasnt any power But he got alot of it😂
How people see this relationship as father daughter they're delusional I get if you don't ship them but calling them family 😂
Furina is my waifu!
And grass is what you shall touchu !
You smell
MINE!!!
Yeahh in my opinion neuvellete is kinda annnoyed
How can people See this scene as flirting or See sexual tension, Like how?!
It doesnt fit this whole Scene and both of the characters.
Furina Just Heard about the death of the people in Poisson, she is shocked, sad and Hurt that Something Like this happend and she couldnt do anything to protect them and still she Has to Play her role and Draw her Attention away from the questions Neuvillette gives her, because she can Not say anything. I am Not shure, but i think in this Moment she Has more important things in her head than to make a move on the Iudex.
And Neuvillette in this whole Scene is irritaded, angry and pissed of of her behavior. The only Thing on His mind right now, is how He can End the Prophecy and save and protect the people of Fontaine.
But shure "Whaaaat people died?! How horrible! Anyway perfect Timing for flirting"
And sexually tension? After Furinas "Type" comment, Neuvillette Sounds Like he wants to rip her head of.
Jeez, the "Wow. Whats your Secret? Let me guess" from Wriothesley sounded more flirtatious and spicy than this. Granted Not the best time to make a move on the Iudex either, but at least Neuvillettes respond then sounded that aggressive Like Here.
And calling Neuvillette a Stalker...yeah Sure of course. Soooo romantic a stalker
idk man that sounds like a lot of yapping for being in denial
you lost me when you compared this scene to something else 👍
@@castlescrumbled I am Not in denial, dont get me wrong i understand Neuvifuri and find it rather cute and fitting, especially after the Archonquest, when Furina can finally be herself and Neuvillette understands why she behaved Like she did. But seeing this Scene in a romantic way Just doesnt Work with me, Like i Said, it does Not fit the whole premise of the Scene and the characters, Like the Last lantern rite for example when they Met in Chenyu Vale or the Ending of the Archonquest, when Neuvillette tells us that He makes shure to Take Care of Furina.
If Hoyo wants to hint at Something, i am pretty shure they would find another more suiting time and Scene, considering that they are pretty good at there Queer Coding hints they do. Also with Neuvillette and Furina being a straight relationship they dont need to hint at all, after all straight relationships are Not regulated or censored by the Chinese goverment.
Or in short, whatever Neuvifuri or Wriolette, both of them are Not Canon, Not until Hoyo says so. There are only Things that can be interpreted in both ways
@@Sonnenschein404 people find that scene “flirty” as much as that other scene you compared it to. N & F’s argument sure is full of tension but others just choose to interpret more than that because that’s their kind of shipping lens. You know about the “Type” comment so I think you perfectly know why then why people have that shipping lens. Sure, english localization went insinuating “stalking”, but japanese and korean localizations of the same scene shaped it to where it is “I didn’t know you care for me” (it will show once you look up the kr/jp dialogues). But you didnt need to know that. Just saying that if you dont see NF that way thats fine because it’s a different pov than what shippers see. Ship whoever you like and dont bother people who enjoy a different headcanon than you. Because end of the day no ship is canon, and all hoyo does is give hints, not the real “confirmation” thing.
because she was acting. most people are not saying the the sexual tension was real. she was trying to make the situation less intimidating. however, the joke shows there's room between them to make flirtatious jokes, even though at that moment she was faking.
Ofc is always Wriollette shipper who say flirting is not flirting like That Was tensionate they are just jelous Wriothesley didn’t flirt with Neuvi and Furina did like bro shut uo
Bro is her dad fr
3:07 bro...
@@PeruvianPotato Nah Still..
Neuvilette = Father
Forcalor = Mother
Furina = Daughter
@@stylo4139 L + ratio + cope + did not read through the archon quest
@@castlescrumbled Do I Know You?
@@stylo4139 hmm i dont know, but do you know about Focalors and Furina as being the same person? Or did you skip the dialogue or not do the quest 😁
When the daughter and dad fights over her school grades
What
Ah yes and then the daughter pulls rank on the dad to shut him up, right? Yeah, no, weirdo
@@amberxv4777 TYSM MOOT
Nuevilette weird af he stalking her it’s weird
uhm? He didn’t. He was watching over her like her actions it’s not stalking! He’s just trying to protect the people of Fontaine and he wanted answers . STOP TWISTING THE SITUATION!?
@@noone-jl4prcalm down lol
Investigate and stalking are 2 different meaning
@@debutriah2854no they won’t and they don’t gotta
You say that like you are that oblivious to the lore😂