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    Southern Altai (also known as Oirot, Oyrot, Altai and Altai proper) is a Turkic language spoken in the Altai Republic, a federal subject of Russia located in Southern Siberia on the border with Mongolia and China. The language has some mutual intelligibility with the Northern Altai language, leading to the two being traditionally considered as a single language. According to modern classifications-at least since the middle of the 20th century-they are considered to be two separate languages. Due to certain similarities with Kyrgyz, it has been grouped as the Kyrgyz-Kipchak subgroup with the Kypchak languages which is within the Turkic language family.
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Комментарии • 154

  • @nenenindonu
    @nenenindonu Год назад +55

    The recent Chuvash comparison made this one feel like a Day 2 of the most distinct Turkic languages to Turkish challenge 😅

    • @barguttobed
      @barguttobed Год назад +15

      More likely it’s Turkish that is more distinct from original here rather than Altai

    • @XradRape1337
      @XradRape1337 Год назад +2

      Not correct

    • @devohkiP
      @devohkiP 6 месяцев назад

      @@barguttobedAltai is not the original. The original (Proto Turkic) doesn’t exist any longer and hasn’t existed for millenia now. Both Altai and Turkish have changed a lot since then. Altai is not the original

  • @TURANNATIONALISTAZARBAIJAN
    @TURANNATIONALISTAZARBAIJAN Год назад +27

    As an Azerbaijani I can understand Turkish 100% and Altai 65%

    • @ismailozkoparan1797
      @ismailozkoparan1797 11 месяцев назад +4

      ​​@@OurNomadicAncestor900BCENo Uul is son in Altai language. İn old Turkish ogıl (ogyl) and in modern Turkish oğul.
      He gave his son:
      İn old Turkish: Ogılınıg berti.
      Modern Turkish: Oğulunu verdi.
      Altai language: Uulyny bergen.
      Actually you didn't understand Altai language.

  • @jaetyler1
    @jaetyler1 Год назад +12

    plz do northern altai, the siberian turkic language, and southern altai, the kipchak language you have here :> great stuff

  • @DatBowlingGuy
    @DatBowlingGuy Год назад +38

    As a Turkish speaker these are the only words I could get from the Altai text:
    Uulyn bergen (Oğlun vermiş)
    Bolzyn dep (olsun diye)
    uchun (için)
    uluzyna (ulusuna)
    ogo (ona?)

    • @shirkhanaliev5794
      @shirkhanaliev5794 Год назад +9

      I'm an Azeri, I don't understand them 😁

    • @batu1132
      @batu1132 Год назад +18

      Kudai = Hüday = Tanrı= Tengere(altai laung.)

    • @Er-Eldey
      @Er-Eldey Год назад +4

      In fact, there are synonyms in the Altaic language. I think it's possible to make the languages ​​more similar like for example "Kudai" translate as "Teŋere"

    • @devohkiP
      @devohkiP 6 месяцев назад +4

      Literally every source you’ll find online will say that the Altai are a Turkic group not Mongolic + Where on earth does that text talk about mountains and sages? It’s an excerpt from the bible

    • @jojo-fr6fj
      @jojo-fr6fj 6 месяцев назад

      stop the cap​@@OurNomadicAncestor900BCE

  • @wasnt.here.3853
    @wasnt.here.3853 Год назад +4

    Glad you're finally going through the Turkic languages. Wish each language got a more in-depth video

  • @s.k.9110
    @s.k.9110 Год назад +51

    It’s so funny how the numbers are almost the same, but the text is almost totally different 😂

    • @yeldos
      @yeldos Год назад +11

      oglunu berdi = uulyn bergen

    • @SmokeyMountain0
      @SmokeyMountain0 10 месяцев назад +4

      Turks created empires,but altai people juat stood where they are already in,numbers are same because it is one of the main parts of a language.

    • @s.k.9110
      @s.k.9110 10 месяцев назад

      @@SmokeyMountain0 Oh okay 👍

    • @ConradGame
      @ConradGame 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@s.k.9110Turkeys Turkish is more modernised speaking. For example. I’m ethnically Turks but i was born and lived in Bulgaria. We do speak Turkish language but old version.

    • @s.k.9110
      @s.k.9110 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@ConradGame Ohh interesting 😮 ! Thank you 😁

  • @ALTAILAR
    @ALTAILAR Год назад +18

    Better Turkish translation I can give as a speaker of both languages:
    Ona inanan her kişi ölmeyip, sonsuz ömürlü olsun diye, Tanrı bu dünyanın ulusunu (insanlarını) önemsediği için tam yalnız (biricik) Oğlunu vermişti.

    • @SmokeyMountain0
      @SmokeyMountain0 10 месяцев назад +1

      Nobody speaks like this in turkey

    • @ALTAILAR
      @ALTAILAR 10 месяцев назад +6

      @@SmokeyMountain0 Of course, it's a translation that is not taken from the Turkish bible, rather a translation that shows the similarity of both languages.

    • @Adagioádá
      @Adagioádá 8 месяцев назад +1

      Enteresan, benzerliği görebiliyorum

    • @Cool_Paws_Official
      @Cool_Paws_Official Месяц назад

      Wait wait wait… how do you speak both languages??? Where did you learn it/ which one is your own language??? Please tell me😊 I want to learn Altai language A LOT🤘🏻🐺

  • @pirayesatirlari
    @pirayesatirlari Год назад +14

    sayılara kadar her şey tamam ama o metine gelince ne diyü bu dedim

    • @hilmiyldz7956
      @hilmiyldz7956 7 месяцев назад

      Hristiyanlik reklamı yapıyor

  • @MrAllmightyCornholioz
    @MrAllmightyCornholioz Год назад +3

    TENGRI BLESS THE SPEAKERS

  • @redbeard6251
    @redbeard6251 Год назад +7

    Altaic is closer to Kyrgyz than to Turkish

  • @randomvideos1699
    @randomvideos1699 Год назад +12

    Altai sounds like a mix of turkish and mongolian

    • @Jote_09
      @Jote_09 Год назад +13

      They are highly influenced by Mongolians in many ways

    • @randomvideos1699
      @randomvideos1699 Год назад

      @@Jote_09oh

    • @SmokeyMountain0
      @SmokeyMountain0 10 месяцев назад +4

      sounds like mongolian but the words and grammar is absolutely turkic

    • @randomvideos1699
      @randomvideos1699 10 месяцев назад

      @@SmokeyMountain0 yes

  • @Bu-Ha-No.2
    @Bu-Ha-No.2 Год назад +6

    Bashkir and Turkish, in the next time please.

  • @barguttobed
    @barguttobed Год назад +83

    Altai sounds better in my opinion.

    • @xfxpositions
      @xfxpositions Год назад +4

      İndeed

    • @Major.P210
      @Major.P210 Год назад +4

      ⁠nah Altai is just a cheap version of Turkey 🇹🇷

    • @Helghan_supremacy
      @Helghan_supremacy 11 месяцев назад +10

      Im a 🇹🇷 and I agree.

    • @merveaslan3603
      @merveaslan3603 11 месяцев назад +1

      Altay türk dilleri göre çok yumuşak değişik

    • @D.Baatar1998
      @D.Baatar1998 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Major.P210not be like Armenian

  • @Northern_altaituba
    @Northern_altaituba 3 месяца назад +1

    I am northern altai(tuba),can you make video aboit nortern altai's too?

  • @leonardoschiavelli6478
    @leonardoschiavelli6478 Год назад +30

    After this language, Turkic, Tungusic, Mongolic, Koreanic & Japonic families were once classified as the "Altaic" macrofamily of tongues.

    • @kamrankhan-lj1ng
      @kamrankhan-lj1ng Год назад +3

      Not after this language. But after the Altai mountains, the home to Mongolic and Turkic peoples.

  • @akjol.turatbek
    @akjol.turatbek 10 месяцев назад +13

    Тилибиз оп-окшош экен) Бар болгула туугандар! 👋

  • @wemovedto8.125
    @wemovedto8.125 11 месяцев назад +1

    Altai Official Cyrillic:
    Ого бӱткен кажы ла кижи ӧлбӧй, ӱргӱлји јӱрӱмдӱ болзын деп, Кудай бу телекейдиҥ улузына карузыган учун сок јаҥыс Уулын берген.

  • @thamielglaoui2595
    @thamielglaoui2595 Год назад +2

    🤓 incroyable la ressemblance

  • @Hamzachebbi137
    @Hamzachebbi137 Год назад +2

    Nice video 😍💪💪

  • @Er-Eldey
    @Er-Eldey Год назад

    Wasn't there a separate video about the Altai language here?

  • @ItzTocaJennifer_24
    @ItzTocaJennifer_24 Год назад +2

    But gave your hit the cat 😺😞

  • @SKITNICA95
    @SKITNICA95 Год назад +9

    Altaic is most conservative of all turkic languages?

    • @TNOfan4093
      @TNOfan4093 Год назад +10

      Seems so. It's kinda a living Latin of Turkic languages

    • @youknow8653
      @youknow8653 Год назад +2

      ​@@TNOfan4093 which language directly comes from latin ?

    • @pashazzubuntu
      @pashazzubuntu Год назад +3

      @Ferhat Sönmez Maybe Yakut? Since they have no arabic/persian influences at all. And Chuvash is too distant from Turkish.

    • @TNOfan4093
      @TNOfan4093 Год назад +3

      @@youknow8653 All Latin languages : Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, French, Romanian...

    • @jokemon9547
      @jokemon9547 Год назад +1

      @Ferhat Sönmez But how does one then explain the Indo-Iranian vocabulary in Finno-Ugric languages? If the Scythians among other Indo-Iranian classified people just to the south of Finno-Ugric speakers were actually Turkic, why are the words loaned from them not Turkic? And even though the Indo-Iranian vocabulary in Finno-Ugric is mostly older than the Scythians, how do you explain Indo-Iranians being there, being wiped out by Turkic Scythians, but then there also existing Greek writings of things like names which are similar to Ossetian, an Eastern Iranian language.

  • @alitok9564
    @alitok9564 2 месяца назад +1

    How come is that God in altai language Kudai like in persian and not Tengri ? In uzbek kyrgyz kazakh God is Allah ( arab ) or Kudai ( persian) and less used Tengri . Altai didn’t come into a close contacts with persian language. It makes me think Kudai is a turk word adopted into Persian . Any idea ?

    • @tsj8726
      @tsj8726 2 месяца назад +1

      As kazakh we also use Kuday, there is some evidense that iranian word kudai came even to the saha turkic people in north, dont forget than all turkic people once bordered with scythian iranic nomads

    • @sanzhar6399
      @sanzhar6399 Месяц назад +1

      Ask from persian invaders

    • @centralasia186
      @centralasia186 Месяц назад +1

      From kazakh language

    • @sanzhar6399
      @sanzhar6399 Месяц назад +1

      @@alitok9564 also we use тәңір tàňir

  • @Davlavi
    @Davlavi Год назад

    Nice.

  • @baybarssonmez6799
    @baybarssonmez6799 Год назад +8

    TURKS ARE THE KING OF THİS WORLD!🤘🇹🇷🇦🇿🇹🇲🇺🇿🇰🇿🇰🇬🇭🇺🇧🇬🇲🇳

    • @sggmy
      @sggmy Год назад

      It's joke?

    • @vpansf
      @vpansf 4 месяца назад

      Hungarians are not Turkish

    • @baybarssonmez6799
      @baybarssonmez6799 Месяц назад

      @@sanzhar6399 WHO ARE YOU PROF??!!!😂😂HUNGARY ARE KIPÇAK TURKS! THERE IS NOT FLAG OF TACİKİSTAN! ITS A FLAG OF BULGARIA! HOWEVER TACIKISTAN HAS 30% TURKS! YOU DUDE GO AND LEARN HISTORY!

    • @sanzhar6399
      @sanzhar6399 Месяц назад

      @@baybarssonmez6799 i know, the Hungarians are kipchak. Even my mom is kipchak and she told me about this

    • @sanzhar6399
      @sanzhar6399 Месяц назад

      @@baybarssonmez6799 i thought it was Tajikistan lol. Sorry i am blind

  • @moonman19
    @moonman19 Год назад +8

    Altay ı anlayamadım

    • @araskaya2172
      @araskaya2172 Год назад +10

      Çünkü onlar sibirya grubundan

    • @DatBowlingGuy
      @DatBowlingGuy Год назад +12

      Altay metnini tam anlayamıyor olsak da içinden bir takım ortak kelimeleri bulmak mümkün.

  • @georgitekhov8721
    @georgitekhov8721 Год назад +1

    Want to learn Altai Language ❤❤
    Who is a volunter to help me ? 😂❤
    I am From Georgia and Speak Russian so, we won't have a language barrier ❤❤😊

    • @ALTAILAR
      @ALTAILAR Год назад +1

      привет если у вас есть вк можем там поговорить. батый отуков

  • @Qwerka
    @Qwerka Год назад

    This video has zero dislikes. More likes than these Turkic language have in common.

  • @norabridget3838
    @norabridget3838 11 месяцев назад

    What is the diference between Telengits and altai kizhi . The brown fur hat is telengit right? I think altai languages are more to Kyrgyz than kazakh and culturaly the south altai people more close to the north central asia but pagan

    • @moony7144
      @moony7144 8 месяцев назад +1

      We are one people. But we have some regional differences. I am personally telengit. Telengits live in southern and eastern districts of Altai republic, when Altai kizhi live in western and central districts.
      Historically we were in different feudal organisations so we were divided since 18 century to 19 century. AK became russian subjects in 18 century. Telengits in 19 century.

    • @norabridget3838
      @norabridget3838 8 месяцев назад

      @@moony7144 Altai kizhi and telengits speak Different dialects ? The traditional clothes of Altai kizhi and telengits are the same or different? i mean the fur hat and those long hats wearing by women when i Google about the traditional clothes of Altai kizhi i didn't find much information about It the costumes was the same telengit traditional costume when i Google it how Different are the teleuts ,Chelkans tubalars and kumandins of Altai kizhi and telengits? The costume a conic hat with fur are Altai kizhi, Altai or other Altai ethnicity? i see photos and videos about Altai and i see some women wit a conic hat whit fur and braids are the telengits those Altais living in those Altai area with kazakh minority or zones near to kazakhstan ?

    • @moony7144
      @moony7144 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@norabridget3838 we speak in one language. Our traditional clothes are more or less same.
      There aren't telengits in Kazakhstan.
      Northern Altai people like tuba, chelkan and kumandi are different. Their traditional clothes are different , their language is different (southern Altai people (altai kizhiand telengits) don't understand their language). Their historically different people in any case. As for me they "became" Altai people through administrative way when our autonomy was created in Soviet time. Currently they barely exist because only old ones know their languages. They are mixed with Russians a lot. Their people sadly haven't future.😓
      I don't know a lot about teleuts. The are really few them. They live in different federal region. But i heard that they are in same situation like northern Altai people.

    • @norabridget3838
      @norabridget3838 8 месяцев назад

      @@moony7144 i thanks for clarify doubts i was refering in near kazakhstan border not in kazakhstan

    • @moony7144
      @moony7144 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@norabridget3838 there are Kazakhs in border but not with Kazakhstan. They live in Kosh-Agach district bordering with Mongolia. Their ancestors illegally migrated here in 19 century from current mongol territory. Tbh we have difficult relations with them.

  • @Karen-eo5yx
    @Karen-eo5yx Год назад +1

    As a Turk I don’t understand the text at all haha

  • @Can-vl8sl
    @Can-vl8sl Год назад +3

    Bunu hiç anlamadım.

  • @markus_park
    @markus_park Год назад +2

    Эзен!

  • @sot1susy-amogus
    @sot1susy-amogus Год назад +4

    1st again

  • @barguttobed
    @barguttobed Год назад +15

    The traditional clothing of Altai people resemble Mongolian one. Especially the male one, I can recognise the character wearing “Deel”.👍🏼

    • @kamrankhan-lj1ng
      @kamrankhan-lj1ng Год назад +8

      Altay people have similarities with Mongols in dress etc. But Tuvans have much more. They seem as if they are Mongols who speak a Turkic language!!

    • @youknow8653
      @youknow8653 Год назад +3

      Insecure mongol claiming altai TURKS lol

    • @yo2trader539
      @yo2trader539 Год назад +7

      Turks originate from South Siberia and Mongolian steppe and ruled the region, so it begs the question who influenced who. If I recall, around 20% of Mongolian vocab has proto-Turkic loanwords.

    • @zhambyljembekov
      @zhambyljembekov 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@OurNomadicAncestor900BCE"Son begotten" - "Ulyn bergen" in Kazakh language. So in Altai "Uulyn bergen" have the same meaning

    • @zhambyljembekov
      @zhambyljembekov 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@OurNomadicAncestor900BCE"Ul" - "Son" in Kazakh language, "Bergen" - "given or gave", from "ber" - give

  • @siyacer
    @siyacer 5 месяцев назад

    altaic

  • @ڕووداوڕاستیەکان
    @ڕووداوڕاستیەکان 9 месяцев назад +1

    Then turkish from mongolistan why not back in thire land what they are doing in middleeast ????

    • @eraywayne2165
      @eraywayne2165 5 месяцев назад +1

      What the fck are you talking about

  • @yirmialt2960
    @yirmialt2960 10 месяцев назад

    From Ur cıty of Sumer people get to north ... called that to place of they have new lıfe URAL.Sümer-Karaçay and north language ... menım alam ... benim balam ... AL ... Ur s sons ... Ural ... wıth people up ... populatıon ... nüfus ... AL s TAY ... son of horse ... Father was Ural ... Altay was son ... Ur AL TAY ... Sumer s 2 son ...

  • @hilmiyldz7956
    @hilmiyldz7956 7 месяцев назад

    Allah a oğul izaf edilemez

  • @Catalhayuokskaxtah
    @Catalhayuokskaxtah Год назад

    Çünkü Tanrı dünyayı o kadar çok sevdi ki, biricik oğlu'nu verdi. Öyle ki, o'na iman edenlerin hiçbiri mahvolmasın, hepsi sonsuz yaşama kavuşsun.

  • @mohamedkirgliz261
    @mohamedkirgliz261 Год назад +5

    I have Altay ancestry i look Mongoloid like Central Asians the Altay people in mountains resemble me and some Kazakh Kipchak Cumans and Hungarians who look Mongoloid i am ancestor of Byzantine Empire Türkic mercenaries i speak Greek language but i look nothing like Greek greetings from South Cyprus to the Altay Türkic people we are related and i can proof that

  • @mohamedkirgliz261
    @mohamedkirgliz261 Год назад +7

    Altay Türkic people are the true Huns the sons and daughters of Mete Khan and Attila the Hun there no other true Türkic people like them and the most pure Türkic people from all my grandparents are 100% exactly like them and my mother

    • @araskaya2172
      @araskaya2172 Год назад +4

      They are not the only real Turks, Turkiye turks, Chuvashs, Kazakhs are also Turks. There is no people who do not mix.

    • @mohamedkirgliz261
      @mohamedkirgliz261 Год назад +1

      @@araskaya2172 well i am mixed with Caucasoid i have almond eyes with Mongoloid features i believe i am 40-45 Mongoloid Türkic

    • @mohamedkirgliz261
      @mohamedkirgliz261 Год назад +1

      @@araskaya2172 you should help me explain to me why my ancestors look more Mongoloid then Türkish Cypriots and Türkmens who are related to the Ottomans and Seljuks it means my ancestors were full Mongoloid during Byzantine Empire they say my Great grandfather had small eyes Mongoloid and blonde hair and blue eyes full Asian

    • @mohamedkirgliz261
      @mohamedkirgliz261 Год назад +1

      @@araskaya2172 i resemble the Tibetans somehow shield face others think that i have Chinese ancestry but Cyprus the only Asians who come are the Türks they say Türkic people mercenaries come to Cyprus prior the Ottoman Empire there is proof i believe they mixed with the people here most in Cyprus are Caucasoid with only 44% Greek ancestry to the Greek Cypriots but not everyone has Greek ancestry most look Caucasoid West Eurasians and other Caucasoid

    • @araskaya2172
      @araskaya2172 Год назад +1

      @@mohamedkirgliz261 So why don't Chuvashs have slanting eyes? but they speak the oldest Turkic.

  • @Covington.mo_g66nig
    @Covington.mo_g66nig Год назад +1

    Бир

  • @Covington.mo_g66nig
    @Covington.mo_g66nig Год назад

    Altai Sound Like Mongolian