Spiked Mines, Carpet of Spikes & Perma-Spike - Axis of Factories
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- Starting on Round 9 with 1,185 cash, can we complete a game of CHIMPS with the Spiked Mines, Carpet of Spikes and Perma-Spike Spike Factories?
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It is true that on like round 300 the ddts are so fast they teleport past permaspike so you need to set it to normal so the spikes are more spread out
They don’t teleport but they are faster than the damage can be dealt so they pass through before all the damage from the pile is used up, and normal targeting doesn’t change this, it only changes it so the ceramics pop slightly earlier (if the ddt pops)
Somewhat knowing how Unity (the engine used to create BTD6) works, I'm pretty sure the computer calculates the DDT's previous position and the positions it theoretically would have gone without generating a frame where the DDT actually gets hit by the spikes. Not too sure about this one, tho, never tested.
For the record, like the previous reply, they do not teleport, they, as you mentioned, are just so damn fast lol
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I don't think it's that early, more like 500 or something, but I do know that happens at some point
I compiled the list of balance changes to Spike Factor from Version 35 onward. Here you go:
*(Nerf, V39) All Spike Factory spikes no longer can damage bloons for exactly 1 frame after being created from the spawning origin
*(Nerf, V36) Spiked Balls pierce reduced from 14 to 12
*(Buff, V35) Spiked Mines explosion radius increased 19 to 30
*(Buff, V37, V40) Spiked Mines spikes pierce increased 12 to 18; also affects Super Mines
*(Nerf, V37) Spiked Mines explosion pierce reduced from 40 to 30; does not carry over to Super Mines
*(Buff, V37) Spiked Mines napalm DoT damage increased 1 to 10
*(Buff, V38) T4/B1 Spiked Mines explosion blast radius: 30 to 40
*(Buff, V35) Super Mines small explosion radius increased 20 to 30
*(Buff, V35) Super Mines price reduced $150,000 to $125,000
*(Buff, V35) Super Mines DoT damage increased 500 to 1000
*(Buff, V35) Super Mines spikes ceramic bonus 20 to 30
*(Buff, V35) Super Mines mini explode ceramic bonus 10 to 15
*(Buff, V35) Super Mines big explode ceramic bonus 0 to 500
*(Buff, V37) Super Mines napalm DoT damage increased 1000 to 2500
*(Buff, V38) T5/B1 Super Mines large explosion blast radius 100 to 133
*(Buff, V39, V40, V41) MOAB SHREDR bonus damage to MOAB-class increased +4 to +7
*(Buff, V39, V40, V41) Spike Storm ability bonus damage to MOAB-class increased +4 to +7
*(Nerf, V41, V43) Spike Storm ability cooldown increased from 40s to 50s; also affects Carpet of Spikes
*(Nerf, V43) Spike Storm ability spikes duration reduced from 10s-13s to 9s-11s; Carpet of Spikes remains at 18s-22s
*(Buff, V43) M4/B1 Spike Storm duration bonus for ability spikes increased from 50% to 100%; Spike duration increased from 15s-19.5s to 18s-22s
*(Nerf, V43) Carpet of Spikes cost increased from $40,000 to $42,000
*(Nerf, V40) Carpet of Spikes main attack damage reduced 4 to 3
*(Buff, V35, V39, V40, V41) Carpet of Spikes bonus damage to MOAB-class increased +4 to +7
*(Buff, V35, V39, V40, V41) Carpet of Spikes ability bonus to MOAB-class increased +4 to +7
*(Buff, V38) Carpet of Spikes main attack gains +5 Pierce
*(Nerf, V39) Carpet of Spikes attack cooldown increased 0.33s to 0.49s
*(Buff, V43) M5/B1 Carpet of Spikes duration bonus for ability spikes increased from 50% to 100%; Spike duration increased from 27s-33s to 36s-44s
*(Buff, V38) Smart Spikes passive ability duration 2.5s to 3s
*(Buff, V43) Long Life Spikes cost reduced from $1400 to $1300
*(Nerf, V43) Deadly Spikes cost increased from $3500 to $3600 (same overall price, but may be relevant with B2 Village)
*(Nerf, V36, REVERTED V38) B5 Permaspike Pierce reduced 50 to 25
*(Nerf, V36, REVERTED V38) B5/T1 Permaspike Pierce reduced 90 to 45
*(Buff, V36, REVERTED V38) Permaspike Damage increased 10 to 15
*(Nerf, V38) Permaspike attack rate reduced 4.85 to 6.0625
*(Buff, V38) Permaspike start of round buff duration 2.5s to 10s
On Version 39, the MOAB Bonus was increased to +9 for all 3 of the middle primary path towers, so that is simply a dialed back buff. Cooldown reduction for Spike Storm can be a bit obnoxious to be sure, though. Lifespan is something I haven't taken TOO seriously. Price increase for CoS can be bothersome, but $2000 isn't an insane amount by the time you can afford it. CoS's main attack damage was actually 3 before Version 31, and was just random efficiency against Super Ceramics if you ask me, so I can live with it being sent packing. CoS pre-V31 also had a base attack cooldown of 0.98s, so having the base attack rate be reduced from tripled to doubled makes sense too. And CoS did still get a Pierce buff that can help bottom path given how it's still giving up DDT control. So I'm not too bothered by the balance changes when we still have something playable. Of course, I do think that if anything, M/B Spike Factory does need to be looked at for buff ideas to give it better Round 98 performance, not M/T being zapped for trivializing DDTs and the BAD.
I can especially point to this balance change making Version 37 as the benchmark Version to keep in mind:
*(Buff, V37) Spiked Mines napalm DoT damage increased 1 to 10
This is why Challenge ZFMXCAF would have become possible as early as Version 37. For context, this is a Challenge where only Etienne, Spiked Mines with Smart Crosspath, and Camo crosspath options with towers that aren't exactly paragons against Leads are available. The most important thing is the Spiked Mines usage, because the 30 total Damage from the burn effect is invaluable especially for Round 63, even with the explosion's Pierce nerf in the same version. Hit a pre-R81 Ceramic once with an explosion not too late into the track, and it's straight up dead with no further attacks needed. This is ultimately the final piece of the puzzle that is Round 63, as UCAV won't cover all 3 clusters and is even needed for the first 2 because of all the Leads, and the Black Bloons will further force the other activation uses just to poke those things and not leave the UCAV undermined. Now the Burn Damage can only add up if you hit different targets because it doesn't stack on the same target, but Ceramics tend to be fast enough that targeting the same position is bound to achieve results, so it still helps into the 80s and 90s. And if you're wondering, I like to target Smart to stockpile mines and then target Far or Close when bloons come by the locations covered by those. Long story short, FINALLY Spike Factory is better incentivized to be in an offense position for methodical attacking, and Striker Jones post-V41 becomes happy for this.
Where I'm going with this is how this is the sort of reason why MOAB SHREDR specifically has been left alone overall, because it actually has been undertuned and it has reason to care about Smart Spikes Targeting thanks to the MOABs' children not even caring about blimp bonus damage, so it's already supposed to be better for earlier in the track. Spike Storm is basically Flood Killer Activation: The Tier 4 Tower, and Carpet of Spikes still favors top crosspath a good deal and has that break Rounds 90, 93, 95, 99, and 100 utterly with that. Still, there's a reason why I simply suggest for Smart Spikes to provide its own activation of setting off the speedup, so that Spiked Mines and MOAB SHREDR can actually benefit from the crosspath and the added micro option reduces demand of the player to babysit the Smart Spikes Factory as well. Oh, and yes, move the speedup introduction to Long Range at a nerfed amount to make that upgrade more worth the bother while also reducing description bloat.
I trust you can let me know what you think?
Did you say wigrow bloons?😅
Love your vids❤
Wegwow Bloons
I love Flare so much.
i cannot hear anything but snagglepuss playin bloons
If only you could have gotten a BRF to flex the factory thing
This run goes out to those that spammed road spikes in the earlier BTD games.
Boltrix be like
Another good video bro I love your videos every time you make one I always. Try to be the first
My question is: are the balls of a hedgehog 🦔 called spiked balls?
First view wtffffff