doesn't change that he might have been politically radicalized by Bernie. Prob even moreso if he wasn't old enough to vote and try to impact it. Obviously it's all speculation and a complete guess unless more info comes out - but age doesn't prove or disprove anything.
I know. I have a son around the same age. Now I’m wondering about the parents. News says the dad bought the gun legally. I just wonder if they had any idea their kid had this in him - or if it was a complete shock.
@@lokimiguel2452 it’s completely nonsensical, but it of course works for the purpose, which is basically just spreading around BS constantly and completely obscuring what the actual motivation is. It doesn’t work on you and me, but we don’t matter. It’s for the vast bulk of aloof and politically low info voters who need to be persuaded to move off into directions that terrible people want them to move into. It’s basically just destroying objective truth, and making truth completely meaningless.
@@lokimiguel2452you don't have to have a time machine to know when there's going to be an election. And we pretty much knew Trump would be the nominee in 2022, at the very least it was looking very likely.
yeah he was antifa, its common practice for them to vote republican, except in the actual presidential election of course (they believe their votes are more powerful when weaponized as sabotage)
It's another example of how politically polarized the climate is and how people really have just abandoned this system that disenfranchised them. The system needs a massive change, or else this will keep happening. People are so desperate for any kind of "populism".
They voted for Trump as a middle finger to Bush, Obama and Hillary's lies and betrayals. They were denied the Ron Paul movement, so they took the gloves off and sent a bull into the china shop. What I would like to see is the disavowing of BLM, ANTIFA, and violence from the Left and a populist return to Occupy with focused demands... perhaps championed by Trump and RFK.
The suspect: - Donated $15 to ActBlue (progressive liberal charity) at 17 yrs - Registered as Republican voter when 18 yrs - Father registered as Libertarian - Mother registered as Democrat - Shoots at DJT Sr. on the campaign trail WHAT IS GOING ON
I think maimstream is just going with the flow with what is passed around online. I think the domation actualy came from the dad who has same name and confirmed dem. The fec form dosnt realy have a birthday in it of you manualy search the registry.
@@PraxesArdenn you know how i know that is a lie? Cuz if it did that would mean he would be 23 now. Donation is dared 2021 when he would be 17. But i looked it up again on the fec site and no age or bday is in the fec form
@@theyamo7219 heh, boy bands, the only thing worse than one hit wonders are boy bands, at least the hits were actually fun👍🤔😁just joking around, I’ve got everything from Benedictine monks to Taiko drums in my music library, someone looking at it would say “you have no idea what music to listen to, do you?” 😂jk
I love how we hear Republicans crying foul with people happy about all of this, yet they don't see the irony in that they celebrated the Paul pelosi situation.
Paul Pelosi was caught in his gay sexual acts and tried to hide it. Trump was almost killed last night. You are delusional to even think this. No republican is saying this. That echo chamber of yours must be very loud.
@@thehourman37I'd bet everything I have (which admittedly isn't much) on this being true. Particularly Russell Brand. Which is worse because at least Jimmy Dore believes the crap he says. Russell Brand is just a grifter using right wingers as a shield against sexual assault and grape accusations.
@@ah5440 Same reason why they refuse to accept the evidence of Jan 6, T's many crimes, the things we have T on tape saying, his multiple wives, his relation to ep's island, etc etc etc. They don't want to believe it because it clashes with their delusional idea of what T represents, and they ultimately dont care because they just want someone who hates who they hate.
This also means he registered as a republican immediately upon turning 18. So, it doesn't matter if he once donated $15 to a progressive institution. Someone literally could have done it in his name to troll him. That's absolutely a thing that happens.
@@Eruptflail I mean clearly if he shot at Trump he wasn't planning to vote for the guy and he never had. He allegedly (most likely) voted in the 2022 as a registered Republican. So was Cheney and the RINO or NeoCon she served with on the Lamuary Six committee.
It’s also very common for dems to register republican so they can vote in the republican primary. Democrats let you vote in the democrat primary even if you are registered republican, republicans require you to be registered republican, so if you are a dem or leftist in general you register republican to game the system and vote in both.
@@robertbcardozaexcept it’s not “very common” it’s rare. And I don’t know many (or any) dems who follow RUclips channels where the person who runs it actively supports anti democrat politicians
I'm not 100% convinced the ActBlue donation was actually him. The FEC filing only says "Thomas Crooks, PITTSBURGH, PA 15102". That zip code is over 33,000 people. Also, while I don't know if they enforce this, ActBlue states that they do not accept donations from minors.
It’s a suburb of Pittsburg. Most people use the name of the suburb, rather than the greater city area. Regardless we have to take a look at what media radicalized him so young. So far it looks like he liked guns (often watched an apolitical show about weapons)
@@PraxesArdenn That doesn't mean it was the attacker that made that donation. Again, Bethel Park is home to a lot of people and someone living in the area having the same name as the attempted assassin is not proof that they made the donation.
An sapphic ex of mine and I had loooong talks about progressive stuff for years. Open borders, legalize weed (and maybe other drugs), civil rights, etc. But we also bonded over gun rights. Years later, I found out she moved back to the South and donated directly to Trump's campaign. Absolutely bewildering.
The older I get, the more I appreciate blunt honesty and directness. Of course, there's a time and place for it. Some people use "telling it like it is" as an excuse to be an asshole, but that's not what I'm talking about.
@@CitrusPeppercorn Donated in Jan 2021. Registered as a Republican in September 2021 and never left. Was a huge gun nut too. Voted in the 2022 mid terms, likely for a Republican.
To those who say he couldn't be a republican cause he donated to a progressive pac, people's ideals can change. From 6th grade until graduated high school, I used to think I was conservative. Used to listen to talk radio when ever was helping dad on the farm. Guys like Rush, Hannity, O'Riley, ect. It wasn't until end of high school where I started really paying attention to what these host were actually saying where I realized I wasn't a conservative. It also helped when got to collage where met people of different lifestyles than the predominantly white catholic area grew up realize more that wasn't republican as thought.
@@michawhite7613If their algo is like YT I'm guessing they liked one comedy video featuring an edited or AI Right-winger, so now they're being fed the worst stuff.
I saw someone say that it's dei's fault for hiring a secret service woman who's shorter than him(the one who ducked her head down) using the picture of him pushing past ss to for that one photo (apparently they were going down the stairs so she was looking at that likely)
@@dynamicworlds1 The evidence is that there is an older person by the same name who could just as easily have made the donation. Considering the shooter was not even 18 by the time of the donation it's not very likely they were the one behind it. But it's not a sure thing rn.
The big "Bernie Bro" push was during the 2020 election. Yunno, when Biden pivoted his platform to the left and promised he'd forgive student loans BECAUSE Bernie was so popular? Dude was 16 back then, which checks out with him then spiralling down the black pill drain.
Mmm....yeah the far right/right/whatever will believe what they want. But this dude being a right winger helps the lefty spaces because now the whole "ahhh! The woke left is trying to off our god!" Loses steam immediately. Yeah the Trump base will become more zealous. But this might create more infighting on the right which is good for the left.
Mmm... The Trump base will become more fanatical yeah, but the dude being right leaning or whatever is good for the left in the short and long run. Yeah they'll run with whatever narrative, but it loses a lot more steam than if the dude had been a lefty. This could create more in fighting amongst themselves for idk who are the actual loyalists or something.
Right he's a total dick hole. There was a video in my feed that says "if you have anger issues, I hate you" have some self awareness bro, you clearly have anger issues
Act Blue is the organization that handles online donations for almost all Democrats. If you donated to Bernie OR Biden, you made a payment to Act Blue.
I don't see any evidence for that, all the news sides still say he donated the 15 dollars, so I would be curious about your source for that. Or did you just make that up? And minors are allowed to donate, according to the Federal Election Commission: "An individual who is under 18 years old may make contributions to candidates and political committees, subject to limitations, if: - The decision to contribute is made knowingly and voluntarily by the minor; - The funds, goods or services contributed are owned or controlled by the minor, proceeds from a trust for which he or she is a beneficiary or funds withdrawn by the minor from a financial account opened and maintained in his or her name; and - The contribution is not made using funds given to the minor as a gift for the purpose of making the contribution, and is not in any way controlled by another individual."
@@Kuhmuhnistische_Partei that was part of the Faux News initial rhetoric they “found”. It wasn’t the shooter who donated that money. It was a different person with the same name. The person who made that donation lived at an address the shooter never lived at.
The fact that this guy is three months younger than me is so depressing. Didn’t think 5 years ago that anyone my age or older would get this radicalized .
No. The person who started that was wrong. The donation matches the zip code for the shooter, same for the republican registration. The guy who "debunked" it was confused that Bethel Park is located in the greater Pittsburgh area and didn't look at the zip codes.
A lot of people are pointing out his donation to a progressive group 3.5 years ago, but that was when he was 16 or 17. I have a feeling he was a libertarian or centrist.
Who donated to democrats All we know is he was registered Republican (in PA where state primaries are closed and in the context of democrats explicitly telling their followers to register republican to boost haleys primary numbers), and that he liked guns. Liking guns is not mutually exclusive to conservatives. You know who else lies guns? Leftists. It's only liberals and the centre-left that are anti gun
He's not putting any blame on Bernie dummy. Better your comprehension skills and actually listen to the claim being made, instead of reacting to individual words you hear.
Has that been confirmed? Can't find a source for that. I'm not saying you're wrong, just the most recent reporting I find on that is from Reuters, less than an hour ago, and they're still saying he was the one who donated
@@guillaumelagueyte1019 Not 100% confirmed. However, if you check the fec website, you can find the donation yourself. It's reported from Pittsburgh and not Bethel Park. Now, Bethel Park is in the Metropolitan area, but there is currently no reason he would use Pittsburgh and not Bethel Park as his mailing address (donations from Bethel Park are possible). In addition, Thomas crooks is a relevantly common name and there are others in the area.
@@guillaumelagueyte1019 Not 100% confirmed. However, on the Federal Election Commision the donation referenced by the media is one made by a thomas crooks from Pittsburgh. There is no reason as of yet why he would use put Pittsburgh as his mailing address (Bethel Park is a possible option). Edit: The zip code listed on the donation does overlap with Bethel Park and matches the released voter registration for the shooter
He was apolitical when it came to internal US politics, aka he didn't care about JFK as JFK the politician, he only cared that JFK was the US president at the time.
Bro I didn't even know this channel was a thing but I LOVE your takes. I came over from the Hasanabi show. Some different views but mostly the same. Thank you for shining a light on the susceptibility of young, socially awkward young men ESPECIALLY from the failed Bernie movement that are now radical right. This is SUCH a problem.
@@otakugamer616 While their politics generally align, Vaush and Hasan are very different, especially when it comes to foreign policy like Ukraine and China. Vaush is a lot more level-headed, while Hasan veers a bit too much into the "US bad" mindset.
Someone on Twitter made the speculation that the $15 bet on inauguration day could just be paying a bet. Nothing other than speculation but that kinda makes the most sense to me. We'll see what comes out.
Does Vaush just scream at chat now? Is that all his stream is these days? Between that, judging people for their appearances and some god awful takes. As much as I used to really enjoy Vaush... I'm finding it hard to listen anymore. Sorry Vaush, I still wish you and your viewers all the best in life. (And your cats, of course.)
Vaush seemingly hates everyone and the way they look and he has no empathy for their individual or group struggles in life….but he is totally a socialist who loves the people though and wants to see us come together? 😉claiming to be a socialist is a great way to hide what a smug hateful person you are. Vaush is basically a sassy gay man pretending to be a bi guy who is great with women and not an incel.
Agreed. I’ve been put off by his reactionary vibes like that for a while. It’s a shame because I admired him as a rhetorician in years past. But for months now, I’ve been hearing a lot of thoughtless language from his Sociology-major mouth (and don’t even get me started on his messy “defense” of THAT controversy of his), and that honestly hurts for me to even say. To be fair, though, to address your first couple questions, yelling at chat has been a mainstay of his channel since day one. I know because I’ve followed his content since 2019. Sometimes it’d be comedic, sometimes it’d be cringe - if that makes sense.
@@ConradAlumni I genuinely expected hate and disagreement from this comment. I know he's yelled at chat since forever, but it feels like he does it a lot more lately. More angrily for sure. The last stream I was in chat for, he was telling trans women to try harder to look less like men... Like... That stings. A lot. It's not exactly easy. I can't tell if he was joking or not, but honestly... it doesn't matter to me. Between that and constantly putting people down for their appearances or how they dress. It's just not a fun stream anymore.
@@LaylaSpellwind I’m sorry he made you feel that way. Yeah, it’s a real shame to hear incendiary takes like that from him whenever I’m looking forward to hearing actual productive political analysis and insight instead whenever I’m tuning in to his streams. Plus, irresponsible rhetoric like that from him is just going to alienate more people from progressivism in the political landscape. Watching him lately hasn’t been fun for me either, I understand.
@@ConradAlumni I tried to watch his new video talking about Trumps VP choice, but for ages he just kept railing on the guys appearance. I wanted to hear about the person, not what he looked like. There will be some genuinely good people out there who just happen to look like the guy. Very lame.
From CNN, updated an hour ago: "But CNN interviews with more than a half-dozen former classmates and neighbors of Crooks painted him as quiet, with classmates remembering him as a good student and something of a misfit in high school. And a review of public records suggests he may have had divergent political leanings, with Crooks registering to vote as a Republican but making a small donation to a Democratic-leaning group."
@@icecoldnut5152 Nobody admitted anything of the like, Vaush lover. I said it makes sense given where he lives because Norwegians don’t know what Fascism is. Go ask the Danes how they’ll feel about of Norwegian Saying that. The fact that you somehow thought I was agreeing with you is clear evidence of your lacking IQ, a common trait among the TDS populace.
@@icecoldnut5152 Like I don’t think you understand the joy that comes from you unironically thinking I was agreeing with you. 😂 Can you say “Dumb” for me 10 times fast?
i'm pretty sure forgotten weapons Ian McCollum is a progressive. But that is the only left wing gun youtuber i can think of. Edit: Clarification. His content is apolitical but privately he is progressive.
The Dragon Combat Club is an NYC-based gun and self-defense group that I found on Instagram that’s also left-leaning. Their goal is to assist Asian Americans in learning how to defend themselves. They’re mainly a face to face group, though.
And the way that the guntube community works, he could never openly own his progressive beliefs if he actually was progressive, because he knows what would happen to his channel. Being that the entire gun ecosystem on RUclips is far right. People like donut operator and GarandThumb can just be openly fascist and white nationalist on social media, and face absolutely zero consequences. But if you even slightly hint that you’re progressive, you and your channel are absolutely effed.
I'm a registered Republican so that I can vote against Trump in the primaries. I'm far-left politically. Voter registration does not tell us anything useful. We need loads of context to even begin to speculate.
@@aezvetyshe watched a lot of accelerationist content i assume is what they mean. You know when ben shapiro or charlie kirk goes on stage and talks about how the left is taking over and _someone_ _has_ _to_ _do_ _something!_ . Meaning he watched a lot of content that urged violent political action
It is confirmed to be Thomas Matthew Crooks with Bethel Park zip code. Bethel Park is a suburb of Pittsburgh in the same county, so BP is considered the broader Pittsburgh area.
@@6z0 unless he lied about his age ActBlue would've rejected his donation since he would've been 17 when he made it. There is a Thomas Crooks in Pittsburg who is a registered democrat who is 69 years old. I find it more likely that the older man who is a registered democrat would've made that donation rather than a 17 year old kid who registered republican the first chance he got.
@@3536mj Registering as a republican means nothing. I am a registered Democrat and I have voted republican in many elections. It is confirmed by authorities that he is the one who made the donation… that is why news sources are saying he made it.
@dr.osterman8158Not sure if primaries show up on your "last voted" since they are internal to the parties themselves Of course the 2022 election had primaries also
Wasn’t trump a registered democrat till three years before he ran? Yah he was a registered democrat for more than 8 years of the 2000s. “ Who Can Vote in a Primary Election? In Pennsylvania, you can only vote for the candidates in the same political party you have named in your voter registration.” So he could have registered Republican, in order to vote against trump in the primary, then he could vote for whoever in the general election.
From CNN, updated an hour ago: "But CNN interviews with more than a half-dozen former classmates and neighbors of Crooks painted him as quiet, with classmates remembering him as a good student and something of a misfit in high school. And a review of public records suggests he may have had divergent political leanings, with Crooks registering to vote as a Republican but making a small donation to a Democratic-leaning group."
What the actual fuck is even happening at this point
Comedy.
It’s almost like no one is in control.
The left is losing their collective hive mind. This is only surprising to people who aren't paying attention.
We live in a south park episode
@@MA-jn7rd We live in Star Trek's mirror universe and this is how the Terran Empire started.
Guy was literally 20 years old, he was 16 during 2020 election. He was in middle school during 2016 election.
Middle school at 16? lol. Okay he’s definitely a leftist then
doesn't change that he might have been politically radicalized by Bernie. Prob even moreso if he wasn't old enough to vote and try to impact it. Obviously it's all speculation and a complete guess unless more info comes out - but age doesn't prove or disprove anything.
What? 16 in middle school? Shouldn't he have been in 2nd year of high school at the age of 16?
@@zerofudou568916 during 2020 election, in middle school during 2016 election (12 because thats 4 years before 2020)
@@zerofudou5689Your math says that you are a registered Democrat. 😂😂😂😂
I like what Vaush said but i feel like a furry trans girl wouldn't miss.
she wouldn't
Which color would the scopes tint be in?
@@uninstaller2860bifocal
@@uninstaller2860 Lime green with zebra stripes, a la early 2000s scene hair
@@uninstaller2860optical sights are so old school, computerized ‘hello kitty’ laser sight…
20 years old? Jesus christ he was basically a teenager
I know. I have a son around the same age. Now I’m wondering about the parents. News says the dad bought the gun legally. I just wonder if they had any idea their kid had this in him - or if it was a complete shock.
Too old for Trump. He likes 'em young, after all, or resembling his daughter Ivanka.
@catsmom129 Does nobody own a fucking gun safe ????
@@leosklein2573 I don't own a gun, hence no gun safe.
@@arcturionblade1077nah, he's not showering age
So he was politically illiterate, got it.
He was 12 when trump got elected
@@Kissingerzones1311 bruh that makes me feel old
Realest comment I read today
He also donated 1.5k to a Democratic thinktank
@@htes-ng9ul 15.00
if its revealed that he registered so he could vote for DeSantis, only for Trump to win the nomination; it would be too convenient
The right wing talking point now is that he did it to vote for Haley in the Republican primary, as a progressive that was trying to screw up the GOP.
@@lylewalker5681 even though he registered years ago lol
@@lokimiguel2452 it’s completely nonsensical, but it of course works for the purpose, which is basically just spreading around BS constantly and completely obscuring what the actual motivation is. It doesn’t work on you and me, but we don’t matter. It’s for the vast bulk of aloof and politically low info voters who need to be persuaded to move off into directions that terrible people want them to move into.
It’s basically just destroying objective truth, and making truth completely meaningless.
@@lokimiguel2452you don't have to have a time machine to know when there's going to be an election. And we pretty much knew Trump would be the nominee in 2022, at the very least it was looking very likely.
yeah he was antifa, its common practice for them to vote republican, except in the actual presidential election of course (they believe their votes are more powerful when weaponized as sabotage)
It's another example of how politically polarized the climate is and how people really have just abandoned this system that disenfranchised them. The system needs a massive change, or else this will keep happening. People are so desperate for any kind of "populism".
Real
They voted for Trump as a middle finger to Bush, Obama and Hillary's lies and betrayals. They were denied the Ron Paul movement, so they took the gloves off and sent a bull into the china shop. What I would like to see is the disavowing of BLM, ANTIFA, and violence from the Left and a populist return to Occupy with focused demands... perhaps championed by Trump and RFK.
Hate to say it and be the guy but this channel and youtuber is not one known for promoting it's viewers with non radicalised perspectives
@@a.r.h9919so go away and be a non-radical somewhere else
@@TangWuSnake is it a cardinal sin that struck a nerve to mention the obvious to anyone that takes 5 minutes to see ?
I had a republican tell me he was a democrat because he donated $15 once before registering and voting as a republican lmao
@@BryanTS90 link?
@@BryanTS90that guy is fake
@@IrrelevantPrideproven fake already. Different person
@@BryanTS90 theyre already spreading disinformation
@@BryanTS90nope. And he didn’t donate $15 to democrats. Was someone with the same name. Different address that the shooter never lived at.
The suspect:
- Donated $15 to ActBlue (progressive liberal charity) at 17 yrs
- Registered as Republican voter when 18 yrs
- Father registered as Libertarian
- Mother registered as Democrat
- Shoots at DJT Sr. on the campaign trail
WHAT IS GOING ON
Confused kid is confused, probably🤔
I think maimstream is just going with the flow with what is passed around online. I think the domation actualy came from the dad who has same name and confirmed dem. The fec form dosnt realy have a birthday in it of you manualy search the registry.
@philmienus2382 It lists age though, as 20.
Didn’t the person the donated $15 to act blue have the same name but different address?
@@PraxesArdenn you know how i know that is a lie? Cuz if it did that would mean he would be 23 now. Donation is dared 2021 when he would be 17. But i looked it up again on the fec site and no age or bday is in the fec form
You are telling me that a shooter was a republican and a fan of a gun youtube channel? You are trolling
I %100 thought this was going to be a crazy lefty, the fact they are a rightwinger is to funny to be true, this has to be a troll
Karma is either trolling or getting ironic?! Sarcastic? Wut? I’m confused! I need to ask Alanis Morissette to explain irony to me!🤔😏
Don't ask her, she thinks having 10 thousand spoons when all you need is a knife is ironic 😂@@IndyAvocadoKid
Or maybe they were trying to make Trump a martyr? His base is now even more on his balls than ever
A Republican donating to ActBlue. Lmfaoooooooo you people will do anything to shift blame away from left wing political violence.
I hate the 2020's.
Yeah, 80s music is way better!🤔😏jk
We've been living in a story concocted by The Onion since 2016 at least.
@@IndyAvocadoKid 90s music was the best...well aside from the boyband shit
@@theyamo7219 heh, boy bands, the only thing worse than one hit wonders are boy bands, at least the hits were actually fun👍🤔😁just joking around, I’ve got everything from Benedictine monks to Taiko drums in my music library, someone looking at it would say “you have no idea what music to listen to, do you?” 😂jk
@@theyamo7219oh yeah, better add a disclaimer that you don’t like that icky girly stuff for girly girls
I see some people online saying that he was “only a registered republican for 2 years, seems sus”. Bro he was only able to start voting two years ago.
I love how we hear Republicans crying foul with people happy about all of this, yet they don't see the irony in that they celebrated the Paul pelosi situation.
Short term memory is really short, goldfish are enjoying this fact….
Irony is lost on edjits.
Paul Pelosi was caught in his gay sexual acts and tried to hide it. Trump was almost killed last night. You are delusional to even think this. No republican is saying this. That echo chamber of yours must be very loud.
@IndyAvocadoKid And selective outrage.
@@cs-zz7jdThey really should avoid selective outrage, selective pizza is much better tasting👍😏
FBI a few years back: "We are looking into this gang, we believe they are called 'N-Cell'"
known collaborator with the notorious hacker, 4chan.
Isn't it strange there's no W-Cell? Typical racist liberals.
💀💀💀
This sounds like a running gag from a South Park episode.
A Bernie bro who went full Republican? Oh, so he’s a Jimmy Dore fan.
I almost guarantee he was subbed to Dore, and Russel Brand
@@thehourman37I'd bet everything I have (which admittedly isn't much) on this being true. Particularly Russell Brand. Which is worse because at least Jimmy Dore believes the crap he says. Russell Brand is just a grifter using right wingers as a shield against sexual assault and grape accusations.
@@thehourman37 that makes the most sense......
Maybe. But it looks like the person who made the donation wasn't even the same person.
@@khrishp yep his name is very common.
His name is literally Crooks lmao
Hillary connection confirmed 😜
The scriptwriters need to do better smh
Trump means fart in UK
The simulation is running in power saving mode
I'm not a crook!
Aaaaaand no one on Trumps side is gonna believe this!! Horraaaaaayyy.....
Even if they do believe they can always pretend they don't believe it.
@@yuomovaeh3028 ah yes the power of cope
@@ah5440 "it's a sciop!" "No one who'd like trump would shoot trump!" "The Cia are LIARS they don't like trump!"
@@ah5440 Same reason why they refuse to accept the evidence of Jan 6, T's many crimes, the things we have T on tape saying, his multiple wives, his relation to ep's island, etc etc etc. They don't want to believe it because it clashes with their delusional idea of what T represents, and they ultimately dont care because they just want someone who hates who they hate.
@@ah5440Haven't been following political rhetoric and trends at all for the past decade, huh?
This also means he registered as a republican immediately upon turning 18. So, it doesn't matter if he once donated $15 to a progressive institution. Someone literally could have done it in his name to troll him. That's absolutely a thing that happens.
I heard that it’s actually mistaken identity. The donor is a different person with the same name.
@@Eruptflail I mean clearly if he shot at Trump he wasn't planning to vote for the guy and he never had. He allegedly (most likely) voted in the 2022 as a registered Republican. So was Cheney and the RINO or NeoCon she served with on the Lamuary Six committee.
@@irenafarm The person that donated was registered on the same address as the shooter.
It’s also very common for dems to register republican so they can vote in the republican primary. Democrats let you vote in the democrat primary even if you are registered republican, republicans require you to be registered republican, so if you are a dem or leftist in general you register republican to game the system and vote in both.
@@robertbcardozaexcept it’s not “very common” it’s rare. And I don’t know many (or any) dems who follow RUclips channels where the person who runs it actively supports anti democrat politicians
So the plot thickens!
Ah a fellow randy feltface enjoyer
@@niclaswerther1569 I love randy felt face but that was a saying before he was around
Bro looked like that RUclipsr 💀
God is just trolling us at this point
edit: don't read into this too deeply neckbeards
Do you believe in evil?
What god? Who's god, there are hundreds of gods currently being worshipped by fools.
I'm convinced now we are a simulation
@@angelahall4402 whose*
@@angelahall4402 You know what they mean. Don't act dumb. I'm an atheist but I hate acting dumb like this.
I'm not 100% convinced the ActBlue donation was actually him. The FEC filing only says "Thomas Crooks, PITTSBURGH, PA 15102". That zip code is over 33,000 people. Also, while I don't know if they enforce this, ActBlue states that they do not accept donations from minors.
Bethel Park is inside of Pennsylvania
It’s a suburb of Pittsburg. Most people use the name of the suburb, rather than the greater city area. Regardless we have to take a look at what media radicalized him so young. So far it looks like he liked guns (often watched an apolitical show about weapons)
@letsomethingshine Yes but 15102 is Bethel Park
@@PraxesArdenn ...in which 33,000 people live. As I said.
@@PraxesArdenn That doesn't mean it was the attacker that made that donation. Again, Bethel Park is home to a lot of people and someone living in the area having the same name as the attempted assassin is not proof that they made the donation.
An sapphic ex of mine and I had loooong talks about progressive stuff for years. Open borders, legalize weed (and maybe other drugs), civil rights, etc. But we also bonded over gun rights. Years later, I found out she moved back to the South and donated directly to Trump's campaign. Absolutely bewildering.
I will never understand LGBT supporting the party that would hang them all if they could get away with it -.-
@@WalterWhite-jz7ct"they won't do it to me! I'm one of the good ones, not one of those bluehaired freaks"
@@krystalneko4094 Yeah, exactly what they gon be shouting as they walk to the camps
The Ernst Röhm effect.
@@WalterWhite-jz7ctBlaire White and Dave Rubin are absolutely confounding humans.
He donated after the insurrection. He was possibly upset about that. Not all republicans are pro Trump.
Vaush: “I’m not trying to be mean.”
Also Vaush: “He was an ugly little incel loser with no social life.”
😂
@@JamieAlice92 sometimes the truth hurts even if you don’t want it to.
I think thats irony, or sarcasm, or wut?!😂
The older I get, the more I appreciate blunt honesty and directness.
Of course, there's a time and place for it. Some people use "telling it like it is" as an excuse to be an asshole, but that's not what I'm talking about.
Wut, Vaush just spitting facts, bruh
Dude have you looked in the mirror lately, get some sun too.
Registered Republican - Donated Democrat
Too young to even vote in the last presidential election i might add
Last election was in 2022
@@CitrusPeppercorn Donated in Jan 2021. Registered as a Republican in September 2021 and never left. Was a huge gun nut too. Voted in the 2022 mid terms, likely for a Republican.
@@CitrusPeppercornhe said “last presidential election”
@@evanshannon he edited it.
Vaush instantly giving him a full Miss Cleo reading ignoring the *only* information you can be sure of- his age
My hypothesis is that it could be related to the Epstein leaks recently.
my first thought
Recently? Wasn't Trump confirmed to be in the black book since Epstein's incarceration?
The kid may have been one of the 4 total republicans on earth who believed those files.
To those who say he couldn't be a republican cause he donated to a progressive pac, people's ideals can change. From 6th grade until graduated high school, I used to think I was conservative. Used to listen to talk radio when ever was helping dad on the farm. Guys like Rush, Hannity, O'Riley, ect. It wasn't until end of high school where I started really paying attention to what these host were actually saying where I realized I wasn't a conservative. It also helped when got to collage where met people of different lifestyles than the predominantly white catholic area grew up realize more that wasn't republican as thought.
Yea my tiktok fyp is like 70% maga blaming everyone from the left to the secret service
Why does your tiktok fyp include maga content?
Well it was obviously the secret service. Maybe the left but need to see evidence of this
@@michawhite7613If their algo is like YT I'm guessing they liked one comedy video featuring an edited or AI Right-winger, so now they're being fed the worst stuff.
@@michawhite7613they probably “engage with the content” by arguing or just watching those kinda of videos.
I saw someone say that it's dei's fault for hiring a secret service woman who's shorter than him(the one who ducked her head down) using the picture of him pushing past ss to for that one photo (apparently they were going down the stairs so she was looking at that likely)
So a Jimmy Dore fan. 👀
Edit: And maybe even a “Civil War” Tim Pool fan. 👀👀
Lmao
Oh man, someone get Sam Seder on the phone. This one I got to see.
Dore supported Tulsi in 2020 lmaoo. Also, the donation seems to be from a different person with the same name in the same town.
@@the0ne809do you have a source on the last bit?
@@dynamicworlds1 The evidence is that there is an older person by the same name who could just as easily have made the donation. Considering the shooter was not even 18 by the time of the donation it's not very likely they were the one behind it. But it's not a sure thing rn.
Cant be a Bernie bro if he's only 20 rn. He would've been like 12
The window didn't close 8 years ago
Bernie is evergreen.
Bernie ran in 2020 so he would have been 16 for that, which is when people start gaining political awareness
12 year olds never develop political opinions /s
The big "Bernie Bro" push was during the 2020 election. Yunno, when Biden pivoted his platform to the left and promised he'd forgive student loans BECAUSE Bernie was so popular? Dude was 16 back then, which checks out with him then spiralling down the black pill drain.
You have to register as a republican in Pennsylvania to be able to vote in the republican primary.
Isn't that true of every state?
man the script writers are on fire this season
Some of these ppl don't get it: there are democrats, republicans and then there's MAGA.
No ppl don't get it. There are Gamers and then there are Politicals.
That’s so Skibiti Rizz toilet bro
I feel like MAGA is overlapping heavily with more moderate conservatives these days.
Please, most Republicans support Trump. Not all ,but most. Stop trying to conveniently make up another party.
Republicans are for all intends and purposes synonymous with MAGA.
This is gonna be a nightmare for us going forwards…
Is right wing in fighting really going to make life hard for anyone left of center right?
Mmm....yeah the far right/right/whatever will believe what they want.
But this dude being a right winger helps the lefty spaces because now the whole "ahhh! The woke left is trying to off our god!" Loses steam immediately.
Yeah the Trump base will become more zealous. But this might create more infighting on the right which is good for the left.
@@sunnohhright wingers don’t think like that. They’re going to blame the left for this and one of them might want to retaliate
@@sunnohh Yes, because they still can hurt you regardless...
Mmm...
The Trump base will become more fanatical yeah, but the dude being right leaning or whatever is good for the left in the short and long run.
Yeah they'll run with whatever narrative, but it loses a lot more steam than if the dude had been a lefty.
This could create more in fighting amongst themselves for idk who are the actual loyalists or something.
Vaush and his abusive relationship with his chat.
Right he's a total dick hole. There was a video in my feed that says "if you have anger issues, I hate you" have some self awareness bro, you clearly have anger issues
Somebody with the same name donated $15 when he was too young to donate and in a different city. I don't think the donation came from the shooter.
Bro looks like the kind of dude who told his friend "don't come to the rally tomorrow"
Act Blue is the organization that handles online donations for almost all Democrats. If you donated to Bernie OR Biden, you made a payment to Act Blue.
Maybe he changed his mind…. Maybe he had a strange fixation. Lots of maybes still.
Somehow, I'm not surprised.
Registered Republican but donated to ACT Blue... Did Vaush mention that?
Somehow, Palpatine returned…
@@ComicXanzthe Rise of Skywalker is more realistic at this point.
He didn't donate 15 dollars, it was a different person. He couldn't donate at that age.
Minors can technically donate
He couldn't donate 8 months prior to him registering as a Republican at the age of 19/20? Wtf are you talking about?
@@lokimiguel2452maybe but the donation was made by a different person who lived at a different address. It’s confirmed already it wasn’t the shooter.
I don't see any evidence for that, all the news sides still say he donated the 15 dollars, so I would be curious about your source for that. Or did you just make that up? And minors are allowed to donate, according to the Federal Election Commission:
"An individual who is under 18 years old may make contributions to candidates and political committees, subject to limitations, if:
- The decision to contribute is made knowingly and voluntarily by the minor;
- The funds, goods or services contributed are owned or controlled by the minor, proceeds from a trust for which he or she is a beneficiary or funds withdrawn by the minor from a financial account opened and maintained in his or her name; and
- The contribution is not made using funds given to the minor as a gift for the purpose of making the contribution, and is not in any way controlled by another individual."
@@Kuhmuhnistische_Partei that was part of the Faux News initial rhetoric they “found”. It wasn’t the shooter who donated that money. It was a different person with the same name. The person who made that donation lived at an address the shooter never lived at.
sorry vaush, that was a different guy with the same name in his 60s
Its joever people tump won elections i geuss people just have too cope
The fact that this guy is three months younger than me is so depressing. Didn’t think 5 years ago that anyone my age or older would get this radicalized .
That is a descendant of Gavrilo Princel from Assassins Creed, starting WW1.
Libertarian accelerationist. Probably big fan of Thiel and Musk who thinks Trump is not MAGA enough. Perfect.
And the person donating to the Democratic Party is another 69-year-old Democrat, also named Thomas Crooks.
No. The person who started that was wrong. The donation matches the zip code for the shooter, same for the republican registration. The guy who "debunked" it was confused that Bethel Park is located in the greater Pittsburgh area and didn't look at the zip codes.
Chill bro.
The comedy writes itself these days
A lot of people are pointing out his donation to a progressive group 3.5 years ago, but that was when he was 16 or 17. I have a feeling he was a libertarian or centrist.
Ron DeSantis has done WHAT????
Yup, the spoon was never used in that pudding
title is giving "baby shoes for sale - never worn" (except better)
Just listened to that Idles song
Hey here's a crazy thought, what if this kid who was mocked and bullied every day of his life just really hated bullies?
I think he was a libertarian who was registered republican
That sounds like a tautology to me.
I can totally see this angle too
That's a different/interesting opinion
@@desdenova1 I disagree since apparently he wasn't well received by libertarians at their convention
@@fdfischer It was a joke. The majority of U.S. libertarians are right of center and vote Republican. Hence, tautology.
The guy who donated to the dems was NOT the same guy. Same name. Different guy.
He was confirmed as a conservative.
Who donated to democrats
All we know is he was registered Republican (in PA where state primaries are closed and in the context of democrats explicitly telling their followers to register republican to boost haleys primary numbers), and that he liked guns.
Liking guns is not mutually exclusive to conservatives. You know who else lies guns? Leftists. It's only liberals and the centre-left that are anti gun
@@bothi00his former classmates confirmed he was a conservative.
@@reluctantcapitalistliberal classmates 😅
Honestly I think Melania is sad
Worst money Melania ever spent...
Melania, Blade of Miquella?
@@S0LIDSNEKmelania Trump
@@psychosalad6653 lmao oh mb
@@S0LIDSNEKMelania, blade of Trump
Leave Bernie out of this.
He's not putting any blame on Bernie dummy. Better your comprehension skills and actually listen to the claim being made, instead of reacting to individual words you hear.
Yes, like WTF was vaush thinking. It’s not even confirmed he really donated it himself.
the time-traveler missed.
Number Five?
It's 2020 4.0 each update just keeps getting weirder...
That was a different Thomas Crooks who donated to Act Blue. This kid wasn't the one who donated money.
Has that been confirmed? Can't find a source for that. I'm not saying you're wrong, just the most recent reporting I find on that is from Reuters, less than an hour ago, and they're still saying he was the one who donated
Source please
@@guillaumelagueyte1019 Not 100% confirmed. However, if you check the fec website, you can find the donation yourself. It's reported from Pittsburgh and not Bethel Park. Now, Bethel Park is in the Metropolitan area, but there is currently no reason he would use Pittsburgh and not Bethel Park as his mailing address (donations from Bethel Park are possible). In addition, Thomas crooks is a relevantly common name and there are others in the area.
@@guillaumelagueyte1019Act blue doesn’t accept donations from anyone under 18
@@guillaumelagueyte1019 Not 100% confirmed. However, on the Federal Election Commision the donation referenced by the media is one made by a thomas crooks from Pittsburgh. There is no reason as of yet why he would use put Pittsburgh as his mailing address (Bethel Park is a possible option).
Edit: The zip code listed on the donation does overlap with Bethel Park and matches the released voter registration for the shooter
Calling Lee Harvey Oswald non-political might be the most uninformed thing I’ve never heard Vaush say lol
I have to wonder if he's truly that ignorant or if he's in denial. Lee Harvey Oswald was possibly more political than Vaush himself.
He was apolitical when it came to internal US politics, aka he didn't care about JFK as JFK the politician, he only cared that JFK was the US president at the time.
@@Henrik_Holst🤡
@@Henrik_HolstFair Play for Cuba Committee
@@imthebadguy3225 and was he a member there because he was politically motivated or was he that because that made him contrarian and special?
Turns out, that wasn't him who donated. That donation was from some 69 year old guy in another city in PA.
Can you point me toward where you found this info, I've read other people say it but couldn't find anything myself
Me when I lie on the internet for brownie point:😊
Radical Jeb!hadist
Bro I didn't even know this channel was a thing but I LOVE your takes. I came over from the Hasanabi show. Some different views but mostly the same.
Thank you for shining a light on the susceptibility of young, socially awkward young men ESPECIALLY from the failed Bernie movement that are now radical right. This is SUCH a problem.
Hasan and him are mostly the same
Some Difference here and there
Careful what hasan's community will do to you if they see you here
@@otakugamer616 Vaush is less attractive, because of that he has a harder time having the same results as Hasan.
@@otakugamer616 While their politics generally align, Vaush and Hasan are very different, especially when it comes to foreign policy like Ukraine and China. Vaush is a lot more level-headed, while Hasan veers a bit too much into the "US bad" mindset.
Someone on Twitter made the speculation that the $15 bet on inauguration day could just be paying a bet. Nothing other than speculation but that kinda makes the most sense to me. We'll see what comes out.
Does Vaush just scream at chat now? Is that all his stream is these days?
Between that, judging people for their appearances and some god awful takes. As much as I used to really enjoy Vaush... I'm finding it hard to listen anymore.
Sorry Vaush, I still wish you and your viewers all the best in life. (And your cats, of course.)
Vaush seemingly hates everyone and the way they look and he has no empathy for their individual or group struggles in life….but he is totally a socialist who loves the people though and wants to see us come together? 😉claiming to be a socialist is a great way to hide what a smug hateful person you are.
Vaush is basically a sassy gay man pretending to be a bi guy who is great with women and not an incel.
Agreed. I’ve been put off by his reactionary vibes like that for a while. It’s a shame because I admired him as a rhetorician in years past. But for months now, I’ve been hearing a lot of thoughtless language from his Sociology-major mouth (and don’t even get me started on his messy “defense” of THAT controversy of his), and that honestly hurts for me to even say. To be fair, though, to address your first couple questions, yelling at chat has been a mainstay of his channel since day one. I know because I’ve followed his content since 2019. Sometimes it’d be comedic, sometimes it’d be cringe - if that makes sense.
@@ConradAlumni I genuinely expected hate and disagreement from this comment.
I know he's yelled at chat since forever, but it feels like he does it a lot more lately. More angrily for sure.
The last stream I was in chat for, he was telling trans women to try harder to look less like men... Like... That stings. A lot. It's not exactly easy. I can't tell if he was joking or not, but honestly... it doesn't matter to me.
Between that and constantly putting people down for their appearances or how they dress. It's just not a fun stream anymore.
@@LaylaSpellwind I’m sorry he made you feel that way. Yeah, it’s a real shame to hear incendiary takes like that from him whenever I’m looking forward to hearing actual productive political analysis and insight instead whenever I’m tuning in to his streams. Plus, irresponsible rhetoric like that from him is just going to alienate more people from progressivism in the political landscape. Watching him lately hasn’t been fun for me either, I understand.
@@ConradAlumni I tried to watch his new video talking about Trumps VP choice, but for ages he just kept railing on the guys appearance. I wanted to hear about the person, not what he looked like. There will be some genuinely good people out there who just happen to look like the guy. Very lame.
Vaush has the mannerisms of a wine mom
Sorry, "wine moms" are in. Give it 4-8 years depending on the election.
I see it.
That's why he got offended when chat said Kamala Harris is a wine mom.
Wine mom, best mom.
8:30 actually my dad is independent progressive and he registered republican just to vote against Trump in the primaries in 2016/2020
The last time that guy voted was in 2022 and snd it wasnt even the shooter just someone with the same name
fALsE FlaG
didn't he register to be able to attend the rally?
A year and a half ago?
No doubt, the right will paint him as trans… he had long hair.
The suspect is like the "today I'm 16 and wanna be political" meme.
*Pretends to be shocked*
Turns out, it was another guy with the same name that made that donation. Still want to blame the Sanders supporters for this one?
From CNN, updated an hour ago: "But CNN interviews with more than a half-dozen former classmates and neighbors of Crooks painted him as quiet, with classmates remembering him as a good student and something of a misfit in high school. And a review of public records suggests he may have had divergent political leanings, with Crooks registering to vote as a Republican but making a small donation to a Democratic-leaning group."
He looks like your typical Nick Fuentes fan 😂😂😂
Or your typical vaush fan lol
He looks like a nerdy beta male lefty! 😂
Or he registered a republican so he could vote against trump in the primaries.
apparently registering republican in order to vote in their primaries and choose the less popular candidate IS a real thing though.
Except he didn't vote in this the latest primary...
@@Terminalsanity True, just responding the Vaush hand waving it away as an impossibility.
You tube be deleting posts like crazy. Let's see if I can edit this
Norway here, the bedrock of fascism is enabling environment,..like MAGA
Delusional right here. Makes sense though given where you live.
@@SlimJim-ws4pjreally cool of you to be open about being delusional and admit it's less prevalent in other countries
@@icecoldnut5152 Nobody admitted anything of the like, Vaush lover. I said it makes sense given where he lives because Norwegians don’t know what Fascism is. Go ask the Danes how they’ll feel about of Norwegian Saying that. The fact that you somehow thought I was agreeing with you is clear evidence of your lacking IQ, a common trait among the TDS populace.
@@icecoldnut5152 Really cool of you to showcase your IQ in the span one comment Vaush lover. Really proving my point here.
@@icecoldnut5152 Like I don’t think you understand the joy that comes from you unironically thinking I was agreeing with you. 😂 Can you say “Dumb” for me 10 times fast?
Apparently he never donated to ActBlue, that was someone else with the same name.
Where did you get that info?
2021 report says otherwise.
Apparantly you're wrong and shouldn't just repeat whatever you hear from random people on the internet.
funny how he connects the dots to the left. truly pushing a triangle in a oval hole.
i'm pretty sure forgotten weapons Ian McCollum is a progressive. But that is the only left wing gun youtuber i can think of.
Edit: Clarification. His content is apolitical but privately he is progressive.
InRange tv also, I believe. And tacticool girlfriend
What about Tacticool Girlfriend?
The Dragon Combat Club is an NYC-based gun and self-defense group that I found on Instagram that’s also left-leaning. Their goal is to assist Asian Americans in learning how to defend themselves. They’re mainly a face to face group, though.
InRange TV and Tacticool Girlfriend. InRange works with Atun-Shei occasionally, the John Brown vid they did together was fantastic.
And the way that the guntube community works, he could never openly own his progressive beliefs if he actually was progressive, because he knows what would happen to his channel. Being that the entire gun ecosystem on RUclips is far right.
People like donut operator and GarandThumb can just be openly fascist and white nationalist on social media, and face absolutely zero consequences. But if you even slightly hint that you’re progressive, you and your channel are absolutely effed.
I'm a registered Republican so that I can vote against Trump in the primaries. I'm far-left politically. Voter registration does not tell us anything useful. We need loads of context to even begin to speculate.
That’s effed up
And the left claims they dont do anything to manipulate numbers during voting time…
Does vaush sound drunk?
Vaush you either are illiterate or malicious who am i kidding?
It's both
DON'T LET THEM HIDE THIS
Why is it even necessary to call him ugly though?
Actblue dotation wasn't him.
The ActBlue 2021 report says otherwise
Most incoherent Vaush ramble
I would guess that somewhere in his media consumption the word “accelerate” comes up a lot
i dont get it can u pls explain 😭
@@aezvetyshe watched a lot of accelerationist content i assume is what they mean. You know when ben shapiro or charlie kirk goes on stage and talks about how the left is taking over and _someone_ _has_ _to_ _do_ _something!_ . Meaning he watched a lot of content that urged violent political action
Different Thomas Crooks, 69, who lives in Pittsburgh and is a registered democrat made that donation.
It is confirmed to be Thomas Matthew Crooks with Bethel Park zip code. Bethel Park is a suburb of Pittsburgh in the same county, so BP is considered the broader Pittsburgh area.
@@6z0 unless he lied about his age ActBlue would've rejected his donation since he would've been 17 when he made it. There is a Thomas Crooks in Pittsburg who is a registered democrat who is 69 years old. I find it more likely that the older man who is a registered democrat would've made that donation rather than a 17 year old kid who registered republican the first chance he got.
@@3536mj Registering as a republican means nothing. I am a registered Democrat and I have voted republican in many elections. It is confirmed by authorities that he is the one who made the donation… that is why news sources are saying he made it.
8:32 - I see your "nobody does that" and raise you an, "I personally know someone who did just that".
i came here for bullshit and as always i got it
He registered as a republican to vote in the primary against trump, that’s all
Source?
@dr.osterman8158Not sure if primaries show up on your "last voted" since they are internal to the parties themselves
Of course the 2022 election had primaries also
Proof?
This is the first decent analysis I've seen. Everyone is always dancing around the conclusions.
Wasn’t trump a registered democrat till three years before he ran? Yah he was a registered democrat for more than 8 years of the 2000s.
“ Who Can Vote in a Primary Election? In Pennsylvania, you can only vote for the candidates in the same political party you have named in your voter registration.”
So he could have registered Republican, in order to vote against trump in the primary, then he could vote for whoever in the general election.
The political donation has been debunked. That donor was Thomas A Crooks, a 52 year old from Pittsburgh.
From CNN, updated an hour ago: "But CNN interviews with more than a half-dozen former classmates and neighbors of Crooks painted him as quiet, with classmates remembering him as a good student and something of a misfit in high school. And a review of public records suggests he may have had divergent political leanings, with Crooks registering to vote as a Republican but making a small donation to a Democratic-leaning group."
He was 17