This opponent was really good, and I knew when they got the initial cancel on the fast expo (none of the other opponents did in the games uploaded to RUclips), it was going to be different from the other games.
"Is Orc OP?". The only thing that "can" be OP in Orc is a level 5 BM loaded with circlets of nobility and claws, which can do up to 300 crit. And good luck not only getting your BM to level 5, but also finding that many claw drops. At everything else, Orc is absolute trash. On previous patch, Orc had just one good/decent matchup against UD, an average matchup against Human and a very bad matchup against Elf. In this patch, Orc has a bad matchup against Human, a *terrible*(jokingly bad) matchup against Elf, and the one matchup that used to be good/average against UD is now clearly UD favored due to the overwhelming strength of frenzied ghouls pushes since ghouls got buffet AND the only viable unit in this matchup(the Head Hunter) got nerfed into oblivion. Lyn used to be 65/35 Vs Happy, and now he's down to 40% Orc is literally *the* weakest race in this patch. Likle Carson from Back2WC said: "Orc is the new meme race."
@@DomaciZadatak Yes. High APM is somewhat correlated with better micro management, but it's not always the case as you can sometimes also 'waste' clicks and button presses for commands that don't accomplish much.
That would have been tricky here, since the only two buildings were the watchtowers themselves, and a watchtower can't attack itself. So he could have tried to quickly have them attack each other, but may not have been fast enough. Maybe having them attack the full health peon was the move --- then A-click the peons and spam 'Stop' on the towers again so they don't kill the peon
hey comment section was thinking about getting into wc3 again for custom maps. But i dont remember the name of the one map i loved to play back then. You could pick 1 of many races and everyone had a single building sending out waves of units along lanes to the cpus base and you could upgrade your building and units and stuff. Anyone know what I mean by chance? Cant find it on hive
That's not what I meant. When a grabby just starts building a building, he sends a worker to the mine through SHIFT, so that after the construction of the building he goes to mine gold. Although the worker will go to the mine himself without SHIFT.@@Spartoi1
Huh, ironically, it doesn't work against a faction known for harassing and breaking expos. I mean it could work but perhaps other unit composition to go for. Like tier 3 troll berserkers.
@@FollowGrubby All fine, you are still 10x times better then I ever was and probably could be... But this game was like it was played by a different player. Happens to everyone I guess.
A few too many preventable mistakes. Several units lost in the early game, lost a HH to a burrow in mid game, built 2 altars. As you said though, it can happen.
Grubby dont spread this strat to much, should be your top secret.😂 You make things to fast meta (Fs and the mass HH was your thing too through your virality🫠)
This opponent was really good, and I knew when they got the initial cancel on the fast expo (none of the other opponents did in the games uploaded to RUclips), it was going to be different from the other games.
His opponent streams on twitch all the time, and is low key good from what I've seen. Great game! Im really happy to see Grubby post this
by 6:30 enemy has killed about 5 tier 1 units. that blade was having a field day off to the left.
I never ever get bored of your vids. Testament to WC3's freshness and your presenting.
This Troll Berzerker spam + Bloodlust strat feels really solid
16:06 -- I hear music from *The Witcher 3: Blood & Wine* , specifically the outdoor wild areas of Toussaint...
*Am I right ?!? :O*
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I wonder, in a world where trolls don't need a war mill. Is it possible that you see games with 0 grunts?
"Don't touch me, I am chaste!"
"Is Orc OP?". The only thing that "can" be OP in Orc is a level 5 BM loaded with circlets of nobility and claws, which can do up to 300 crit. And good luck not only getting your BM to level 5, but also finding that many claw drops. At everything else, Orc is absolute trash. On previous patch, Orc had just one good/decent matchup against UD, an average matchup against Human and a very bad matchup against Elf. In this patch, Orc has a bad matchup against Human, a *terrible*(jokingly bad) matchup against Elf, and the one matchup that used to be good/average against UD is now clearly UD favored due to the overwhelming strength of frenzied ghouls pushes since ghouls got buffet AND the only viable unit in this matchup(the Head Hunter) got nerfed into oblivion. Lyn used to be 65/35 Vs Happy, and now he's down to 40%
Orc is literally *the* weakest race in this patch. Likle Carson from Back2WC said:
"Orc is the new meme race."
Circlet, orb of lightning, 2claws, immolation item and Vampiric Aura item = OP blade.
Damn I nearly jumped from that blademaster jumpscare, who knew WC3 could be so spooky
What does APM stands for? Great game and channel :D
actions per minute
@@MsJavaWolf actions as like clicking and pressing keyboard buttons?
@@DomaciZadatak Yes. High APM is somewhat correlated with better micro management, but it's not always the case as you can sometimes also 'waste' clicks and button presses for commands that don't accomplish much.
that last sapper! XD
Would that be possible to lure red spot to your towers to help you creep it faster?
First for Orcs! ***GRUBBY!!! The next time you need to stop a watch tower from attacking, just make them attack another building!
That would have been tricky here, since the only two buildings were the watchtowers themselves, and a watchtower can't attack itself. So he could have tried to quickly have them attack each other, but may not have been fast enough. Maybe having them attack the full health peon was the move --- then A-click the peons and spam 'Stop' on the towers again so they don't kill the peon
Two altars and such a long tc delay. There were options... 😅
I can never fine games what sever dose everyone play on?
Why no spirit walkers for dispel?
Nice game GG Grubster. And remember there is always next time 🤣
gg, even for a losing game you made it interesting.
gg. i feel like 14:00 was too early to fight, gotta make use of orc advantage
well the enemy forced it. I think the fight was still alright and just turned when Grubby wasn't able to use the healing pot on TC and lost him.
could hajve attacked towers with towers to free you up for peopn
Orc is OP against Orc
Good fight! Guess nothing works on everything? Still a cool non-standard strat.
hey comment section
was thinking about getting into wc3 again for custom maps. But i dont remember the name of the one map i loved to play back then. You could pick 1 of many races and everyone had a single building sending out waves of units along lanes to the cpus base and you could upgrade your building and units and stuff. Anyone know what I mean by chance? Cant find it on hive
Legion TD
Blade high level is impossible to win against imo unless you have nuke ability, just overpowered hero end of story
To win against high lvl blade you gonna need big nukers for it.
BM so freakin' strong
*Grubby, why are you sending a worker through the shift into the mine? He goes there anyway without it*
It was explained multiple times, they normally go at about 80% move speed by themselves. So it increases gold income while you are mining with 4.
That's not what I meant. When a grabby just starts building a building, he sends a worker to the mine through SHIFT, so that after the construction of the building he goes to mine gold. Although the worker will go to the mine himself without SHIFT.@@Spartoi1
Couldve camped the expo a bit instead of creep when he kept on hitting expo
Yep I should've. Game was winnable for sure, despite being found out early. The merc camp incident was gutting
You didnt tp when you were finished harassing, so the expo went up late
When will you TROLL someone? just trolls.
Alternatively giving someone the short end of the stick with just dwarves (MK, rifles, tanks, mortars, etc.)
what reason of early exp as or, when u can build at t3 literally in few seconds...
Huh, ironically, it doesn't work against a faction known for harassing and breaking expos.
I mean it could work but perhaps other unit composition to go for. Like tier 3 troll berserkers.
You want both t3 and expo before getting cracked? You want afk opponents?
@@ColdIntruder1 do you?
Good game
nice try tyvm grubby
Yes, orcs are OP! Blizzard have to nerf Grunts 😊
I got 200+ APM just closing out all these ads..
Grubby needs a better response to pure aggression, to be constructive.
Noli me Tangere !
failo maphacks a shitton
Game was *OVER at minute 15...* ...Remaining 10+ minutes were just a... *WASTE OF TIME. :/*
Please don't waste our time like that any more... :/
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He played this one really bad.
Gotta up some L's now and then, but now you know why sometimes I don't show it
@@FollowGrubby All fine, you are still 10x times better then I ever was and probably could be... But this game was like it was played by a different player. Happens to everyone I guess.
A few too many preventable mistakes. Several units lost in the early game, lost a HH to a burrow in mid game, built 2 altars. As you said though, it can happen.
GET SCHREKT GRUBZ! Nice to see you lose again mon ami!
BM and SH is strong combo but yes in one moment spikes saved you from defeat ... if he went for your army who knows how it could end
Grubby dont spread this strat to much, should be your top secret.😂 You make things to fast meta (Fs and the mass HH was your thing too through your virality🫠)