Clarification on Immulating plum: Fyi, this only with activate when the siege commander uses his special skill. It will not initial start on white damage. If the fight goes back and forth, may take a while to go off. Its really good on long fights. I went over battle reports and confirmed it with VIP. Great video.
The coin is also for shield triggering effects/skills, and now is stackable with Mighty Shields. Really considering my next accessory. I already have 3 rings, I don't think I need a fourth.
I would highly encourage drum before shield tbh. And yeah but the one who really benefits from shield is guan and if you have Wallace or Alex in your lineup you are set.
Great video ❤ but it depends on the commander cause a horn for a guan/scipio march is a no no. A break down of the top marches and accessories for them would have been nice in this video also 😊
Hi, can you elaborate on why the horn for Guan/Scipio is a bad thing please? Not disagreeing with you, just want to understand because that’s what I use for them 😂
I find that I do really well with ring/wind scars with my guan/scipio. They Gen a ton of rage anyways, so horn is basically a waste. If I HAD to replace wind scars, probably dagger. But I don't see myself trying to replace that in a hurry 🫵😎
@RandyRodgirth over rage rates are greater than the actual benefit you gain from horn. Scipio generates rage 30% faster when the target enemy is silenced, plus all the rage Gen you get from guans skill tree. There's really no need. Dagger is probably the better option. Or, you could do like me and supplement march speed with wind scars. Easy to crit too.
10:45 Hi Bro. Just wanted to tell that you are right with the Pendant. I have it Maxed (Ionic 5+Refined), and i really DO NOT RECOMMEND it for 98% of all Players. There are only 2 Kind of People I recommend to forget the Pendant: 1. People like me: High Active, really young Rally Leaders but with very fast development in Gear and strong focus in 1 Set, since you miss before SoC the Blueprints of Horn&Dagger to make them Ionic 5. 2. People who want to migrate back KVK 2. About the Fact witb the new Damage types, you are right. It may change to even lesser Value. Please all field fighters, do not forge this.😊
I made a pendant a while ago as a flex for farming it. Very hard to get 30 fragments. Back then, before smite wasnt even in the game it wasn't advised to make them. They're not bad but now its even less advisable to make them
Statistics ( testing ) shows for Legendary Ring > Horn > Dagger* (Now Greatest Glory being considered, but still last in line) Epic/Rare * Based on use not just best in slot* Flag > Ancient Stratagems > Wind Scars > Silent Trial > Delane's Amulet NOTES - Dagger is technically a % better than Horn! And if you focus field fights and murder ball situation people will argue Ring+Dagger over the traditional choice of Ring+Horn. Due to well in a murder ball, The more hp % Dagger drops on a target and more targets attacking that one. The enemy is being taken out quick. The Arguement for Greatest Glory is the smite commanders, especially using Arch formation. But again as of now the choice is whats been mentioned. For Epic notes. Some claim Flag is not important, I can agree but early mid game using inf field march or anything else really that march speed does assist in escape from enemy or return to war area from refreshing. Easy to obtain as well. Then for Ancient Stratagems it's technically a " Poor mans" Ring due to bringing more troops = slightly more dmg output. Again not "all that important " but if would like that bonus dmg and be slightly better it may be a choice for you. Wind Scars for early/mid even some late game field fighting Infantry players I would say Wind Scars upgraded is always seen on my field infranty march followed by Dagger or Ring along side it. Just my own input. Delane's Amulet is questionable but may offer slight edge offering counter attack but if material is a problem I suggest holding back from this purchase. And Silent Trial upgraded lowering enemy rage buys you another couple auto attack or potentially you getting one more skill off on an enemy march before they get their skill off on you due to lowering rage but it's only by a small % so if struggling for material Delane's Amulet and Silent trial may not be the best investments.. same for Greatest Glory if f2p more casual. Stick with Ring+Dagger or Ring+Horn honestly. Just trying help. ❤
@@ShappyGaming The obtain rate is fairly low. Pendant of Eternal night minus the material cost. Is free to obtain from barbarian fortress which took me few months to get, but that's one item I should have wrote on. If manage material well, mid-late game and have 2-3 marchs equipped and can manage the material I suggest grabbing it, it would eventually be swapped out but for a second or even third march depending how long you been playing. It has good use 5% skill dmg I mean can be a winning factor in some situations. The coin is obviously for garrison lead. Which just my experience id suggest working on 2-3 field marchs before heading into RL or GL. But if decide GL after 2-3 march complete the coin is a worthwhile investment especially with formations now. ( which I GL) and play A few accounts, I tried going GL before having couple field march done and made my kvks no fun for awhile. Can't just hop into RL or GL due to needing full set, crits and now armaments. Better to work on the couple field march to be a better support to your kd. Well working on your choice of RL/GL or just strictly field. The Plume especially with how Engineering is starting to become playable I wouldn't rush get it... but again if you are more into the late game or specifically trying to focus Engineering it would be a fair investment but not something to rush into. Mora's Web is actually a gem seeing how field Fight and murder balls cav is a large % of the marchs seen. Could really cause them issues I myself would be the type to grab that second or third if my goal was play strictly field. One of my other accounts actually went Ring+ Web and Ring+Dagger for my own test. So one march dropping defence and march speed of cav. Other dropping health... it's good kill rate. Vengeance id test on Engineering personally I could be wrong here I haven't personally played it but feel it's use would give slightly more edge to a V march or Engineering. Im talking alot I don't blame you if just skim through this. Let me add something that applies to account I use ring+Web and ring+Dagger on. Trajan March. Boudica prime +imhotep * yes... just wait*. ( I've wanted to use thutmose but just ain't investing GH but Imhotep is there just to de buff. And just to further be a headache bring any march pairing offering lower enemy unit march speed other by talent or skill effect. Add this with what Web is doing to cav. And what Dagger is doing to their health. This is similar play style to 2 of my other accounts. I'm on laptop playing that. Well on phone playing main. Same time. Debuff on the one account. And dealing as much damage as can on my main. I can do 2 phone + laptop but I tend to have focus issues. But that's how I play and since started talking about some these accessories. Felt sharing this would offer how these accessory could play a pretty big role in war. Also doesn't have just be me or if someone else wanted mimic this. Just get a friend to assist. Remember ones applying de buff or buff. And stronger player will do the high damage output or both split tasks.
Bro, need an advice…. I’m running 5 marches Nev/Joan, Huo/Will, Guan/Scipio, Liu/Alex, and ZL/Hermann, please let me know what civilization is most fit for them ? BTW, i’m not a F2P. Last thing, should i replace Alex to WW and pair Scipio with Alex ? Thanks
I have an old coin I only use on Guan and when Ragnar Prime comes out if we end up all benching Guan I might just dismantle the coin. Right now Im running smite garrison with a ring and a Vengeance thats special talent for infantry (10.5% counter) and Iconic II (troop basic health 4, troop health 1.5%). I not sure if I should keep using that or try for the Greatest Glory. 5 rings, 1 web, 1 dagger, 1 coin, 1 vengeance, 1 horn
Vengeance isn’t bad, it just requires you to get swarmed to be better than greatest glory, to be honest for the cost of dismantling you are better off just keeping it
Hi, nice video and I watched till the end. But somehow im not satisfied with how you explain how good ring is for its 50% more damage vs how not really relevant the dagger unless all the marches have it. Because i have tested and look on battle log multiple times, Sadly dagger effect always proc multiple times and way much more than ring. Isnt it basicly just praying on luck, to get the big "IF" ring effect proc more = its good. Can you maybe help convince me that ring is better than dagger. Rhanks anyway
yes, unfortunately we all bought a ring because of a youtubers, even though we hardly see it in battle report. Horn, dagger are definitely ahead. Only ring with liu che can be activated often
Yeah, i mean its because i read and checked the battle log 1 by 1. Dagger proc like almost 10 times more often with no exaggeration. And use it with scipio, you get stable HP debuff -5% up to - 45% (not rare). Let say HP is the most desire stat + most usefull + most searched stat by player. Isnt it also great to reduce it. Most player have avarage of 80% to 100% HP buff. 15% HP reduction (not counting scipio), is already huge. In my humble opinion.
I'm personally on the dagger train myself. Ring is a selfish accessory, only procing a damage buff for 1 march, whereas all your marches can benefit from dagger procs. Under rated piece if you ask me.
So here is the thing- the ring has a 1/10 chance to proc every time and that probability does not aggregate, so you are totally right that there is the potential for it to proc less. However when it procs it makes a huge difference. Dagger is 3x more likely to proc and more likely to proc sequentially because of that. However in a murder ball realistically the target is not going to last long enough for it to make a difference, and it only will impact the one target where as ring impacts all damage dealt- including smite or skill. Realistically I would take a 1/10 chance that I will essentially deal a second primary skill over the chance to debuff a target that is probably gonna die anyhow by 3-6% (no chance you get full stack). Just my thoughts!
if they add new accessories it means they will reduce the accessories cost not everyone is a whale who spends million of dollars and has everything sorted out so far and especially new players you can see even the cancellation of t6 tells you a lot that they can not do what they want or they will lose the spenders they already have in the game for years.
Hey man, i got a question. Ive just returned from the game and got 400k power, its giving me the choice to start a new kingdom but i received a few thousand gems from stuff i didn't claim before. Should i make a new one or start from scratch?
@@ShappyGaming how would you recommend I start again? I'm not exactly sure and it took quite a bit for me to reach this height, I could also just continue this as is.
@@cuzwhou342 I wouldn’t because my guess is you are in an older kingdom at this point so your opportunities to grow would be negligible :(. Do you still see the start over option in the Kings Return Event?
@@ShappyGaming yes I do, but I've migrated to a new kingdom already. I've just returned 2 days ago, I had 80k and it got increased to 300k after 2 years of not playing.
I believe the 100% guaranteed refers to the 4th time refining the same piece. You have 11% chance to crit upon crafting, 11% chance to crit with each refine, but its 100% guaranteed to special talent on the 4th, which is actually the 5th time youve run that piece through the forge
@@jimibones178 they are different counters! If you crafted one piece and refine 4 times you are guaranteed a crit. If you just blanket craft 5 times you get a crit
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Clarification on Immulating plum: Fyi, this only with activate when the siege commander uses his special skill. It will not initial start on white damage. If the fight goes back and forth, may take a while to go off. Its really good on long fights. I went over battle reports and confirmed it with VIP. Great video.
Ah that’s a bummer!!
The coin is also for shield triggering effects/skills, and now is stackable with Mighty Shields. Really considering my next accessory. I already have 3 rings, I don't think I need a fourth.
I would highly encourage drum before shield tbh. And yeah but the one who really benefits from shield is guan and if you have Wallace or Alex in your lineup you are set.
Great video ❤ but it depends on the commander cause a horn for a guan/scipio march is a no no. A break down of the top marches and accessories for them would have been nice in this video also 😊
Thank you!! That’s not a bad idea- maybe I’ll do a breakdown of some of the best marches and the accessories and formations to use for em!
Hi, can you elaborate on why the horn for Guan/Scipio is a bad thing please? Not disagreeing with you, just want to understand because that’s what I use for them 😂
I find that I do really well with ring/wind scars with my guan/scipio. They Gen a ton of rage anyways, so horn is basically a waste. If I HAD to replace wind scars, probably dagger. But I don't see myself trying to replace that in a hurry 🫵😎
@RandyRodgirth over rage rates are greater than the actual benefit you gain from horn. Scipio generates rage 30% faster when the target enemy is silenced, plus all the rage Gen you get from guans skill tree. There's really no need. Dagger is probably the better option. Or, you could do like me and supplement march speed with wind scars. Easy to crit too.
@@GrowmietheGreen I also find my ring does pretty well, tbh for guan the other accessory I might consider is gonna be drums
10:45 Hi Bro.
Just wanted to tell that you are right with the Pendant.
I have it Maxed (Ionic 5+Refined), and i really DO NOT RECOMMEND it for 98% of all Players. There are only 2 Kind of People I recommend to forget the Pendant:
1. People like me: High Active, really young Rally Leaders but with very fast development in Gear and strong focus in 1 Set, since you miss before SoC the Blueprints of Horn&Dagger to make them Ionic 5.
2. People who want to migrate back KVK 2. About the Fact witb the new Damage types, you are right. It may change to even lesser Value. Please all field fighters, do not forge this.😊
oh totally, so sorry to have it maxed!!
I made a pendant a while ago as a flex for farming it. Very hard to get 30 fragments. Back then, before smite wasnt even in the game it wasn't advised to make them. They're not bad but now its even less advisable to make them
Danggg props to you for putting in the effort! Yeah the additional mechanics make it less valuable these days sadly :(
Statistics ( testing ) shows for Legendary Ring > Horn > Dagger* (Now Greatest Glory being considered, but still last in line)
Epic/Rare * Based on use not just best in slot* Flag > Ancient Stratagems > Wind Scars > Silent Trial > Delane's Amulet
NOTES - Dagger is technically a % better than Horn! And if you focus field fights and murder ball situation people will argue Ring+Dagger over the traditional choice of Ring+Horn. Due to well in a murder ball, The more hp % Dagger drops on a target and more targets attacking that one. The enemy is being taken out quick. The Arguement for Greatest Glory is the smite commanders, especially using Arch formation. But again as of now the choice is whats been mentioned.
For Epic notes. Some claim Flag is not important, I can agree but early mid game using inf field march or anything else really that march speed does assist in escape from enemy or return to war area from refreshing. Easy to obtain as well.
Then for Ancient Stratagems it's technically a " Poor mans" Ring due to bringing more troops = slightly more dmg output. Again not "all that important " but if would like that bonus dmg and be slightly better it may be a choice for you.
Wind Scars for early/mid even some late game field fighting Infantry players I would say Wind Scars upgraded is always seen on my field infranty march followed by Dagger or Ring along side it. Just my own input.
Delane's Amulet is questionable but may offer slight edge offering counter attack but if material is a problem I suggest holding back from this purchase.
And Silent Trial upgraded lowering enemy rage buys you another couple auto attack or potentially you getting one more skill off on an enemy march before they get their skill off on you due to lowering rage but it's only by a small % so if struggling for material Delane's Amulet and Silent trial may not be the best investments.. same for Greatest Glory if f2p more casual. Stick with Ring+Dagger or Ring+Horn honestly.
Just trying help. ❤
Holy cow!! You did your research!!
Where do you have drum!?
@@ShappyGaming The obtain rate is fairly low. Pendant of Eternal night minus the material cost. Is free to obtain from barbarian fortress which took me few months to get, but that's one item I should have wrote on. If manage material well, mid-late game and have 2-3 marchs equipped and can manage the material I suggest grabbing it, it would eventually be swapped out but for a second or even third march depending how long you been playing. It has good use 5% skill dmg I mean can be a winning factor in some situations.
The coin is obviously for garrison lead. Which just my experience id suggest working on 2-3 field marchs before heading into RL or GL. But if decide GL after 2-3 march complete the coin is a worthwhile investment especially with formations now. ( which I GL) and play A few accounts, I tried going GL before having couple field march done and made my kvks no fun for awhile. Can't just hop into RL or GL due to needing full set, crits and now armaments. Better to work on the couple field march to be a better support to your kd. Well working on your choice of RL/GL or just strictly field.
The Plume especially with how Engineering is starting to become playable I wouldn't rush get it... but again if you are more into the late game or specifically trying to focus Engineering it would be a fair investment but not something to rush into.
Mora's Web is actually a gem seeing how field Fight and murder balls cav is a large % of the marchs seen. Could really cause them issues I myself would be the type to grab that second or third if my goal was play strictly field. One of my other accounts actually went Ring+ Web and Ring+Dagger for my own test. So one march dropping defence and march speed of cav. Other dropping health... it's good kill rate.
Vengeance id test on Engineering personally I could be wrong here I haven't personally played it but feel it's use would give slightly more edge to a V march or Engineering.
Im talking alot I don't blame you if just skim through this. Let me add something that applies to account I use ring+Web and ring+Dagger on.
Trajan March. Boudica prime +imhotep * yes... just wait*. ( I've wanted to use thutmose but just ain't investing GH but Imhotep is there just to de buff. And just to further be a headache bring any march pairing offering lower enemy unit march speed other by talent or skill effect. Add this with what Web is doing to cav. And what Dagger is doing to their health. This is similar play style to 2 of my other accounts. I'm on laptop playing that. Well on phone playing main. Same time. Debuff on the one account. And dealing as much damage as can on my main. I can do 2 phone + laptop but I tend to have focus issues. But that's how I play and since started talking about some these accessories. Felt sharing this would offer how these accessory could play a pretty big role in war. Also doesn't have just be me or if someone else wanted mimic this. Just get a friend to assist. Remember ones applying de buff or buff. And stronger player will do the high damage output or both split tasks.
Bro, need an advice…. I’m running 5 marches Nev/Joan, Huo/Will, Guan/Scipio, Liu/Alex, and ZL/Hermann, please let me know what civilization is most fit for them ? BTW, i’m not a F2P.
Last thing, should i replace Alex to WW and pair Scipio with Alex ? Thanks
Im currently running almost the exact same setup but I have WW/Liu -- Im using france for the all troop health and like it!
@@ShappyGaming so, is it worth to build WW or wait for Ragnar Prime to compare?
I have an old coin I only use on Guan and when Ragnar Prime comes out if we end up all benching Guan I might just dismantle the coin.
Right now Im running smite garrison with a ring and a Vengeance thats special talent for infantry (10.5% counter) and Iconic II (troop basic health 4, troop health 1.5%). I not sure if I should keep using that or try for the Greatest Glory.
5 rings, 1 web, 1 dagger, 1 coin, 1 vengeance, 1 horn
Vengeance isn’t bad, it just requires you to get swarmed to be better than greatest glory, to be honest for the cost of dismantling you are better off just keeping it
I crafted vengeance for Pakal/Tariq. But now it goes on Zhug because he always gets targeted first😂
Ooooof 😭
I got full DB I crit on the gloves. I'm using RoD and dagger for accessories
@@MugzMaloanThis not a bad setup! I might want horn on zhuge
@@brotherdawg7694 ouch not Vengeance lol
Hi, nice video and I watched till the end.
But somehow im not satisfied with how you explain how good ring is for its 50% more damage vs how not really relevant the dagger unless all the marches have it.
Because i have tested and look on battle log multiple times,
Sadly dagger effect always proc multiple times and way much more than ring. Isnt it basicly just praying on luck, to get the big "IF" ring effect proc more = its good.
Can you maybe help convince me that ring is better than dagger.
Rhanks anyway
I dont know why all content creators push the ring so hard. Your exactly right it's a shot in the dark that the ring actually procs
yes, unfortunately we all bought a ring because of a youtubers, even though we hardly see it in battle report. Horn, dagger are definitely ahead. Only ring with liu che can be activated often
Yeah, i mean its because i read and checked the battle log 1 by 1.
Dagger proc like almost 10 times more often with no exaggeration. And use it with scipio, you get stable HP debuff -5% up to - 45% (not rare).
Let say HP is the most desire stat + most usefull + most searched stat by player. Isnt it also great to reduce it.
Most player have avarage of 80% to 100% HP buff.
15% HP reduction (not counting scipio), is already huge.
In my humble opinion.
I'm personally on the dagger train myself. Ring is a selfish accessory, only procing a damage buff for 1 march, whereas all your marches can benefit from dagger procs. Under rated piece if you ask me.
So here is the thing- the ring has a 1/10 chance to proc every time and that probability does not aggregate, so you are totally right that there is the potential for it to proc less. However when it procs it makes a huge difference.
Dagger is 3x more likely to proc and more likely to proc sequentially because of that. However in a murder ball realistically the target is not going to last long enough for it to make a difference, and it only will impact the one target where as ring impacts all damage dealt- including smite or skill.
Realistically I would take a 1/10 chance that I will essentially deal a second primary skill over the chance to debuff a target that is probably gonna die anyhow by 3-6% (no chance you get full stack).
Just my thoughts!
Yo, Peter's sickle and bards pendant for the win, every time 😂😂😂😂
This person gets it 😂😂😂
@@ShappyGaming I do indeed, brother 🫵😎🤣🤣🤣
You should also consider that the war drums cost 20 mats cheaper
Ooooo huge callout
does the ring of doom boost smite damage also? thanks in advance for helping me
Yes!! It boosts all damage
What if I’m running gorgo liu? Do I still do GG if I already have horn and ring
I would use ring/gg with gorgo liu! Don’t dismantle anything tho!
What about ww/liu are ring and GG also good? @@ShappyGaming
I had the coin cuz I accidentally clicked it when I was gonna craft ring and wanna recycle it but got It crit to inf soooo
OH NOOOOO
Yo why ring is not good with zhuge
Ring should be great with zhuge!
Best accessories for garrison?
Probably either GG/ vengeance and ring or horn
Lilith might add new accessories related to new armaments so try to hold out forging multiple of these🤔
Noooooo, I sure hope not
if they add new accessories it means they will reduce the accessories cost not everyone is a whale who spends million of dollars and has everything sorted out so far and especially new players you can see even the cancellation of t6 tells you a lot that they can not do what they want or they will lose the spenders they already have in the game for years.
Hey man, i got a question. Ive just returned from the game and got 400k power, its giving me the choice to start a new kingdom but i received a few thousand gems from stuff i didn't claim before. Should i make a new one or start from scratch?
You can start a new one from the return of the king event that you got! That’s what I would do, 400k power is nothing!
@@ShappyGaming how would you recommend I start again? I'm not exactly sure and it took quite a bit for me to reach this height, I could also just continue this as is.
@@cuzwhou342 I wouldn’t because my guess is you are in an older kingdom at this point so your opportunities to grow would be negligible :(. Do you still see the start over option in the Kings Return Event?
@@ShappyGaming yes I do, but I've migrated to a new kingdom already. I've just returned 2 days ago, I had 80k and it got increased to 300k after 2 years of not playing.
@@cuzwhou342 I would start over in a brand new kingdom! Maybe join a jumper group?
War drum cooldown should be consider
Of course, but bear in mind multiple drums can affect your march within cooldown
5.....5th same is supposed to be guaranteed to pop......
Hahaha yes… just have to get there!
I believe the 100% guaranteed refers to the 4th time refining the same piece. You have 11% chance to crit upon crafting, 11% chance to crit with each refine, but its 100% guaranteed to special talent on the 4th, which is actually the 5th time youve run that piece through the forge
Yes! 4th time refining and 5th time crafting!
@ShappyGaming right, but not guaranteed to special talent the 5th time you make a seperate one of those pieces
Or maybe I'm wrong, I dunno. Is just speculation
@@jimibones178 they are different counters! If you crafted one piece and refine 4 times you are guaranteed a crit. If you just blanket craft 5 times you get a crit
Mora and Dagger are good for swarming
Yeah, but you aren’t swarming all the time!