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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
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How does a musician end up with $1 million dollars in the bank? He starts his career with $2 million dollars in the bank!
Kkkkk true!!
@@Papa-tn3vn Yes I will try the veal
A riff on the old standard:
"How do you make a small fortune in the stock market?"
"Well, you start with a large fortune..."
haha it really true
I would never be a touring/road musician. Totally not worth the hassle. TV/film music placements saved my life. I can do all of it from home.
I will never forget those nights of playing a show for $250.00.....
.......then splitting it up 6 ways. Ahhh, those were the days.
Yeah and the people saying..." Oh and we'll feed you....". So you get to add a cheeseburger in as a bonus......
Paying the dues
@@VA434 ...Yup! First gig I ever played was at this dump called Gargoyle's.... Memories.....
Broooo 😂😂😂 this hits the spot
I played the shows solo using electronics and made the whole $250 per night
Rhett... trust me on this... start practicing your singing privately every chance you get... in the shower, singing along with the radio, in-a-low-voice along with your band, sing along with your guitar (like George Benson), etc... every single chance you get. Then learn and practice doing harmonies. - I was always just-the-guitar-player too and thought I couldn't sing. I also played pretty complicated guitar work, and thought it wasn't possible to play that and sing simultaneously... Then after doing all the above recommendations and getting my pitch nailed I realized I actually had a great voice (I bet you do too) and it turned out singing and playing at the same time wasn't hard at all. - Rhett, if you sang well, along with your already great guitar playing, you'd be unstoppable. -- Great look, great guitar playing, and great singing... talk about a triple threat! - Just sayin' bro... I think you're more than a sideman.
Great advice man! I’m definitely working on it.
👍 - Good man!
I already have a great look so no need to work on that....now, where are those little debbies
you can’t hype yourself up like that just to disappoint us when we check your channel Upload something!!
Start The Rebellion facts. Lots of great guitarists out there. Great harmony vocals separate you from the rest by a long way.
Rhett, the raw, transparent honesty of your channel and content are amazing man! So many people get to live vicariously through your career and experience the life of a pro, but more than that you bring your own personal honesty that’s so much more impressive! Keep doing your thing and much love for the future!
Hope you make it big with Noah and the rest of the band such a cool vibe you have going on. All the best Rhett!!
Thanks Conor!
Musicians don't need money...they pay their bills with exposure bucks
SHHHHHH!!!! 🤫
Everyone will want some
American Exposure Card!
What's the exchange rate?
Alex Blanco I use to tell peeps if I get anymore exposures I’ll go to jail for it. 😆🎸🎼🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶
And free PBR
I would've guessed you steal towels and shampoo from the hotel and sell it to your bandmates. That's how I do it and then I buy shampoo and towels from my bandmates. We all make money.
I see you went to the Milo Minderbinder School of Business!
That’s how inflation works
Don't forget the shower caps
porta yes haha
This is the age when musicians are cleaner and sober than the audience. Jesus!
@Fuzzy Butkus Yes, in my experience they're much more sob.
Tell me about it. Didn't even see one bag of heroin in this video.
Dr. Giggles music sucks nowadays cause no one does herorin. Hate to sound boring but how stupid does that sound
@@littlesquidward8117 It does sound a bit stupid. Good thing no one actually said that.
@Dr. Giggles Because you need to take heavy drugs to play rock n roll?🤔
Your realness will garner more and more loyal fans! Thank you for helping new musicians out. I'm 22, just graduated from music school and I find these videos very informative. Hope you keep it up man!
Been watching your channel for several months now, Rhett. The variety and originality of content, production values, entertainment, useful info and sheer honesty contained within makes it one of the best muso channels out there. Much appreciated, pal. Keep it up!
Dude, I seriously love your content. It inspires me to get out there. I hope all those shows you played went well bro!
Actual information starts at 8:30. You’re welcome.
Thanks!
You da real MVP
and ends at 8:50 WTF
As a professional musician I thought the whole video was entertaining, informative and well-made.
@@jimbo23mattingly what else did you want to know?
This is not a dry explanation. It contains lots of back stage and back ground insights and hang time. I liked it
The quality of your videos are incredible now. These are not far from HBO specials. The drone in the arena was over the top!
I love this channel and Rhett but gotta give a thumbs down here. It’s a 14 min video, and the actual content is from 8:30- 10:30. And that content is not insightful. How does he get paid? He gets paid a guaranteed rate every show. Some tours provide a per diem for food. Some folks save their per diem as much as possible, eating cheaply, to save up for gear. That’s it. That’s all the content in this 14 min video. No mention of, say, saving receipts so you can write that food or gear off on your taxes. Some good shots of their tour but look elsewhere for the finances of touring.
All tours provide Per Diems, not some.
Your drummer is great. I'm a professional jazz musician and I was really impressed with him especially.
Love your videos, dude! Coming from someone who chose Engineering as a career but always wanted to pursue Music, your channel inspires me to get out there in the knowledge that IT IS possible to make a living out of it. I deeply thank you for these videos! I will be grateful to you when, one day, I can be doing my biggest passion for a living.
Also an engineer, crushing music gigs in my spare time. It's very possible to do both and, hey, the engineering gig bankrolls a heck of a lot more gear. :)
Most musicians make their money through “their day job”
Loved the video, Todays touring acts are pretty screwed without the tricks of the trade. We subscribed and looking forward to seeing more.
Man I really loved this video. So transparent and refreshing to see how reflective you are. Very inspirational. And great playing too. Keep these coming please, if able. I think you might have more fans than you realize.
There are plenty of good guitar related channels, but what I do really like about yours, Rhett, is not only the really high quality content, but even more importantly the fact that you clearly are a genuinely nice person. If I decide to spend some time watching stuff on YT, that time is going to be dedicated to people I'd happily have a beer with, and you are definitely in that group!
This is quickly becoming one of my favorite RUclips channels. Really appreciate the effort and quality you are putting out.
Even if ur into shredy heavy guitar stuff. You can appreciate his tone
yeah every video i see of his live sounds really really nice.
The complaint generally isn't that those tones are "bad." It's that they are the past. Ola Englund calls Gibson and Fender guitars "Old Man Guitars."
Rhett sounds great, they all sound great, but they don't sound new.
@@dpb22 opinions vary
@@sleazoid99 Sure do.
@@dpb22 I have to agree with a portion of that opinion when it comes to Gibson gtrs, can't stand em in every way, Fenders just never get old so Ola can eff off on that one...I get that there's countless gtr companies/luthiers out there and its my opinion that unless a guitarist is designing/building/commissioning something truly one-of-a-kind and custom just for themselves, pretty much everything has been done innovation-wise in the gtr market. so pretty much everything is an 'old man guitar' unless its custom...idk I'm pretty high man.
Hey Rhett! After watching this video there's no way I could move on to another without mentioning how completely blown away I am by the SOLID musicianship and killer songwriting on display here! Man y'all were crushing it! Damn good stuff, my day is officially made...so refreshing to discover great new tunes/artists. Take care man! -J.J.
Thanks JJ!
Wow, hearing you perform "Whipping Post" I just realized how much rhythmic conversation is really happening between the Allman's two drummers when they play it.
U must have another group on the box
I totally agree with taking a few minutes before a show, just to be by myself in a quiet space, just to center myself.
Great series, Rhett! I enjoy all your videos. You always have great tones and guitar parts!
If time is tight, I do it while changing clothes just before performance, then my mind changes into performance mode, it never failed me ;-)
For the 30 years I was in & out of bands I made money by growing the only hydroponic skunk bud in town to support myself .
this makes the most sense out of everything
😂😂😂😂😂😂
the hard part is rationing out the elbow of stank stashed under the spare wheel in the van when you're on the road. you don't want it running out half way through the tour. not the kind of thing you can just put in the rider.
Finding your channel has really inspired me to start making music more with my buddies and push to find my own path in a music career, there’s no plan b.
Your tone is incredible man!
I am so glad you started doing this series of videos. I didn't realize how well you played before and I also find them very positive. Both of which are cool.
I was a touring drummer, and I must say ur one of the top 5 best guitar players I’ve ever heard. Thanks also for sharing because I always try to explain this to young musicians, and u hit the nail on the head..🎸🎼🎶🎶🎶🎶
Really?
Rhett Shull, living my best life. This is a great channel, pretty much every way.
*Best guitar content page on RUclips. The band sounds awesome, great reviews and demos, touring and rehearsal vlogs, studio recording vlogs, and tutorials. Rhett Shull two 👍👍up "BRUTHER"-in my Hulk Hogan's voice.*
This started as a perfect found footage ghost movie, including staying in the haunted hotel room. From that point, weird things could've started happening while on tour. Backstage mishaps and stuff like that. It could seriously be a movie. I would watch it.
You provide so much helpful information here, and it is really interesting. I liked your comments on the time you carve out to "center yourself" before performing, and to take a little alone time during touring a tour like this. You are inspiring.
How much do you get paid on the road?
Musician- Almost enough for gas!
And beer.
@@StaticisStranded2 True, when I played clubs a bar tab of some kind was almost always included. Should be a given, lol. Sometimes ALL we got paid! 🤘😂
Didn’t your mama teach you any manners. What a dumb ass question.
Very nice vid man, keep em coming! Bless you on your journey. Greater things ahead for you bro.
Rhett, Rick Beato and you are helping us out with your advice and experience. Thanks man!
This is cool Rhett.. It sort of dispels the myth that professional musicians just "fall" into a career because they are "blessed" with magical talent.. It takes dedication, study, and persistence and then you still have to struggle and learn to navigate the business structure of the entertainment industry and it's Managers, Legal representation, Companies, Non profits, Record Labels, Investors, Sponsors ..etc Most gigs don't offer 401K plans for support staff and musicians. (Per-Diem is a wonderful thing!) Thanks for your posts and efforts man!! Wishing you all the best and great success! :)
The production value you put into these touring videos is amazing.
I must say this is a great and ACCURATE video but I MUST point out how perfect everyones sounds and tones are.
Rhett, these videos are put together so well. Kudos on all the behind the scenes editing!
Your videos are great man... but I'm constantly impressed with how damn good you guys sound live.
I've recently started following your channel. I gotta' say, from the sound and your style, to the professionalism and attitude - you're the kind of artist I always wanted to be. Makes me wish I had pursued playing professionally harder.
That end tune was nice sounding. Very chill groove, I’m totally digging it.
Thanks for sharing Rhett, rock on!
2:48. It warms my heart to see a guitar with all its scuffs and chips (At least I think that's what they are). That thing sounds beautiful too!
I love these vlogs. I cannot get enough of them. I am a gigging musician based out of Maryland. I also own a Helix, but I never played it live. It's an amazing tool, but my danm feet are just to big and clumsy for working it in a live situation, I need a board with more space between the buttons, but if I had to for quick setup, I'd prob have to limit my pedal switching. Another awesome video.
I've stopped at that rest stop on I-81 in Virginia lots of times on my musical travels. Beautiful countryside there. And yes, a mid-March snow in PA is common. Best wishes on your tour.
always helps to have a spouse that pulls in a good income :)
Rhett, I've listened to the helix a lot and I think it usually sounds great. But you are the only one I've heard make it really sound "real". Dig it man.
Hey Rhett I've been watching numerous videos and this one is in my hometown and now it's definitely made up my mind to find my first guitar! I love the videos and the information you put in them. Wish me luck 🤘🏻
You guys are brave to live this life. My shout-out and best wishes to your band!!
This dude's voice is amaizing! Cheers from Brazil!
I have no idea who you are... but as I hope to be a working musician I found this to be one of the most informative videos ever. And yes, I subscribed! Time to binge watch your vids for the rest of the night.
Boy o boy, you and the band sound absolutely top shelf. Your playing is superb, your tones kick, kudos.
Really cool video Rhett, thanks for taking us along with you! Awesome to see what it's like behind the scenes. Keep doing it brother, cheers!
Hey Rhett great video, this channel is top notch. I respect all you have shared about real musician's life. Cool sounds out of the Helix, no patch cord nightmares on tour
Well first the band goes from vans to buses then separate bus for the band and gang. If the name gets a hit or two then the name gets their own bus. Then after no hits for a while then its back to everyone on the bus and you hit the fair circuit. County hit isn't like a mainstream hit money wise. That is why tour buses are leased because when the money runs out it's back to the van.
Helpful hint: almost everyone leases the buses now.
Matt Robin Do you think that’s because the commercial channels cycling through new music so quickly doesn’t have a chance to become a classic. Or because the songs are sort of forgettable. This same argument can be made against hip hop. Those two genres have the shortest shelf life.
This is cool it’s a lot like being a freelance film or video crew which is what I do and I’m just starting to get serious about music thank you!
I so enjoyed following you and the band! Very enlightening. Life on the road isn't all fun, can be stressful and tiring as you said.
Like he mentioned, I’ve seen some openers for bigger bands or early day festival gigs, that I go for the headliner. Then if I see a band I really liked open or on one of those early festival slots, I’ll possibly buy a ticket for a theater smaller gig when they roll back in town the following year. A lot of younger bands don’t understand...but unless you are a cover artist or wedding band, you gotta hit the road. However I do feel bad for bands that do house shows at art gigs and cone out negative majority of the time. But I guess if you do it long enough you’ll grow a small crowd and break even.
He starts to answer the main question at 8:27 into the video.
Thank you! I got to 8:04 and I was WTF?
Rhett your tone is f****** amazing. I am not much for country music. I have played and recorded with country bands but I would jump at the chance to play bass with yall just because of your drummer. He has got a great groove!!!!!! Plus you guys do AB Whipping Post that is super cool. Love the channel Brother...........You keep it REAL
Staring though that windshield is a lonely beautiful life! Play on brother, the world needs to hear it!
Really enjoyed that! Practical look at what a touring musician actually does.
Damn, you guys sound great! I’m loving the songs I’m hearing. I also liked the glance at the nonexistent watch on your wrist in this video. Good work you’re doing on your channel. I’m binging all your stuff now.
I love music, and playing guitar is incredibly enjoying and rewarding to me. I see some commenters here remarking about this video portraying a life they wish they could leave. Not so for me. All that traveling and being on the road so much would wear me out quickly. I like occasional travel, but a touring musician's life would drag me down. Which only makes me more grateful that there are folks like Rhett who (1) are incredibly talented, and (2) enjoy this lifestyle. Pretty much every time I go to hear a live show (which is often!), I think to myself: I'm so glad there are people that enjoy (or at least can endure) the musician's lifestyle. Because what y'all do brings me a *lot* of joy! Thanks for the glimpse in your world (and great video and editing work, BTW). -Tom
Rhett i dont think u need exposure via someone else or their band. Not at this point. You are a phenomenal player. If i seen your name on a local marquee, id be dropping some cash and walking my happy ass inside. Rock on my friend.
Your tone with the Helix is so good! I've been doing the hired gun thing with a band similar to what you're doing with Noah. And you are 100% right, those 15 minutes alone are something that can keep your sanity on the road. Thanks for your videos, Rhett!
You’re awesome man! I play for my church and a few gigs out and about.
I really enjoy your content and your playing.
I do the same thing. Playing with the worship team, and occasionally doing a solo. Otherwise, I'll be playing for large venues with the local Mission on holidays. Churches and the Missions are not paid gigs. I do them because I love playing and really enjoy playing for God and the people. Finally I also enjoy playing at Senior centers, coffee shops, rest homes.etc. Most of this last group I play for will be paid venues on a case by case basis.
Sounded great man! That version of Whipping Post was sweet!
I've seen a couple of these videos,I like em Alot.
Makes me feel like I'm right there,on stage and trying out guitars ,amps,and gear.
I play Bass myself and have been fortunate enough to play with some
Truly Awsome musicians over the years.Keep on Playing and inspiring others.
That drummer is rad. I'd watch that whole drum cam video.
How do you collect in the event you don’t get paid? Who do you name as a defendant? Do you make quarterly tax payments? Health insurance? Retirement? Gross receipts? What is deductible? Know a musician who’s been audited? Who decides how much you get paid? Is that a source of friction? How do you get a raise? How do you qualify for credit when you’re showing little or no income?
walter kersting -The health insurance is easy, you get married and get through her!
Rhett, great video, keep making these touring video's! Love to get more of these touring tips! Wishing you all the best
I’m always fascinated about the realities of being a touring musician today. Growing up o thought that it was non stop partying and girls like how the big rock acts portray it to be.
Nice video! You made me realize that you have to pack all your instruments & take with you (I know dumb comment). You show how much work it is to drive & haul. Having known a professional musician, I know how hard a life that is. Then I watch you & thank you for showing all the details, pay, travel, comrades & friends on the road. Then towards the end...Woo hoo...Whipping Post! Nice band
Respect for givin' us a sneak peak on the daily life of a bona-fide professional musician! Keep on livin' the dream for me and everyone of us... even though it requires a sacrifice and barrelling thru the grind. At least you got the chance to express yourself... 😏😑
Another really great video....really appreciate the way they're shot and edited, too.
I really like what you guys are doing. Noah's vocals sound great. I am not much of a fan of the new style country but the songs and delivery by Noah (and the band) sounds great! Big props for this Rhett.
I was suprised by your filmmaking in this video, really smooth transitions! Well done!
Thank you for your videos! Had to push pause during the intro to this one to say that those drums sound so good! That kick!
Pretty cool when you said Greensburg, PA and walked into the Palace Theater. My daughter just had a dance recital there back in May. Hope our hometown treated you right!
so well made....love it..!!! ENJOY ALL.....the moments.......you are making GREAT memories !
Really enjoy these vid's. Thanks for taking the time to bring us viewers, in a small way, into your world. Best Rgds.
One other thought...Noah has a great voice & I love the original songs. I hope you guys prosper & have success!
Dude you guys kill "Whipping Post" ! Great job.
So it’s pretty much assumed Noah was losing money in the small towns like Calhoun. Again he was trying to get exposure and experience but ouch that has to be discouraging sometimes. I’m really happy you guys are hooked up with Dwight and have a full room!
You know what’s crazy...I get to open up for a show and play before you guys in Hobart Indiana in June...after listening to Noah sing u play, I hardly feel worthy. But.not gonna give into the fear in my ear...all the good things are on the other side of the fear...Absolutely awesome video sir. Thank u🎸🔥🔥🔥🎤
Awesome man! No need to be nervous, we’re just dudes that play and sing, just like you! Come say hey!
When uncomfortable on stage on a strange place remeber you have your boys and your music to just feel at home and get lost in it.
Lol yes it’s snows in March in pa haha it sucks... used to love the snow now in my older age I just let my son love it enough for both of us haha you guys are rocking out man... that helix is awesome...
Never watched this video before...I was in jail when you made it. But the editing is really good man. The 90 people who gave thumbs down might have something wrong with them.
Sounding great Rhett- love the Noah Gutherie band. Thanks for the look
Thanks for talking about this. No one ever does which makes it kind of difficult to figure out.
Yep! It's nice that you can make a living as a musician. That's kinda not possible in Serbia, unless you bend over to play "folk" notevenmusic.
To quote Dylan Moran from one episode of Black Books:"I'm a quitter! I come from a long line of quitters! It's amazing I'm here at all"!
Can't stop drumming. It's a passion.
Looking forward to traveling again.....I have seen the days of splitting tips, and happy to add to base pay for the night.....good ole days !
Hello, new subscriber here. I’m a saxophonist who spent 13 years on the road playing resorts, casinos, playboy clubs, etc. I went on the road at 17 years old in 1976. I loved it then but at 60 I want very little touring. I’ve hooked up with 4-5 wedding bands as a hired gun or just an extra body to fulfill contractual obligations. While there are no saxophones on this channel I’m enjoying it very much.
you sound so great with the lapsteel slide, awesome channel also
I guess it be a good video on not just playing live but how to perform and share the spotlight with the other members of the band and also still make yourself stand out......