Another use for the venerable wire coat hanger . Stay wire , cable fish wire and belt installer to name but a few . It's an unsung hero of trades and diy .
In a pinch on a new Silverado stretch belt need a special tool for it I used a hose clamp with tape around it so it would not cut the new belt it worked and never had any problems since then with the same truck
I don't care what anybody says, Ray you're a genius! You saved time and money. I looked up the tool and found pictures of it in use. They were using it on the larger crankshaft pulley. I think the way you did it just makes more sense. No fancy and expensive tool required!
did I mention great use of the mechanics friend "coat hanger" and amazing camera angle.... i could see everything... belt noise on an old Fiat, opened hood and some one had replaced the long alternator pivot bolt with a wooden stick.... no clue how many miles on the stick...
My 92 new Yorker likes to throw the belt off when i hit a puddle in the passenger side, it's done it so many times that I've figured out how to put it in quickly with no tools. I feed it back on all the pulleys except the ac compressor, and then walk it onto the ac compressor pulley. I'm sure it's not *good* for the belt, but on the side of the road it's pretty fast
Ray, being a shade tree mechanic for many years I find most of what you do is way beyond my level but the coat hanger belt technique is something I can handle, thanks for the insight. I would let you work on any of my autos, wish I lived closer to Florida.
That coat hanger hack is why I really enjoy your videos, Raymond! One of those zip ties would have worked as well. Any way its moot it did the trick and done. Without the expense or the wait for the customer.
How you found a wire hanger is just as amazing. I have not seen one of those in years. Just stupid plastic and wooden ones her at my house. I miss the das wen you had a versatile tool hanging in the closet. Now I just cut up a couple of dog crates my son didn’t want. I cut them up to keep the long pieces. Bravo sir oldie but goody.
I enjoyed video so much it put right to sleep, then I had to rewind and watch again. The cause of falling asleep could be combination of lap-top, recliner, retirement and listening to a mechanic with a story time voice..............
I’m the original owner of a 2009 Flex, same engine. I bought the tool for the PS pump, it didn’t work well. I use a couple of zip ties to hold the belt in place. Works great!
I have never purchased a tool to do these jobs even on the 2000 through 2007 Ford Taurus. You just take an extra strong zip tie and it works every time.
I drive a 2010 Ford Escape. It threw me for a loop with the water pump belt. When my water pump died, the belt ripped. For a split second I thought the serpentine was shredded and I panicked. But then I looked to the left and saw a perfectly good serpentine belt. The car survived the water pump failure without overheating btw. 230,000 miles and still going strong!
I have a bunch of 3/4" threaded black pipe for pipe clamps that I use for cheater bars. Take your favorite wrenches to home depot, find the size that fits and buy a variety of lengths.
@@KHALABEEB There are a couple versions of these. One for a single pulley and one for a double one as seen here. But agreed, at less than $15 for either of them, they should be in any mechanics toolbox. They are much simpler to use as well.
When you are repainting your shop, seriously think about a GOOD epoxy white floor. I worked at a hangar with regular floors and had all the staining and harder to sweep. A new epoxy floor was put down and wow! The whole hangar was brighter and reflected light up towards the bottoms of the planes. No more staining and sweeping was a breeze. Never realized how much dirty concrete absorbed the light. Have fun power washing the walls, can't wait to see you in a Tyvek suit. I'm subscribed and have fun watching you fix easy to get to cars. I joke as getting to some equipment in an airplane is just nuts. The panel is here but the part is over there or hanging upside down in a cockpit to get under the instrument panel. I liked "Face Off" also.
My brother worked in aviation for years and the struggle bus was a regular stopper. He said there was a starter/generator on a Twin Otter that took two people to change . One on top and one under. Problem was the person on top couldn't reach if they had anything on their arms. He worked for a commuter airline operating out of Omaha general aviation area and that place 8s down on the Missouri River and the wind never stops and that had to do the job in winter at below zero wind chill.
@@kenore4003 I was a Navy Aviation Electronics Tech.(AT) Messy work in a hangar bay/flight deck. In the Navy, you WILL work on the whole a/c, ie. help pull fuselage fuel cells and drop engines. Honorable discharge and got a good job for a FBO. Civil a/c are much much cleaner to work on.
Something we used to do on cotton gin belts was to tie a rope around the belt, pull on it in the proper direction (or tie to pulley), and turn the driver to roll the belt onto the pulley. Similar to other suggestions, but the rope can be pretty much any diameter or material, sisal, poly, nylon, etc.
I was thinking of using bell wire (doorbell). Doesn’t have the tensile strength of the coat hanger, but if you used several strands together it might work also. Easy to twist. Zip tie method others mentioned is good. I use bell wire for lots of things. Easy to get at Lowe’s and H. D.
When we started off in our shop, we used to keep the old parts to show the customers. We did it routinely for a while. They also see the reason[s] why a part was replaced, like the fault sin the serpentine belt.
You should look into a roll of bailing wire. It's not expensive, it's very sturdy, but it's a lot more manageable than a coat hanger. One roll would probably last you months if not years.
@@Onewheelordeal yeah we use it for everything here. We expanded on "if you can't fix it with duct tape and a butterknife" to include bailing wire and a hammer (sometimes just smacking something with a hammer gets it going). But for the bailing wire, we use it for everything. Hanging brake calipers, holding back wiring harnesses, as binding twist ties, for range fencing (cattle and horses to boot), barbwire too,but you've gotta use the fencing staples too. I even use it to snake wires and plumbing. It's magical. And anything that needs hung temporarily? It's awesome.
@@Wakeupandsniffthecoffee yup scarce and expensive. I think I paid $7.99 for my bailing wire, but it's been like 8 years so it's probably closer to $20 for a similar roll. Still though, 8 years of utility for under $20 was worth it. Last time I bought metal hangers it was near $50 for 25.
Nice entertainment, from a man who loves his job, your firing from your previous job was the best thing that could happen to you and your family, keep posting on RUclips. have a nice day.😀👍
Tell you a much easier way to install that stretch belt and this is per the Ford service manual. Take a couple of zip ties through the belt and secure it through the holes on the pulley and rotate the crank and the belt will walk itself onto the pulley. Works like a charm every time. I've done countless of these repairs with no issues at all. That way you don't have to mess around with a coat hanger.
Even though the A/C line was holding the "breaker bar" and keeping the tensioner pulley retracted, for safety's sake I would tie the handle off to that hole in the rad frame where you had the bungee. Nothing worse than being under the vehicle with your hands near the pulleys and having that tensioner pop back onto the belt!
Yea those tensioners can be a pain so I don’t bother to mess with em, just roll the belt off and roll the new one on just as if it was a stretch belt.. works well
I'll probably never be in a situation that I need it but the knowledge that the Edge, if its AWD or 4WD ,is FWD priority, and off the list of acceptable vehicles.
Hi Ray, those inner wheel well ‘plastic retainer clips’ are actually called ‘Scrivets’. Thanks for your excellent content, I look forward to it daily with my morning coffee in Oz.
Good morning Ray. I have a 2010 Ford Edge Sport AWD with 181k. The 3.5 is a very solid and clean engine from my experience. Great to see you work on one. Also have yourself a great day.
Be wary of the water pump in those engines. They a timing chain driven and when they go its over due to the crankcase filling up with coolant. Number one reason for engine failure in the 3.5. Would recommend a water pump at 100k.
@@thk7513 There is a weep hole for the water pump right near the alternator. If I owned a car with one of those engines (Taurus, MKZ, Edge, Flex, maybe some others) I would do a quick inspection twice weekly for any seepage from that hole. Left to leak for an extended period of time, coolant will get in the oil and grenade your engine.
13 years with 181k is junk because of the water pump internal? Are all timing belt engines junk just because they could break which for a lot of engines they are toast too if that happens? I had the water pump replaced at 105k. I would not call this engine junk compare what I see with other brands and other engines within Ford ie 1.5 Ecoboost. Most likely the engine will last longer than the transmission. It’s been a reliable vehicle and that is all I could ever want. 😎
@@kevincurry4735 I agree, it is definitely not a junk engine. The internal water pump is just a quirk that the owner needs to be aware of an keep an eye on. There were 10s of thousands of these engines produced in various models...the number of engine failures due to the water pump is probably a very low percentage of them.
Did one of these on a Ford flex with the wide plastic ties first time I saw or ever heard of these at my home garage. My daily is class 8 Freightliners never seen these before so I bought the tool 2 wedges to remove and install these. Bought this tool 5 years ago never used it once because never saw one of these again.
Absolutely brilliant result Ray you are simply a great mechanic you are simply using the skills to do a great repair 20 out of 10 cheers Declan 👍👍
Use a zip tie or 2 instead of the wire. The zip tie will break when the belt is on. No need to cut the coat hanger.
That was my first thought,👍2nd maybe hose clamp
Nice. Should have thought of that myself, I'll remember that for next time however.
That way you don’t have to explain to the wife what happened to her favourite coat hanger
I’ve had good success with HD wire ties.
Thats pretty much the go to. Maybe he used all the zip its on the toyota wire connectors and coil plugs
Wife Unit: "Ray, what happened to all the coat hangers?"
Ray: 🤔
It’s Florida they melted😎
@@squiggyg.8415 no, backstreet abortionists bought them all since safe & legal health care got banned...
Good question!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
They ran off with the paperclips.
You are a better man than me. I hear "I need to buy a tool" and my eyes light up! Awesome trick with the hanger.
Then buy another tool and still use the tie slip on method lol
Yes I’m not the only one with quite a few tools I only used once but they look good in the tool box.
Can't start my day without some "Ray."
Not sure about over there but here in the UK ford like to use 18.5mm wheel nuts.
Another use for the venerable wire coat hanger . Stay wire , cable fish wire and belt installer to name but a few . It's an unsung hero of trades and diy .
In a pinch on a new Silverado stretch belt need a special tool for it I used a hose clamp with tape around it so it would not cut the new belt it worked and never had any problems since then with the same truck
"How many times have I told you NO MORE WIRE Hangers!!" good vid ray, thanks for the share.
I had a flashback to the same scene.
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I don't care what anybody says, Ray you're a genius! You saved time and money. I looked up the tool and found pictures of it in use. They were using it on the larger crankshaft pulley. I think the way you did it just makes more sense. No fancy and expensive tool required!
Zip tie would be a lot easier without damaging the belt
did I mention great use of the mechanics friend "coat hanger" and amazing camera angle.... i could see everything... belt noise on an old Fiat, opened hood and some one had replaced the long alternator pivot bolt with a wooden stick.... no clue how many miles on the stick...
Michelin tires? Preventive maintenance? I like this customer! You need more like this one.
My 92 new Yorker likes to throw the belt off when i hit a puddle in the passenger side, it's done it so many times that I've figured out how to put it in quickly with no tools. I feed it back on all the pulleys except the ac compressor, and then walk it onto the ac compressor pulley. I'm sure it's not *good* for the belt, but on the side of the road it's pretty fast
Seriously Ray I think I owe you money you taught me so many tricks and tips I actually use. Thank you
Morning video with My coffee. Thanks Ray don't get any better than this.
Ray, being a shade tree mechanic for many years I find most of what you do is way beyond my level but the coat hanger belt technique is something I can handle, thanks for the insight. I would let you work on any of my autos, wish I lived closer to Florida.
Hey Rainman made a metal version of the commonly used zip tie .. Way to go Jimmy
always knows he is a smart man, top mechanic in panhandle.
@@forgetfulme1719 He's not in the pan handle
😂
It was your charm and wit while teaching that made me subscribe a long time ago.
It is very nice when a customer takes care to have the vehicle maintained. I like your special tool. Well done!
That coat hanger hack is why I really enjoy your videos, Raymond! One of those zip ties would have worked as well. Any way its moot it did the trick and done. Without the expense or the wait for the customer.
Good idea for zip tie .Rain man you're still an awesome teacher.
How you found a wire hanger is just as amazing. I have not seen one of those in years. Just stupid plastic and wooden ones her at my house. I miss the das wen you had a versatile tool hanging in the closet. Now I just cut up a couple of dog crates my son didn’t want. I cut them up to keep the long pieces. Bravo sir oldie but goody.
I enjoyed video so much it put right to sleep, then I had to rewind and watch again. The cause of falling asleep could be combination of lap-top, recliner, retirement and listening to a mechanic with a story time voice..............
Like the old style, "Outer Limits" graphic at the end....sure brings back memories.
I’m the original owner of a 2009 Flex, same engine. I bought the tool for the PS pump, it didn’t work well. I use a couple of zip ties to hold the belt in place. Works great!
I have never purchased a tool to do these jobs even on the 2000 through 2007 Ford Taurus. You just take an extra strong zip tie and it works every time.
This car is in fantastic condition so clean underneath.
Owner is Smart. Get rid of those old, stiff, junky belts....smooth now....great work!
Nice to see you doing a relatively easy job! They do happen, but in my day, they were the exception. Have a good work day, and enjoy your time off!
I drive a 2010 Ford Escape. It threw me for a loop with the water pump belt. When my water pump died, the belt ripped. For a split second I thought the serpentine was shredded and I panicked. But then I looked to the left and saw a perfectly good serpentine belt. The car survived the water pump failure without overheating btw. 230,000 miles and still going strong!
I have a bunch of 3/4" threaded black pipe for pipe clamps that I use for cheater bars. Take your favorite wrenches to home depot, find the size that fits and buy a variety of lengths.
Ingenious idea ray
It's about time you had an easy job! You definitely deserved it!!! 😊
Good work Ray as always,Best regards from Sweden👍
Good job my friend
Great work Ray. Screw those specialty tool manufactures & their crazy prices!
Agreed... But, they're 10 bucks on Amazon🤣
@@KHALABEEB There are a couple versions of these. One for a single pulley and one for a double one as seen here. But agreed, at less than $15 for either of them, they should be in any mechanics toolbox. They are much simpler to use as well.
I’m doing to my 2017 Sportage. Was going to use the zip tie method. Good to see another approach
Thanks for the slip belt detaching trip.
that was great I've never seen someone use a coat hanger for a car (we've all used them for other stuff) but never a car very cool nice job
I miss you doing the doodle-di-doo when the phone used to ring. But I'm super happy for you having your own shop! Livin' on the Edge! :)
Hanger wire or zip tie . I learned something today, Thanks.
Great way to put your knowledge to the test without the special tool
When you are repainting your shop, seriously think about a GOOD epoxy white floor. I worked at a hangar with regular floors and had all the staining and harder to sweep. A new epoxy floor was put down and wow! The whole hangar was brighter and reflected light up towards the bottoms of the planes. No more staining and sweeping was a breeze. Never realized how much dirty concrete absorbed the light. Have fun power washing the walls, can't wait to see you in a Tyvek suit.
I'm subscribed and have fun watching you fix easy to get to cars. I joke as getting to some equipment in an airplane is just nuts. The panel is here but the part is over there or hanging upside down in a cockpit to get under the instrument panel. I liked "Face Off" also.
My brother worked in aviation for years and the struggle bus was a regular stopper. He said there was a starter/generator on a Twin Otter that took two people to change . One on top and one under. Problem was the person on top couldn't reach if they had anything on their arms. He worked for a commuter airline operating out of Omaha general aviation area and that place 8s down on the Missouri River and the wind never stops and that had to do the job in winter at below zero wind chill.
@@kenore4003 I was a Navy Aviation Electronics Tech.(AT) Messy work in a hangar bay/flight deck. In the Navy, you WILL work on the whole a/c, ie. help pull fuselage fuel cells and drop engines. Honorable discharge and got a good job for a FBO. Civil a/c are much much cleaner to work on.
The belts are “Running hot,straight, and true “! Lol 😂
I use a block of wood between the inner wing and the pully to guide the stretch belt on.
Something we used to do on cotton gin belts was to tie a rope around the belt, pull on it in the proper direction (or tie to pulley), and turn the driver to roll the belt onto the pulley. Similar to other suggestions, but the rope can be pretty much any diameter or material, sisal, poly, nylon, etc.
Good old Floor jack handle As a cheater pipe Very Classic Move I use it all the time @Rainman Ray's Repairs
An excellent mechanic will always make a tool if he doesn’t have the tool he needs for the job. Great job Ray. 👍👍
I was thinking of using bell wire (doorbell). Doesn’t have the tensile strength of the coat hanger, but if you used several strands together it might work also. Easy to twist. Zip tie method others mentioned is good. I use bell wire for lots of things. Easy to get at Lowe’s and H. D.
Hey Ray , We use zip ties on the pully hole around the belt and its quick and easy
Ray Bay, your my favorite part in the morning..Right next to the 1/2 § 1/2 and coffee.
I always look forward to your videos love them.
When we started off in our shop, we used to keep the old parts to show the customers. We did it routinely for a while. They also see the reason[s] why a part was replaced, like the fault sin the serpentine belt.
You should look into a roll of bailing wire. It's not expensive, it's very sturdy, but it's a lot more manageable than a coat hanger. One roll would probably last you months if not years.
My dad left me his roll I'm still using, makes a great cotter pin in a pinch too
Lock wire with twist pliers would make that so much easier.
@@Onewheelordeal yeah we use it for everything here. We expanded on "if you can't fix it with duct tape and a butterknife" to include bailing wire and a hammer (sometimes just smacking something with a hammer gets it going).
But for the bailing wire, we use it for everything. Hanging brake calipers, holding back wiring harnesses, as binding twist ties, for range fencing (cattle and horses to boot), barbwire too,but you've gotta use the fencing staples too. I even use it to snake wires and plumbing. It's magical. And anything that needs hung temporarily? It's awesome.
Besides, metal coat hangers are getting scarce. All mine are plastic these days.
@@Wakeupandsniffthecoffee yup scarce and expensive. I think I paid $7.99 for my bailing wire, but it's been like 8 years so it's probably closer to $20 for a similar roll. Still though, 8 years of utility for under $20 was worth it.
Last time I bought metal hangers it was near $50 for 25.
Well that seemed to go pretty smoothly. Nice!
That’s a good tip. My Fusion is due for new belts. I think one is a stretch belt. It’s good to know how to do it. Thank you.
Nice entertainment, from a man who loves his job, your firing from your previous job was the best thing that could happen to you and your family, keep posting on RUclips. have a nice day.😀👍
I’ve used folded sandpaper before for grip while installing.
allways impressed with your little tricks !! 🙂
Good job Dan👍
You need to put a "Ray's Auto Clinic" sign on the building.
Great video!
Hey Ray.. Looking forward to this video as always. Got the heater on here in Victoria Australia. It's a tad Chilly :-)
3 degrees c over here in south aus
Chilly here in Brisbane, Australia too!
Jealous of that Florida weather right now
@@mickmc8737 agreed
@@mickmc8737 96 degrees F with a heat index of over 100 F in central Florida, not that pleasant, would love some chilly weather now.
Just trust your ninjanuity you are the best mechanic out there 🤘🤛
Tell you a much easier way to install that stretch belt and this is per the Ford service manual. Take a couple of zip ties through the belt and secure it through the holes on the pulley and rotate the crank and the belt will walk itself onto the pulley. Works like a charm every time. I've done countless of these repairs with no issues at all. That way you don't have to mess around with a coat hanger.
I have always used screwdrivers under the belt and turn the crank to remove and fit a stretch belt
Couple of cable ties instead of coat-hanger maybe? (must be a good idea cause they go Click, click, click when you use them)
Even though the A/C line was holding the "breaker bar" and keeping the tensioner pulley retracted, for safety's sake I would tie the handle off to that hole in the rad frame where you had the bungee. Nothing worse than being under the vehicle with your hands near the pulleys and having that tensioner pop back onto the belt!
Your videos became my daily top ...
Thanks Ray 😊 🎉
Yea those tensioners can be a pain so I don’t bother to mess with em, just roll the belt off and roll the new one on just as if it was a stretch belt.. works well
That was about the cleanest car you’ve had in the shop. Even the tires shined.
WOW! You still have wire coat hangers. In the UK they've all been used up as gas welding rods 🙂
Nice job on the toolage the the belt. Sometime s we can do what it needs with just a little ingenuity
ingenious bit of work ,thanks for the GREAT video
I'll probably never be in a situation that I need it but the knowledge that the Edge, if its AWD or 4WD ,is FWD priority, and off the list of acceptable vehicles.
I use 2 zip ties to fit my stretch belts on my 2.2 tdci ford transit easy and self removing once the belt fits on
Zip ties work !! Multiple (6-8) for serpent belt.
Hi Ray, those inner wheel well ‘plastic retainer clips’ are actually called ‘Scrivets’.
Thanks for your excellent content, I look forward to it daily with my morning coffee in Oz.
I use a zip tie. It's got a little more flex than the hanger but still effective
Interesting special tool! Nice to see it was Gates belt. My fave. As always, a great video and a thank you from me. 😁
Good morning Mr Ray hope y'all have a great day
It works
Well done. Another job completed to a high standard
You can use an open ended long spanner on that tensioner also. The square nub just above where you put your ratchet.
Your button sticker worked on me, I dig it
I worked on a 2011 Ford edge over the last few years brakes spark plugs etc
The infamous Ford swollen lugs is the reason I got the socket set that fits half sizes like a 19.5
No tool? Mechanical thinking! Great job Ray!
Great job Ray
Nice work! Hanger trick!
That's amazing 👏 🎉.. great job Ray
Welcoming back!
Good job Ray
the sticker defo works Ray another great video as always but the most important thing is to have yourself a great day Ray
you could also use a big zip tie.
My 2021 Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi etorque haa that same stretch belt from the crank to the water pump
I always use a big thick zip tie works every time.
Good morning Ray. I have a 2010 Ford Edge Sport AWD with 181k. The 3.5 is a very solid and clean engine from my experience. Great to see you work on one. Also have yourself a great day.
Be wary of the water pump in those engines. They a timing chain driven and when they go its over due to the crankcase filling up with coolant. Number one reason for engine failure in the 3.5. Would recommend a water pump at 100k.
@@thk7513 There is a weep hole for the water pump right near the alternator. If I owned a car with one of those engines (Taurus, MKZ, Edge, Flex, maybe some others) I would do a quick inspection twice weekly for any seepage from that hole. Left to leak for an extended period of time, coolant will get in the oil and grenade your engine.
It’s a junk engine, especially the internal water pump. I don’t know why people change the belts. They outlast the engine.
13 years with 181k is junk because of the water pump internal? Are all timing belt engines junk just because they could break which for a lot of engines they are toast too if that happens? I had the water pump replaced at 105k. I would not call this engine junk compare what I see with other brands and other engines within Ford ie 1.5 Ecoboost. Most likely the engine will last longer than the transmission. It’s been a reliable vehicle and that is all I could ever want. 😎
@@kevincurry4735 I agree, it is definitely not a junk engine. The internal water pump is just a quirk that the owner needs to be aware of an keep an eye on. There were 10s of thousands of these engines produced in various models...the number of engine failures due to the water pump is probably a very low percentage of them.
Did one of these on a Ford flex with the wide plastic ties first time I saw or ever heard of these at my home garage. My daily is class 8 Freightliners never seen these before so I bought the tool 2 wedges to remove and install these. Bought this tool 5 years ago never used it once because never saw one of these again.
That was a fairly clean car for its age. Nice.
Great idea on the belt