Thanks for your perspective on this difficult subject. Its such an individual thing based on your circumstances and ethics.. My video was really just to encourage kindness and more thoughtful responses.. Im pleased to have found you through this tag 💜🌷
Thank you for watching! I love how everyone tackled the discussion from different perspectives. It really allows our viewers to get so much range of the topic. I loved your video and your focus on personal responsibility when in a community. Happy to have found your channel! ✨💖
19:17 While I understand where Mixtress and yourself are coming from, if you're watching a youtuber who is not from the US but they state the price from their country, you're still going to have to look up the deck to see what the price is in your country. I personally don't care if someone states the price or not as long as they show what I'm looking for in an unboxing or flip-through or review (the cards and the guidebook structure), I personally can look up the price of the deck myself.
Knock-offs are the worst. They fund criminal organizations, human trafficking, and who knows what other crimes and acts. Of course, they also hurt artists and authors who earn nothing from those knock offs. And this issue is so rampant.
Amazing video covering various points💯 I don't understand why people complain about the prices of things, when there is a WIDE range of low to high end prices for all budgets. It's not just tarot, it's also clothes, tech, makeup, food, every product AND service on Earth. If something isn't affordable for someones budget, they're not obligated to get it. If they really want it, they can save up. I've always been someone on a tight budget having to be selective of what I could buy and what's truly important, so I only buy decks under $20 and saved up to buy Vanessa's Pastel Journey for over $40. Most of my deck collection has been gifted in exchange for tarot readings. A few were knockoffs, because people don't know art like I do. I'm also on the side where I wouldn't intentionally purchase a knockoff (or Ai deck), because I value the experience and work that goes into creating 78 individual freakin art pieces. The issue is not tarot creators, it's capitalism since the beginning of time. It's the reason the rich get richer through exploitation and manipulation, and everyone else feels pressure to buy buy buy all the things(especially now that it's easier at the click of a button). Then people throw away their morals by joining in the exploiting or are trying to compete within trends to get noticed(on social media, RUclips, & seller platforms). The point of Spirituality is to live in peace within and without, to live consciously, to ascend together. We're not taking any of our material possessions with us after death. What matters is what we did with our lives
I understand complaining about food, or other necessities because, well we NEED them. No one NEEDS a tarot deck! So, to me, there's no amount of rationalization that will make stealing from creators okay. I totally agree that this isn't a tarot specific issue, but a capitalism specific issue. That's the point that I (hopefully) got across haha. Thank you for watching and commenting btw!
@CosmicLunarSoul ah! You're totally right about that one🤦♀️😅 I was literally talking with someone recently about how every human should have necessities(food, shelter, healthcare). But yes, I agree with so much from your video, so I joined in the conversation😊
I'm pretty sure your mother had HSN and you could watch that all day. Additionally, we found shopping at the mall enjoyable due to the amazing sales and having all the stores in one place. It reflects how the U.S. is a consumer-driven country where purchasing goods helps stimulate the economy.
I'm not sure why you'd assume my family watched HSN, but I'll have to ask my mom if she enjoyed going to the mall. By the time I was an adult with adult money malls were dying out so my memory of going to malls was to hang out with my friends. 🤷🏾♀️ Thanks for watching though lol
This was such an interesting discussion! I’m honestly still rather new to tarot, but I’m so glad that you and some of the other tarot channels I watch have talked about the difference between real and knockoff decks. I purchased what I thought was going to be a beautiful deck many years ago in the very early days of eBay and essentially got scammed, so I’ve always been afraid to try for another deck. Hopefully, I can use these tips to find a real deck for myself one day! As for consumerism, I feel like just being on RUclips makes dancing along that line difficult. I try to promote the idea that using what we already have or getting things secondhand is best (mostly with regards to clothing and crafting), but even then, I’ve found that the videos that perform best are almost always hauls of some sort. The algorithm loves encouraging people to be in a buying mood, it seems. Thanks for the suggestions on where to find affordable decks!
Thank you for watching! I am SO sorry that happened to you. I've seen it happen time and time again and I know how hard it is for a first time experience. I should do a video on how to spot scam/knockoffs. Because it can be scary to try again once you've been burned. And you're welcome for the tips! Thanks for the inspo for the new video. RUclips *_DEFINITELY_* encourages consumerism. I'm well aware my channel more or less promotes it as do all flip through/unboxing channels do. So I feel your pain with the algorithm. I try to throw in discussions in the same niche (i.e. this video) so that way, hopefully people are brought to my channel for the fun flip throughs but stay for the thoughtful videos.
First of all, I am humbled by your mention and shoutout. I enjoyed your perspective, and money saving tips. Now about the knockoffs. When I first got involved with tarot tube, I was gifted decks from friends encouraging me to go for it. They did not know the difference and to be honest, in the beginning neither did I. I was gifted some knockoffs (purchased on Amazon) and was happy because they were smaller decks and was more usable for my small hands. Now, I know better. I agree with your viewpoint that it's theft. I kept one of them as my "travel" deck because it the same size as a MM pocket size of the same deck. The others I don't know what to do with. The ones I really connected with, I've purchased replacement standard size decks. I'm now hesitant to consider a pocket edition unless I can buy the directly from creator.
You're welcome!! Thank you for watching and commenting. I totally get your point. I definitely only look down on it when people are knowingly buying knockoffs. Unfortunately scammers are really good at what they do so I'll never fault anyone for mistakingly buying one. I honestly wish there was a better method of reporting those issues to Amazon. Again thank you for watching and commenting! 😍
Yea honestly if you save a deck or keep it in your cart, you'll know when the price drops! Publishers are always having sales as well. Like Hay House is doing their 50% off Semi Annual sale right now
Good video. ❤ I do believe though, anything is only original once….from that point on, it is only a copy. I haven’t created a tarot deck, yet…but I have created music and we sold 500 hundred copies of our cd…that was all we had produced…lol…small time stuff 😊 But, regardless, I still own rights to that music, in which, if anyone wanted to use that music they would then have to pay for the right to use it, or copy it. If they did not pay, then yes it would be theft….but, as a creator…I would encourage the sale of the right to use my creation…because I would then receive a royalty from that. Would that be the same for the art in a tarot deck? I cannot say for sure. I know that you can buy copies of famous paintings, also. So whoever owns the right to the original would be paid? Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this ❤
I personally don't know how that works legally for tarot in any place other than the US. But here if you have proof you created something first regardless if it's trademarked or copywrited, you are still the owner and can sue counterfeiters. The problem is that it costs money. And for me, bottom line it's theft so if someone is okay with stealing from small/medium creators then they are not my kind of people.
Yes, I believe the creators of their decks own the rights and can be paid royalties under contract from publishing houses or if they sell wholesale to sellers. But knockoff decks could possibly be unregulated, same as other knockoff products that are printed without authorization and without paying the rights owners. Although, now I'm wondering if they really are knockoffs, because I'm sure the original rights owners would definitely sue anyone they didn't license to🤔 It's very easy to catch mass printed deck copies
@@VelvetKatOfficial yes! Exactly! I look intentionally now for a place to file a copyright claim. And Walmart even has one. Amazon and Etsy advertise now that they have one. If I was a creator of something that was in danger of copyright infringement, I would definitely be searching for it. And if I can find something si easy as a possible knock off tarot deck...so can the creator. Or should we do that for them. 🤷♀️ I would not be proud of myself for buying a knock off....but, I have to ask myself...how has it become so easy? It cost zero dollars to file a copyright claim.
Your point about speed vs quality vs expense was really poignant. Not something that gets addressed very often. ❤ I am also not ok with knock offs...though, in my case, its not something that will break a friendship. I dont know why but i suspect its because i lack energy to address it when it comes up. 🤔
Thank you for watching! I figured that I should use my experience with project management for something useful haha I always have the energy to argue with people, which probably isn't a good thing 😅
Thanks so much for your conscientious VR to my video. I really enjoyed listening to your thoughts!
Thank you! 😊
36:50 The RWS are in the public domain everywhere as anyone can create an altered deck using the original artwork.
Thanks for your perspective on this difficult subject. Its such an individual thing based on your circumstances and ethics.. My video was really just to encourage kindness and more thoughtful responses..
Im pleased to have found you through this tag 💜🌷
Thank you for watching! I love how everyone tackled the discussion from different perspectives. It really allows our viewers to get so much range of the topic. I loved your video and your focus on personal responsibility when in a community. Happy to have found your channel! ✨💖
19:17 While I understand where Mixtress and yourself are coming from, if you're watching a youtuber who is not from the US but they state the price from their country, you're still going to have to look up the deck to see what the price is in your country.
I personally don't care if someone states the price or not as long as they show what I'm looking for in an unboxing or flip-through or review (the cards and the guidebook structure), I personally can look up the price of the deck myself.
Yea it's not a deal breaker honestly. It's just nice and I can be lazy 😂
@@CosmicLunarSoul 🤣🤣 Too funny!
Knock-offs are the worst. They fund criminal organizations, human trafficking, and who knows what other crimes and acts. Of course, they also hurt artists and authors who earn nothing from those knock offs.
And this issue is so rampant.
Yea! I just learned about that. I had no idea but that makes it even LESS acceptable to me
@@CosmicLunarSoul Yeah, it's so horrible!! 😞
Amazing video covering various points💯 I don't understand why people complain about the prices of things, when there is a WIDE range of low to high end prices for all budgets. It's not just tarot, it's also clothes, tech, makeup, food, every product AND service on Earth. If something isn't affordable for someones budget, they're not obligated to get it. If they really want it, they can save up. I've always been someone on a tight budget having to be selective of what I could buy and what's truly important, so I only buy decks under $20 and saved up to buy Vanessa's Pastel Journey for over $40. Most of my deck collection has been gifted in exchange for tarot readings. A few were knockoffs, because people don't know art like I do. I'm also on the side where I wouldn't intentionally purchase a knockoff (or Ai deck), because I value the experience and work that goes into creating 78 individual freakin art pieces.
The issue is not tarot creators, it's capitalism since the beginning of time. It's the reason the rich get richer through exploitation and manipulation, and everyone else feels pressure to buy buy buy all the things(especially now that it's easier at the click of a button). Then people throw away their morals by joining in the exploiting or are trying to compete within trends to get noticed(on social media, RUclips, & seller platforms).
The point of Spirituality is to live in peace within and without, to live consciously, to ascend together. We're not taking any of our material possessions with us after death. What matters is what we did with our lives
I understand complaining about food, or other necessities because, well we NEED them. No one NEEDS a tarot deck! So, to me, there's no amount of rationalization that will make stealing from creators okay.
I totally agree that this isn't a tarot specific issue, but a capitalism specific issue. That's the point that I (hopefully) got across haha.
Thank you for watching and commenting btw!
@CosmicLunarSoul ah! You're totally right about that one🤦♀️😅 I was literally talking with someone recently about how every human should have necessities(food, shelter, healthcare). But yes, I agree with so much from your video, so I joined in the conversation😊
@@VelvetKatOfficial yes! You posted a video?? I'll have to check it out!
@CosmicLunarSoul oh😅 no I meant joining as in commenting
@@VelvetKatOfficial 🤣🤣🤣oooohhhh haha! Well I do appreciate your comment!
I'm pretty sure your mother had HSN and you could watch that all day. Additionally, we found shopping at the mall enjoyable due to the amazing sales and having all the stores in one place. It reflects how the U.S. is a consumer-driven country where purchasing goods helps stimulate the economy.
I'm not sure why you'd assume my family watched HSN, but I'll have to ask my mom if she enjoyed going to the mall. By the time I was an adult with adult money malls were dying out so my memory of going to malls was to hang out with my friends. 🤷🏾♀️ Thanks for watching though lol
This was such an interesting discussion! I’m honestly still rather new to tarot, but I’m so glad that you and some of the other tarot channels I watch have talked about the difference between real and knockoff decks. I purchased what I thought was going to be a beautiful deck many years ago in the very early days of eBay and essentially got scammed, so I’ve always been afraid to try for another deck. Hopefully, I can use these tips to find a real deck for myself one day!
As for consumerism, I feel like just being on RUclips makes dancing along that line difficult. I try to promote the idea that using what we already have or getting things secondhand is best (mostly with regards to clothing and crafting), but even then, I’ve found that the videos that perform best are almost always hauls of some sort. The algorithm loves encouraging people to be in a buying mood, it seems.
Thanks for the suggestions on where to find affordable decks!
Thank you for watching! I am SO sorry that happened to you. I've seen it happen time and time again and I know how hard it is for a first time experience. I should do a video on how to spot scam/knockoffs. Because it can be scary to try again once you've been burned. And you're welcome for the tips! Thanks for the inspo for the new video.
RUclips *_DEFINITELY_* encourages consumerism. I'm well aware my channel more or less promotes it as do all flip through/unboxing channels do. So I feel your pain with the algorithm. I try to throw in discussions in the same niche (i.e. this video) so that way, hopefully people are brought to my channel for the fun flip throughs but stay for the thoughtful videos.
Great video! You had some great points and I really enjoyed the tips at the end!
Thank you!! ♥️♥️
@@CosmicLunarSoul 🥰🥰
First of all, I am humbled by your mention and shoutout. I enjoyed your perspective, and money saving tips. Now about the knockoffs. When I first got involved with tarot tube, I was gifted decks from friends encouraging me to go for it. They did not know the difference and to be honest, in the beginning neither did I. I was gifted some knockoffs (purchased on Amazon) and was happy because they were smaller decks and was more usable for my small hands. Now, I know better. I agree with your viewpoint that it's theft. I kept one of them as my "travel" deck because it the same size as a MM pocket size of the same deck. The others I don't know what to do with. The ones I really connected with, I've purchased replacement standard size decks. I'm now hesitant to consider a pocket edition unless I can buy the directly from creator.
You're welcome!! Thank you for watching and commenting. I totally get your point. I definitely only look down on it when people are knowingly buying knockoffs. Unfortunately scammers are really good at what they do so I'll never fault anyone for mistakingly buying one. I honestly wish there was a better method of reporting those issues to Amazon. Again thank you for watching and commenting! 😍
Yess! Labyrinthos is so bomb!
Prices of decks are so fluctuating these days. Just bought a deck off Amazon for €15. Week after that it was priced at €27,95…
Yea honestly if you save a deck or keep it in your cart, you'll know when the price drops! Publishers are always having sales as well. Like Hay House is doing their 50% off Semi Annual sale right now
Good video. ❤ I do believe though, anything is only original once….from that point on, it is only a copy. I haven’t created a tarot deck, yet…but I have created music and we sold 500 hundred copies of our cd…that was all we had produced…lol…small time stuff 😊 But, regardless, I still own rights to that music, in which, if anyone wanted to use that music they would then have to pay for the right to use it, or copy it. If they did not pay, then yes it would be theft….but, as a creator…I would encourage the sale of the right to use my creation…because I would then receive a royalty from that. Would that be the same for the art in a tarot deck? I cannot say for sure. I know that you can buy copies of famous paintings, also. So whoever owns the right to the original would be paid? Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this ❤
I personally don't know how that works legally for tarot in any place other than the US. But here if you have proof you created something first regardless if it's trademarked or copywrited, you are still the owner and can sue counterfeiters. The problem is that it costs money. And for me, bottom line it's theft so if someone is okay with stealing from small/medium creators then they are not my kind of people.
Yes, I believe the creators of their decks own the rights and can be paid royalties under contract from publishing houses or if they sell wholesale to sellers. But knockoff decks could possibly be unregulated, same as other knockoff products that are printed without authorization and without paying the rights owners. Although, now I'm wondering if they really are knockoffs, because I'm sure the original rights owners would definitely sue anyone they didn't license to🤔 It's very easy to catch mass printed deck copies
@@VelvetKatOfficial yes! Exactly! I look intentionally now for a place to file a copyright claim. And Walmart even has one. Amazon and Etsy advertise now that they have one. If I was a creator of something that was in danger of copyright infringement, I would definitely be searching for it. And if I can find something si easy as a possible knock off tarot deck...so can the creator. Or should we do that for them. 🤷♀️ I would not be proud of myself for buying a knock off....but, I have to ask myself...how has it become so easy? It cost zero dollars to file a copyright claim.
Hey! What shop near us has used decks for resale??
I thought Sticks and Stones but I was just there and they changed their setup. All their decks were new.
Nice Viedo, Is your channel Monetized?
Thank you, not not yet. Working on it. Slow and steadily.
@@CosmicLunarSoul If you want to grow your RUclips channel and want to monetize your channel our team can help you to grow your account fast .
Purchasing fake decks is immoral. Imo.
Totally agree. I understand if it's an accident but purposefully buying counterfeit decks is unacceptable.
Your point about speed vs quality vs expense was really poignant. Not something that gets addressed very often. ❤ I am also not ok with knock offs...though, in my case, its not something that will break a friendship. I dont know why but i suspect its because i lack energy to address it when it comes up. 🤔
Thank you for watching! I figured that I should use my experience with project management for something useful haha
I always have the energy to argue with people, which probably isn't a good thing 😅